"I got a game, the name on the cover said Silent Hill 2, my favourite game's name. It's ridiculous! Couldn't possibly be true, that's what I keep telling myself... A Ps5 can't play a Ps2 game. My favourite game died with my damn Ps2, 3 years ago."
Guy always sounded like he was in a dreamlike state, kind of out of it. It's unnatural sounding, but kinda works given the situation. Luke on the other hand adds this nuanced exhaustion mixed with muted confusion that totally feels like a man drifting through life, also almost in a dreamlike state but a much more realistic one. I really like his more complex performance.
Bloober team done pretty good job on Eddie They make him like you want to help him but as the story goes you feel like don't want to go near him and he's obviously dangerous if you didn't know how to approach him This makes Eddie more dangerous and make his character to be taken seriously
@@ardiansyahindiechannel3166 the fight with him in the original is broken. I finished the the game last night and killed him so quick just holding R2 and X with the metal pipe
@@Lordicus21 yeah the first fight is easy Just spam steel pipe at him But the second fight is hard because Eddie is unpredictable In normal it would take a 6 or more shotgun shot to kill him But in hard difficult Eddie is hard to defeat he often move unpredictable This is the hard part for me to get 10 star run in the og Beside the boat sequence
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 I finished the fight with him on the Remake last night, not short at all. Is also splitted into two parts, and took way more time. Angela's Father also is waaay more difficult and have a lot of sessions before finishing him
Yes. In original game he scared me the first time I had seen him - something in him was really creepy. But in remake he truly look like someone you wanna help, he doesn't look evil or crazy. That's why his transfirmation is soooo good, you can really see his slow changes and he is not just a nice and funny fat guy
Even a decade after first playing the game, and going through it countless times, the original letter reading was able to bring me to tears in the right headspace. I think the remake is great albeit very different, but the biggest crime imo was Maria and Mary’s portrayal. I’m not sure if the new actress is weak or if it’s more a matter of the direction she was given, but it really flubs some of the MOST important parts of the story, the prison cell, the hospital basement, the letter etc. The letter reading just doesn’t even come close
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 lmao you’re still not making a single point beyond outing yourself as an iPad baby with zero critical thinking skills nor capacity for nuance or discussion. I’m 24.
@@troyb4533 angela been through that and thats EXACTLY why in the remake she doesnt speak like someone that has, she speaks like a bored and spoiled teenager, and as i mentioned, the cemetary scene best shows that
@@troyb4533you miss the point that she also has anger issues like the original. She committed homicide because she finally snapped. The original shows both sides of Angela while the remake just has her at the depressed monotone victim who didn't commit murder sound. They missed that part of her anger and suspicion of men entirely.
@@francisco646 It's from the director who did the first SH and it will closely follow SH2 story. So I'm sure it'll be amazing. Can't wait. It's been my most anticipated movie ever since it was announced.
So, they're aging Laura up to a teenager? 'course that shouldn't come as a shock. The guy playing James looks nothing like his game counterpart; looking more like Jacob from Jacob's Ladder, instead.
@@madamefluffy4788 Yeah, it's one of my favorite horror movies. SH was just based on the IP itself, but they announced the new movie will portray the story of the second game.
Luke Roberts was incredible as James. Eddies voice actor was incredible, and Angela’s voice actor was incredible. My only criticism is with the actor for Maria. She was good, but in multiple scenes she did not hit the mark. Such as the jail cell scene, and the reading of the letter at the end. She didn’t put enough emotion into her performance. In the jail cell scene, she failed to capture that subtle shift between Mary and Maria.
I honestly like the new Maria very much. Don’t get me wrong, I love the original one, but she somewhat felt a little bit in-the-face to me. I don’t know how to explain. She didn’t sound like a normal person, in an “I would immediately distrust a woman who behaved and spoke to me like this” way. New Maria may sound a bit more “plain” or “reserved”, in a sense, but I feel she sounds more believable as a normal (or, well, normal-passing) girl. I think the old VA was great for an early 2000s game, but it might sound very uncanny (and not in a good way) in a game with such realistic graphics. To me, a more naturalistic and subtle voice acting was the sensible approach in this Remake.
@@Francesc1983 that's kinda the point bro. It's dream logic not reality and maria is a part of that dream her not coming across as natural or real is the point.
@@samuraibear5102 Yes, that was the point of the original one, bro. And the point of the remake is trying to be more realistic. And in my oppinion, of which everyone has their own, it works better in this instance due to the more realistic graphics. If I saw seemingly real people speaking as the characters did in the original game, it would just seem to be bad acting.
The painful cries Lukes' James makes when he physically beats those monsters are so guttural. Its like he really, *really* hates physically harming them.
Totally with you until the last sentence, to me it comes across more as cries of desperation, an average unskilled man just fighting for his life. Like they can even sound pathetic every once in a while, which is perfect and exactly how it should have been done. Great addition to the game imo
I love how his voice breaks when he gets hit too, he's sick of it all and so tired. like you can feel how he wants to get it over with and see Mary, it's the only thing he cares about.
Personally, I see him as desperate to kill them. Since they represent everything he's suppressing. Maybe he isn't enjoying it but he really really wants them dead.
James - OG Va has a special place in my heart. Remake VA is good. Maria / Mary - OG is many times better. Angela - I like both, though I lean towards Remake VA. Laura - Remake VA wins here. Eddie - Holy! REMAKE VA is sooooo good and surpasses original VA.
I agree with you on pretty much everything, but although James OG voice has this haunting aura to it that makes it great, I think the remake one is fantastic. The actor did a phenomenal job on the stuttering and confusing tone on James’ voice, and he made it sound so natural too. You could really feel what the character was going through just by his voice
Even if she doesn't have a long acting career (because she's a bussiness woman after all) Donna got an incredible talent for voice acting. Her performance as Claudia in SH3 is one of the best I've hear in any videogame ever, and that's saying a lot considering she always plays Angela perfectly.
@@quiver5756 yeah. I really liked her performance as Claudia too (she's doing her best Tilda Swinton mimic) she is a great singer but also a underrated voice actress. it's a shame her voice acting career wasn't long, because there was potential
@@conorcahill5422 Anyone who has played OG SH2 know what James had done to Mary; however, when you first start the game, you're not supposed to think there's something up with James - you're just supposed to see him as an average man searching a town for his wife who he believes had died years ago. He only becomes morally ambiguous as the game progresses and you find clues pointing to James' dark actions. It's a problem if you go into the game and you (as a possible new player) know right off the bat he's done something. Hell, it's the reason why so many people were pissed with the initial teaser - with James shaking/sweating profusely as he looked at himself in the mirror at the very start of the game.
Salome's Maria sounded colder and more aloof than Monica's. I think she'd crush it as Claudia, she even looks like her a bit. You should've compared Eddie's puking noises, that's what landed David the role in the original, lol.
The fever dream like quality during the conversations feels absent in the remake. I do give the team big credit for trying to stay extremely faithful to the source material though. They really tried to do it right, and I appreciate that. I feel like some of the line delivery just misses the mark though. One scene in particular that always gets me worked up, is when James is explaining to Angela, that the person he’s looking for is his dead wife, and he says (I don’t know why I’m looking for her). The delivery of that line and the sadness in his voice was just so powerful, and really hits you in the gut. So many of the small emotional moments are slightly less impactful in the remake. It’s okay though, because I never expected them to perfectly replicate it. Silent Hill 2 is a very special case where it’s hard to replicate the original intention behind those scenes.
Yeah, I guess what remake has issue is was overall game directions and voice acting direction. When OG has this paranoid nightmare like atmosphere, remake's feels more like a bad ream.
very much agreed with everything! the ogs delivery is sonething special, with everything sounding uncanny valley like. they dont talk like normal people, they don't seem in touch with reality, they're can switch from emotional to monotone in a second, and it just overall adds to the experience. but I do think this was a one time only thing. team silent was a pretty small team and they got voice actors who weren't as experienced as others. that's not to say they didn't do a great job and all the work they put into their characters isn't noticeable, but I think the fact most of them seem inexperienced and awkward in their delivery just adds to the experience. in any other game it'd probably be taken as "oh, old gane with weird voice acting". but in this case it works very much in silent hills favor, although it'd be very hard to replicate this time, they had the budget to hire more experienced voice actors. and you can tell they tried! they're absolutely not bad, Eddie's voice actor especially was really really good imo. but they know how to talk natural, like a human with emotions, as if it was really them in that situation. instead of people who honestly don't seem as skilled at talking naturally when a camera is on them ultimately I think the remake is very good in many aspects and im really happy about it,but ultimately when we have the original to compare it to there's just some things that couldn't be replicated like it was in our beloved og silent hill 2
To me the OG is way-better due to it's narrative direction and characterization. James' character was designed to be emotionally stunted and unhinged but could be easily misinterpreted as acting goofy, until we start to witness him jumping down holes like crazy and realize what he did to Mary in the first place. James here in remake is trying to act like what a normal guy who lost his wife would generally do. He sounds sad and self-conscious, hesitates before jumping down holes or sticking his arms into them. But this direction ultimately doesn't tie well into the final reveal. SH2 is mostly about revealing James' subconscious desire to be punished for the sins he committed, making him act all self-conscious and suddenly remembering what he had done in the end fails to capture the character's denial state of mind, rendering the impact of the reveal cheap. New Maria's problem was that trying to redo her lines in a "this is how normal humans talk" way ignores the fact that her character as a whole is a archetypical femme fatale whose sole purpose was to torment James psychologically.
and also in the og one they know where to stop after a line/ the remake just continues theres no stopping in line making it lack of emphasis and each sentences seems so dull, Maria's line in remake is so lack of emotion and sounds so forceful in the og her va's voice goes up and down the remake one is just yeah dullllll, but they did add more lines and jokes tho appreciate that
To be fair, nothing will ever top the OG for old fans. It was unique for its time and it's impossible to do that again in a remake. You gotta learn to love the remake for what it is and not be too critical.
@@salazar556 I was on the sympathetic side rooting for Bloober when the majority of gamers were trashing this project, until story trailer came out and fans praising the remake starts coming up with hilarious takes such as “ there is no such thing as censorship in Silent hill 2 remake because there’s nothing sexual about it” and started targeting fair criticism as delusional nitpicks. Endless compromises give developers more excuse to bring inferior products to the table.
@@salazar556 Take the infamous jail scene for example, they could have easily go on a 1:1 recreation repeating all the dialogue beat regarding Maria but they chose to suspiciously remove elements that made her appear sinister and inhuman in the first place. Considering DEI involvement I really don’t think they dropped the ball accidentally. Same for pulsating holes re-contextualized in industrial landscape, same for pyramid head’s impactful scenes missing.
I prefer the new ones for most of these except Maria. Salome R. Gunnarsdottir did a good job as Mary, but her portrayal of Maria was a bit too reserved when compared to the original. Still good, but it's like she didn't go far enough and is using her "Mary" voice for Maria.
@@joshgroban5291Each to their own. I really like Angela's voice and gotta say, I got emotional after the boss with abstract daddy. I really felt for her because I know that the shit she went through is something real, something that people still go through and there's nobody for them.
@@muundus7 learn how to be humble buddy, i already finished and guess what, i'm capable of critical thought and state what i don't like with the remake. such as mary/maria. I guess you are gay that's why you like flat performances.
@@xeox4280 I do actually, more than you do. Maria and Laura are both born froma wish and james was horrified of mary at the point he created maria to fullfil his sexual desires. You guys are all deluded.
The OG was created with a certain frame of reference that is probably lost on a lot of players today. It was probably a smart move to be a bit more conventional considering that going niche is no longer an option for big name games. However, it's true that some of the original intent was lost in translation. Jeremy Blaustein gave us the phenominal MGS and even his work on Snatcher was unparalelled at the time. For SH2 he was actually involved at the conceptual level, wrote the script, and directed the voicecast. He even turned down MGS2 because he didn't think he would have time to do it justice (I'm simplifying a bit here).
A fan of the series is here) As a fan of the series, who went through all parts of the game inside and out, and who especially liked the 2nd part for its special atmosphere, as such a fan, I will say that the SH2 Remake turned out to be more gloomy and depressing and serious, which is very good, because now both games, i.e. the original and the remake will have the right to life. The original, to the best of its limited technology, created a unique effect, just as the first part of the game did. Like the famous fog in SH1, which limits the player's visibility, has become the hallmark of the SH, so the inferiority of the PS2 hardware and the limited budget of SH2 have made a little primitive animation and voice acting, sounding like fan dubbing. All this gave rise to the effect that SH2 became somehow, I do not know, mystically cozy or even romantic, as if the author of the game realized his fantasy in a creaky but cozy place. The remake, on the contrary, demonstrated serious work on the mistakes of the original, bringing everything to a serious level of quality. The characters have become more realistic, by their appearance we can say that they are victims of circumstances, and their voice acting and reaction to events are very plausible, as if the actors of the sound worked according to Stanislavsky - literally got used to their roles. In the original, the musical ambient was everywhere, creating some kind of psychedelic atmosphere of the attractiveness of the place (at least for me), in the remake, the entire ambient is positioned so that it focuses the player's attention on a particular place, creating tension and an oppressive atmosphere. In general, the remake turned out to be very good! Let's hope that now we will see remakes of new parts 😋
Nah OG voices all the way for me, their delivery lines are way more better, sharper and shows way more emotional weight compare to the new ones Also Monica Taylor Horgan will always and will be the one true only voice of Maria/Mary, she understood the assignment right away of what Maria and Mary were suppose to be New Maria VA Salome Gunnarsdottir on the other hand (no disrespect to her or anything) but her voice and her deliveries just really lacks punch sadly, it just doesn't have that same impact and emotion unfortunately 😕
I truly agree, Maria/Mary's voice actor in the remake lacks emotion delivering her lines she doesn't have that soft spoken seductive voice that the OG had. Also the letter that Mary reads at the end of the game sound really dull compared to original
I think for some aspect the delivery lines had to be more sharper bc of the lack of technology which could be used for body movement, face movement etc. and the rawness of their voice really added to the haunting atmosphere of the og Also so true! Og Maria/Mary could never be replaced, she’s phenomenal. I wish she could have done the remake too :(
Its a battle between the OG fans and the remake. I never heard of silent hill 2 onwards. I played SH1 and was too tired with the back and forth tasks. 1 month ago i learned that there was SH2 and played it. The voice acting except for James was perfect. They had that 90's accent that you can't hear now in the remake. Anyway i loved the VA on the SH2 OG so much that i searched Maria's voice actor. I learned that all of them weren't even professionals. The letter at the end was read by the OG VA actor first try. And she didn't even know what she was getting into. She got so emotional on one part that she stopped a few seconds because she was crying. No wonder the OG Maria felt more real. The remake sounds like she was rushing her lines and trying to make it realistic but forgot to put emotion on it.
bro the fake emotions in the remake are hilarious. the women just histrionically add sobbing inflections to the vowels like oh my god becomes ohwohwohw-myayayay-gowowowd
@@alyosha3563 the voice acting wasn't bad in the remake. It's just that they try to make it sound so realistic to the point it sounds fake or forced. I can't really point my finger on it but it just lacks emotion. Especially the new Maria. When she read the letter, there was some lines like she was out of breath. She sounds nervous to me, like she was trying to make it sound good. Its hard to explain.
@@carlov5403 it's bad because it sounds fake because it lacks emotion. why even bother prefacing your message with "wasn't bad" when you proceed to describe why it's bad. what you're referring to with the "out of breath" is literally what i'm referring to when i say "the women just histrionically add sobbing inflections." the voice acting is terrible.
Sorry dude, I've played both games and the remake is completely superior in every technical and narrative aspect! Everyone who says otherwise knows it's true but let nostalgia speak for them!
Eddie is the only character in the remake that I liked. He looks traumatized and deeply disturbed. There's no possible way players won't feel bad about killing him... Original Eddie was rather unforgiving and psychotic with a maniacal laughter.
completely agree. james and angela were the most butchered in alot of important scenes, it was my most important gripe with this game.. Eddie's VA nailed it for 95% of the part in this game.
Both James, Angelas, Lauras, and Eddies VAs did a good job. I prefer the original VA for Mary/ Maria because you can hear the changes between characters, the one in the remake doesn’t deliver the emotions as well either. The original for VA for Angela just sounds better to me as well. I didn’t like how they changed Angela’s face in the remake, her features are rounded instead of sharp, she looks too different from the original model and similar to the remake’s Eddie for some reason.
The original had this strangeness to it, almost dreamlike you was always questioning what's real and ehat not. The new ones seemed like they are trying a little to hard to give a realistic performance and it doesn't hit the same
I agree, i do like both games. But the first game has that charm to it which is lost in the new game. And honestly i dont think it’s possible that they could recreate that charm. Either way both games are good in their own way.
Og: David Lynch Remake: Modern Hollywood. I think the remake is more consistent, the original can be borderline goofy sometimes, but on the other hand, the original reaches higher highs, when things get emotional they REALLY get fucking emotional alright. Also, certain parts of the og voice acting wasn't just voice acting, it was real, if you know you know.
Goofy? You mean with Pizza hahha. That's classic survival horror momenta of 90s and 2000s, but they are not usual at all. Most if it is lynchian, and James is confused all that everyone already said bout that, iam tired , but u got what i mean bro is crazy 😅. Remake missed it, but its not bad but definitely not better
I believe that if you cut up the individual lines like this just to highlight them that the originals really hold their own. But in conversation the remake dubs really stand out. The nuances in breathing, cadence, all just dramatically improved in my opinion. And Eddie - much improved as well.
now add to this a fact, that in OG actors didn't record their lines together. They made the scenes, and later on they recorder their lines, that's why it just has this "Lynchian-like" style of delivery. Imagine how much better it could be if the v/a were recorded the way it's done today, if they were able to react to each other acting.
@@rldeathknightwhen she literally is not supposed to be like that... Like she still was caring in og but with flaws and she supposed to be sinister cuz that was the point, weird shit, that shit was playing with James. Here her va in Remake couldnt replicate that. Some ppl rly need to educate themselves , where is my bros
Ya'll are so sentimental and nostalgic over the OG that you breeze right over how heart wrenching Gianna Kiehl's performance in here. Every scene she's in gives me chills or fills my eyes with tears. Its a shame you let yourself sit in the past so hard that you smack talk these stellar performances that bring the game to life in the modern era.
I think the OG VA were fine by the 2001 standards but Marias VA was on another level. Remake is fine but OG legit killed it at every scene she appeared in.
The OG is untouchable but the new vas are great for the most part. The Angela va is great with the emotions but sounds a bit too... Congested?? It's kinda weird
Honestly not bad except for Angela, I thought the performance was genuinely poor. It could just be that Donna Burke nailed it so hard in the OG, but there's no sense of unsettled-speech or trauma or exhaustion in the remake. The way Angela speaks in the OG is so tired and broken, yet full of bitterness, confusion, etc. It's very specific and I find the remake almost lacks *any* emotion in her voice. Sounds like a woman reading off a script imo. Eddie & Laura were significantly better, though as a consequence Eddie seems a bit less... unsettling? The weird, stilted character of the OG was going to be lost in the remake regardless, but they did a good job overall.
When you take on the task of remaking an iconic masterpiece, you'd better expect criticism. IMO, the original doesn't need replacing and I would have much preferred a one to one remaster, like what Konami are doing with Metal Gear Solid 3. Silent Hill 1 would have benefited from a remake more, its a classic but its age really shows now.
I love how Guy Cihi is basically real life James Sunderland, even after many years he looks exactly like James. Nothing against the new actor in the remake, but you can't replace Guy Cihi because James was basically created around him in everything. And Guy's performance is probably the most realistic piece of voice acting ever, it doesn't even feel like acting, James really sounds like a person.
Yeah pretty much. Guy Cihi is one of those lightning in a bottle casting choices that feels incredibly difficult to replicate because of how on point he was able to capture James' character and his struggles. Luke Roberts performance for as good as he was on the surface doesn't quite nail the character in comparison. He sounds flatter and more Hollywood-like in terms of performance to the point where it makes Remake James sound like a completely different character.
Makes me really sad to see people hating on the original. Saying we’re blinded by “nostalgia”. (Some of us were small or not even born back then, so I’m a bit confused on how it’s nostalgia?) The original was supposed to be dreamlike and campy. Uncanny. If you watched any Lynch works, especially Twin Peaks (which inspired SH) you would understand. I really loved how James comes across as apathetic and confused in the original. And nothing can top Mary’s VA. I think the remake is great, it will never touch the original, of course. I’m very happy Bloober was receptive to feedback. I do think this voice acting is leagues better than the HD release. I recommend checking out the original if you have time. The fan made HD upscale project is wonderful. If it’s not for you, I understand. I just hope you’ll at least appreciate it.
maybe the objectively bad acting worked given the atmosphere and the limitations of hardware at the time (CRT screens at minimum), but it wasn't intentional. If it was, Mary wouldn't have been such a standout. SH2 had a lot of subtlety in design and direction but given the information we have about production (there was little direction at least in some scenes, according to James's actor), I very much doubt it extended to the amateur actor's performance
It’s because most of the people shown liking the original do their absolute best to crap all over the remake. They glorify so many aspects regardless of if they aged poorly. I saw a guy say the original gameplay was objectively better than the remake. It’s like, really? I understand liking the atmosphere and vibe of the OG, I really do. But I feel people have all these interpretations of how a remake should go that it ultimately is just them wanting the exact same game. They don’t know the difference between a remake and a remaster and it shows. I think you can have a special place for both versions because they are telling their own version of the same story. That’s the magic of what a remake is.
It’s literally all these new bandwagon fans riding so hard for the remake and dogpiling any criticism of it at all. Every remake absolutely nukes any subtle aesthetic and feeling the original had by trying too hard to be realistic and effortless. We don’t need any more remakes FFS stop letting these companies get away with lazy cash grabs
O original tem uma característica bem radionovela, ou seja, você não consegue ver os atores, mas apenas pode ouvir a entonação das vozes, por isso elas tem uma carga emocional mais elevada. O original é cinematográfico e foi feito para ser dessa forma. É de gosto pessoal a preferência. Muitas das críticas são feitas por fãs com uma carga nostálgica muito alta que endeusam o jogo original como se fosse a maior maravilha já feita por mãos humanas quando muitas das coisas lá presentes, provavelmente foram feitas sem querer, como sempre ocorrem nessas produções. Seja por orçamento ou prazos apertados. Eu até li um comentário daqui mesmo em que o cara comparava o James dizendo que o do jogo original parecia mais "chad" e o do remake parecia um cara mais "chorão e triste". Aparentemente ele estava querendo dizer que o do original era melhor que o do remake, mas falhou miseravelmente. Não consigo imaginar que a intenção dos criadores era deixar o James mais "chad" e acho que o aspecto mais triste é mais condizente com o personagem. Mas essa foi a impressão que o fã teve do James no original o que me leva a crer que muita coisa não é intencional. Isso para mim só demonstra que os fãs encontram aquilo que desejam encontrar dentro da obra e nada mais.
Remake James sound really deep, Mature and depressed Unlike og James who always look confused and have no idea what he's doing But guess what Og James is the original James And remake James was a clone😂
Salóme Gunnarsdóttir played her role phenomenally! Incredibly felt the character! In general, everyone played brilliantly, I will also note the actress playing Laura, she will also play Laura in the upcoming film!
For my personal preference James - Both of them are pretty good, though OG appearance can be more deceiving Maria/Mary : OG by a mile, it's just too hard to beat OG VA for this one Angela : OG as well, while I not say OG VA casting is perfect, however Remake VA deliverance is just too bland, especially her last scene in the game Eddie : This one I have to say Remake is better, his characterization deliverance is so perfect for how dangerous he is and send a chill into my spine Laura : Both are them are fine, but I think OG is acting more like a weird little brat and Remake one seem more like normal kid
The OG va is objectively better. The new James VA tries hard to be melodramatic, but that's entirely NOT the point of James, not even close. The slight campiness and cluelesness of the original James is a fundamental part of the story. The other VAs in the remake are just bad regardless of what we compare them to.
Ive played it first time in may 2024 and the og just does not want to let me go. The way angela says Lost Maria says im not your mary Or how james says everything.
The voice acting quality in the Remake ranges from being flat and generic to being Bland to being melodramatic just for the sake of it sometimes. It's distractingly inconsistent.
The new voices actors all did a great job, all except for Maria. The actress sounds like she's reading a script half the time and has zero range. Not only that, but the OG Maria was gorgeous, the way her eyes and mouth looked was magnetizing. The new Maria just looks like plain Jane.
Donna Burke who is the singer of Metal Gear Solid 3, Peace Walker and The Phantom Pain main themes! I didn't know she worked on the original Silent Hill 2. Good surprise!
She did not sing Snake Eater, lol. That's Cynthia Harrell. But she did also voice the iDroid narrator in MGSV that tells you when storms are coming, etc.
New Maria's voice fits perfectly for the next windows' cortana voice. What they've done to the character, dude... It made me cry way more than Mary's letter.
Thanks for that side to side comparison. It just shows how voice direction in remake made deliveries flat, lacking something. To be honest I like how much Eddie was improved, Laura is bearable, but I just can't stand James and especially Maria and Angela. James supposed to feel.. off, like mentally distanced due to his suppressed guilt and it was done on purpose for the final reveal. He was so obsessed with Mary that he just didn't care about anything, nor anyone. When he meets Eddie, it's clear that something off is wrong with him, yet James seems to don't see it, he almost leave Maria behind and his reaction to see her again is mistaking her - again - for Mary and being disappointed it's her ("Oh. it's You, Maria. Anyway I'm [...]" - sells it all). On the other hand while in original Maria is just going back and forth 180' from being cold, manipulative, seductive to this kind, caring, empathetic Mary impressions, in remake she seems to be more emotionless, machine-like, less expressive. Angela had this often has this outburst of anger, irritation, desperation, but when she goes from being emotionally disconnected, depressed to angry - it's fluent. In remake her outburst are - to some degree - like laughable, at least to me. At one moment she is mentally broken, and seconds after she turns into "boss girl". Is voice acting bad? No, it's definitely better than HD collection, but next to OG it feels lackluster and I'd say it's not actors faul, it's voice acting direction issue.
My only problem with the new va casting is only Maria, the og one gives such an etherial creature ( cause she’s not a real human being she’s literally born from a wish ) , i miss the psychotic aspect of her character, the new maria va only gives u seductive vibes like she want to become james’s secret mistress fr, new maria comes in as a more mentally stable person especially in the prison scene unlike og maria with the iconic line “ I’m not your mary. “
For me : • James OG = James Remake • Angela OG > Angela Remake • Eddie OG < Eddie Remake • Laura OG < Laura Remake • Mary/Maria OG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary/Maria Remake
James is good, Laura is fine and Eddie is actually way better than the original, at least in the scene showcased here. But Angela is *ss and Mary/Maria is just meh...
I'm in the camp Of the old voice acting Like the old voice acting Because it's not really acting at all You're doing your best sound as natural as possible And the old voice acting The first director wanted it that way In the original silent Hill He wanted it to sound natural So that's where the original voice acting Sounds the way it does But in the remake It is just acting And I think Fans Tell that I know I could
Yes they're trying too hard and i really notice this with Angela because in the original her lines are monotonous but in the new one she is always sobbing and that's not even realistic for traumatised people
Exactly, one of the big things that made the silent hill characters so awesome is how real they felt, james was a broken man that was tired of life and numb, his original voice actor nails that perfectly, he's not some hollywood actor that's pretending to be sad
Agela especially. Maria is also so bad how did they mess up her most important scene twice? She's supposed to sound like two different people at the same time which is what is confusing James.
Luke Roberts was born to be James Sunderland, he sounds so tired and confused, he's damn convincing. And props to Salome too, she sounds more seductive and treacherous, I had a bad feeling about Maria from the beggining.
I really have to admit, they did a really good job on the voices. But nothing will ever beat the original. Although some scenes in the remake are way more explicit than they were in the original like the room with the abstract daddy boss fight. Due to the much higher detail you can now clearly see what Thomas Orosco did to his daughter. In the original the shapes and forms were much more vague and I think this was also intentional. Japanese horror is way more sinister and physic than the typical western horror like in Silent Hill Homecoming.
I didn't discover the Silent Hill games until a few years ago so I don't have the deep connection to the original cast that a lot of people have. I adore the performances on the remake cast! To, they are perfect. Angela's gut wrenching sobs and the way she flips between fearful and deep depression, Eddie's slow loss of empathy, Laura's disdainful amusement towards James, Maria's seductiveness, Mary's exhaustion, and James being so repressed and stoic unless he's bashing a monster's head in are just amazing!
I think we can all agree that these are so much better than the HD collection redubs. It has big named voice actors but somehow sounds awful in near every line.
Voice acting sounds good in remake in general. The only thing, female characters....how do I put it....sounds too...I don't know, movie-like. The point is, original female VAs sound more...mmm...specific I guess, new one sounds like any female in any other movie you can watch nowadays. And Maria....she really sounds like a boss while she's supposed to be teasing and playful like the original.
The whole remake cast are awesome, I give half of them a 9/10 and the rest 10/10. the remake voice of James Sunderland did a awesome job on the remake. everybody on the remake did a good job on the remake. I hope more remakes of Silent Hill are coming in the future.
Luke has a deeper cadence to his voice with slight octave jumps, Guy sounds very nasely constantly. The deeper voice conveys a inner sadness better, imo. Also I love Angela’s new voice, it has a tomboy-raspy tone that I think fits the character better given her trauma
I know it’s not true but it’s crazy to me that anyone who played the original especially years ago would think these are an improvement and isn’t just new to the series. Different strokes I guess.
I played the OG when it was new. I was 19 years old. The Silent Hill Series is my favorite game series of all time, I’ve replayed them all multiple times except the ones not available to me. SH2 is my favorite game of all time. I’ve beat it more times than I can count. But these new voice actors are good. Are they replacing the OGs? No. But this remake is fantastic.
Love both the original and the remake unconditionally. One thing Bloober did right is that they didn'tmake the original obsolete - they go hand in hand. Experiencing Silent Hill 2 would feel so much more complete playing both games, and that's how I felt like playing the remake. They just happen to be vastly different interpretations of the same story.
Angela is only 19 so I prefer her new voice. Her original voice is good but she sounds older and not like a depressed young woman who’s battling her fears.
I agree. That's why I like her new appearance as well. In the OG, I thought she was closer to James age. I was shocked when I found out how young she was.
If you watch the the making of silent hill they specifically chose to make her seem older than she actually is. They wanted her character to make you uncomfortable in that way. Sounding depressed isn't the point. She's unstable and dangerous she's like a bomb that could go off at any time but you don't know when.
"I got a game, the name on the cover said Silent Hill 2, my favourite game's name. It's ridiculous! Couldn't possibly be true, that's what I keep telling myself... A Ps5 can't play a Ps2 game. My favourite game died with my damn Ps2, 3 years ago."
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3 console generations ago
Bro I can't believie it's actually here. I'm waiting for the weekend to start playing on my PS5. I played the first minutes and I cried a lot.
3 generations ago
lmao
Guy always sounded like he was in a dreamlike state, kind of out of it. It's unnatural sounding, but kinda works given the situation. Luke on the other hand adds this nuanced exhaustion mixed with muted confusion that totally feels like a man drifting through life, also almost in a dreamlike state but a much more realistic one. I really like his more complex performance.
Que análise incrível.
0:42 the way Luke Roberts says "ridiculous" is so perfect
100% agreed. I got goosebumps that moment
He's a better actor.
@@norijean3279 He’s AN actor.
@@Gmanawesomeness haha nice xD Some might forget Guy isn't an actor. Atleast not at the point in time the OG's made.
@@GmanawesomenessYou can like the remake without shitting on the original. Guy Cihi did a great job.
0:00 - James Sunderland
0:57 - Maria
1:47 - Angela Orosco
2:45 - Laura
3:44 - Mary Shepherd-Sunderland
4:35 - Eddie Dombrowski
Bloober team done pretty good job on Eddie
They make him like you want to help him but as the story goes you feel like don't want to go near him and he's obviously dangerous if you didn't know how to approach him
This makes Eddie more dangerous and make his character to be taken seriously
@@ardiansyahindiechannel3166 the fight with him in the original is broken. I finished the the game last night and killed him so quick just holding R2 and X with the metal pipe
@@Lordicus21 yeah the first fight is easy
Just spam steel pipe at him
But the second fight is hard because Eddie is unpredictable
In normal it would take a 6 or more shotgun shot to kill him
But in hard difficult Eddie is hard to defeat he often move unpredictable
This is the hard part for me to get 10 star run in the og
Beside the boat sequence
The fight with him in the ramek is short the orgianl two times fight
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 I finished the fight with him on the Remake last night, not short at all. Is also splitted into two parts, and took way more time. Angela's Father also is waaay more difficult and have a lot of sessions before finishing him
Yes. In original game he scared me the first time I had seen him - something in him was really creepy. But in remake he truly look like someone you wanna help, he doesn't look evil or crazy. That's why his transfirmation is soooo good, you can really see his slow changes and he is not just a nice and funny fat guy
Nothing beat OG Mary saying to James: “You made me… Happy”
Even a decade after first playing the game, and going through it countless times, the original letter reading was able to bring me to tears in the right headspace. I think the remake is great albeit very different, but the biggest crime imo was Maria and Mary’s portrayal. I’m not sure if the new actress is weak or if it’s more a matter of the direction she was given, but it really flubs some of the MOST important parts of the story, the prison cell, the hospital basement, the letter etc. The letter reading just doesn’t even come close
crazy boomers take, new Mary is fine
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 “fine” lol you said nothing at all
@@Gmanawesomeness truth hurts boomer
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 lmao you’re still not making a single point beyond outing yourself as an iPad baby with zero critical thinking skills nor capacity for nuance or discussion. I’m 24.
All of theme are debatable which one is better but for Mary/Maria is without doubt is the og. That letter in the end especially is just phenomenal.
Angela new voice is awful, she sounds bored out of her mind without emotion, look side by side the cemetary scene
@@diogopereira1475you have zero idea what severe, long term emotional, physical and sexual abuse can do to a person.
@@troyb4533 angela been through that and thats EXACTLY why in the remake she doesnt speak like someone that has, she speaks like a bored and spoiled teenager, and as i mentioned, the cemetary scene best shows that
Apparently it can cause them to be a terrible actor?
@@troyb4533you miss the point that she also has anger issues like the original. She committed homicide because she finally snapped. The original shows both sides of Angela while the remake just has her at the depressed monotone victim who didn't commit murder sound.
They missed that part of her anger and suspicion of men entirely.
Fun fact: Evie Templeton is playing Laura in the upcoming movie too.
Wait, what? There’s a movie coming out? Oh man, please let it not be terrible…
@@francisco646 It's from the director who did the first SH and it will closely follow SH2 story. So I'm sure it'll be amazing. Can't wait. It's been my most anticipated movie ever since it was announced.
So, they're aging Laura up to a teenager?
'course that shouldn't come as a shock. The guy playing James looks nothing like his game counterpart; looking more like Jacob from Jacob's Ladder, instead.
@@zukuu Have you seen his first SH movie? He didn't closely follow SH1's story. What makes you think it'll be any different with his SH2 film?
@@madamefluffy4788 Yeah, it's one of my favorite horror movies. SH was just based on the IP itself, but they announced the new movie will portray the story of the second game.
Luke Roberts was incredible as James. Eddies voice actor was incredible, and Angela’s voice actor was incredible.
My only criticism is with the actor for Maria. She was good, but in multiple scenes she did not hit the mark. Such as the jail cell scene, and the reading of the letter at the end. She didn’t put enough emotion into her performance. In the jail cell scene, she failed to capture that subtle shift between Mary and Maria.
I honestly like the new Maria very much. Don’t get me wrong, I love the original one, but she somewhat felt a little bit in-the-face to me. I don’t know how to explain. She didn’t sound like a normal person, in an “I would immediately distrust a woman who behaved and spoke to me like this” way. New Maria may sound a bit more “plain” or “reserved”, in a sense, but I feel she sounds more believable as a normal (or, well, normal-passing) girl. I think the old VA was great for an early 2000s game, but it might sound very uncanny (and not in a good way) in a game with such realistic graphics. To me, a more naturalistic and subtle voice acting was the sensible approach in this Remake.
No one could have topped the original letter. It's the best voice acting performance in the history of video games.
@@phillystevesteak6982no offense but u riding that imaginary meat
@@Francesc1983 that's kinda the point bro. It's dream logic not reality and maria is a part of that dream her not coming across as natural or real is the point.
@@samuraibear5102 Yes, that was the point of the original one, bro. And the point of the remake is trying to be more realistic. And in my oppinion, of which everyone has their own, it works better in this instance due to the more realistic graphics. If I saw seemingly real people speaking as the characters did in the original game, it would just seem to be bad acting.
The remakes are good - but I highly prefer OG Maria and Angela.
Laura’s actress NAILED it in the remake. Eddie’s actor did too.
Especially the Angela last scene
Maria and Angela original voice actresses are one of the best ever. Very professional ones.
nah the new Maria and Angela killed it
Nothing will come close to the original Maria
agree, OG Maria is so devilishly flirtatious and the way OG Angela flips a switch so unhinged
The painful cries Lukes' James makes when he physically beats those monsters are so guttural. Its like he really, *really* hates physically harming them.
Totally with you until the last sentence, to me it comes across more as cries of desperation, an average unskilled man just fighting for his life. Like they can even sound pathetic every once in a while, which is perfect and exactly how it should have been done. Great addition to the game imo
I love how his voice breaks when he gets hit too, he's sick of it all and so tired. like you can feel how he wants to get it over with and see Mary, it's the only thing he cares about.
Personally, I see him as desperate to kill them. Since they represent everything he's suppressing. Maybe he isn't enjoying it but he really really wants them dead.
for me it is the opposite, he is enjoying hurting those manifestations.
James - OG Va has a special place in my heart. Remake VA is good.
Maria / Mary - OG is many times better.
Angela - I like both, though I lean towards Remake VA.
Laura - Remake VA wins here.
Eddie - Holy! REMAKE VA is sooooo good and surpasses original VA.
Im pretty much with you here.
Spot on, although I lean towards OG Angela in instances like the staircase scene
I agree with you on pretty much everything, but although James OG voice has this haunting aura to it that makes it great, I think the remake one is fantastic. The actor did a phenomenal job on the stuttering and confusing tone on James’ voice, and he made it sound so natural too. You could really feel what the character was going through just by his voice
The Remake is incredible, but the Original is unforgettable ❤
the remake is trash, the og is the only option
@@Malik187-ct8pt looks like someone’s mom said no the V-bucks card they wanted
@@Malik187-ct8pt sure bud
@@Malik187-ct8pt Maybe for you
@@Malik187-ct8pt boomer take
I didn’t fully appreciate how phenomenal Monica Taylor Horgan’s performance is until this video!
Could've at least brought her back. I'm fine with the rest of the new cast though.
@@imulan same, its not that the new Maria is bad but Monica was just unbelievable
I always thought she was the best actor/actress from the original Silent Hill 2.
I didn't knew Donna Burke voiced Angela in the original.. nobody really talks about her voice acting career
She and Gianna did a fantastic job. Both of them gut wrenching.
Even if she doesn't have a long acting career (because she's a bussiness woman after all) Donna got an incredible talent for voice acting.
Her performance as Claudia in SH3 is one of the best I've hear in any videogame ever, and that's saying a lot considering she always plays Angela perfectly.
@@quiver5756 yeah. I really liked her performance as Claudia too (she's doing her best Tilda Swinton mimic) she is a great singer but also a underrated voice actress. it's a shame her voice acting career wasn't long, because there was potential
@@quiver5756She was great as Claudia, probably my favorite villain from the Silent Hill series.
Yes, it's quite talked about. Or at least it was, back then. Her voicing Angela in OG SH2 and Claudia in SH3 are quite well-known facts
luke roberts voice acting for james is konami's apology for whatever redubbing they did for the HD collection
Maria and Mary og voice's is just better
The og James voice legit makes me believe he's a good guy.
Then that's a problem. Because James isn't meant to be a good guy. He's meant to be seen as morally ambiguous.
Nah u missed the point og james sounds normal just like depressed people while remake is too on the nose about his depression@@conorcahill5422
@@conorcahill5422 Anyone who has played OG SH2 know what James had done to Mary; however, when you first start the game, you're not supposed to think there's something up with James - you're just supposed to see him as an average man searching a town for his wife who he believes had died years ago. He only becomes morally ambiguous as the game progresses and you find clues pointing to James' dark actions.
It's a problem if you go into the game and you (as a possible new player) know right off the bat he's done something. Hell, it's the reason why so many people were pissed with the initial teaser - with James shaking/sweating profusely as he looked at himself in the mirror at the very start of the game.
@@conorcahill5422 it was kind of the point to not make you suspect of james in the beginning, it added more shock value once you found out
@@conorcahill5422 It is not. It is what he suppose to sound like. You shouldn't suspect him afterall.
Salome's Maria sounded colder and more aloof than Monica's. I think she'd crush it as Claudia, she even looks like her a bit.
You should've compared Eddie's puking noises, that's what landed David the role in the original, lol.
I love the OG James and Mary voice
I had to laugh a couple of times because especially james sounds goofy in some moments in the OG
The original maria is just wow!
The new one is way better
@@MrJackrussell12 good joke
The fever dream like quality during the conversations feels absent in the remake. I do give the team big credit for trying to stay extremely faithful to the source material though. They really tried to do it right, and I appreciate that. I feel like some of the line delivery just misses the mark though. One scene in particular that always gets me worked up, is when James is explaining to Angela, that the person he’s looking for is his dead wife, and he says (I don’t know why I’m looking for her). The delivery of that line and the sadness in his voice was just so powerful, and really hits you in the gut. So many of the small emotional moments are slightly less impactful in the remake. It’s okay though, because I never expected them to perfectly replicate it. Silent Hill 2 is a very special case where it’s hard to replicate the original intention behind those scenes.
Yeah, I guess what remake has issue is was overall game directions and voice acting direction. When OG has this paranoid nightmare like atmosphere, remake's feels more like a bad ream.
If by fever dream you mean reality I see everyday in my life then yes. They talk like typical 2024 college students, not someone from the 90s
very much agreed with everything! the ogs delivery is sonething special, with everything sounding uncanny valley like. they dont talk like normal people, they don't seem in touch with reality, they're can switch from emotional to monotone in a second, and it just overall adds to the experience. but I do think this was a one time only thing. team silent was a pretty small team and they got voice actors who weren't as experienced as others. that's not to say they didn't do a great job and all the work they put into their characters isn't noticeable, but I think the fact most of them seem inexperienced and awkward in their delivery just adds to the experience. in any other game it'd probably be taken as "oh, old gane with weird voice acting". but in this case it works very much in silent hills favor, although it'd be very hard to replicate
this time, they had the budget to hire more experienced voice actors. and you can tell they tried! they're absolutely not bad, Eddie's voice actor especially was really really good imo. but they know how to talk natural, like a human with emotions, as if it was really them in that situation. instead of people who honestly don't seem as skilled at talking naturally when a camera is on them
ultimately I think the remake is very good in many aspects and im really happy about it,but ultimately when we have the original to compare it to there's just some things that couldn't be replicated like it was in our beloved og silent hill 2
The uncanny feeling is still there. You're letting your nostalgia blind you.
@@Progger11🙄
Monica as Maria/Mary dont have comparison , the og cast is awsome
IKR. 😁
To me the OG is way-better due to it's narrative direction and characterization.
James' character was designed to be emotionally stunted and unhinged but could be easily misinterpreted as acting goofy, until we start to witness him jumping down holes like crazy and realize what he did to Mary in the first place.
James here in remake is trying to act like what a normal guy who lost his wife would generally do. He sounds sad and self-conscious, hesitates before jumping down holes or sticking his arms into them.
But this direction ultimately doesn't tie well into the final reveal. SH2 is mostly about revealing James' subconscious desire to be punished for the sins he committed, making him act all self-conscious and suddenly remembering what he had done in the end fails to capture the character's denial state of mind, rendering the impact of the reveal cheap.
New Maria's problem was that trying to redo her lines in a "this is how normal humans talk" way ignores the fact that her character as a whole is a archetypical femme fatale whose sole purpose was to torment James psychologically.
and also in the og one they know where to stop after a line/ the remake just continues theres no stopping in line making it lack of emphasis and each sentences seems so dull, Maria's line in remake is so lack of emotion and sounds so forceful in the og her va's voice goes up and down the remake one is just yeah dullllll, but they did add more lines and jokes tho appreciate that
To be fair, nothing will ever top the OG for old fans. It was unique for its time and it's impossible to do that again in a remake. You gotta learn to love the remake for what it is and not be too critical.
@@salazar556 I was on the sympathetic side rooting for Bloober when the majority of gamers were trashing this project, until story trailer came out and fans praising the remake starts coming up with hilarious takes such as “ there is no such thing as censorship in Silent hill 2 remake because there’s nothing sexual about it” and started targeting fair criticism as delusional nitpicks. Endless compromises give developers more excuse to bring inferior products to the table.
90% of remake is better. 10% OG is better.
@@salazar556 Take the infamous jail scene for example, they could have easily go on a 1:1 recreation repeating all the dialogue beat regarding Maria but they chose to suspiciously remove elements that made her appear sinister and inhuman in the first place. Considering DEI involvement I really don’t think they dropped the ball accidentally. Same for pulsating holes re-contextualized in industrial landscape, same for pyramid head’s impactful scenes missing.
I prefer the new ones for most of these except Maria. Salome R. Gunnarsdottir did a good job as Mary, but her portrayal of Maria was a bit too reserved when compared to the original. Still good, but it's like she didn't go far enough and is using her "Mary" voice for Maria.
Her mary voice feels more softer in the remake
Honestly so far the only one I dislike is Angela's. It's not bad, it just misses the mark for me.
It REALLY hurts that scene where she's supposed to bounce back and forth between the personas too
@@joshgroban5291Each to their own. I really like Angela's voice and gotta say, I got emotional after the boss with abstract daddy. I really felt for her because I know that the shit she went through is something real, something that people still go through and there's nobody for them.
The only one I liked in the remake was Maria
2:00 bruh Donna burke did not just sang heavens divide and sins of the father in metal gear? She also voiced angela???
I’m not sure if she sings “you’re not here” on the SH3 soundtrack but she does sing “I want love” too
@@ronnieperez8519Mary Elizabeth McGlynn sang those songs. She also voiced Maria/Mary in the Silent Hill 2 HD collection
She also voiced Claudia in Silent Hill 3
She also did the English announcements on the bullet trains in Japan
And she also voiced Claudia Wolf in SH3
Luke's acting is so on point it's crazy. His voice is so dense in pure sadness, simply perfect.
james was never sad actually he wanted to get rid of mary.
@@AvalancheGameArt Play the game buddy
@@muundus7 learn how to be humble buddy, i already finished and guess what, i'm capable of critical thought and state what i don't like with the remake. such as mary/maria. I guess you are gay that's why you like flat performances.
@@AvalancheGameArt thats complete bs you dont understand the story at all
@@xeox4280 I do actually, more than you do.
Maria and Laura are both born froma wish and james was horrified of mary at the point he created maria to fullfil his sexual desires. You guys are all deluded.
The OG was created with a certain frame of reference that is probably lost on a lot of players today. It was probably a smart move to be a bit more conventional considering that going niche is no longer an option for big name games. However, it's true that some of the original intent was lost in translation. Jeremy Blaustein gave us the phenominal MGS and even his work on Snatcher was unparalelled at the time. For SH2 he was actually involved at the conceptual level, wrote the script, and directed the voicecast. He even turned down MGS2 because he didn't think he would have time to do it justice (I'm simplifying a bit here).
A fan of the series is here)
As a fan of the series, who went through all parts of the game inside and out, and who especially liked the 2nd part for its special atmosphere, as such a fan, I will say that the SH2 Remake turned out to be more gloomy and depressing and serious, which is very good, because now both games, i.e. the original and the remake will have the right to life.
The original, to the best of its limited technology, created a unique effect, just as the first part of the game did. Like the famous fog in SH1, which limits the player's visibility, has become the hallmark of the SH, so the inferiority of the PS2 hardware and the limited budget of SH2 have made a little primitive animation and voice acting, sounding like fan dubbing. All this gave rise to the effect that SH2 became somehow, I do not know, mystically cozy or even romantic, as if the author of the game realized his fantasy in a creaky but cozy place.
The remake, on the contrary, demonstrated serious work on the mistakes of the original, bringing everything to a serious level of quality. The characters have become more realistic, by their appearance we can say that they are victims of circumstances, and their voice acting and reaction to events are very plausible, as if the actors of the sound worked according to Stanislavsky - literally got used to their roles.
In the original, the musical ambient was everywhere, creating some kind of psychedelic atmosphere of the attractiveness of the place (at least for me), in the remake, the entire ambient is positioned so that it focuses the player's attention on a particular place, creating tension and an oppressive atmosphere.
In general, the remake turned out to be very good! Let's hope that now we will see remakes of new parts 😋
Nah OG voices all the way for me, their delivery lines are way more better, sharper and shows way more emotional weight compare to the new ones
Also Monica Taylor Horgan will always and will be the one true only voice of Maria/Mary, she understood the assignment right away of what Maria and Mary were suppose to be
New Maria VA Salome Gunnarsdottir on the other hand (no disrespect to her or anything) but her voice and her deliveries just really lacks punch sadly, it just doesn't have that same impact and emotion unfortunately 😕
I truly agree, Maria/Mary's voice actor in the remake lacks emotion delivering her lines she doesn't have that soft spoken seductive voice that the OG had. Also the letter that Mary reads at the end of the game sound really dull compared to original
the new ones its like a phony act
@@marco1601it’s the opposite
I think for some aspect the delivery lines had to be more sharper bc of the lack of technology which could be used for body movement, face movement etc. and the rawness of their voice really added to the haunting atmosphere of the og
Also so true! Og Maria/Mary could never be replaced, she’s phenomenal. I wish she could have done the remake too :(
Eddie's a scary dude.. both voice actors did great. Chilling character.
Its a battle between the OG fans and the remake. I never heard of silent hill 2 onwards. I played SH1 and was too tired with the back and forth tasks.
1 month ago i learned that there was SH2 and played it. The voice acting except for James was perfect. They had that 90's accent that you can't hear now in the remake. Anyway i loved the VA on the SH2 OG so much that i searched Maria's voice actor. I learned that all of them weren't even professionals. The letter at the end was read by the OG VA actor first try. And she didn't even know what she was getting into. She got so emotional on one part that she stopped a few seconds because she was crying. No wonder the OG Maria felt more real. The remake sounds like she was rushing her lines and trying to make it realistic but forgot to put emotion on it.
bro the fake emotions in the remake are hilarious. the women just histrionically add sobbing inflections to the vowels like oh my god becomes ohwohwohw-myayayay-gowowowd
@@alyosha3563 the voice acting wasn't bad in the remake. It's just that they try to make it sound so realistic to the point it sounds fake or forced. I can't really point my finger on it but it just lacks emotion. Especially the new Maria. When she read the letter, there was some lines like she was out of breath. She sounds nervous to me, like she was trying to make it sound good. Its hard to explain.
@@carlov5403 it's bad because it sounds fake because it lacks emotion. why even bother prefacing your message with "wasn't bad" when you proceed to describe why it's bad. what you're referring to with the "out of breath" is literally what i'm referring to when i say "the women just histrionically add sobbing inflections." the voice acting is terrible.
james was voiced amazingly on purpopes like that bruh, at the end when talking to Mary he seems more live on i would say but that the point
Sorry dude, I've played both games and the remake is completely superior in every technical and narrative aspect! Everyone who says otherwise knows it's true but let nostalgia speak for them!
Eddie is the only character in the remake that I liked. He looks traumatized and deeply disturbed. There's no possible way players won't feel bad about killing him... Original Eddie was rather unforgiving and psychotic with a maniacal laughter.
Yeah eddy was my was the only one who seems an improvement.
@@bradfin12 What about Angela? She seemed way more distressed, the acting is better over all in the remake.
completely agree. james and angela were the most butchered in alot of important scenes, it was my most important gripe with this game.. Eddie's VA nailed it for 95% of the part in this game.
@@Kingclaws James and Angela? James’ performance is totally different, but if you want to talk about actually BUTCHERING, bro, Maria
Why does Maria sound so bored and flat?
cos she is
@@alyosha3563 woke era
@@Blade_runner-dh4dw Shut up.
The old one sounds like a caricature sex worker, new one sounds like an actual sex worker
Потому что она мертва и грустит по этому поводу
Both James, Angelas, Lauras, and Eddies VAs did a good job. I prefer the original VA for Mary/ Maria because you can hear the changes between characters, the one in the remake doesn’t deliver the emotions as well either. The original for VA for Angela just sounds better to me as well. I didn’t like how they changed Angela’s face in the remake, her features are rounded instead of sharp, she looks too different from the original model and similar to the remake’s Eddie for some reason.
you can see the reason for the changes in the video. She looks like her new actress.
The original had this strangeness to it, almost dreamlike you was always questioning what's real and ehat not. The new ones seemed like they are trying a little to hard to give a realistic performance and it doesn't hit the same
Yeaa it was really weird which added to its charm
I agree, i do like both games. But the first game has that charm to it which is lost in the new game. And honestly i dont think it’s possible that they could recreate that charm. Either way both games are good in their own way.
Loved both versions!
Me too!!
Holy Angela was voiced by Donna Burke like the woman who sings the Metal Gear Solid V theme
Og: David Lynch
Remake: Modern Hollywood.
I think the remake is more consistent, the original can be borderline goofy sometimes, but on the other hand, the original reaches higher highs, when things get emotional they REALLY get fucking emotional alright.
Also, certain parts of the og voice acting wasn't just voice acting, it was real, if you know you know.
mary's letter in the original is better than anything in the remake by a mile
its not that deep lmfao
@@misberave it is
@@anime-cu7sq it literally isnt game is great nostalgia merchants arent
Goofy? You mean with Pizza hahha. That's classic survival horror momenta of 90s and 2000s, but they are not usual at all. Most if it is lynchian, and James is confused all that everyone already said bout that, iam tired , but u got what i mean bro is crazy 😅. Remake missed it, but its not bad but definitely not better
I believe that if you cut up the individual lines like this just to highlight them that the originals really hold their own.
But in conversation the remake dubs really stand out. The nuances in breathing, cadence, all just dramatically improved in my opinion.
And Eddie - much improved as well.
A think everyone improved except maria. The new actress is just way to subtle and boring.
now add to this a fact, that in OG actors didn't record their lines together. They made the scenes, and later on they recorder their lines, that's why it just has this "Lynchian-like" style of delivery. Imagine how much better it could be if the v/a were recorded the way it's done today, if they were able to react to each other acting.
@@lxdead5585 calm down boomer, og va was never good
the originals just way better emotion behind the voice acting, which was really apparent with Angela
Idk, i disagree
Donna Burke voiced Angela in the original?? Damn, one more on the pile of things to love about her career.
I'm trying to be positive but Maria in the remake just feels... off...
awful
shes great
she's really good. actually felt like protecting her in this new one. she feels like a real person. she feels warm and comforting to be around
@@rldeathknightyeah idk what people are on about
@@rldeathknightwhen she literally is not supposed to be like that... Like she still was caring in og but with flaws and she supposed to be sinister cuz that was the point, weird shit, that shit was playing with James. Here her va in Remake couldnt replicate that. Some ppl rly need to educate themselves , where is my bros
Ya'll are so sentimental and nostalgic over the OG that you breeze right over how heart wrenching Gianna Kiehl's performance in here. Every scene she's in gives me chills or fills my eyes with tears. Its a shame you let yourself sit in the past so hard that you smack talk these stellar performances that bring the game to life in the modern era.
I think the OG VA were fine by the 2001 standards but Marias VA was on another level.
Remake is fine but OG legit killed it at every scene she appeared in.
New James over old james . Old Mary/ Maria over new Mary/ Maria. Old Angela. New laura and new Eddie. Overall the new cast did not disappoint
The OG is untouchable but the new vas are great for the most part. The Angela va is great with the emotions but sounds a bit too... Congested?? It's kinda weird
Honestly not bad except for Angela, I thought the performance was genuinely poor. It could just be that Donna Burke nailed it so hard in the OG, but there's no sense of unsettled-speech or trauma or exhaustion in the remake. The way Angela speaks in the OG is so tired and broken, yet full of bitterness, confusion, etc. It's very specific and I find the remake almost lacks *any* emotion in her voice. Sounds like a woman reading off a script imo.
Eddie & Laura were significantly better, though as a consequence Eddie seems a bit less... unsettling?
The weird, stilted character of the OG was going to be lost in the remake regardless, but they did a good job overall.
When you take on the task of remaking an iconic masterpiece, you'd better expect criticism. IMO, the original doesn't need replacing and I would have much preferred a one to one remaster, like what Konami are doing with Metal Gear Solid 3. Silent Hill 1 would have benefited from a remake more, its a classic but its age really shows now.
I love how Guy Cihi is basically real life James Sunderland, even after many years he looks exactly like James.
Nothing against the new actor in the remake, but you can't replace Guy Cihi because James was basically created around him in everything.
And Guy's performance is probably the most realistic piece of voice acting ever, it doesn't even feel like acting, James really sounds like a person.
boomer nostalgia take, new James is 100% better if u put nostalgia off
Yeah pretty much. Guy Cihi is one of those lightning in a bottle casting choices that feels incredibly difficult to replicate because of how on point he was able to capture James' character and his struggles.
Luke Roberts performance for as good as he was on the surface doesn't quite nail the character in comparison. He sounds flatter and more Hollywood-like in terms of performance to the point where it makes Remake James sound like a completely different character.
@@NoExplosionsMcgee all chars in the remake are different. that is not a negative at all. remake can stand alone and doesnt have to replace og
Makes me really sad to see people hating on the original. Saying we’re blinded by “nostalgia”. (Some of us were small or not even born back then, so I’m a bit confused on how it’s nostalgia?)
The original was supposed to be dreamlike and campy. Uncanny. If you watched any Lynch works, especially Twin Peaks (which inspired SH) you would understand. I really loved how James comes across as apathetic and confused in the original. And nothing can top Mary’s VA.
I think the remake is great, it will never touch the original, of course. I’m very happy Bloober was receptive to feedback. I do think this voice acting is leagues better than the HD release.
I recommend checking out the original if you have time. The fan made HD upscale project is wonderful. If it’s not for you, I understand. I just hope you’ll at least appreciate it.
maybe the objectively bad acting worked given the atmosphere and the limitations of hardware at the time (CRT screens at minimum), but it wasn't intentional. If it was, Mary wouldn't have been such a standout. SH2 had a lot of subtlety in design and direction but given the information we have about production (there was little direction at least in some scenes, according to James's actor), I very much doubt it extended to the amateur actor's performance
It’s because most of the people shown liking the original do their absolute best to crap all over the remake. They glorify so many aspects regardless of if they aged poorly. I saw a guy say the original gameplay was objectively better than the remake. It’s like, really? I understand liking the atmosphere and vibe of the OG, I really do. But I feel people have all these interpretations of how a remake should go that it ultimately is just them wanting the exact same game. They don’t know the difference between a remake and a remaster and it shows. I think you can have a special place for both versions because they are telling their own version of the same story. That’s the magic of what a remake is.
@@YouYubeEnjoyerNum1 Not sure if you actually read my post.
@@chuckingreaper8654 🤷🏻 I’ve only been seeing people hate on the original.
It’s literally all these new bandwagon fans riding so hard for the remake and dogpiling any criticism of it at all. Every remake absolutely nukes any subtle aesthetic and feeling the original had by trying too hard to be realistic and effortless. We don’t need any more remakes FFS stop letting these companies get away with lazy cash grabs
O original tem uma característica bem radionovela, ou seja, você não consegue ver os atores, mas apenas pode ouvir a entonação das vozes, por isso elas tem uma carga emocional mais elevada. O original é cinematográfico e foi feito para ser dessa forma. É de gosto pessoal a preferência.
Muitas das críticas são feitas por fãs com uma carga nostálgica muito alta que endeusam o jogo original como se fosse a maior maravilha já feita por mãos humanas quando muitas das coisas lá presentes, provavelmente foram feitas sem querer, como sempre ocorrem nessas produções. Seja por orçamento ou prazos apertados.
Eu até li um comentário daqui mesmo em que o cara comparava o James dizendo que o do jogo original parecia mais "chad" e o do remake parecia um cara mais "chorão e triste". Aparentemente ele estava querendo dizer que o do original era melhor que o do remake, mas falhou miseravelmente. Não consigo imaginar que a intenção dos criadores era deixar o James mais "chad" e acho que o aspecto mais triste é mais condizente com o personagem. Mas essa foi a impressão que o fã teve do James no original o que me leva a crer que muita coisa não é intencional. Isso para mim só demonstra que os fãs encontram aquilo que desejam encontrar dentro da obra e nada mais.
Remake James sound really deep, Mature and depressed
Unlike og James who always look confused and have no idea what he's doing
But guess what
Og James is the original James
And remake James was a clone😂
Well, he should look confused and not know what he's doing because of what's happened to him.
@@Takeshi470 I think that is what make the og James feel special
Og James is so classic
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT
Do you...know what clone means?
@@redhood8798 he is referencing the remake ufo ending haha
Salóme Gunnarsdóttir played her role phenomenally! Incredibly felt the character! In general, everyone played brilliantly, I will also note the actress playing Laura, she will also play Laura in the upcoming film!
For my personal preference
James - Both of them are pretty good, though OG appearance can be more deceiving
Maria/Mary : OG by a mile, it's just too hard to beat OG VA for this one
Angela : OG as well, while I not say OG VA casting is perfect, however Remake VA deliverance is just too bland, especially her last scene in the game
Eddie : This one I have to say Remake is better, his characterization deliverance is so perfect for how dangerous he is and send a chill into my spine
Laura : Both are them are fine, but I think OG is acting more like a weird little brat and Remake one seem more like normal kid
Wow, hands down the original voice cast! 🫡
Sorry, but OG is my heart, mind, and soul.
The OG va is objectively better. The new James VA tries hard to be melodramatic, but that's entirely NOT the point of James, not even close. The slight campiness and cluelesness of the original James is a fundamental part of the story.
The other VAs in the remake are just bad regardless of what we compare them to.
@@usernameRika Bullshit 👆
It's not fair to compare the gameplay cause it's a whole new generation @Brandon-mh3pv
Ive played it first time in may 2024 and the og just does not want to let me go.
The way angela says Lost
Maria says im not your mary
Or how james says everything.
@Brandon-mh3pvbut the og still aged perfectly. Its not like you get frustraded because the gameplay sucks. Its actually very easy
The voice acting quality in the Remake ranges from being flat and generic to being Bland to being melodramatic just for the sake of it sometimes. It's distractingly inconsistent.
ok boomer play og then
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 lol
The new voices actors all did a great job, all except for Maria. The actress sounds like she's reading a script half the time and has zero range. Not only that, but the OG Maria was gorgeous, the way her eyes and mouth looked was magnetizing. The new Maria just looks like plain Jane.
Absolutely zero warmth in the new Maria's voice.
Well she's Nordic so that explains it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Donna Burke who is the singer of Metal Gear Solid 3, Peace Walker and The Phantom Pain main themes! I didn't know she worked on the original Silent Hill 2. Good surprise!
She worked on SH3, too! She plays Claudia, the main antagonist
@@FrancescaMarini9 Ho ok, i had no idea. Thanks! :)
She did not sing Snake Eater, lol. That's Cynthia Harrell. But she did also voice the iDroid narrator in MGSV that tells you when storms are coming, etc.
@@celedhion Really? It's been so long, i don't remember well. But Their voices are so similar when i listen to the songs!
The original voices. Always in my heart. Best.
But the remake voices are better than the HD edition
I like the original voice actors, the originals sound so numb, broken and tired, perfect, the new ones sound like their trying to hard
yep
Maria's new Mocap/VA has the best last name ever 😂 its so Norse Meta
New Maria's voice fits perfectly for the next windows' cortana voice. What they've done to the character, dude... It made me cry way more than Mary's letter.
maria’s remake actor looks stunning with the super pale hair and brows and eyes, otherworldly 🤩
Thanks for that side to side comparison. It just shows how voice direction in remake made deliveries flat, lacking something. To be honest I like how much Eddie was improved, Laura is bearable, but I just can't stand James and especially Maria and Angela. James supposed to feel.. off, like mentally distanced due to his suppressed guilt and it was done on purpose for the final reveal. He was so obsessed with Mary that he just didn't care about anything, nor anyone. When he meets Eddie, it's clear that something off is wrong with him, yet James seems to don't see it, he almost leave Maria behind and his reaction to see her again is mistaking her - again - for Mary and being disappointed it's her ("Oh. it's You, Maria. Anyway I'm [...]" - sells it all). On the other hand while in original Maria is just going back and forth 180' from being cold, manipulative, seductive to this kind, caring, empathetic Mary impressions, in remake she seems to be more emotionless, machine-like, less expressive. Angela had this often has this outburst of anger, irritation, desperation, but when she goes from being emotionally disconnected, depressed to angry - it's fluent. In remake her outburst are - to some degree - like laughable, at least to me. At one moment she is mentally broken, and seconds after she turns into "boss girl". Is voice acting bad? No, it's definitely better than HD collection, but next to OG it feels lackluster and I'd say it's not actors faul, it's voice acting direction issue.
I will always love the first James. Always.
James looks like a Chad in the OG. In the remake he looks like he's gonna cry any moment now
God, both Angela’s are amazing. Their cries are perfect and I genuinely feel for both.
As an artist I can tell they purposefully made the Maria and Angela's heads a a bit bigger especially Maria making it disproportionate
why?
Yes, why do you think they would do this? Aesthetic choice, trying to emphasize some feeling it’s meant to evoke subconsciously, what?
My only problem with the new va casting is only Maria, the og one gives such an etherial creature ( cause she’s not a real human being she’s literally born from a wish ) , i miss the psychotic aspect of her character, the new maria va only gives u seductive vibes like she want to become james’s secret mistress fr, new maria comes in as a more mentally stable person especially in the prison scene unlike og maria with the iconic line “ I’m not your mary. “
For me :
• James OG = James Remake
• Angela OG > Angela Remake
• Eddie OG < Eddie Remake
• Laura OG < Laura Remake
• Mary/Maria OG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary/Maria Remake
OG is more interesting for me
Thou the remake could have been much worse; the remake sounds generic at times, but not awful.
James is good, Laura is fine and Eddie is actually way better than the original, at least in the scene showcased here. But Angela is *ss and Mary/Maria is just meh...
New angela sounds like Abella danger lmao
The rest of actors in the remake are just perfect
OG characters still looking better, especially female, plus I did not know David Duchovny was performing as Angela.
Ah yes I bet your just the most attractive human ever
@@habijjj Im more atractive than you for sure, thats enough.
@@ArielCleirigh Are this this unlikable by choice or does it come naturally.
Angela looks fine they patched her somewhat in the update anyways
I gotta say, Scott killed the Eddie role. Every scene was just gold.
I'm in the camp Of the old voice acting Like the old voice acting Because it's not really acting at all You're doing your best sound as natural as possible And the old voice acting The first director wanted it that way In the original silent Hill He wanted it to sound natural So that's where the original voice acting Sounds the way it does But in the remake It is just acting And I think Fans Tell that I know I could
Yes they're trying too hard and i really notice this with Angela because in the original her lines are monotonous but in the new one she is always sobbing and that's not even realistic for traumatised people
BRAVO !!! Both cast made a great job ... bravo!!!
Mary and Maria just ain't it it feels completely forced
Exactly, one of the big things that made the silent hill characters so awesome is how real they felt, james was a broken man that was tired of life and numb, his original voice actor nails that perfectly, he's not some hollywood actor that's pretending to be sad
Agela especially. Maria is also so bad how did they mess up her most important scene twice? She's supposed to sound like two different people at the same time which is what is confusing James.
Luke Roberts was born to be James Sunderland, he sounds so tired and confused, he's damn convincing. And props to Salome too, she sounds more seductive and treacherous, I had a bad feeling about Maria from the beggining.
New angela looks like a penguin lol
The model for Maria would be SO perfect for Claudia
As a person who doesn't really know about silent hill this comment section is scary 😰
As an og fan the comment section is top tier phycological horror!
They won't admit they were wrong and are willing to find any excuses to justify their legendary toxicity.
@@theredbutterfly-nah we weren't really wrong
@@anomitas yes, you were.
@theredbutterfly- nope but its ok to be wrong!
I really have to admit, they did a really good job on the voices. But nothing will ever beat the original.
Although some scenes in the remake are way more explicit than they were in the original like the room with the abstract daddy boss fight. Due to the much higher detail you can now clearly see what Thomas Orosco did to his daughter. In the original the shapes and forms were much more vague and I think this was also intentional.
Japanese horror is way more sinister and physic than the typical western horror like in Silent Hill Homecoming.
Original cast, no question. New voices don’t even come close.
I pity you if you really believe that nonsense 😂
@@m.r4841 Ok
Yea they surpass the OG in some cases 😊
I didn't discover the Silent Hill games until a few years ago so I don't have the deep connection to the original cast that a lot of people have. I adore the performances on the remake cast! To, they are perfect. Angela's gut wrenching sobs and the way she flips between fearful and deep depression, Eddie's slow loss of empathy, Laura's disdainful amusement towards James, Maria's seductiveness, Mary's exhaustion, and James being so repressed and stoic unless he's bashing a monster's head in are just amazing!
Gianna Kiehl did an incredible job!
She got so much hate and she didn’t deserve it. She captured Angela’s fear so well
I think we can all agree that these are so much better than the HD collection redubs. It has big named voice actors but somehow sounds awful in near every line.
Voice acting sounds good in remake in general.
The only thing, female characters....how do I put it....sounds too...I don't know, movie-like. The point is, original female VAs sound more...mmm...specific I guess, new one sounds like any female in any other movie you can watch nowadays. And Maria....she really sounds like a boss while she's supposed to be teasing and playful like the original.
The whole remake cast are awesome, I give half of them a 9/10 and the rest 10/10.
the remake voice of James Sunderland did a awesome job on the remake. everybody on the remake did a good job on the remake.
I hope more remakes of Silent Hill are coming in the future.
Luke has a deeper cadence to his voice with slight octave jumps, Guy sounds very nasely constantly.
The deeper voice conveys a inner sadness better, imo.
Also I love Angela’s new voice, it has a tomboy-raspy tone that I think fits the character better given her trauma
I like cihi's voice better personally because he sounds numb, it just sounds so good and fitting and perfect
Hes not supposed to be sad but unhinged and in denial
I like the original and Mary's Letter better, but I still like the remake just the same.
As vosses do remake são boas mais a do clássico são insuperáveis ❤
Both Guy Cihi and Luke Roberts did amazing job with James Sunderland 😍 The best videogame voice action performances I have ever heard ❤
I know it’s not true but it’s crazy to me that anyone who played the original especially years ago would think these are an improvement and isn’t just new to the series. Different strokes I guess.
I played the OG when it was new. I was 19 years old. The Silent Hill Series is my favorite game series of all time, I’ve replayed them all multiple times except the ones not available to me. SH2 is my favorite game of all time. I’ve beat it more times than I can count. But these new voice actors are good. Are they replacing the OGs? No. But this remake is fantastic.
Love both the original and the remake unconditionally. One thing Bloober did right is that they didn'tmake the original obsolete - they go hand in hand. Experiencing Silent Hill 2 would feel so much more complete playing both games, and that's how I felt like playing the remake. They just happen to be vastly different interpretations of the same story.
@@YoongisUnlitCigarette I really am glad you enjoy it even if I’m not on the same page.
Looking forward to F though! The art style looks amazing.
Luke Roberts deserves a nomination for best performance
Angela is only 19 so I prefer her new voice. Her original voice is good but she sounds older and not like a depressed young woman who’s battling her fears.
I agree. That's why I like her new appearance as well. In the OG, I thought she was closer to James age. I was shocked when I found out how young she was.
uhm, no
@@_Gilles_ emphasis on the “I prefer”
TBH that was the point with her characters - to show how years of trauma, psychological and physical abuse took it's toll on her and changed her.
If you watch the the making of silent hill they specifically chose to make her seem older than she actually is. They wanted her character to make you uncomfortable in that way.
Sounding depressed isn't the point. She's unstable and dangerous she's like a bomb that could go off at any time but you don't know when.
"In my restless dreams, I see that remake, Silent Hill, you promised me you made it someday... but you never did!"