View this chainsaw on the Homedepot website here; www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-60v-max-16-in-electric-cordless-chainsaw-2-5-ah-lithium-ion-battery-charger-included/1001586455 View it here on Toro USA www.toro.com/en/product/51850
A lot of pro's carry battery saws now. No, not to drop trees but to trim, top, buck, etc. They make perfect sense. And we won't even talk about a home user who may only use a saw 3-4 times a year. Better than gas going bad in the tank.
Until a new battery technology is found Li Ion batteries will only go up in price. Lithium is a finite mineral and can be recycled but it is currently in such high demand for a variety of technologies. If you have access to an outlet and are careful a corded saw is a much cheaper option. You’ll never have to buy an expensive battery.
That’s a small saw for light duty cutting but it does have its place. Many arborists use them now when they climb way up. They don’t have to pull to start the saw…safer. Not noisy, either. One drawback: if a storm knocks out power you can’t recharge a battery. Nice video, Don! It was great watching you buckin’ logs!!!
Nice demo. I own a brushless Ego Power 18" (45cm) chainsaw. I bought it with a 5Ah battery. It's perfect for cutting down small trees and trimming trees around my semi-wooded property. I'm slowly migrating from gas to battery-powered outdoor equipment.
I've got Dewalt's 20V pole saw and chainsaw along with a 43 and a 72 cubic inch gas saws. If the job is small enough for the electrics, I'll choose them first. You don't have the same noise and smell as with gas and if you are doing brush/branch work in the bush it is nice that the saw is OFF when you are moving about from place to place or moving branches out of the way to get to more cutting. They are only 20V so the gas saws get used for the bigger stuff. A pruning blade on a reciprocating cordless saw is also a great tool for trimming. Much cleaner cuts when you are trimming a live tree.
Wasn't expecting it to do very well. But it looked like it handled it. Still, say this is 'not' the go to for larger jobs. The batteries will be a concern. Seeing that they are 60v, expensive. If you don't already have Toro. That means now you have to buy chargers etc. Most guys run what they have. For instance. DeWalt, Makita, Millwakeee, & so on.
Perfect for the average homeowner on a small lot who needs a saw once or twice a year when a storm drops some limbs or knocks a small tree down. Not everyone needs a Farm Boss.
Seems like a good saw- I think this would be fine for noob homeowners and actually prevent a lot of those 'first chainsaws' from going into the landfill or scrap after they get accidentally abused or damaged. Or maybe for a more senior homeowner that still likes doing light yard work but doesn't want to fuss with gas and oil and fuel stabilizers. Some of us that already have a big saw and little (or climbing) saw wont be buying one anytime soon.
Electric or Gas, doesn't matter. It's the point to have the option, rather than a forced choice. I used to have an Electric (corded) lawn mower that suited me fine. I had to replace it when my wife was using it and cut the cord. She gave me a challenge that she would cut more often if it was a gas mower. I went out and bought one. 🙂 Momma didn't raise no fool. However, the point is that you get to use what you want to use for the job. Not less choice, more choice.
I know this is where the industry is trying to push towards. I'm on the fence, right now with it. While I do understand, the average person is waiting to pull the trigger and go this route. The batteries and chargers are expensive. Case in point, my father in law has an electric zero turn and is on a fixed budget. His actual charger went bad. The price to replace it is $700. To him, it's not affordable. To people who are elderly, it's not affordable. Most of the elderly I know are independent and choose to still take care of their own property. Your video, as always, was very good and very informative. Keep up the good work.
I have used the Ego 56v saw, and it was very impressive, chain speed made my head spin! This was 2 years ago, they now have a commercial line, that will impress, greenworks is making their mark as well.
That was very informative video, thanks a lot Dony, Electric gardening equipments are easier to use and more convenient for sure but nothing can replace the sound and smell of a two stroke engine in my opinion.
The nice thing about electric is no fuel to mix, it starts everytime, unless the battery is dead. For small jobs it’s fantastic, if it sits for a year no gas to go stale or carb to gum up. My next saw, trimmer or blower will be electric, just bought new gas equipment last few years so could be 15 years before I go electric,lol if we’re still here….
The more these become popular the more free gas saws will be found in free piles. Yes!! Although I'm a gas head I'd love to try one of these some day. Husqvarna just came out with one with a clutch which makes it safer since the direct drive models will chew through a pair of chaps in no time.
It won't be long before saws under 60cc will be replaced by electric saws. As a matter of fact Husqvarna is discontinuing they're lower cc gas saws. Great video.
I have a Makita saw that takes 2 18v batteries. It is the most similar to a gas saw with regards to safety features and performance. I use it frequently, but if I was going to be cutting big stuff all day, gas would be the way to go.
Hi donyboy. I've got McCulloch motor powered chainsaw and Makita electric chainsaw. Both of them are great and serve in their purpose just fine. I use the gas powered saw with bigger trees.
Battery powered certainly has it's place and advantages. So does corded electric, which shouldn't be forgotten as an option for some people. I have gas, battery, and corded, and I use all three. I have to admit that the gas powered chainsaws are the ones I reach for the most, because they're just more fun 🙂
I carry a small saw when cutting out trails for the ATV. This would be so much easier than yanking on a Stihl for 5 minutes every hundred yards of trail.
I have a Stihl Farm Boss 290 for cutting firewood. It works great but it's pretty heavy. I want an electric chainsaw for light cutting and taking it in our side by side when we go for a ride. This would be perfect for that. Todd from da Upper Peninsula of Michigan
I was thinking about Houston Texas and no electricity to charge up the electric chainsaw there 😢😢😢 Smart ones have gasoline saws and cans of premixed fuel for emergencies 😊
Hey Don was there any oil going on the chain because it looked kind of dry? And was there a grease hole on the chain sprocket at the end of the bar? I guess these are couple hundred dollars in the Divided states (U.S.) but that 7.5 h battery is $439.99 at Aubuchon hardware 😬 holy shizzle. Yes they may have a place alright. Just not mine 😊
This is going to trigger a lot of guys, but for the average homeowner user--which is about 90% of chainsaw buyers--, electric is absolutely the way to go. No bad gas, no gummed up carbs, no blown up saws from forgetting to mix gas, no stink, no smoke, no screaming noise, no hard starting , no flooding, the benefits are all there. Electric eliminates problems for the average user and makes using the tool easier. Now some Lumberjack wannabe is going to say he cuts 900 cords of firewood a year and no way is he using an electric saw. From his cold, dead hands, etc. Yes, yes, good for you. Electric isn't for you. We already established that. But for the thousands upon thousands that buy small saws for brush and occasional downed tree cleanup, electric is now the way to go. Donnie what you need to do is do a maintenance series on electric saws. Most of these will be new saw owners. Teach them how to tell when a chain is dull, spot a worn sprocket and bar, and clean the saw. Also very soon a wide variety of electric saws will have been on the market long enough to need the oiler overhauled.
If I needed to cut small limbs or brush I would just get my cordless Sawzall out that things a beast when it comes to cutting small limbs and 6 inch logs
Great video Dony ! Thankfully I don't have a need for a chainsaw but if I needed one for light firewood stuff, I would grab this one. I have the Toro Flex force line . I have the spring trimmer ,the lawn mower, the hedge trimmer and the blower. I got these in 2020 . I recently purchased another lawnmower. The self propel on the one I got in 2020 failed. It was a good bit more expensive than the one I got in 2020. The batteries have not gone down in price as far I can see. The walk behind mower cuts really well. However the bagger part leaves a lot to be desired. I don't think it has the speed of the gas engine to create enough suction. The string trimmer is great but the trimmer head is a pain. I thought about trying a speed feed 400 if I could figure out how to the old head off. I afraid that the 400 would be too much load and burn the motor up !
It seems to do well. I have a small Dewalt 12" chainsaw that works great. Did you notice any oil leaks Don? My Dewalt leaks a bit like all saws. I hope these makers will switch to LiFepo4 batteries as they are FAR superior to standard Lithium batteries. Safer and longer lasting.
My brother in law has a pacemaker, and his doctor told him no more welding and no gas chainsaws. Not sure why. So... He bought an electric one and loves it.
Morning donyboy73, I am still debating on a electric chainsaw, seeing what is the best. Live out no man's land. That's why I carry my ms 170 and ms 250 we have alot of power outages here during the winter. Awesome video 😊you have a great day young man. ❤🦅🦅🦅🙌🙏😄
Yeah I could see a use for this but when u live in Scotland like I do yeah I feel big brother aka the government is forcing battery cars & everything else my other point our price for electricity in our country is strataferic..... for charging etc & we also pay big time for petrol/gas ive got a ms180 dose all the fire wood I kneed so won't be swapping any time soon 👏👍
I have and occasionally use the original version that EGO marketed, I do not recall how long ago that was, maybe 10 years or so. I do not like its puny "pico" chains, but otherwise it is convenient and effective for small jobs. READ the manual to learn how to care for and STORE the batteries. They can be a fire hazzard and near impossible to extinguish.
I doubt the price on the batteries will come down. Government mandates about electrical machines will almost assuredly drive them up due to demand for the materials it takes to make them.
If I had a need for another chainsaw Don, I would certainly go t0 my local dealer and check further into this Toro chainsaw. My experience with Toro over my 44 years in the equipment rental, sales and service fields. has shown me that equipment from Toro is equipment that delivers both quality and durability. Yes there are other makes out there looking for our hard earned dollar, but I don't know of anybody who has been sorry for buying 'quality.
Hey mate. Not relevant to this video. I just checked valve lash on a 15 yr old 18 horse power briggs and Stratton. Little on the tight side, runs fine should I leave it alone or adjust… just tinkering.
I have a gas powered blower, and a 20v max battery powered blower, I go through 4 20v battery packs blowing my property, as compaired to 1/4 to 1/2 of a tank of 2 stroke, now until they can make a battery cheap and last as long as a tank of gas, I will be repairing or buying gas powered period, battery powered is a joke, rather it be the cyber truck, or this machine.
I think we are stuck in our old ways and just loving the smell of oil and gas, tinkering with our gas engines. But after seeing how this electro saw performs, I think I will be looking into one of those. However not electric cars, I will drive a small gasoline engined car but not electric. Cheers now!🐞
View this chainsaw on the Homedepot website here;
www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-60v-max-16-in-electric-cordless-chainsaw-2-5-ah-lithium-ion-battery-charger-included/1001586455
View it here on Toro USA
www.toro.com/en/product/51850
An Electric chainsaw is ok for small triming/pruning jobs. Gas chainsaw are the "go to" for major cuttiing jobs.
A lot of pro's carry battery saws now. No, not to drop trees but to trim, top, buck, etc. They make perfect sense. And we won't even talk about a home user who may only use a saw 3-4 times a year. Better than gas going bad in the tank.
Democrats Joe want to outlaw, gas equipment. Well and cars.
I really like the way that you seek a balanced viewpoint with the tools we use.
Works every 2 years when I need it. Quite also. St.Paul,Minnesota.
Until a new battery technology is found Li Ion batteries will only go up in price. Lithium is a finite mineral and can be recycled but it is currently in such high demand for a variety of technologies. If you have access to an outlet and are careful a corded saw is a much cheaper option. You’ll never have to buy an expensive battery.
Great demonstgration. I have used a chain saw around a dozen times in my entire life. From my perspective, this tool works pretty well!
That’s a small saw for light duty cutting but it does have its place. Many arborists use them now when they climb way up. They don’t have to pull to start the saw…safer. Not noisy, either. One drawback: if a storm knocks out power you can’t recharge a battery. Nice video, Don! It was great watching you buckin’ logs!!!
Nice demo. I own a brushless Ego Power 18" (45cm) chainsaw. I bought it with a 5Ah battery. It's perfect for cutting down small trees and trimming trees around my semi-wooded property. I'm slowly migrating from gas to battery-powered outdoor equipment.
I've got Dewalt's 20V pole saw and chainsaw along with a 43 and a 72 cubic inch gas saws. If the job is small enough for the electrics, I'll choose them first. You don't have the same noise and smell as with gas and if you are doing brush/branch work in the bush it is nice that the saw is OFF when you are moving about from place to place or moving branches out of the way to get to more cutting. They are only 20V so the gas saws get used for the bigger stuff. A pruning blade on a reciprocating cordless saw is also a great tool for trimming. Much cleaner cuts when you are trimming a live tree.
Wasn't expecting it to do very well. But it looked like it handled it. Still, say this is 'not' the go to for larger jobs. The batteries will be a concern. Seeing that they are 60v, expensive. If you don't already have Toro. That means now you have to buy chargers etc. Most guys run what they have. For instance. DeWalt, Makita, Millwakeee, & so on.
Perfect for the average homeowner on a small lot who needs a saw once or twice a year when a storm drops some limbs or knocks a small tree down. Not everyone needs a Farm Boss.
I had the option between this model and the echo. I chose the echo and i actually like it
Seems like a good saw- I think this would be fine for noob homeowners and actually prevent a lot of those 'first chainsaws' from going into the landfill or scrap after they get accidentally abused or damaged. Or maybe for a more senior homeowner that still likes doing light yard work but doesn't want to fuss with gas and oil and fuel stabilizers. Some of us that already have a big saw and little (or climbing) saw wont be buying one anytime soon.
Purchased stihl battery chainsaw about 3 years ago i had to go back to petrol saw. So maybe after improving don't know.
Electric or Gas, doesn't matter. It's the point to have the option, rather than a forced choice. I used to have an Electric (corded) lawn mower that suited me fine. I had to replace it when my wife was using it and cut the cord. She gave me a challenge that she would cut more often if it was a gas mower. I went out and bought one. 🙂 Momma didn't raise no fool. However, the point is that you get to use what you want to use for the job. Not less choice, more choice.
I know this is where the industry is trying to push towards. I'm on the fence, right now with it. While I do understand, the average person is waiting to pull the trigger and go this route. The batteries and chargers are expensive. Case in point, my father in law has an electric zero turn and is on a fixed budget. His actual charger went bad. The price to replace it is $700. To him, it's not affordable. To people who are elderly, it's not affordable. Most of the elderly I know are independent and choose to still take care of their own property. Your video, as always, was very good and very informative. Keep up the good work.
Agreed. Price is the big issue right now. But that will drop eventually. Remember trimmers were all corded or gas. That's changing real fast now.
I don’t hate electric lawn equipment but I still prefer gas powered ones but electric is easier for older people?
Like you Dony, I'll go with my gas saws!
I have used the Ego 56v saw, and it was very impressive, chain speed made my head spin! This was 2 years ago, they now have a commercial line, that will impress, greenworks is making their mark as well.
Right tool for the right job. All I would need.
Same here
That was very informative video, thanks a lot Dony, Electric gardening equipments are easier to use and more convenient for sure but nothing can replace the sound and smell of a two stroke engine in my opinion.
The nice thing about electric is no fuel to mix, it starts everytime, unless the battery is dead. For small jobs it’s fantastic, if it sits for a year no gas to go stale or carb to gum up. My next saw, trimmer or blower will be electric, just bought new gas equipment last few years so could be 15 years before I go electric,lol if we’re still here….
The more these become popular the more free gas saws will be found in free piles. Yes!! Although I'm a gas head I'd love to try one of these some day. Husqvarna just came out with one with a clutch which makes it safer since the direct drive models will chew through a pair of chaps in no time.
I watched the videos because of you I would never get a battery change saw I would always give you thumbs up thank you for the video
It won't be long before saws under 60cc will be replaced by electric saws. As a matter of fact Husqvarna is discontinuing they're lower cc gas saws. Great video.
I have a Makita saw that takes 2 18v batteries. It is the most similar to a gas saw with regards to safety features and performance. I use it frequently, but if I was going to be cutting big stuff all day, gas would be the way to go.
Hi donyboy. I've got McCulloch motor powered chainsaw and Makita electric chainsaw. Both of them are great and serve in their purpose just fine. I use the gas powered saw with bigger trees.
Battery powered certainly has it's place and advantages. So does corded electric, which shouldn't be forgotten as an option for some people. I have gas, battery, and corded, and I use all three. I have to admit that the gas powered chainsaws are the ones I reach for the most, because they're just more fun 🙂
Couple years ago I picked up a royobi saw and I love it. I already have a lot of tools and batteries so very convenient.
I carry a small saw when cutting out trails for the ATV. This would be so much easier than yanking on a Stihl for 5 minutes every hundred yards of trail.
A lot of hunters use electric.
I have a Stihl Farm Boss 290 for cutting firewood. It works great but it's pretty heavy. I want an electric chainsaw for light cutting and taking it in our side by side when we go for a ride. This would be perfect for that. Todd from da Upper Peninsula of Michigan
I was thinking about Houston Texas and no electricity to charge up the electric chainsaw there 😢😢😢
Smart ones have gasoline saws and cans of premixed fuel for emergencies 😊
Hey Don was there any oil going on the chain because it looked kind of dry? And was there a grease hole on the chain sprocket at the end of the bar? I guess these are couple hundred dollars in the
Divided states (U.S.) but that 7.5 h battery is $439.99 at Aubuchon hardware 😬 holy shizzle. Yes they may have a place alright. Just not mine 😊
It's impressive to me did a good job
Batteries... Burn so well. Better than Gasoline as they self-oxidize!
Impressive saw.
I like a 14 inch bar and chain . I cut up any size tree and electric saws are ok .
Pretty impressive. Thanks
This is going to trigger a lot of guys, but for the average homeowner user--which is about 90% of chainsaw buyers--, electric is absolutely the way to go. No bad gas, no gummed up carbs, no blown up saws from forgetting to mix gas, no stink, no smoke, no screaming noise, no hard starting , no flooding, the benefits are all there. Electric eliminates problems for the average user and makes using the tool easier.
Now some Lumberjack wannabe is going to say he cuts 900 cords of firewood a year and no way is he using an electric saw. From his cold, dead hands, etc. Yes, yes, good for you. Electric isn't for you. We already established that.
But for the thousands upon thousands that buy small saws for brush and occasional downed tree cleanup, electric is now the way to go.
Donnie what you need to do is do a maintenance series on electric saws. Most of these will be new saw owners. Teach them how to tell when a chain is dull, spot a worn sprocket and bar, and clean the saw. Also very soon a wide variety of electric saws will have been on the market long enough to need the oiler overhauled.
now you have to wait to charge it...i gas mine up in no time hate to know how much a spare battery cost
If I needed to cut small limbs or brush I would just get my cordless Sawzall out that things a beast when it comes to cutting small limbs and 6 inch logs
How do you like Sawzall?
Great video Dony ! Thankfully I don't have a need for a chainsaw but if I needed one for light firewood stuff, I would grab this one. I have the Toro Flex force line . I have the spring trimmer ,the lawn mower, the hedge trimmer and the blower. I got these in 2020 . I recently purchased another lawnmower. The self propel on the one I got in 2020 failed. It was a good bit more expensive than the one I got in 2020. The batteries have not gone down in price as far I can see. The walk behind mower cuts really well. However the bagger part leaves a lot to be desired. I don't think it has the speed of the gas engine to create enough suction. The string trimmer is great but the trimmer head is a pain. I thought about trying a speed feed 400 if I could figure out how to the old head off. I afraid that the 400 would be too much load and burn the motor up !
They can keep it 😊
It seems to do well. I have a small Dewalt 12" chainsaw that works great. Did you notice any oil leaks Don? My Dewalt leaks a bit like all saws.
I hope these makers will switch to LiFepo4 batteries as they are FAR superior to standard Lithium batteries. Safer and longer lasting.
No leaks yet!
@@donyboy73 Good!
I have too agree with you Don,
Much prefer my gas units,
It does appear there is a place for
electric chainsaws, just not my place, yet.
My brother in law has a pacemaker, and his doctor told him no more welding and no gas chainsaws. Not sure why. So... He bought an electric one and loves it.
👍
To mach room for the battery maybe you can put a bigger whan and last longer.
He did state that a bigger battery was available.
Morning donyboy73, I am still debating on a electric chainsaw, seeing what is the best. Live out no man's land. That's why I carry my ms 170 and ms 250 we have alot of power outages here during the winter. Awesome video 😊you have a great day young man. ❤🦅🦅🦅🙌🙏😄
Oregon makes the chain. I use a 6ah battery with mine.
Impressive.
I use a corded homelite for light used every now and then
A good combo with the Toro battery snowblower would be great for many but very pricey.
You can use this battery in a snowblower as well.
@@donyboy73 Yep, that's what makes the combo a good idea. And their mower.
Looks like it would be ideal for a senior citizen. But if you can't pull start a gas unit you probably shouldn't be using it.
Very good review.
Did the oil in the tank run down (empty) same time as when the battery died?
There was some oil left.
Ever notice the voltage keeps going up and the reliability keeps going through the floor!!!
Can you help me to locate the spark arrestor on my Stihl Ms 311 ?
It looks like you could really benefit from a sawbuck. Future video?
I have EGO model and it does what I need...if it was my profession or job, I would go with gas
Sounds like the beginning to Immigrant Song when first cutting!
I wish you had a video on a kohler rh265 carburetor linkage what a pain in the ass
Yeah I could see a use for this but when u live in Scotland like I do yeah I feel big brother aka the government is forcing battery cars & everything else my other point our price for electricity in our country is strataferic..... for charging etc & we also pay big time for petrol/gas ive got a ms180 dose all the fire wood I kneed so won't be swapping any time soon 👏👍
I agree that it is being forced on us!
When the new tariffs come into effect then the prices of those batteries will go sky high.
I have and occasionally use the original version that EGO marketed, I do not recall how long ago that was, maybe 10 years or so. I do not like its puny "pico" chains, but otherwise it is convenient and effective for small jobs. READ the manual to learn how to care for and STORE the batteries. They can be a fire hazzard and near impossible to extinguish.
I doubt the price on the batteries will come down. Government mandates about electrical machines will almost assuredly drive them up due to demand for the materials it takes to make them.
Good for the wife's roast beef
What has to stop is every brand having their proprietary batteries
how much for the small and big battery ?
try out an echo cs4510 chainsaw
If I had a need for another chainsaw Don, I would certainly go t0 my local dealer and check further into this Toro chainsaw.
My experience with Toro over my 44 years in the equipment rental, sales and service fields. has shown me that equipment from Toro is equipment that delivers both quality and durability.
Yes there are other makes out there looking for our hard earned dollar, but I don't know of anybody who has been sorry for buying 'quality.
I agree!
I do like how quiet they are. BUT.. Nah..
Batteries getting lows in cost, sure. BTW, I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY, USA I could sell you too... :)
My concern is the very high priced batteries/ chargers-- on all of this "Electric Revolution". What's the actual life of this stuff.
I still prefer my gas chainsaw. It’s just me.
And me. Love the fumes
Did I miss if Donyboy bought this himself, it's on loan for testing/review, or a donation or ?
I think electric is great where it makes sense. But when a tyrannical government keeps forcing evs on people I will resist.
Follow the $$$$; the technology isn't there yet, but Taxpayers are fleeced to subsidize investors.
Tyrannical..well said
Exactly.
What do EVs have to do with cordless power tools? Get triggered much?
Cutting continuously then gas. Time gaps between cutting then electric.
Hey mate. Not relevant to this video. I just checked valve lash on a 15 yr old 18 horse power briggs and Stratton. Little on the tight side, runs fine should I leave it alone or adjust… just tinkering.
I have a gas powered blower, and a 20v max battery powered blower, I go through 4 20v battery packs blowing my property, as compaired to 1/4 to 1/2 of a tank of 2 stroke, now until they can make a battery cheap and last as long as a tank of gas, I will be repairing or buying gas powered period, battery powered is a joke, rather it be the cyber truck, or this machine.
Lithium will get more expensive
No electric crap for me…
i feel gas is better
I think we are stuck in our old ways and just loving the smell of oil and gas, tinkering with our gas engines. But after seeing how this electro saw performs, I think I will be looking into one of those. However not electric cars, I will drive a small gasoline engined car but not electric. Cheers now!🐞