I think most of us realize this group of archaeological diggers, intellectuals & good guys, of course Phil is included...lol. Joking aside, the "cast" makes you feel you're with your best buddies, out doing something with the same passion. Have a few brews afterwards & pledging never to lose touch with one another. Tho, we often do, later thinking of those times we've lost & this show reminds us we're never truly parted from lifelong friends. It's 2023, nearly 10 years since the show ended & we still love this show from around the world fans. Call your old friends today & surprise them. Me? I'm calling my son,tho I do every week.
If they do come to your town make sure you have the boats and the life jackets ready. Flood insurance might be a good idea as well. Those poor guys are always getting drenched.
This video is labeled "Time Team S13-E12 Scotch Broth, Applecross, Near Skye", but I just watched Tony say we are in West Sussex, the Roman road between Chichester and London. As a Yank I am not totally up on UK geography but I think we are a long way from Skye and Scotland...Nice episode anyway ! - signed, Drew "The Scot" Anderson
@@grengd Well, as far as we know, the romans didn't have GPS when they built the mansio. Maybe they just got it wrong. And ignore Headwind-1. Sounds like he's bragging, as in "You got near, I made it!", or maybe he just didn't understand you either.
You lose something when when you "replace" the hand and eye of the artist, just like you lose something when you "send up the drone" instead of sending up two skilled and observant people in a helicopter.
Thanks to those who have uploaded *Time Team.* I missed a lot of them when I was in hospital and now I'm able to (slowly!) catch up. That was in 2016 and now, in 2020, I have caught up - and I still watch it again and again. 👍
Phil has a new hat with a very fine, if small Teal feather. So much fun, even the rain feels cozy amongst friends sharing a beer & their common frustration with more good British humour, no doubt.
I think Mr Ainslie is, just, the most interesting one of the team. He may not usually seem as enthusiastic as Phil Harding (or the others) but his knowledge and logic are exemplary. And he’s fun!
Aimee Brass; In high school, mid fifties, They taught us to use a compass and a topographic map to find where we were. We thought we were ready to rule the world. so, yeah, even if you never used the knowledge it feels good to know. Of course, sixty years later I couldn't see the map if I could find it. :-)
Thanks for posting. I love the early Roman history of So. England. I had the opportunity once to stay in Chichester and see the remains of Romans and the Fishbourne Palace. Fascinating.
nice to see, real people, doing real work, not much of that left, these days, and, i do miss the team, they were like, watching, a second family, and yes im a dinosaur
Michelle Twidwell; I have a love/hate relationship with his hats. When he gets a new one I don't whether to hug him or kick him in the shin. Except that one time they gave him a new 'stone age' hat woven and sewed from hemp. That's my favorite. :-)
@@haroldraby Yeah, he takes all the ribbing in good part, doesn't he? He loves to wind people up. Sometimes, people like that are less than apt to enjoy being the object of the joke. John Gater is a lot like that, I think.
If you’ve even seen John Gater outside time team he is absolutely hilarious which certainly isn’t the take away on this show. He’s got a great sense of humor. But speaking of hats, Miles certainly made a choice
That's what I love about this show . 2 seconds before the opening theme song starts and I already see crop marks in the background . Any moment Francis is going to parachute in with his trowel 🤣 *In all seriousness though how come they sometimes have on hard hats and sometimes don't . I'm guessing it's probably heavy equipment behind the camera that we don't see but I'm still curious. *Last thing . I mean when y'all say motel I'm assuming y'all mean fortified hotel like the old Western forts in the US . A place you could pull the wagons with your goods and wealth inside a walled enclosure for protection . Maybe a better example would be the forts along the silk road ... I'm assuming it's more that than motel 6
This would seem to be S13 E12 "The Taxman's Tavern - A Roman Mansio", Alfoldean, Horsham, Sussex, 9 April 2006. The Skye one is S13 E13 "Scotch Broch" Applecross near Skye, Scottish Highlands, 16 April 2006 (i.e. the next one). Evidence: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Time_Team_episodes#Series_13_.282006.29
This episode, S13E12 is cross-labeled with S13E12. This is the Taxman's Tavern, Sussex. E13 is Scotch Broch, Applecross. Note that E13 doesn't appear on the channel page. Look at the suggestions or search for it. It is in the playlist.
I love this show, everyone is so bright and, usually, so respectful. But around minute 44 in this episode Tony says that this is a luxury place with “all the services a traveller would have expected”. And then we have this conversation: Tony: “I’ve pulled up into the mansio, what do I get for my money?” Neil Holbrook: “You’re a very important person, Tony, you would get a room for yourself, I’m sure, … you can go out, perhaps have your dinner in the dining room, have a bath, AND A FEW ALTERNATIVE ATTRACTIONS, PERHAPS A FEW GIRLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.” Tony: “FANTASTIC!” WHAT?????? Tony????
In addition to reversed episodes, it's "Broch" not "Broth". Broth is soup ... It's all a little confusing when you first look at it, but I am very fond of TT and you're our number one provider. Thank you!
The mansio is visible as crop marks and the satellite images used for this area on Google Earth are very high resolution. You can make out other features and even see individual furrows in the fields. 51°05'07.7"N 0°24'19.4"W
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 I found this series sometime around June of the Plague Year, and it has been keeping me interested in the world. I live in Ohio. Yeah, that place -- the flyover state where Hollywood likes to set its "average American" sitcoms. (There's some truth in that, but I won't belabor it unless someone shows interest.) Around here, white guy archaeology goes back only to about 1800. But there are such gorgeous Hopewell culture earthworks that date from about 500 years before up to the same time as, the Roman mansio featured in this episode. This is in no way to say that our archaeology is somehow cooler than y'all's (I'm not an Ohio native). I was floored on the A12 to see little villages from the flyovers with sweet little thatched-roof stone houses ... with flippin' *satellite dishes* perched on said thatching! People were living, skating the interwebs, and flushing toilets in houses that were built before Europeans even knew there was a continent in the Atlantic between them and Asia. That's some exceptionally cool above-ground archaeology.
14:50 I think they overlooked a big thing about Romans. When the Roman Army marched, at the end of the day they made temporary camps all over the place. I'd make perfect sense for someone to later reuse the earthworks to build and operate a fortified hotel in.
I don't think that they overlooked it, I think that they realised that the later fort/tax station/mansio would have effectively obliterated any traces. A waystation like *Alfoldean* would have been much larger than any temporary camp and, knowing the place as well as I do, such a camp would be effectively impossible to find. The eastern edge of the site/field goes right up to the river *Adur.* To the west is *Stane Street* itself, to the north the modern main road to *Horsham* and, beyond the miniature effective _vicus,_ a private estate of sorts to the south.
Maybe there will eventually be a subject rating system for these shows; R for Roman,A for Anglo,N for Norman,NL for Neo-lithic,etc.Not a huge fan of Roman anything,so these are very nice to have available,but it seems Roman ruins basically look alike.All linear and non-descript.Thanks for loading them,all the same!
These videos are a real time machine - archeology - 20 yrs of shows - and who knows how many years of comments, most of them lost in time as people find and view - Well here's my comment - Ditches - so much effort, yards / meters wide and deep, here truly massive 3, 6 more meters / yards! As defenses the ramparts would have had to have been just as MASSIVE. Earth at best can be 'stacked' at 60 degrees at the cost of almost instant erosion, 45 degrees can be maintained if quickly planted. In either case erosion would have been major, up to feet per year in areas refilling ditches or depositing over interior 'habitable' areas of enclosure. If wood had been used to retain earth, a major forest would have been leveled - at HUGE effort and sucking up MEGA resources that could have been used for economically productive efforts most of which would have really been needed just to survive or provide the tiny surpluses needed to provide for growth and bad times. Also, after setting so much timber, why not just rely on that with smaller 'moat' Multiple 10 foot wide and deep moats with 10 x 20 earth 'wall' would indicate MAJOR ACTIVE threats, in the 1000s with heavy siege catapults, which case the Romans would have mobilized the army and if necessary exterminate the peoples 'acting out'. If it's 'petty' theft it's hard to imagine the more prosperous well heeled Romanized wouldn't have had the pull to get the Romans to beat on the local criminal gangs / families. If it's wild life, geeze, Brits had been living off just about every square foot of land for a couple of thousand years so short of a temp pig explosion, seems unlikely dangerous bear, herds of ruminants, even packs of wolves would have been that plentiful. There needs to be an ECONOMIC reason for such massive excavations. An economic benefit that will continue to provide a return, or is continually needed. Also, having spent decades rebuilding the familes part of an original land grants 'manor' 200 yrs old in the US, mostly on my own, I can attest that when you are resource poor, ie, can't hire out at will, can't afford redoing work, ie all work has to dove tail with other work, synergies need to be identified and capitalized on, efforts now might end up being part of work finished decades down the line. Therefore.... ditches, yes, defensive, well, would in times of strife allow a levy something to line up behind as a force multiplier, yes tends to keep wild animals out, yes tends to make it hard for inhabitants and travelers to scoff off avoiding taxes. However, what else are they good for. MATERIAL RESOURCES with the PRIMARY benefit being 'fill'. Especially as soil is 'clayish'. First off, leveling land as even 'level' farm fields are anything but level when flattened out into a huts floor, courtyard, street, square, rough roads augmenting 'Roman Roads', diking drainage to create fields, small dams for irrigation fish ice harvesting wet areas for reed beds for roofing. Raising dwellings etc floors higher than surrounding lands (as any camper will attest sleeping at 'grade' is problematic. This requires MASSIVE amounts of material, and often CONTINUING especially if drainage isn't cleverly designed, erosion controlled. Part of wattle wall fill that would have been primary construction material. Rough pottery - at least for poor / or early on (I've run into clay and sun baked it into useable objects, even if just temp scoops, animal feeders, plant pots). Finally, who dug them. Immensely costly to line up 50, 100 and have them dig for a few years straight with endless supplies of hundreds of wooden tools, as common metal shovels hoes rakes were centuries away yet. They could have been built over decades actually by PRISIONERS, working off sentence, or as make work for those being supported by state or wealthy until labor vitally needed, harvests, war, etc. AND AS FILL MATERIALS ARE NEEDED. A one meter / yard square trench becoming 2, 5, and eventually the 100 plus square meter cross sections you found. FYI Roman through US military tested and have found a healthy man can excavate and move a useful distance maybe 3 cubic yards of relatively soft earth ie no major rock or gravel, a day. do the math. 80,000 cu yds roughly in these trenches 22,000 DAYS OF LABOR, 10 men, requiring 5 women to cook clean make clothes etc 20 resulting children and 100 men to grow enough surplus to feed those workers, and their support staff, potters, thatchers, soldiers, tax collectors, would have taken 2200 plus days of digging. That's not including palisading the dirt into the 'defensive wall' double it for that. Double or triple for that. Of course a 10,000 strong legion could have done it in 2 days, assuming no one spent any time making camp cooking defending preventing drunkenness deseretions gambling whoring stealing (ie establishing an enclosed encampment to control said troops as much as defend them, by the legions more opportunistic criminal element. So more like a week or two or four or eight depending on weather. Of course it would take tens of thousands of locals to support that legion building out that heavily defended but empty settlement, and again a few miles up the road as it did another and another. Then ongoing as civilian builders followed to fill the settlements with buildings. That is, of course, NOT how it was done with the exception of legionairres year round bases. Leaving again such other development as this to construction over time, DECADES, acheolgically a blink of the eye, an instant in time a lifetime to the peoples making the archeology happen. Well that was fun, another sinus headache medicated to relief and another chance for a half nights rest. Hope this someday makes it into someones thesis somewhere.
@@blackbird5634 Thank you. It's a word I know but here in *Britain* I've only ever heard it preceded by _old._ As *Phil's* only a couple of years older than me *_I_* don't consider him old. 🙃
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 My beard's as gray as yours, and I roll a bit sideways when I walk, so I'm a bit of a 'codger' too! Absolutely LOVE Phil on the show! The show's helped me a lot with this 'lockdown' and I'm there with the guys more than once a week as they explore. Be well.
I would like to walk around and talk to all the archaeology specialists like Phil and Stewart. Would even do a round or two of field walking with geophys.
Strange how some of these are blocked and others not. Is there a reason for this weird pattern of can and can't watch? Surely C4 would want to block them all and as these are in series order they could just block the lot in one fell swoop?
Ah! Here is the description that goes with the video I just watched, at Applecross, called "Time Team S13-E13 The Taxman's Tavern, Alfoldean, Sussex". Maybe the titles and descritions were swapped between the two.
Funnily enough the *United Kingdom* became that when the *King James VI* of *Scotland* took the *English* throne starting our *House of Stuart* line of monarchs as *King James I* of the *United Kingdom.*
The *Romans* decided that it wasn't worth invading *Scotland* at first, then they did and went at least a hundred miles into the country (and built garrisons/forts there) and then they didn't. They traded with the *Scottish* tribes along the border though there were occasional skirmishes. The *Picts* were just one of many native tribes in *Scotland.*
It's interesting that the site fell into disuse because the Roman taxman quit coming around, when a larger deposit of iron elsewhere needed greater attention. It's odd how much of Archaeology can be attributed to a change in taxes, too. I'd bet the Roman tollbooth persisted longer than the posh accommodations. Just thinkin...
please help haven't found the right "Scotch Broch" near Skye - yet. . Even not with the episode guide. Please. Have to watch it ! Could ya send me the roight link ? Thx !
I only started watching the series in the last year. The episodes aren't posted in any kind of chronological order, so, I get a young Tony one night, and an old Mick the next. But I've never seen, and am curious as to why/how, the 3 day format of filming was adopted. Can anybody inform me?
If you write "Time Team Episodes" in the UA-cam search, you will likely get a list of episodes. The format is usually "Time Team S04-E2" so you should be able to locate them by season and save them to your Watch Later list. The three day format is a convention made up by the late archeologist and Time Team original member Mick Aston when the program was first proposed. He figured that three days should be enough to figure out the general idea of a site and the idea caught on. Time Team never intended to perform comprehensive digs, but they were able to decipher what was going on in a site more often than not.
BlueSaphire70 Thank you. I'm actually a little saddened to hear Mick has passed! I really like the show, and the way that different disciplines are combined to execute and interpret the dig.
I know.... I too was saddened to hear of Mick's passing. I think he really enjoyed his profession and was the very image of the absent-minded professor with his colorful sweaters and flowing white hair. I've tried to find out what happened, but I haven't been able to find the cause of death. Time Team's last season was last year, which was one year after his death. I really enjoy this show, but I guess it's best that they stopped when they were still good and especially if there wasn't much of a "team" left.
BlueSaphire70 I also seem to recall an interview with him where he mentioned that the 3day thing was a statement he made to a friend on which the show was based. After three days you have a pretty good idea of what you are dealing with in 85% of the cases. And the friend, who worked for the BBC told Aston to put his money where his mouth was and they made a show around it. In a sidenote, it is wonderful to think that time team did not only have an impact on the public watching it. The archaeological world took notice too. Emergency excavations (that have to be fast due to matters beyond their control) took lessons from time team to heart and learned to anticipate problems the show faced from time to time. Finally, the european Malta Accords with relation to Archaeology seem to have taken Time Team to heart as well. Insofar that in signatory countries, if you are building a house with a cellar, archaeologists are allowed to excavate to the exact depth of your foundations but not below. if you're going to put in a pool in your garden in germany, belgium or france (for example), archaeologists are allowed to come dig the hole (as it were) so nothing is lost. This is, in some parts, a result of this show. Since it proved to alot of people that archaeological work doesn't take years, it can take just a week. Finally, if no other reason were to exist to prove the use of Time Team, then this comment thread would still validate its existence and useability. I've learned things from reading and replying here. And I doubt there is anyone who reads this who can honestly say they did not.
Why is the title of this mixed up with the Roman Tavern episode? The one titled Roman Tavern in Alfodean is the one about Scottich brach's in Applecross!
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In Sir Tony's introduction there is an example of a (small) annoying but occasionally reoccurring feature of his narratives. Misinformation! In this case; the Romans did not call that road 'Stane Street'.
A good question. I don't know but keep looking. I only know these are fairly modern names. I have Guy de la Bedoyere's book "Roman Britain" andin it he only uses modern road names.
I think most of us realize this group of archaeological diggers, intellectuals & good guys, of course Phil is included...lol. Joking aside, the "cast" makes you feel you're with your best buddies, out doing something with the same passion. Have a few brews afterwards & pledging never to lose touch with one another. Tho, we often do, later thinking of those times we've lost & this show reminds us we're never truly parted from lifelong friends.
It's 2023, nearly 10 years since the show ended & we still love this show from around the world fans.
Call your old friends today & surprise them. Me? I'm calling my son,tho I do every week.
I live in an area of perennial drought. We desperately need rain. If we could just get the Time Team to visit. . .
LOL! The rain DID seem to follow them!
If they do come to your town make sure you have the boats and the life jackets ready. Flood insurance might be a good idea as well. Those poor guys are always getting drenched.
That's hilarious 😂!
I've been watching these so often I'm catching myself driving on the left side of the road.
Put down the drink and don't hold your phone to watch when you drive.....
It'll be alright 😂
Craving fish an chips might become a problem 😊
Time Team is A Timeless Treasure!
This video is labeled "Time Team S13-E12 Scotch Broth, Applecross, Near Skye", but I just watched Tony say we are in West Sussex, the Roman road between Chichester and London. As a Yank I am not totally up on UK geography but I think we are a long way from Skye and Scotland...Nice episode anyway ! - signed, Drew "The Scot" Anderson
they just got two episodes mixed up look for S13 E13
Its all relative. If you are in Darwin Australia. Then Applecross, is very near to Skye. I suppose.
The one about Skye is called the taxman's tavern, Alfordean, Sussex
Sorry you didn't understand. Never mind.
@@grengd Well, as far as we know, the romans didn't have GPS when they built the mansio. Maybe they just got it wrong. And ignore Headwind-1. Sounds like he's bragging, as in "You got near, I made it!", or maybe he just didn't understand you either.
Phil has a new hat!!! Love it!
Don't tell me Neil's in charge...aahh, we're good, there's Phil.
I can step back from the edge.
I feel the same when Francis is in charge! 😂
Victor is so talented!
poor old victor, got replaced, by a computer, yahh boo, replacing humans with machines
You lose something when when you "replace" the hand and eye of the artist, just like you lose something when you "send up the drone" instead of sending up two skilled and observant people in a helicopter.
...Victor, ma main man!
@@WOLFROY47 Though he was underrated in terms of his appearances his work was definitely useful to every investigation/dig he was involved in.
Thanks to those who have uploaded *Time Team.* I missed a lot of them when I was in hospital and now I'm able to (slowly!) catch up.
That was in 2016 and now, in 2020, I have caught up - and I still watch it again and again. 👍
Nice one! This is an episode I've been searching for...Thank you Reijer Zaaijer!
Thanks Reijer, appreciate you uploading these episodes!
Phil has a new hat with a very fine, if small Teal feather. So much fun, even the rain feels cozy amongst friends sharing a beer & their common frustration with more good British humour, no doubt.
Have seen this one several times. Still interesting and well done.
Cape Cod says Hello.
I would love to just sit with maps in hand and talk to Stewart about Roman Roads and the landscape.
Yes!! That would be great! I love maps!
Maps are fun to look at, I just wish I understood how a person can point to a spot on the map and say "We are right here." Heehee
I think Mr Ainslie is, just, the most interesting one of the team. He may not usually seem as enthusiastic as Phil Harding (or the others) but his knowledge and logic are exemplary.
And he’s fun!
i had an uncle, called ken potter, married into the hume familly, or visa versa, just an aside
Aimee Brass; In high school, mid fifties, They taught us to use a compass and a topographic map to find where we were. We thought we were ready to rule the world. so, yeah, even if you never used the knowledge it feels good to know. Of course, sixty years later I couldn't see the map if I could find it. :-)
Thanks so much for posting
Thanks for posting. I love the early Roman history of So. England. I had the opportunity once to stay in Chichester and see the remains of Romans and the Fishbourne Palace. Fascinating.
when i was about 9 we went to Bath..... wasnt as exciting to me as say the tower of london....but now...pfft.
nice to see, real people, doing real work, not much of that left, these days, and, i do miss the team, they were like, watching, a second family, and yes im a dinosaur
Don't be stupid, there's plenty of people working very hard today, you just want to feel superior by being condescending
Holy cow, Phil got a new hat! :D
Michelle Twidwell; I have a love/hate relationship with his hats. When he gets a new one I don't whether to hug him or kick him in the shin. Except that one time they gave him a new 'stone age' hat woven and sewed from hemp. That's my favorite. :-)
@@haroldraby Yeah, he takes all the ribbing in good part, doesn't he? He loves to wind people up. Sometimes, people like that are less than apt to enjoy being the object of the joke. John Gater is a lot like that, I think.
If you’ve even seen John Gater outside time team he is absolutely hilarious which certainly isn’t the take away on this show. He’s got a great sense of humor. But speaking of hats, Miles certainly made a choice
Oh, I bet that was a helicopter ride dream come true for Stewart. Lucky bugger!
That's what I love about this show . 2 seconds before the opening theme song starts and I already see crop marks in the background . Any moment Francis is going to parachute in with his trowel 🤣
*In all seriousness though how come they sometimes have on hard hats and sometimes don't . I'm guessing it's probably heavy equipment behind the camera that we don't see but I'm still curious.
*Last thing . I mean when y'all say motel I'm assuming y'all mean fortified hotel like the old Western forts in the US . A place you could pull the wagons with your goods and wealth inside a walled enclosure for protection . Maybe a better example would be the forts along the silk road ... I'm assuming it's more that than motel 6
I've been in motel6 in some bad neighborhood built an fortified 😊
What a great episode.
In all these episodes, i don't think Stuart and John are appreciated about how important their skills are.
I think that's just for TV. If they weren't respected they wouldn't be on TV so much.
@@Pauldjreadman They are actually _highly_ respected in the archæological world as is *Victor.*
i really do think victor is the unsung hero of time team
This would seem to be S13 E12 "The Taxman's Tavern - A Roman Mansio", Alfoldean, Horsham, Sussex, 9 April 2006. The Skye one is S13 E13 "Scotch Broch" Applecross near Skye, Scottish Highlands, 16 April 2006 (i.e. the next one).
Evidence: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Time_Team_episodes#Series_13_.282006.29
+Matthew McVeagh yeah - the titles appear to be mis matched...thanks for the link to wiki....:)
I was getting a little confused. lol
This episode, S13E12 is cross-labeled with S13E12. This is the Taxman's Tavern, Sussex. E13 is Scotch Broch, Applecross. Note that E13 doesn't appear on the channel page. Look at the suggestions or search for it. It is in the playlist.
A pensive Phil is a fine thing to look at...plus the new hat!
Or a happy Phil. Or a slightly drunk Phil... It´s all good!
But we so often get to see the happy man, and so rarely the thoughtful one...
How about....just Phil??
I wish to heaven Neil would SLOW DOWN when he speaks.
I wish he didn't speak at all!
Hearing Niell Holbrook talking about someone else, living in a fantasy world, is kind of funny :)
I love this show, everyone is so bright and, usually, so respectful. But around minute 44 in this episode Tony says that this is a luxury place with “all the services a traveller would have expected”. And then we have this conversation:
Tony: “I’ve pulled up into the mansio, what do I get for my money?”
Neil Holbrook: “You’re a very important person, Tony, you would get a room for yourself, I’m sure, … you can go out, perhaps have your dinner in the dining room, have a bath, AND A FEW ALTERNATIVE ATTRACTIONS, PERHAPS A FEW GIRLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.”
Tony: “FANTASTIC!”
WHAT?????? Tony????
In addition to reversed episodes, it's "Broch" not "Broth". Broth is soup ...
It's all a little confusing when you first look at it, but I am very fond of TT and you're our number one provider.
Thank you!
At 29:41 in the video, it reminded me of The Rutles "Tragical History Tour" with the tent moving across the field.
The mansio is visible as crop marks and the satellite images used for this area on Google Earth are very high resolution. You can make out other features and even see individual furrows in the fields.
51°05'07.7"N 0°24'19.4"W
shush, youl put geophys, out of a job, bad boy ?
Use the`Historical Imagery` option at the bottom edge of the G E image to see various earlier views as the mansio is not visible on the 2018 version.
@@rjmun580 I don't need to, I pass the site/field regularly!
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 I found this series sometime around June of the Plague Year, and it has been keeping me interested in the world. I live in Ohio. Yeah, that place -- the flyover state where Hollywood likes to set its "average American" sitcoms. (There's some truth in that, but I won't belabor it unless someone shows interest.) Around here, white guy archaeology goes back only to about 1800. But there are such gorgeous Hopewell culture earthworks that date from about 500 years before up to the same time as, the Roman mansio featured in this episode.
This is in no way to say that our archaeology is somehow cooler than y'all's (I'm not an Ohio native). I was floored on the A12 to see little villages from the flyovers with sweet little thatched-roof stone houses ... with flippin' *satellite dishes* perched on said thatching! People were living, skating the interwebs, and flushing toilets in houses that were built before Europeans even knew there was a continent in the Atlantic between them and Asia. That's some exceptionally cool above-ground archaeology.
Such a challenging site what with that clay and the weather
14:50 I think they overlooked a big thing about Romans. When the Roman Army marched, at the end of the day they made temporary camps all over the place. I'd make perfect sense for someone to later reuse the earthworks to build and operate a fortified hotel in.
I don't think that they overlooked it, I think that they realised that the later fort/tax station/mansio would have effectively obliterated any traces. A waystation like *Alfoldean* would have been much larger than any temporary camp and, knowing the place as well as I do, such a camp would be effectively impossible to find. The eastern edge of the site/field goes right up to the river *Adur.* To the west is *Stane Street* itself, to the north the modern main road to *Horsham* and, beyond the miniature effective _vicus,_ a private estate of sorts to the south.
Maybe there will eventually be a subject rating system for these shows; R for Roman,A for Anglo,N for Norman,NL for Neo-lithic,etc.Not a huge fan of Roman anything,so these are very nice to have available,but it seems Roman ruins basically look alike.All linear and non-descript.Thanks for loading them,all the same!
Love the quote a big pile of pants in the ground so very Time Team lol
Phil is a time traveling Pirate from 1754 stuck in our time. To adapt he became an archeologist because, digging for booty is wut om gud ah.
Oh noooo! RIP Phil's flavorful hat! it shall be missed! :(
Nah it's still running free In a lush field with ditches all around 😊
I see Bridget has taken over Carenza's role in Time Team...
Wonderful stuff! (titles of episodes 12 and 13 reversed, if you're looking for the Applecross dig, which is also fascinating)
Just think...........2000 years from now someone will dig up the bag of trash I just threw out, and be fascinated by the contents.
These videos are a real time machine - archeology - 20 yrs of shows - and who knows how many years of comments, most of them lost in time as people find and view - Well here's my comment - Ditches - so much effort, yards / meters wide and deep, here truly massive 3, 6 more meters / yards! As defenses the ramparts would have had to have been just as MASSIVE. Earth at best can be 'stacked' at 60 degrees at the cost of almost instant erosion, 45 degrees can be maintained if quickly planted. In either case erosion would have been major, up to feet per year in areas refilling ditches or depositing over interior 'habitable' areas of enclosure. If wood had been used to retain earth, a major forest would have been leveled - at HUGE effort and sucking up MEGA resources that could have been used for economically productive efforts most of which would have really been needed just to survive or provide the tiny surpluses needed to provide for growth and bad times. Also, after setting so much timber, why not just rely on that with smaller 'moat' Multiple 10 foot wide and deep moats with 10 x 20 earth 'wall' would indicate MAJOR ACTIVE threats, in the 1000s with heavy siege catapults, which case the Romans would have mobilized the army and if necessary exterminate the peoples 'acting out'. If it's 'petty' theft it's hard to imagine the more prosperous well heeled Romanized wouldn't have had the pull to get the Romans to beat on the local criminal gangs / families. If it's wild life, geeze, Brits had been living off just about every square foot of land for a couple of thousand years so short of a temp pig explosion, seems unlikely dangerous bear, herds of ruminants, even packs of wolves would have been that plentiful.
There needs to be an ECONOMIC reason for such massive excavations. An economic benefit that will continue to provide a return, or is continually needed. Also, having spent decades rebuilding the familes part of an original land grants 'manor' 200 yrs old in the US, mostly on my own, I can attest that when you are resource poor, ie, can't hire out at will, can't afford redoing work, ie all work has to dove tail with other work, synergies need to be identified and capitalized on, efforts now might end up being part of work finished decades down the line. Therefore.... ditches, yes, defensive, well, would in times of strife allow a levy something to line up behind as a force multiplier, yes tends to keep wild animals out, yes tends to make it hard for inhabitants and travelers to scoff off avoiding taxes. However, what else are they good for. MATERIAL RESOURCES with the PRIMARY benefit being 'fill'. Especially as soil is 'clayish'. First off, leveling land as even 'level' farm fields are anything but level when flattened out into a huts floor, courtyard, street, square, rough roads augmenting 'Roman Roads', diking drainage to create fields, small dams for irrigation fish ice harvesting wet areas for reed beds for roofing. Raising dwellings etc floors higher than surrounding lands (as any camper will attest sleeping at 'grade' is problematic. This requires MASSIVE amounts of material, and often CONTINUING especially if drainage isn't cleverly designed, erosion controlled. Part of wattle wall fill that would have been primary construction material. Rough pottery - at least for poor / or early on (I've run into clay and sun baked it into useable objects, even if just temp scoops, animal feeders, plant pots). Finally, who dug them. Immensely costly to line up 50, 100 and have them dig for a few years straight with endless supplies of hundreds of wooden tools, as common metal shovels hoes rakes were centuries away yet. They could have been built over decades actually by PRISIONERS, working off sentence, or as make work for those being supported by state or wealthy until labor vitally needed, harvests, war, etc. AND AS FILL MATERIALS ARE NEEDED. A one meter / yard square trench becoming 2, 5, and eventually the 100 plus square meter cross sections you found. FYI Roman through US military tested and have found a healthy man can excavate and move a useful distance maybe 3 cubic yards of relatively soft earth ie no major rock or gravel, a day. do the math. 80,000 cu yds roughly in these trenches 22,000 DAYS OF LABOR, 10 men, requiring 5 women to cook clean make clothes etc 20 resulting children and 100 men to grow enough surplus to feed those workers, and their support staff, potters, thatchers, soldiers, tax collectors, would have taken 2200 plus days of digging. That's not including palisading the dirt into the 'defensive wall' double it for that. Double or triple for that. Of course a 10,000 strong legion could have done it in 2 days, assuming no one spent any time making camp cooking defending preventing drunkenness deseretions gambling whoring stealing (ie establishing an enclosed encampment to control said troops as much as defend them, by the legions more opportunistic criminal element. So more like a week or two or four or eight depending on weather. Of course it would take tens of thousands of locals to support that legion building out that heavily defended but empty settlement, and again a few miles up the road as it did another and another. Then ongoing as civilian builders followed to fill the settlements with buildings. That is, of course, NOT how it was done with the exception of legionairres year round bases. Leaving again such other development as this to construction over time, DECADES, acheolgically a blink of the eye, an instant in time a lifetime to the peoples making the archeology happen.
Well that was fun, another sinus headache medicated to relief and another chance for a half nights rest.
Hope this someday makes it into someones thesis somewhere.
Rabbit is good eating.
And again a wandering tent.
...it was The Rutles on set
4:32 "AAAAHH, ooh whats that?"
Phil's a real codger!
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_Codger?_
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 a 'kindly old dude', some older fella with real character.
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Thank you. It's a word I know but here in *Britain* I've only ever heard it preceded by _old._ As *Phil's* only a couple of years older than me *_I_* don't consider him old. 🙃
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 My beard's as gray as yours, and I roll a bit sideways when I walk, so I'm a bit of a 'codger' too! Absolutely LOVE Phil on the show! The show's helped me a lot with this 'lockdown' and I'm there with the guys more than once a week as they explore. Be well.
They did "geophys" on an open field under the rain? Idk about rain in the UK but where I live you're asking for lightning strike!
That's why you're always seeing new people's out in the field 😊
Lol. So many episodes feature walking tents.
I would have thought that the river was very important too, there being no water mains!
Love Brigid and her tiny tops
I can’t hear Romani without hearing John Cleese correcting Graham Chapman. ...
I would like to walk around and talk to all the archaeology specialists like Phil and Stewart. Would even do a round or two of field walking with geophys.
"don't bother me now honey, I'm watching Time Team...."
They need to bring back time team
It's not a proper dig unless the rain is tipping down. Nice hat.
Sandra Nelson the irony is the TT logo, three faces sun bathing. 😂
If this was an episode of Midsomer, Miles would murder Mike at some point during this dig.
Or _vice versa._
ohh, just like today then, if it moves, tax it ?
that would make the site, similar, to the early railway in america, when the workers moved on, the tradesmen moved with them ?
It's a good question but I think not.
Strange how some of these are blocked and others not. Is there a reason for this weird pattern of can and can't watch? Surely C4 would want to block them all and as these are in series order they could just block the lot in one fell swoop?
Gillmojo get VPN and local blocking will not be a problem!
Can Bridget be any lovelier! Can she? What a Goddess she is! And this camera man knows just how to frame her!
They would need to be about 20 miles apart, in order to change horses?
Does that look like an iron age ring settlement in the green field?
15.45 OMG Phill's hat gone, no warning, just gone, heartbreaking.
He's got a new jerkin too, it's like he's been marched into a country store at gunpoint.
Who's complaining?
... wrong description does not detract from the hard work done and need to see if you're a fan of archaeology !
Ah! Here is the description that goes with the video I just watched, at Applecross, called "Time Team S13-E13 The Taxman's Tavern, Alfoldean, Sussex". Maybe the titles and descritions were swapped between the two.
I think we understand why there's two ditches. Flood control.
It certainly still gets very wet there when there's heavy rain.
Slight discrepancy here, between the description and the subject of this program, a Roman mansio in Sussex. It's S13-e13, not s13-e12 as titled.
Sussex decided to exit/devolute from the UK?
Funnily enough the *United Kingdom* became that when the *King James VI* of *Scotland* took the *English* throne starting our *House of Stuart* line of monarchs as *King James I* of the *United Kingdom.*
Romans: "well there's nothing here to tax any longer, let's move"
But romans were stopped by the picts at the border were they not? .. .Hence Hadrians wall
The *Romans* decided that it wasn't worth invading *Scotland* at first, then they did and went at least a hundred miles into the country (and built garrisons/forts there) and then they didn't. They traded with the *Scottish* tribes along the border though there were occasional skirmishes. The *Picts* were just one of many native tribes in *Scotland.*
Episodes 12 and 13 titles have been switched. The Taxman's Tavern is S13-E12's proper title. Scotch Broth, Applecross is S13-E13's proper title.
what, you missed, a brilliant opportunity, to skive off, to the pub ?
It's *The Red Lyon* in *Slinfold,* about 2 km from the dig.
thought it was in Scotland? LOL ;)
yeah they got two episodes mixed up look for S 13 E13
...nearish to Scotland
Holli no romans in Scotland. Remember Hadrians wall.
@@bokhans There were lots of Romans in Scotland. Remember the Antonine Wall!
I guess some sound is better than no sound. Volume at 11 and I can barely hear this episode. I'll take what I can get though.
Never mind, it is an issue with UA-cam, not this video...
Interesting look the young lady is giving Phil as he's tasting the bite of hare.
This should be titled The Taxman's Tavern; Alfoldean; Sussex
Even after five years people address the mislabeling. XD
nike for horses how twee, is there a price hike ?
Is that first part even English? Just wondering.
What is Phill Harding doing now?
Last thing I heard, he was still working for Wessex Archaeology (only 1 L, by the way)
They'll be pulling Phil out of a trench to put him in a box lol. Love Phil and Stewart they make the episodes for me
Go to Google Earth or Google Maps and search for: Alfoldean Bridge, Horsham, West Sussex RH12, UK You can see the crop markings....cool!
Oh, my! Very cool!
Title is weong, it says broch, near Skye, but the episode is in fact about a roman station in Sussex !
It's interesting that the site fell into disuse because the Roman taxman quit coming around, when a larger deposit of iron elsewhere needed greater attention. It's odd how much of Archaeology can be attributed to a change in taxes, too. I'd bet the Roman tollbooth persisted longer than the posh accommodations. Just thinkin...
+Kim Jameson we wonder if politicians priest and warlords have wrenched humans into a better life or just a life of servitude ?
Kim Jameson @
hat jetzt nichts mit Time Team zu tun. Aber warum ist da der Mais so HOCH abgeschnitten? Das sind ja schon bis 20 % - Abfall-?
please help haven't found the right "Scotch Broch" near Skye - yet. . Even not with the episode guide. Please. Have to watch it ! Could ya send me the roight link ? Thx !
Somehow, I don't think the Romans really called it "Staines Street".
*Stane Street.* It still runs beside the site/field.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 Probably Saxon.
My ancestral home.
Youre american aren't you lol
"We have our work cut out..." FOR US! - In 'Merica we add that to the end. lol
Yes, that is a little confusing.
I only started watching the series in the last year. The episodes aren't posted in any kind of chronological order, so, I get a young Tony one night, and an old Mick the next. But I've never seen, and am curious as to why/how, the 3 day format of filming was adopted. Can anybody inform me?
If you write "Time Team Episodes" in the UA-cam search, you will likely get a list of episodes. The format is usually "Time Team S04-E2" so you should be able to locate them by season and save them to your Watch Later list. The three day format is a convention made up by the late archeologist and Time Team original member Mick Aston when the program was first proposed. He figured that three days should be enough to figure out the general idea of a site and the idea caught on. Time Team never intended to perform comprehensive digs, but they were able to decipher what was going on in a site more often than not.
BlueSaphire70 Thank you. I'm actually a little saddened to hear Mick has passed! I really like the show, and the way that different disciplines are combined to execute and interpret the dig.
I know.... I too was saddened to hear of Mick's passing. I think he really enjoyed his profession and was the very image of the absent-minded professor with his colorful sweaters and flowing white hair. I've tried to find out what happened, but I haven't been able to find the cause of death. Time Team's last season was last year, which was one year after his death. I really enjoy this show, but I guess it's best that they stopped when they were still good and especially if there wasn't much of a "team" left.
BlueSaphire70
I also seem to recall an interview with him where he mentioned that the 3day thing was a statement he made to a friend on which the show was based.
After three days you have a pretty good idea of what you are dealing with in 85% of the cases. And the friend, who worked for the BBC told Aston to put his money where his mouth was and they made a show around it.
In a sidenote, it is wonderful to think that time team did not only have an impact on the public watching it. The archaeological world took notice too. Emergency excavations (that have to be fast due to matters beyond their control) took lessons from time team to heart and learned to anticipate problems the show faced from time to time.
Finally, the european Malta Accords with relation to Archaeology seem to have taken Time Team to heart as well. Insofar that in signatory countries, if you are building a house with a cellar, archaeologists are allowed to excavate to the exact depth of your foundations but not below. if you're going to put in a pool in your garden in germany, belgium or france (for example), archaeologists are allowed to come dig the hole (as it were) so nothing is lost. This is, in some parts, a result of this show. Since it proved to alot of people that archaeological work doesn't take years, it can take just a week.
Finally, if no other reason were to exist to prove the use of Time Team, then this comment thread would still validate its existence and useability. I've learned things from reading and replying here. And I doubt there is anyone who reads this who can honestly say they did not.
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Mick's funeral cortège. It's worth seeing.
Scotland? Looks like Sussex
im a realist, isnt the farmer, going to want his field back ? ohh dear, fill it all in again, and thanks for loosening the topsoil, for me
It appears to be just post-harvest. The field is still farmed (it's not that far from me).
Mislabelled. This is not Applecross.
I have never seen a group of people get so excited about digging in the dirt. K
Why is the title of this mixed up with the Roman Tavern episode? The one titled
Roman Tavern in Alfodean is the one about Scottich brach's in Applecross!
Geophysical Circularity
This episode is NOT in Scotland!
Yes it is, learn some geography
@Aggie MacLean Sussex is a Scottish shire
this Time Team S13-E12 and Time Team S13-E13 are cross labelled.
Perhaps the Romans designed this based on popular Victorian designs of the day
Caption seems to have slipped- Applecross?
Sadly, almost all of this Series has been blocked by youtube in the UK. And 4OD doesn't have them either. Grrrrrrr....
vaping Otter The Scene... Embassy of the United States, London Chancery Building, Grosvenor Square, City of Westminster
Man in Suit : "So tell me, why do you wish to emigrate to our country, Mr. Limey?"
Me : "I'd like to be able to watch all the old episodes of Time Team that have been blocked by youtube in the UK, please Sir."
Man in Suit : "Application rejected. Have a nice day."
TheSpikehere use VPN and all local blocknings are gone.
Taxation is theft! lol In this case it was.
In Sir Tony's introduction there is an example of a (small) annoying but occasionally reoccurring feature of his narratives. Misinformation! In this case; the Romans did not call that road 'Stane Street'.
What would the Romans have called it?
A good question. I don't know but keep looking. I only know these are fairly modern names. I have Guy de la Bedoyere's book "Roman Britain" andin it he only uses modern road names.
3-J Ranch they have no idea what Romano-British called their roads. Stane Street is modern version of Stanstret meaning Stone road.