Well, obviously Mr Bayliss, was master in his craft. He made thousands of planes, which made another hundred of thousands furniture or utilitarian pieces. He was unique as every human. But nowadays, there're more and more followers of this awesome craft. Fortunately. Globalisation will end miserably someday. We need skilled craftsmen and passing their knowledge.
@@HeartPumper Well put, you tookthe words out of my mouth. Stavros does some really stunning stuff. I've been watching him for years. He's actually Polish. He now seems to have quite a following. But the gentleman above is just simply one of the "old boys"- who made history, and also were the pride of good old-fashioned firms like Marples and Sons. The deft speed at which he works is astounding- you can tell he can see the end result from the very beginning. That's what mastership is about.
Whenever I need inspiration and want to freshen up, I open it and watch this video. magnificent products made by great masters with their skilled hands and basic simple tools. we still use hand tools made by them. Thank you for sharing this beautiful documentation with us.
such a precise job and he works the wood like its nothing, all actions without a doubt and spot on. if you see this you realise, we cant do anything these days by hand compared to older generations
Wonderful - thank goodness there were people with the foresight to make those films. Anyone with an interest in wooden plane making should look out for the modern videos by Stavros Gakos. He makes beautiful planes by hand and his videos are excellent.
Wonderful old 8mm footage. A true craftsman at work. If you've never visited the Ken Hawley collection at the Kelham Island Museum in Sheffield, I can wholeheartedly recommend that you do. Their tool collection is incredible. The staff are incredibly helpful, and the displays are superb. Highlight of a visit is to see the 12,000 hp River Don steam engine working. Roll on the end of lockdown so we can visit again.
This was so interesting, it shines a new light for me on the making process of these tools. I have a collection of moulding planes, some are Georgian period most are Victorian era. Norman Bayliss is working with fantastic accuracy and efficiency using only hand tools, his techniques are a revelation cutting the mouth and throat then using a the brace for the mortice then a tapered saw to square the hole brilliant all by eye. Note the jig for holding the body while planing and squaring, much of this seemed effortless as a result of the familiarity with the the wood and the work. Thank you for posting this.
Lovely to watch. I still have Marples tools in my toolchest, some were my grandfather's and father's and others I bought myself. Those were the days when "Made in Sheffield" was a badge of quality.
Coming from the potteries I can tell you this, the things,items that I have seen thrown away in skips as the buildings have been levelled....enough to make you cry..love these uploads...now for ABIT if jack Hargreaves.
What astounding speed and accuracy this man demonstrates. Hugely impressive. I had no idea someone could work so quickly and accurately. I visited Sheffield from Canada 25: years ago. Perhaps I need to go again, just to see the Hawley collection.
@@nickyork8901 It probably slightly is, due to analogue cameras fps, to nowadays standards. But indeed he's quick, very. Muscle memory of thousands made pieces.
Beautiful to watch. So great that the techniques of a master craftsman have been captured on film, really interesting to see how the chap held his saws and planes.
One of my grandfathers was a gun smith and the other was as a delivery driver in the early 1900s in the US I never met them but the pictures I have of them are in my room/ small shop
I spent most of my youth playing in a joiners workshop amd i remember in the early 60s we had to help clear up the workshop and old tool chests of joiners who had retired or died were cleard out and full sets of wooden planes were used for firewood . I look back now and could kick myself
Looks like he had a heck of a collection of 'reverse moulding planes' used to cut the moulding plane profile. I wonder what happened to that unique collection? That man was so experienced that it would take him minutes to make what takes me all day to produce. So interesting to see his techniques and custom tools in action. Very impressive. Thanks for sharing!
I've wondered that too... But which came first, the moulding plane or the reverse moulding plane? I suppose there's a clever way to originate the shape accurately. Making the shape on an iron would be a straightforward matter of laying out the shape, filing, sharpening. But then how do you get that into the first plane bottom? I suppose you could get close with hollows and rounds, or have a plane set up without a shaped bottom like how a Stanley combo plane works?
It’s called a springing square. Set at the spring angle of the plane, which is the angle the plane is designed to be used against the work. Typically around 20 degrees. It allows marking up of the profile on the plane sole.
Hand made tools like this are still made in Japan for traditional craft men when factories like this close the skills are lost and we become more ignorant
I have quite a few of these moulding planes. I think they date back to around 1900. The have the carpenters name carved into them. It's sad in many ways that they are now redundant and routers are the easy way to produce these mouldings.
Anyone know if that is old-growth Beech? As in say 150-200 or 300 year old trees? I couldn't see the grain the the video; but I'm thinking that these days we wouldn't be able to easily find any Beech wood that is older than 25 or 30 years so much more pulpy stock now than was available then.
I'm a professional furniture maker in Norway and I regularly buy beech of excellent quality. I cannot say how old the tree was but it comes in beautiful, clear, wide planks, so it's no sapling. I hear your kind of moan / complaint often from non-woodworkers, basically telling me that the wood was so much better in the olden days. Have you done much restoration work ? Have you not seen the shitty wood the old timers sometimes used ?
I'm not familiar with Beech at all. I compare the quality of a given sample of wood by cutting a strip about 30 centimeters long and 5mm x 5mm in cross-section. Then it's strength and resilience can be easily evaluated by just bending it. In general the wood that is readily available in my area will fail this test as there will be only a single growth ring in the 5mm cross section and the wood itself was sawn from the pulpwood section of the tree rather than from the heartwood. This compares to the older growth where there could be five to six growth rings in the 5mm section, and all heartwood, and it can be bent into a half-moon shape without breaking, and will return to its straight form.
I have bought beech from B&Q even and it's very hard and durable, problem I found is it's hard to find quarter sawn stock which I think is what you need to make planes and such. I tried making something from what I bought and it moved a lot overnight after a bit of cutting and planing.
"Yes, we make all different types of moulding planes here at Hibernia Works; astragal, ovolo, cove, bead, reed, anything you want." "Great. Can I have a left handed one please?" "Errrr.........Noooo, we don't make cack-handed stuff here sir." "Oh.......okay then." Only problem with those things. But a true craftsman. All that skill, just killed off by router bits and cheap Chinese routers. Appalling shame.
We realise the quality of the video does not measure up to HD standards we are used to. However please remember the original is 8mm cine film taken in 1962 i.e. 60 years ago
The importance and value of these videos would escape most people’s attention. Thank goodness for your farsightedness. Excellent!👴🏻🇦🇺
There are lots of great videos out there that people see no importance in. Most people just want to see hollyweird entertainment movies.
no one will ever be skilled enough again to make moulding plane like this with speed and accuracy as Norman Bayliss could .
Not sure about the speed, but check out Caleb James (calebjamesmaker.com/). His work is amazing! I just wish I could afford to buy some 😀
@@darrenwheatley4677 Or Stavros Gakos here on YT.
Well, obviously Mr Bayliss, was master in his craft. He made thousands of planes, which made another hundred of thousands furniture or utilitarian pieces. He was unique as every human.
But nowadays, there're more and more followers of this awesome craft. Fortunately. Globalisation will end miserably someday. We need skilled craftsmen and passing their knowledge.
@@HeartPumper Well put, you tookthe words out of my mouth. Stavros does some really stunning stuff. I've been watching him for years. He's actually Polish. He now seems to have quite a following. But the gentleman above is just simply one of the "old boys"- who made history, and also were the pride of good old-fashioned firms like Marples and Sons. The deft speed at which he works is astounding- you can tell he can see the end result from the very beginning. That's what mastership is about.
@@musamor75 Haha following Stavros as well (he's my compatriot after all) 😆
My husband and I take our hats to this SUPERB filn. Very many thanks for preserving this outstanding film. Veronique
this is my friends grandpa!!
Whenever I need inspiration and want to freshen up, I open it and watch this video. magnificent products made by great masters with their skilled hands and basic simple tools. we still use hand tools made by them. Thank you for sharing this beautiful documentation with us.
such a precise job and he works the wood like its nothing, all actions without a doubt and spot on.
if you see this you realise, we cant do anything these days by hand compared to older generations
Wonderful - thank goodness there were people with the foresight to make those films. Anyone with an interest in wooden plane making should look out for the modern videos by Stavros Gakos. He makes beautiful planes by hand and his videos are excellent.
Wonderful old 8mm footage. A true craftsman at work. If you've never visited the Ken Hawley collection at the Kelham Island Museum in Sheffield, I can wholeheartedly recommend that you do. Their tool collection is incredible. The staff are incredibly helpful, and the displays are superb. Highlight of a visit is to see the 12,000 hp River Don steam engine working. Roll on the end of lockdown so we can visit again.
Wish I lived closer!
He takes such huge chunks of wood out with speed and precision. Without doubt hes made 100s (1000s?) of these in his career.
This was so interesting, it shines a new light for me on the making process of these tools. I have a collection of moulding planes, some are Georgian period most are Victorian era. Norman Bayliss is working with fantastic accuracy and efficiency using only hand tools, his techniques are a revelation cutting the mouth and throat then using a the brace for the mortice then a tapered saw to square the hole brilliant all by eye. Note the jig for holding the body while planing and squaring, much of this seemed effortless as a result of the familiarity with the the wood and the work. Thank you for posting this.
I’m really impressed for such confident cut and strike. Truly decent.
Skills of a bye gone era but is great to have been recorded in recognising a true craftsman.
Just beautiful and such a beautiful video to watch thank you
Emotional beautiful❤
Lovely to watch. I still have Marples tools in my toolchest, some were my grandfather's and father's and others I bought myself.
Those were the days when "Made in Sheffield" was a badge of quality.
So many little questions get answered in thtis video. Spoon bit makes so much since for the throat tunnel.
Gotta love the vices used!
Coming from the potteries I can tell you this, the things,items that I have seen thrown away in skips as the buildings have been levelled....enough to make you cry..love these uploads...now for ABIT if jack Hargreaves.
What astounding speed and accuracy this man demonstrates. Hugely impressive. I had no idea someone could work so quickly and accurately. I visited Sheffield from Canada 25: years ago. Perhaps I need to go again, just to see the Hawley collection.
I thought it must have been speeded up, but having looked again more carefully I think not.
@@nickyork8901 It probably slightly is, due to analogue cameras fps, to nowadays standards. But indeed he's quick, very. Muscle memory of thousands made pieces.
they had to be fast they got paid for every plane they made not by the hour
Thank you !
Thank you! Absolutely brilliant!
glad i found this video.
respect !!! gorgeous video. thank you for sharing. 60 years ago, an artisan and his amazing skills. i loved !!!
Pure GOld !! thanks for sharing
Beautiful to watch. So great that the techniques of a master craftsman have been captured on film, really interesting to see how the chap held his saws and planes.
Intuitive skills,near impossible to teach without the pupil too, having similar instincts!
Imagine Antonio Stradivari being filmed as he made his violins .
I found it quite sad, history, like a requiem.
One of my grandfathers was a gun smith and the other was as a delivery driver in the early 1900s in the US I never met them but the pictures I have of them are in my room/ small shop
Wonderful!
I spent most of my youth playing in a joiners workshop amd i remember in the early 60s we had to help clear up the workshop and old tool chests of joiners who had retired or died were cleard out and full sets of wooden planes were used for firewood . I look back now and could kick myself
What sort of square is that he is using? The one with two metal blades and a wooden reference/guide?
Pura vida amazing woodworking talent and great job I want toe know if he was filmed at marples factory let me know guys pura vida
I'm curious as to how the blades for these moulding planes would have been formed and sharpened.
Me to ,that’s were the skill is .
@@tonywright8294 without the perfect wood profile the blade is useless. the skill is with both. planemaking is one of the most precise jobs out there.
Looks like he had a heck of a collection of 'reverse moulding planes' used to cut the moulding plane profile. I wonder what happened to that unique collection?
That man was so experienced that it would take him minutes to make what takes me all day to produce. So interesting to see his techniques and custom tools in action. Very impressive. Thanks for sharing!
The Hawley Collection has all the reverse moulding planes from the William Marples works
they are called "Mother" planes ♡
I've wondered that too... But which came first, the moulding plane or the reverse moulding plane? I suppose there's a clever way to originate the shape accurately. Making the shape on an iron would be a straightforward matter of laying out the shape, filing, sharpening. But then how do you get that into the first plane bottom? I suppose you could get close with hollows and rounds, or have a plane set up without a shaped bottom like how a Stanley combo plane works?
That bevel gage!! Never seen!
I see them here in the US at antique shops locally
elijah williams go look again
It’s called a springing square. Set at the spring angle of the plane, which is the angle the plane is designed to be used against the work. Typically around 20 degrees. It allows marking up of the profile on the plane sole.
Hand made tools like this are still made in Japan for traditional craft men when factories like this close the skills are lost and we become more ignorant
I have quite a few of these moulding planes. I think they date back to around 1900. The have the carpenters name carved into them. It's sad in many ways that they are now redundant and routers are the easy way to produce these mouldings.
I wonder how many planes he could make in a day.
Anyone know if that is old-growth Beech? As in say 150-200 or 300 year old trees? I couldn't see the grain the the video; but I'm thinking that these days we wouldn't be able to easily find any Beech wood that is older than 25 or 30 years so much more pulpy stock now than was available then.
I'm a professional furniture maker in Norway and I regularly buy beech of excellent quality. I cannot say how old the tree was but it comes in beautiful, clear, wide planks, so it's no sapling. I hear your kind of moan / complaint often from non-woodworkers, basically telling me that the wood was so much better in the olden days. Have you done much restoration work ? Have you not seen the shitty wood the old timers sometimes used ?
I'm not familiar with Beech at all. I compare the quality of a given sample of wood by cutting a strip about 30 centimeters long and 5mm x 5mm in cross-section. Then it's strength and resilience can be easily evaluated by just bending it. In general the wood that is readily available in my area will fail this test as there will be only a single growth ring in the 5mm cross section and the wood itself was sawn from the pulpwood section of the tree rather than from the heartwood. This compares to the older growth where there could be five to six growth rings in the 5mm section, and all heartwood, and it can be bent into a half-moon shape without breaking, and will return to its straight form.
I have bought beech from B&Q even and it's very hard and durable, problem I found is it's hard to find quarter sawn stock which I think is what you need to make planes and such. I tried making something from what I bought and it moved a lot overnight after a bit of cutting and planing.
Fresh beech!
I'm getting RSI watching this fellow go.
Quality you will never get from china
Chinese have a really ancient culture. If they want they would be capable of great accuracy
@@haisamjab "they just choose not to be accurate because they dont want to that's why...."
@@jaydwy8069 I agree
Chinese and Far Eastern woodworking crafts are as good as any anywhere
todays people are stuck in router bits and cannot even do a simple SH.. IT work.....
Imagine just how tedious and frustratingly boring it must have been to be doing just this: all of your life...
"Yes, we make all different types of moulding planes here at Hibernia Works; astragal, ovolo, cove, bead, reed, anything you want."
"Great. Can I have a left handed one please?"
"Errrr.........Noooo, we don't make cack-handed stuff here sir."
"Oh.......okay then."
Only problem with those things. But a true craftsman. All that skill, just killed off by router bits and cheap Chinese routers. Appalling shame.
very poor quality of video
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@@KenHawleyCollectionTrust OK
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This video is a priceless archive for future generations. Thank you so much for preserving it and making it available to the world.