The HVAC Profession has advanced 1000 fold with MQ which continues to get better and better. My techs are much more productive with MQ. The best feature we all like is the NON invasive mode. It has been a game changer reducing refrigerant loss when connecting gauges during PMs. The use of probes instead of hose to gauge also greatly reduce loss. The EPA should recognize MQ in this regards. Reduce weight of tools on RTUs is another note worthy benefit. We just need a tablet that is direct sun readable for us old folks
The fundamentals are the best place to improve. It is so easy to gloss over something basic as rudimentary without fully mastering the concept or connecting it into a larger working model. Every athlete operating at a high level trains and doubles down on fundamentals because that’s where the 1% improvements come from day after day.
I’m not an HVAC technician. I just repair and maintain my own HVAC equipment. There’s nothing wrong with using automated tools, especially when they produce better results. I’ve never even used an analog manifold gauge set. My Testo Smart Probes are more accurate and not subject to the arithmetic errors people tend to make. I’m also lazy and would prefer not to have to continuously monitor two pairs of measurements and do subtraction in my head. However, I do own a set of analog manifold gauges and thermocouples in case something ever happens to my Smart Probes. My issue with this as an industry outsider is I don’t think someone who is incapable of calculating superheat and subcooling has a good enough grasp of HVAC fundamentals to be out in the field working on jobs alone. Someone who can enter numbers into TurboTax and produce a correct tax return but doesn’t understand accounting principles isn’t an accountant and shouldn't represent themselves as an accountant. Someone who can use measurement equipment but doesn’t understand what the measurements mean isn’t an HVAC technician. It's a bit ironic that an industry notorious for insisting DIYers are too incompetent to go anywhere near HVAC equipment apparently has technicians working within it who would be lost without a cell phone app to do the thinking for them. I’d be pretty irritated if I called for an HVAC technician, and the contractor charged me $100+ per hour for someone so incompetent they have to call tech support to figure out their probes are swapped. But don’t get me wrong. If a cell phone app can be made foolproof enough that someone who doesn’t understand HVAC fundamentals can use it to diagnose problems as well as a competent technician, I’m all for it. As a consumer, I like the idea of paying mechanic prices for technician results. For the individual doing the work, it’s a bit sad they are deprived of the joy of understanding, but that’s not my problem. Great video, by the way. I enjoy listening to these kinds of discussions between people well practiced in their field. I've learned a lot from both of you.
@@measureQuick is there a place online I can go? My boss is not going to pay for a trip to Ohio.I just need a document that shows how to put site, equipment, and how to use measurequick offline. Each time I attempt to use the app, I have to create new equipment before I can get readings. I guess I can’t go over 25 attempts without deleting some. Is there a page in MQ I can go to get a list of previous equipment attempts? I find stuff like “Site 23” with no previous equipment no address or tests, etc.. I just need to know how to navigate your software. As far as performing the actual tests, I like the analysis MeasureQuick presents once I’m in a test. I’ve seen some of your videos on how to use it; but you’re further along in the example than I can get. I’d like to see a pdf document of sequential screens/steps from start to ”save to device” so I can get back to the test or test again if needed. This is great software, I just wish I could navigate it better. It can’t be that difficult to understand. I feel like an idiot. I discovered MeasureQuick while I was in refrigeration class; but, the instructor knew nothing about it so no help there. I have six walk-in coolers in the department I need to maintain and repair as well as many bench top chillers. Thanks for creating such powerful software. I look forward to being able to utilize it in my job.
need to learn how to do calculations manually before using computers/phones. otherwise it is like teaching kids to just use a calculator instead of how to do arithmetic by hand first. continue on this path and we'll be living in idiocracy soon enough.
Then let’s teach them all the calculations. Superheat and subcooling are only a subset. We need to also be able to calculate what the gauge pressure should be before we hook up the gauges, what the temperature split should be before we measure it, what the target superheat should be before we compare it to the actual, etc. We should even do the same with capacity. 90% of the industry can’t do the calculations above. Why are we so concerned with two when the rest or what tell the story of how the systems actually operating.
@@measureQuick should know how to do all calculations by hand first of course. some shortcuts are okay, like there are charts that say what the supply temperature should be given return wet and drybulb. No need to check airflow and capacity on every system - if you have low airflow it will show up as low suction pressure and well as lower than normal supply temperature.
@@measureQuick just to add, i think the problem is this industry has a lot of trouble attracting the more intelligent academic types - it is attracting the worst who can physically learn how to do something and repeat it but aren't intelligent enough to understand theory well and don't have a drive to do any independent learning. That's can't be fixed by technology!
@@Jon-hx7pe you’re only correct if you have correct charge. Airflow should always be checked at least once to eliminate it as a variable going forward.
@@measureQuick of course proper airflow should be verified b4 dealing with charge if the numbers are off. major issue is furnaces shipping with cooling blower set to high and it' s left there no matter what tonnage is installed.
The HVAC Profession has advanced 1000 fold with MQ which continues to get better and better. My techs are much more productive with MQ. The best feature we all like is the NON invasive mode. It has been a game changer reducing refrigerant loss when connecting gauges during PMs. The use of probes instead of hose to gauge also greatly reduce loss. The EPA should recognize MQ in this regards. Reduce weight of tools on RTUs is another note worthy benefit. We just need a tablet that is direct sun readable for us old folks
I love measure quick it’s made me understand the all the measurements much easier to understand . I only use 7 probs but eventually I will get more
The fundamentals are the best place to improve. It is so easy to gloss over something basic as rudimentary without fully mastering the concept or connecting it into a larger working model. Every athlete operating at a high level trains and doubles down on fundamentals because that’s where the 1% improvements come from day after day.
Great discussion and info. Thank you, Jim and Ty. We need more like this.
Don't be afraid of that something is going to change in this business. It is.Very good information and a lot of knowledge.
I’m not an HVAC technician. I just repair and maintain my own HVAC equipment.
There’s nothing wrong with using automated tools, especially when they produce better results. I’ve never even used an analog manifold gauge set. My Testo Smart Probes are more accurate and not subject to the arithmetic errors people tend to make. I’m also lazy and would prefer not to have to continuously monitor two pairs of measurements and do subtraction in my head. However, I do own a set of analog manifold gauges and thermocouples in case something ever happens to my Smart Probes.
My issue with this as an industry outsider is I don’t think someone who is incapable of calculating superheat and subcooling has a good enough grasp of HVAC fundamentals to be out in the field working on jobs alone. Someone who can enter numbers into TurboTax and produce a correct tax return but doesn’t understand accounting principles isn’t an accountant and shouldn't represent themselves as an accountant. Someone who can use measurement equipment but doesn’t understand what the measurements mean isn’t an HVAC technician.
It's a bit ironic that an industry notorious for insisting DIYers are too incompetent to go anywhere near HVAC equipment apparently has technicians working within it who would be lost without a cell phone app to do the thinking for them. I’d be pretty irritated if I called for an HVAC technician, and the contractor charged me $100+ per hour for someone so incompetent they have to call tech support to figure out their probes are swapped.
But don’t get me wrong. If a cell phone app can be made foolproof enough that someone who doesn’t understand HVAC fundamentals can use it to diagnose problems as well as a competent technician, I’m all for it. As a consumer, I like the idea of paying mechanic prices for technician results. For the individual doing the work, it’s a bit sad they are deprived of the joy of understanding, but that’s not my problem.
Great video, by the way. I enjoy listening to these kinds of discussions between people well practiced in their field. I've learned a lot from both of you.
Get some content on commercial equipment.
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35:19 - Jim, where can I go to learn MeasureQuick all the way through as well as you know it?
@@garypoplin4599 we have classes in Ohio several times a year.
measurequick.com/training/
@@measureQuick is there a place online I can go? My boss is not going to pay for a trip to Ohio.I just need a document that shows how to put site, equipment, and how to use measurequick offline. Each time I attempt to use the app, I have to create new equipment before I can get readings. I guess I can’t go over 25 attempts without deleting some. Is there a page in MQ I can go to get a list of previous equipment attempts? I find stuff like “Site 23” with no previous equipment no address or tests, etc.. I just need to know how to navigate your software. As far as performing the actual tests, I like the analysis MeasureQuick presents once I’m in a test. I’ve seen some of your videos on how to use it; but you’re further along in the example than I can get. I’d like to see a pdf document of sequential screens/steps from start to ”save to device” so I can get back to the test or test again if needed. This is great software, I just wish I could navigate it better. It can’t be that difficult to understand. I feel like an idiot. I discovered MeasureQuick while I was in refrigeration class; but, the instructor knew nothing about it so no help there. I have six walk-in coolers in the department I need to maintain and repair as well as many bench top chillers. Thanks for creating such powerful software. I look forward to being able to utilize it in my job.
need to learn how to do calculations manually before using computers/phones. otherwise it is like teaching kids to just use a calculator instead of how to do arithmetic by hand first.
continue on this path and we'll be living in idiocracy soon enough.
Then let’s teach them all the calculations. Superheat and subcooling are only a subset. We need to also be able to calculate what the gauge pressure should be before we hook up the gauges, what the temperature split should be before we measure it, what the target superheat should be before we compare it to the actual, etc. We should even do the same with capacity. 90% of the industry can’t do the calculations above. Why are we so concerned with two when the rest or what tell the story of how the systems actually operating.
@@measureQuick should know how to do all calculations by hand first of course.
some shortcuts are okay, like there are charts that say what the supply temperature should be given return wet and drybulb. No need to check airflow and capacity on every system - if you have low airflow it will show up as low suction pressure and well as lower than normal supply temperature.
@@measureQuick just to add, i think the problem is this industry has a lot of trouble attracting the more intelligent academic types - it is attracting the worst who can physically learn how to do something and repeat it but aren't intelligent enough to understand theory well and don't have a drive to do any independent learning.
That's can't be fixed by technology!
@@Jon-hx7pe you’re only correct if you have correct charge. Airflow should always be checked at least once to eliminate it as a variable going forward.
@@measureQuick of course proper airflow should be verified b4 dealing with charge if the numbers are off. major issue is furnaces shipping with cooling blower set to high and it' s left there no matter what tonnage is installed.