Acheron Remembers the Trailblazer (Cutscene) Penacony Arc | Honkai Star Rail 2.0
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2024
- Acheron meets the Trailblazer and questions them, clip taken from the Trailblaze Mission "Long Day's Journey Into the Night" from the new Penacony Region
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Have you checked Male MC and acheron dialog? It referenced in the other game
Female MC: SHOULDER to shoulder (honkai 3rd)
Male MC : crossed sword (genshin)
anyone here after 2.2? can we just appreciate she killed our dreamself over and over again until we were ready to fight sunday
So we were dreaming all this time. Repeating the same thing over and over 😂
It's hard to know as it seems like the empty LC was the key... so wtf is different??? I'll assume 2.3 will expand a bit more into how tf this all works.
After watching this again, I have a theory where the storyline of Penacony is like a loop. We lost to Sunday, leading to events from versions 2.0 to 2.2 playing out repeatedly. Everything happens similarly until Sunday wins, creating a reality that's familiar but more confusing. This explains various character actions and odd events (sparkle’s info dumps, aventurine’s plan, misha being able to go into the irl hotel, firefly’ closeness to us, and being excited to see us when we don’t even know her).
Sunday knew he had already won and, with Mr. Gopherwood, just needed to eliminate Acheron. Acheron, losing her memories, couldn’t tell which loop she was in, which is why she remarked in 2.0 that it felt like multiple versions of us were responding at once. To her, all responses overlapped from different loops.
Sunday ultimately loses because he didn't account for Acheron's plan. She takes the title of Galaxy Ranger and pulls in others like Boothill to wake everyone up in Penacony. The Trailblazer's sensitivity helps them sense that this reality is false, and they see "visions" of the future because it’s the last point they had a linear view of time.
After entering Penacony, we were stuck in a loop until Sunday was beaten, but this just continued the cycle. It wasn’t until Acheron set her plan in motion that we truly woke up. Her goals as a self-annihilator and releasing Tiernman to the afterlife with the rest of the departed crew.
Misha gave us the legacy due to multiple coincidences in this loop:
- Acheron contacting and getting Boothill into the dreamscape
- Firefly/Sam making contact after 11 tries (previous loops)
- Following Aventurine’s plan to escape the loop
- Letting Sparkle and Gallagher act
- Trailblazer making contact
This loop allowed breaking Ena’s control due to Mikhail’s legacy being passed, letting Gallagher and Misha truly depart. Xipe would not gaze upon the Trailblazer if these events had happened repeatedly without the legacy passing.
Sunday didn’t apprehend Acheron earlier because he couldn’t remember. The loop had to play out as before for his win, and until he fully merged with reality, he couldn't change the loop. He could only intervene after gaining power, possibly during the Sunday boss fight.
The loop theory keeps the timeline straight, explaining characters like Sparkle and Firefly acting strangely in 2.0. It's similar to "Bendy and the Ink Machine," where a cycle repeats until the protagonist finally breaks out. Acheron praised Firefly for waking up early from the loop, likely due to her past experiences and brainwashing, helping Acheron wake everyone up.
Well nope... but I feel like it was just misha calling out to us. After all when we entered the dreamscape, we've had flashes of misha himself. And we would've already met him technically by then before the defeat.
@@netherfire50Maybe it was just Misha calling us, but the game says Misha only appears in dreams. Notice that we (the Trailblazer) have experienced multiple flashbacks before starting our journey. For example, we see Misha before entering Penacony and have a flashback about Jarilo-VI before going there, as seen during the first battle on the train together with Dan Heng, Himeko and March 7thjourney (edit: it was in the cutscene where we fight the doomsday beast)
This suggests the Stellaron inside us allows us to foresee future events. These flashbacks might be hints, preparing us for what lies ahead. Misha’s appearances, combined with our visions, could be important guidance.
Our ability to see these flashbacks might explain why events sometimes feel familiar (like Deja vu). It's all thanks to the Stellaron’s power inside us somehow we can see the future things that will happen soon in our journey.
Remember:Positive and wholesome story
MC dies in a dream within 30 mins of the 2.0 quest.(The censored blood reminds me of zom 100 anime)
She cried as if she’s trying to protect trailblazer
From who tho? Well, if I killed someone who has so much emotional attachment to me, surely I would be crying too.
I think that's the drawback using her time stop ability.
Imagine if all our answers to the red colored questions lead to different endings/scenes played out in the future.
Also, the line: "How interesting. For a split second i felt like countless versions of you, alike yet distict, gave entirely different responses." could allude to players choosing at that same time, therefore breaking the 4th wall in every players game.
I think it also possibly alludes to the fact that Trailblazer seems to have greater control over their own fate thematically… or maybe literally. Acheron seemed caught off guard, like she had never sensed that before. She may have the power to see the fate of others, she always talks like she knows the future. Idk, she is hiding something though.
My God Acheron is so pretty, and Allegra Clark fits the role perfectly.
Yeah, I agree. Am glad they didn't just slap Shogun's va because She's RAIDEN
I like how one moment she sounds so done with everything and then acts jokingly the next. Also how caring she sounds towards the Trailblazer. Can't convince me she's the bady. not Mihoyo's favorite child.
Dont talk like that about my gf
@@Cba409 she's not just your GF
@@ArchonKujo blasphemy
5:20 It's funny when you take into account that the lines Acheron says are pretty much Honkai Impact references.
When she talks about an old friend who stood shoulder to shoulder with her (Stelle)- Kiana
When she talks about memories of a person she crossed blades with, (Caelus) she was either referring to Kevin or Adam
That's not a hi3 reference there was one though that was quoting yae Sakura but when she was talking about a person standing shoulder to shoulder with her she was talking about frebass you can read the lore on pioneer set idk who she was referring too when it's a male version tho
@@thehunt895 Elysian Realm Kevin. He is the one that introduced Mei that place and uncovered the truth, the path she took was one which ultimately crossed blades with Kevin.
@@thehunt895 It is a honkai reference, it references a certain cutscene where Kiana,mei and bronya were fighting Kevin so in this case, Stelle=Kiana Caelus=Kevin
I think it's not HI3 or Kiana reference. It is at least second dream loop she experienced in this story. Fast flashbacks in the begining and characters dialogs are the proof
this is so interesting to watch after the 2.2 quest. I didn't realize she asked the same exact questions as here :o
I think one of the craziest things I've seen about Acheron is that your choices during this conversation cause her to respond differently to your words when you meet her in the hotel room later. Picking the same dialogue options, and getting a different response in red text from other players? Hoyoverse really is fucking with us at this point and I completely love it.
I KNEW IT, SOMETHING FELT OFF WHEN I ENCOUNTERED THIS and whats more is i felt like these red texts might change the outcome of something.. i dont know but something.
Acheron, my QUEEN!! 💜✨
Oh god...
10:14
Damn..
Did she speerun scissors together😅
This scene holds so much more weight when you finish the story quest
If Acheron is Mei, then I feel like it's déjà vu here?
This reminded me of the meeting between Kevin and Raiden Mei in HI3. I then wondered if Kevin remembered Dr. Mei when he saw Raiden. And here, in fact, Acheron remembered Kiana when she saw Stelle. It's like Kevin passed on his curse to her.
I have a suspicion, since Luocha was basically Otto if he retained his sanity, Himeko was a scientist instead of teacher and Natasha was basically Raven if she hadn't decided to become a merc... that this timeline's full of what-if's, and Kiana is dead in this timeline
Emo Expy Mei is cooking
Acheron's dialogue could imply a few things, either she had dealt with the Stellaron Hunters in the past and has met Stelle before when she was still among them or it could just be a case of mistaken identity?
I like how many people are like: yeah I would do trail blazing and I am like: bro I got forced into a train do you think I had a choice in the beginning?
The texts in red are his other personality, she has a second form, I wouldn't be surprised if he had two personalities a calm and sad one in purple and a sadistic and aggressive one in red
He????
Mmm Let doubt about it, dont think it is a double personality of her, will say better that the red text was precisely to remark the reasoning and importance of Dreamscape and all related to it (Still not played penacony), for me it is like a loop (obviously) of successions/different realities for each and only one true.
@@notpklol2587 they can't use pronouns
@@sleepykoharu nvm he finally notice his mistake
@@sleepykoharu Who is he? Who are they? Am i lost?
Cat was claiming her favorite spot on my laptop and completely random picked choices for the conversation 😂
thx for sharing this now i know what they were talking about
Oh my.. It's already out? 2.0?!
I guess each response doesn't change the dialogues
I get Dainsleif vibes with the 3 questions thing 😂
Is she referring to the "Unto Death"'s red eyes? Did we loose and are trapped by it before Penacony even started?
Robin!!
2:45 Is that Oppenheimer reference?
“Now i have become death, the destroyer of worlds”
Probably
If Acheron is Mei, then I feel like it's déjà vu here?
This reminded me of the meeting between Kevin and Raiden Mei in HI3. I then wondered if Kevin remembered Dr. Mei when he saw Raiden. And here, in fact, Acheron remembered Kiana when she saw Stelle.
It's like Kevin passed on his curse to her. You can't be with your lover, and you remember her when you see someone like her. As if this would not be transmitted to Stelle😅.
Beidou! 👏
"Come with me" - from another dimension:D
Seele is with Bronya
Acheron is with Trailblazer
Acheron with the trailblazer is like Kiana and raiden mai.
Acheron is with Black Swan
True
@@darrentalvinnoli8133 - and to a cetain extent (going by Chinese VAs), Mei is with Ke🅱️in (Caelus).
@@justaguy2023 Be a nice twist if the real Kiana was dead, but Stelle was a Homunculus of her (Hopefully not, but you know Hoyoverse)
Beidou on the Board:D
Kiana stelle acheron, future trio
an soo ... the gentle blade from . raiden mai.......
Does this ost have a name!? @4:00
I chose Caelus and she remembers him crossing blades with her... The story seems to be somewhat different for the male and female MC(at least the lore seems to be somewhat)
People are saying it's a Honkai impact reference, meaning she must be like Welt or she's referring to the counterparts of the same characters
I may sound crazy but I think when she asked have me meet before, is referring to genshin’s MC and Raiden. They sharing the memories maybe? crossed blades in a different plane where time didn’t flow
if anything, this is a refrence to Kiana and Mei. We all know Acheron is a Mei expy and star rail and honkai impact are already cannonly connected
@@herrscherofboobsShe actually references Genshin if you play Caelus. Instead of telling that we fought back to back she says that we crossed our blades
@@maxduck6424 Kiana and Kevin??
@@maxduck6424 She references Kiana if you play Stelle, and Kevin or Adam if you play Caelus. This is because Finality moving backwards. They have met in the future but Finality moves backwards so this is their "first" meeting in the timeline. Kiana is a part of finality and something happened in APHO 3 that dawei won't release because it explains too many things on HSR. Acheron is also a proper variant of Mei like Genshin Ei is, not an Expy of APHO Mei (Yayi) which we will meet at possibly v4.
@@TrollBishbaalkin So what you're saying is, Bronya filled Mei in on Welt's whereabouts and she tracked him under the guise of "Acheron" (Similar to how Welt adopted the name "Welt Yang" in the timeline), but due to her power as the Herrscher of Finality - she ultimately ended up forgetting what her objective was (If that's the case, that explains why despite Acheron looking like APHO Mei - her face still gave Herrscher of Finality vibes)
Here after the payoff.
What if: The stable stellaron which was inserted in the artificial body, that Kafka created is some sort of remains of Kiana? And Acheron indeed Mei?
maybe acheron has mei's memories....
you were cooking so hard with both of those
Yo, isn't Acheron 's eng va Allegra bloodhound va as well
As a Titanfall 2 Pulse Blade main, seems she is my type.
When she said old friend is she saying that the trailblazer maybe Kiana
What if thats the same raiden mei from Honkai impact 3??
I think she might be referring to Kafka, Raiden is still active in HI3rd so it wouldn’t make sense for her to exist both in HSR and HI3rd at the same time. It makes sense for Welt because welt disappeared from HI3rd.
Kafka is essentially the mom of the MC, so she carried Kafka’s essence with them. They also both follow the path of Nihility, and represent Nihility to its most extreme lore wise
Based on my knowledge, gender pronounce changes depending on the gender of the Trailblazer. If he is male - friend is he. So likely Trailblazer before memory loss.
Its the mc cause depending on the gender of your mc acheron will say "he/she" while reminiscing about her old friend
@@cyavu530 If it was Akivili, they/them would've been used. If Celinova- he or she as Emanators are gendered. But her response depends solely on gender of protagonist He OR She depending on it. So it is likely Trailblazer.
9:21
So in this timeline Kiana's dead so Mei became a lone ranger. Great
So this pretty much confirms that the MC is related to Kiana right?
Do the answers we give affect anything?
Yeah...Some of them do
Lik what bro@@justaguy2023
@@justaguy2023can it will skip some cutscenes or something or its just skip some story what gonna happen
im really confused about the red texts, what do they truely mean?
Based on this new 2.1 quest that was just released, I’m still trying to understand why acheron askes if we remember her, and why she killed us in our dream. Does she remember that she did this? Does the trailblazer remember? I feel like she only talked to us because she knew we were tied to the stellaron hunters, maybe. I’m still confused, does anyone want to explain?
Perhaps we were also sent to her domain expansion like A********e. Perhaps she has already told us the truth about penacony and decided to slash our memories after we left. You can tell she definitely ulted us indicated by her one eye tearing and us getting slashed without seeing it because time stopped which further support the idea that she ulted.
2.2 ending is the answer
idk who she is reminiscing totally can't guess unless... and ye after this will be my own theory read at your own risk it not correct it from my brain(I didn't finish penacony yet)
I think she related to trailblazer from the question since after all we trailblazer are one of the amnesia protagonist which mean we and her probably met before and maybe a friend? I hope it lover but that just because I'm simping hard ignore that I think she know us before. we go with Kafka when she Stellaron hunter and she galaxy ranger there no way she know us as friend unless something happen and she get out of stellaron hunter like you know a former member something like that before become galaxy ranger because Elio plan is to sent Traiblazer to fight Nanook and she gladly become the enemy of her former stellaron hunter group so I think traiblazer fight her and got end traiblazer lose with the scenario of
"I will gladly become the enemy of everything in universe if that mean I can save you"
OR
"If saving you is a sin then I gladly become a sinner" except this time the sin is dead of all cuz Nanook go boom boom /kill @e
no she will not be mei no way she is alternate universe mei there no kiana or tuna that she will be enemy with. the only one that is her enemy and is the opposite of her that she maybe actually trying to save is us trailblazer because we walk and follow the script in the end we need to fight nanook which is the most dangerous in the universe
Acheron is Acheron Mei is Mei Kiana is Kiana and Trailblazer is Trailblazer so if you want to put it into perspective of X
then it MeixKina and for Acheron is AcheronxTraiblazer
after all Traiblazer is goofy funny can't cook(I mean who the hell try to make fried rice with ingredient from trash) possibly cheerful and positive not as much as march7th tho she more close to Elysia in my own perspective
Well that just my theory the not finish story yet theory gonna edit after finish since after all penacony support to be chill carefree and upbeat! Shaoji told me that I know he can redeem himself!
if you read it all thank for listen to my yap for all that aint reading all allat I think Acheron is alternate universe Mei except she love Traiblazer not Kiana
it, not a chill and upbeat story Shaoji lied to me it, 's not true Acheron you were suck ass!!!! do something....you speedblitz me!!! and you can't even save her....emanator of death and finality my ass! the only thing you gonna get is me turn into fucking hybrid Herrscher of Dead and Finality fuck Kiana Fuck Otto went beyond them I will just be Caelus Kaslana Apocalypse Vollerei
in the end, I'm gonna be Herrscher of the end one must end everything to start a new a universe where she can be happy...
Should I keep trying to pull for black swan or skip for Acheron
skip
@@k-skope7562 what about sparkle , is she a skip too
If you have a dot team pull for black swan, if you use either dhil or qingque pull for sparkle and if you have don’t have either of these go for acheron
Depends on your account & line up bro.
If you have Kafka, you might want to pull for Black Swan. Otherwise, you can skip like me.
@@dikafirmansyah6779 who are you going for cause I couldn’t get black swan cause I got welt so I have gurantee saved
Why are her words in red
That's something you will understand when penacony quest almost nears its end.
@@justaguy2023 so like 2.6
Guys.. lemme know if there’s a dialogue option(to skip the whole quest lul like the Kafka one)