I wouldn't level my rogue in wotlk as my first character, it gets very very tough at lvl 80 without gear and you have to bandage after every other mob kill.
Sure - here's all my addons :D Also thanks so much for being a subscriber, it means a lot :) I plan to clean some of them up as we move into Wrath because some of them aren't used as much. Here's the ones I have enabled. I typed them out for you. Attune Bag Brother Bartender4 BetterVendorPrice ClassicAuraDurations ClassicCastBars ClassicCastBarOptions !DetailsDamageMeter GearQuipper Gladdy (PVP Arena Addon) Inventorian Leatrix Plus MapFader Nova Instance Tracker OmniBar OmniCC PallyPower (essential if you play Paladin) Quartz Questie (great addon for quests) SpellActivationOverlay (great for any class that has procs) WeakAuras What's Training? XToLevel TradeSkillMaster DBM (THIS IS A MUST) There's a few other addons scattered in my game but they're really not essential to me and might be removed.
@@vague243 so I get all my addons through CurseForge which might have something to do with it But I think going into the options you can adjust them?? If the ClassicCastBars doesn’t work, Quartz does Cast Bars too I believe:)
i personally level as sub, cause its so many hordes here that i wanna be able to kill them. Also it one shots mobs 1 by one compared to 3 minute cds to pump aoe. Combat feels too slow for me :p have you tried assasination?
@@itsego_tv yeah im on thekal and its sooo many hordes, levling as combat would leave me pretty defensless, especially cause they always go 2v1 or more
@@ElevatedLevetator yeah then Sub is definitely gonna be something you’ll have to go HAHA! God I hate when it’s a 2v1, they can’t just respect the 1v1 y’know??
@@witcherpie yeah and it must suck if you get thrown out of stealth too if they detect you or you have a dot? I’d imagine it struggles if you’re not behind your target too no? I’m actually interested to hear more!!
It can actually be viable!! It does do a lot of damage and you can go toe to toe with melee a lot easier than if you were a sub rogue! This is because you can use Adrenaline Rush to spam down a target mostly.
@@AntonioMottaAtor Yes you technically can, you can swap the 5 points in "Hack and Slash" for 5 points in "Close Quarters Combat", this will give you increased Crit with daggers. This could be potentially more desirable on PVP servers because by having at least one dagger in your Main Hand you'll be able to use Ambush.
@@AntonioMottaAtor ouhhh that sounds like an absolute dream - I wish you all the best in your ganking adventures lol I hope to see you in my future videos!!
Seems like an ability that would be used on dungeon and raid bosses. Even for soloing elites during questing. If you're going to dungeon level I can see using it but doubt you going to be able to do that as a rogue. My strategy is open world mob farming and bg grinding
Honestly, lot of misinfo in this guide that naieve rogues wouldn't notice, wouldn't recommend these talents at all, without risposte is just not great, and that's just the first thing. Also this isn't how you play combat, you spend on slice and dice all the time unless it's up already, open with shiv with deadly on offhand, just a lot wrong, take rupture off your bars while leveling, waste of energy and cp
I appreciate your feedback!! These are great notes, I think I did mention that Rupture is really only going to used on longer fights like bosses in dungeons. So I completely agree with you there! And yeah keeping Slice up is absolutely crucial, I dump extra points into Eviscerate!! Great notes :)
While that can be true for some, gear matters a lot. I play Assa with the usual combo of x2 Mutilates into Envenom and the mob is dead, no need to SnD or risposte while losing little hp to almost none. It's great for questing when u mob from one to another and u start full energy ready to burst.
@@Shyira1 lol don’t sweat it, I really do appreciate the feedback because it helps me become a better rogue and then helps me update these guides the in future :)
@@itsego_tv imo you don't need improved garrote/rupture during leveling (questing). you never get to profit on those, and i don't think there's a place for those in rotation since mobs are dead fast. it's all about having snd always, eviscerate the rest. otherwise good build
i mean just look at your skill bars ,,, boring ,,, i have every slot filled x 3 i plus, shadowstep, shadow dance , prep and premed , just cant beat it , so much more to a rogue then combat 3 button zombie
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Riposte all the way. It inevitably means you take less damage, which means less downtime, which plays a huge part in level speed IMO.
Great note!!
I’ll definitely adjust my talents :)
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@@itsego_tv so its not the "best" build
Great vid. Can’t wait to hit 80 and finally have good AoE as a rogue with fan of knives
Yes!! I’m so excited to have that AOE capability now, it’s also great for spamming out Rogues in PVP if you can’t go stealth :)
ty bro iam new in this job, still learning, very helpfull😁
Why take 2 points into blood splatter if you rarely use rupture?
I tended to use it for chain mob killing really
I wouldn't level my rogue in wotlk as my first character, it gets very very tough at lvl 80 without gear and you have to bandage after every other mob kill.
I'm definitely leveling it as my first but that's because I want to PVP on it haha!
With Herbalism, another free heal with Lifeblood.
any chance
you could list your addons?
Sure - here's all my addons :D
Also thanks so much for being a subscriber, it means a lot :)
I plan to clean some of them up as we move into Wrath because some of them aren't used as much.
Here's the ones I have enabled. I typed them out for you.
Attune
Bag Brother
Bartender4
BetterVendorPrice
ClassicAuraDurations
ClassicCastBars
ClassicCastBarOptions
!DetailsDamageMeter
GearQuipper
Gladdy (PVP Arena Addon)
Inventorian
Leatrix Plus
MapFader
Nova Instance Tracker
OmniBar
OmniCC
PallyPower (essential if you play Paladin)
Quartz
Questie (great addon for quests)
SpellActivationOverlay (great for any class that has procs)
WeakAuras
What's Training?
XToLevel
TradeSkillMaster
DBM (THIS IS A MUST)
There's a few other addons scattered in my game but they're really not essential to me and might be removed.
@@itsego_tv ty though how did you get the cast bar for yourself to show?
@@vague243 so I get all my addons through CurseForge which might have something to do with it
But I think going into the options you can adjust them??
If the ClassicCastBars doesn’t work, Quartz does Cast Bars too I believe:)
i personally level as sub, cause its so many hordes here that i wanna be able to kill them. Also it one shots mobs 1 by one compared to 3 minute cds to pump aoe. Combat feels too slow for me :p have you tried assasination?
I heard Assassination is actually really good so I’m going to try it out!!
I’m assuming you’re on a PVP server if you’re leveling sub?? :)
@@itsego_tv yeah im on thekal and its sooo many hordes, levling as combat would leave me pretty defensless, especially cause they always go 2v1 or more
@@ElevatedLevetator yeah then Sub is definitely gonna be something you’ll have to go HAHA!
God I hate when it’s a 2v1, they can’t just respect the 1v1 y’know??
Sub hemo rogue is insane for leveling, one ambush litteraly does like 80% of a mob's hp. The only bad thing is that you cant just go into group mobs
@@witcherpie yeah and it must suck if you get thrown out of stealth too if they detect you or you have a dot?
I’d imagine it struggles if you’re not behind your target too no?
I’m actually interested to hear more!!
Ty
How good is this build for wpvp? I wanna do some while leveling
It can actually be viable!!
It does do a lot of damage and you can go toe to toe with melee a lot easier than if you were a sub rogue!
This is because you can use Adrenaline Rush to spam down a target mostly.
@@itsego_tv cool! Can I play it with daggers?
@@AntonioMottaAtor Yes you technically can, you can swap the 5 points in "Hack and Slash" for 5 points in "Close Quarters Combat", this will give you increased Crit with daggers. This could be potentially more desirable on PVP servers because by having at least one dagger in your Main Hand you'll be able to use Ambush.
@@itsego_tv tysm for the tips. My server is pvp and it's almost perfect balanced
@@AntonioMottaAtor ouhhh that sounds like an absolute dream - I wish you all the best in your ganking adventures lol
I hope to see you in my future videos!!
Amazing guide? Will use 100%
Have fun!
I hope to see you in future videos!!
hello. im new to the game. where do i check combo points? im assassination rogue
51 in Combat
7 in Assassination
... where are your other 3 points? lol
What is the point of expose armor? Do you ever even use it?
Seems like an ability that would be used on dungeon and raid bosses. Even for soloing elites during questing. If you're going to dungeon level I can see using it but doubt you going to be able to do that as a rogue. My strategy is open world mob farming and bg grinding
glyphs?
Honestly, lot of misinfo in this guide that naieve rogues wouldn't notice, wouldn't recommend these talents at all, without risposte is just not great, and that's just the first thing. Also this isn't how you play combat, you spend on slice and dice all the time unless it's up already, open with shiv with deadly on offhand, just a lot wrong, take rupture off your bars while leveling, waste of energy and cp
I appreciate your feedback!!
These are great notes, I think I did mention that Rupture is really only going to used on longer fights like bosses in dungeons. So I completely agree with you there!
And yeah keeping Slice up is absolutely crucial, I dump extra points into Eviscerate!!
Great notes :)
@@itsego_tv Don't take offense btw, I don't mean it, maybe came across abrupt, but is there for you going forward idk
While that can be true for some, gear matters a lot. I play Assa with the usual combo of x2 Mutilates into Envenom and the mob is dead, no need to SnD or risposte while losing little hp to almost none. It's great for questing when u mob from one to another and u start full energy ready to burst.
@@Shyira1 lol don’t sweat it, I really do appreciate the feedback because it helps me become a better rogue and then helps me update these guides the in future :)
feels kind of weird not to have riposte tbh.
I’ll definitely be adjusting the talents to get it :)
@@itsego_tv imo you don't need improved garrote/rupture during leveling (questing). you never get to profit on those, and i don't think there's a place for those in rotation since mobs are dead fast. it's all about having snd always, eviscerate the rest. otherwise good build
@@vlada_janjanin yeah those are some of the points I’d switch out for sure!!
lol rogues do it from behind,,, so cliché ..SUB without backstab or ambush real pvp
Might as well try out Assassination hahahaha
@@itsego_tv yeah assassination is fun , mutilate spec hit hard and toughness.
@@itsego_tv still sub , ill swap to assassination at 80 im duel spec ass/sub, you loose so many skills as combat
@@pksvkpk4801 nothing wrong with that!!
i mean just look at your skill bars ,,, boring ,,, i have every slot filled x 3 i plus, shadowstep, shadow dance , prep and premed , just cant beat it , so much more to a rogue then combat 3 button zombie
Sub is so fun and it definitely takes up more action slots lol
Don't play rogue.
Too late! :)