5:53 for a second there I thought “why not just jump over the hitbox and land on him with something?” Then I remembered why you don’t jump against potemkin
Oh don't worry, you can just block heat knuckle, it only leaves you stunned long enough for garudo pressure to restart or gets you kara potbustered. So it's fine /j
They gave pot Gabriel's pre-workout mix and took off his limiter collar. Potemkin wants his mix back and his collar back he's breaking too many pencils.
I'm a Chipp main which is already not a great start but I managed with potemkins fine in the past until I got disrespected like no else before. Essentially what had happend was I did my full screen super hoping to catch him instead he STOOD THERE, 6P CLASHED MY SUPER TWICE AND THEN HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTERED ME. I still haven't recovered
I had a similar reaction, as a Testament main, to a Pot that would use Hammerfall while stained, armor through something like f.S, 2H, or even S Arbiter, and consistently Hammerfall Brake to armor though the stain pop. I was fucking devastated. Even if there was counterplay I was too psychologically damaged to find it.
@ at least this time his zoning tools have some counterplay - Flick: just don't send projectiles at him - Slidehead: jump (best to IAD jump-in, don't wanna get clipped by 6P, HK or HPB!) - Big Ass Normals: 2S is vulnerable to 6P (yes, really), 6H and 5D, while big, are more than reactable, but don't get *too* close with a commital option, lest you get grabbed
Arc System made him pay for his Accent Core sins in Xrd. Then for this patch they remembered how Potemkin was in the first Guilty Gear and now we're seeing what they made to compensate that.
@@mrdeun3655 Damn! I mixed versions! My dumb brain =^= THAT Pot is what I was talking about. My poor boy in Xrd had to pay for his Accent Core sins... Understandable tho
Btw, you guys talking about specifically Accent Core +R, the revision made him the beast that he was, default Accent Core he was kinda mid (derogatory)
My teachers did not need me to say anything for that, they did a really good job encouraging everyone else to be an asshole to me without even sayng a word
@@acemaison2834 Pot definitely needed a rework and Ram was due for one anyway. They just dialed it too high because they listened to whiners and a bug respectively.
Well it's when said hug has 5 frames of start up, has (some) armor, beats everything except back dash and jump, deals bullshit damage, great round start option, has ridiculous range WITHOUT KARA CANCEL, can be Roman Canceled INTO EVEN MORE DAMAGE, and all the other bullshit players have to deal with when fighting Potemkin.
Hi hello, Potemkin player since Season 2 here, this is indeed a bit too much. We do not, in fact, need armored kara PB, as funny as it is to have it, and we probably don't need buffed Garuda Impact either. Grapplers aren't supposed to be good, they're supposed to be funny.
I don't know why the giga buffed that handler. I play testament so it's always been a hellish matchup but right now the pot literally has to have their monitor off for me to win. Even when they know literally nothing about what I'm doing they can drool on the stick and win from one interaction
All my years of playing Heavies in fighting games have led to this moment. Where MY character is the best. All the years of playing bottom tier for the memes, was worth it. And I can still meme with Pot. Best patch ever
Round start kara pot buster hits on frame 7-8 (gains armour frame 6-7) so it beats 6 frame moves when done frame perfectly. Also you can hold back on round start to walk out of kPB range while still blocking.
I already liked seconds in, finally someone says it: but also I think Grapplers in general are on the up and up, even in SF6 Gief got a lot of buffs over Season 2's timespan.
@@PunkRockGamer-824 for some reason they seem to hate their new characters, most of them have not been all that good since release. Manon, Jamie and Lily have been low pretty much since the start.
I need to be clear, we pot community never asked for such drastic changes, yes hes busted now but we just play the character we like, potemkin is the reason i started playing strive in the first place, so please, for the love of god stop hating on us (I'm not talking to you gekko just to the people that harass us because we play the character we like)
While actually showing a patch note with litterally 5 lines of dmg nerfs of his most used moves aside Kara back. It can be considered as not enough, but it's visualy weird to say didn't nerf while showing the patch note. And PB is not a 5 frame armor move at start when used with Kara, but it's more spectacular to say it this way for people.
@@raven_knight_076 It can't be compared to Potemkin dmg loss. Not a single other dmg loss for another character has been this much for this patch. And I'm not saying he didn't deserve it. Just that it can't be compared to others, so it's still a nerf in dmg.
Really needed a bit more time on that rework for him. But, for what its worth, i understand the vision they were going for and was interested to see where no kara's Potemkin would go from here..... then he got Kara's back and now he's absolutely disgusting. If hes gonna get kara's back, he needs to be brought back to season 3, end of story Also, not gonna lie, I like Armor on Pot buster. Considering how many of you mash on us to stay away from Pot buster and how many of you succeeded, ate a close slash or ate Garuda, i hope they keep it.
If you want to beat roundstart kara potbuster and literally most of pot's roundstart options just microwalk back then press down back. Covers pb, 2p, 2d etc
As a Pot player who really enjoys both his previous and current iterations, I wanted to give some thoughts. Ftr I think this character is certainly strong, but I do think some of his moves have weaknesses compared to before S4. I think that Garuda should have pushback, yet should not be reverted to a strike. The projectile made it deal significantly less chip damage and, most notably, risc gain. Before it built 20 risc on block and stole a lot of meter, not it doesn’t cost much to FD and only builds a pixel now, and I think the risc gain was potentially better than the pushback. I still think this should have forced pushback, just not a full reversion (I also like the blockstun speed much more now) PB is…weird. I definitely think it’s crazy good, but I feel most times it’s kind of just encouraging both players to return to round start. Some characters have options to cover it, but it is definitely a lot. I also believe that the range buff was standardizing the range it had over later frames, as it would expand over the course of the frames and is now just 2 versions (maybe slightly bigger). Walk back does snuff it, and it’s a safe bet to take, but I’d still prefer if they slightly nerfed the range a bit to eliminate that while still keeping it as a read off an opponent’s dash or off a walking buffer. The difference in kara momentum keeps it pretty much the same everywhere else. The big nerf I’d like to see is to make throws not stall out the RC penalty timer, since that’d keep Pot’s uses of meter but it’d be true hard costs, as he can meter battery really hard off just one good call, and I think it’s one of his best traits right now. I do like the S4 direction for Pot, and feel that even with kara changes it still feels very similar, but a couple of smaller nerfs like that would be absolutely fine as I’d mentioned earlier
My friends and I started strive this season actually, and one of them wanted to play pot cause he's a funny grappler. To say I hate fighting him is an understatement
As a Pot main, he was fine before the patch. Kara cancel worked wonderfully in making Pot both still relevant in high rank matchs, and not too overpowered and difficult to deal at low levels (since no low levels knows kara). They then made Pot unbeatable at low levels and a put shittier, and worst, not that fun version to use at high levels. And after he got kara back idk because I was in my time off Strive, but it appears that he is crushing everyone, which is awesome!!! THE POT BROS STAYS WINNING!!! A TUBE OF GLUE FOR EVERYONE, LETS CELEBRATE!!!
Oh they reverted all the buffs they gave him (they mostly compensated with damage and the tick of armor on pot buster) reduced damage on every single move that was buffed on the patch and even took away the insane hurtbox he had on flick (deserved tbh) but yeah it's literally a worse version of the Slayer patch pot (IMO since he has much lower damage and tools compared to Slayer patch pot)
@@gabrielst527 Actually, the hurtbox they extended was laughable because it was only half of his new hitbox. So your strike needed to be deeper than the ocean to hit him. At tip range? Not so much. The most criminal buff was KBMF. While it was no longer a good combo tools, it was a good ass defensive and pressure tool because my GOD they forgot to change the frame data. Now KBMF went from -2 to +1 on block. For Pot, it is a TICK THROW GALLORE. You gave Pot a 0 on block back in AC+ and +R was already a problem (2S>HFB used to be ZERO ON BLOCK!!!!)
@ That's a meme bro. Previous KBMF allowed you to one shot ky from 1C.S and a half worth of risk. Nobody uses the new KBMF since you can option select it on reaction and jump FD it to beat every single option.
I am basically a passenger of strive, I’ve been with it since the beginning and it was the first fighting game I ever even TRIED to get better at. With the state of the game rn, at my horrible, bad player level. I have dropped the game. I love guilty gear as an IP but this season will need to do something insane to get me back, tho it’s not like I’m that important but still.
On the one hand: WOOO YEAH TOP-TIER POT FINALLY IT'S BEEN YEARS On the other: As a Pot player I am VERY used to being in positions where I'm not having any fun fighting my opponent - usually because the tools ASW decided should be used against them simply aren't available to Pot (dashblock, air dash, etc). I am sad that now Pot is that character for others... in a more legitimate way at least. People have been complaining about fighting Pot for years but for the vast majority of that time it was legitimately just a skill issue. Changes I think would POTentially help reign him in: System: FRC has half meter gain penalty after use. Not the full meter penalty, but also not getting back nearly the entire thing after 1 buster. Stats: -15% burst meter. -10% tension gain on getting hit/blocking. -20% tension gain for Pot Buster and Heat Knuckle Specials/Overdrives Below Pot Buster: 145 damage, revert base range to Season 3, keep armor - Makes triple-bustering only kill Chipp, Millia, HC, and Zato. It currently kills almost the whole roster. Also, reverting the range is just a QOL change for the opponent. May make the difference between getting grabbed or not in some scenarios. KBMF: special Kara property of being -1 on block again Garuda Impact: special Kara property of being a strike. Increase the FD pushback multiplier it used to have (similar to what they did for Sol f.slash) Giganter Kai: Increase R.I.S.C. loss on hit from 1000 -> 1500. This will reduce the damage done by a picked-up combo by a good bit, while hopefully still keeping it worth using. I'm no balance designer but this may at least bring him more in line with how he's "supposed" to feel.
Good topic & info. I sub him, but am not good at karas. Usually try to avoid him in vs thanks to the avatar picture, especially if the player lv or floor lv (Park) is much higher. Can't avoid him in 3 v 3, though. Nice vid.
Arc system on the last patch = "We nerfed potemkin entire buffs from the previous patch (even reducing the damage more than it was before the damage patch) and kept the nerfs to all the moves, then we added kara again" Streamers and community for some reason = "pOtEmKiN gOt bUfFeD AgAiN!!?!?!?"
too be real if you get hit with kara buster round start its a skill diff all you do is hold back if he does kpb or heat tackle or mega fist you win round start
To play devils advocate a little. They may not have nerfed pot when they added karas back because they wanted to see how it performs first and if they even *would* need to do major changes (they do)
let us have this one patch to roam free, like treating a dog to one last nice day before we are put down. dear lord the nerfs are coming, but the sun still shines and we are happy.
Hey, ASW is the same company that created Sailor Uranus aka the BEST GRAPPLERS OF ALL TIME. AC+ Pot existed, CP Tager existed. It's not just Z Broly that was the OG Ultra Steroid grappler with absurd speed and power, ya know.
Yea.. been playing Pot since day 1. When i saw the season 4 trailer and the armor on buster, i went: "Nope! Thats too much!". I prefer my character to be in the struggle tier.
@@FroakSouls because getting hit by him feels unavoidable most of the time rather than a "I didn't play well" of course the reality is probably that I didn't play well, but to what extent? I hate ram as well for the record but I love sol bad guy (and I play ky kiske)
The weird thing about this vid is that it's acting like Pot mains as a collective actually agreed with ArcSys' changes. Almost every pot main under the Sun complained about the kara changes, and most thought "what were they thinking" with the reversal. Most people agreed that Season 3 Pot was in a good spot and didn't need massive buffs
That's because they are dumb. Kara is a terrible garbage of a mechanic that should've been removed season 1 when it was discovered Pot can't do the most basic level offense without it. Especially on a character who's competitive viability does not warrant a technical mechanical barrier like Chaos or Asuka. +19 that you can't do anything with is pathetic.
The weird thing about this vid is that this mf straight up lies multiple times and almost nobody talks about it in comments. Like initial changes made him weaker and most top pots were struggling Or the fact that he got multiple nerfs and two of them specifically to pb and kara pb.
Just finished fighting my friend who only went pot with 300 hours in game total when I just installed the game and after 2 hours I finally one a 4 round match and got 20 dollars I had a thought maybe he was a little crazy 💔
Funny thing, before they removed karas I wondered and had a debate with a incredibly small group of people under the dizzy patch release video, and I brought up removing the armor property from kara potbuster. It was mostly agreed upon, and we moved on as if it was simply common sense. I guess this is what happens when common sense is ignored in favor of rushing a patch.
I love season 4 potemkin and would rather not have him nerfed, but if it must happen, just make kara'ed moves act like before the patch. Kara buster? Sure, but you get the old smaller range and no armor. That way Arcsys and pot mains can have their cake and eat it too: Karas aren't essential anymore, but you can still use them like the good old days
Season 2 Pot player here, and I completely agree. I personally didn’t care that Potemkin got buffed in season 4, mostly because I found him to be way more boring compared to before. And while I’m happy that he’s got his kara-cancels back, he’s completely absurd at the moment. I don’t think that armored buster should exist, and Garuda should have pushback again.
Honestly, as a pot main, I kinda want him to be mid. I want to have the widest, evilest grin on my face when I outplay my opponent. My "lol armor" grin has staled
He actually has insane recovery in every single move except 5P and flick, use that to your advantage and whiff punish. I know it's hard since all the other characters are mostly unpunishable cause of their recovery (most serious offender is Sol)
This comment section is sending me bruh. I don't even play GGST myself anymore, I just watch matches here and there, and Gekko because I love his enthusiasm. THESE COMMENTERS ARE MAD SALTY, AND SAD, and I wholeheartedly agree THAT A GRAB CHARACTER SHOULD NOT BE TOP TIER!
As someone who has reached celestial and has 400 hours on pot as a one trick, they should not have made him easier to play. Its fun for a bit for how strong he is but in the end this season isn't gonna end up good for him or his opponents in any way, he was alright before aside from one or two headaches but now he's probably gonna get taken out back and shot next balance patch.
as a pot player from prepatch they actually made certain karas a lot harder with the new inputs on the K button. obviously KHT and Kflick dont work anymore but we lost KHK because of the overlapping input as well as made KBMF and KGaruda significantly harder as a result of the new flick input. i personally havent been able to get back into the groove of new KPB because i play on controller and inputted it as half circle back, half circle forward and now that overlaps with heat tackle. i dont know why they changed the inputs for pot, plenty of characters have a quarter circle and a double quarter circle and while heat tackle was inconsistent at times half circle forward S was open. as for flick i have to assume the issue was with the new HPB input, which again was ENTIRELY UNNECESSARY. i dont like new pot, i think most of the changes were pretty bad, and i just want old pot back. we shouldnt have armored PB thats fucking stupid.
I have not watched the video, but I know full well why I hate playing against him: Because the ENTIRE gameplay is him defending, biding his time until he gets a chance to do the most degenerate kara cancel shit into a combo that deals 90% of my bar.
It'd be nice if he had the gigantor Kai follow up again, dunno why they removed it. ALSO, does anyone find it strange that after Pot uses "HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTAAAAAAAAAH!!!" when he chucks you it counts as a hit but does 0 Damage?😆like wtf?
Giganter is pretty different in Strive compared to older games. It's way less of a reversal and just kinda either locks the opponent down for a mix or lets you walk forward with swagger. Gigant bullet wouldn't really do anything aside from knock them out of the barrier again. What I want is for it to actually consistently stop projectiles. I shouldn't loose the barrier just cuz a gunflame hit me frame 1
Yeah, my intrest in playing Strive has completely disappeared with the way Pot is rn. Guess ima just keep playin Marvel Rivals since their Devs actually can somewhat balance a game
Now you see, I also play pot, but unlike most of the other pot players, I never looked up a guide, didn't know what kara cancel was, and barely use hammerfall nor pot buster cus it's too inconsistent for me. (Yes, I picked up the game, saw big robot looking guy, decided to main him.) In fact, I just spam the neutral combo whenever I can cus I don't know any other combos nor how to roman cancel. What's crazy is that I'm in floor 7 and it's working. Though after this video, I think I now understand why a lot of people try to dodge me whenever I try to challenge. I most likely won't change my strategy to this, cus even I find it stressful to do all those inputs, and it's just more fun playing it intentionally by how the game sees Potemkin imo.
Ok so I haven't been following Strive after the pot rework. I was super against them removing kara cancel so I went into this video expecting to see the new no kara pot. Boy, am I so wrong. What is Arcsys cooking oh my god 💀
As a Pot main, I'd like to say that, even with these crazy buffs, I still manage to lose a lot of matches lol Jokes aside, I gotta admit that he needs some nerfs. I'm not a master at kara cancelling, since I barely have time to play games, but I can't stand having to switch characters every time I play online due to people avoiding my main for being extremely overpowered. Nobody's having fun now.
your audio leans to the left. i had to check to make sure it wasn't my headphones. i am interested in the video but this bothers me enough that i am not going to watch it, sorry :(
You're over-egging the pudding, my man. most times "why you hate fighting potemkin" boils down to that person just not liking grapplers. This is pretty much universal. I know you in particular really dislike grapplers so regardless of what state he's in, you'd hold the same opinion. I'm definitely not saying he's weak or anything but some of this is too much. Round start Kara buster was always a thing, of course the armour makes it scarier, but you went from saying "you can't do *anything* at round start" to "you can only back dash and jump round start" which are legit options. Actually easier to deal with than Nago round start dp + follow up/Dp into Beyblade which i don't think anything beats.
I seen enough nerf zato
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As a zato main pls nerf him
5:53 for a second there I thought “why not just jump over the hitbox and land on him with something?” Then I remembered why you don’t jump against potemkin
Oh don't worry, you can just block heat knuckle, it only leaves you stunned long enough for garudo pressure to restart or gets you kara potbustered. So it's fine /j
5k jump cancel is a pretty universal option to beat his
@@azurewings0033HK guard crush isn't long enough for garuda, you're at worst -10
They gave pot Gabriel's pre-workout mix and took off his limiter collar. Potemkin wants his mix back and his collar back he's breaking too many pencils.
I'm a Chipp main which is already not a great start but I managed with potemkins fine in the past until I got disrespected like no else before. Essentially what had happend was I did my full screen super hoping to catch him instead he STOOD THERE, 6P CLASHED MY SUPER TWICE AND THEN HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTERED ME.
I still haven't recovered
Oh my gosh… that’s vile… even as a Pot Main myself
That's disrespect in it's purest form, my condolences
I had a similar reaction, as a Testament main, to a Pot that would use Hammerfall while stained, armor through something like f.S, 2H, or even S Arbiter, and consistently Hammerfall Brake to armor though the stain pop.
I was fucking devastated. Even if there was counterplay I was too psychologically damaged to find it.
I used 6P vs sol. He decided to DP but clashed, then I had a heavenly moment.
Arcsys in fact did not learn their lesson after z broly.
THE BEST ZONER IN THE GAME IS A FUCKING GRAPPLER
They learned it, and they decided to do it more
Hah! Funny that someone made a video that Pot Armored Grab is inspired from Clark from KOF. Make sense actually
@ at least this time his zoning tools have some counterplay
- Flick: just don't send projectiles at him
- Slidehead: jump (best to IAD jump-in, don't wanna get clipped by 6P, HK or HPB!)
- Big Ass Normals: 2S is vulnerable to 6P (yes, really), 6H and 5D, while big, are more than reactable, but don't get *too* close with a commital option, lest you get grabbed
Arc System made him pay for his Accent Core sins in Xrd. Then for this patch they remembered how Potemkin was in the first Guilty Gear and now we're seeing what they made to compensate that.
And also they forgot how Potemking was in Accent Core... jesus
@@mrdeun3655 Damn! I mixed versions! My dumb brain =^= THAT Pot is what I was talking about.
My poor boy in Xrd had to pay for his Accent Core sins... Understandable tho
Btw, you guys talking about specifically Accent Core +R, the revision made him the beast that he was, default Accent Core he was kinda mid (derogatory)
They should just buff Pot and nerf Zato. You know what, they should give Eddie to Pot and remove him from Zato's kit.
Arcsys is that one teacher at school u avoid telling them any problem because they always find some way to make it worse .
My teachers did not need me to say anything for that, they did a really good job encouraging everyone else to be an asshole to me without even sayng a word
@@Ferrari255GTO just like arcsys does , we didn’t need a rework for Ram and pot but yet they made it worse anyways
@@acemaison2834 true, true
@@acemaison2834 Pot definitely needed a rework and Ram was due for one anyway. They just dialed it too high because they listened to whiners and a bug respectively.
i dont know why people hate fighting me, i just want to give them a hug
Do u have insurance ? Unless u do then I wouldn’t recommend
Well it's when said hug has 5 frames of start up, has (some) armor, beats everything except back dash and jump, deals bullshit damage, great round start option, has ridiculous range WITHOUT KARA CANCEL, can be Roman Canceled INTO EVEN MORE DAMAGE, and all the other bullshit players have to deal with when fighting Potemkin.
@@CM_M_M_YT it's a very violent and inescapable hug, but a good hug nonetheless
oof ouch my spine
Indeed. Hugging is very therapeutic and very nice. Especially when its from my big boy Potemkin.
Pot Buster makes the same effect as drugs
Hi hello, Potemkin player since Season 2 here, this is indeed a bit too much. We do not, in fact, need armored kara PB, as funny as it is to have it, and we probably don't need buffed Garuda Impact either. Grapplers aren't supposed to be good, they're supposed to be funny.
as a pot main. Its the glue bro im telling you
I don't know why the giga buffed that handler. I play testament so it's always been a hellish matchup but right now the pot literally has to have their monitor off for me to win. Even when they know literally nothing about what I'm doing they can drool on the stick and win from one interaction
I appreciate your video essays. Thanks for making them.
As a Potemkin main, the season 4 steroids changed him. What happened to my boy.
can we have kara heat knuckle back
So what your saying is we should have amorclad faith
I've never been zoned so hard by a grappler
All my years of playing Heavies in fighting games have led to this moment. Where MY character is the best. All the years of playing bottom tier for the memes, was worth it. And I can still meme with Pot. Best patch ever
Round start kara pot buster hits on frame 7-8 (gains armour frame 6-7) so it beats 6 frame moves when done frame perfectly.
Also you can hold back on round start to walk out of kPB range while still blocking.
Oops 2d.
@@andrewb7104 micro walk back and low block or die i guess
Most 6 frame moves do not reach round start anyways. It's mostly just 7 frame 5Ks that do that.
I already liked seconds in, finally someone says it: but also I think Grapplers in general are on the up and up, even in SF6 Gief got a lot of buffs over Season 2's timespan.
I pray 2XKO does not follow this trend.
Then again, the alternative is an Ahri meta, so you know what, fuck it, let's buff Braum.
Manon still needs help, I don't like the slow grapplers so Manon is all I got, from what I see she could still use quite a lot of help
@@dragonmaster3030 Ah right, Manon… nearly forgot her, but yeah she needs a lot of help.
SF6 gief is still miserable. That's not even counting characters like Lily or Manon
@@PunkRockGamer-824 for some reason they seem to hate their new characters, most of them have not been all that good since release. Manon, Jamie and Lily have been low pretty much since the start.
I don't hate fighting Pot. I'm just scared of him ok
I need to be clear, we pot community never asked for such drastic changes, yes hes busted now but we just play the character we like, potemkin is the reason i started playing strive in the first place, so please, for the love of god stop hating on us
(I'm not talking to you gekko just to the people that harass us because we play the character we like)
all that i’ve taken from this is nerf baiken
Me after somone I've been hating on for years finally has a reason for everyone to be hatin on now
Nah "he needs it"
hey uh, arcsys, you dont have to nerf potemkin its fine.
however, you gotta get the other 34 characters up to par with him yknow
He was nerfed tho. In exchange for giving kara back they nerfed pb damage and nerfed kara pb range.
@amai2307 That did absolutely nothing bte
@@joeispurple5835 regardless of what you claim it is actual nerfs. And people would not allow you to lie that he wasnt nerfed.
@@amai2307 Pot players wouldn't allow me to lie. I disregard all their thoughts this patch
The "Didn't nerf" jingle was comedy gold with how out of field it was
While actually showing a patch note with litterally 5 lines of dmg nerfs of his most used moves aside Kara back. It can be considered as not enough, but it's visualy weird to say didn't nerf while showing the patch note.
And PB is not a 5 frame armor move at start when used with Kara, but it's more spectacular to say it this way for people.
@@jessierocket8227most of those are global damage nerfs that basically everybody got lol
@@raven_knight_076 It can't be compared to Potemkin dmg loss. Not a single other dmg loss for another character has been this much for this patch. And I'm not saying he didn't deserve it. Just that it can't be compared to others, so it's still a nerf in dmg.
@@jessierocket8227 do not forget kara pb range nerf.
@@amai2307 I don't think it's a nerf
Season 4 of Strive is Potemkin's revenge for getting dunked on back in Xrd.
Really needed a bit more time on that rework for him. But, for what its worth, i understand the vision they were going for and was interested to see where no kara's Potemkin would go from here..... then he got Kara's back and now he's absolutely disgusting. If hes gonna get kara's back, he needs to be brought back to season 3, end of story
Also, not gonna lie, I like Armor on Pot buster. Considering how many of you mash on us to stay away from Pot buster and how many of you succeeded, ate a close slash or ate Garuda, i hope they keep it.
Honestly people that don't like pot are fools, they know nothing, and they sound like silly clowns
At least they don't turn their backs on life y'know
Society just can't accept the truth.
This justice is only bringing more corpses
You pile of beautyfull funny MFs...
This feels like an MvC2 Sentinel moment combined with "200 years of Ksante"
i loved playing potemkin but i refuse to use him now because i feel too guilty T-T
being guilty is part of the game - give into the urges
I play dizzy, f.s is hilarious because the potemkins never expect me to beat their armor with it
good thing i got a friend who plays pot on a higher level than I ever play so I have at least 100 hours solely fighting pot
And that's why (as a Bedman? player) I spam Call 4BA and jump more then a bunny with a stroke.
If you want to beat roundstart kara potbuster and literally most of pot's roundstart options just microwalk back then press down back. Covers pb, 2p, 2d etc
As a Pot player who really enjoys both his previous and current iterations, I wanted to give some thoughts. Ftr I think this character is certainly strong, but I do think some of his moves have weaknesses compared to before S4.
I think that Garuda should have pushback, yet should not be reverted to a strike. The projectile made it deal significantly less chip damage and, most notably, risc gain. Before it built 20 risc on block and stole a lot of meter, not it doesn’t cost much to FD and only builds a pixel now, and I think the risc gain was potentially better than the pushback. I still think this should have forced pushback, just not a full reversion (I also like the blockstun speed much more now)
PB is…weird. I definitely think it’s crazy good, but I feel most times it’s kind of just encouraging both players to return to round start. Some characters have options to cover it, but it is definitely a lot. I also believe that the range buff was standardizing the range it had over later frames, as it would expand over the course of the frames and is now just 2 versions (maybe slightly bigger). Walk back does snuff it, and it’s a safe bet to take, but I’d still prefer if they slightly nerfed the range a bit to eliminate that while still keeping it as a read off an opponent’s dash or off a walking buffer. The difference in kara momentum keeps it pretty much the same everywhere else.
The big nerf I’d like to see is to make throws not stall out the RC penalty timer, since that’d keep Pot’s uses of meter but it’d be true hard costs, as he can meter battery really hard off just one good call, and I think it’s one of his best traits right now.
I do like the S4 direction for Pot, and feel that even with kara changes it still feels very similar, but a couple of smaller nerfs like that would be absolutely fine as I’d mentioned earlier
Finally a Video about Pot, well maybe not what i expected but still lovely
I think the only takeaway from this is to nerf Chaos’ damage scaling again
My friends and I started strive this season actually, and one of them wanted to play pot cause he's a funny grappler. To say I hate fighting him is an understatement
he keeps stealing ma glue man
i used to love strive
but thus is the nature of a live service, the ship of theseus' design philosophy
Here before the pot players act like he's not top 3
Cuz he’s the best grappler by design
As a Pot main, he was fine before the patch. Kara cancel worked wonderfully in making Pot both still relevant in high rank matchs, and not too overpowered and difficult to deal at low levels (since no low levels knows kara). They then made Pot unbeatable at low levels and a put shittier, and worst, not that fun version to use at high levels.
And after he got kara back idk because I was in my time off Strive, but it appears that he is crushing everyone, which is awesome!!! THE POT BROS STAYS WINNING!!! A TUBE OF GLUE FOR EVERYONE, LETS CELEBRATE!!!
Oh they reverted all the buffs they gave him (they mostly compensated with damage and the tick of armor on pot buster) reduced damage on every single move that was buffed on the patch and even took away the insane hurtbox he had on flick (deserved tbh) but yeah it's literally a worse version of the Slayer patch pot (IMO since he has much lower damage and tools compared to Slayer patch pot)
@@gabrielst527 Actually, the hurtbox they extended was laughable because it was only half of his new hitbox. So your strike needed to be deeper than the ocean to hit him. At tip range? Not so much. The most criminal buff was KBMF. While it was no longer a good combo tools, it was a good ass defensive and pressure tool because my GOD they forgot to change the frame data. Now KBMF went from -2 to +1 on block. For Pot, it is a TICK THROW GALLORE. You gave Pot a 0 on block back in AC+ and +R was already a problem (2S>HFB used to be ZERO ON BLOCK!!!!)
@ That's a meme bro. Previous KBMF allowed you to one shot ky from 1C.S and a half worth of risk. Nobody uses the new KBMF since you can option select it on reaction and jump FD it to beat every single option.
I am basically a passenger of strive, I’ve been with it since the beginning and it was the first fighting game I ever even TRIED to get better at. With the state of the game rn, at my horrible, bad player level. I have dropped the game. I love guilty gear as an IP but this season will need to do something insane to get me back, tho it’s not like I’m that important but still.
We move to Under Night!
6:36 it’s funny cause the pot mains were starting to get used to no Kara’s and still have fun basically right as they changed it back
I like fighting Potemkin but I’m not a competitive player
Lets not even talk about kara back mega fist being a forward advancing blus on block overhead
On the one hand: WOOO YEAH TOP-TIER POT FINALLY IT'S BEEN YEARS
On the other: As a Pot player I am VERY used to being in positions where I'm not having any fun fighting my opponent - usually because the tools ASW decided should be used against them simply aren't available to Pot (dashblock, air dash, etc). I am sad that now Pot is that character for others... in a more legitimate way at least. People have been complaining about fighting Pot for years but for the vast majority of that time it was legitimately just a skill issue.
Changes I think would POTentially help reign him in:
System: FRC has half meter gain penalty after use. Not the full meter penalty, but also not getting back nearly the entire thing after 1 buster.
Stats: -15% burst meter. -10% tension gain on getting hit/blocking. -20% tension gain for Pot Buster and Heat Knuckle
Specials/Overdrives Below
Pot Buster: 145 damage, revert base range to Season 3, keep armor - Makes triple-bustering only kill Chipp, Millia, HC, and Zato. It currently kills almost the whole roster. Also, reverting the range is just a QOL change for the opponent. May make the difference between getting grabbed or not in some scenarios.
KBMF: special Kara property of being -1 on block again
Garuda Impact: special Kara property of being a strike. Increase the FD pushback multiplier it used to have (similar to what they did for Sol f.slash)
Giganter Kai: Increase R.I.S.C. loss on hit from 1000 -> 1500. This will reduce the damage done by a picked-up combo by a good bit, while hopefully still keeping it worth using.
I'm no balance designer but this may at least bring him more in line with how he's "supposed" to feel.
Seems that grappler oppression is at an end lol
Holy shit Arcsys making Potemkin roundstart more broken than Waldstein 66B and being even more closer to CP Tager lmaooooooo. Kamone wins again
Good topic & info. I sub him, but am not good at karas.
Usually try to avoid him in vs thanks to the avatar picture, especially if the player lv or floor lv (Park) is much higher.
Can't avoid him in 3 v 3, though. Nice vid.
Kara pot buster looks so fun on match start.
Arc system on the last patch = "We nerfed potemkin entire buffs from the previous patch (even reducing the damage more than it was before the damage patch) and kept the nerfs to all the moves, then we added kara again"
Streamers and community for some reason = "pOtEmKiN gOt bUfFeD AgAiN!!?!?!?"
too be real if you get hit with kara buster round start its a skill diff all you do is hold back if he does kpb or heat tackle or mega fist you win round start
To play devils advocate a little. They may not have nerfed pot when they added karas back because they wanted to see how it performs first and if they even *would* need to do major changes (they do)
Yeah man I love pot but it doesn’t feel right when my big funny grappler man who usually is mid tier is suddenly the strongest in the game
Why I LOVE playing potemkin
Im just realy happy, kara armor grab make me happy
My pixie playin ass is NOT getting on GGST with this MONSTER being top tier
Damn...
I hate fighting pot now so what did i do, I went back to playing him lol
To beat a cornball, you must become a cornball lol
let us have this one patch to roam free, like treating a dog to one last nice day before we are put down. dear lord the nerfs are coming, but the sun still shines and we are happy.
Cant wait for the pot and goldlewis buffs!
Hey, ASW is the same company that created Sailor Uranus aka the BEST GRAPPLERS OF ALL TIME. AC+ Pot existed, CP Tager existed. It's not just Z Broly that was the OG Ultra Steroid grappler with absurd speed and power, ya know.
I am shocked you haven't made this video before.
Because im bad bro next
The ghost of the accent core God king
Yea.. been playing Pot since day 1. When i saw the season 4 trailer and the armor on buster, i went: "Nope! Thats too much!". I prefer my character to be in the struggle tier.
Top 1 Nago/Sol/Ram, nobody bats an eye
Top 1 Potemkin, everyone loses their minds
Exactly this. It's because he's a grappler, so people just can't comprehend him being good.
Top 5-6 Pot you mean.
@@FroakSouls because getting hit by him feels unavoidable most of the time rather than a "I didn't play well"
of course the reality is probably that I didn't play well, but to what extent? I hate ram as well for the record but I love sol bad guy (and I play ky kiske)
The weird thing about this vid is that it's acting like Pot mains as a collective actually agreed with ArcSys' changes. Almost every pot main under the Sun complained about the kara changes, and most thought "what were they thinking" with the reversal. Most people agreed that Season 3 Pot was in a good spot and didn't need massive buffs
That's because they are dumb. Kara is a terrible garbage of a mechanic that should've been removed season 1 when it was discovered Pot can't do the most basic level offense without it. Especially on a character who's competitive viability does not warrant a technical mechanical barrier like Chaos or Asuka.
+19 that you can't do anything with is pathetic.
The weird thing about this vid is that this mf straight up lies multiple times and almost nobody talks about it in comments.
Like initial changes made him weaker and most top pots were struggling
Or the fact that he got multiple nerfs and two of them specifically to pb and kara pb.
Just finished fighting my friend who only went pot with 300 hours in game total when I just installed the game and after 2 hours I finally one a 4 round match and got 20 dollars I had a thought maybe he was a little crazy 💔
Funny thing, before they removed karas I wondered and had a debate with a incredibly small group of people under the dizzy patch release video, and I brought up removing the armor property from kara potbuster. It was mostly agreed upon, and we moved on as if it was simply common sense.
I guess this is what happens when common sense is ignored in favor of rushing a patch.
I miss being able to play pot and not feel bad after winning a game, even when I don't pull cheeky bullshit.
What are you smoking?
Kara pb got two nerfs, instead of yours.
Damage nerf and big range nerf.
All these buffs and yet they haven't fixed rainwater daisuke please give me rainwater back
No no, it IS easier, I'm doing this shit so consistently
Fighting pot in the lower levels isn't too bad but fighting high level pots just feels oppresive
I love season 4 potemkin and would rather not have him nerfed, but if it must happen, just make kara'ed moves act like before the patch. Kara buster? Sure, but you get the old smaller range and no armor. That way Arcsys and pot mains can have their cake and eat it too: Karas aren't essential anymore, but you can still use them like the good old days
Season 2 Pot player here, and I completely agree. I personally didn’t care that Potemkin got buffed in season 4, mostly because I found him to be way more boring compared to before. And while I’m happy that he’s got his kara-cancels back, he’s completely absurd at the moment. I don’t think that armored buster should exist, and Garuda should have pushback again.
Honestly, as a pot main, I kinda want him to be mid.
I want to have the widest, evilest grin on my face when I outplay my opponent.
My "lol armor" grin has staled
this big mf has no weaknesses aside from low mobility and that's basically a non issue
He actually has insane recovery in every single move except 5P and flick, use that to your advantage and whiff punish. I know it's hard since all the other characters are mostly unpunishable cause of their recovery (most serious offender is Sol)
This comment section is sending me bruh. I don't even play GGST myself anymore, I just watch matches here and there, and Gekko because I love his enthusiasm. THESE COMMENTERS ARE MAD SALTY, AND SAD, and I wholeheartedly agree THAT A GRAB CHARACTER SHOULD NOT BE TOP TIER!
As someone who has reached celestial and has 400 hours on pot as a one trick, they should not have made him easier to play. Its fun for a bit for how strong he is but in the end this season isn't gonna end up good for him or his opponents in any way, he was alright before aside from one or two headaches but now he's probably gonna get taken out back and shot next balance patch.
kpb is 6 frames, just 5/2p
My guy doesnt know you can literally walk back and make roundstart kara PB whiff smh
Give Sin Dragon Install after the anime and I don't send the bombs
as a pot player from prepatch they actually made certain karas a lot harder with the new inputs on the K button. obviously KHT and Kflick dont work anymore but we lost KHK because of the overlapping input as well as made KBMF and KGaruda significantly harder as a result of the new flick input. i personally havent been able to get back into the groove of new KPB because i play on controller and inputted it as half circle back, half circle forward and now that overlaps with heat tackle. i dont know why they changed the inputs for pot, plenty of characters have a quarter circle and a double quarter circle and while heat tackle was inconsistent at times half circle forward S was open. as for flick i have to assume the issue was with the new HPB input, which again was ENTIRELY UNNECESSARY. i dont like new pot, i think most of the changes were pretty bad, and i just want old pot back. we shouldnt have armored PB thats fucking stupid.
I have not watched the video, but I know full well why I hate playing against him: Because the ENTIRE gameplay is him defending, biding his time until he gets a chance to do the most degenerate kara cancel shit into a combo that deals 90% of my bar.
Kara cancels aren't a major component of his gameplan anymore
@@kerbonaut2059 The fact that he's busted now doesn't mean that kara cancels aren't at the core of his gameplan in higher level lol
It'd be nice if he had the gigantor Kai follow up again, dunno why they removed it. ALSO, does anyone find it strange that after Pot uses
"HEAVENLY
POTEMKIN
BUSTAAAAAAAAAH!!!" when he chucks you it counts as a hit but does 0 Damage?😆like wtf?
Giganter is pretty different in Strive compared to older games. It's way less of a reversal and just kinda either locks the opponent down for a mix or lets you walk forward with swagger.
Gigant bullet wouldn't really do anything aside from knock them out of the barrier again.
What I want is for it to actually consistently stop projectiles. I shouldn't loose the barrier just cuz a gunflame hit me frame 1
What about the chuck? That was my question
Yeah, my intrest in playing Strive has completely disappeared with the way Pot is rn. Guess ima just keep playin Marvel Rivals since their Devs actually can somewhat balance a game
Now you see, I also play pot, but unlike most of the other pot players, I never looked up a guide, didn't know what kara cancel was, and barely use hammerfall nor pot buster cus it's too inconsistent for me. (Yes, I picked up the game, saw big robot looking guy, decided to main him.)
In fact, I just spam the neutral combo whenever I can cus I don't know any other combos nor how to roman cancel. What's crazy is that I'm in floor 7 and it's working.
Though after this video, I think I now understand why a lot of people try to dodge me whenever I try to challenge.
I most likely won't change my strategy to this, cus even I find it stressful to do all those inputs, and it's just more fun playing it intentionally by how the game sees Potemkin imo.
potempkin fans truly only have 3 jokes
Slayer can beat round start PB with dash kara BSU, still super risky though.
But Axl can’t have rainwater
as a chipp main i hate all pot mains
Ok so I haven't been following Strive after the pot rework. I was super against them removing kara cancel so I went into this video expecting to see the new no kara pot.
Boy, am I so wrong. What is Arcsys cooking oh my god 💀
As a Pot main, I'd like to say that, even with these crazy buffs, I still manage to lose a lot of matches lol
Jokes aside, I gotta admit that he needs some nerfs. I'm not a master at kara cancelling, since I barely have time to play games, but I can't stand having to switch characters every time I play online due to people avoiding my main for being extremely overpowered. Nobody's having fun now.
Why so many people pretend to be pots?
your audio leans to the left. i had to check to make sure it wasn't my headphones. i am interested in the video but this bothers me enough that i am not going to watch it, sorry :(
You're over-egging the pudding, my man. most times "why you hate fighting potemkin" boils down to that person just not liking grapplers. This is pretty much universal.
I know you in particular really dislike grapplers so regardless of what state he's in, you'd hold the same opinion. I'm definitely not saying he's weak or anything but some of this is too much. Round start Kara buster was always a thing, of course the armour makes it scarier, but you went from saying "you can't do *anything* at round start" to "you can only back dash and jump round start" which are legit options. Actually easier to deal with than Nago round start dp + follow up/Dp into Beyblade which i don't think anything beats.
Well, Nago can technically be blocked, but good luck surviving that blender.
🤓Technically Bedman has the highest HP pool with 13C being active. Higher than any other character in the game. But yeah, hes a chunky boy.