If you want to read Amy and Kieran's book but can't buy it yourself, your public library may be able to purchase it. I put in a request online for my local public library to purchase it and they bought 2 copies!
It may be coming up, I’m not finished yet, but I hope we take into consideration the intersectionality of those with higher support needs (those who require caregivers/social services)or perhaps more complex communication needs (lacking verbal communication) and how masking may be different, or even non-existent for others, potentially. Moving forward, I hope there continues to be research on this & consideration given. I’m looking forward to reading though! I’m reading Unmasking Autism, and I struggle to relate to simply identifying & taking off a mask. I also wonder how much is masking versus clinician & social biases not recognizing disability in women, black people, etc edit: y’all are getting into it!
We're not sure if Rachel Cullen and Kieran Rose have talked about this online with us specifically, but they both talk about how higher support and non-speaking Autistic people, and Autistic people with a learning disability most definitely mask as it's an unconscious trauma response learnt to keep safe. Rachel (regular guest and host) has also worked in residential units and witnessed Autistic people with high support needs mask for safety 😔❤ thank you for this important question.
1:33:01, yeah, when I was a child back in the early 2000s, that was a common narrative we often heard then, that there were a few jobs that were appropriate for autistic people (meaning computer programming), but outside of that, people like us weren't really going to amount to much. I never heard about reasonable adjustments until I was an adult. The overwhelming narrative was the need to improve ourselves and basically overcome our disability, that we "couldn't expect" employers to make adjustments for us, in the "real world", and had to settle for a job with computers because apparently that's all we were good for. Speaking of that, even a few days ago, I've seen NTs discussing autistic people in the workplace, where they denied having any prejudice or bias against autistic people, then IMMEDIATELY followed it up with a point that basically suggested placing all autistic people looking for work in a job with computers or maths. Firstly, of course, the obvious stereotype of the type of role, but secondly, the implicit assumption that it's their job, even their right, to decide what job to "put" autistic people into, as if we don't have our own preferences/goals. Definitely a "doing to" narrative that implicitly assumes that we are inferior and need to be controlled, that they know best. It just stuck out to me how accepted ableist ideas about us are, that people can say things like that and not notice how blatantly controlling and patronising they are being.
Well, I am a technophobe (haven’t been able to keep up with technology since radios changed from analogue to digital) and got a U (Unclassified) in my maths O Level. I’ve since found out I have dyscalculia. I can’t even set the timer on my microwave reliably.
I’m so sorry I missed it live AGAIN despite leaving myself reminders! I think it’s because the timeframe has changed and my brain won’t keep up. I have read the book and am very impressed, it should be on academic/training reading lists as required reading.
On the subject of younger people having different trauma, what stands out to me is the increased trauma that everyone is experiencing as the bootheel of capitalism grows sharper. The gap between the trauma levels of Autistic and Allistic young people seems to be narrowing, and that's not a good thing.
If you want to read Amy and Kieran's book but can't buy it yourself, your public library may be able to purchase it. I put in a request online for my local public library to purchase it and they bought 2 copies!
It may be coming up, I’m not finished yet, but I hope we take into consideration the intersectionality of those with higher support needs (those who require caregivers/social services)or perhaps more complex communication needs (lacking verbal communication) and how masking may be different, or even non-existent for others, potentially. Moving forward, I hope there continues to be research on this & consideration given. I’m looking forward to reading though! I’m reading Unmasking Autism, and I struggle to relate to simply identifying & taking off a mask. I also wonder how much is masking versus clinician & social biases not recognizing disability in women, black people, etc
edit: y’all are getting into it!
We're not sure if Rachel Cullen and Kieran Rose have talked about this online with us specifically, but they both talk about how higher support and non-speaking Autistic people, and Autistic people with a learning disability most definitely mask as it's an unconscious trauma response learnt to keep safe. Rachel (regular guest and host) has also worked in residential units and witnessed Autistic people with high support needs mask for safety 😔❤ thank you for this important question.
@@aucademy6195 Awesome! I appreciate your response. They definitely spoke on it later on in this episode. I look forward to learning more :)
1:33:01, yeah, when I was a child back in the early 2000s, that was a common narrative we often heard then, that there were a few jobs that were appropriate for autistic people (meaning computer programming), but outside of that, people like us weren't really going to amount to much. I never heard about reasonable adjustments until I was an adult. The overwhelming narrative was the need to improve ourselves and basically overcome our disability, that we "couldn't expect" employers to make adjustments for us, in the "real world", and had to settle for a job with computers because apparently that's all we were good for.
Speaking of that, even a few days ago, I've seen NTs discussing autistic people in the workplace, where they denied having any prejudice or bias against autistic people, then IMMEDIATELY followed it up with a point that basically suggested placing all autistic people looking for work in a job with computers or maths. Firstly, of course, the obvious stereotype of the type of role, but secondly, the implicit assumption that it's their job, even their right, to decide what job to "put" autistic people into, as if we don't have our own preferences/goals. Definitely a "doing to" narrative that implicitly assumes that we are inferior and need to be controlled, that they know best. It just stuck out to me how accepted ableist ideas about us are, that people can say things like that and not notice how blatantly controlling and patronising they are being.
Thank you for sharing this with us - that is shocking, if not unsurprising.
Well, I am a technophobe (haven’t been able to keep up with technology since radios changed from analogue to digital) and got a U (Unclassified) in my maths O Level. I’ve since found out I have dyscalculia. I can’t even set the timer on my microwave reliably.
I’m so sorry I missed it live AGAIN despite leaving myself reminders! I think it’s because the timeframe has changed and my brain won’t keep up. I have read the book and am very impressed, it should be on academic/training reading lists as required reading.
On the subject of younger people having different trauma, what stands out to me is the increased trauma that everyone is experiencing as the bootheel of capitalism grows sharper. The gap between the trauma levels of Autistic and Allistic young people seems to be narrowing, and that's not a good thing.