Current Console Wars score: •Nintendo: *56* wins •Sega: 52 wins (or 53*) •2 ties the detailed scoreboard: 110 console wars episodes, plus 1 "what's the difference" video comparing SNES vs Sega CD (which sega "won") Of those 110, *1 episode compares a SNES vs 32x version of a game, (Sega won) *3 episodes compares NES vs Sega Master System games, (Sega won 2, Nintendo won 1) *and 2 episodes compares a non-game product (Menacer vs Super Scope, & SNES Classic Edition vs Sega Genesis Mini) (Nintendo won both 2) of the remaining 104 that specifically compare Sega Genesis vs SNES games, 70 compares a same game (ex. this episode right here), 24 compares 2 different titles (ex. Castlevania bloodlines vs Super Castlevania 4), and 10 compares totally different games that have a same title (ex. Jurassic Park) - of these 70 same-game comparisons, Sega won 31 and Nintendo won 37, and there was 2 ties - of these 24 different titles comparison, Sega and Nintendo won 12 both - of these 10 same-name-different-games comparison, Sega won 6 and Nintendo won 4 - - Overall scores (depending on the criteria you'll choose:) - - Anything Goes - All episodes, even 8-bit war, 32x, and non-software related comparison: Nintendo *(56)* vs. Sega (52), 2 ties Anything Goes+ - All episodes PLUS the "what's the difference" video comparing Final Fight in SNES and Sega CD: Nintendo *(56)* vs. Sega (53), 2 ties All the games/software related comparison: Nintendo *(54)* vs. Sega (53|52), 2 ties All the games/software related comparison between SNES vs Sega Genesis _and its add-ons:_ Nintendo *(53)* vs. Sega (51|50), 2 ties All the games/software related comparison between SNES vs Sega Genesis: Nintendo *(53)* vs. Sega (49), 2 ties - Graphics - • Nintendo won graphics in *69* episodes • Sega won graphics in 33 episodes (38 if you count SMS, Sega CD, and 32x), • both tied in 2 • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "graphics" department being compared - Presentation - • Nintendo won presentation in 54 episodes (56 if you count NES and the SNES vs. 32x episode) • Sega won presentation in *40* episodes (43 if you count SMS and Sega CD), • both tied in 10 • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "presentation" department being compared - Sound - • Nintendo won sound in *57* episodes (60 if you count NES and the SNES vs. 32x episode) • Sega won sound in 38 episodes (40 if you count SMS and Sega CD), • both tied in 9 • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "sound" department being compared - Gameplay - • Nintendo won gameplay in 42 episodes (43 if you count NES) • Sega won gameplay in 49 episodes (53 if you count SMS, Sega CD, and 32x), • both tied in *13* • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "gameplay" department being compared obs. for all cases, the "win-lost" results in "Which is worse" episodes are counted in reverse. Ex. Ghostbusters episode (a Master System vs NES episode) was a "Which is worse" episode, where the NES version won the "worseness competition" and so I counted it as a Sega win.
A true banger thar any SEGA fan should learn and be ready to drop at a moments notice inside a Nintendo fan's home. Because you're never too old to cling onto long gone, meaningless battles adult PR people convinced you to fight :)
I was teaching a class last night (over 40 students), and at one point, when asked to demonstrate what I was explaining, I brought up the classic (at least to me, long time subscriber) “That’s it! Are we doing this?”. The awkward silence revealed that I was indeed the only one in class that watches this channel… 😄
I love the development of Console War's running gags; with even Dan's outraged yell of "Are we doing this?!" now consistently happening while playing guitar.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 Your favorite snes song is the fairy fountain theme in zelda, you like to twirl like a fairy boy in your crop top to that song⛲🧚 😆
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 I thought you said the genesis sound chip sounds like a fax machine? Now it sounds like a wet dog, are you on copium? Go twirl in a crop top and listen to the muffled fairy fountain theme from zelda 🧚⛲ 😆
Tying Pastrami’s origin story with Pinocchio is incredibly satisfying. However it makes me wonder why Geppetto made him in the first place 🧐 also this game is insanely gorgeous, especially the Jiminy Cricket level
Honestly, Rabbit Rampage is the better game. Sunsoft and Viacom both cooked with that title in the graphics and presentation department, though the gameplay could've used more polish. Beyond that, it represents Looney Tunes so well and the various cartoons featured in said game. As for Double Trouble, while it's not a bad game, the idea of going through a maze to find various mcguffins can get rather irritating. Also, with the game being made by Probe Software, _the same ones who made the awful ports of Mortal Kombat 1 and 2,_ it leaves a lot to be desired. The music was pretty good, I'll give the game that.
In the gameplay round, I was really caught off guard by Pinocchio beating the Coachman with a fatality. I dare both of you to top that in the new year.
Always been curious why Pinocchio was never included on the recent Disney Lion King, Aladdin, Jungle Book collection. As it really is the final title in that series.
@consolewars Thank you for all the hard work you put into Console Wars! I never miss an episode, and it’s such a fantastic way to enjoy my weekends. Your dedication and creativity are truly appreciated! keep up the amazing work!
The Monstro level and Escape From Monstro level are creepy AF. I was actually creeped out by how realistic the whale looked when you didn't move fast enough in the chasing level. It creeped me out so much I actually cursed for the first time and my mommy slapped me on my mouth for the first time. 😂
I'll be first to admit it's usually the other way around (where the Mega Drive/Genesis colours look washed out) but in this case the Genesis graphics definitely have the edge. Just look at the title screen @ 8:14. I think it's worthy of reconsideration.
It is the blacks. Weirdly in a lot of Genesis/SNES games the developers chose a light grey color intead of a solid black color for the SNES version. So you can just lower the "brithness" control in your tv so the SNES game will look as "contrasty", or someone could release a patch to make those light greys completly black. 🤔
This was a lot of fun, perhaps more fun than the game. I really enjoyed the "cropped" song, though I prefer Def Leppard's classic hit "Crop Crop Till You Drop". Not pointing out the cropping is like Pat not being allowed to talk about colors. Fair is fair. I'm trying to figure out what the hint for next week is. It always Bugs me when I can't figure it out, but that cute Bunny picture sure does lift my spirits.
I already know for a fact that the Bugs Bunny games episode is going to be a washout. I played the Genesis game when I was a kid, and I didn't like the idea of going through a maze _in every single level,_ just to "Find the McGuffins!" Rabbit Rampage is gonna destroy Double Trouble.
They are doing an Bugs Bunny episode next I can't wait. Also a great episode a little better than I expected actually. Some surprisingly great jokes thrown it was one of the better Disney episodes.
Another great vid, guys. Thanks for everything you do. There’s still so much left to cover. I surely hope you compare *Weapon Lord* and then fighting game exclusives, *Killer Instinct* vs. *Eternal Champions* or *Virtua Fighter 2* . Also, still wanting to see an episode comparing SHMUPS. Great games on both SNES and Genesis! I’ll keep saying it until I see something.
@ hell yes! *Space Harrier 2* or *Burning Force* vs. *Axelay* . Honestly, *Burning Force* is my all time favorite Genesis game. Something about the design of it was just spectacular to me. Also, there isn’t a better Genesis soundtrack ever! It was the game that made me want a Genesis. I have it on Nintendo Switch, but it’s the arcade version rather than the Genesis version. Namco brought the game home to SEGA’s console in 1990 and most people have completely forgotten it. *Burning Force* is an obscure title, but it deserves some attention by some retro enthusiasts. The same stuff can be said for *Axelay* for the SNES. The Mode-7 effects with enemy ships and obstacles coming over the horizon are absolutely incredible. The music was also great. Everything about this unique Konami shooter was groundbreaking, for the time. *Axelay* and *Burning Force* are, to me, held in the highest esteem. They both capture the arcade shmup style that made gaming an absolute blast in the 90’s. They were both magical games from the 16-bit era and they are some of my favorite games to this very day. I would LOVE to see a Console Wars video pitting these two games against one another.
Hey guys! Kind of a more general "Super NES vs. Sega Genesis" comment here - I love that you capture the community sentiments in your scripted debates! "That game is cropped" is a perfect example, or the way you script the audio debates - you always do your best to capture "this is what the Sega fans are thinking" and "this is the Super NES fans are thinking" and then you always do your best to go objective! So, one thing I haven't noticed in any of your videos (and trust me I've been waiting!) is when Sega hits back with "Mode 7 looks awful though!" - or "Mode 7 is soo lame!" I remember all these comments from the Sega-16 forum days "I don't get how people aren't bothered by everything being flat" - "Mode 7 is just blurry and always controls awful" - "Mode 7 is so much lower resolution than the rest of the game and it lags" - "Somehow they never noticed that sprites only scaled in empty scenes, or that the screen throw in Turtles in Time is just a three frame animation, not Mode 7." For example when we debated The Great Circus Mystery on forums back then, the Sega players always talked about how their exclusive level was better because it *did not* use Mode 7 and thus looked nicer on the eyes and played better. (I like that you tied gameplay for that game, because that felt objective - and that's probably the episode where it seemed most fitting to bring the old community arguments into the script for Graphics) I always liked that Hyperstone Heist took out the 3D throw, because it was a huge buff for fighting. You WANT the slam throw because it protects you and hurts / kills the other enemies on screen. It was always an "uh oh" moment to get the 3D throw in Turtles 4 because you might get hit in an intense fight. The Genesis enemies being more aggressive likely had something to do with that decision because it's far more noticeable that the 3D throw leaves you very vulnerable. I did Google around some and I see that these kind of Mode 7 dissenting arguments aren't exactly easy to find so maybe it's a case of "you had to be there" to know about these discussions back in the GameFAQs days, some of those quotes above are direct from Sega-16 forums while some are from memory. But I still hope this kind of classic community argument can find its way into a video in the future! :D Thank you for still making these videos after so many years. You're still my favorite channel on UA-cam, both of these consoles deserve all the love and passion they get. Saquon Barkley gonna break that all time rushing record?? : )
Great video and digging the details of both versions. Suggestions of future episodes are: 1. monopoly ( 1991 video game) ( SNES vs Genesis) 2. King of the monsters ( SNES vs Genesis) 3. King of the monsters 2 ( SNES vs Genesis) 4. Thomas the tank engine & friends ( 1993 video game) ( SNES vs Genesis) 5. Areo the Acrobat ( SNES vs Genesis) 6. Areo the Acrobat 2 ( SNES vs Genesis) 7. Zero the kamikaze squirrel ( SNES vs Genesis)
Great to get some more of the deep Console Wars lore, curious to see where it'll go from here. But all in all another great episode about one of those games that, rightfully I feel, gets overlooked.
Guys, by the Sock-Puppet Joke, I had almost tears in my eyes from laughing. Not only because of your texts, but also, because it looks so funny at all. Great again.
Woo Hoo! Amazing! Astounding! Excellent! This might be the Best Console Wars Episode of 2024, and a perfect Episode to end 2024 with! The Story! The Sketches! The Categories! The Actual Game! It was all perfect! Love how balanced and not one-sided the Categories were, thus creating unpredictability for me and leaving me wondering "Which is Gonna Win?" throughout. Great work on noting the Differences in Details in the Graphics and Sounds. Liked hearing the contrasts when you pointed out the Missing Sound Effects and Bits of Music between each Version. I was actually wondering if the Genesis Version would narrowly win because of the, um, "Respawn After Losing a Life Sequence" being skippable in that Version, unlike the SNES Version. Still, I guess that was just a minor thing, not big enough to break the Tie in the Gameplay Category. Plus, I suppose the SNES Version usually being the cheaper Version is a good point too. Oh, and this Episode's Story was Wonderful! Great use of Officer Pastrami here! I was actually expecting a Pinocchio Puppet, or at least a Pinocchio Doll to be an actual Character with Lines in this Episode. Y'know like the Mickey and Minnie Mouse Dolls were Characters with Lines in your "Great Circus Mystery" Episode. However, seeing as Officer Pastrami and Pinocchio are both Puppets, I believe putting Officer Pastrami in the Spotlight for this Episode was a Excellent Idea! Having the Pinocchio Video Game be the Subject of the Episode was a fine Excuse to give Officer Pastrami a "Day in the Limelight", as I think TV Tropes would call it. I think the whole "Become Puppets to Be Immortal" was a nice idea for the, uh, Motivation or Driving Force of this Episode's Story. Also, I liked the Fairy and Geppetto you got for this Episode. The Fairy got at least a chuckle or two out of me? Were you trying to make her a "Discount Blue Fairy"? That was the impression I got, and I liked the result! A few more things: - Thanks for focusing on the "Being a Puppet" part of Pinocchio and not the whole "Nose Grows After Telling a Lie" thing. The Nose Thing isn't really that big a thing in Disney's Pinocchio, or Pinocchio in general, at least from what I gather. I did read the original story as told in a few children's' books, so it's not like Disney's Pinocchio is the only version of the story I know. - Loved how to took some time to focus on the whole "Defeating/Killing the Coachman" thing, with a Mortal Kombat reference to go with it! - Nice little touch including a reference to "Pinocchio's Revenge"! Nice to see you're not afraid to make obscure references! - Loved the "Cropped" Song! Great way to make a Joke about how often the whole "SNES Version is Cropped" Point comes up! Anyway, there's probably more I wanna say, but I think I've said enough for now. Thanks so much for this Episode! Like I said earlier, I think this was a Perfect Episode to end 2024 with! I'd even say it ended the Year with a Bang! I'm just a tad disappointed that the Episode to end 2024 in December wasn't for James Pond II : Robocod, a.k.a. Super James Pond, 'cause both Versions of that Game are Christmas-Themed. Ah well, there's always Next Year! This Year's December Episode totally makes up for it. Oh, and one more thing. That "Next Episode Hint" is easy! It's gotta be the Bugs Bunny Games, "Rabbit Rampage" for SNES and "Double Trouble" for Genesis. Hey, I've been looking forward to seeing those Games being compared, so I guess I'll be waiting with bated breath! Wow! Sure spent a long time Commenting! Thanks a Bunch for Everything! Farewell for now! You Rock!!!
The resolution increase in the sega game balances out the extra colours of the snes game that denote additional facts about the object (like the rocky protrusions, and roofing tiles).
Hint: BOTH ARE STRETCHED. The SNES version gets stretched horizontally while the Genesis version gets squashed, vertically stretched. Let´s thank the incredible NTSC video standard for not using square pixels 😆
I feel great to have requested this. I have the SNES version, and I know it has the heart for Music and Presentation even if the genesis version has Wish upon a Star in the cutscenes similar to Toy Story on the Genesis. The game play is where the Genesis may have its advantages like screen resolution and better colors, but the Stromboli Stage may be the game's Achillies heel even if using the Six button controller. The SNES sings with great controls in all fronts.
U'all forgot one thing in the graphics department. Sega's version is more colorful in contrast. It's what stood out to me every time I saw the comparison videos.
Great video fellas! Do you guys still want suggestions? If so, I think an episode on Last Action Hero would be cool. It'd be one of those "Which one is worse" episodes and I imagine you could think up some really funny skits for it!
Current Console Wars score:
•Nintendo: *56* wins
•Sega: 52 wins (or 53*)
•2 ties
the detailed scoreboard:
110 console wars episodes, plus 1 "what's the difference" video comparing SNES vs Sega CD (which sega "won")
Of those 110,
*1 episode compares a SNES vs 32x version of a game, (Sega won)
*3 episodes compares NES vs Sega Master System games, (Sega won 2, Nintendo won 1)
*and 2 episodes compares a non-game product (Menacer vs Super Scope, & SNES Classic Edition vs Sega Genesis Mini) (Nintendo won both 2)
of the remaining 104 that specifically compare Sega Genesis vs SNES games,
70 compares a same game (ex. this episode right here),
24 compares 2 different titles (ex. Castlevania bloodlines vs Super Castlevania 4),
and 10 compares totally different games that have a same title (ex. Jurassic Park)
- of these 70 same-game comparisons, Sega won 31 and Nintendo won 37, and there was 2 ties
- of these 24 different titles comparison, Sega and Nintendo won 12 both
- of these 10 same-name-different-games comparison, Sega won 6 and Nintendo won 4
- - Overall scores (depending on the criteria you'll choose:) - -
Anything Goes - All episodes, even 8-bit war, 32x, and non-software related comparison:
Nintendo *(56)* vs. Sega (52), 2 ties
Anything Goes+ - All episodes PLUS the "what's the difference" video comparing Final Fight in SNES and Sega CD:
Nintendo *(56)* vs. Sega (53), 2 ties
All the games/software related comparison:
Nintendo *(54)* vs. Sega (53|52), 2 ties
All the games/software related comparison between SNES vs Sega Genesis _and its add-ons:_
Nintendo *(53)* vs. Sega (51|50), 2 ties
All the games/software related comparison between SNES vs Sega Genesis:
Nintendo *(53)* vs. Sega (49), 2 ties
- Graphics -
• Nintendo won graphics in *69* episodes
• Sega won graphics in 33 episodes (38 if you count SMS, Sega CD, and 32x),
• both tied in 2
• in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "graphics" department being compared
- Presentation -
• Nintendo won presentation in 54 episodes (56 if you count NES and the SNES vs. 32x episode)
• Sega won presentation in *40* episodes (43 if you count SMS and Sega CD),
• both tied in 10
• in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "presentation" department being compared
- Sound -
• Nintendo won sound in *57* episodes (60 if you count NES and the SNES vs. 32x episode)
• Sega won sound in 38 episodes (40 if you count SMS and Sega CD),
• both tied in 9
• in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "sound" department being compared
- Gameplay -
• Nintendo won gameplay in 42 episodes (43 if you count NES)
• Sega won gameplay in 49 episodes (53 if you count SMS, Sega CD, and 32x),
• both tied in *13*
• in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "gameplay" department being compared
obs. for all cases, the "win-lost" results in "Which is worse" episodes are counted in reverse.
Ex. Ghostbusters episode (a Master System vs NES episode) was a "Which is worse" episode, where the NES version won the "worseness competition" and so I counted it as a Sega win.
Wow! Thanks for putting in so much time and effort to give us all these details. Major kudos, good Sir.
Great analysis. I actually enjoyed the stats.
Nice graphics stat for the SNES at this particular snapshot in time.
The Super Nintendo had the best graphics of all time 🙌 🎮
Any claims that Sega has better music ever with their tinny elcronic sound is just a lie.
The closed caption on the intro reads "I'm Nintendo and I'm SEO this is God's Awards"
they are gods amoung men lol
That was accurate closed captioning... I'm not sure what the problem is
the crossover battle we've been waiting for!
Auto-generation isn't perfect.
Fatal fury2 compare
How do you guys not have millions of subscribers? You guys freaking rock.
The crop song is peak console wars
Yes! It really caught me off guard and had me laughing.
It's part of the greatest hits. Along with "Babes on Sega" & "For Art in my Face"
A true banger thar any SEGA fan should learn and be ready to drop at a moments notice inside a Nintendo fan's home. Because you're never too old to cling onto long gone, meaningless battles adult PR people convinced you to fight :)
Yeah, that's new. It's awesome!
Do they have enough tracks to make a Console Wars Album yet?
I was teaching a class last night (over 40 students), and at one point, when asked to demonstrate what I was explaining, I brought up the classic (at least to me, long time subscriber) “That’s it! Are we doing this?”.
The awkward silence revealed that I was indeed the only one in class that watches this channel… 😄
Looks like next class you gotta show those kids some Console Wars lol
That's an instant one grade deduction for each student
Yes!! Great episode! Please do a Battle Tech on Genesis vs. Mech Warrior 3050 on SNES.
That ‘cropping song’ 😂
Imagine if Sega had featured this in their commercials back in the early 90s 😅
There needs to be a full version of that song.
Been watching for a while but don't comment often. Just wanted to say i love the channel and the sketches! It has the perfect DIY charm.
Thank you!
Thanks! I try to keep it fun.
*YAY!! New Console Wars!* 💙
I always thought I’d see the day
I love the development of Console War's running gags; with even Dan's outraged yell of "Are we doing this?!" now consistently happening while playing guitar.
That Mortal Kombat reference on Pinocchio cracks me up so hard!
Fun fact: in the book, Pinocchio was eaten by an asthmatic shark, not a whale. Yes, the shark had asthma.
I can't believe they are comparing "Bob, the Entomologist Hare" next! Absolute hidden gem ❤
When you said "this is Console wars" my closed captioning said "this is God's awards" lol.
Bravo to the reliability and perfection of AI! (clap clap)
That cropped song was the greatest snes diss ever 🤣
I posted the same thing lol 😂
@@Super_Croptendo diss was almost as good as the Genesis using wet dog farts as sound effects, lol.
@@yeahyeahwowman8099 Your favorite snes song is the fairy fountain theme in zelda, you like to twirl like a fairy boy in your crop top to that song⛲🧚
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@@yeahyeahwowman8099 I thought you said the genesis sound chip sounds like a fax machine? Now it sounds like a wet dog, are you on copium? Go twirl in a crop top and listen to the muffled fairy fountain theme from zelda 🧚⛲
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@@yeahyeahwowman8099Go listen to your gay whimsical snes music, fairy boy's twirling to the fairy fountain theme from zelda ⛲🧚
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I’m so happy they’re still doing these
We are too!
Wow, I was not expecting to learn Pastrami’s backstory. Pretty neat.
Tying Pastrami’s origin story with Pinocchio is incredibly satisfying. However it makes me wonder why Geppetto made him in the first place 🧐 also this game is insanely gorgeous, especially the Jiminy Cricket level
I haven’t watched in years and the fact everything is the same, including you guys and all the music, makes me extremely happy
I don’t know why you don’t have more subs. Super cheesy awesomeness.
I appreciate that!
It's always great to see you guys! We need more Console Wars!
Bugs Bunny Rabbit Rampage vs Bugs Bunny in Double Trouble
Honestly, Rabbit Rampage is the better game. Sunsoft and Viacom both cooked with that title in the graphics and presentation department, though the gameplay could've used more polish. Beyond that, it represents Looney Tunes so well and the various cartoons featured in said game.
As for Double Trouble, while it's not a bad game, the idea of going through a maze to find various mcguffins can get rather irritating. Also, with the game being made by Probe Software, _the same ones who made the awful ports of Mortal Kombat 1 and 2,_ it leaves a lot to be desired. The music was pretty good, I'll give the game that.
"Eh, What's Up Doc?"
That ending was hilarious. Love how this show has somehow continued to feel like early UA-cam since its inception even with the obvious added polish.
It's always a better day when I log in and see a new video from Console Wars. Thanks Dan and Pat. Keep up the great work. Cheers
Cheers to you!
In the gameplay round, I was really caught off guard by Pinocchio beating the Coachman with a fatality. I dare both of you to top that in the new year.
Always been curious why Pinocchio was never included on the recent Disney Lion King, Aladdin, Jungle Book collection. As it really is the final title in that series.
Why hello you, gonna watch some fact hunt after this
@consolewars Thank you for all the hard work you put into Console Wars! I never miss an episode, and it’s such a fantastic way to enjoy my weekends. Your dedication and creativity are truly appreciated! keep up the amazing work!
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Yeeeeee!! CONSOLE WARS!!! thank you very much!
Underrated channel hands down
This was one of the best episodes ever, pretty much knocked it out of the park.
Glad you enjoyed it!
One of my favorite channels in UA-cam! Keep doing what you do! I will always support this channel!
HAHAHA this was fun! You guys are crazy! 😂
“Babe I’m gonna leave you.” I love it
Good ear
So iconic change between these 2 chords.
I’ve been waiting for this episode for 28 friggin years woooohoooo Let’s Gooooooooo🤘🏽
The Monstro level and Escape From Monstro level are creepy AF. I was actually creeped out by how realistic the whale looked when you didn't move fast enough in the chasing level. It creeped me out so much I actually cursed for the first time and my mommy slapped me on my mouth for the first time. 😂
Hilarious 😂
I like the colors on the Genesis more. The contrast is so much better, the SNES looks faded and washed out. Am I the only one?
Yea but thts more like pinecone arrsyle
I'll be first to admit it's usually the other way around (where the Mega Drive/Genesis colours look washed out) but in this case the Genesis graphics definitely have the edge. Just look at the title screen @ 8:14. I think it's worthy of reconsideration.
Nintendo bias Sega looks way better
It is the blacks. Weirdly in a lot of Genesis/SNES games the developers chose a light grey color intead of a solid black color for the SNES version. So you can just lower the "brithness" control in your tv so the SNES game will look as "contrasty", or someone could release a patch to make those light greys completly black. 🤔
Yeah I think it's a "to each his own" mentality with the graphics. I personally prefer the SNES graphics
Dan, glad to see you're keeping the channel going. Hope it's paying off for you (your fanbase is very grateful).
I still enjoy doing it so even life’s a little more hectic these days, I’ll keep doing it.
Personally, I just like having the occasional Christmas tree thrown at me
Wonderful video on this iconic Disney film video game adaptation. Keep up your great work.
I appreciate every new episode of console wars here :D
We appreciate you watching and commenting
@@ConsoleWars :D
5:00 the action figures on the book shelves 😂😂😂
Okay... the crop song is a stroke of genius!
It's been forever but awesome! Great to see another episode :)
Thanks again for the games!
Great video guys as always are you guys just getting better and better. You guys are incredibly underrated you guys deserve more subs.
Am I going out of my mind? I could swear you did this game already.
I didn’t even know there was a Pinocchio 16 bit game. Might check it out. Thanks for the great video guys!
Our pleasure!
Holy shit! They're back.. welcome 🤗
Another great episode! Awesome work guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was a lot of fun, perhaps more fun than the game. I really enjoyed the "cropped" song, though I prefer Def Leppard's classic hit "Crop Crop Till You Drop". Not pointing out the cropping is like Pat not being allowed to talk about colors. Fair is fair.
I'm trying to figure out what the hint for next week is. It always Bugs me when I can't figure it out, but that cute Bunny picture sure does lift my spirits.
Glad to see this channel still going after all these years despite the change up on host
This is definitely one of those games where the music was composed for SNES and then ported to MD. I can just feel it
Best retro game channel in the business, Console wars rules!
You’re too kind
I already know for a fact that the Bugs Bunny games episode is going to be a washout. I played the Genesis game when I was a kid, and I didn't like the idea of going through a maze _in every single level,_ just to "Find the McGuffins!" Rabbit Rampage is gonna destroy Double Trouble.
Dan definitely nailed the Geppeto character
Always exciting to see a new CW video
Tree house of Horror reference when they captured the fairy 🤣 love it
Really glad so many people are catching this
Hooray, you're back! I hope I live to see the wolverine video. I've been waiting for 4 years. Thanks guys for the great job
On the list
I've been waiting for the Pinocchio episode for a while, and it definitely didn't disappoint
They are doing an Bugs Bunny episode next I can't wait. Also a great episode a little better than I expected actually. Some surprisingly great jokes thrown it was one of the better Disney episodes.
Thank you!
The "cropped" song is the best thing I've heard in a long time. 😂
Finished binge watching a week ago. So glad get to see this with some chilli cheese fries and BEER! 🍺
Cheers!
The Jonathan Taylor Thomas film isn’t a Disney remake, it was made by a different company
Another fantastic episode, and for a game that I didn't have any interest in back in the day, but now want to play because of you!
A new Console Wars episode?! Christmas came early this year!
Another great vid, guys. Thanks for everything you do.
There’s still so much left to cover. I surely hope you compare *Weapon Lord* and then fighting game exclusives, *Killer Instinct* vs. *Eternal Champions* or *Virtua Fighter 2* . Also, still wanting to see an episode comparing SHMUPS. Great games on both SNES and Genesis!
I’ll keep saying it until I see something.
Thunder Force 3 vs Thunder Spirits
@ hell yes! *Space Harrier 2* or *Burning Force* vs. *Axelay* . Honestly, *Burning Force* is my all time favorite Genesis game. Something about the design of it was just spectacular to me. Also, there isn’t a better Genesis soundtrack ever! It was the game that made me want a Genesis. I have it on Nintendo Switch, but it’s the arcade version rather than the Genesis version. Namco brought the game home to SEGA’s console in 1990 and most people have completely forgotten it. *Burning Force* is an obscure title, but it deserves some attention by some retro enthusiasts.
The same stuff can be said for *Axelay* for the SNES. The Mode-7 effects with enemy ships and obstacles coming over the horizon are absolutely incredible. The music was also great. Everything about this unique Konami shooter was groundbreaking, for the time.
*Axelay* and *Burning Force* are, to me, held in the highest esteem. They both capture the arcade shmup style that made gaming an absolute blast in the 90’s. They were both magical games from the 16-bit era and they are some of my favorite games to this very day.
I would LOVE to see a Console Wars video pitting these two games against one another.
Hey guys! Kind of a more general "Super NES vs. Sega Genesis" comment here - I love that you capture the community sentiments in your scripted debates! "That game is cropped" is a perfect example, or the way you script the audio debates - you always do your best to capture "this is what the Sega fans are thinking" and "this is the Super NES fans are thinking" and then you always do your best to go objective!
So, one thing I haven't noticed in any of your videos (and trust me I've been waiting!) is when Sega hits back with "Mode 7 looks awful though!" - or "Mode 7 is soo lame!" I remember all these comments from the Sega-16 forum days "I don't get how people aren't bothered by everything being flat" - "Mode 7 is just blurry and always controls awful" - "Mode 7 is so much lower resolution than the rest of the game and it lags" - "Somehow they never noticed that sprites only scaled in empty scenes, or that the screen throw in Turtles in Time is just a three frame animation, not Mode 7."
For example when we debated The Great Circus Mystery on forums back then, the Sega players always talked about how their exclusive level was better because it *did not* use Mode 7 and thus looked nicer on the eyes and played better. (I like that you tied gameplay for that game, because that felt objective - and that's probably the episode where it seemed most fitting to bring the old community arguments into the script for Graphics)
I always liked that Hyperstone Heist took out the 3D throw, because it was a huge buff for fighting. You WANT the slam throw because it protects you and hurts / kills the other enemies on screen. It was always an "uh oh" moment to get the 3D throw in Turtles 4 because you might get hit in an intense fight. The Genesis enemies being more aggressive likely had something to do with that decision because it's far more noticeable that the 3D throw leaves you very vulnerable.
I did Google around some and I see that these kind of Mode 7 dissenting arguments aren't exactly easy to find so maybe it's a case of "you had to be there" to know about these discussions back in the GameFAQs days, some of those quotes above are direct from Sega-16 forums while some are from memory. But I still hope this kind of classic community argument can find its way into a video in the future! :D
Thank you for still making these videos after so many years. You're still my favorite channel on UA-cam, both of these consoles deserve all the love and passion they get.
Saquon Barkley gonna break that all time rushing record?? : )
I’m so excited to see this Pinocchio episode!
Next episode hint is Bugs Bunny Rabbit Rampage (SNES) vs. Bugs Bunny Double Trouble (Genesis)
Also a new episode? WHAT?! THAT'S IT! ARE WE DOING THIS?!
Glad to see another episode from the console wars crew.
2:46 A Bad Boy Records pitch meeting.
lol
Great video and digging the details of both versions. Suggestions of future episodes are:
1. monopoly ( 1991 video game) ( SNES vs Genesis)
2. King of the monsters ( SNES vs Genesis)
3. King of the monsters 2 ( SNES vs Genesis)
4. Thomas the tank engine & friends ( 1993 video game) ( SNES vs Genesis)
5. Areo the Acrobat ( SNES vs Genesis)
6. Areo the Acrobat 2 ( SNES vs Genesis)
7. Zero the kamikaze squirrel ( SNES vs Genesis)
*HECK YEAH!! I'm early!!* ❤
We are so back!
Such an underrated channel, notoriously; also PUPPETS!!!!
Great to get some more of the deep Console Wars lore, curious to see where it'll go from here. But all in all another great episode about one of those games that, rightfully I feel, gets overlooked.
Thanks
Guys, by the Sock-Puppet Joke, I had almost tears in my eyes from laughing. Not only because of your texts, but also, because it looks so funny at all. Great again.
😂😂😂 you guys never cease to amaze me another great hilarious video! 😂😂😂
Glad you enjoyed it
damnit, now I have to go binge Sifl and Olly
Thanks a lot, CONSOLE WARS!
The 32X version is worth checking out....
Woo Hoo! Amazing! Astounding! Excellent! This might be the Best Console Wars Episode of 2024, and a perfect Episode to end 2024 with!
The Story! The Sketches! The Categories! The Actual Game! It was all perfect!
Love how balanced and not one-sided the Categories were, thus creating unpredictability for me and leaving me wondering "Which is Gonna Win?" throughout.
Great work on noting the Differences in Details in the Graphics and Sounds.
Liked hearing the contrasts when you pointed out the Missing Sound Effects and Bits of Music between each Version.
I was actually wondering if the Genesis Version would narrowly win because of the, um, "Respawn After Losing a Life Sequence" being skippable in that Version, unlike the SNES Version. Still, I guess that was just a minor thing, not big enough to break the Tie in the Gameplay Category.
Plus, I suppose the SNES Version usually being the cheaper Version is a good point too.
Oh, and this Episode's Story was Wonderful! Great use of Officer Pastrami here!
I was actually expecting a Pinocchio Puppet, or at least a Pinocchio Doll to be an actual Character with Lines in this Episode. Y'know like the Mickey and Minnie Mouse Dolls were Characters with Lines in your "Great Circus Mystery" Episode.
However, seeing as Officer Pastrami and Pinocchio are both Puppets, I believe putting Officer Pastrami in the Spotlight for this Episode was a Excellent Idea! Having the Pinocchio Video Game be the Subject of the Episode was a fine Excuse to give Officer Pastrami a "Day in the Limelight", as I think TV Tropes would call it.
I think the whole "Become Puppets to Be Immortal" was a nice idea for the, uh, Motivation or Driving Force of this Episode's Story. Also, I liked the Fairy and Geppetto you got for this Episode. The Fairy got at least a chuckle or two out of me? Were you trying to make her a "Discount Blue Fairy"? That was the impression I got, and I liked the result!
A few more things:
- Thanks for focusing on the "Being a Puppet" part of Pinocchio and not the whole "Nose Grows After Telling a Lie" thing. The Nose Thing isn't really that big a thing in Disney's Pinocchio, or Pinocchio in general, at least from what I gather. I did read the original story as told in a few children's' books, so it's not like Disney's Pinocchio is the only version of the story I know.
- Loved how to took some time to focus on the whole "Defeating/Killing the Coachman" thing, with a Mortal Kombat reference to go with it!
- Nice little touch including a reference to "Pinocchio's Revenge"! Nice to see you're not afraid to make obscure references!
- Loved the "Cropped" Song! Great way to make a Joke about how often the whole "SNES Version is Cropped" Point comes up!
Anyway, there's probably more I wanna say, but I think I've said enough for now.
Thanks so much for this Episode! Like I said earlier, I think this was a Perfect Episode to end 2024 with! I'd even say it ended the Year with a Bang!
I'm just a tad disappointed that the Episode to end 2024 in December wasn't for James Pond II : Robocod, a.k.a. Super James Pond, 'cause both Versions of that Game are Christmas-Themed.
Ah well, there's always Next Year! This Year's December Episode totally makes up for it.
Oh, and one more thing. That "Next Episode Hint" is easy! It's gotta be the Bugs Bunny Games, "Rabbit Rampage" for SNES and "Double Trouble" for Genesis.
Hey, I've been looking forward to seeing those Games being compared, so I guess I'll be waiting with bated breath!
Wow! Sure spent a long time Commenting! Thanks a Bunch for Everything!
Farewell for now! You Rock!!!
Thanks, I really appreciate you taking the time to write such a detailed comment. It was nice reading so many kind things
I was caught singing "Old Teen Wolf" while folding laundry and my Dad looked at me like I was the psycho. Lol
First person to timestamp the Treehouse of Horror gag wins a "smiling ghost" emoji.
Boo, you all lose. *hint Gym Socks .
I was looking forward to seeing both of you become puppets and do some kind of Mystery Science Theater 3000 reference.
Here in Portugal its 18h, cant wait
The episode has everything. Thanks guys.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The resolution increase in the sega game balances out the extra colours of the snes game that denote additional facts about the object (like the rocky protrusions, and roofing tiles).
hell yeah new console wars
I swear, the Sega Genesis soundtrack sounds like the Main Street Electrical Parade :O
why is SNES always so zoomed in and stretched and fuzzy?
can't they just get it right?
Right now I am wondering why most Genesis games have awful sound effects and similar sounding music to eachother.
Hint: BOTH ARE STRETCHED. The SNES version gets stretched horizontally while the Genesis version gets squashed, vertically stretched. Let´s thank the incredible NTSC video standard for not using square pixels 😆
That guitar caught me off guard 😂😂
Great episode
Thanks
The Sega has better color.
Pat: "just like all the other 90s Disney games"
My good man, have you ever played the two Beauty and the Beast games?
Watching with breakfast lets go!
It’s weird that the nom-skippable dying animation didn’t tip the gameplay scale to the Genesis side.
I only lasted one second before I had to post a meaningless comment! Ok, time to watch the rest, this is God's Award!
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I feel great to have requested this.
I have the SNES version, and I know it has the heart for Music and Presentation even if the genesis version has Wish upon a Star in the cutscenes similar to Toy Story on the Genesis. The game play is where the Genesis may have its advantages like screen resolution and better colors, but the Stromboli Stage may be the game's Achillies heel even if using the Six button controller. The SNES sings with great controls in all fronts.
I feel that Sega's colors pop a little more.
Ahh yes another edition of 'gods awards' - classic!
Love those subtitles
U'all forgot one thing in the graphics department. Sega's version is more colorful in contrast. It's what stood out to me every time I saw the comparison videos.
Great video fellas!
Do you guys still want suggestions? If so, I think an episode on Last Action Hero would be cool. It'd be one of those "Which one is worse" episodes and I imagine you could think up some really funny skits for it!
We did that one already!
@@ConsoleWars Really? It's nowhere on your channel. I just searched Last Action Hero on your channel with no results. Is it hidden?