Quick note, Sleep mode was originally made for mechanical hard disk drives because startup was so taxing on HDDs and would lead to early MTF(mean time failure) versus sleep that would keep the HDDs in a low power state without hammering the drives on wakeup. Typically if you don't have mechanical HDDs you should remove the sleep option and depending on your hardware various C states don't work properly anyways especially in a lot of laptops(Apple laptops its works because of limited hardware choices and software integration), Its better to remove it from your menu in the same options page you mention as you don't really need it, Windows is just about the only thing that is usually updated right away to take advantage of newer SSD revisions from faster M.2 iterations, with how really fast everything boots there is no need to not shutdown your computer at this point(PCIe5) it takes longer for UEFI checks than for Windows to load so eventually you will hit a hard limit on how fast you load. Also, very nice you explained it quite well and yes there is a difference between the Shutdown and restart functionality that people typically don't understand.
It is not that you should not shut down your computer, it's that Windows Fast Start and hibernation are big source of problems, and may even kill the whole operating system if something goes wrong, so it is safer to disable fast start, hibernation and hybrid suspension, even better your PC will consume less power with a full power off.
In which world does restart clear sessions? I can in most apps continue from old session after restart. Correct state for leaving PC when you leave for longer is a PROPER SHUTDOWN which clears unneccesary cache, free up system resources from things you once used but will not use anymore soon. And i do not mean sleep or hibernate. I mean shut down. Power off. Also helps to keep hardware cooler and save energy
Why not? My whole power supply shuts off when I push shut down. Are you some kinda noob that doesn't know mobo settings and windows settings? Seems like it.
I shut down my computer every night before going to bed because I've woken to hearing it boot up without any input from me (yes, I was sound asleep). So, I don't care about how many seconds I save each morning...I can spare the time while being fairly confident my data is secure. I will never be a slave to my computer, its designers, or its software builders. Either the computer is under my control, or it isn't. If it isn't, then it's going in the trash. Turn it off! The world won't end....
@@elaineharley5501 I would have thought that anyone with at least two simultaneously-activated brain cells, would have recognised a "typo" for "while"!
Been shutting down my computer on the regular since Windows 98 under the od FAT 32 filing dynamic causing me NO issues that noticeably mattered! Why change?
From a hardware perspective, a full shutdown, or even a hibernate, is a much better option than leaving your computer on or in sleep mode. Some odd hardware states only clear after power down, and computer life is enhanced if it's actually off when not being used. Not to mention saving power, there are some odd cases where silicon or batteries can benefit from being fully off. And if you live in an area with frequent power outages, lightning, or lots of heavy industrial power users, then the more off, the better.
another way to avoid that issue if you do tend to only sleep your computer is to use a fully computer sec system that replaces the entire built in windows one which when you st the computer to sleep the program will auto close every program running but store the info needed to reopen it in an encrypted file system that will only load back on to the screen when the computer has fully reloaded after being woken up
Perfectly valid for computers running old, almost extinct HDD's, now with SSD's without moving parts and increased malware and hacking activities, the safest way to protect your computers is to shutdown it every single time you are getting away from it.
I just prefer to run a more secure OS … I got sick of maintaining my Windoze machines and waiting on updates and anti Virus patches … my Linux never had security problems and my Macs have little in the way of defence up and haven’t been attacked … maybe my router firewall has something to do with it, maybe I’m just Blessed ….
If I shut it down it is because I want the damned thing off. Not sleeping, not running background, not updating, off. Dead. Out of commission. Lifeless. Like my coffee pot or my porch light. I am furious that there is such a thing as an electrical device that you have to ask permission from the device to just throw the switch. I rather enjoy turning it completely off, if for no other reason than I want to illustrate to all the AI out there that I am in charge, and until I say otherwise, they will just have to get along without me. End of rant.
Plus, it consume less energy when it's off (still do BTW). If someone use the computer in the evening and then early morning might not be worth it. Sleep mode will reduce teh consumption. But for a lets say working computer, that is typically not used from late PM to early morning (16-17h not being used), every workday, it count. I'm not even talking of weekends.
the updates should be once a year this is how they taken our money get a new laptop i am taken care of my third laptop but i had my las one for 11 years windows 10 it did perfectly on updating
I live in an attic right now. One room is entirely full of totes of the home owners' stuff in storage, and the side I'm on has a tiny ass window that requires I use a portable AC. That AC is a good 15' or so from my PC. I also live in Nebraska. All that is to say, I shut my PC down every day during the summer to help reduce heat buildup so I can sleep at night. In fact I'll commonly shut my PC down multiple times during the day on weekends as I switch between gaming on it and reading books on my phone/tablet or watching something on my TV. Once winter hits it stays on 24/7 and only ever gets a reboot once every couple months unless something clearly requires it to happen sooner.
Or record something either play annoying music or don’t talk and no music but, just demonstrate the processes which needs explaining on what is being done and why.
This was a bit misleading, though. She isn't recommending restarting instead of performing a shutdown (as the title sugests), she is recommending to be conscious of that Fast Startup option, which is an annoying honestly because it saves very minimal time and gets in the way of proper shutdowns.
I've been disabling "fast start up" for years. My computer has tech from 2012 (i7 3770, SSD, DDR 3 etc) and it's still fast enough that such a feature is redundant. Plus, it's much better to fresh boot and have all the drivers launch fresh. I'd rather take a bit longer booting and have a more stable session on my computer.
@@stranded_mariner7695 The thing is, if we were still using mechanical HDDs as our primary OS storage, it would make sense as a feature. But we don't, so unless the OS detected only a HDD, it shouldn't be on by default anyway. Also, I've noticed, depending on how simple your set up is, the boot speed can be incredibly fast anyway. Mine takes a little time to get to the password screen, I have a lot of USB devices and it like to identify everything on the USB network. My dads computer takes mere seconds without fast boot up, he just has a few things.
An easy way to see whether fast startup is enabled is: go to task manager, go to the performance tap and there choose processor and then look at the time active for it, if this shows days instead of hours and you are sure you turned your pc off then it's probadly turned on as when your computer is actually turned of then the processor active timer in task manager will start counting the first minutes
There's another reason you should shutdown instead of restart. Removing power from the machine will reset the electronics to a default condition ($00 - $FF) instead of random data which restart does. This is required when you get a stuck bit somewhere in your machine and still have problems after restarting it. Hope this helped.
This video is about how since Windows 8 a shutdown is not a shutdown by default; it's just a hibernate. She even suggests to restart and shutdown to clear everything out. Of course, it would make more sense if a shutdown was a shutdown. You can fix this. I don't understand how anyone could think the little bit of time saved by Fast Start is worth not really shutting down your computer.
@@CFWhitman Eh? When you click on 'Shutdown' it literally does do a 'Shutdown' not a hibernate. If you're running any windows from windows XP upward, use 'Shutdown' not hibernate, then boot from a recovery CD, into a DOS prompt, then do an old fashioned DOS file search using 'dir hib*.* /s' the need to boot from a recovery CD is that the file system from windows 8 upwards is NTFS, but below 8, NTFS is optional, and booting from an older windows would be useless unless the OS has the ability to read NTFS drives, XP can, but 98 can't, but, anyway, do that file search and it'll look through the entire drive for any file that has hib in it's name which when actually hibernating, creates a hidden system file called 'Hiberfil.sys' (windows ignores case) in the root of the boot disk, if using the file search comes up with nothing, then windows did not hibernate, but did a complete shutdown instead, but if that file is there, then windows hibernated instead of shutting down.
@@jessepollard7132 Actually, powering it off either via shutdown or hold pressing the power button, doesn't literally power it off, there is still power to the motherboard, the ONLY guaranteed way to make sure the capacitors are discharged, is to (after powering down), completely remove the power plug, then press and hold the power button for 3 seconds, this will not only discharge the motherboard capacitors, but also discharge the PSU capacitors too.
@@ZargonUSA Your test is not really relevant to the point. It doesn't matter if the method that Windows 8/10 uses to "shut down" when using Fast Start is officially the same as the old "hibernate" or not. What matters is that it is effectively the same thing as hibernating. To illustrate this you can try this experiment. You need two different users created on a computer to do this: 1. Log in as one user. 2. Shut down the computer (with Fast Start still turned on in settings, which is the default). 3. Start the computer and log in as a different user. 4. Go to power and hit "Restart" instead of "Shutdown." You will be warned that "other users are logged into this computer" and that they could lose work. This will not happen if you select "Shutdown." If the computer had actually been shut down, it would not say this because an actual shut down logs all users off. However, a hibernate saves the state of the computer and restores it when you turn it back on, never actually logging anyone off. I have worked as a computer technician since 1999 (In my case this means that I install operating systems, deploy computers, solve issues with computers that users have, and repair or replace hardware and software as necessary to keep workstations running; I also have additional server administrative and programming responsibilities). This new situation with current versions of Windows creates various headaches for us as technicians. Things that require a restart to take effect happen when you shut down and power back up with Windows 7 or earlier. Things that require a restart to take effect don't happen when you shut down and power back up with Windows 10. You need to select "Restart" to get them to take effect. To date, we haven't adopted a policy to turn Fast Start off in our organization for the computers that we deploy. However, this has become a consideration recently because it would make support easier.
Nice tutorial and presentation! You can also do a completely clean Shut Down (clears RAM - Hibernation file - Drive cashes) by simultaneously hold the Shift key when clicking Shut Down, or when pressing the Power-On/Shut Down button if configured so. This way, there's no need to change power properties/fast startup settings nor Re-starting and then Shut Down as mentioned. With Shift it just "sweeps" everything during Shut Down, thus skips fast startup once. Next turn-on will be a clean-fresh startup, so boot time will take a little longer.
@@peacefulmind1559That's right, if you're using Windows 8 or later version, although I don't know how this can be done on tablets, probably with Shift on screen K/B and Power button. Provided that fast startup is already enabled (Windows default setting). If fast startup is disabled, then "Shift" doesn't make sense, it cleans anyway everything, every time you Shut Down, but boot time extends permanently which IMO is a bad idea with HDD. With SSD also extends boot time a little when fast startup being disabled.
Fast start was one of the first things I deactivated, because I like my system to do a proper shutdown. It's actually part of my routine after a fresh install to go through all the settings and turn off everything I don't like. Some things require a bit more force to get rid of, like automatic updates, but it's worth it because Windows runs so much more stable without!
Fast start(fast boot, Ultra Boot etc) just bypass some UEFI Checs and inicialization of ports, on bootup(depending what levell of fast start you choose),... on restart some of those checks dont apply anyvay,... nowadays whit werry fast boot times of NVMe drives, Hibernate or Sleep are completly irrelevant,...
Exactly. I don't even have one of those super fast NVMe drives, but an older SSD that's still running in SATA mode. But even that boots so fast that those boot options seem pointless.
I work in IT support, and I solve 90% of problems by disableing fast startup. It ONLY causes problems, and speeds up the boot time by like 3 seconds... People tell me they shut down and turned the PC back on and are wondering why it didn't help. I tell them it's because Microsoft is fucking retarded, and proceed to turn off this abosute useless, inane and mindbogglingly idiotic "feature".
"fast start" is just margeting bullshit, even fresh start on good computer is 10 times faster than boot time of your android phone, there is no point in keeping it half-way turned off
@@Efebur Watch the video, in the _Control Panel_ › *Energy settings* › _Disable Fast startup_ - You can also temporarily disable it by selecting *Shutdown* WHILE holding down the _Shift-key_ … The more you know.
It's like you're reading my mind. I saw certain other videos mention the same thing but couldn't stand to sit through all the unnecessary waffle. Leila for the win!
I've never right clicked the windows icon, ever...I always left clicked to the start menu, this is why i watch videos like yours for the tips and tricks...Gold dust, thanks.!
In my 45 years of IT infrastructure I have seen many times where a restart did not fix the problem. In the end we did a shutdown which also powers off the hardware. This was followed by a power on which boots up all the firmware of the hardware and finally a total boot up of the operating system. What I just described is a full and clean boot up of the hardware and the operating system which uses nothing that was in memory or saved to disk that may be corrupted. This worked on mainframes (before Windows and UNIX and Linux) as well as Windows, UNIX & Linux. I worked in datacenter with up wards of 37,000 servers and this works. Hibernation is fine for slow laptops and desktops. But the technical folks do not do it.
TBH I don't really understand what you said, but what I do know is that when I have had a computer problem, I have tried 'restart', but it did not solve the problem. I have then done a shut down then restarted, and the problem was solved!
Restart works for me on both Windows and Linux and BSD. The mainframes from IBM and DIGITAL may not have had that capacity in the past. Restart doesn't use hibernation and hibernation should be switched off as a preference as there is now low power state keeping barebones alive. It could be that powering off permitted electrical build up to discharge, which would be a design flaw rather than a feature, that should be earthed.
What Jim trying to say is, that electricity can remember, and therefore it dosen’t matter to reboot your system to remove system error. The only way is to remove power to your system, and some times you also need to remove the battery. This applies not only to computers, but also televisions, routers, mobile phone, etc But remove fast turn off in power settings will be a good thing!
Content creators don't understand the power of straightforwardness and simplicity. Most of the time I don't even open a video of MY subscriptions, unless i really need it, because I know there is going to be rambling for the most part. With Leila instead, even if the content is not in my top priorities, I always open her videos, because I know She is going to be clear, precise, fast, with zero waste of time. Always a pleasure to listen, and watch.
Nice tip. Specially if you dual boot with Linux. When you shutdown your PC in Windows and then start your PC using Linux, the hibernation files will block Windows partitions and you can only use them read-only mode in Linux. When you restart the PC in Windows and then log in to Linux, you have not this problem and you can write in Windows partitions. Disabling fast start mode in Windows you don't have this problem anymore.
I run my Linux in a VM now, or on a dedicated PC. I do like the VM as I can try out new Distros easier from Windows. I sometimes run Linux VM inside of Linux but not too often as my Linux PC is quite a bit underpowered compared to my Windows PC. Fast Startup, and Secure Boot I always recommend disabling for a dual boot machine.
not true.. if you launch your file manager out of sudo/su terminal you're GOD and can do anything on the entire client machine which includes access to all windows apps/data that's located on same. I've done this many times even from a live boot stick to save data on a windows box that failed to boot. how is this possible? Because windows does NOT have ANY file protection at the FILE LEVEL. This is why its just about impossible to hack a linux file (as it has file level protection).
@@leecowell8165 The file manager doesn't matter if the partition is mounted read only. Root access doesn't matter. If you can write, it means windows allowed you to. Also, there's no such thing as "file level protection" on any of the OSs. The only reason you can't read linux drives from windows is because windows doesn't support them.
I beg to differ. A poweroff, and thus a shutdown, is the only procedure that guarantees a complete shutdown of the machine, resulting in a hardware reset of installed peripherals. As for fast boot, it is more convenient to disable it altogether with the given procedure or, even better (if you use an SSD as a system disk, it becomes practically mandatory), to disable hibernation completely. You save a lot of disk space and greatly reduce the stress on the system disk which, being the case of an SSD, is a procedure strongly recommended by manufacturers. In this case, the "Turn on fast startup" checkbox disappears completely and startup is disabled by default. PS: Your colleague is absolutely right about not wanting to install updates in critical moments. It has always been strict policy at our IT department to install updates and service packs only AFTER a check that there wasn't anything critical in that distribution package and an additional check on some company test machines. Forced updating of Windows is not something positive, in this respect.
You make it sound like you have a fundamentally different approach. But actually you are agreeing with what she said plus a few extra tips and stronger recommendations.
Well she IS actually right (and you ate actually wrong, in that subject (session initialisation). Although unrelated, your comments on SSD drives and on updates in a corporate environment are right on, dude! As a professional tinkerer (you name it, I have repaired or maintained it as an employee or consultant, for money), I shudder at the MAJOR DRAG it us in Reality to properly Administer a Windows network. In a sane world, people would be (and ARE) running on Unix, or a derivative like a Linux system with an "optimised" supported build. Windows works, amazing amount of code, but: Windows actually IS shit to anybody who knows the real history of computing and the folks at BELL and AT&T.
This is NOT a criticism, but you don't know what is going on in detail in a computer system. I can tell. It's better, maybe, tostay silent, but I think you have to speak your mind, even if you have very incomplete knowledge. At least there are folks like me in here, who will impartially comment so as to help you learn more. As indeed, sometimes, I learn from UA-cam videos. Not this one, though. Windows fast boot is an unwarranted, dangerous modification to a good OS, just to massage the ego of those who MASSIVELY OVER VALUE their Time. And so gain more sales, which given the corporate market is pretty captive, is pointless!
Also note that if you don't want to disable fast startup, but do want to do a full shut down, just hold "Shift" when you click "Shut down". That does a full shut down. It's useful if you shut down your PC in the middle of the day where a fast boot is gonna be useful when you restart. But at night when you finally shut down your PC you can do a full shut down.
I type my stories (I am an aspiring novelist) overnight. I sleep during the day. First, I have sleep disorders that skew my sleep cycle to later in the day. Also, my eyes are terribly sensitive to the bright of day, from sunrise till a few hours prior to sunset.
@@DavidRLentz Lol, you need instruction that matches your sleep cycle? It's useful if you shut down your PC in the middle of the "night" where a fast boot is gonna be useful when you restart. But "in the morning" when you finally shut down your PC you can do a full shut down. There ya go.
Honestly in IT we used to do this but after Win7 I don't think it works anymore. We always suggested this to users back in the day. But I think MS doesn't keep this in Windows anymore, doesn't appear to work these days. /ShakesFistsAtMicrosoft
"Hibernate" option slows PC. I used to have Windows Xp and back in the days, the games had lagging and slow frame rates when PC was awaken from Hibernation. For Windows 10 If someone wants to kill any stuck application with shutdown or restart, chose option - you can simply log off. It stops all software applications. It works for me in Windows 10.
For corporate machines where you don’t have admin rights and therefore cannot turn off fast startup, hold down shift and then click shut down. This will give you a “proper” shutdown. The drawback is that you will have to always remember to shut down with a shift.
you can execute the command "shutdown /s /t 0" in Run (Ctrl+R) or create a .bat / .cmd file with this command line in it and leave in desktop. This command will always fully shutdown the PC. In low user level situations, I find it easier to either shutdown the PC with Ctrl+R + Enter (because this command line is always saved there since I barely use any other) or to execute a file in desktop to shut down, rather than remembering to hold the Shift key every time.
This is a good tip. It is also worth noting that some hardware issues will require a complete poweroff. For instance, if your wifi stops working even after restart, you should restart, then shutdown and then restart again. Also, fast startup leaves your filesystem dirty, so if you use more than one OS, then you should disable fast startup.
I have also experienced reoccurrance of the same issue for .SYS files when only a restart occurred vs a shutdown/power-up. This includes CPU, Audio drives, WebCam drivers, Graphic Cards. Other processes as well (though so rare I can't recall exactly).
What if you have two OSs installed on separate drives in the same computer? Grub sees both, but can fast startup corrupt the non-Windows OS's filesystem? Guessing that the answer is no, but nice to confirm.
@@alexbaronov4736 From my experience it can't, (win 10, openSUSE tumbleweed on different harddisk) but windows won't like you booting another OS if not fully shutdown. Windows does sometimes also messes up grub.
@@gps4l184 Ok, will have to wait and see I guess (setup is for new PC not built yet). I do recall I had some mild problems installing both Windows 10 and Ubuntu on two separate disks, but it's been running ok for a while now.
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Thank you for this info. I am a sql server DBA senior consultant and I did not know about fast startup. I am old school and still thought shut down was the move. Never too old to learn!
How the f#ck does somebody with such limited knowledge of computer systems basics, acquire the position of senior consultant ?! .. I’ve owned a computer repair business for nearly 20 years, have carried out repairs for BBC, ITV, multiple colleges & universities, police stations & ambulance services, yet I’ve never managed to get an interview for any of the similar roles that I’ve applied for, yet the IT teams for all of the above, call me to do what they should be doing ?! .. it’s complete madness !
Just a heads up - there are some things that do not get reset unless you completely turn off (and stop power) to your computer at the hardware level, so there are times when things get particularly funky that you need what is called a Hard Reboot (including power off or Unplug and plug back in).
And right here is why Leila is a good teacher and this comment is superfluous. While your input may have merit, if you don't say WHY it's better to do it this way, it is not helpful. Just you trying to act clever.
Very nice and informative episode! There is another way to momentarily disable quick startup. Simply hold the shift key down when choosing shut down. You'll get a full shutdown that time, but you're not committed to a full shutdown every time.
Thanks for this useful and friendly presentation Leila, but surely shutting down would ‘empty’ everything (caché, memory, etc) and also disconnect from the internet, therefore giving you more security from unwanted updates, hacks etc? Besides which, as you say, modern disk less drives are so fast to boot up these days, there is a negligible difference these days in start up time. It also allows the computer to cool properly which has to be good, right? I have had Macs for years and had no problems with total shut downs, fingers crossed!
I’m impressed. A computer expert that can explain things clearly and fast in a way that someone like me with low computer knowledge can understand. You made a great video!!!
This lady is just repeating what other people have already made great videos about. The very same thing in fact. She just watches and repeats and makes money from youtube.
I bought my HP 2008 with Vista. It still works. I never get online with it anymore, because of fears of viruses, etc.. I mostly use my laptop for importing photos/videos. For two years I used it to play song tracks when I did my own Dan'sElvis Entertainment shows. Most people tell me, they can't believe it still works, lol! I'm thankful it does.
Good video, I kinda figured this out myself from experience but I'm sure lots of people don't know. for example if you do lots of settings changes, shutdown, have a power cut the next day and all your settings will revert back. so doing a restart will also save any changes.
Interesting video, but it is important to note Fast Startup is not exactly the same or as bad as Hibernation, the main difference being Fast Startup logs out of your user profile and deletes the state the computer was in, whereas Hibernation stores the state in which the user was in. But, I believe a reboot might in some rare instances help alleviate performance issues and I will keep your tip in hand for that.
@@eric-. my reply to you was deleted (because of links I suppose). But you should give proof before claiming that it stores all the same information, although I do agree that some of the power states will remain the same and can have some of the same side-effects, depending on one's problem (e.g. dual booting, etc.). I gave links to two articles that contradicted your contradiction, one was a simple to understand article and the other was a technical article from Microsoft themselves (which you can read-up yourself since I cannot link it here) briefly explaining the three startup modes namely: " > Cold (traditional), > Wake-from-hibernation, > Fast (combines the first two, introduced in Windows 8)"
@@SteveMacSticky hi Steve, I have not tested the page files myself, but referring to these technical articles it would make logical sense for hibernate to save slightly larger page files than fast startup, depending on how many-/large- applications you had open during the last session.
@@hitbm4755 yeah. So I think the fast startup differes from hibernate in the aspect of not taking a disc image and saving to disk. This would impact negatively on the SSD wear.
Just watched to see if this matched my current knowledge of the Fast Start process & happily it all does, good job raising awareness of this. Not sure if I'm the only fan of keyboard shortcuts but in addition to right-clicking the Windows 'Start' button (throwback to Windows 95) you can also press the Windows key + X to bring up the alternate menu with shut down options & system control items.
If you're actually in IT I would recommend speaking to your engineering team before talking to your users. This is an excellent video for end users in a non-enterprise enviroment. However, in most organzations these settings are modified via group policy, i.e., disabling fast startup and modifying shutdown options.
Fast Start-Up was really made to cater for very large/low-RPM HDDs. With an SSD the start-up time difference is negligible. Also, if you "don't wanna click on Start and then move all the way over here to click Shut Down," the fastest way is still Alt-F4 - Enter.
@@philnolan7193 Windows key + D then ALT+F4. You can also click the small sliver to the right of the chat box in the bottom right hand corner to minimize all apps and then ALT+F4 from there.
I believe a shift - shutdown will fully shut down your computer without the hibernation file, just as if you had performed a restart but without re-powering afterwards. This was the case with Windows 10, I presume it is true in Windows 11 too.
As a default, yes you are correct, however you COULD go in a setup fast startup as she mentioned but by default, yes, Windows now does the same thing as a reboot
It doesn't look like Windows 10 even has the option, it is unsearchable and not even manually findable. Jeez, seconds after I posted, I do find them...they sure know how to hide it. It's a modern crap UI.
And holding shift while clicking restart brings up some excellent goodies such as going straight to UEFI interface or booting from other media (depending on your UEFI settings for security etc)
A little side note. The boot time can be avoided if you usually start your computer at the same time of day. I get up very early everyday. Around 4:30am. I went into my BIOS and set up a boot time for 4am for everyday. Now I can get up, get my coffee, and by the time I get to my desk, everything is ready to go. Removing fast boot can solve a lot of issues with your CPU.
pit o lazy. just depress power ON how long does that take? not as long as entering BIOS! linux takes forever to boot. however there's a REASON. yeah its checking EVERY partition for consistency and if you happen to have a lotta those (not likely on a windoze box) its gonna take a minute or so to boot. however once its UP it screams next to windows. so what would you like to have.. a speedy boot process or something that actually gets something done ONCE you're signed in? you DO sign in, don't you? I have different sign ins under linux because my default signin is a short PW but if I'm doing banking my signin is very complex (35 alpha PW). you don't get into ANYTHING on a linux box without the system admin PW. hell I can access anything on a windows box with my live linux boot stick. why? NTFS has no file protection at the PARTITION level (only at the OS level). this is why it can be hacked unmercifully. That doesn't happen under linux.
I can never get enough computer tips, things I just won't take the time to scout out on my own. I took care of this a little while back but the way you explained it was simple and easier to follow. Thank you.
Very interesting... intuitively I would have thought just the opposite. I tested my older i7 cpu/win 10 machine and it was actually about 30% faster starting up from a POWER OFF point with the Fast Startup turned ON... The Shutdown time was also about 46% faster with the Fast Startup turned ON. The RESTART time was almost identical with Fast Startup turned ON or Off. As always... you're presentations are awesome. I've been a huge fan of your Excel tutorials and they have given many hours of premium training. The one downside... I seem to always learn a better way to do something, and I wind up re-writing existing code.... it's all for the better. :)
It's friggin irratating and you're right, it's the opposite of how it SHOULD work! IMHO the "fast startup" and the hibernation file are marketing tools to show off how fast a new computer can startup and shutdown.
Another way to get a full/clean shutdown, is to hold down the shift key while selecting 'shutdown.' The next time your system starts, it will be from scratch. I usually do this when I am done working for the day. I have noticed minimal increased time when restarting if I do this, so for me, it is not a big hassle.
I don't understand. I thought that by using shutdown instead of restart you would get a system start from scratch. Why is pressing shift necessary for the scratch start? And, if you aren't holding down shift, what are you getting when you start up?
@@donmiller2908 you get something called fast startup. Your computer saves some data from your previous power ons to boot faster. But this also slows down the shutdown process since it has to save all that data. Notice when you push shutdown, it is never instant. But thats also why it starts up faster. If you want it to shut down faster and boot clean, you hold down shift. This also allows the computer to clean out any bugs or cache that are affecting programs. So power users and programmers tend to shut down this way instead.,
@@Hajiroku I like that, you didn't have to take the time to explain that but you did and I appreciate it. From now on holding shift will be the method I use to shut down my comp. Thanks!
Excellent and so easy to follow. The video clips are great too. I have checked my power settings and unchecked "Turn on fast startup". I now understand the difference between SLEEP and SHUT DOWN. Thank you so much, Simon👍👍
This power tip was incredibly helpful. Like many others, I thought a complete shutdown was the best method for expunging Windows problems. Not anymore. Thanks, Leila!
The good ol' days when "Shut down" was by *default* a shutdown and not another name for hibernation! Always good to know that we can make "Shut down" *actually* shutdown again!
Thanks! I am confused. I don't shut down my laptop for days because then it seems to take so long to restart it after a shut down. So now she is saying I should be doing 'restart' ? instead of shut down.???
I worked in IT. One of the first things we did to troubleshoot virtually any electronic device was to do a hard shut down sometimes accompanied with a power drain by unplugging or if possible removing the battery then holding the power button to drain all residual electricity. It often works like a charm with no further troubleshooting. Pulling power and or battery then holding in the power buttons allows the device to recover from a static lockup. Just did it on a new washer which has all electronic buttons. Unit would not start a cycle properly so I powered it off and it reset and works fine now. One time my printer was not printing in color, did various solutions and nothing worked. Did a complete shut down and it then printed fine. Kicked myself for not doing that as a first step as I had been trained. Just the other day I power cycled my router because internet was not working at all, came back up full speed.
Love the advice! I thought I knew a lot about computers considering I custom build my own gaming/work computers, but I didn't know that one. I'm one that puts the computer to Sleep day by day and may shutdown once a week or so. But considering your video, I had no idea that wasn't a true shutdown to clear everything. Thanks! Subscribed and looking forward to more tips. Oh, in light of the last comment, I do run a SSD for the operating system, but still use HHDs for the major space taking programs.
SSD's are HDD's.... And yes. You need to shut the machine down fully from time to time. And that goes for every single computer types out there. Yes. Even server type.
I turned off fast startup immediately when Windows 8 came out and on every PC since. With a non-SSD drive it will make a difference on startup speed. With an SSD drive, you won't notice it. However, I prefer my system to come up clean every time to keep it running clean. FYI: Troubleshooting computers is what I do for a living, and have for 30 years.
Fast start-up actually caused my computer to freeze at the lock screen and again once at the desktop. I also have an SSD boot drive. I had no idea fast startup existed until I got fed up and googled the issue.
Same shit as a programmer, if you develop and test on the same machine for days following and you just keep restarting always you'll get lag in a matter of days. Your RAM and graphic memory will start lagging because your system keeps feeding zombie processes that keep accumulating as you work on, many of which WILL be restarting with your system as with restart it and tries to recover previously active processes from your last session.. Better simply shutdown and let it kill all the processes than let a clusterfuck snowball of processes accumulate. sorry for the language but I have almost traumatic work remembrances of what some colleagues had done with some of their machines... YEARS accumulated of zombie processes...
I learn about this long ago and inactivated it. The amount of problems you can get just from not having a fresh start is more then enough reasons for doing so. And I think it's kinda incredible that on a work computer like I have, they have this activated.
I've been just using sleep mode lately instead of doing a full shut down, but my rig is ... a bit older so booting up from a full shutdown can take quite a few minutes. Interestingly, I've noticed it boots faster during a restart, which given what I've learned with this video, may ironically be due to the fast start feature. I'll definitely disable that and see if it makes a difference, thanks for the tip!
Thanks, Leila! This information always needs to be passed on to the next (or previous!) generation of computer user. Everyone needs to know how to boot in the most reliable, stable way, and this is it! Been doing it for years as many have said here. I'm glad the front page brought your video to my attention. A lot more nowadays, the algorithm gets it right! :) Take care.
Actually no. This information is basically irrelevant now. SSDs are so quick you can disable fast boot and it'll boot up probably just as quick and properly.
Another YT'er had suggested to press and hold the SHIFT key whilst clicking on the Shut Down option. He stated that this clears that fast cache so it won't reload on a fresh start up. If that is true, it's a great option to use vs. unchecking that box on Fast Startup. Thanks for this vieo!
The fast startup setting impacting the update and shutdown point answered a question I had for quite some time. Thank you for that tid-bit. As a veteran IT Pro with ~25yrs experience, you never know what you might learn and you grow daily.
Great video - and very good advice. I always turn off fast restart as you advise. Sure it makes startup slightly longer, but far more reliable as a fix when power cycling, and not just for Windows mess-ups. When doing a restart, sometimes hardware level issues will remain, as the hardware stays powered during the restart, so an actual power cycle is the only fix. If a logic error has occurred in a hardware component, it can be retained in that state as long as it gets system refreshes (some capacitors can be REALLY persistent) I have even had ATX-based systems that would lock to the point the power switch wouldn't turn the system on. The fix is to unplug the power cord, then push the power button a couple of times, plug it back in and it starts. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but I have used this fix on many clients' systems, and if you just plug it back in without pushing the power button, it still won't start. This is an example of power supply capacitors keeping the hardware in a screwed-up state and blocking the Power-On signal from the motherboard. Microsoft has made things worse with the fast startup (they only did it because they took a lot of heat over the time from boot to desktop - marketing trumps engineering). Now a power cycle can fail to fix the issue. I have had clients turning their systems off multiple times to no useful effect, just as you say in the video. I have been working in IT since 1983, and there has always been this 'whack a mole' game with new Microsoft features that make the product appear to work better, to the detriment of the users. Kept me in business, though! 🙂 It's really great that you are showing this to people in your video, the normal user has no idea about the background silliness in this OS.
Sorry for the blathering long comment - this is the sort of thing I have always really hated about Microsoft, and I was so happy to find your video I went off a bit...
@@unkadoodleDon't apologize! It's good to say all that, as you have thereby included other interesting and informative observations. I'll listen to you anyday, even if we've both had a beer of two. So many people these days are cripplingly inarticulate, and can't even spell a word like cow. (It was spelt CAW!).
Direct to the point and very nicely presented. I was aware of this before, but still thought of checking out the video recommendation. Loved the presentation style. Liked and subscribed
As you hinted at, in the age of SSDs the benefit of Fast Startup is negligible so I always turn it off on systems I set up. This also has the benefit of making them shut down a lot quicker. Personally I completely disable Windows Hibernation using a single command: "powercfg -h off", which removes the option of Fast Startup altogether.
hey bro can you help me pls cus my laptop shuts down slower than before and i have a ssd already i disabled fast startup cus my laptop started having problems and after that it fixed the issue but my laptop shuts down very slow.... with no apps running to.... 4 - 5 mins just to shutdown
TU! And very well explained in only 5 min ... I don't understand why some did not get it or are still confused. Perhaps the title ... Shut Down vs Fast Restart might be a better title but you got better views with "Do NOT Shut Down Your Computer!"
Great tutorial, no BS. I knew that restart cleaned up and before this I would restart daily. Changing the power options makes life one little bit easier. Many thanks.👃
Sometimes, ONLY a "cold" boot/restart will fix an issue on your computer. Only fools leave their system running all the time (unless the system needs to be accessed at any time of day). You don't leave your car or truck running constantly, why would you do it to a computer?
Only one thing to mention if u don’t have a fast pc or laptop. If your pc/laptop is running terribly slow(almost to a freeze) you will have no choice but to hold the power button and shutdown. Of course the change in power settings needs to be done while ur pc/laptop is functioning right. Also for laptops you can setup in power settings for the power button to be for reset only.
I used to be a 24 hour streamer ,, some times 120 hours a week, and i would sleep to reset the week, but would delay manditory PC updates from google & microsoft til my PC would just freeze & sutdown each 18 months , of its own suprise shutdown,. i recently stopped blogging as well, after 30 years 3 laptops , i told my friends that google doesnt do things anymore , so thought , ah time to go.. and go PC free , now because i was live all my life i missed out on alot of tv shows, so i am catching up now,
Thank you much for this. Very helpful to know (which I didn't--I assumed the complete shut was the fuller shut down). Apart from the restart issues here, I prefer to have my laptop go into sleep mode instead of a full shut-down, restarting when I need too--like clearly out the clogged up RAM (etc.). But I've been told that full shut downs and then turning the computer back on, esp. if the computer is older, puts it through more extreme temp changes. I was advised on the sleep mode by a programmer friend so those extremes were lessened. Thank you again!
Thank you so much, Leila. Subscribed, liked and even saved your account’s link. Your instructions are clear, unfeathered by fluff, professional and visible. I so deeply appreciate your efforts. Again, thank you 🌹
I'd say to leave the "Fast Startup" setting on....and to hold down the shift key while pressing the shut down button (which is basically the manual method for a full shut down) when required You get the best of both worlds...or at least a choice - when not having issues you can just do the normal shut down so that you get to continue your tasks sooner after the next startup (not really a big difference if you're running a modern computer with SSDs...but there might be a noticeable difference with older computers with older SSDs or HDDs ) - when having issues or just wanting to clean out your cache/temp files you can do the full shut down Note: The default(normal) shut down mode mentioned in the video is what Microsoft calls a "Hybrid Shutdown"
Very well presented video. I personally haven't used Windows in a while but we had an argument with a colleague 2 months ago about reboot vs shutdown vs not doing anything so I watched the video with interest.
That is an great video about fast boot for windows and how to turn it off. Lot of people don't know what they are doing when restarting or shutting down and what it does. It is also an great explanation on what are those options are used for (restarting or shutting down). Me personally I prefer fast boot to be on, the main reason is to save power when I'm done with my PC and will not be using it more than 2 hours, and when I come back, I have instantly turn my PC on (usually it takes 2 seconds to startup and saves me time ofc), for the restart, I usually done restart after changing some system settings which require restart, otherwise I avoid restarting for any reason. Here are some tips as well on how to navigate thru windows options regarding this topic: 4:26 If you want to even save right click and avoid aiming toward the shutdown and click, you can just do this: 1. Press Win+D (it will brings you to the desktop if you are using any opened window) 2. Press Alt+F4 and hit Enter (default option is for shut down) It is much faster to hit Win+D and Alt+F4 than right click and aim toward options for shutdown, it is even faster if you are already on desktop in front, just hit Alt+F4 then Enter Regarding fast boot option: Press Win+X and run Windows PowerShell (Admin), inside the terminal type this: powercfg /h off (to turn fast boot on type: powercfg /h) and hit Enter. Close terminal by clicking on X or type: exit and hit Enter Hope my tips helps a little as well :D
Great video with alot of helpful information presented in just a few minutes. I had trouble finding the option in my power options and there were only 2 instead of 4 checkboxes. After entering "powercfg /hibernation on" in the power shell (use with admin rights) all 4 checkboxes were shown. Hope this helps if you can't find the option like I did in the beginning.
Fast startup requires hibernation to function. So if hibernation is off, fast startup is off. Enabling hibernation just to turn off fast startup is a little silly. 😉
It is also helpful to know how to disable fast startup and re-enable when troubleshooting. Depending on your system specs, and if your using a fast m2 drive, you may not notice much difference with fast startup disabled.
I don't really see a reason to enable it TBH. Shutting your system down and starting clean each time is vastly superior to doing what is basically a save state.
There's no perceptible difference on any modern SSD, even the cheap MLC SATA drives are amazingly quick. You can get a 10 second boot out of 10 year old hardware, we've never had it so good
I believe that holding SHIFT while selecting Shutdown will do a full shutdown without having to change any settings. Personally I like to allow a minute or so completely off before restarting as there are still things like capacitors, RAM, etc. which will hold power and a restart only restarts the OS, and does not go through the computers power OFF state.
@@brostenen Sorry… I was effectively making a joke out of it. I didn’t say LEFT shift… try that… you must hold it down before pushing the button. If it doesn’t work I can help.
Very interesting snippet of info, thanks. I had no idea about the hibernation file and have always used shut down instead of restart believing a cold boot was more thorough than a warm boot (ingrained in me from past years). I know better now thanks to your video. A question, once fast start is switched off, are restart and shutdown equally thorough in resetting the system or are there still some differences?
With shift you can get the extended restart options, it’s a pity that they do not offer a similar shift shutdown to turn next fast start off or allow even more cleanups (like prefetch cache and swap file nulls).
Great video! Important to note that servers and professional level gear contain ECC This handles a lot of the RAM issues you mentioned … too bad consumer level gear is not normally made the same
Quite a few have ECC capability, it's just not advertised. You have to dig for it, AND verify that indeed it's working. With the coming of DDR5 ECC will be a part of it. ECC memory is also more expensive as well, unfortunately.
I disconnect from my modem and shut my computer down every night. If your computer is not on, and your modem is not connected, nobody can hack into you.
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Quick note, Sleep mode was originally made for mechanical hard disk drives because startup was so taxing on HDDs and would lead to early MTF(mean time failure) versus sleep that would keep the HDDs in a low power state without hammering the drives on wakeup. Typically if you don't have mechanical HDDs you should remove the sleep option and depending on your hardware various C states don't work properly anyways especially in a lot of laptops(Apple laptops its works because of limited hardware choices and software integration), Its better to remove it from your menu in the same options page you mention as you don't really need it, Windows is just about the only thing that is usually updated right away to take advantage of newer SSD revisions from faster M.2 iterations, with how really fast everything boots there is no need to not shutdown your computer at this point(PCIe5) it takes longer for UEFI checks than for Windows to load so eventually you will hit a hard limit on how fast you load.
Also, very nice you explained it quite well and yes there is a difference between the Shutdown and restart functionality that people typically don't understand.
It is not that you should not shut down your computer, it's that Windows Fast Start and hibernation are big source of problems, and may even kill the whole operating system if something goes wrong, so it is safer to disable fast start, hibernation and hybrid suspension, even better your PC will consume less power with a full power off.
SHUTDOWN and RESTART is not equal to REBOOT
old times it was.. but now, when yu shutdown.. it kinda HIBERNATES.. so it can restart fast/quickly
In which world does restart clear sessions? I can in most apps continue from old session after restart.
Correct state for leaving PC when you leave for longer is a PROPER SHUTDOWN which clears unneccesary cache, free up system resources from things you once used but will not use anymore soon.
And i do not mean sleep or hibernate. I mean shut down. Power off.
Also helps to keep hardware cooler and save energy
Why not? My whole power supply shuts off when I push shut down. Are you some kinda noob that doesn't know mobo settings and windows settings? Seems like it.
I shut down my computer every night before going to bed because I've woken to hearing it boot up without any input from me (yes, I was sound asleep). So, I don't care about how many seconds I save each morning...I can spare the time while being fairly confident my data is secure. I will never be a slave to my computer, its designers, or its software builders. Either the computer is under my control, or it isn't. If it isn't, then it's going in the trash. Turn it off! The world won't end....
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Holding the "Shift" key will shutting down also disables the fast reboot routine and your computer will come up as a restart, fresh and clean.
"...will shutting down???"
@@elaineharley5501 I would have thought that anyone with at least two simultaneously-activated brain cells, would have recognised a "typo" for "while"!
@@CrazyRev not if the person takes their time when they type. Then there won't be any issues.
@@johngeraghty2757 Or just try to get stuffs wrong... for real..
@@elaineharley5501 I think it's meant to say while. Not sure, tho
**finishes watching video**
**shuts down computer**
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Been shutting down my computer on the regular since Windows 98 under the od FAT 32 filing dynamic causing me NO issues that noticeably mattered! Why change?
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I'll just quickly pull the power cord, saves time.
From a hardware perspective, a full shutdown, or even a hibernate, is a much better option than leaving your computer on or in sleep mode. Some odd hardware states only clear after power down, and computer life is enhanced if it's actually off when not being used. Not to mention saving power, there are some odd cases where silicon or batteries can benefit from being fully off. And if you live in an area with frequent power outages, lightning, or lots of heavy industrial power users, then the more off, the better.
South Africa for example :)
Sleep is the best method. Less wear and tear over all for daily use.
another way to avoid that issue if you do tend to only sleep your computer is to use a fully computer sec system that replaces the entire built in windows one which when you st the computer to sleep the program will auto close every program running but store the info needed to reopen it in an encrypted file system that will only load back on to the screen when the computer has fully reloaded after being woken up
@@happydogg312 Then you're good to shut it down but for most daily users they should use "sleep"
I like sleep. But shutting down is not a big deal.
Perfectly valid for computers running old, almost extinct HDD's, now with SSD's without moving parts and increased malware and hacking activities, the safest way to protect your computers is to shutdown it every single time you are getting away from it.
I just prefer to run a more secure OS … I got sick of maintaining my Windoze machines and waiting on updates and anti Virus patches … my Linux never had security problems and my Macs have little in the way of defence up and haven’t been attacked … maybe my router firewall has something to do with it, maybe I’m just Blessed ….
For night its more then enough but 24/7 is no good and useless everything needs rest
@@anormaldude127 , this is a very important step when buying prebuilts, but is less of an issue when installing the OS yourself.
@@chrisbraid2907 maybe it’s maybelline
From your spelling, I think you should have paid more attention in English class, kid.
If I shut it down it is because I want the damned thing off. Not sleeping, not running background, not updating, off. Dead. Out of commission. Lifeless. Like my coffee pot or my porch light. I am furious that there is such a thing as an electrical device that you have to ask permission from the device to just throw the switch. I rather enjoy turning it completely off, if for no other reason than I want to illustrate to all the AI out there that I am in charge, and until I say otherwise, they will just have to get along without me. End of rant.
Plus, it consume less energy when it's off (still do BTW). If someone use the computer in the evening and then early morning might not be worth it. Sleep mode will reduce teh consumption. But for a lets say working computer, that is typically not used from late PM to early morning (16-17h not being used), every workday, it count. I'm not even talking of weekends.
I don't care about if my computer will start in 3 seconds or in 5 seconds
coffe pot and porch lights process more tasks than a computer 😂
the updates should be once a year this is how they taken our money get a new laptop i am taken care of my third laptop but i had my las one for 11 years windows 10 it did perfectly on updating
I live in an attic right now. One room is entirely full of totes of the home owners' stuff in storage, and the side I'm on has a tiny ass window that requires I use a portable AC. That AC is a good 15' or so from my PC. I also live in Nebraska. All that is to say, I shut my PC down every day during the summer to help reduce heat buildup so I can sleep at night. In fact I'll commonly shut my PC down multiple times during the day on weekends as I switch between gaming on it and reading books on my phone/tablet or watching something on my TV.
Once winter hits it stays on 24/7 and only ever gets a reboot once every couple months unless something clearly requires it to happen sooner.
I like it when people are straight to the point rather then 5 minutes or 15 minutes in the video.
Or record something either play annoying music or don’t talk and no music but, just demonstrate the processes which needs explaining on what is being done and why.
I agree, I will subscribe
This was a bit misleading, though. She isn't recommending restarting instead of performing a shutdown (as the title sugests), she is recommending to be conscious of that Fast Startup option, which is an annoying honestly because it saves very minimal time and gets in the way of proper shutdowns.
@@xocomaox I would still like it if people on UA-cam where straight to the point of their video and its title rather then 5 or 15 minutes into it.
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I've been disabling "fast start up" for years. My computer has tech from 2012 (i7 3770, SSD, DDR 3 etc) and it's still fast enough that such a feature is redundant. Plus, it's much better to fresh boot and have all the drivers launch fresh. I'd rather take a bit longer booting and have a more stable session on my computer.
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Me too. The time difference is barely noticeable... esp if you go grab a cup of coffee while it's booting.
I have also disabled fast start up, it's not really worth it on modern hardware
@@stranded_mariner7695 The thing is, if we were still using mechanical HDDs as our primary OS storage, it would make sense as a feature. But we don't, so unless the OS detected only a HDD, it shouldn't be on by default anyway.
Also, I've noticed, depending on how simple your set up is, the boot speed can be incredibly fast anyway. Mine takes a little time to get to the password screen, I have a lot of USB devices and it like to identify everything on the USB network. My dads computer takes mere seconds without fast boot up, he just has a few things.
yep. just turn that off and shut down is my default now (unless I just need to restart) at the end of the day I shut down.
An easy way to see whether fast startup is enabled is: go to task manager, go to the performance tap and there choose processor and then look at the time active for it, if this shows days instead of hours and you are sure you turned your pc off then it's probadly turned on as when your computer is actually turned of then the processor active timer in task manager will start counting the first minutes
This explains A LOT. I've wondered why sometimes, after shutdown, Firefox wants to "restore previous session". And other thing. So BIG THX!!!💛💛💛
There's another reason you should shutdown instead of restart. Removing power from the machine will reset the electronics to a default condition ($00 - $FF) instead of random data which restart does. This is required when you get a stuck bit somewhere in your machine and still have problems after restarting it. Hope this helped.
This video is about how since Windows 8 a shutdown is not a shutdown by default; it's just a hibernate. She even suggests to restart and shutdown to clear everything out. Of course, it would make more sense if a shutdown was a shutdown. You can fix this. I don't understand how anyone could think the little bit of time saved by Fast Start is worth not really shutting down your computer.
Which is one of the reasons you are supposed to wait 5-10 seconds after powering it off to turn it back on. Capacitors take time to discharge.
@@CFWhitman Eh? When you click on 'Shutdown' it literally does do a 'Shutdown' not a hibernate. If you're running any windows from windows XP upward, use 'Shutdown' not hibernate, then boot from a recovery CD, into a DOS prompt, then do an old fashioned DOS file search using 'dir hib*.* /s' the need to boot from a recovery CD is that the file system from windows 8 upwards is NTFS, but below 8, NTFS is optional, and booting from an older windows would be useless unless the OS has the ability to read NTFS drives, XP can, but 98 can't, but, anyway, do that file search and it'll look through the entire drive for any file that has hib in it's name which when actually hibernating, creates a hidden system file called 'Hiberfil.sys' (windows ignores case) in the root of the boot disk, if using the file search comes up with nothing, then windows did not hibernate, but did a complete shutdown instead, but if that file is there, then windows hibernated instead of shutting down.
@@jessepollard7132 Actually, powering it off either via shutdown or hold pressing the power button, doesn't literally power it off, there is still power to the motherboard, the ONLY guaranteed way to make sure the capacitors are discharged, is to (after powering down), completely remove the power plug, then press and hold the power button for 3 seconds, this will not only discharge the motherboard capacitors, but also discharge the PSU capacitors too.
@@ZargonUSA Your test is not really relevant to the point. It doesn't matter if the method that Windows 8/10 uses to "shut down" when using Fast Start is officially the same as the old "hibernate" or not. What matters is that it is effectively the same thing as hibernating. To illustrate this you can try this experiment. You need two different users created on a computer to do this:
1. Log in as one user.
2. Shut down the computer (with Fast Start still turned on in settings, which is the default).
3. Start the computer and log in as a different user.
4. Go to power and hit "Restart" instead of "Shutdown." You will be warned that "other users are logged into this computer" and that they could lose work. This will not happen if you select "Shutdown."
If the computer had actually been shut down, it would not say this because an actual shut down logs all users off. However, a hibernate saves the state of the computer and restores it when you turn it back on, never actually logging anyone off.
I have worked as a computer technician since 1999 (In my case this means that I install operating systems, deploy computers, solve issues with computers that users have, and repair or replace hardware and software as necessary to keep workstations running; I also have additional server administrative and programming responsibilities). This new situation with current versions of Windows creates various headaches for us as technicians. Things that require a restart to take effect happen when you shut down and power back up with Windows 7 or earlier. Things that require a restart to take effect don't happen when you shut down and power back up with Windows 10. You need to select "Restart" to get them to take effect. To date, we haven't adopted a policy to turn Fast Start off in our organization for the computers that we deploy. However, this has become a consideration recently because it would make support easier.
Nice tutorial and presentation! You can also do a completely clean Shut Down (clears RAM - Hibernation file - Drive cashes) by simultaneously hold the Shift key when clicking Shut Down, or when pressing the Power-On/Shut Down button if configured so. This way, there's no need to change power properties/fast startup settings nor Re-starting and then Shut Down as mentioned. With Shift it just "sweeps" everything during Shut Down, thus skips fast startup once. Next turn-on will be a clean-fresh startup, so boot time will take a little longer.
This is what I tell all of my users, best method that I know of.
Thank you!!
What i was going to say...🙂
I am sorry but Do I have to click the " Shift Key + the Shut Down option" at the same time for a clean shut down?
@@peacefulmind1559That's right, if you're using Windows 8 or later version, although I don't know how this can be done on tablets, probably with Shift on screen K/B and Power button.
Provided that fast startup is already enabled (Windows default setting). If fast startup is disabled, then "Shift" doesn't make sense, it cleans anyway everything, every time you Shut Down, but boot time extends permanently which IMO is a bad idea with HDD. With SSD also extends boot time a little when fast startup being disabled.
Fast start was one of the first things I deactivated, because I like my system to do a proper shutdown. It's actually part of my routine after a fresh install to go through all the settings and turn off everything I don't like. Some things require a bit more force to get rid of, like automatic updates, but it's worth it because Windows runs so much more stable without!
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Fast start(fast boot, Ultra Boot etc) just bypass some UEFI Checs and inicialization of ports, on bootup(depending what levell of fast start you choose),... on restart some of those checks dont apply anyvay,... nowadays whit werry fast boot times of NVMe drives, Hibernate or Sleep are completly irrelevant,...
Exactly. I don't even have one of those super fast NVMe drives, but an older SSD that's still running in SATA mode. But even that boots so fast that those boot options seem pointless.
I work in IT support, and I solve 90% of problems by disableing fast startup. It ONLY causes problems, and speeds up the boot time by like 3 seconds... People tell me they shut down and turned the PC back on and are wondering why it didn't help. I tell them it's because Microsoft is fucking retarded, and proceed to turn off this abosute useless, inane and mindbogglingly idiotic "feature".
"fast start" is just margeting bullshit, even fresh start on good computer is 10 times faster than boot time of your android phone, there is no point in keeping it half-way turned off
Better advice is to just disable fast boot. It's largely redundant since most consumer PCs have SSDs.
Yep, spot on
That's exactly what I did on my desktop PC.
What is fast boot? And where do you disable it?
Surely sounds like the recommendation Leila put on video.
@@Efebur Watch the video, in the _Control Panel_ › *Energy settings* › _Disable Fast startup_ - You can also temporarily disable it by selecting *Shutdown* WHILE holding down the _Shift-key_ … The more you know.
Straight to the point. No rambling for 30 minutes. Great tutorials. I wish more instructors and educators would learn that.
You stole my comment. :D I was going to say the same thing.
No kidding right? 😃😄
1min in shes still rambling wtf you talkin about lol
It's like you're reading my mind. I saw certain other videos mention the same thing but couldn't stand to sit through all the unnecessary waffle. Leila for the win!
Big fan of hers! 👍
I've never right clicked the windows icon, ever...I always left clicked to the start menu, this is why i watch videos like yours for the tips and tricks...Gold dust, thanks.!
There's the keyboard shortcut, Windows + X. To shut down, you can then click U, which pops up the shutdown menu, and click U again to do a shut down.
In my 45 years of IT infrastructure I have seen many times where a restart did not fix the problem. In the end we did a shutdown which also powers off the hardware. This was followed by a power on which boots up all the firmware of the hardware and finally a total boot up of the operating system. What I just described is a full and clean boot up of the hardware and the operating system which uses nothing that was in memory or saved to disk that may be corrupted. This worked on mainframes (before Windows and UNIX and Linux) as well as Windows, UNIX & Linux.
I worked in datacenter with up wards of 37,000 servers and this works. Hibernation is fine for slow laptops and desktops. But the technical folks do not do it.
a lot of BS on UA-cam, they should listen smart people and experts 😀😀😀😀
TBH I don't really understand what you said, but what I do know is that when I have had a computer problem, I have tried 'restart', but it did not solve the problem. I have then done a shut down then restarted, and the problem was solved!
@@alanskidadomdom3748 dom dom in Dutch is stupid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Restart works for me on both Windows and Linux and BSD. The mainframes from IBM and DIGITAL may not have had that capacity in the past. Restart doesn't use hibernation and hibernation should be switched off as a preference as there is now low power state keeping barebones alive. It could be that powering off permitted electrical build up to discharge, which would be a design flaw rather than a feature, that should be earthed.
What Jim trying to say is, that electricity can remember, and therefore it dosen’t matter to reboot your system to remove system error.
The only way is to remove power to your system, and some times you also need to remove the battery.
This applies not only to computers, but also televisions, routers, mobile phone, etc
But remove fast turn off in power settings will be a good thing!
Excellent! I knew about the hib file, but I didn't know how to work around it. Thank you!
Content creators don't understand the power of straightforwardness and simplicity. Most of the time I don't even open a video of MY subscriptions, unless i really need it, because I know there is going to be rambling for the most part. With Leila instead, even if the content is not in my top priorities, I always open her videos, because I know She is going to be clear, precise, fast, with zero waste of time.
Always a pleasure to listen, and watch.
Thank youtube for that 10 minutes and monetization bullshittery for making content creators drag on their videos.
Agree!
She has no need to ramble because the answer is already long. Other videos need filler or they'd be 20 seconds long.
Simp detected
For years I have wondered which approach is better ... now I know. Another useful nugget from Prof Leila ... thank you ... thank you ... thank you.
Happy to help 😁
And I wondered why my comupter has an on/off switch. Do they have millions in their shops and need to sell? I will label mine: DONT touch this button
Nice tip. Specially if you dual boot with Linux. When you shutdown your PC in Windows and then start your PC using Linux, the hibernation files will block Windows partitions and you can only use them read-only mode in Linux. When you restart the PC in Windows and then log in to Linux, you have not this problem and you can write in Windows partitions. Disabling fast start mode in Windows you don't have this problem anymore.
I run my Linux in a VM now, or on a dedicated PC. I do like the VM as I can try out new Distros easier from Windows. I sometimes run Linux VM inside of Linux but not too often as my Linux PC is quite a bit underpowered compared to my Windows PC. Fast Startup, and Secure Boot I always recommend disabling for a dual boot machine.
not true.. if you launch your file manager out of sudo/su terminal you're GOD and can do anything on the entire client machine which includes access to all windows apps/data that's located on same. I've done this many times even from a live boot stick to save data on a windows box that failed to boot. how is this possible? Because windows does NOT have ANY file protection at the FILE LEVEL. This is why its just about impossible to hack a linux file (as it has file level protection).
@@leecowell8165 The file manager doesn't matter if the partition is mounted read only. Root access doesn't matter. If you can write, it means windows allowed you to. Also, there's no such thing as "file level protection" on any of the OSs. The only reason you can't read linux drives from windows is because windows doesn't support them.
The way you explain is very good. How you arrange sentences, pronunciation, video editing, everything is very clear and good. I love it.
I beg to differ. A poweroff, and thus a shutdown, is the only procedure that guarantees a complete shutdown of the machine, resulting in a hardware reset of installed peripherals. As for fast boot, it is more convenient to disable it altogether with the given procedure or, even better (if you use an SSD as a system disk, it becomes practically mandatory), to disable hibernation completely. You save a lot of disk space and greatly reduce the stress on the system disk which, being the case of an SSD, is a procedure strongly recommended by manufacturers. In this case, the "Turn on fast startup" checkbox disappears completely and startup is disabled by default. PS: Your colleague is absolutely right about not wanting to install updates in critical moments. It has always been strict policy at our IT department to install updates and service packs only AFTER a check that there wasn't anything critical in that distribution package and an additional check on some company test machines. Forced updating of Windows is not something positive, in this respect.
You make it sound like you have a fundamentally different approach. But actually you are agreeing with what she said plus a few extra tips and stronger recommendations.
Well she IS actually right (and you ate actually wrong, in that subject (session initialisation).
Although unrelated, your comments on SSD drives and on updates in a corporate environment are right on, dude!
As a professional tinkerer (you name it, I have repaired or maintained it as an employee or consultant, for money), I shudder at the MAJOR DRAG it us in Reality to properly Administer a Windows network.
In a sane world, people would be (and ARE) running on Unix, or a derivative like a Linux system with an "optimised" supported build.
Windows works, amazing amount of code, but: Windows actually IS shit to anybody who knows the real history of computing and the folks at BELL and AT&T.
That used to be true, but it isn't true with W10 or W11. It's actually extremely annoying.
@@howlearning4755 what isn't true?????
Lol...
This is NOT a criticism, but you don't know what is going on in detail in a computer system. I can tell.
It's better, maybe, tostay silent, but I think you have to speak your mind, even if you have very incomplete knowledge.
At least there are folks like me in here, who will impartially comment so as to help you learn more.
As indeed, sometimes, I learn from UA-cam videos. Not this one, though.
Windows fast boot is an unwarranted, dangerous modification to a good OS, just to massage the ego of those who MASSIVELY OVER VALUE their Time. And so gain more sales, which given the corporate market is pretty captive, is pointless!
Also note that if you don't want to disable fast startup, but do want to do a full shut down, just hold "Shift" when you click "Shut down". That does a full shut down.
It's useful if you shut down your PC in the middle of the day where a fast boot is gonna be useful when you restart. But at night when you finally shut down your PC you can do a full shut down.
SHIFT, not CTRL 😉
@@iqlogic Oh you right I'll correct it.
I type my stories (I am an aspiring novelist) overnight. I sleep during the day. First, I have sleep disorders that skew my sleep cycle to later in the day. Also, my eyes are terribly sensitive to the bright of day, from sunrise till a few hours prior to sunset.
Thanks for the tip
@@DavidRLentz Lol, you need instruction that matches your sleep cycle?
It's useful if you shut down your PC in the middle of the "night" where a fast boot is gonna be useful when you restart. But "in the morning" when you finally shut down your PC you can do a full shut down.
There ya go.
Alternatively, you can just hold down the Shift key while clicking shut down. This is also a full shut down.
Or you could just shut down and kill psu.
Honestly in IT we used to do this but after Win7 I don't think it works anymore. We always suggested this to users back in the day. But I think MS doesn't keep this in Windows anymore, doesn't appear to work these days. /ShakesFistsAtMicrosoft
Pressing the Shift key restart the computer to the UEFI Recovery
somehow my setting for fast boot that i disable became enable automatic after win update..... 😅
Yes
"Hibernate" option slows PC. I used to have Windows Xp and back in the days, the games had lagging and slow frame rates when PC was awaken from Hibernation. For Windows 10 If someone wants to kill any stuck application with shutdown or restart, chose option - you can simply log off. It stops all software applications. It works for me in Windows 10.
For corporate machines where you don’t have admin rights and therefore cannot turn off fast startup, hold down shift and then click shut down. This will give you a “proper” shutdown. The drawback is that you will have to always remember to shut down with a shift.
you can execute the command "shutdown /s /t 0" in Run (Ctrl+R) or create a .bat / .cmd file with this command line in it and leave in desktop. This command will always fully shutdown the PC. In low user level situations, I find it easier to either shutdown the PC with Ctrl+R + Enter (because this command line is always saved there since I barely use any other) or to execute a file in desktop to shut down, rather than remembering to hold the Shift key every time.
Great video. No nonsense, easy to follow and straight to the point. Thx.
This is a good tip. It is also worth noting that some hardware issues will require a complete poweroff. For instance, if your wifi stops working even after restart, you should restart, then shutdown and then restart again. Also, fast startup leaves your filesystem dirty, so if you use more than one OS, then you should disable fast startup.
Ty!
I have also experienced reoccurrance of the same issue for .SYS files when only a restart occurred vs a shutdown/power-up. This includes CPU, Audio drives, WebCam drivers, Graphic Cards. Other processes as well (though so rare I can't recall exactly).
What if you have two OSs installed on separate drives in the same computer? Grub sees both, but can fast startup corrupt the non-Windows OS's filesystem? Guessing that the answer is no, but nice to confirm.
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From my experience it can't, (win 10, openSUSE tumbleweed on different harddisk) but windows won't like you booting another OS if not fully shutdown.
Windows does sometimes also messes up grub.
@@gps4l184 Ok, will have to wait and see I guess (setup is for new PC not built yet). I do recall I had some mild problems installing both Windows 10 and Ubuntu on two separate disks, but it's been running ok for a while now.
it really helped thanks madam Leila for you time and efforts
Can we click and drag Government to the trash bin and then reboot? I think that would clean things up nicely.
You government checks will stop coming. How will you live?
Lol!
Especially Trump.
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Thank you for this info. I am a sql server DBA senior consultant and I did not know about fast startup. I am old school and still thought shut down was the move. Never too old to learn!
just disable fast startup silly
it's quite obvious you don't have the qualifications you claim to
How the f#ck does somebody with such limited knowledge of computer systems basics, acquire the position of senior consultant ?! .. I’ve owned a computer repair business for nearly 20 years, have carried out repairs for BBC, ITV, multiple colleges & universities, police stations & ambulance services, yet I’ve never managed to get an interview for any of the similar roles that I’ve applied for, yet the IT teams for all of the above, call me to do what they should be doing ?! .. it’s complete madness !
Just a heads up - there are some things that do not get reset unless you completely turn off (and stop power) to your computer at the hardware level, so there are times when things get particularly funky that you need what is called a Hard Reboot (including power off or Unplug and plug back in).
And right here is why Leila is a good teacher and this comment is superfluous. While your input may have merit, if you don't say WHY it's better to do it this way, it is not helpful.
Just you trying to act clever.
@@tomcatkzn that didn't come out as clever as it did in your head son. Do better.
Stop licking her toes, she has 2m followers because she is a ok looking woman talking tech. Ppl always like geeky chicks, but her way is a joke.
Also, hold down the power button AFTER shut down for 30 seconds for stubborn issues.
Very nice and informative episode! There is another way to momentarily disable quick startup. Simply hold the shift key down when choosing shut down. You'll get a full shutdown that time, but you're not committed to a full shutdown every time.
Thanks for this useful and friendly presentation Leila, but surely shutting down would ‘empty’ everything (caché, memory, etc) and also disconnect from the internet, therefore giving you more security from unwanted updates, hacks etc? Besides which, as you say, modern disk less drives are so fast to boot up these days, there is a negligible difference these days in start up time. It also allows the computer to cool properly which has to be good, right?
I have had Macs for years and had no problems with total shut downs, fingers crossed!
I’m impressed. A computer expert that can explain things clearly and fast in a way that someone like me with low computer knowledge can understand. You made a great video!!!
Just keep in mind that you have no way of knowing if you’re getting good information, or not
I think you are correct! Good reminder!!
This lady is just repeating what other people have already made great videos about. The very same thing in fact. She just watches and repeats and makes money from youtube.
@@pattyayers Fair comment - hopefully we can find out or verify somehow.
If you are looking for clear instructions on IT Training videos, then please do head to my channel :) I like to get to the point quickly!
I bought my HP 2008 with Vista.
It still works. I never get online with it anymore, because of fears of viruses, etc.. I mostly use my laptop for importing photos/videos. For two years I used it to play song tracks when I did my own Dan'sElvis Entertainment shows. Most people tell me, they can't believe it still works, lol! I'm thankful it does.
Yeah mine too, it still works...
But no more updates from Windows now...
Try a Linux distribution to get online without fear
Thats cool
Useful info; thanks
Good video, I kinda figured this out myself from experience but I'm sure lots of people don't know. for example if you do lots of settings changes, shutdown, have a power cut the next day and all your settings will revert back. so doing a restart will also save any changes.
This is most likely due to a policy resetting things to a certain state, for a business laptop.
Interesting video, but it is important to note Fast Startup is not exactly the same or as bad as Hibernation, the main difference being Fast Startup logs out of your user profile and deletes the state the computer was in, whereas Hibernation stores the state in which the user was in.
But, I believe a reboot might in some rare instances help alleviate performance issues and I will keep your tip in hand for that.
fast startup stores all the same info as hibernation. it does not, in fact, "delete the state the computer was in".
@@eric-. my reply to you was deleted (because of links I suppose). But you should give proof before claiming that it stores all the same information, although I do agree that some of the power states will remain the same and can have some of the same side-effects, depending on one's problem (e.g. dual booting, etc.). I gave links to two articles that contradicted your contradiction, one was a simple to understand article and the other was a technical article from Microsoft themselves (which you can read-up yourself since I cannot link it here) briefly explaining the three startup modes namely:
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> Cold (traditional),
> Wake-from-hibernation,
> Fast (combines the first two, introduced in Windows 8)"
Yeah I was wondering about that, due to the huge page files being saved to SSDs, if in fact it was a true hibernate.
@@SteveMacSticky hi Steve, I have not tested the page files myself, but referring to these technical articles it would make logical sense for hibernate to save slightly larger page files than fast startup, depending on how many-/large- applications you had open during the last session.
@@hitbm4755 yeah. So I think the fast startup differes from hibernate in the aspect of not taking a disc image and saving to disk. This would impact negatively on the SSD wear.
This was an eye-opener. Nicely explained. Thanks a bunch.
well done. smart lady.
Just watched to see if this matched my current knowledge of the Fast Start process & happily it all does, good job raising awareness of this. Not sure if I'm the only fan of keyboard shortcuts but in addition to right-clicking the Windows 'Start' button (throwback to Windows 95) you can also press the Windows key + X to bring up the alternate menu with shut down options & system control items.
Excellent explanation of everything :) and I'll share this with my users at work. I'm an IT professional and this video is straight to the point :)
Thank God you are not out IT pro. If this is something new to you stay away from our computers!
@@soupyjoe1420 ikr. Seriously ... "IT professional" ? bruh lmao, such a big amount of incompetent twats out there in the industry i swear.
How do you not know these things already?
If you're actually in IT I would recommend speaking to your engineering team before talking to your users. This is an excellent video for end users in a non-enterprise enviroment. However, in most organzations these settings are modified via group policy, i.e., disabling fast startup and modifying shutdown options.
Fast Start-Up was really made to cater for very large/low-RPM HDDs. With an SSD the start-up time difference is negligible.
Also, if you "don't wanna click on Start and then move all the way over here to click Shut Down," the fastest way is still Alt-F4 - Enter.
On my Intel NUC, I disabled fast shut down for Windows 10. Especially since all my "drives" are SSD's, a "cold" startup is still quite fast.
It was because they were trying to make a tablet OS and compete with iPads etc... It's very annoying for a PC
I think even on a 7200RPM HDD it'll make a difference.
Alt F4 will close the active program, this will only work if there are no programs open. I use Alt F4 a lot for closing programs.
@@philnolan7193 Windows key + D then ALT+F4. You can also click the small sliver to the right of the chat box in the bottom right hand corner to minimize all apps and then ALT+F4 from there.
Very well presented.
I believe a shift - shutdown will fully shut down your computer without the hibernation file, just as if you had performed a restart but without re-powering afterwards. This was the case with Windows 10, I presume it is true in Windows 11 too.
Yes same as windows 8 as well
As a default, yes you are correct, however you COULD go in a setup fast startup as she mentioned but by default, yes, Windows now does the same thing as a reboot
It doesn't look like Windows 10 even has the option, it is unsearchable and not even manually findable.
Jeez, seconds after I posted, I do find them...they sure know how to hide it.
It's a modern crap UI.
And holding shift while clicking restart brings up some excellent goodies such as going straight to UEFI interface or booting from other media (depending on your UEFI settings for security etc)
@@TheEVEInspiration I couldn't find it on W10.
A little side note. The boot time can be avoided if you usually start your computer at the same time of day. I get up very early everyday. Around 4:30am. I went into my BIOS and set up a boot time for 4am for everyday. Now I can get up, get my coffee, and by the time I get to my desk, everything is ready to go. Removing fast boot can solve a lot of issues with your CPU.
pit o lazy. just depress power ON how long does that take? not as long as entering BIOS! linux takes forever to boot. however there's a REASON. yeah its checking EVERY partition for consistency and if you happen to have a lotta those (not likely on a windoze box) its gonna take a minute or so to boot. however once its UP it screams next to windows. so what would you like to have.. a speedy boot process or something that actually gets something done ONCE you're signed in? you DO sign in, don't you? I have different sign ins under linux because my default signin is a short PW but if I'm doing banking my signin is very complex (35 alpha PW). you don't get into ANYTHING on a linux box without the system admin PW. hell I can access anything on a windows box with my live linux boot stick. why? NTFS has no file protection at the PARTITION level (only at the OS level). this is why it can be hacked unmercifully. That doesn't happen under linux.
@@leecowell8165 I entered the bios to set it up. It's a one time thing. Now my computer turns on and boots up by it self at the same time everyday.
@@leecowell8165 they already wake up at 430 pm, not lazy at all lol
@@leecowell8165 i boot fast and lightning fast always. windows.
@daisiesandpandas1218 my thoughts. A lazy person isn't getting up at 4 lol
I can never get enough computer tips, things I just won't take the time to scout out on my own. I took care of this a little while back but the way you explained it was simple and easier to follow. Thank you.
I found this information really valuable. Thank you.
Very interesting... intuitively I would have thought just the opposite. I tested my older i7 cpu/win 10 machine and it was actually about 30% faster starting up from a POWER OFF point with the Fast Startup turned ON... The Shutdown time was also about 46% faster with the Fast Startup turned ON. The RESTART time was almost identical with Fast Startup turned ON or Off. As always... you're presentations are awesome. I've been a huge fan of your Excel tutorials and they have given many hours of premium training. The one downside... I seem to always learn a better way to do something, and I wind up re-writing existing code.... it's all for the better. :)
Time to switch to Silica-M1 Mini.
It's friggin irratating and you're right, it's the opposite of how it SHOULD work! IMHO the "fast startup" and the hibernation file are marketing tools to show off how fast a new computer can startup and shutdown.
Another way to get a full/clean shutdown, is to hold down the shift key while selecting 'shutdown.' The next time your system starts, it will be from scratch. I usually do this when I am done working for the day. I have noticed minimal increased time when restarting if I do this, so for me, it is not a big hassle.
I don't understand. I thought that by using shutdown instead of restart you would get a system start from scratch. Why is pressing shift necessary for the scratch start?
And, if you aren't holding down shift, what are you getting when you start up?
@@donmiller2908 you get something called fast startup. Your computer saves some data from your previous power ons to boot faster. But this also slows down the shutdown process since it has to save all that data. Notice when you push shutdown, it is never instant. But thats also why it starts up faster. If you want it to shut down faster and boot clean, you hold down shift. This also allows the computer to clean out any bugs or cache that are affecting programs. So power users and programmers tend to shut down this way instead.,
@@Hajiroku I like that, you didn't have to take the time to explain that but you did and I appreciate it. From now on holding shift will be the method I use to shut down my comp. Thanks!
@@donmiller2908 Or you could just do what she said on the video.
@@rustcohle9267 I would rather use the advice given by Hajiroku. It's practical.
Excellent and so easy to follow. The video clips are great too. I have checked my power settings and unchecked "Turn on fast startup".
I now understand the difference between SLEEP and SHUT DOWN. Thank you so much, Simon👍👍
What is the difference m
Thank you for your lovely clear explanation
This power tip was incredibly helpful. Like many others, I thought a complete shutdown was the best method for expunging Windows problems. Not anymore. Thanks, Leila!
PLEASE Don't believe this Bullshit... i am 61, coding for dos 6.1, to windows me... this is a lie...
The good ol' days when "Shut down" was by *default* a shutdown and not another name for hibernation! Always good to know that we can make "Shut down" *actually* shutdown again!
Haha this is all so vain... Write a song cover of Carole King or so, send it BG 🤪
There is way too much misinformation and misunderstanding here. It is in fact vital that there are regular full shutdowns and reboots.
Thanks! I am confused. I don't shut down my laptop for days because then it seems to take so long to restart it after a shut down. So now she is saying I should be doing 'restart' ? instead of shut down.???
This lady needs to stick to makeup
I worked in IT. One of the first things we did to troubleshoot virtually any electronic device was to do a hard shut down sometimes accompanied with a power drain by unplugging or if possible removing the battery then holding the power button to drain all residual electricity. It often works like a charm with no further troubleshooting. Pulling power and or battery then holding in the power buttons allows the device to recover from a static lockup. Just did it on a new washer which has all electronic buttons. Unit would not start a cycle properly so I powered it off and it reset and works fine now. One time my printer was not printing in color, did various solutions and nothing worked. Did a complete shut down and it then printed fine. Kicked myself for not doing that as a first step as I had been trained. Just the other day I power cycled my router because internet was not working at all, came back up full speed.
@@travelrockstar Shut up.
Not really. I understood everything.
Excellent thank you
Exactly how a Tech video should be straight forward. No awkward songs and intros.👍
Yes, the elimination of an intro theme really helps. If I was watching Full House or Perfect Strangers or All in the Family, I do love the theme song.
It was still overstretched. You can say the same thing in a minute or two.
Love the advice! I thought I knew a lot about computers considering I custom build my own gaming/work computers, but I didn't know that one. I'm one that puts the computer to Sleep day by day and may shutdown once a week or so. But considering your video, I had no idea that wasn't a true shutdown to clear everything. Thanks! Subscribed and looking forward to more tips. Oh, in light of the last comment, I do run a SSD for the operating system, but still use HHDs for the major space taking programs.
Glad to have you aboard!
SSD's are HDD's.... And yes. You need to shut the machine down fully from time to time. And that goes for every single computer types out there. Yes. Even server type.
I turned off fast startup immediately when Windows 8 came out and on every PC since. With a non-SSD drive it will make a difference on startup speed. With an SSD drive, you won't notice it. However, I prefer my system to come up clean every time to keep it running clean. FYI: Troubleshooting computers is what I do for a living, and have for 30 years.
Ditto.
Fast start-up actually caused my computer to freeze at the lock screen and again once at the desktop. I also have an SSD boot drive. I had no idea fast startup existed until I got fed up and googled the issue.
Same shit as a programmer, if you develop and test on the same machine for days following and you just keep restarting always you'll get lag in a matter of days. Your RAM and graphic memory will start lagging because your system keeps feeding zombie processes that keep accumulating as you work on, many of which WILL be restarting with your system as with restart it and tries to recover previously active processes from your last session.. Better simply shutdown and let it kill all the processes than let a clusterfuck snowball of processes accumulate. sorry for the language but I have almost traumatic work remembrances of what some colleagues had done with some of their machines... YEARS accumulated of zombie processes...
@@snorriivan6365 ha ha, actually you missed the point entirely 😂
Shutdown saves running processes, while restart ends them!
nice clear and concise.
I learn about this long ago and inactivated it. The amount of problems you can get just from not having a fresh start is more then enough reasons for doing so. And I think it's kinda incredible that on a work computer like I have, they have this activated.
I've been just using sleep mode lately instead of doing a full shut down, but my rig is ... a bit older so booting up from a full shutdown can take quite a few minutes. Interestingly, I've noticed it boots faster during a restart, which given what I've learned with this video, may ironically be due to the fast start feature. I'll definitely disable that and see if it makes a difference, thanks for the tip!
With Windows 11 coming we moved all ours to Linux desktop. KDE Neon is better than Windows
Thanks, Leila! This information always needs to be passed on to the next (or previous!) generation of computer user. Everyone needs to know how to boot in the most reliable, stable way, and this is it! Been doing it for years as many have said here.
I'm glad the front page brought your video to my attention. A lot more nowadays, the algorithm gets it right! :) Take care.
Actually no. This information is basically irrelevant now.
SSDs are so quick you can disable fast boot and it'll boot up probably just as quick and properly.
Another YT'er had suggested to press and hold the SHIFT key whilst clicking on the Shut Down option. He stated that this clears that fast cache so it won't reload on a fresh start up. If that is true, it's a great option to use vs. unchecking that box on Fast Startup. Thanks for this vieo!
The fast startup setting impacting the update and shutdown point answered a question I had for quite some time. Thank you for that tid-bit. As a veteran IT Pro with ~25yrs experience, you never know what you might learn and you grow daily.
Very informative video. I honestly had no idea "restarting" was different from "shutting down" my computer. Thank you for sharing! (:
Great video - and very good advice. I always turn off fast restart as you advise. Sure it makes startup slightly longer, but far more reliable as a fix when power cycling, and not just for Windows mess-ups. When doing a restart, sometimes hardware level issues will remain, as the hardware stays powered during the restart, so an actual power cycle is the only fix. If a logic error has occurred in a hardware component, it can be retained in that state as long as it gets system refreshes (some capacitors can be REALLY persistent) I have even had ATX-based systems that would lock to the point the power switch wouldn't turn the system on. The fix is to unplug the power cord, then push the power button a couple of times, plug it back in and it starts. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but I have used this fix on many clients' systems, and if you just plug it back in without pushing the power button, it still won't start. This is an example of power supply capacitors keeping the hardware in a screwed-up state and blocking the Power-On signal from the motherboard. Microsoft has made things worse with the fast startup (they only did it because they took a lot of heat over the time from boot to desktop - marketing trumps engineering). Now a power cycle can fail to fix the issue. I have had clients turning their systems off multiple times to no useful effect, just as you say in the video. I have been working in IT since 1983, and there has always been this 'whack a mole' game with new Microsoft features that make the product appear to work better, to the detriment of the users. Kept me in business, though! 🙂 It's really great that you are showing this to people in your video, the normal user has no idea about the background silliness in this OS.
Sorry for the blathering long comment - this is the sort of thing I have always really hated about Microsoft, and I was so happy to find your video I went off a bit...
@@unkadoodleDon't apologize! It's good to say all that, as you have thereby included other interesting and informative observations. I'll listen to you anyday, even if we've both had a beer of two. So many people these days are cripplingly inarticulate, and can't even spell a word like cow. (It was spelt CAW!).
Cheers!@@geoffreyparker926
Well explained.
Direct to the point and very nicely presented. I was aware of this before, but still thought of checking out the video recommendation. Loved the presentation style. Liked and subscribed
Well-presented, fuss-free and really clear. Many thanks Leila.
My pleasure, Alan!
Not so clear to me.
She's reading MS whitepaper fragments from the ceiling and doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.
I found the information to be disinformation Alan. But, I'm glad it helped you out.
@@TheAntsh yeah. The channel and her face is a deception and misinformation platform aimed at confusing people from the basic knowledge of computers.
As you hinted at, in the age of SSDs the benefit of Fast Startup is negligible so I always turn it off on systems I set up. This also has the benefit of making them shut down a lot quicker. Personally I completely disable Windows Hibernation using a single command: "powercfg -h off", which removes the option of Fast Startup altogether.
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@@kuriokudesuWait, is that serious? 20 GB just for the hibernation file?
@@Herandro_just_Herandro can easily be, depends mainly on how much RAM you have.
@@UnseenMenace Thanks! I really didn't know that.
hey bro can you help me pls cus my laptop shuts down slower than before and i have a ssd already i disabled fast startup cus my laptop started having problems and after that it fixed the issue but my laptop shuts down very slow.... with no apps running to.... 4 - 5 mins just to shutdown
TU! And very well explained in only 5 min ... I don't understand why some did not get it or are still confused. Perhaps the title ... Shut Down vs Fast Restart might be a better title but you got better views with "Do NOT Shut Down Your Computer!"
Great tutorial, no BS. I knew that restart cleaned up and before this I would restart daily. Changing the power options makes life one little bit easier. Many thanks.👃
Our pleasure!
Sometimes, ONLY a "cold" boot/restart will fix an issue on your computer. Only fools leave their system running all the time (unless the system needs to be accessed at any time of day). You don't leave your car or truck running constantly, why would you do it to a computer?
Only one thing to mention if u don’t have a fast pc or laptop. If your pc/laptop is running terribly slow(almost to a freeze) you will have no choice but to hold the power button and shutdown. Of course the change in power settings needs to be done while ur pc/laptop is functioning right. Also for laptops you can setup in power settings for the power button to be for reset only.
I used to be a 24 hour streamer ,, some times 120 hours a week, and i would sleep to reset the week, but would delay manditory PC updates from google & microsoft til my PC would just freeze & sutdown each 18 months , of its own suprise shutdown,. i recently stopped blogging as well, after 30 years 3 laptops , i told my friends that google doesnt do things anymore , so thought , ah time to go.. and go PC free , now because i was live all my life i missed out on alot of tv shows, so i am catching up now,
Thanks for the video very informative
Great and to the point video , always a pleasure watching Leila educate us :) Thank You so much
Thank you much for this. Very helpful to know (which I didn't--I assumed the complete shut was the fuller shut down).
Apart from the restart issues here, I prefer to have my laptop go into sleep mode instead of a full shut-down, restarting when I need too--like clearly out the clogged up RAM (etc.). But I've been told that full shut downs and then turning the computer back on, esp. if the computer is older, puts it through more extreme temp changes. I was advised on the sleep mode by a programmer friend so those extremes were lessened.
Thank you again!
Thank you so much, Leila. Subscribed, liked and even saved your account’s link.
Your instructions are clear, unfeathered by fluff, professional and visible. I so deeply appreciate your efforts.
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lol you're deceiving yourself and others in the process.
Very informative and crisp, thanks!
I'd say to leave the "Fast Startup" setting on....and to hold down the shift key while pressing the shut down button (which is basically the manual method for a full shut down) when required
You get the best of both worlds...or at least a choice
- when not having issues you can just do the normal shut down so that you get to continue your tasks sooner after the next startup (not really a big difference if you're running a modern computer with SSDs...but there might be a noticeable difference with older computers with older SSDs or HDDs )
- when having issues or just wanting to clean out your cache/temp files you can do the full shut down
Note: The default(normal) shut down mode mentioned in the video is what Microsoft calls a "Hybrid Shutdown"
Beautifully done! Excellent delivery and pace, very easy and fun to follow. New Sub!
Very well presented video.
I personally haven't used Windows in a while but we had an argument with a colleague 2 months ago about reboot vs shutdown vs not doing anything so I watched the video with interest.
That is an great video about fast boot for windows and how to turn it off. Lot of people don't know what they are doing when restarting or shutting down and what it does.
It is also an great explanation on what are those options are used for (restarting or shutting down). Me personally I prefer fast boot to be on, the main reason is to save power when I'm done with my PC and will not be using it more than 2 hours, and when I come back, I have instantly turn my PC on (usually it takes 2 seconds to startup and saves me time ofc), for the restart, I usually done restart after changing some system settings which require restart, otherwise I avoid restarting for any reason.
Here are some tips as well on how to navigate thru windows options regarding this topic:
4:26 If you want to even save right click and avoid aiming toward the shutdown and click, you can just do this:
1. Press Win+D (it will brings you to the desktop if you are using any opened window)
2. Press Alt+F4 and hit Enter (default option is for shut down)
It is much faster to hit Win+D and Alt+F4 than right click and aim toward options for shutdown,
it is even faster if you are already on desktop in front, just hit Alt+F4 then Enter
Regarding fast boot option: Press Win+X and run Windows PowerShell (Admin),
inside the terminal type this: powercfg /h off (to turn fast boot on type: powercfg /h) and hit Enter.
Close terminal by clicking on X or type: exit and hit Enter
Hope my tips helps a little as well :D
Thank you. I'm truly amazed by your depth of knowledge and how easy you make this look. Truly remarkable.
Excellent job in talking clearly, slowly and clearly explaining the point. Makes a world of difference. Thx! again.
She actually clearly pronounced 't' instead of saying 'igh' which is refreshing. ..so many illiterate people speaking with silent t.
Great video with alot of helpful information presented in just a few minutes.
I had trouble finding the option in my power options and there were only 2 instead of 4 checkboxes. After entering "powercfg /hibernation on" in the power shell (use with admin rights) all 4 checkboxes were shown. Hope this helps if you can't find the option like I did in the beginning.
Fast startup requires hibernation to function. So if hibernation is off, fast startup is off. Enabling hibernation just to turn off fast startup is a little silly. 😉
Awesome video. Love the clear way she explains her solutions!!
It is also helpful to know how to disable fast startup and re-enable when troubleshooting. Depending on your system specs, and if your using a fast m2 drive, you may not notice much difference with fast startup disabled.
I don't really see a reason to enable it TBH. Shutting your system down and starting clean each time is vastly superior to doing what is basically a save state.
There's no perceptible difference on any modern SSD, even the cheap MLC SATA drives are amazingly quick. You can get a 10 second boot out of 10 year old hardware, we've never had it so good
I believe that holding SHIFT while selecting Shutdown will do a full shutdown without having to change any settings. Personally I like to allow a minute or so completely off before restarting as there are still things like capacitors, RAM, etc. which will hold power and a restart only restarts the OS, and does not go through the computers power OFF state.
someone get a beer to this wise man in a beard
Holding shift is not an option on my computer....
@@brostenen You have to do it with your nose 😛
@@IAMGregEVA No. You do not understand. It was not a joke, and I repeat. The shift trick is not something I can do on any of my computers.
@@brostenen Sorry… I was effectively making a joke out of it. I didn’t say LEFT shift… try that… you must hold it down before pushing the button. If it doesn’t work I can help.
Very interesting snippet of info, thanks. I had no idea about the hibernation file and have always used shut down instead of restart believing a cold boot was more thorough than a warm boot (ingrained in me from past years). I know better now thanks to your video. A question, once fast start is switched off, are restart and shutdown equally thorough in resetting the system or are there still some differences?
They differ in the way power is delivered to the components. If you're going to restart anyway, then don't do a shutdown.
I just use Shift + Shutdown, no fuckery
If I don't shut my antique HP off, the neighbors will complain about it keeping them awake. I'm pretty sure it is diesel powered.
With shift you can get the extended restart options, it’s a pity that they do not offer a similar shift shutdown to turn next fast start off or allow even more cleanups (like prefetch cache and swap file nulls).
For interest, the shift has a function on shutdown as well, not a menu, something a little more, off.
Great video! Important to note that servers and professional level gear contain ECC This handles a lot of the RAM issues you mentioned … too bad consumer level gear is not normally made the same
This is why I will never buy a consumer grade desktop ever again. I have a refurbished enterprise workstation, and I won't go back now.
Quite a few have ECC capability, it's just not advertised. You have to dig for it, AND verify that indeed it's working. With the coming of DDR5 ECC will be a part of it. ECC memory is also more expensive as well, unfortunately.
I built a TrueNAS system with ECC memory. I adore it.
Very helpful thank you
We've been Microsoft'd again: Restart being more thorough than Shutdown is absolutely counter-intuitive. Thank you!
I vote to revoke this content creator as a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP) to ensure customer trust.
I disconnect from my modem and shut my computer down every night. If your computer is not on, and your modem is not connected, nobody can hack into you.