Two things: - My god, I want to go back in time and direct the camera shots myself. They missed the first Z-Pull? C'mon, man. - My god, this whole compilation is full of some of the best moments in the history of drum corps. The Garfield staff put some great stuff out there, and the kids really pulled it off. I haven't seen some of these in years, and I'm getting chills over and over.
Nothing can ever replace being there live . . . providing you have good quality audio, (even just a recording) there is no comparison between a G bugle and a Bb band instrument. In this video, the opening (as well as the rest) set and push is just incredible. . . . . why is it so hard for those who were once there, and now, to accept the fact a bugle is a bugle ? And if a brass band tries to imitate the intensity of a bugle, it is grossly overblown.
It was so much better live than it is on video, too. You knew the melody, you KNEW they were going to join back together and "come 'round right", and it was dizzying to have all that motion covering the field. I saw that show only once from the front, and that was at semifinals (during Finals I was in the back stands). People were talking about it all season, and it lived up to the hype.
Wasn't that her that messed up the 1983 solos ? I love that show and especially that part but those missed notes kind of ruin what should have been one of the most beautiful musical pieces in DCI.
@@renorailfanning5465 If you're thinking of an opening solo, no....that was 85 (and the player's lips had been stung by a bee before the finals run). Barbara aged out in 84 and was solid on her solos.
Looking back on this and some early SCV, it's very apparent that those 2 corps changed the drum corps game forever more than any other corps. Everything you see on the field today is grown from a seed planted by these 2 groups. And while the scores didn't always reflect it, there is no denying the innovation and in my opinion, the 2017 Cadets and SCV rank right up there.
One exception Star 93 change the game of what DCI would become to this day even though Cadets won by a fraction and probably political Everyone back then recalls The 93 Star performance because of the innovation, tonality and movement they incorporated thats saying something.
I agree, Star 93 took the foundation laid by SCV and Cadets and built a skyscraper. But if you want to talk about political wins, let's talk about MOST of BDs wins. UGH!
Agreed they are not a corps now more like a corporation not the old school corp we loved, too much same stuff. Entertainment division and own drums which rumor has it pearl sued them for breeching a contract went they went with natal drums for system blue. Too much BS in BD
Yeah in 86, the corps came out with 84 horns (generally a horn line was between 60-64 members at that time) and then at the beginning of the show when the corps' 12 color guard members played brass instruments, temporarily raising the number of horns to 96. 96 Yeah...crazy....
Love Love Love this video. At first I was confused that "Best Moments" were relegated to openers, but I got it pretty quickly. Also, I get why the '83 closer should be left for last, but my heart says otherwise. I watched that '97 company front live, and I knew that I had to do everything I could to wear that uniform someday. And that day I did, I will never forget.
That's because, at the end of the dissolving company front, we reformed where the front would have ended up if we had done a standard company front...but we were in reverse order, so the Contra's had to literally go from one end to the other.
Groundbreaking years. Great staff, great kids. Staff also moved and made Star of Indiana and Carolina Crown great. Jim Prime, Michael Klesch, Donny Vandoren, Tim Bartholomew, Thom Hannum. Hope spelled right!
1980-Birmingham, Alabama. I was there. Marched snare in the Spirit of Atlanta. Didn't get to see Garfield that year. We were probably still at our housing site when they played due to the placement. Memories.
8:06 . . . another corps about to enter the field, breathless with anticipation and of course are saying to themselves, "God I can't wait to get on that field". Kind of thinking that is Madison ?
Alicia Goldstein: You know, I've listened to them since I posted that comment, and I think you're right. At the time, I was comparing from a numeric standpoint lol, why do you think the judges scored them so low? Were there just that many good drumlines that year?
You know what's great? The Cadets still won the championship in 1984, despite having a crappy drumline (in relation to the rest of the corps of course lol the drumline came in 7th at finals). Sounds REALLY familiar to what happened with Crown this past summer, doesn't it?
There never was a "concert formation" in the rules. Corps were rewarded for being "perfect." They were required to move a certain amount of minutes. After the minimum number of minutes moving was factored in the best way to maximize the score according to the rules of the day was to NOT make mistakes, ie, to NOT move. 1983 was the first year of the "build up" General Effect scoring where corps were rewarded for being more exciting so there was much more movement this year and every year afterwards.
I think you'll find 1983 was a hybrid system transitioning to the full build-up system in 1984. In 1983 the build-up system was partially implemented. I think that makes us both right. ;)
I used to make fun of the terrible lateral marching technique of this era where they just point the horn and dont even try to twist their shoulders. Currently: 🤷♂️😕at least they WERE marching.
the most pivotal decade in the history of drum corps
Two things:
- My god, I want to go back in time and direct the camera shots myself. They missed the first Z-Pull? C'mon, man.
- My god, this whole compilation is full of some of the best moments in the history of drum corps. The Garfield staff put some great stuff out there, and the kids really pulled it off. I haven't seen some of these in years, and I'm getting chills over and over.
Nothing can ever replace being there live . . . providing you have good quality audio, (even just a recording) there is no comparison between a G bugle and a Bb band instrument. In this video, the opening (as well as the rest) set and push is just incredible. . . . . why is it so hard for those who were once there, and now, to accept the fact a bugle is a bugle ? And if a brass band tries to imitate the intensity of a bugle, it is grossly overblown.
Truth. As a fellow horn player.
Omg that 85 show was tough as they ever come
So now let's just get back to how awesome the dissolving company front in 1987 is. :) Goosebump city...
What time does that occur? Around 13:09 the company front seems to dissolve.
It's commonly called the "disappearing/reappearing company front. The Cadets made their reputation by doing the usual thing in the most unusual way.
It was so much better live than it is on video, too. You knew the melody, you KNEW they were going to join back together and "come 'round right", and it was dizzying to have all that motion covering the field. I saw that show only once from the front, and that was at semifinals (during Finals I was in the back stands). People were talking about it all season, and it lived up to the hype.
I was in the audience for semis and finals. I can't even explain how jaw dropping it was . It broke my brain.
The Cadets moved more in '86 than they have in recent years combined...
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Lol that is definitely not true
@@DevinEsleck Hi. I’m back to say I was wrong. Lol.
Even though they stood in a double arc for like 3 minutes straight.
Cadets owned the 80's. I was in 84 Freelancers and nobody could catch Garfield. They were way ahead of their time.
Loved '84 Freelancers !
James....we certainly tried, tho! (Maybe we should've poisoned the beef stroganoff we fed them at the border after the Pt. Huron rainout...)
@@samsignorelli it was DEEEEEEEELICIOUS, Sam. 😀
@@bkw1962 And the best meal you got ALL SEASON according to Eric Sabach and Rick Wyngat
You can definitely tell which years they won. There is a crispness and clarity compared to the others.
Wow!!! A great combination of power and grace. Truly a beautiful sound. ❤
15 minutes of Garfield greatness from the 80s and not ONE Barbara Maroney solo?? Sacrilege!!! :p
I could NOT have said it better. Love her. I fall in love all over again every time I watch their '84 performance. LOVE IT.
I think she's the reason I became addicted to Garfield
Wasn't that her that messed up the 1983 solos ? I love that show and especially that part but those missed notes kind of ruin what should have been one of the most beautiful musical pieces in DCI.
@@renorailfanning5465 What? no...
@@renorailfanning5465 If you're thinking of an opening solo, no....that was 85 (and the player's lips had been stung by a bee before the finals run). Barbara aged out in 84 and was solid on her solos.
Looking back on this and some early SCV, it's very apparent that those 2 corps changed the drum corps game forever more than any other corps. Everything you see on the field today is grown from a seed planted by these 2 groups. And while the scores didn't always reflect it, there is no denying the innovation and in my opinion, the 2017 Cadets and SCV rank right up there.
One exception Star 93 change the game of what DCI would become to this day even though Cadets won by a fraction and probably political Everyone back then recalls The 93 Star performance because of the innovation, tonality and movement they incorporated thats saying something.
I agree, Star 93 took the foundation laid by SCV and Cadets and built a skyscraper. But if you want to talk about political wins, let's talk about MOST of BDs wins. UGH!
Agreed they are not a corps now more like a corporation not the old school corp we loved, too much same stuff. Entertainment division and own drums which rumor has it pearl sued them for breeching a contract went they went with natal drums for system blue. Too much BS in BD
For sure the last true testament of a BD win was 1994 that was pure drum corp in your face
And 27th Lancers 1980....wasn't that also Zingali?
at 8:40 was one of the most wildest and greatest drum corps moves I’ve ever seen any corp do
Yeah in 86, the corps came out with 84 horns (generally a horn line was between 60-64 members at that time) and then at the beginning of the show when the corps' 12 color guard members played brass instruments, temporarily raising the number of horns to 96. 96 Yeah...crazy....
@Paul Tomlin 86 was actually Tony Hall (PR's writer thereafter). Zingali was writing for Star that year.
And 8:17.
And 12:34, but the camera cut away.
Just wow!
Love Love Love this video. At first I was confused that "Best Moments" were relegated to openers, but I got it pretty quickly. Also, I get why the '83 closer should be left for last, but my heart says otherwise. I watched that '97 company front live, and I knew that I had to do everything I could to wear that uniform someday. And that day I did, I will never forget.
The contrabass bugler starting around 13:10 is ridiculously fast.
That's because, at the end of the dissolving company front, we reformed where the front would have ended up if we had done a standard company front...but we were in reverse order, so the Contra's had to literally go from one end to the other.
Groundbreaking years. Great staff, great kids. Staff also moved and made Star of Indiana and Carolina Crown great. Jim Prime, Michael Klesch, Donny Vandoren, Tim Bartholomew, Thom Hannum. Hope spelled right!
1980-Birmingham, Alabama. I was there. Marched snare in
the Spirit of Atlanta. Didn't get to see Garfield that year. We
were probably still at our housing site when they played due
to the placement. Memories.
Some the greatest Mellaphone lines
Fascinating that every show before 1981 was Garfield Cadets dating back to the post WWII era. Everything after 1981 belonged to the 21st century.
New World Order lol.
Love the 82 show
Segment 1:21 / 14:58 reminds me of Star Of Indys Roman show Mellophones.
12:30 - such a clean final chord!
Thanks so much for making this! What a great drum corps.
8:06 . . . another corps about to enter the field, breathless with anticipation and of course are saying to themselves, "God I can't wait to get on that field". Kind of thinking that is Madison ?
According to the performance order on the recaps for 82 finals, Garfield went on 8th, so the corps coming in is Madison.
The truly very best corp there ever was.
Was that Al Chez playing that high concert C around 1:00 ?
Yes. And at 11:08, that's Jeff Sacktig, drill designer from 1995-2000 and 2002-2014. (He was the contra player w/ the sop mouthpiece.)
No, it was not Al Chez. It was Allen Newton.
Alicia Goldstein: You know, I've listened to them since I posted that comment, and I think you're right. At the time, I was comparing from a numeric standpoint lol, why do you think the judges scored them so low? Were there just that many good drumlines that year?
True. The Blue Devils' drumline was amazing that year, as was SCV's...
Love this sight
... there to see 7 out of 10 of these years in person.
But 2:05 is when I was locked-in as a fan for life. Nothing like getting your face blown off with that.
Now I get why our high school band was trying to copy them back in the 80s. Ridiculously fast, clean and exciting.
Wasn't Star Trek TV show music right after One Voice? (First segment)
Garfield was awesome back in the70 s come back to NJ kick ass good luck JP from paterson
SUPERB
You know what's great? The Cadets still won the championship in 1984, despite having a crappy drumline (in relation to the rest of the corps of course lol the drumline came in 7th at finals). Sounds REALLY familiar to what happened with Crown this past summer, doesn't it?
"Crappy drumline" - they were good. Better than the judges thought they were. But yes, they only won because of design and GE.
Oh, and thing is, they both had Thom Hannum writing. :-)
Wow I never knew that
Thanks for reminding me....damn it.
What year was the "concert formation" requirement done away with?
There never was a "concert formation" in the rules. Corps were rewarded for being "perfect." They were required to move a certain amount of minutes. After the minimum number of minutes moving was factored in the best way to maximize the score according to the rules of the day was to NOT make mistakes, ie, to NOT move.
1983 was the first year of the "build up" General Effect scoring where corps were rewarded for being more exciting so there was much more movement this year and every year afterwards.
That was 1984, not 1983. 1983 was the last year of the tick system.
I think you'll find 1983 was a hybrid system transitioning to the full build-up system in 1984. In 1983 the build-up system was partially implemented. I think that makes us both right. ;)
The end of the concert era was never formalized....but we pretty much killed it in 84 with La Fiesta.
1980-1983: the ascent
Wow not a whole lot of 89 on here 😢
I do own the "Corps of the '80's" double CD...I think that's the title.
Some of the best, but no Barb....... :(
1987!!
1985 :)
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God bless the Garfield Holy Name Cadets!!!!!
I used to make fun of the terrible lateral marching technique of this era where they just point the horn and dont even try to twist their shoulders.
Currently: 🤷♂️😕at least they WERE marching.
Guess we didn't like 81 so much, huh.
I love it. It's the most critical year they ever had, too. But there's just the one clip in this whole montage.
But 86 was tough too
nnn
Not sarcasm. :-P