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I think you oversimplified the Sonic + Mario Olympics saga, it was the Olympic committee that wanted to flirt with NFTs, The Olympic committee picks who gets to make the official game, and they choose a mobile games company who promised and under delivered
Sorry, I actually really disagree with the framing of this video as “games dying.” Most of these games are still fully playable, many of them on modern hardware. A game doesn’t die unless it’s online and the servers are shut down. There’s no need for endless refreshes of the same IPs year after year just to “keep the franchise alive.” Old games are still good - like you can still play and enjoy games made in 2000. Why is a game “killed” if it hasn’t been released in the last couple years?
Absolute banger video as always man! I look back at some series that I wish we could have gotten more of and I'm a little sad but I suppose it's better than seeing them rushed out and their good name desecrated over some quick money. Personally I wish we could get another Red Faction and some more Ape Escape games and I guess a more recent example would have been more Evil Within as Tango just got shut down. Also I'm so glad you mentioned Billy Hatcher I thought that was a fever dream or Mandela Effect ngl. I think there's a fine line between remaking something to honor it or to bring back a franchise that people loved, and just doing it out of desperation and its hard to tell sometimes especially if it's something a lot of people hold dearly.
Welp I’m glad I’m not the only one who was tripping off of Billy's existence lol 🍄 It’s definitely hard when something with such palpable potential is lost, so I feel you on that ~ The Evil Within getting shafted was a tough pill to swallow, especially considering how much we both liked the sequel and hey It might be cope on my end, but sometimes I think the best thing for a game is a peaceful end.
Mate, just wanna say I clicked on this video not thinking much and wanted to know more about game deaths. Watched until the end and am shocked how small your channel is. Visuals and editing on point and those IRL camera shots make it so much more personal and fun. You’re gonna go far pal!
I wholeheartedly agree my friend ~ maybe we'll get a spiritual successor one day, but truthfully, a game as ambitious as Spore needs decent financial backing 😔
One of the reasons I think some games are great are simply because they never got the chance to be milked. Their future promise is what makes them beloved
100%, a graceful end is often the best outcome these games could hope for. It’s preferable to conclude on a high note rather than suffer the fate of franchises like Far Cry, Assassin’s Creed, or those from EA/Activision/etc. that are stretched thin for profit. Sometimes, it's better to be remembered fondly or even fade into obscurity than to be reduced to a shell of what made you great.
Miyamoto said that he has no interest in making another Starfox unless he can come up with a new gameplay idea for it. Thats why Zero had motion controls, larger space, and new vehicles, because that was the only new things he could think of.
Sony: "We need a new live action multiplayer shooter based off of Overwatch and Guardians of the Galaxy..... Why did this fail?" Also Sony: "Let's not bank on our popular single player franchises like Killzone, Resistance or Motorstorm"
As far as franchises go I think most of my favorites are still in pretty healthy place. There's lots of one offs that will never be touched, but I don't really know how many of them I would want to come back with reboot or sequel.
Devil's advocate: It's a good thing that all these people lost their jobs as developers, because, as you can see with a lot of media coming out, they don't have the same kind of passion behind them as older media did. A great example is Left 4 Dead, vs Back 4 Blood. You have so many people in charge of things that either want to push their own message that they think is more important than an actually good game and good story, or, you have someone wanting to just ride off the success of those that came before them. Both are disgusting. Time and again, a company will use "from the creators of ____" and that's because they don't have any faith in their own product selling, unless, you know that this once great company is making this thing. It's not the same the team, it's not gonna be the same game. They raise an old franchise claiming that they're the same people that made what you loved, when in reality, they don't even really care about that franchise. They might claim they do, but they don't. The wrong developers and leaders have continually been in the wrong place and, and this massive layoff is mostly just those wrong people in charge getting flushed. Of course, more than likely, more wrong people will fill those now available roles, because both you the consumer as well as the company, don't learn their lesson... and the cycle will continue until that lesson is either taught to both the company and the consumer, or that business disappears due to screwing up too many times. Money really does talks, and money, is the new God, and though people say that boycotting doesn't do anything, that is because you are doing it indivually. When a collective does it, together, it does hurt the company. Those failures and layoffs are necessary to the health of gaming. Heck even the gaming culture that we've created and have been conditioned to, needs to die. Death is not the end, it's a whole new potential for beginning.
2:36 they NEED to make a third game with the original director. They are also trying to make a movie but im scared its gonna be live action instead of an anime styled movie
Xbox 360 and ps4 gave me some or the best gaming experiences of all time My biggest issue with games now (apart from the wokeness) is that companies go for style over substance. Instead of playing a game, i have to sit through so much dialogue, follow npcs and sit through cutscenes, let me play the damn game, yes your game looks amazing Most recent example of this for me, Metro Exodus
I wouldn't be surprised, got a whole discord set up for video ideas lmao, glad it finally came together tho! And I honestly appreciate you checking it out 🙌
We all only know about what we know. And, yes, overall you are right (for me). But, you also said that the Gravity Rush 2 was only with ps4 (true), but only the fans with Vitas could play the first game. Gravity Rush was remaked from Vita to the ps4, and I'm betting that more people played the remake. Especially since those of us who played it on the vita probably also played it on the ps4, such as myself. I think they decided well to put gr2 for the ps4. And Sony really had bad decides for the ps vita, which is sad. I love Gravity Rush and the Vita. Still to this day. Which makes me a little sad.
Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie. However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations. Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.
ngl this is a really good video, but id focus more on the script and on entonation and vibe of the video, its too fast and alive to talk about dead games, energy is off
Thanks for the feedback! 🫡 I like playing with the idea of tonal dissonance, that what’s drab doesn’t always need to feel that way y'know ~ but you’re right, dialling it back in some spots could make the message even stronger. Always learning and finding the balance so thanks again, your insight really helps! 😊
@@removedm no worries man, ur editing is very good, look at videos like astrophobia in games or games with dying worlds, those resemble what i mean on focus more on script and tone, God bless you!
@@Krizpenguin Thanks again! You might like my Ctrl+Feel series ~ only three videos to it's name so far, but those have more of that introspective tone you're talking about. Stay blessed 🙏ua-cam.com/play/PLjJD1us9E0yQkvsPOaYx0nVP32QeEgDNV.html&si=x3cuAbvw8oJmB33o
Don’t get me wrong I agree with the the premise but feel like a lot the examples here were grossly over simplified or completely fails to understand why these franchises died.. Gravity rush 2 That didn’t die because it wasn’t on the Vita, the vita by this point was a massive failure and everyone had written off, it was well dead, and the entire audience wasn’t on the vita because Sony ported the first game to the ps4 2 years before the launch of GR2. And the ps4 wasn’t shiny and new it had been out for 4 years by that point…… but I’ll agree the lack of marketing was probably the biggest cause of its death. Also the death of Japan studios was a goddamn tragedy. Little big planet died because LBP3 was the worst selling game of the series (likely because they failed to meaningfully innovate between games). And while we don’t have exact numbers for sack boys big adventure when it came to steam it barely sold more than 100k copies in the first month, so if console sales were comparable I wouldn’t be surprised If LBP was just a franchise with no audience left, and honestly seems like sackboy has been completely replaced by Astrobot as Sonys first party PlayStation platformer. Blood borne isn’t getting a sequel because PlayStation won’t let Miyazaki, they would kill for another console exclusive From Soft game dudes just been busy making other games that interest him and the studio more (Selkiro, elden ring, AC6) Watch dogs, I agree for the most part but Watch Dogs 2 despite being better in every way sold worse than the first game (likely due to reputation). Stuck between a bland first entry and an amazing second entry that sold worse they at least tried to experiment with the format and do something new with the 3rd (that unfortunately needed more time playtesting). And then Prey…. Don’t get me wrong I believe it’s the best game of the generation, but like the running theme we have here it was a massive sales flop, and this could be because of the confusing name, the lack of marketing, the niche genre, or the derivative art direction or unsatisfactory gunplay that turned off casuals. For the most part I agree with the video but I just kept thinking “technically yes but you’re missing some context.” And for what it’s worth your editing and presentation are impeccable and my nitpicks are only like 8% of an amazing video, can’t wait to see what else you make.
*Firstly, thanks so much for watching-means the world to me.* When it comes to the scripting process, I usually end up with a few drafts that differ quite a bit from each other ~ early on, I decided I wanted this project to be more fun than anything else, painting a general picture of the games mentioned rather than diving deep into every detail. This did come at the cost of leaving out the nitty-gritty, as I aimed for a faster-paced approach when writing the final draft ~ saying what I needed to say in fewer words. I'll admit, the *'newly released PS4'* was an oversight ~ didn't catch that until you pointed it out lol _(smh there's always at least one error in each video)_ ~ And I totally acknowledge that the *'PSVita wasn’t exactly Sony's star child'* in the script/video. Regarding LBP, I kinda wanted to sing the games praise as that franchise means a lot to me, cutting *Sony, Media Molecule and Sumo Digital* some slack before closing it out as *'the perfect example of how most great games slowly fade away and die'* ~ I actually had sales data in an earlier draft but decided to cut it, thinking it might bore some viewers. So comments like yours are definitely beneficial for those wanting more *'lore,'* so to speak. My reasoning for taking this approach wasn’t out of laziness or negligence ~ I was experimenting, trying to create a more engaging video that contrasted with my last project, which really took a lot out of me. As a smaller creator, I sometimes take liberties, assuming no one will care or watch, but comments like yours remind me that people are in fact watching and that there’s always room to improve. *I genuinely appreciate your time, feedback, and kind words.* I hope to see you in the comments of another video down the road. Take care 🤍
Wasn't Assassin's creed Origins Beloved one of the best game of last gen , Odessy was good and Valhalla was one of the best selling assassin's creed games at that point ... your just Regurgitating generalised sentiments from a few verbal groups of the time ... without probably having had any experience with the games yourself.. titanfall 2 is still got players it's a 2015 game
Thanks for watching ~ I remember playing Burnout Paradise when I was younger and having a lot of fun online with friends, plus crash mode was peak gaming.
what does it mean for a game to be "dead"? you can still play Bully and all those games offline.. what...? maybe you explained it later but i stopped watching
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Also, are there any dead games you miss playing?
*Let me know in the comments below🤔*
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peak video as always.
also Sony’s fall off needs to be studied (i’ll never forgive shutting down PS Japan)
agreed, such a diabolical move from Sony, all that's left is Team Asobi 😢
I think you oversimplified the Sonic + Mario Olympics saga, it was the Olympic committee that wanted to flirt with NFTs, The Olympic committee picks who gets to make the official game, and they choose a mobile games company who promised and under delivered
6:54 reminds me of Deadpool and Wolverine
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Damn this channel has underrated content ngl😍😍😍 Keep up the good work bud!
Appreciate it, more projects are on the way 😊
Sorry, I actually really disagree with the framing of this video as “games dying.” Most of these games are still fully playable, many of them on modern hardware. A game doesn’t die unless it’s online and the servers are shut down. There’s no need for endless refreshes of the same IPs year after year just to “keep the franchise alive.” Old games are still good - like you can still play and enjoy games made in 2000. Why is a game “killed” if it hasn’t been released in the last couple years?
_use me as a _*_where's Viva Piñata 3_*_ button_ 🔴
No
Holy fuck please
@@figgymcsquiggins4487 no yourself
@@bunkerbed3665 no
@@bunkerbed3665 Rare is too busy with Everwild right now.
Absolute banger video as always man!
I look back at some series that I wish we could have gotten more of and I'm a little sad but I suppose it's better than seeing them rushed out and their good name desecrated over some quick money. Personally I wish we could get another Red Faction and some more Ape Escape games and I guess a more recent example would have been more Evil Within as Tango just got shut down. Also I'm so glad you mentioned Billy Hatcher I thought that was a fever dream or Mandela Effect ngl.
I think there's a fine line between remaking something to honor it or to bring back a franchise that people loved, and just doing it out of desperation and its hard to tell sometimes especially if it's something a lot of people hold dearly.
Welp I’m glad I’m not the only one who was tripping off of Billy's existence lol 🍄 It’s definitely hard when something with such palpable potential is lost, so I feel you on that ~ The Evil Within getting shafted was a tough pill to swallow, especially considering how much we both liked the sequel and hey It might be cope on my end, but sometimes I think the best thing for a game is a peaceful end.
Nintendog’s mentioned!!!! My childhood😍
That game was EVERYTHING! spent so many hours taking care of my pups🐶
Mate, just wanna say I clicked on this video not thinking much and wanted to know more about game deaths. Watched until the end and am shocked how small your channel is. Visuals and editing on point and those IRL camera shots make it so much more personal and fun. You’re gonna go far pal!
Comments like this are so important, thank you so much for taking the time to leave it ❤️
another Spore game in this generation would be awesome because the first game just couldn’t do what it set out to, tons of potential there for sure.
I wholeheartedly agree my friend ~ maybe we'll get a spiritual successor one day, but truthfully, a game as ambitious as Spore needs decent financial backing 😔
10:36 Kinda sad that the directors for Sonic Frontiers literally had to beg Sega to give them more time on the game
One of the reasons I think some games are great are simply because they never got the chance to be milked. Their future promise is what makes them beloved
100%, a graceful end is often the best outcome these games could hope for. It’s preferable to conclude on a high note rather than suffer the fate of franchises like Far Cry, Assassin’s Creed, or those from EA/Activision/etc. that are stretched thin for profit. Sometimes, it's better to be remembered fondly or even fade into obscurity than to be reduced to a shell of what made you great.
Miyamoto said that he has no interest in making another Starfox unless he can come up with a new gameplay idea for it. Thats why Zero had motion controls, larger space, and new vehicles, because that was the only new things he could think of.
Underrated channel
He is gonna go far
Sony: "We need a new live action multiplayer shooter based off of Overwatch and Guardians of the Galaxy..... Why did this fail?"
Also Sony: "Let's not bank on our popular single player franchises like Killzone, Resistance or Motorstorm"
Resistance was my first online shooter
valve had nothing to do with those games dying. the fact that those games SUCKED did.
As far as franchises go I think most of my favorites are still in pretty healthy place. There's lots of one offs that will never be touched, but I don't really know how many of them I would want to come back with reboot or sequel.
Devil's advocate: It's a good thing that all these people lost their jobs as developers, because, as you can see with a lot of media coming out, they don't have the same kind of passion behind them as older media did. A great example is Left 4 Dead, vs Back 4 Blood.
You have so many people in charge of things that either want to push their own message that they think is more important than an actually good game and good story, or, you have someone wanting to just ride off the success of those that came before them. Both are disgusting. Time and again, a company will use "from the creators of ____" and that's because they don't have any faith in their own product selling, unless, you know that this once great company is making this thing. It's not the same the team, it's not gonna be the same game. They raise an old franchise claiming that they're the same people that made what you loved, when in reality, they don't even really care about that franchise. They might claim they do, but they don't. The wrong developers and leaders have continually been in the wrong place and, and this massive layoff is mostly just those wrong people in charge getting flushed.
Of course, more than likely, more wrong people will fill those now available roles, because both you the consumer as well as the company, don't learn their lesson... and the cycle will continue until that lesson is either taught to both the company and the consumer, or that business disappears due to screwing up too many times. Money really does talks, and money, is the new God, and though people say that boycotting doesn't do anything, that is because you are doing it indivually. When a collective does it, together, it does hurt the company. Those failures and layoffs are necessary to the health of gaming. Heck even the gaming culture that we've created and have been conditioned to, needs to die. Death is not the end, it's a whole new potential for beginning.
They’ve made loads of bomberman, it hasn’t been killed
2:36 they NEED to make a third game with the original director. They are also trying to make a movie but im scared its gonna be live action instead of an anime styled movie
The way your shoes came into the frame @ 5:50 😂
if you look closely my mic flew off 💀
GOODNIGHT GIRL, I'LL SEE YA TMRW
I hate the hackers that caused lbp to die off
Wanting gravity rush on vita was like wanting final fantasy 16 on ps2. But yeah, studios shouldn’t just perpetually make the same ip.
I like that you laminated those papers.
The legend returns.
why is he surfing the bread skates?
Xbox 360 and ps4 gave me some or the best gaming experiences of all time
My biggest issue with games now (apart from the wokeness) is that companies go for style over substance. Instead of playing a game, i have to sit through so much dialogue, follow npcs and sit through cutscenes, let me play the damn game, yes your game looks amazing
Most recent example of this for me, Metro Exodus
Great video idea, I remember we talked about this once too!
I wouldn't be surprised, got a whole discord set up for video ideas lmao, glad it finally came together tho! And I honestly appreciate you checking it out 🙌
ngl I really miss Club Penguin 😅
We all only know about what we know. And, yes, overall you are right (for me). But, you also said that the Gravity Rush 2 was only with ps4 (true), but only the fans with Vitas could play the first game. Gravity Rush was remaked from Vita to the ps4, and I'm betting that more people played the remake. Especially since those of us who played it on the vita probably also played it on the ps4, such as myself. I think they decided well to put gr2 for the ps4. And Sony really had bad decides for the ps vita, which is sad.
I love Gravity Rush and the Vita. Still to this day. Which makes me a little sad.
love the channel man I'm glad I stumbled across it!
Welcome aboard ☺️🧡
Still holding out hope for Banjo-Threeie
Banjo was never met to continue. The original intention for Rare is to create an adventure game called Project Dream on the SNES, but it was moved to the N 64, it wasn't working for some reason. Mostly like because realistic games can be difficult to work on N 64, such as Golden Eye. So Project Dream became Banjo Kazooie.
However now that the N 64 era has ended, Rare no longer needs the Banjo and Kazooie. Why, DK 64. People did not like the backtracking of that game, and while Banjo Tooie's backtracking isn't as bad. Rare might be worried that another Banjo game would suffer the same problems as DK 64 if not worse. It's sad but it's true, some of the greatest games exists because of hardware limitations.
Thankfuly are Banjo like games such as Demon Turf Neon Splash, Hat in Time, and Tinykin.
I just realized I need Portal VR in my life.
Been waiting for another video....yet again fantastic quality!!!
More to come!
nice Tony Hawk interlude/hommage at 05:45. 😂🛹
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what an excellent thumbnail good job keep it up you’ll blow up
Thank you, I hope so💗
Was that High on Life music?
yup, the soundtrack for that game is underrated af ~ also all the music I used in the video is listed in the description, by the way.
ngl this is a really good video, but id focus more on the script and on entonation and vibe of the video, its too fast and alive to talk about dead games, energy is off
Thanks for the feedback! 🫡 I like playing with the idea of tonal dissonance, that what’s drab doesn’t always need to feel that way y'know ~ but you’re right, dialling it back in some spots could make the message even stronger. Always learning and finding the balance so thanks again, your insight really helps! 😊
@@removedm no worries man, ur editing is very good, look at videos like astrophobia in games or games with dying worlds, those resemble what i mean on focus more on script and tone, God bless you!
@@Krizpenguin Thanks again! You might like my Ctrl+Feel series ~ only three videos to it's name so far, but those have more of that introspective tone you're talking about. Stay blessed 🙏ua-cam.com/play/PLjJD1us9E0yQkvsPOaYx0nVP32QeEgDNV.html&si=x3cuAbvw8oJmB33o
Don’t get me wrong I agree with the the premise but feel like a lot the examples here were grossly over simplified or completely fails to understand why these franchises died..
Gravity rush 2
That didn’t die because it wasn’t on the Vita, the vita by this point was a massive failure and everyone had written off, it was well dead, and the entire audience wasn’t on the vita because Sony ported the first game to the ps4 2 years before the launch of GR2. And the ps4 wasn’t shiny and new it had been out for 4 years by that point…… but I’ll agree the lack of marketing was probably the biggest cause of its death.
Also the death of Japan studios was a goddamn tragedy.
Little big planet died because LBP3 was the worst selling game of the series (likely because they failed to meaningfully innovate between games). And while we don’t have exact numbers for sack boys big adventure when it came to steam it barely sold more than 100k copies in the first month, so if console sales were comparable I wouldn’t be surprised If LBP was just a franchise with no audience left, and honestly seems like sackboy has been completely replaced by Astrobot as Sonys first party PlayStation platformer.
Blood borne isn’t getting a sequel because PlayStation won’t let Miyazaki, they would kill for another console exclusive From Soft game dudes just been busy making other games that interest him and the studio more (Selkiro, elden ring, AC6)
Watch dogs, I agree for the most part but Watch Dogs 2 despite being better in every way sold worse than the first game (likely due to reputation). Stuck between a bland first entry and an amazing second entry that sold worse they at least tried to experiment with the format and do something new with the 3rd (that unfortunately needed more time playtesting).
And then Prey…. Don’t get me wrong I believe it’s the best game of the generation, but like the running theme we have here it was a massive sales flop, and this could be because of the confusing name, the lack of marketing, the niche genre, or the derivative art direction or unsatisfactory gunplay that turned off casuals.
For the most part I agree with the video but I just kept thinking “technically yes but you’re missing some context.” And for what it’s worth your editing and presentation are impeccable and my nitpicks are only like 8% of an amazing video, can’t wait to see what else you make.
*Firstly, thanks so much for watching-means the world to me.* When it comes to the scripting process, I usually end up with a few drafts that differ quite a bit from each other ~ early on, I decided I wanted this project to be more fun than anything else, painting a general picture of the games mentioned rather than diving deep into every detail. This did come at the cost of leaving out the nitty-gritty, as I aimed for a faster-paced approach when writing the final draft ~ saying what I needed to say in fewer words.
I'll admit, the *'newly released PS4'* was an oversight ~ didn't catch that until you pointed it out lol _(smh there's always at least one error in each video)_ ~ And I totally acknowledge that the *'PSVita wasn’t exactly Sony's star child'* in the script/video. Regarding LBP, I kinda wanted to sing the games praise as that franchise means a lot to me, cutting *Sony, Media Molecule and Sumo Digital* some slack before closing it out as *'the perfect example of how most great games slowly fade away and die'* ~ I actually had sales data in an earlier draft but decided to cut it, thinking it might bore some viewers. So comments like yours are definitely beneficial for those wanting more *'lore,'* so to speak.
My reasoning for taking this approach wasn’t out of laziness or negligence ~ I was experimenting, trying to create a more engaging video that contrasted with my last project, which really took a lot out of me. As a smaller creator, I sometimes take liberties, assuming no one will care or watch, but comments like yours remind me that people are in fact watching and that there’s always room to improve. *I genuinely appreciate your time, feedback, and kind words.* I hope to see you in the comments of another video down the road. Take care 🤍
Wasn't Assassin's creed Origins Beloved one of the best game of last gen , Odessy was good and Valhalla was one of the best selling assassin's creed games at that point ... your just Regurgitating generalised sentiments from a few verbal groups of the time ... without probably having had any experience with the games yourself.. titanfall 2 is still got players it's a 2015 game
Bullet Storm.
Black
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WE GOT A HIT ON OUR HANDS
I want them to remake f.e.a.r and make a new condemned game.
I somehow completely forgot about those games. I loved the first F.E.A.R. game ~ a literal masterpiece of action horror.
I just played a multilayer game of titanfall 2
Great video. Reminded me of the Burnout series that may not get another game
Thanks for watching ~ I remember playing Burnout Paradise when I was younger and having a lot of fun online with friends, plus crash mode was peak gaming.
what does it mean for a game to be "dead"? you can still play Bully and all those games offline.. what...? maybe you explained it later but i stopped watching
Yeah, I did during the segment *'Natural Death'* @ 16:09 🫡
@@removedm such a strange thing to call a game simply existing for over X amount of time without sequels, but i get it, you gotta do the clickbait...
apologies for trying to be creative, my fault 😥
How many print outs do you have?
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Yes but some time indie developer's make I game inperd be those games.
wow so mamzing xontent