Jim Cornette on Dark Side Of The Ring's Episode On Chris Candido
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- From Episode 483 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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To see Lance Storm, Jim Cornette, and Tom Prichard be at a loss for words and be in tears over Chris was one of the most powerful moments in Dark Side history.
Yeah it was very moving
I just came from that episode to this bunch of corny videos and im still in tears from that part
Yeah, I agree. The first time seeing Jim cry for me was about Owen Hart. A few times on his podcast, very hard.
@@patrickfahey7159 that was another very emotional episode you don't expect to see corny cry it shows what it means to him
Yeah you could tell they truly cared for him as a human being all of them cried like they just got the news all over again
A heartbreaking way to kick off the new season. Powerful episode.
Last season, too.
Yes, it was.
@@phychmasher: Whoa....It is??😮😕
@@patrickfahey7159 Yeah, unless somebody saves it. Vice is going bankrupt.
This was the most heartbreaking episode of Darkside. A lot of people really don't know who Chris was, but he was a legend to true wrestling fans.
I had seen Candido only once on TV and that was in TNA and he had an injury and was only doing the talking. To my horror I realized, after watching this episode, that was his last appearance before his untimely death. I'm sad and horrified now.
He doesn’t even talk about Chris Candido in this clip until the last 3 minutes of the video.
preview for the episode it was great.
Thanks for showing your respect and caring for Candido on the dark side Jim, it brought tears to my eyes again like when it first happened. He would've gone on to be huge in the business and entertainment in general and it's sad that we lost him. I love and appreciate your insight and knowledge so much, please keep doing what you do Corny!
Chris Candido is the true All-American Shakespeare Classic Story where a boy wants to be a wrestler, picks up a girlfriend, basically got him into wrestling off her looks, has the skills to be the best, & gets overlooked because of the girl who's dream saw her inspired by fame, & the boy who continues to get overshadowed by everybody who doesn't see the gift of work he brings freed himself of the drunken fame-girl gone bad & dies when he started to fall apart. Such a sad story.
All American shakespeare?
@@Querymonger A Shakespeare-inspired story usually starting with an 'American Dream' that turns against the dreamer with death usually around the corner, but sometimes a tragic end of a career.
The TV show Jackass changed things. No lie I firmly believe it. It became cool to do crazy stupid stunts or hurt each other doing stupid things
people love misery and pain when it happens to someone else.
ECW started before Jackass.
No joke I think your absolutely correct. And ECW wasn't world wide known like jack ass is/was.
@@TheDrRhodesI guess you could say ECW was the original Jackass.
I watched jackass from a very early age, never wanted to fuck myself up. However, seeing RVD, Sabu, Sandman, and Dreamer take bumps made that more popular. Then came the ICP backyard wrestling group.
I think the Hardy Boys have a lot to answer for in regards to these self trained, outlaw, TLC matches with people taking stupid bumps on to things.
I think a lot of the trampoline generation we now see were heavily influenced by Matt and Jeff.
RVD and Jeff Hardy had me thinking I was a high flyer 😂😂😂.
When I was a kid I remember having a boombox with WWF: The Music Vol 3 with the entrance music, the cheap 10 dollar belts you’d get from Toys R Us, and me and the neighbor kids would beat the crap out of each other lol. We obviously weren’t trying to kill each other on any outlaw mud show stuff but just kids being kids. Good times.
Dude when they released the purple IC, I kept it on my shoulder just like Rock and walked around telling my family and whoever would listen to know their role for like a month
some of those kids just kept doing that into their adult years.... and are now on tv every Wednesday night
@@jacko2575 😂rip kayfabe😂
I used to catch my uncle sleeping. And just elbow drop his ass from anywhere i could climb, surprised his chest is still intact.
Tony Khan’s still doing all that.
I was born in '88 and my brother '88 -- we broke my mom's furniture WAYYY before Paul Heyman!
My favourite memory was pulling the fold-out couch out. The folded out part was the ring, the two ring-posts was the top-rope and I definitely ripped off of that thing like Macho Man and HBK onto those old-school wresting buddies.
i'm glad Chris got the spotlight on his tragedy. Massively, underrated talent that got overshadowed by Tammy. He might've been a trainer/agent in AEW if he was still around. What's really sad is that it seemed like he managed to turn his life around with the drugs towards the end and could've been a top guy in TNA.
Tammy is a different kind of sad. Part of me believes that her "I don't give a F" attitude these days is her way of burying her guilt really deep about her life. I think deep down she knows she messed up badly and that there's no way to get back the lost time. But if she goes down that path, it'll wreck her completely to the point where she'll implode. So instead that guilt manifest in a death wish.
Stopped reading at might have been trainer at aew.. how about agent for the big one. Pshh aew mark
Blonde Bombshell is still one of the coolest moves to me
Absolutely, but it was also horrifying with CTE implications. The way the guy taking it and his head violently bounced off the mat 😬
this episode hurt me. i had a childhood sweetheart who when we grew up i had to really see her for what she really was. No Good. besides the whole tammy thing if he didn’t get that goddamn broken ankle 😞chris didn’t deserve that man…he should be here still ❤
I wouldn’t wrestle my friends. They didn’t know how to work.
Give them colour the hard way.
We had our own wrestling federation in our neighborhood. We wrestled on the group, putting each other in Boston crabs and figures fours but never enough to hurt each other. We used one particular yard that had stumps in it that we used as our top rope moves, we put each other into headlocks and things like that. Or we wrestled in the pool. But this was way before the eras of Canada Destroyers, Super Kick parties, or whatever "wrestling" the Metlzer Gymnastic teams learned. We had one of the old plastic WWE belt we used as our "World champion."
Same did that in daytona beach when I was a teenager in the mid 2000s. We had a "federation " and everything. Made belts out of scrap metal. Wrestled during school hours . Great fucking times
Jim is the best man, Im listening to these stories and the way he tells them and Im just dying laughing 😂
He is a true entertainer and a legend, especially to us kids back in the mid 80's watching WWF on saturday mornings.
I threw my cousin 8 feet from the trampoline to the ground after watching Edge throw Paul Bearer from the wheelchair. My dad didn’t pay my travel ball fees that summer….
you must have missed all the don't try this at home ads WWE used to put on. lol
@@zeromagnum2811 Rey Mysterio tried his best to warn me but it went thru one ear and right out the other
Heartbreaking Dark Side of The Ring episode. He loved wrestling so much. After watching the episode, I kept wondering what if Chris went to WCW during the boom period (1996-1999) rather than its later period. I believe he would have a great career wrestling Eddie, Chavo, Disco, early Kidman, Dean, & especially Chris Jericho. Then, when WWE bought WCW, he would be even bigger and maybe World Champion. Tammy is another story though.
Interesting thought.
tammy ruined everything chris ever achieved he was never going to succeed until he got rid of her
@@ducklife420its not her fault he was a drug addict, he should be man enough to not do drugs instead of blaming 1 woman
As a kid it was wrestling (World of Sport, we didn't get WWF and WCW till much later) and Kung Fu. The David Carradine TV series was very popular back then!
I hope they do Eddie Gilbert Darkside of the ring soon
Probably not since he was never in WWE.
@@Chaz4543 Neither was New Jack, XPW, Gage and a few others and they all had one
@@Chaz4543 early in his career he did But it wasn’t long
@@Chaz4543 they cover more than wwe. Sonic boom
Probably season 5
I had STELLAR matches in junior high.
“Then we go over to my opponents house” Jim’s fucking hilarious, oftentimes unintentionally 👏😂😂
My friends and I wrestling on the trampoline. It made sense because it was a large ring-sized object that could fit multiple people and you could fall on it and not get hurt. It was a little weird though how you would drop an elbow and then bounce up. We got slightly crazy in that we had it near our deck so we could knock guys off the deck onto the trampoline (ie: the guy falling controls it) and occasionally we did a deck elbow onto someone. You wouldn't shoot elbow drop the guy but land next to him with your arm above him. Like the whole idea was to not hurt each other. We did have a folding chair which we took flat back hits with but once someone whacked me upside the head and the back flew right out. That was an accident though, not something I asked someone to do to me on purpose.
We did get a little nuts though with some old pieces of wood we found in the barn that were thin enough that you could break them over someone's back if you did it hard and held a hand on each end. There was a trick to it that if you did it right it broke but didn't hurt but guys would chicken out and not do it to you hard enough to break and ironically that made it hurt. We also once made a "table" where we put particle board across two sawhorses. The idea worked in that my brother went through the table clean (with a chokeslam that was so clearly him jumping on his own) and the table impact didn't hurt. But we had one flaw in that it was just in the backyard with nothing under the table so once he went through the particle board he just took a flat bump on the hard ground, which knocked the wind out of him. Ooops.
When my friends and I wrestled on trampolines, every match we had was 100% real. We all were on the wrestling team in school, but we didn't like all the rules.
Were any of the saw horses used for some Gymkata?
Corny's rant about kids imitating wrestling is spot on. That's exactly what we did in the 80's and early 90's. My crew and I, we actually learned to work by doing it. There was countless figure fours or Scorpion Deathlocks in each "match" until we figured out that those were finishers and the only result would be a momentum killing false finish. So we learned filler work like Beautiful Bobby's arm slap punch or whatever. No one ever got hurt, no fights or anything unless we'd get a new guy that wanted to work stiff. Somebody would stretch him and that was that. I miss those days.
I just finished the Chris and Tammy Vice episode. What a complete waste, tragedy, and injustice. Am glad he was turning his life around, and think he was taken by God before the business crushed him again. I feel he's happy now. As for Tammy, I doubt she will ever get sober or sane. She's too self absorbed and if killing someone can't shake her up enough to change, nothing will. Damn sad, but she's no longer the victim now, so I don't feel sorry for her anymore.
Yea, she's appears to be a big narcissistic asshole especially after killing someone albeit manslaughter.
Agree 💯
On the episode, Jim mentioned that he brought Tammy into the wrestling world. Wonder if he regrets that decision due to it having created a monster that led partially to the demise of Chris.
Chris brought her in, not Jim.
@@JorgeRojas-ut3wj Wrong. You clearly did not watch the episode. Jim said he brought her in to be Chris' manager. And Tammy even said that Jim introduced her to the business
I spent 12 minutes thinking this video had been mislabelled.
Little Jimmy shouting "zap !" while throwing a haymaker into Little Billy's face while the teacher takes a piss hahahahahah
Just finished the episode. Never thought I would see Lance Storm, Tom Prichard, and Cornette cry in the same episode. Damn Candido was great.
"That table has a family, dammit!!!"
Everyone cried hard for Mr. Candido in this episode. He must've been loved.
Wait what did this have to do with Chris ? Minus the last minute and a half
Was wondering that too...
At least it's not a cm junk tribute video.
The trampoline days still holds a cherished place in my heart. The saving grace was half the guys in our "federation" were high school wrestlers so it was more stretching someone out as opposed to Foley vs Funk.
What could have been. If he hadn't fallen for the absolute wrong woman.
I noticed RF Video in the ending credits and remember her shoot interviews with them. So most of what she said is audio from excerpts.
Two word can explain a lot of this. Mick Foley. The WWE glorified his early days jumping off his roof and it made him a star. He made a career out of hurting himself. You may not like it but Kevin Nash was right when he said Foleys fall from the cage quote “was the end of working.” Then ECW added to it and made hardcore a thing.
Kevin Nash did more to hurt the business than Mick Foley ever did. Finger poke of doom, Curtain Call, using nepotism to get screen time instead of new talent just to do promos with Punk in his Prime. If you're going to talk about who ruined the business, let's talk about who basically ended the only rival company to WWE and helping Vince create a monopoly.
Kevin Nash lives in a glass house.
@@orlandodanielperez5131With glass quads.
When discussing Candido, his brother, Tom Pritchard, nor Jim could get through it. Candido must have been loved.
First time I heard about the idea of kids training on a trampoline to be wrestlers it was the Hardy Bros. To this day I think that’s where this stems from. People watched these two do this and even with all the addiction issues and injuries they became big stars, they were given chance after chance no matter how badly they screwed up and now people think that’s all you have to do to become a major wrestling star. They don’t appreciate what made the Hardy Bros unique in their primes.
Cage matches and dog collar matches of the mid and early 80s were a layer on top of the "sport". Men like Curt Hennig and Arn and Ole Andersen made it look a real sport. That core always gave it an air of credibility. The non-stop gore fest nowadays gutted it.
Dusty and flair bleed every chance they got
Bleeding needs a really special occasion and it has to be believable... plumber 🪠 Moxley on the other hand , bleeds when you shake his hand. 💀
@rollingthunder8223 but it meant something because they had a long fucking feud that people cared about
@@thatonebritishidiot3037 what about hhh vs flair in the mid 2000s
@@rollingthunder8223 they bled in competitive feuds with big money on the line in major arenas. Not nothing matches in front of nobody in a gym for pennies. Big difference
When Lance Storm had to stop I lost it and when Jim walked off I lost it again.
We started in the Living Room Center and eventually moved to the prestigious Trampoline Arena, but it was just a mat that didn’t hurt. No flips and such.
Never tried the "Super Fly" splash into the pool but I did try the "Macho Man" elbow. Once. Basically turned into a back first belly flop. Ouch
Used to superfly motel beds
Im 12 minutes in and i havent heard anything of chris candido yet lmao
Rest in Paradise to Chris. Gone to soon but never forgotten. You will live forever in our hearts and souls. Thank you Chris.
I used to cut socks up for knee pads and elbow pads. Use to create stories and ‘put people over’
In primary school we’d draw and cut out our own belts
Even by myself, I had a 3ft bear I had to put over many times… even broke my nans new mattress springs, ha.
Cornette having Candido wear the baby bonnet is some outstanding booking I tell you what.
That's worse than lazy booking
I didn't hear them talk about Chris candido at all in this episode. Well, not really. He just mentioned that an episode of him is coming up.
His mother broke my heart, she couldn’t do nothing but still feels like it’s on her.
I put a kid in a crippler Crossface as a kid. But putting someone else in a sharp shooter was still my crowning achievement as a classroom wrestler.
Jim reminiscing about his childhood brought me back to being 7 or 8 & slapping the Camel Clutch on my best friend. Got sent home that day 😂
As kids we tried the stupid shit but usually only once. It was a quick lesson in pain
Broom Dildo? How did you know my high school nickname Jim?
With all respect, a lot of the ensuing tragedy and misery could have been prevented if Candido had grown a pair and either dumped Sunny or at the very least confronted her about cheating on him with several guys
Easy to say from the outside looking in. Leaving toxic relationships can be hard, especially if you convince yourself that the person you love will get worse if you’re not with them. A lot smarter people than Candido have found themselves trapped in relationships with people even worse than Sunny.
@@jamesroot4958 You’re not wrong, but you also didn’t really refute my point either. Hard? Absolutely! Impossible? No, and had Candido had found the motivation/ability to end it with Sunny, there’s a strong argument he’d still be alive and Sunny wouldn’t have ended up killing a man
@@juansanchez209I agree with you. Sunny was probably Candidos first girlfriend which made it hard to him to leave her
@@jamesroot4958. Another example is Will Smith lol
Tarnished his legacy and career for a lot people (his fans included), when he could’ve just handled the situation better with his wife and the public.
@@Spider-Complexion I didn’t disregard his point at all, I literally said he wasn’t wrong! All I’m asking is that my point not be disregarded either, which is what it seems like some of you want to do. Like I said, I agree that it’s much easier said than done, but it’s not impossible either and many people have managed to find their way out of an abusive relationship. And has Candido had done so, I believe history would have been greatly changed
Jim is right as A kid I was working wrestling fights in the backyard and doing bad powerbombs on my friends in a swimming pool. And 1 time when I was 14 I worked a piledriver injury to get out of 2 exams.😂😂😂😂
Talkin' about keeping kayfabe alive 😆👆🏻
I hope that when you dropped the bombshell that due to a botched piledriver you can't do 2 exams that your entrance music played as you walked away
Brother I'm right there with you..I was born in 84' so I was wrestling with my friends from 90-98..we use to have ladder matches in the pool..lol...we use to jump off the pool shed on to each other on floats...or if we were lucky someones parents would leave then there living room turned into the Omni..lol...but i digress hope your having a good night brother
@@whiteythaboss407 Haha.......My trampoline was the ring at The Eddie Graham Sports Stadium in Orlando!
@@joleree1 lmao...I'm born and raised in Orlando...lol...I'm in Sanford Florida now..lol
One day my neighbor and I build a ring on an old hay wagon. Put down bales than covered it with a blue tarp. Made a few turnbuckles out of poles and put ropes around it. Set up another wagon with a 90s karaoke tape player and mic for music and commentary. We'd have the boys come over and we'd put on wrestling shows on the farm.
Word is those early bouts between Corny and "opponent" brought the roof down at the Castle and Laundromat.
I'll get my coat.
I never understood biff as a sound effect
First and ready as all hell for DSOTR!!
Best wrestling show this decade no debate
I used to do a swanton into the pool and I wasn't even a huge Hardyz fan, I just thought it was fun and my friends said it looked cool, my boys now think it's awesome that Dad does that flip into the pool lol. :)
i did it in elementary school in the swing area of the playground. I was Dusty Rhodes/Midnight Rider. I still have a speed bump on the back of my head when someone pulled me into the pole. We had cardboard and foil belts too
Trampoline used to be called jumpoline till yo momma got on it
Sometimes I wonder if some of the more improbable moves helped kayfabe stay alive. Like early on we knew we couldn't do an Irish whip and make it work, and maybe kids would realize "Well they know something that we don't about how to wrestle!" ... and yet we never quite realized WHAT it was about wrestling we didn't know :P
Man back in the day I was a badass on the trampoline with my super long pillow...
I used to play wrestle with my younger female cousins about 20 years ago, and for me safety was paramount.
You mean I’m not the only kid that hit his bully with a chair in class as a kid ? 😂
1:40...
"Ker-Plunk" Was a Stick & Marble "Topple" Type Game...Back In TheDay.
Remember?🤔
Whatever talent Chris Candido had, it was overshadowed by the popularity of Tammy Lynn (Sunny).
This was a heartbreaking episode. It shows how committed to his craft and how respected for it Mr Candido was to have Mr Pritchard, Mr Storm And Mr Cornette needing a moment for composure.
Watched Vice all night. They knocked it out of the park with all those Dark Sides last night. I had never seen that Plane Ride From Hell episode before
Each and every mamber of Vice wanted to be that plane attendant then and there , i guarantee it 🤡
Kids today don't know the phrase, "Be home when the lights come on." This means street lights.
Three massively different personalities cried for Candido shows how much he was loved.
I would like to think that if Tammy would have never met Chris then we would have a better timeline.
My brother wrestled in HS.We for sure wrestled on the mats during intermission. I gave somebody the Earthquake splash.😂😂
A kid with no legs could squash you!
No Momma Cornette, that's plaster all over our clothes.
Can't wait for the historical inaccuracies for this season.
They didnt even talk about the apisode 🤣
I gave a school friend a running powerslam in the seventh grade, for the entire time I knew him he had back problems from it LOL
Ahahahahahahahahah that's just great 👍
Bet I’m not the only one that got on the dresser to drop Randy savage elbow
The best wrestling show is back baby
Woohah....... Wrestling is the best. Better then movies, tv shows. Most entertaining thing ever!!! Love it
Very true when it comes to the vintage stuff
One of the best Darkside episodes.
This episode really showed the lowest point of life someone can get to. Especially Tammy. But she deserves her sufferings. She gets to run a cell block now.
Me and my brother use to wrestle in 1986 for the M.U.S.C.L.E belt made by Mattel and we always try to put on a good match with out hurting each other too.
In elementary school, I gave the fat Pollack kid a bodyslam and was a playground legend. And I scooped him up without help because we didn't know what the hell we were doing.
It wasn't just in the USA, here in the UK we were wrestling as kids too.
A friend of mine wrestled matches with his brother and another friend. This was before I met him. He invented the Casket match before the WWE. Only it was a Freezer match. He speaks fondly of his brother chokeslamming him down on top of the frozen meat in the freezer and closing the lid on him.
Riiiight, sure belive you 😂😂
@@diobrando6177 I don't give a rats ass if you believe me or not.
@@AWX_Wrestling I give a rat's ass whether he believes you or not.
How can you wrestle on a trampoline?
Modern day wrestling:
Cornette saying “taking bumps over the table” in grade school is hilarious.
I’m just learning about all this and man that’s sad rip Chris
Sorry to disappoint Brian but at 9 years old, my bed was used more for moosaults, and Randy Savage elbows than sleeping
In the 90's we did try the moonsault, it's stupid but so is evolution
I wrestled the king size pillows on my parents king size bed lol
Sad documentary. I don't like watching Dark Side, because I just don't like the really depressing and sad nature of many of those stories. I made an exception here, but yeah...this was sad.
I felt Chris wasted so much energy on Tammy...she never really cared for him. She just liked how much he cared for her. We all know women and people like that. People like this respond to strong emotions and care for them, because they are selfish, they like the attention and it makes many mistakenly think they are feeling the same. If you buy into this, they will just suck you dry and then move on to something next as these people are incapable of real empathy. And they usually mess up their relationships in a big way because they just don't care about others.
Chris deserved better.
I would like dark side of the ring a lot more if it wasn’t so dishonest
You can play Jeff Hardy. When I was a teenager, man turning 13/14 and doing Swanton Bombs on a crash mat but still crushing my fucking opponents. Yeah, that.
In defense of the kids that wrestled on trampolines..... We didn't do it for the "bounce". We did it because it was 1998 and that was the closest thing to a real wrestling ring we could find..... Me and my friends actually tried taking off some of the Springs to see if it got rid of the bounce..... It didn't. And by the time you took off enough to get rid of the bounce you just fell through the sides......
I would say from my neighborhood it was a combination of watching cactus Jack versus Terry funk the nineties altogether ECW...😆 And those backyard wrestling tapes
Dont know about beating the crap out of each other for real, but we DEFINITELY had trampoline matches any time we had a trampoline around.