Sevatar Also, superior organization can allow you to win out against looters (and they tend to be very disorganized). But neither superior weaponry nor organization count as "talking with them." I think in many cases, like after Hurricane Katrina, looters are people who let their id take over and lose rational though. I don't think they are either insane nor corrupted, at least not permanently. They don't realize how deluded they were until they return to normal civilization. That's the way I see it.
Reminder that the First Crusade is generally remembered by historians as the only successful crusade, the only one to fulfill its objective. This is the one that all future crusaders looked back on as the one example of a crusade that worked. Let that sink in for a moment.
Mighty Roogna Same here, As Scotland I was able to eliminate Spain early on and the French helped me get the rebelling Flemish cities on the top and the bottom French Rebel cities plus wer fought together against the HRE. But they still fucking attacked me while I was busy with Venice and Milan
What I always found most amazing is how the Byzantines could feed 30,000 starving peasant-crusaders outside of harvest season at a moment's notice when the lords in Western Europe could barely feed a fraction of that number even in the best of times- it really goes to show how far the west had fallen by this point
The Byzantine were still a super power despite how much the empire has declined. Romes weakened state is far richer, architecture and military still far exceeded that of the other powers. It took practically every surrounding nation hundreds of years to completely destroy it.
@@AlexKS1992 Yeah, atleast they succeed in being "the scourge of the gods" and terrorizing everybody, while this "crusader" didn't even accomplish anything in the end.
Sean Goldfeder You stop, you starve - it was a barely provisioned march of 40,000 people. You took whatever you could find along the way in order to keep going. Because, you know... Jesus told you to. That was, BTW, the reason they usually split into multiple smaller columns - so that they could find enough sustenance along multiple routes. And then get killed by the "Saracens" anyway.
SockPuppet80 Well, Sun Tzu, on The Art of War, advised armies to take food, money, and other provisions as they traveled, but he only mentioned to take them from fallen enemy soldiers. Of course, he also said that ideally, there should be as little bloodshed as possible in a battle, and if there wasn't enough to feed an army even after a battle, to politely ask local leaders for support. He also said to calculate out how much supplies an army would need and bring them along before they leave, something these guys clearly didn't bother to do.
@@sphereyahya it not even the church for the most part but some morons who toke it as a excuse to kill even when the church’s tried to stop it As a Christian orthodox now you know why we make fun of the crusades for the most part
@@sphereyahya yeah, but it was mostly some mad folks using religion (specially cristianity even tought it is an pacifist religion) as an excuse to commit unimaginable crimes
@@painvillegaming4119 I know I might accidentally make myself look like a Christian hater or something with this question; but from an outsider of the Christian faith too someone in it, how do you feel about the uncomfortable, disturbing and heartbreaking reality that despite being a pacifist religion Christianity has been used as an excuse too commit *COUNTLESS* crimes across history once we take a look at it? And I'm just going to clear up some biases I may have right now in case you're gonna ask it, I do mean to give all the respect that I can give here, but I just want to make sure that we're good. While yes I do have my issues with Christianity (mostly with the crimes that's been committed in Christ's name in history and some viewpoints on women and LGBT+ people that yes I am aware was created over a thousand years ago and yadi yadi yada) I do *not* have issues with people who follows the faith unless they use their religion as a shield too be awful people. No I've never been a member of the church, and in fact I more align with spiritual and really anything that somehow just so happens to be not a Christian and Muslim view point (don't ask me how the heck that happened, I honestly don't know) with a particular interest in Buddhism, folk-lore, spiritualism and the Norse pantheon. And yes I am interested and really want too learn more about the Christian faith because I just think knowing more about it will be nice. **sigh** , alright then, that should be everything, my apologies for this long ass reply (it's a bad habit I developed), thank you very much for taking some time outta your day ta read this if ya do, and have a nice day doc. =)
@@jaxongillespie6618 not really, I mean we're literally talking about murder, I mean he said that the peasant crusader mob threw children into the fire, so it's quite baffling how these atrocities were committed against Christians.
After all the chaos the peasant crusaders caused in Hungary and Byzantium, I'm surprised neither of them went full "Justinian dealing with the Blues and Greens" and just slaughtered the lot of them. After proving repeatedly that all they wanted to do was kill, pillage, and loot, that kind of response would be certainly justified.
***** True, but these weren't even the real crusaders. They were just a peasant mob. The Byzantines knew the crusader army proper was on its way, who would likely be stronger, more organized, and less prone to wanton slaughter of fellow Christians than the bloodthirsty rabble they were dealing with.
Jedibob5 If word had spread back to the West about their own civillians being killed, it likely would have turned out far worse. Rock, meet hard place.
Jedibob5 They couldn't. Later-era Byzantium was constantly stretched to the very limit and beyond in terms of their military and economic strength. To do anything about those lunatics they would have had to recall troops from borders under constant assault by actually _organized_ and well-equipped enemies. They couldn't hire mercenaries...their coffers were not just empty, they actually held significant amounts of _negative_ money: They had lots and lots of debt. Oh, and hiring mercs with the promise of plunder doesn't really work if the fighting is going on inside your own territory. By pulling in forces from elsewhere they could have taken the crusader mobs out, but not without weakening themselves in the areas that were actually critical to the survival of what remained of their empire.
Not really. They were almost all sinners that went on the crusade in hopes to not die and be taken to hell or whatnot. Sure, there were probably some 'Christians' in there, but a lot of people back then never had the time to travel all the way to the city and listen to preaching so as to learn the religion they were in, and Bibles weren't exactly mass produced, the ideals were just passed down from man to man and they all assumed it was right. Some got added, some taken away, and generally skewed from the main belief. The rest were taught very little, so they did what they knew best: fight.
Samuel Musgrove I would argue with you but you are not important in dismantling your religion so why bother, why am even commenting on your comment, farewell, I must leave to something that more important, like cleaning the windows, bye.
The sheer numbers involved just are just boggling my mind. These peasant mobs are larger than some of the armies in other Extra Histories. Yet they still act like mobs! It's terrifying.
Omega0850 That's exactly the point. Leading the peasant crusaders was extremely difficult, especially when things were getting more and more out of hand. Personally I would compare them to a pack of untrained, disobedient and blood-thirsty dogs instead, though that might just be me.
Ike Okereke Ha! You are so naive! Have you ever tried to sneak onto a sleeping cat? They just pretend to sleep, in fact they just close their eyes to concentrate while mindcontrolling you, and simultaniously holding the universe together with their psychic abilities.
They were just peasants. They were an accidental by product of the Crusade, not the Crusade the pope created. Peasants weren't exactly more intelligent elsewhere.
@@xenotypos When you speeding on the road and hit someone... you did it, even if not intentionally. They used power and lies to fool already fanatized people to fall for the thing. Of course much more people and factors was involved.. just pope has power to ignite the wick.
Holy crap, it hasn't even really started yet?! These people were so incredibly disorganized I can't believe this crusade ever got off the ground. It should have fizzled into nothing by now.
Dorkmaster Flek Nah nah. Those weren't really crusaders. Those were moronic peasants who left earlier, and killed everyone except who they were actually supposed to fight. The real crusade only begins to start at the end of that mess.
Dorkmaster Flek Just wait for the fourth crusade, none of the crusaders managed to reached the holy land and it was so messed up that the catholic church has even apologized for it twice.
Dorkmaster Flek You do realize that 'the actual crusade' is a whole different bunch of people who haven't even left their homes yet? Some random baron in Italy is hardly directly affected by what happens on the other side of the Bosphorus.
Dorkmaster Flek The real crusade is coming, this is just children "pretending" to be knights. All they did was kill fellow christians and warn the Turks and all muslims that a crusade was coming. Had there not being agitators like Peter, the common rabble would have stayed home, living their normal lives, but then guys like Peter said "God spoke to me" to a bunch of uneducated peasants, you know what happened.
You know, if I ever feel like my life is getting dysfunctional or disorganized, I'll just watch the first 2 episodes of this series to make myself feel better
For the record, 40,000 unexpected guests is no small number to feed in modern times. The logistics of feeding that many people are daunting under ANY circumstance.
fmusopp Because the Pope promised absolution for going on the crusade. Participation meant being freed of all your sins and essentially a free pass to Heaven. Rather appealing prospect to folks at the time.
***** For both Christians and Muslims, God is much more all-encompassing rather than just being a Sun God. Both then and now, the Christian and Muslim God is the God of everything. But yes, this was a play by a Pope looking to validate and secure his own position by creating a campaign that would unite all of Christianity against a common enemy that he sold on the premise that you could commit violent and otherwise sinful atrocities without risking damnation, and in fact spun it around to where those atrocities were considered redeeming acts when, under any other premise, they would be condemning.
Yes what a "pious" and "rightous" cause.... I won't deny that the Crusades played a role in shaping the European identity, but man I can't stop facepalming... Rip to the innocent people who died at the hands of idiocy.
"Okay folks, whatever you do don't attack and pillage those guys." "You want us to go attack and pillage those guys? Sure thing!" - The peasants' Crusade in a nutshell.
PINGPONGROCKSBRAH And I thought MY atheist neighbours were dumb! Seriously though, that's a pretty stupid comment. Regardless of religion (or lack thereof), a mob like that is bound to do some stupid shit. You might want to remember that what's talked about here was never officially accepted by any church.
Geary You haven't read history at all if thats what you think was the only confer. The mob groups were uneducated dravel who accepted anything, people in middle ages were usually terrible people. The church had very little to do with it, they might of helped, but the christian knights (the second sons and third sons who went on the first crusade) were doing it to settle a score with the muslims.
what really sucks is that the poor governor probably was relieved of command, blinded and exiled because of all that; he is probably the most unlucky person ever to hold any government office ever
I love Romanticism, but a part of it, the infatuation and idealization of Medieval Europe's peasantry, seems very miss guided, and makes me feel that modernity (as disparity filled as it can be) is real progress for humanity.
Bounsingonbongos1 I'd agree with that to a point; we're still very easily goaded by ideologues and seldom, if ever, glimpse the bigger picture-- even when it's staring at us on our computer. Still, it's a very poignant period in time and a reminder that masses of people inevitably cause problems even with the best of intentions. (I doubt the majority went in thinking hey lets go rob, pillage and do unchristianly things)
Bounsingonbongos1 Well, it's what happens when you have people who, for the most part, don't leave the area they were born in, have pretty much no education, and who have a very strict ideology. Yeah, we've made massive massive progress in pretty much every field. People are more educated and knowledgable, less violent (violent deaths are on a massive global decline, and have been for a while now), healthier, longer lived, and generally better off.
Fen Y He refers to the (historical/literal) period of Romaticism. In CONTRAST to that, this series rather shows, that life wasn't all milk and honey back then.
Extra Credits/History, you good folks are a sight for sore eyes. In this age of misinformation and ignorance it's heartwarming to see an honest attempt to bring a little light in our lives. Deus Volt! Lol. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication!
Homeless people randomly looting, pillaging and killing everything that breathes air? Are you sure you aren't describing my World of Warcraft character?
It's not crazy to think that people became a whole lot stupider between 500 and 1000 AD is it? This history sounds a lot more like Dark fall history or of any other pvp based mmorpg than the sophisticated stuff that happened thousands of years earlier between the Romans and Egyptians or centuries later.
Anyone remember Disney's Sword in the Stone? The Crusades seems to be a long list of that moment of Sir Ector slapping his face as Kay gets defeated by a target dummy and yelling NNOO NO NOOOO!!!
I feel bad for Peter. He was probably like "Guys, no, stop. Please, I just want to go crusade. No don't kill that guy, stop pillaging for a second. Please?"
It is said that every society is three missed meals away from anarchy. I suppose it should be said that every peasant crusade, no matter how much driven by idealism originally, is three missed meals away from going on a looting rampage. Which will likely happen sooner rather than later, as peasant crusades aren't known for having good logistics.
This is like the South Sea Bubble series in that it's practically comical! With the difference that there's a lot more people dead directly because of it. But you know, history is that way.
Yes it was in fact a dumb idea and ended in a horrible catastrophy but to Peters Credit I have to say that he only wanted to capture Jerusalem and did (probably) not want this...
"The faction for looting won out, because of course they did"
History is written by the victor
No one wants to be remembered as a jerk
TheRezro or in this case, swords, maces, axes and spears. Things that generally hurt more than knives.
Keith Hamilton it was Wallpole
Greed is such a common fault, and yet still very destructive.
Sevatar Also, superior organization can allow you to win out against looters (and they tend to be very disorganized). But neither superior weaponry nor organization count as "talking with them."
I think in many cases, like after Hurricane Katrina, looters are people who let their id take over and lose rational though. I don't think they are either insane nor corrupted, at least not permanently. They don't realize how deluded they were until they return to normal civilization.
That's the way I see it.
Reminder that the First Crusade is generally remembered by historians as the only successful crusade, the only one to fulfill its objective. This is the one that all future crusaders looked back on as the one example of a crusade that worked. Let that sink in for a moment.
FoxEatingBamboo In one of the crusades a noble basiclly talked his way into getting Jerusalem
FoxEatingBamboo Even though I'm a muslim and I know I'm going to hell for this but lmfao.
Hell? Does that even exist in Muslim?
They took back Byzantine, Antioch, all of Israel and Jerusalem...
Miller Theory Palestine*
All this historical looting makes me feel slightly better about how I play in Medieval total war.
ChannelShoreyo I feel you bruh
ChannelShoreyo Eh I just go with France and lunge strait for Bavaria& Cologne.
ChannelShoreyo I hated the french
Fucking french always attack me even when I try to befriend them.
Also why is Egypt so aggressive?
Mighty Roogna Well umm the French generals say my methods may not be honorable but effective oui quite effective.
Mighty Roogna Same here, As Scotland I was able to eliminate Spain early on and the French helped me get the rebelling Flemish cities on the top and the bottom French Rebel cities plus wer fought together against the HRE. But they still fucking attacked me while I was busy with Venice and Milan
I could see this being made into a dark, dark comedy.
Mattias Westby yes indeed
I felt a little bad that I laughed at some points...
I literally couldn't stop laughing. Every time I thought it was done he was like... And then they pillaged.
I was just thinking of that too. Made possibly by Wes Anderson or the Coen Brothers.
Monty Python
To the Eastern Romans, these guys must have just seemed like just another barbarous horde like they'd been dealing with for the past thousand years.
What I always found most amazing is how the Byzantines could feed 30,000 starving peasant-crusaders outside of harvest season at a moment's notice when the lords in Western Europe could barely feed a fraction of that number even in the best of times- it really goes to show how far the west had fallen by this point
The Byzantine were still a super power despite how much the empire has declined. Romes weakened state is far richer, architecture and military still far exceeded that of the other powers. It took practically every surrounding nation hundreds of years to completely destroy it.
@@q345ify Organization and unity.
Lol ikr
@@AlexKS1992 Yeah, atleast they succeed in being "the scourge of the gods" and terrorizing everybody, while this "crusader" didn't even accomplish anything in the end.
The Orks of 40k has better logistics, strategy, and common sense than the Peasant Crusaders...
Gratuitous Lurking It's tragic how true that is
EVERY PART OF AN ORK IS USED FOR FIGHTIN. EVEN THE THINKY BITS
@@Shalrath239 *Tyranids intensify* "pfffft, thinky bits? WE ARE ALL FIGHTY BITS!"
@@Shalrath239 That is beautiful. lol
@@SleepDaMouse-xd8dn where's your evidence?
Could these guys stop pillaging for 3 seconds?
Nop
Not possible
Sean Goldfeder Yes, to boast about there pillaging
Sean Goldfeder You stop, you starve - it was a barely provisioned march of 40,000 people. You took whatever you could find along the way in order to keep going. Because, you know... Jesus told you to.
That was, BTW, the reason they usually split into multiple smaller columns - so that they could find enough sustenance along multiple routes. And then get killed by the "Saracens" anyway.
SockPuppet80 Well, Sun Tzu, on The Art of War, advised armies to take food, money, and other provisions as they traveled, but he only mentioned to take them from fallen enemy soldiers.
Of course, he also said that ideally, there should be as little bloodshed as possible in a battle, and if there wasn't enough to feed an army even after a battle, to politely ask local leaders for support. He also said to calculate out how much supplies an army would need and bring them along before they leave, something these guys clearly didn't bother to do.
I love the way that this crusade is disorganized to the point that it looks less like a historical landmark, and more like a dark comedy.
This sounds like a movie that would critisize the church
@@sphereyahya it not even the church for the most part but some morons who toke it as a excuse to kill even when the church’s tried to stop it
As a Christian orthodox now you know why we make fun of the crusades for the most part
@@sphereyahya yeah, but it was mostly some mad folks using religion (specially cristianity even tought it is an pacifist religion) as an excuse to commit unimaginable crimes
@@painvillegaming4119 I know I might accidentally make myself look like a Christian hater or something with this question; but from an outsider of the Christian faith too someone in it, how do you feel about the uncomfortable, disturbing and heartbreaking reality that despite being a pacifist religion Christianity has been used as an excuse too commit *COUNTLESS* crimes across history once we take a look at it?
And I'm just going to clear up some biases I may have right now in case you're gonna ask it, I do mean to give all the respect that I can give here, but I just want to make sure that we're good. While yes I do have my issues with Christianity (mostly with the crimes that's been committed in Christ's name in history and some viewpoints on women and LGBT+ people that yes I am aware was created over a thousand years ago and yadi yadi yada) I do *not* have issues with people who follows the faith unless they use their religion as a shield too be awful people. No I've never been a member of the church, and in fact I more align with spiritual and really anything that somehow just so happens to be not a Christian and Muslim view point (don't ask me how the heck that happened, I honestly don't know) with a particular interest in Buddhism, folk-lore, spiritualism and the Norse pantheon. And yes I am interested and really want too learn more about the Christian faith because I just think knowing more about it will be nice.
**sigh** , alright then, that should be everything, my apologies for this long ass reply (it's a bad habit I developed), thank you very much for taking some time outta your day ta read this if ya do, and have a nice day doc. =)
The sheer ineptitude would be hysterical if not for all that atrocity along the way.
I think that just adds to the humor
@@jaxongillespie6618 not really, I mean we're literally talking about murder, I mean he said that the peasant crusader mob threw children into the fire, so it's quite baffling how these atrocities were committed against Christians.
@@abdulrahmanalzaidi these disorganized morons -orthodox Christian’s
Maybe the true ineptitude was the atrocities we committed along the way?
"Looting won out, because of course it did." I will quote this someday, not sure how but it's gunna happen.
Same!
Same
...the first time you play Rust and ask a raider to leave at least *some* of your stuff.
Yup.
Same
2 episodes of massacre and blood...
and the crusade didn't even begin.
Truly honorable men worthy of going oh wait *ABSOLUTELY NOT*
They hadn't actually reach Jerusalem. They're still wandering around...
And God looked twards his children on the earth... and face palmed.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Christ almighty, I can hear that groan even today.
Isn’t that a recurring theme throughout history?
God: why do I always choose the dumb ones?
if anything god was probably saving the muslims from the stupidity of the crusaders lmao
After all the chaos the peasant crusaders caused in Hungary and Byzantium, I'm surprised neither of them went full "Justinian dealing with the Blues and Greens" and just slaughtered the lot of them. After proving repeatedly that all they wanted to do was kill, pillage, and loot, that kind of response would be certainly justified.
Jedibob5 Because they wanted to use the Western Europeans to kill their enemies.
***** True, but these weren't even the real crusaders. They were just a peasant mob. The Byzantines knew the crusader army proper was on its way, who would likely be stronger, more organized, and less prone to wanton slaughter of fellow Christians than the bloodthirsty rabble they were dealing with.
Jedibob5 That's true, but the Byzantines were never really sure what was going on with the crusaders.
Jedibob5 If word had spread back to the West about their own civillians being killed, it likely would have turned out far worse.
Rock, meet hard place.
Jedibob5
They couldn't. Later-era Byzantium was constantly stretched to the very limit and beyond in terms of their military and economic strength. To do anything about those lunatics they would have had to recall troops from borders under constant assault by actually _organized_ and well-equipped enemies. They couldn't hire mercenaries...their coffers were not just empty, they actually held significant amounts of _negative_ money: They had lots and lots of debt. Oh, and hiring mercs with the promise of plunder doesn't really work if the fighting is going on inside your own territory. By pulling in forces from elsewhere they could have taken the crusader mobs out, but not without weakening themselves in the areas that were actually critical to the survival of what remained of their empire.
"Which they pillaged, looted _and_ set on fire"
All while chanting _'Blood for the Blood God!'_, one would be tempted to assume.
trick or Slaneetch!
Not really. They were almost all sinners that went on the crusade in hopes to not die and be taken to hell or whatnot. Sure, there were probably some 'Christians' in there, but a lot of people back then never had the time to travel all the way to the city and listen to preaching so as to learn the religion they were in, and Bibles weren't exactly mass produced, the ideals were just passed down from man to man and they all assumed it was right. Some got added, some taken away, and generally skewed from the main belief. The rest were taught very little, so they did what they knew best: fight.
Samuel Musgrove I would argue with you but you are not important in dismantling your religion so why bother, why am even commenting on your comment, farewell, I must leave to something that more important, like cleaning the windows, bye.
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
* DODODODDEDEDE BWAH BWAH BWEEEEE *
Nobody here should ever get that joke.
The People's Crusade: why grassroots movements aren't always the best movements.
You planted grass?
GRASS?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Drinking game
Drink every time the word "loot" or "pillage" is used
Good luck
swagy sawger Great, now I'm shitfaced.
+swagy swagger My father played.......hes kidney is being replaced now...
+herobrinext9 *his
Just use Beer instead of the hard stuff.
CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG!
Why do I loot in medieval fantasy RPGs? To be historically accurate.
AceOfROMs I know I'm 2 years late but I'm stealing this.
Nice
Lol! These peasant crusaders are basically real life murderhobos. XD
"Murderhobos" LMAO
This crusade in a nutshell:
-Wait here
-Ok, but my people will pillage the place
-Then go
-Thank you! :3
-*Crusaders pillage anyways*
Byzantine Emperor: This... This isn’t help. AT ALL
Riot over a pair of shoes ??
Remember this was an army with women in it - they were really, really, really nice shoes.
"doth thee has't this in a diff'rent colour?"
And you thought Game of Thrones was violent ?
Air Max, man!
@Nub93 legend
The sheer numbers involved just are just boggling my mind. These peasant mobs are larger than some of the armies in other Extra Histories. Yet they still act like mobs! It's terrifying.
This is very, very embarrassing. When historians talk about the Crusades being a dark spot in our history, I now know why.
Never before has a history lesson had me throwing up my hands and literally shouting "Oh, come on!" More than this one. Great series.
Leading Crusaders is like herding cats. Murderous, armed, dumb cats.
TheRezro That doesn´t make sense, since its easy to herd sheep or cattle, while herding cats is next to impossible.
Omega0850 That's exactly the point. Leading the peasant crusaders was extremely difficult, especially when things were getting more and more out of hand.
Personally I would compare them to a pack of untrained, disobedient and blood-thirsty dogs instead, though that might just be me.
Holly Rea Just don´t dare to insult our overlords again! You only live because they allow it.
Omega0850
Cats are a bunch of lazy animals, who sleep all day. In fact, they mostly worshiped the Cat God of Sleeping.
Ike Okereke Ha! You are so naive! Have you ever tried to sneak onto a sleeping cat? They just pretend to sleep, in fact they just close their eyes to concentrate while mindcontrolling you, and simultaniously holding the universe together with their psychic abilities.
Pillaged? Check. Looted? Check. Burned? Check.
"they considered this a job well done"
Sounds like a well planed crusade
Hotel? Well, not in Constantinople
**tosses children on fire**
"Great job man"
I'm glad this was 900+ years ago, or I'd feel really guilty about laughing so hard.
"Because of course they did."
Those five words could really sum up most of human history...
From this video I learned that the two things peasants love the most:
- God
- Looting
(Not necessarily in that order)
Seems like the origin story of a saying " I asked god for bicycle but i know god doesnt work that way, so i stole a bike and asked for mercy"
This entire thing feels like a Monty Python movie.
This whole story is just so absurd it's almost unbelievable. Then again, medieval Europe was really that absurd.
They were just peasants. They were an accidental by product of the Crusade, not the Crusade the pope created.
Peasants weren't exactly more intelligent elsewhere.
@@xenotypos Well they were majority of population then so...
@@MyNewChanel1 Yeah but the crusade wasn't meant for them.
@@xenotypos When you speeding on the road and hit someone... you did it, even if not intentionally. They used power and lies to fool already fanatized people to fall for the thing. Of course much more people and factors was involved.. just pope has power to ignite the wick.
Holy crap, it hasn't even really started yet?! These people were so incredibly disorganized I can't believe this crusade ever got off the ground. It should have fizzled into nothing by now.
Dorkmaster Flek Nah nah. Those weren't really crusaders. Those were moronic peasants who left earlier, and killed everyone except who they were actually supposed to fight. The real crusade only begins to start at the end of that mess.
Dorkmaster Flek Just wait for the fourth crusade, none of the crusaders managed to reached the holy land and it was so messed up that the catholic church has even apologized for it twice.
Dorkmaster Flek You do realize that 'the actual crusade' is a whole different bunch of people who haven't even left their homes yet? Some random baron in Italy is hardly directly affected by what happens on the other side of the Bosphorus.
Dorkmaster Flek The real crusade is coming, this is just children "pretending" to be knights. All they did was kill fellow christians and warn the Turks and all muslims that a crusade was coming.
Had there not being agitators like Peter, the common rabble would have stayed home, living their normal lives, but then guys like Peter said "God spoke to me" to a bunch of uneducated peasants, you know what happened.
+DetachTheMind Yes evidently I'm learning that, which is why I'm watching the videos in the first place. 😃
This whole thing sounds like a D&D session gone extremely wrong.
You know, if I ever feel like my life is getting dysfunctional or disorganized, I'll just watch the first 2 episodes of this series to make myself feel better
For the record, 40,000 unexpected guests is no small number to feed in modern times. The logistics of feeding that many people are daunting under ANY circumstance.
"There’s a beast in every man and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand."
Shut up Jorah and continue looking for a cure.
Or a machine gun or a rifle nowadays.
wait. i'm lost. why are we going on this crusade again?
fmusopp To pillage our own towns and massacre our allies. Duh. Weren't you paying any attention?
fmusopp Because the Pope promised absolution for going on the crusade. Participation meant being freed of all your sins and essentially a free pass to Heaven. Rather appealing prospect to folks at the time.
reperfan4 And the peoples that wants these absolution are typically criminals in some way or anther. As the previous episode would explained.
fmusopp LOOOOOOOOOOT!!!
***** For both Christians and Muslims, God is much more all-encompassing rather than just being a Sun God. Both then and now, the Christian and Muslim God is the God of everything.
But yes, this was a play by a Pope looking to validate and secure his own position by creating a campaign that would unite all of Christianity against a common enemy that he sold on the premise that you could commit violent and otherwise sinful atrocities without risking damnation, and in fact spun it around to where those atrocities were considered redeeming acts when, under any other premise, they would be condemning.
Peasants crusade? More like, let's just set everything on fire and hope for the best.
If this was fiction, it would be hilarious. Instead it's tragic.
It's still funny
dang, the first crusade sounds like my army in Medieval 2 Total War... burning everything.
*_Declares crusade against Muslims_*
*_Attacks own religion_*
*_lojik_*
*literally every other religion but Muslims
@@sortablesoap671 wtf ? Do you know how many times Muslim Rulers declared Jihad on other Muslims ?
*PROFIT*
@@sortablesoap671 *_Hehe you're an angry little christian aren't you?_*
I like how you accurately depicted the Niš fortress. Awesome!
Biverix Thanks! I do my best :)
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Yes what a "pious" and "rightous" cause.... I won't deny that the Crusades played a role in shaping the European identity, but man I can't stop facepalming... Rip to the innocent people who died at the hands of idiocy.
Imagine how hard the pope and the church facepalmed themselves hearing that peasants were killing their own allies.
Martin D. Petersen Europeans find it very hard to pass up an opportunity to cut each others throats it seems.
Burkutace27 Well I think it's just humanity in general
Burkutace27 You might want to replace Europeans with Humans in general
Martin D. Petersen Ok, and we'll ignore the fact that many of the biggest and most destructive wars have been fought in Europe.
"Okay folks, whatever you do don't attack and pillage those guys."
"You want us to go attack and pillage those guys? Sure thing!"
- The peasants' Crusade in a nutshell.
Peters just like: good lord can you not sack and burn everything, for 5 minutes
6:59 "because of course it did" - best line of the entire extra history series, regardless of topic!
And when the main force arrives....
"why are there dead beggers everywhere ?"
Holy shit. And I thought MY Christian neighbors were annoying. I feel like I should stop by and give them all a hug after watching this.
PINGPONGROCKSBRAH And I thought MY atheist neighbours were dumb!
Seriously though, that's a pretty stupid comment. Regardless of religion (or lack thereof), a mob like that is bound to do some stupid shit. You might want to remember that what's talked about here was never officially accepted by any church.
DetachTheMind And I'm sure all the xenophobia the Church created towards Muslims and Jews helped a great deal to prevent those mobs.
Geary You haven't read history at all if thats what you think was the only confer. The mob groups were uneducated dravel who accepted anything, people in middle ages were usually terrible people. The church had very little to do with it, they might of helped, but the christian knights (the second sons and third sons who went on the first crusade) were doing it to settle a score with the muslims.
DetachTheMind You do realize it was a joke.....
DetachTheMind I think you dont know what humour is
I think this crusade can be best described by the horrified cry of "this really got out of hand fast"
“And thus the first crusade began” is getting to Monty Python levels of ridiculous and hilarious.
This is just brilliant. Thank you for your efforts in offering quality content
I'm sure we can make many drinking games out of this.
Yusblind Drink every time the word "loot" or "pillage" is used!
Every time the crusaders do something stupid
Adil Zafar My brain would be sloshed by now. D:
Take a sip when pointless killing happens, with extra sips for looting and burning.
Thousands killed over a pair of shoes......... *facepalm*
Wow. Call this a train wrech wont be enough.
mestre12 it's a train wreck where they just keep sending more trains
what really sucks is that the poor governor probably was relieved of command, blinded and exiled because of all that; he is probably the most unlucky person ever to hold any government office ever
Wreck*
Its a Holy train wrech.
mestre12 * wreck
These crusaders and isis got a lot of things in common
Except ISIS are a bunch of noob if we compare to these guys lol
@@ZiedHF True
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@@ZiedHF those "crusaders"were less competent than isis. isis actually conquered stuff. These crusaders did not at all.
There must have been a massive gas leak across Europe....
M Purefoy mother of God, this is the best one.
The pics that accompany this one are the best yet. Absolutely hilarious for such a terribly tragic story.
Nothing in history has ever made me laugh as much as these last 2 videos 🤣😂
Geez, this sounds like a really bad D&D campaign.
Sounds like a fun campaign
6:56 "Soon, the faction supporting looting won out, because of course it did."
There are some fantastic lines in these videos.
This is by far one of the most entertaining video series I discovered on www this week!
From IRAN
I love Romanticism, but a part of it, the infatuation and idealization of Medieval Europe's peasantry, seems very miss guided, and makes me feel that modernity (as disparity filled as it can be) is real progress for humanity.
Bounsingonbongos1 I'd agree with that to a point; we're still very easily goaded by ideologues and seldom, if ever, glimpse the bigger picture-- even when it's staring at us on our computer. Still, it's a very poignant period in time and a reminder that masses of people inevitably cause problems even with the best of intentions. (I doubt the majority went in thinking hey lets go rob, pillage and do unchristianly things)
Bounsingonbongos1 Well, it's what happens when you have people who, for the most part, don't leave the area they were born in, have pretty much no education, and who have a very strict ideology. Yeah, we've made massive massive progress in pretty much every field. People are more educated and knowledgable, less violent (violent deaths are on a massive global decline, and have been for a while now), healthier, longer lived, and generally better off.
Bounsingonbongos1
Where, exactly, is Medieval Europe's peasantry idealized here, or portrayed with infatuation? o.O
Fen Y He refers to the (historical/literal) period of Romaticism. In CONTRAST to that, this series rather shows, that life wasn't all milk and honey back then.
Bounsingonbongos1 Misguided
I don't know if it's the art style, the sarcastic narrators voice, or the actions of the peasant crusaders but I found this extremely hilarious 😆
I like your scorecard. It really summed the whole thing up.
Love your history vids! They give so much informtion in a comical and accessible way. Keep up the good work guys!
AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN NIS I CAN SAY YOUR DRAWING OF NIS FORTRESS IS 100% CORETCT!!! GOOD JOB MAN!!!
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@@drkabrka3169 meni pise da si to napisao pre 41 minut
@@PeraRambo Jesam ali si ti napisao komentar pre 4 godine
Extra Credits/History, you good folks are a sight for sore eyes. In this age of misinformation and ignorance it's heartwarming to see an honest attempt to bring a little light in our lives. Deus Volt! Lol. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication!
Homeless people randomly looting, pillaging and killing everything that breathes air? Are you sure you aren't describing my World of Warcraft character?
For some strange reason, this reminds me of my Dragon Age: Origins playthrough. Maybe it's the constant pillaging.
The amount of death and carnage of these events does nothing to stop this from being hilarious.
Truly this is the greatest history if all.
"Swear that you're not gonna kill anybody or break my things."
*proceeds to kill a lot of people and break everything*
It's not crazy to think that people became a whole lot stupider between 500 and 1000 AD is it? This history sounds a lot more like Dark fall history or of any other pvp based mmorpg than the sophisticated stuff that happened thousands of years earlier between the Romans and Egyptians or centuries later.
“They did many crusades. Some of which almost didn’t fail”
I keep trying to rewatch this for context and clarity, yet every time I just walk away a little more confused😂😂
The level of incompetence in this office is S T A 👏 G E R 👏 I N G 👏
These are fantastic thank you man!
Ok... So far, they've began the first crusade three times in the series.
This whole Crusade thing sounds like one massive rave world tour
The first crusade is more hilarious than I though. XD
Thank you for this. Fascinating stuff!
Anyone remember Disney's Sword in the Stone? The Crusades seems to be a long list of that moment of Sir Ector slapping his face as Kay gets defeated by a target dummy and yelling NNOO NO NOOOO!!!
And to think this turned out to be one of the more successful crusades.
Terrible its truly disgusting how these people killed and pillaged in the name of a cause that they in no way helped.
Admiral Attila But Pope Urban II never promised loot or glory to the crusaders and he never intended for common people to join the crusade.
Thomas Rogers basically this told the Turks a bigger more powerful force is on the way best get ready
Thomas Rogers Well, I doubt most of the common folk knew much about what the pope had actually said.
Europe was a legit insane place to live throughout most of history.
I feel bad for Peter. He was probably like "Guys, no, stop. Please, I just want to go crusade. No don't kill that guy, stop pillaging for a second. Please?"
men you actually make this part of history an absolute comedy
It is said that every society is three missed meals away from anarchy. I suppose it should be said that every peasant crusade, no matter how much driven by idealism originally, is three missed meals away from going on a looting rampage. Which will likely happen sooner rather than later, as peasant crusades aren't known for having good logistics.
This is like the South Sea Bubble series in that it's practically comical!
With the difference that there's a lot more people dead directly because of it. But you know, history is that way.
yet so many christians today continue to believe the crusades were such glorious and wonderful thing
+Poepurd to sir are an idiot
***** proof dumbass
***** of proof? cuz I'm pretty sure everyone is worthy of that
***** nah I live in the US so I'm not what you surfs call a peasant
Terry Hsiao Please tell me you are joking...
Europe: Start crusade to retake the Holy Land
Also Europe: It hurt itself in its confusion
someone really wanted a new pair of shoes so badly that the price was over 4000 lives, bloody hell they must have been really good for that to happen
alucard from mobile legends
How can you get the outro music? Google aint got me shit :c
TotalMadnessMan It's linked below the video, and was created special for this series by our new composers, Sean and Dean Kiner!
Extra Credits Ohh I understand. Thanks! Can I assume that is also the same with the older Extra History videos?
Extra Credits Tell them they did a mighty fine job. o7
Rafael Castro Now I know.
+TotalMadnessMan and knowing is half the battle....sorry XD
The First Crusade in a nutshell：Pillage Pillage Pillage
1:00 Shoes. A siege to a city, born in a dispute over SHOES.
lol love the lampshade. i was thinking it seemed like a frat party gone horribly out of control.
This is one of those topics that I just can't research on my own, because I will probably end up smashing my laptop or something
I HAD NEVER KNOWN MY CITY (the provincial Nis) WAS A CAPITAL!!! Damn, son
I love Extra History, but I think I'm particularly a fan of the the ones like this or the South Sea Bubble: the ones about absolute disasters.
Yes it was in fact a dumb idea and ended in a horrible catastrophy but to Peters Credit I have to say that he only wanted to capture Jerusalem and did (probably) not want this...
Well done mister pope. well done. Loved the scorecard at the end
The Byzantine governor “ I hate my job.”