Longsword Techniques: Winden and Mutieren
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2020
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We are exploring Winden and especially Mutieren, the core longsword techniques of Liechtenauer’s tradition. However, Mutieren is only rarely used in sparring sessions. Winden and Mutieren are Indes actions and require timing and marking the opportunity for the correct execution of the technique. We apply Mutieren in common situations where it is well-suited, and also in non-traditional settings. Originally, this video was conceived as a follow-up to workshops for INDES.
We visit other techniques and positions, and these exercises can be useful for HEMA clubs and fencers to review the basic concepts on Fühlen, openings, and body mechanics.
Enjoy!
MS Dresd.C.487 transcription by Dierk Hagedorn
*Disclaimer*
This video depicts interpretations and sparring within the Historical European Martial Arts (HEMA) and is intended for recreational historical fencing only. It does not constitute as self-defence instruction or advice. Wear appropriate protection gear when practicing at all times, and use swords/feders made for HEMA sparring.
Ah yeeeessss my journey down the HEMA wormhole has led me to a great video with 322 views and 2 comments
Well, it has to begin somewhere. But I can promise there will be more videos.
@@matejzabka4501 well you're one subscriber closer! If you don't mind me asking. What do you recommend as a first sparring longsword? Preferably not a feder because I'm one of *those* people
@Robert Stuckey Thanks! The sword choice comes down to personal preferences. I would say that the feder is still a great option for sparring, for safety reasons, price, availability etc. I have been using Regenyei Armory (HU) heavy "Trnava" feders - they are good for techniques, the ones in the video are from Pavel Moc (CZ). SIGI Forge (SK) makes excellent feders as well. Most of them offer longsword reconstructions, check on their web pages, and they should ship worldwide. If you would like something like a collector's piece based on careful study and reconstruction, then there is Robert Moc (SK). Actually, the only longsword as such that I was using was a two-handed great sabre, so that can be a nice option as well.
@@robertstuckey6407 What do you mean one of 'those' people? As far as I'm aware feders are used by most longsword practitioners and most longsword tournaments
Thank you for this! I like short videos that demonstrate a lot very quickly.
Thank you, that was exactly the reason why we started making these videos.
Thanks this will give us some inspiration for our own Training
Enjoy!
Very cool and dynamic video. Very anschaulich and inspirational for future trainings
Thanks!
Super video, guys. Thank you!
Damn... this is actually well put together. I'll be practicing this later.
Keep practicing! There is perhaps a new video on this topic coming in the next month or two.
Thank you for this video. Very instructive indeed :)
Nice :)
What feders are you using? They seem very flexible.
Hi, this feder is from Pavel Moc (cz) and is quite flexible. In other videos I am also using a heavy trnava feder from Regenyei which is not flexible at all :)
Mostly great video, but 1:38 seems to not be correctly named?
Zornhau to my understanding of the texts is a purely nach technique, that tactically can be classified as a beatparry (upon the sword) and then riposte (Ort).
Zornhau is not a direct attack in vor, from what ive read in the texts.
(Except for Meyer, but he has a lot of things completly mixed up.)
Hi, thanks for the comment! I remember that there was a lot of discussion about it many years ago. In principle, it is mainly a powerful Indes action, and can also be a Vor or two-step Nach. In this video I just demonstrate that it can be used as a Vor as soon as there is an opening. Have a look at the Fuehlenless concept by Anton Kohutovic here on youtube.
@@matejzabka4501 Well tell me the source quote that mentiones zornhau in vor... it would just simply be oberhau.
To my knowledge zornhau is a beat upon the sword.
To Schielhau, its explicitly mentioned in vor multiple times in the sources, and therefore i think not comperable.
@@sabelfechter7136 Yes it can be interchangeable in terms of terminology. This might be interesting: ua-cam.com/video/sMVNKpHTY5A/v-deo.html
@@matejzabka4501 Do you notice that this video shows only nach variants? 😉
@@sabelfechter7136 You have to start with the ortt immediately though, otherwise you won't break the attack. In case the other one is not doing anything it becomes a Vor attack...but this is terminology really.