everyone wants to be unique but no one wants to be, like, *weird* unique. if a very specific brand of unique is fuckin popular then like... no y'all aren't unique
More like attractive unique.. unless they got sad and don't want attention but they usually still wear makeup to appear more conventionally attractive.. btw there are some awkward teens who more want to be invisible but I don't mean those in this case
@@user-vw4xp5nt9f - You turning this into a competition and challenging someone to "beat that" is exactly the problem pointed out in this video. Also, the furry subculture works hard to fight off imposed labels of "weird" and works to normalize it so as to stop the ostracization and negative stereotypes they're afflicted with by people outside the fandom. You reinforcing the "weird" association, as some sort of badge of honor, undermines their effort to be accepted and not misunderstood. Besides, furries are getting popular as they enter the mainstream, which proves OP commenter's point. It's no longer "unique" to be a furry. It's still fringe, but not necessarily uncommon or underground.
@@nothing-jl2dz YES. Only attractive people get the weird pass. I know it's fictional but let's face it, if Wednesday wasn't played by stunning Jenna Ortega but rather someone more conventionally unattractive she wouldn't have half of the appeal, specially on the dance scene.
I hate when people are pretentious about this kind of stuff. I am an unapologetic lover of pop and I don't think thats a bad thing and yet, some people are way too concerned about it
Absolutely! You can talk about taste, but it's pointless to argue about it. No art or genre is superior to another. Everything created by mankind takes time, devotion, etc. For that alone I appreciate artist and their art (fascists excluded).
@@yoginella exactly!! it blows my mind when people take a stance and whole-heartedly believe they are “right.” with something as subjective as this, there is no right or wrong.
@@grlfromvenus Its similar to people who claim that there is no good music nowadays compared to the great artist they listened to when they were young.
There’s always room to expand your taste beyond mainstream pop which is where the pretentious ppl are coming from. There’s so much more out there. Including lesser known pop artists, if you really get into them concert tickets are muchhh cheaper.
@@adventurelandexpert7148 The pretentious people I’ve spoken to have come for mainstream pop and criticized it when I don’t think people should be condemned for listening to that genre. I whole heartedly agree that there is always room to expand your taste and try new things and I listen to a ton of different genres and decades. But I’m not going to tell people their music taste sucks if their top 5 artists happen to align with more popular artists
As Nelly Furtado used to say, "You liked me til' you heard my sh*t on the radio, but now I'm just to mainstream for you, oh no/you said good things come to those who wait, well I've been waiting a long time for this".
My roommate’s most listened to artist was soldier boy and she didn’t know how it happened and was too embarrassed to post it. But I know when she gets drunk I can hear her blasting it from her room.
I literally got made fun of because my Spotify Wrapped top 5 were entirely FNAF songs but then my friend got made fun of for having all Taylor Swift because it was ‘basic’. Like do you want us to have a normal Wrapped or what? 😭
I saw a lot of people getting shit on when wrappeds were being posted online. There's no winning I do enjoy my fnaf music though and despite what people think, I'll keep enjoying it
One time my media teacher said “I genuinely do not believe you like Taylor swift” cause she saw me in a mcr shirt one time and I had to explain to her that I have been to two concerts and Taylor swift is literally my favourite artist . People can like multiple genres ma’am
I like both of those artists too! I also like two door cinema club, Harry styles, the used, paramore, and the lumineers. You don’t have to stick with one genre
The thing that terrifies me is that this also applies to mental health, if you regularly have thought about k1lling ys, or you’re depressed, THAT makes you “different” I stopped trying to get better because of this. Because people think healing means being basic? And that line of thought is just so horrifying, the fact that you have to be mentally unwell and unhappy with yourself because it’s “cool”?!
kinda like when artists starts releasing music that's happier sounding than their previous work and fans are unhappy,,, it's like they don't want them to be happy I'm like whuat
yes and even if you do want to get better, the whole quirky mentally ill thing has made it so people just make fun of and joke about super sad topics. Like if i were to theoretically tell someone i was feeling down, it would not be a surprise if they were like “oh lmao i wanna kms too!” (i hate the acronyms kms and kys, it’s weird that we need acronyms) it’s disgusting and sad. i don’t wanna stay how i am, and i don’t think it’s right, but when people joke about something too long it can lead to desensitization. i understand some people use it as a means of coping and that for the most part can be ok, but it’s such a widespread thing now and joking does have an effect on the public mindset, whether you want to admit it or not.
the basic girl stuff is weird in the sense that being “unique/niche” is isolating. i genuinely do love seeking out niche/unpopular media because it’s fun to find undiscovered gems. but because of that, many of the things i like i can’t really share since people look down on it when i try. no matter what, everyone has a media comfort zone that they don’t particularly want to leave, and familiar things are comfy. uniqueness shatters connection through shared experience.
I understand, but i still agree on not being so conformist to the point where you have no identity of your own but not the point where your competitively trying to be so unique/niche and having some sort of ego and calling other basic, or generic etc. They needs to be a balance simply *Be Yourself* Sounds cliche. But it’s the answer to these types of topics
@@144chosen I mean sure but if "being yourself" means liking so called "basic" things I genuinely don't see what the problem is with that. I get where your coming from but what your saying implies that to be yourself you can't like popular mainstream things and that to truly be yourself you have to differ from "the norm" in some way. Which isn't necessarily true for everyone.
@@purpleatemyrainbow9347 then you need actual friends. If you have genuine people who care about you in life they will want to be interested or even just listen to what your talking about wether they like it or not. My bestfriend is not a fan of KPOP but will bop with me and watch all my music videos with me. He knows he doesn’t like it but knows I do so there for is willing to try. You need more people in your life who are open minded and caring. Which is hard when society is so hyper focused on “being valid” and the internet they forget simple foundations of what makes a friend.
maybe it’s just me but i’ve found that another part of what makes it isolating is that I can’t connect with people on the popular side either. I’m incredibly out of touch so it makes it insanely hard to make new friends since I haven’t heard of half the things they’re talking about.
The thing is, even if you'd listen to indie, underground (or aka, underated) artists, you are not safe from being criticized. No one is actually safe because you will either be seen as basic, or a weirdo.
@@ventingmachine101 That is really what we should do, but it's also understandable that someone would fold to other's expectations. Especially after being dragged through the mud like this. Personally, I would've folded under that much pressure too, but last year I had a resolution that I wouldn't let myself be stepped on by others anymore, and I think it definitely helped!
It even depends on what kind of indie and underground music you listen to cause there is always this battle of who can find the most underground artists with the least amount of followers. When certain 'underground' artists reach a certain amount of followers they also lose their appeal as being the music a 'unique' person listens to.
@@Jadeeatstofu That's so true! You are absolutely right on this! Remember when 100 gecs ( geks?) Were not very known so it went viral and after it went viral it was seen as too mainstream or even "cringe".
@@ventingmachine101 i got cyberstalked and threatened several times for listening to 100 gecs honestly you'd be shocked how far this extends. and gecs is mainstream
Being a music snob does not in fact make you a better person. Let people like what they like. Is Nirvana's Nevermind a bad album because it's popular? I don't think so
I consider myself a music snob but not because I gatekeep, but because I care a lot about certain things and can critique music a lot more than most people do. I listened to alternative music as a young teen so I was around people who listened to like… Halsey’s first album and I got the vibe but hated her songwriting and such. But I don’t think silly things like music stopped being good at a particular time, or you’re less worthy for liking x (including Halsey while I hate her songwriting). Edit: autocorrect changed a word lol
@@LangkeeLongkee I agree, good criticism isn't condescending. I also liked Halsey first album. It came out at the tail-end of my alternative Tumblr girl era.
@@ChrisBrooks34 tbh I didn't like it but the people around me did, that's why I brought it up 😂😂 I WANTED to like it but I heard someone else put it into words, but at least to me and that person, it comes across like she had a vibe or a rhythm she wanted to present and put the lyrics as an after thought to fill the space. I genuinely think Colors was her song writing peak and I think she sounds great when she either goes full pop (like her character in the Sing 2 movie, her voice was AMAZING in that) or full rock (like her Experiment On Me song from the Birds of Prey soundtrack). My girlfriend loves her music though which is all well and good. Glad you had that moment. Genuinely. But I'm nitpicky about those things, hence why I do think of myself as a music snob even if I don't gatekeep. Not all the time, I just have my moments. I've gone on record ranting about the rap verses from Popular Monster by Falling In Reverse being utter garbage and the worst part of an otherwise great track. But that's a vent for a different time and for different ears 💀💀
@@LangkeeLongkee "I just have my moments" THIS. Please let's start normalizing occasionally being a bit snobbish about things we truly care about and understand. Sure everyone has an opinion, but I simply cannot accept that everyone's opinions have the same weight at all times.
I've noticed that it's mostly young girls and teenage girls who get shamed for being 'basic', so I'd say that this phenomenon could be related to misogyny🤔.
Oh it is. Women aren't allowed to do fucking anything. If you're "basic", you get judged for being "basic". If you're different you get judged for that. There's no winning.
It’s ironic that people get mad when their favorite underground artist gets popular. When I met someone that knew my own favorite artist, I got super excited and wanted to talk about their songs more. I WAS STATIC when I saw that one of their songs got a million views. I never understood the whole, “let’s keep them underground!” No, I WANT them to be more popular because they deserve it.
I’m guilty of doing that a few times lol. There is some music that just feels like a precious gem you found, and you get to have the joy of showing it to other people for the first time. It’s not about not wanting the band to be successful. There is just something that feels not great when something you had a strong connection to “blows up.” It usually means that because of this whole “it’s shameful to be basic” thing, liking it just doesn’t feel the same and you expect you’ll be chastised for liking something you “must have just heard on tik tok recently.” It takes away the shamelessness of just straight up enjoying something freely before pretentious music buffs start dog piling it and hyping up stereotypes about what type of person you are for liking that thing. And considering that all it really takes for a band to start getting hated on is for it to become too popular and get overplayed (take imagine dragons for example) there’s this fear that it will happen to our fave too. Also when bands get popular, sometimes they sell our or change to appeal to the mainstream. Not saying it’s a healthy mindset either. I would rather feel the way you do towards it. But I do think it’s pretty normal and understandable to feel this way about things from time to time.
exactly, my favorite artist is all but unknown except in a couple select communities, and i would LOVE for him to get some mainstream attention so i can talk to other ppl about his music and so other ppl can appreciate it (i was in the top 0.005% this year with 13k minutes) and this can apply to music taste in general, i like indie electronic/videogame music and i struggle to find anyone who can appreciate it the way i do or at least not call it "boring" or "emotionless." i definitely wish the genre was more mainstream. also who's your favorite artist? kinda curious
I AGREE W THIS! whenever i love a smaller artist i always want them to get more popular. but i think what a lot of people DONT want is for a song from that artist to get so popular to the point where it is over saturated. it makes you not want to listen to it anymore because you are constantly hearing it in other places. so thats why lots of people try to “gatekeep” or hide it. (my opinion)
@@cassiuscruz8570as a fan that aint such a big problem... Even if someone mispell an artist or just know few songs doesnt give u the right to judge "her verification of your statement" let ppl enjoy things!! And btw her name was Ray, so....
We have to make sure that this doesn’t flip over and have people start hurting other people that act slightly different than others because we👏 have 👏seen 👏it 👏happened 👏👀
@@teddybearsinthebox9318 the issue is that the people who were targeted for this in the past aren’t really being praised now. They were neurodivergent ppl mainly, and I can confidently say that it has not gotten better. However it’s more that the popular ppl from the past appropriated these subcultures. Like for example, to be goth you have to listen to the music first and foremost. But said popular people will simply wear black items and say they belong in the subculture. There are even those out there that whole heartedly fight to have lil peep recognized as a gothic icon. All I’m saying is that being different was never actually normalized or encouraged. They were taken on as little costumes and fetishized. Hence goth girls being known as “kinky” when in reality I know plenty that want quite the opposite including myself.
Was arguing with my mom about this not even 30 minutes ago! She says "back in the 80's everyone had their own style and was more unique". Older generations will just always find ways to shit on the younger ones, huh?
I’m inclined to believe the opposite considering the internet has facilitated unprecedented amounts of exploration and everything is so much more niche and fragmented now. But mums are the worst to argue with so conceding may be the smarter choice- gotta pick your battles 😂
Oh and who did you listen to in the 80s mom? Madonna, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Michael Jackson, Prince, Def Leppard. Older people are funny, if most of your favorite bands have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, its kinda hard to claim they were niche and underground.
Calling someone "basic" and calling them "pretentious" are two sides of the same coin: 'basic' is a way to criticize others for conforming to the norm; 'pretentious' is a subtle attempt to suppress deviations from the norm. While 'pretentious' is supposed to mean a palpably affected importance, or an attempt to impress others with the same, it's quite difficult and ultimately arbitrary to attribute such intentions to other people, and so the word is thrown around quite freely to disparage divergent interests or thoughts.
I never realized that people throw the word pretentious around like that because personally I strictly use it for its actual definition, but that makes sense. I think if that's the case people are definitely misusing the word.
i'll never forget this tiktok i saw a while back of a girl who kept a spreadsheet over songs she listens to that have less than 10k streams. she was mad because a song on there had gone viral on tiktok so she had to remove it. kind of half joking but in a "haha don't we all get upset when a niche thing we like becomes popular!" sort of way. it just seemed so bizarre to not only keep a spreadsheet like that but then also be annoyed that a small artist you like had a song blow up. that artist was probably really happy about it. seems kind of miserable but what do i know, i'm a top 0.5% taylor swift listener!
That’s so weird lmaooo…I’m always so eager to share what I’m listening to so underrated artists I like might be able to get at least a lil more traction from my gushing about their craft. I don’t get how people have the time for all of that like…wow!💀
i won’t lie but doesn’t this genuinely defeat the purpose of listening and enjoying music? stats and streams have sort of corrupted our perception of music i feel. either your music taste is basic bcs it’s popular or it’s looked down upon if it’s “too quirky and weird”. what good music means to given person should be music they enjoy, that’s it. whether that music is at the top of the charts or barely reaching 10 000 streams on spotify, it’s all valid
@@idkanymore12 People tend to forget that music is meant for your overall mood and enjoyment which is why I find it so weird that people judge what music people enjoy. It defeats the whole purpose of enjoying music 😭
Is consumption the only way some people know how to express themselves? The importance some people place on the media they consume is truly bizarre. Maybe my taste in music is basic not because I am boring and basic, but because I leave the fucking house.
Right. They would rather have the song stay niche - they don't want others to have the joy of listening to it and they don't want the artist to succeed. Sounds incredibly selfish.
It’s ok to be basic. My most listened was mainly Afrobeat,Kpop, Dominican music and Melanie Martinez. My friend’s most listened was all jpop, and my other was all Taylor swift. That’s all ok. We are all totally different people, who go through different things, and like different music
@@hailsaep13 Hi, I just wanted to say that enjoying mainstream things is totally okay and it feels ridiculous to say it, but I totally get the stigma of having mainstream stars dominate your top charts. I used to dislike seeing very well known people as my tops, but eventually I realized that enjoying something that others enjoy too doesn't discredit my affinity for it and definitely doesn't describe me. The people who you listen to shape you, for sure, but just because somebody is well known doesn't mean that their messages and ideas instantly become bleak and monochrome. I think that labelling people as "basic" often discredits and undermines them as people with equally in depth personalities and interests as someone who isn't "basic". Don't let the media's fabricated guilt of enjoying popular things tear you down :) At the end of the day it truly doesn't matter if you like indie or mainstream artists, what matters is that you're enjoying what they make and that you're happy
@@hailsaep13 Honestly, Kaleido explained the reason very well but I just wanted to encourage you to listen to whatever you like. Don't care about being judged for that because no matter what you will listen to , people will still judge you in a way. My music taste revolve around Metal, Rock and Folk mostly but there are times where a "mainstream" artist's song would make me feel relaxed and put me in the right mood. In the end, music is a part of our life and it helps in our good and bad times and a song that someone may dislike might have helped someone else in their bad times. Being judged for listening to "mainstream" or appearing "basic" just tells how insecure other people are to the point that they are judging someone's music taste to feel superior about themselves.
I am the opposite, in a way. I was a stubborn teen, and I'm just now learning to really appreciate and let myself enjoy pop and mainstream songs and artists. It feels wonderful to let myself experience more types of music :)
Ironic because we try so damn hard to be unique and snowflake or a protagonist because we have "unique" state of mind or world inside of your mind shaped by your taste yet we are nothing more than just NPC in the grander scheme of universe or at least, society.
my top artist was olivia rodrigo, i was in her 0.05% of listeners. a bunch of ppl made fun of me because shes “a popular and non-unique artist” but what’s wrong with that? i love olivia. i have cried and screamed my lungs out to her songs and have found peace in them and a way of honestly, therapy. her songs is something i can relate to and personally makes me feel represented and not alone. but some people make me feel like i can’t feel that way just because she’s a popular artist. she has been my top artist 2 years in a row, and both times my top songs were hers.
she was also in my top five!! i love olivia bc she's the artist that got me into music, before listening to her i never got the appeal. also congrats on too 0.05%! i was top 0.05% for taylor swift and it feels oh so good.
The fact that that people bashed you for listening to a lot of a popular artist instead of having a standard percentile like them might be the most ironic thing I’ve seen in weeks. What a bunch of posers, I’m sorry you have to deal with that. I imagine these people are teenagers, I hope they grow out of that mindset soon because it’s embarrassing.
I enjoy spotify wrapped in the same way that I enjoy personality quizzes- they're fun but don't take them too seriously. Spotify wrapped telling me I'm in the top 4% of Mitski listeners has the same amount of impact in my life as getting string cheese in the what kind of cheese are you quiz
personally.. i like being basic; i like being a ordinary teenage girl, who watches rom-coms and wears jeans and t-shirts. and that doesnt mean i dont have my own "quirks" but i still like following the trends, and doing the things other girls do.
Being a hardcore music snob is something that gets a pass when you're an insecure 14-year-old, but it should die down when you become an adult in your early 20s.
yeah i was gonna say any time someone acts like that it just screams, “i’m insecure and i try way too hard”. most people come around as they age. getting older typically means caring less and just doing what you like. but for some unfortunately they are never comfortable and confident enough to just be themselves.
Good to see gen z discover what it was like being in the goth/emo/punk/indie subculture of the early 00s. Nothing like being cool for liking the super obscure band My Chemical Romance one day and then being called a poser for wearing their merch the next. Not that that gave me trauma or anything.
Yes. BUT. If you're honestly saying that being called a poser as a teenager gave you trauma then you don't understand a single thing about trauma. Maybe i missed something, but this really pisses me off
being a girl/women is extremely exhausting. it’s like the world is literally out to get us and pick apart every aspect of ourselves we wouldn’t otherwise have any problem with.
@@danieladamczyk4024 There is always a label for whatever women do, and if your comment "men up" means that we should be more masculine (correct me if i'm wrong), then we would be a "pick me girl" aka, a girl that "acts masculine" to gain men's attention Or maybe a "not like other girls girl", in which we try to stay away from what's considered "normal girl stuff" or even considered attractive/sanitary, just for the sake of being different My point is, being normal is being a "basic bitch" but trying to differentiate yourself from what's considered normal/feminine is also wrong or another label to laugh at
I had a very formative conversation with my best friend in middle school. I was trying to get them to read the Hunger Games before the movies came out so we could go together, but they literally said they were too 'mainstream'. I could not understand this at all, and said something (less articulately) along the lines of, "If you base your interests off what ISN'T popular, you're still letting the popularity of things dictate your interests! Just like things without considering how other people think of them!" Unfortunately we couldn't just let it go because were middle schooler's and it evolved into our first real fight haha. I'll admit to slipping into thoughts of trying to be 'special' or 'not basic' from time to time, it's really annoying actually. Why haven't we invented a button that automatically deprograms you from all societal conditioning! I'd pay good money for that.
It's funny to me when someone says 'you've got a great music taste!' because that just means you both listen to the same music. Art is subjective, what I think is great someone else may hate, and thus there is no 'good' or 'bad' taste
good taste might refer to music that everyone would like, like someone might know an obscure song that if put in a movie would go viral the next day, that's someone with good taste he can hear something good no matter if it's popular or not
@Trinity M I agree with that to an extent, there can be objectively bad parts of art. For example, I love terrible, raspy voices, with my favourite band being The Front Bottoms. While the fandom can all collectively agree, yeah, they can't sing, we still listen because the rest of their music fits our subjective tastes. I see art in general in that way. A drawing may have bad shading or wrong proportions but those are just parts of the picture, you know? Even if an art teacher says it's trash, someone will look at it and think it is brilliant
last year my top song was 505 by arctic monkeys and i was laughed at for being too basic. this year my top song was sober to death by car seat headrest and people were like "ew what is that i've never even heard of them" and judged me for listening to a "weird" band. how does one win
Discovered car seat headrest this year and wish I could go back to my 15 year old self and share them with her. They are amazing. Also discovered deftones way too late… but what a weird feeling I impose on myself like I was supposed to, between the ages of 13-25ish have heard every band I was ever going to love 😅
I’ve seen this sort of obsession with not being considered “basic” from a lot of people (even those who’d be considered basic by most) Usually they justify their like of those popular things by claiming some special circumstance like they “discovered them before they were popular” or they’re “real fans unlike everyone else who are just poseurs” It shows you how “being basic” is just perspective we create.
I always find those "I discovered them before they were cool" comments hilarious, because I've had people in my life say stuff like "I'm a real fan, since I found them when they were underground", but then when those bands started making headway into mainstream culture, those self-proclaimed "real fans" suddenly stopped listening to their music... Like, if you genuinely love a band, you wouldn't dispose of them, the second they get more mainstream!
@@janefins261 and surely, if you were a massive fan, you would be really happy of their success and that they got mainstream and achieved their dreams!!
Everybody is obsessed with being unique. It is about the most “basic” thing out there in my opinion. And - it makes sense!Inventing a sense of non-mediocrity is just another way of trying to add meaning to your life
I've seen this too with Western "City Pop" fans who are just listening to Japanese Boomer Pop/Funk/AOR so most are not even close to being the "real" fans, yall were a fetus at best or non-existent at worst lol. I never got this as being into music not in your country's native language can be very isolating as a foreign fan especially for more niche genres like Hip-hop, Jazz, Drill, etc so I welcome new people to talk to as this sht can be lonely 😅
I love that you discussed this... While I was abroad in Asia where most cultures are extremely collectivist, I had such a hard time explaining why Americans think "basic" is an insult hahaha I would say, "It means you only like what everyone else likes" and they would respond "isn't that a good thing? Don't you want to fit in?" Hahaha this is such an American concept
I found it really interesting this year that I actually had no real desire to publicly share my Spotify wrapped. Not out of insecurity but I realised I’ve gotten to this place where I just don’t feel the need to (at least not as much as before) signal things to people- which is rather comforting. It used to be that if I wasn’t being witnessed living my life then I wasn’t rlly living it but now I’m perfectly content with not being ‘watched’
Same. I used to post about everything I ate on social media, it was like a weird addiction. I quit social media this year and have not missed it once. It feels good not feeling like I have to share everything about my life all the time just so people can know
Same lol, i used to post my spotify wrapped to show everyone how cool and unique my music taste is (🙄🙄🙄) but this year i really just did not feel the urge or need to do that. I think i just grew older and started caring less about trying to be different and trying to feel unique. I also realized how lowkey pathetic it is to try to be more unique or special than other people for the sake of feeling superior. Like that genuinely is so lame and SAD.
And that’s why I literally deactivated all of my social media accounts (IG, Tiktok, Twitter) two months ago and plan on never going back. It did feel weird at the first going out to a nice place and not posting my outfit or food. That’s when I realized how conditioned we are, when I would everyone else grabbing their phone to snap a pic. It’s like wow am I even living if people don’t see it? Have we really become that addicted to other people’s perception of us? Yikes. Anyways, the sense of peace that came after was/is so worth it. I feel more free to just be.
people really want to be unique and stand out until their true, non performative self stands out. I was bullied a lot in middle school/ early highschool for being the weird emo kid. I just listened to MCR and wore black, not even that unique by emo standards, but i was harassed and isolated none the less. When being “alt” became a trend a few years ago I was seething with anger, not because The style became popular but because all the people that made my life a living hell were crawling back to me and acting all buddy-buddy because i gave them brownie points. The “fame” I got from that trend was short lived because when the belts and spikes weren’t chic anymore I was dropped like a sack of potatos. I don’t have as many problems now that I’m in college but I still get many glares from my peers. I personally don’t give a shit if someone listens to the most popular cookie-cutter music or the most underground shot ever, I just care when people are dicks to others over their interests, popular or otherwise.
The Spotify wrapped thing is hilarious to me, because - at least with my experience of Spotify - the app gives you songs and artists to listen to… but it’s almost always driven by algorithms, themselves. Of COURSE you’re going to have a lot of popular music, because the algorithms are gonna PUSH that music.
Well not really. If you listen a bunch to some genre, the algorithm is going to give you more. This works with pop music and indie music alike. So I guess a lot of music you listen to will depend on the music you started listening to years ago. But I guess spotify promotes popular music at the default home screen so maybe you're right.
Not necessarily. If you systemically tell them not to give you popular music, disliking and skipping pop music right away, they will give you the mainstream musicians within your genre instead of the top 40. Altho I somehow ended up at the top 2% of Slipknot's yearly listeners this year without ever actively playing Slipknot (my guess is autoplay favouring them over other musicians I was listening to) so maybe I'm just clueless
Spotify kept sending me more and more niche artists because that's how I interacted with the algorithm. That isn't meant to be a humble brag, just an example of how preferences will shape the result. It makes sense to me that more than 50% of listeners would be pushed the opposite direction since popular music is popular for a reason.
I'd rather be considered basic and boring than hide what makes me happy and the stuff I actually like it's sad that people don't feel comfortable being themselves out of fear of being judged and looked down upon by others honestly :(
ive always been called basic for being a swiftie like my entire life but id rather listen to music that means something to me and i actually enjoy rather than listen to music that doesnt make me happy for the aesthetic of being weird or quirky
ik its hard for you to understand but the music you think people listen to only for the aesthetic of being weird, means a lot to them too, and and its basically what they enjoy.
@@ananyarai4607you didn’t understand, she means that she rather hear music she likes not music she should like to fit in the aesthetic. Never once mentioned anything about ppl listening to “aesthetic” music not actually liking it.
Obviously haven’t finished the video since this is such a recent upload. But this topic is so interesting and almost frustrating because it’s really sad people feel they can’t publicly show off their greatest joys. Music is a lot of people’s favorite medium of art, and even for those that it isn’t, it’s still a huge comfort.
This brings to mind a quote by Virginia Woolf: “No need to sparkle, no need to shine; no need to be anyone but oneself.” We really need to exile the internal audience in our head that seethes at every gesture of authenticity that isn’t “hip” enough to be loved.
i want to thank you for bringing up those who are neurodivergent. i never had the choice to be “basic”. being “too different” comes with struggles nobody talks about
Im not neurodivergent, but im often seen as one. and yeah it hits me hard. Im so tired of being seen as adhd/autistic and QuIrkY when my issues are so damaging to me because im extremely different, Im literally all the categories except for fat people. being different kinda sucks and its nice seeing someone mention it for once. i totally understand
@@bruh438 the way i feel this. I think all this is essentially the meaning behind this lyric from the song Strawberry Fields Forever; "No one (I think) is in my tree. I mean, it must be high or low." You feel as though something is wrong with you because you don't see things the way most do, so you wonder if you're the only one. And people make being qUiRkY and uNiQuE out to be such a great thing. But it can also feel really lonely and it can suck big time
@@inserthahafunniusername9656 yeah this is how it really feels, tysm for getting it. there are more cons than pros from my differences so yes its unique but i prefer the word 'weird'. i also understand why people like fitting in with similar people, but when no one is like you, most lose interest. i lost my friends recently bc i denied my diagnosis (they were using me bc im 'quirky'). it also saddens me how some cultures in the world only recognize physical disabilities, i have asthma but my lack of focus and social interaction has caused me more harm than necessary. normies and oddballs like to fit in, but we'll just stay in our own exotic trees. i love the song i added it to my playlist lol. 'Alien' by lebanon hanover also perfectly captures the feeling.
Ive been thinking about this idea a lot lately, for my birthday this year my mom bought me a bunch of cute decorations and balloons and everything was pink themed with party hats, and made this cute cake topped with sparklers. Just the perfect "movie" birthday, the stuff you see on pinterest and instagram- and my friend while I was sitting in my little chair after blowing out my candles said, "god you're such a basic bitch" and honestly? That ate me up so much all night. I didn't know what to say- I just thought those parties were cute and it's what I wanted for my birthday lmao. Idk the basic bitch thing is kinda the worst.
@@jillybear3241 even if she’s going through her own shit, that doesn’t give her the right to hurt you. you deserve to be surrounded with people who treat you better.
Dude your bday should be the day where you indulge in everything that makes you happy ! What kind of friend would say that to you when you're clearly enjoying yourself ??
I find an interesting example the “alt fashion trend” of 2020/2021. because I’ve always loved alt fashion and when it suddenly became more widely accessible i immediately “jumped on the trend”, you could say. the thing is, im still in those subcultures after they became “unpopular”again. which just shows me that sometimes you like things regardless of their popularity. not all your interests need to be unique, as long as you’re happy.
honestly things becoming trendy can be nice too. i always liked emo & gothic styles, but i never went through with getting into those subcultures since emo & goth stuff was something to be “ashamed” of. once alt stuff became trendy and i gained the money to try it, i really liked it!! and now im still into it!
my dad told me the story of him having a jazz snob friend who wouldnt listen to anything else and always put 'lowbrow' music genres down and my dad whos also a jazz liker was like, why would you be like that? a good song is a good song no matter the genre. liking jazz doesnt mean you cant like dangdut or pop music, like what you like instead of trying to show off how "sophisticated" you are. and i think this is like a core memory that shaped my personality ever since, not just with music but everything. i agree with this video, great work
I never really liked Dangdut and it's definitely not my cup of tea and it's hard for me to liking it personally since I grew up listening EDM, Hip-Hop, RnB, Pop and liking some futuristic sounds and industrial sounds. But I hit a life stage where trashing other genres are just pathetic to me and instead of acting that you're protagonist, while not just accepting that people just have different world of music in their mind
I always feel a bit repelled by the ideas of "being basic" with style and decor. They usually bore me. I like flamboyant colours and patterns and odd thrifted pieces. But I am not a mom and only recently entered the workforce fulltime. Throughout my 20s I had the time to wander thrift shops and the incentive to find cheap, interesting clothing and accessories. I didn't have to do a school run or make a family meal. I also happened to be living in a city with many vintage shops and varying price points so I had access to options. I could afford to turn my style into my hobby. But many women simply don't have the time or $ to explore styles and aesthetics. These things are usually the luxuries of youth. A working woman may not be wearing all black because she loves all things gothic - she just needs things to match easily so she can get to work on time. A mom with a toddler likely isn't doing a top knot bun to channel Balletcore - she just needs an easy way to wear her hair so she can get back to wrangling her kiddo. In fashion, "Basic" is code for comfort, ease of wear and accessibility (and sometimes being inexpensive). Building personal style takes time and $ and is, frankly, a privilege. Tearing down a woman for being too "basic looking" is really just a way of bullying someone who doesn't have enough time or $ to be avant garde with their style. It's a symptom of classism and misogyny and speaks to the way we try to erase women and keep their lives complicated. (Also FUCK that guy pissing on women for "getting the same weave every 8 months"! Like women owe you entertainment by changing their appearance to suit you or to keep from boring you! Fuck all of the way off!)
i get what you mean. most people don’t have the time or money to build an aesthetic. I’ve always worn basic stuff because we couldn’t afford to spend money to change up our style every year or something. i’ve always had the same hairstyle because we didn’t have the time to braid it or curl it or any special style.
Yes, and also: every time I see people following trends and being basic, I think they’re simply not into fashion and decor that much. They have other interests, so they don’t spend much time exploring their own style
i loved everything you said! especially "Tearing down a woman for being too "basic looking" is really just a way of bullying someone who doesn't have enough time or $ to be avant garde with their style". some people really go out of their way to seem different & unique to feed their own egos. if something is mainstream & liked by many, it most likely is a good thing. so why shame people for liking.. likable things? so weird!
I agree with you except for style being only for the youth. I’m in my twenties and I never have time to hone my psychobilly style. I’m stuck with a style I absolutely hate, because I can’t afford to make or buy clothes. I never have time to actually use my sewing machine and upcycle thrifted outfits.
My ex boyfriend used to always bug me about why I listen to Taylor Swift and not more emo/indie bands that he listens to, he pretty much shamed me for being basic. (even tho he literally was the most average german boy ever) After we broke up I just completely stopped caring about what others think of me or my music taste because i was literally overthinking so much about such an unimportant topic
@@mcrmakesmedanceyea you do unless he basically judges your every move and all of the music that isn‘t emo indie bands 💀 Its not fun not being able to express yourself because your PARTNER considers it not worthy of listening to
@@mcrmakesmedance im not saying they arent i listen to a lot but i dont want to only be able to listen to one kind of genre because otherwise i would be “uninteresting“
I recently talked on a dating app with a girl, we seemed to get along great, we were cracking jokes and teasing each other and then we exchanged letterboxd profiles? I saw her watching almost exclusively new wave 60s films and she saw me watch almost exclusively newer horror films (and the Happiest Season, obvs ) she went sth like: 'its fascinating how passionately you're watching such bad movies'. I was shocked? I was really there for a moment thinking: am I basic for watching horror? Should I watch french new wave? THE👏MOST👏INSECURE👏PPL👏ARE 👏CALLING 👏OTHERS 👏BASIC
it may be a hard pill for you to swallow, but there are cinemaholics who could assume your taste in movies is too primitive for them. the other question is why be so rude.
@@amberraining9546 you realize that you’re commenting under a video essay criticizing the culture of being different/nlog, right? just because someone’s tastes are more mainstream doesn’t make them “primitive”
For a short time this year, I started listening to music on Spotify for the sole purpose of having it show up in my Wrapped. I wanted to be able to post my Wrapped and be “proud” of the songs and artists that showed up. Honestly, I think the whole idea of a public wrap up fucked me up, the same thing happens to me on Goodreads. I try so hard to present myself a certain way online and I’m sick of it, not doing it anymore
literally how it was for me. i changed my insta bio several times a week, just to make it look aesthetic and trying so hard to impress others with my pretty account. all this because of what other people might think and always curating everything for others to perceive me in a certain way. it’s insane even writing it down now holy shit lol
Just remember that enjoying popular stuff does not make you boring or basic, everyone is different from one another and a lot of people just happen to share some interests
I’m sorry I absolutely hate people who think because someone or something is liked by a large amount of people that that means it’s not good art/media anymore.
Or that smth that is only liked by small number of ppl Has to be good. It can be, but it doesn't make it automatically more worthy bcos its "less mainstream"
my problem was that in middle school was bullied for being too weird, and because of this i took on the whole "basic bitch hater" persona where i claimed to not like "basic" people because they listened to "mumble rap" and followed celebrities when in reality i hated them because they reminded me of my bullies
@@danaenaegod5203, the term was coined by Wiz Khalifa, was it not? Any rapper including white rappers can mumble rap so I don’t exactly see why it’s a racist term only that it probably depends more so on the person. It’s just describing how words aren’t emphasized properly in some rap songs, I like knowing the lyrics of a song and this extends to other genres too at least for me.
it’s always been interesting to me when people complain or ridicule people for being basic, while also being the main people who bully unique people or just anyone that’s “too” different.
It has never made sense to me, how some people gatekeep others from listening to the same music they do. Have they not realized that the artists and bands will not live long with just a handful of fans? It is literally the worst thing you could do to someone whose music you enjoy. People can be so strange.
Well if they get too big they might have to do stadium concerts instead of smaller venues which kind of sucks. But otherwise yeah, the artists need support if they are going to keep making music.
My therapist and I talk about this way too often, probably because I used to be one of those people who would judge those who are more mainstream (I’m sorry I already know LMAO). I think it all stems from just being so insecure, seeing all these people online (mainly tiktok) being cool and different and seemingly secure with these cool tastes in clothes, music, movies, etc,. It is all based in insecurity in yourself. The more I realize that I, in fact, do not dictate what is cool because being insecure is anything but, the more I accept people for what they really like, and in turn making me feel better about what I genuinely like. It took me a lot of time to realize that a lot of my issues are interpersonal, and stemming from me wanting to be “cool”, but I had to realize that being “cool” just is, and you cannot prove that to people. You just simply are. No matter what people think, life is short and you have to make the best of it. Like that popular band or movie, like the Beatles’ worst songs, cry to Taylor Swift, hate all the filmtok movies… it really doesn’t matter unless you think it does. Basic isn’t real, and knowing that can make your life SO MUCH BETTER.
I adore Billie and Halsey, I always felt weird about it as a middle aged white guy who used to pride himself on liking just 'edgy' rock music as I saw it..still love that stuff, but also have a lot of room in my playlists for Chloe Moriondo, CHVRCHES etc etc Judgement in music taste is something I always fell prey to growing up, and I have to actively fight it today - there is no 'sh*t' music or 'basic' music, you either get it or you don't. And the intense misogyny you described has made me tense and annoyed and have to go to store for Xmas supplies, so going to play Aurora to lift spirits. Superb video as always, even if it made me feel old and self-conscious about my more Judgemental self.
YOOOO CHVRCHES, you got good taste what's your favorite song/album? I'd say my favorites at the moment are The Mother We Share, Bitter End, California, How Not to Drown, and Lullabies!
Being a Taylor Swift fan is the wildest thing cause she’s the most niche not-niche artist ever, you can get called out for listening to her both by people who like popular and unpopular music and most of the time the one’s calling you out are just others who listen to her too cause the streams have to be coming from someone lol
I was actually surprised finding out that Taylor Swift's music is considered to be "basic". I'm from Ukraine, so American [music] industry is not *our* main industry, thus I had no idea who's "cool" and who's considered to be "ew" or "basic". I knew that some Taylor Swift exists, but I didn't ever heard a song of her (turns out later that I did, just had no idea who sang it). I never knew how she looks, so I thought that it's just another "mediocre 40 y.o. american pop-ish artist that was popular in 2000s" (yeah I was not-like-others type). When I eventually find out more about her, heard some songs - I really liked it. I got into her music, got into swiftie-safe-space-bubble so I was like GENUINELY surprised finding out that she and her music are hated or just strongly disliked by not-like-others folks, that liking her considered to be "basic" and non-unique. Her music is different, there's typical pop, country, rock-ish stuff, beat+electronic music+badass lyrics stuff, calm folk-ish music, and it all contains AMAZING storytelling with her great voice and melodies, that can fit to your different moods. "Life is too short to say you hate Taylor Swift", indeed it is
my spotify wrapped top artist was taylor swift and i was in the top 2% of her listeners. and my other top artists were twice loona itzy and little mix. i really like girl groups so this makes sense for me.
I was neither surprised nor embarrassed about who my top artist was. I was, however, embarrassed that my top 5 songs were ALL by said artist. I was like dang is she all I listened to?
Same. Despite my interests in a wide variety of music, experimental or not, and mostly to metal, I was legit shocked that the artist that I listened to the most was System Of A Down. Top 5 songs, all them. Especially their one song "Suite-Pee", which apparently I listened to the most. I was like, "Wait, so I'm a SOAD fanatic?"
Weird example, but I never truly realized how hostile people could be to those that stray even slightly from the norm, until one day, I decided to take a bottle of cucumber flavored gatorade: something I drink not because its 'different', but because I genuinely enjoy it. Upon doing this I was met with a strange level of hostility from my classmates who generally/ normally respect me. Most of it was joking of course, but this was a reminder of how closed-minded people can be, and how much easier it is to be 'normal'.
My top artist was MARINA and I could literally not be more proud of myself for that, like yeah, I was in the top 0.5% of her listeners, 1,362 minutes, and I had a very wonderful time doing so 😌
Mines ms Amy Winehouse. Love her, especially her Frank album for 1,498 minutes. I was in the top 0.1% listening to her so 💀 Either way I love marinaaaaa 🖤
People are absolutely ridiculous… my top album this year was Encanto… I do not have children I just really loved the music from the movie. I am happy I listened as much as I did because it made me happy. Also, as a Mexican who grew up in the US since I was 5 I totally relate to being made fun of for my taste. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told I’m “white washed”
My music taste is so random , one song would be a goth rock and the next thing you know Katy Perry starts playing right after. These people on twitter find it weird apparently but it's normal, I don't get to control what song I'm into this week and it's just a spotify wrapped it's not a big deal.
I listen to Blackpink and BTS after went through my "King Crimson" or classic rock music or dark ambient obscure era like The Beatles, Swans, Brian Eno, Twin Peaks ambient music or Pink Floyd. Look how random was that lmao
My friend were literally just having a conversation about the nature of being or believing oneself to be "NLOG" and gosh we want to be unique so bad but sometimes it's just ok to like what a lot of other people like?? Because if so many people like it, maybe there's a reason!
Also, being exclusively into obscure musicians sucks when you want to make small talk and no one knows the bands you're mentioning while you're hearing about Olivia Rodrigo for the first time and have nothing to say
@miglek9613 urgh, felt. Almost all the bands I like have super small followings and I always feel the conscious need to listen to mainstream artists when they make new albums at least once just so I'm not completely out of the loop
@@magnificloud I personally just listen to songs when they go like internet news sites viral (ex. Montero, WAP), otherwise I just talk about my more mainstream musicians (Florence and the machine and Paramore being examples) and keep the rest to my friend group
when i heard people talking about curating what music they listen to to make their spotify wrapped look a certain way i was so baffled, i love the authenticity of sharing raw statistics about my music listening habits on the internet. it's especially nice just because i am someone who listens to a lot of weird music, but generally considers it more of a hindrance than a flex in real life conversation about music taste. that's a nice thing about social media i think, having an outlet for your interests without needing anyone to understand enough to hold a conversation about it with you.
> but generally considers it more of a hindrance than a flex in real life conversation yeah, i dont relaly get why people think its so great to listen to "weird" music. when i tell someone what i listened to all year and show them some of my favorite songs, and they look at me like im the weirdest person theyve ever seen and go "oh... its... different" im not proud, i just get sad. it feels bad to be isolated from music taste conversations. thats why i like talking about it on the internet, theres always people who will connect with you and share the same interests and not judge you for like things that are "too weird". i guess im in the same boat as you
@@buddleia yeah, I know that and I'm working on it. Now I have a set of friends who dont judge me, after years of being seen as weird and being excluded. Though, it's still hard not to feel sad when someone looks at you like you're crazy after showing something you deeply care about. But still, i don't censor myself nearly as much as I did in the past, and I'm only getting better at being myself, so I consider that a win.
that was a beautiful note to end on. i am a goth person, i love metal, rock, etc etc., so oftentimes i run into people who do have this very elitist mindset. my last ex was a great example of such. he told me multiple times that people who listen to "enter sandman" by metallica are "basic", or that people who only like "supermassive black hole" by muse are just "girls from tiktok". he even went as far to try and forcefully input his own elitism into my fixations. i'm neurodivergent, and have been fixated on bang dream for nearly 5 years now, which is a series centered around music and bands. he went as far to say that people who dont like roselia/afterglow (fictional bands in the series, centered around goth/rock music) are somehow less than i am because i tend to like those bands more. it gets very irritating, especially since i like things other than metal and rock too. i like pop music, idol music, even some country music (love you carrie underwood), because i am a person with broad and ever changing interests. some days, i am in a "2000s hot girl mood" and i play some good pop music, sometimes im in a "classic rock mood" and throw on some fleetwood mac. anyway, to cut a long point short, i kind of wish that this "i am different" mindset would fizzle out.
@Cincoat And then you have Metal Subcultures like, within metal. People specifically being into JUST Viking Metal but NOT Folk Metal or JUST Black Metal and everything else is untrue or whatever and just stick to that. I never managed to truly feel home in any specific subculture because those elitist make it feel no different from the "basic" people that wouldn't accept me back in school. Like mates I'm just trying to find a place to vibe not a different flavor of conformity. Got a cool circle of friends with overlapping (but still divergent) tastes these days.
Embracing the things that make you happy without shame is tough, but I highly recommend it. It was a LOT more fun to see My Chemical Romance two nights in a row this year than to pretend I don’t listen to them. (Seriously, it was an incredibly uplifting experience.) …still, I was definitely hesitant to share my Spotify wrapped given that it’s basically a roulette of top 80s new wave hits and 2009 Lady Gaga songs, and I’m not really sure what people would make of that, but there’s nothing really wrong with it, is there?
There is nothing wrong with that, just share what you like with confidence :) if people don't get why you like such stuff, just move on and stay away from them if they are being toxic about it.
Judging people for enjoying something harmless always confused me. It's a huge reason I abandoned the word cringe forever. The world already has so much to be bothered by. Best we allow ourselves and one another some happiness. We all deserve that.
People judging others based on the media they consume is so strange to me. Consumption isn't the only way to express yourself. But you might think that's the case based on how some people talk. It's pretty Dystopian. What about hobbies, activism, relationships, a personal moral framework? These things say so much more about a person than their music taste.
I grew up in west coast canada, and I've been a huge fan of mother mother for a decade or so - they were pretty big here in BC and a bit less in Canada, but still fairly well known. When they started getting more international attention among younger gen z queer people, I knew soo many people here bemoaning how "they listened to them before they went mainstream and became tiktok music" and started side eyeing me for saying they were my favourite band. Meanwhile I was the one laughing bc the new fanbase revived a lot of popularity towards their earlier style, leading to them releasing an album that was super true to their roots, and similar to my favourite album by them! When I went to a show on their most recent tour, it was amazing to see so many young queer and trans people finding connection with their music
I have LOVED Mother Mother since 2017 when my ex-best friend shared them with me. Their music has helped me so much an I genuinely very much enjoy it. In 2018, I made the mistake of sharing Bit by Bit with two girls who I thought were my friends. They litterally just went "Eww what is thaaat", laughed and went on to have a conversation, as I sit there with my confidence shattered. By the time of 2020 I thought I was pretty over that situation but when Mother Mother got popular on TikTok, those same girls started listening to Hayloft and Burning Pile and blasting it outside. They tore open the wound they had made and rubbed salt in it. I thought I was over it, but the rage and hurt it made me feel for awhile was awful. I know it's pretty pathetic but I'm still not quite over it. I'm 18 now, and still scared to share my most favourite things with anyone because of those two and some other bad experiences :(
@@BlackCatWithCap I'm so happy to hear that you love their music and it's so meaningful to you! Bit by Bit is one of my faves as well, alongside Problems. Yeah, I don't get where people get off on insulting someone's music tastes when it's such a personal thing - of course it would feel horrible to have the thing that you get a lot of meaning from be mocked, and it wouldn't make you want to share your music with others. Hopefully those girls mature and stop doing that to others, and recognize the irony of what they did and their current tastes now. I'm 25 and had people mock other music I liked similarly when I was a teenager, and I can say the hurt does get better with time. It becomes a lot easier to not let people's (bad) opinions affect your enjoyment and desire to share music - I went from feeling dread whenever anyone wanted me to play music or make a playlist at a party etc, to loudly and proudly blasting my music (latest was people questioning why ABBA was on a playlist and I was like "is it not a bop though" and they had to agree with me lol). Keep listening to Mother Mother and other music you love, and know that you're objectively way cooler of a person than anyone who judges others for music. Hopefully you get to see them in person bc they do a hell of a show
i was just soo confused by what happened. I didn't listen to spotify that much in 2022. the most confusing thing for me was probably that ppl were literally shy/embarrassed to share their spotify wrapped. Like when our teacher asked us, bc he is cool and we had a conversation about it during a lesson, he literally asked "if ure fine with sharing" and i mean okay, i understand, but he asked it like it's some trauma or something bad like what?
The funniest/best thing about Spotify wrap-ups is the revelation it gives you regarding your real interests. I mostly listen to a lot of alternative music (Brian Jonestown Massacre, Dope Lemon, etc.) but my top artists were Lana del Rey, Taylor Swift and Halsey. What can I say? Their last few albums were fire.
Same situation but my top artists are like BTS and Blackpink and they're the most hated by some people because "Kpop is manufactured" thing. I still love it. I need something danceable and upbeat outside of serious deep philosophical vibes that i've gone through in my music experience, for giving it balance.
Also can we talk about how capitalism works into this. Brands try to convince us that they can help us become more cool/unique/beautiful/fashionable/on trend. The only thing businesses cannot monetize is our personalities, and that’s really the most important thing to keep unique. Being unique is not defined by the music we listen to, clothes we wear, stuff we own, what hobbies/skills we have, and how we do our makeup. Being unique is defined by how we express our innermost self-how we act, how we love, and treat others.
Similar story here. In 6th grade, I was such a “weird” kid. I liked video games, silly music, and I didn’t care what other people thought about me. In 8th grade (now), I’m a “basic” girl. I play lots of sports, I wear lululemon, I have a Stanley, I do my skincare, but I feel happier since I’m taking care of myself. You can’t win though. 2 years ago I was harassed for being different, now I’m attacked for being basic.
My top artist was Taylor Swift and the other in top 5 were K-pop groups (2.bts 3.twice) so I don't really care if people think I'm basic. I like what I like and there's nothing to be ashamed of
My Spotify wrapped is full of kpop as well. I know that's beside the point but I feel like kpop is in this weird limbo where the gp is very aware of it yet doesn't listen to it.
I listened to a few hours of Willow and that somehow put me in the top 1% of listeners?! I love 3 of her songs, but I know ppl must listen to more of her than that 😂 I think they’re trolling us Edit: maybe people listen to her on UA-cam. That’s probably why
No I think they 100% fabricate it tbh. A few years ago I barely used Spotify but listened to Blue Neighborhood once or twice and maybe an additioanl single a couple times and somehow was in Troye Sivan's top 5% of listeners?
I noticed that too I listened to a few BTS songs on Spotify and mostly listen to their songs on UA-cam because I don't have Spotify premium. Spotify wrapped told me I was in the top 7% of their Spotify listeners. I think BTS are 5th most streamed artist this year? It makes no sense 😂
I think it's more because even if you've listened to a song from a particular artist once, you count as one of their listeners. So imagine how many people played one of their songs just once in an entire year, it's not hard to be in the top percentiles by playing to their songs a couple times
oh you guys have absolutely no idea - top 1% of listeners is kinda nothing, i forgot the math but it includes like thousands of people i think? i dont use spotify but i know ppl who were in the top 0.0001% of their favorite artist's listeners LOL
I’ll always love pop and idc what anyone says about it. I’ve cried, danced, laughed and created good memories from pop songs so it’ll always have a special place in my heart
As a millennial I used to get made fun of and called a hipster for having niche musical tastes. Some people got on my case for not recognizing certain very popular songs: "How can you not know (fill in the blank)?! Everyone knows this song!". "You listen to (x)? Nobody actually like that, they only pretend to be edgy." It cuts both ways.
Yep. The mid-2000s was pretty mean to anyone who fit into the hipster box in any way. I participated in some of that hate while being really interested in twee fashion and several bands that absolutely got called hipster. Clearly I was projecting.
"how can you not know .... " is one of my most hated phrases. im old as fuck and get mad when other people get on the case of younger people instead of just enthusiastically sharing with them. its a shitty introduction to the music or film in question that might taint the chances for someone to discover some new stuff
I'm upset that people just can't let people enjoy things, without labels and prejudices. It's like your worth is constantly being evaluated and your personality is an unpaid full time acting/smm job.
@@greatwave2480 I love this. Yes! We are people! Everyone is different. That is LITERALLY something we learn in kindergarten… So weird how we never really grow out of this “Basic vs Quirky” shit
I find myself obsessing over not being basic a lot. Like whenever I listen to a new artist, I’m almost compulsed to make sure I listen to more than just their biggest hits. That’s how I ended up memorizing the lyrics of every P!ATD song, considering how heavily that band is carried by singles. Ofc what I should’ve realized as an angsty teenager is that no matter how much Panic I listened to, they will still always be reserved a spot on the hot topic t-shirt wall, so I would still be basic either way, so I should just stop trying so hard.
Been bullied alot for being too different im in therapy for it btw . Goes both ways. they be saying "your trying to be edgy and rebellious out of the norm youre trying too hard to go against society are you hiding under that mask of makeup and clothes because your insecure!? Clown. you have issues just admit it".... nope i just enjoy expressing my trueself why does that offend you😂 when my fashion sense got in style i stopped getting bullied for it i felt like i was in some confusing matrix blew me out of the water and taught me alot about peoples hypocrisy and wanting approval from society to blend in etc etc lots of lessons im thankful for
yeah same i am a kinda weird person but when everyone was raving abt bfs,makeup & pop music i was fixtated on tudors & waterbottles (weird I know) … i could Name every single detail about each monarch and I’d talk about it loads & I also dressed ‘emo’ and was just asking to be bullied but I couldn’t rlly help it , i couldn’t just change the way I’ve always been . i didn’t have a bf cause I wasn’t rlly interested & was asexual didn’t use makeup cause of the sensory issues it causes, if I’m honest im not like the other girls in my form and everyone around me knows it , teachers,councillors,therapists i know I’m not like the other girls and isn’t just cause i don’t like the same things as them 🤷♀️ it’s probably just cause im neurodivergent when their all allistic
I listen to weird, kinda obscure music and whenever I played it the people around me hated it and changed it to something else. Then my friend showed me their Spotify wrapped this year and we found that we have similar interests so we shared artists. It was super cool and definitely a highlight of my musical experience. Not sure why anyone would want to be so UniqueTM that no one else likes their music
this is literally me too, except i've never met anyone that likes my music taste :( last year my sis bashed my favorite song and said it had "no melody" and "wasn't music," ever since then i hardly ever share my music w anyone. i wish i liked pop or rock so i could actually relate to people.
I used to be the girl who would judge the others girls for liking things as Twilight, Brazil Funk (Idk how this genre is known outside), Kpop, etc or for being fussy, enjoying typical girly things and don't play rigth dodgeball. I was kinda of that stupid trope "I'm not like the other girls", but I over it. Anyways, it is weird to notice that it was something bigger than just the desire of being different, it was prejudice, it was hate. And it turns ever weirder when I just wanted be different than the others girls for somehow subject machism, like, "you want me to like pink? Fine, I'll like blue" and it turns out just being more machism. This is so fucked up.
I totally was super elitist about my music and pop culture tastes in high school and early college. Funnily enough having a degree in classical music where the music department head/theory teacher who is literally a music theory genius from Princeton repeatedly shared how her one of her favorite songwriters is literally Rihanna. As it, she used Rihanna as an example in our music theory classes to of exclusively classical musicians. It was then that I realized I had to get over myself. My need to be elitist didn’t help me understand music theory better or make my voice better at all. It didn’t make anyone respect me more and in fact made everyone hate when I was in control of the aux…like…so embarrassing! And I can’t pretend like most of the music major parties I went to had the literal least danceable music in college because I swear everyone was busy trying to prove how unique their music tastes were. That attitude lingered a bit any time I felt the need to utter the word “normie” out loud, but I’m so over it. We only have this one life and people should be allowed to listen to whatever music they like. 6 years of having to analyze music for my degree and I discovered by the end of it that it doesn’t have to be that deep. We really be judging people over literal invisible waves that make noise. We gotta all gotta collectively calm down on judging people’s music taste. And from judging our own.
I use to be "not like other girls" as an early teen, and it was a chore bc i wasn't naturally like that. I was considered weird and bullied for that, so at some point i turned around and decided to embrace it and found a way to feel good about being different, and i... It didn't really work, and i gave it up in a way, in part bc i found a group of friends where i was allowed to be weird and different without being rejected, so yknow. There's always something to be said about finding your place in the world. Anyways, i was like that, i forced myself to be different and scoffed at what was mainstream and then maybe secretly, privately, enjoyed the bits of the stuff that i mocked, and eventually i realized i was no better than the ppl i was mocking if i had to chip away pieces of myself to be me. A complain i developed as i grew up is that ppl are ashamed of being weird and they pretend to do or like stuff, and i was Different™, i was one of The Few Ppl that were Honest, except i wasn't. If i wanted to listen to story of my life by one direction i did it in secret and if i got found out i looked for an excuse. So i stopped Which also got me push back, in part bc of my own actions, bc you don't get tl spend years mocking something only to turn around and like it, that's not how it works, but also bc... If i admitted to liking what i too considered "basic" (although that's not a term that was part of the vocabulary of 2015 in my Spanish speaking country), i received mockery from others, and they didn't believe it, and once again i found myself looking for comfort in being different, and i can admit even nowadays i do that, and when i decided to stop chipping away from what i liked and cherry picking my interests to conform to the idea that i had constructed of who i was, i changed my understanding of Different™ to be more of what i was trying to become: not someone that actively goes against trends, but someone that enjoys whatever it is, *regardless* of trends and popularity, so if i happen to like the most popular movie in the world? Yeah, so what. And if i happen to like the weirdest, most fucked up little gremlin of a singer in the world? Yeah, that too, what about it, and it helped me stop feeling morally superior to those that were "basic" to my eyes, bc now i allowed myself to reach a common point with them in my honest interests It took me some more years to realize that everyone is like that, actually, that everyone wants to feel unique and usually thinks they are unique, and depending of how you see it, that's really the case, but also, it's not the end of the world if I'm like everyone else. If I'm part of the 70% of ppl that look up bc everyone else is looking up, if i like the song that everyone else likes bc it was made to be popular by design. It's... Fine Nowadays i do mock a certain sort of basic-ness, but usually with the irony of mocking exactly what I'm doing. My most listened to song was an extremely basic one from fucking tiktok, and that's funny, i find that funny, I'd mock someone else for that and I'm willing to mock myself fornit as well, because i listen to a lot of things, but the one i listened to the most was that one, and I'm not even surprised, and I'll listen to it again I do have a problem with getting in on the popular thing as it explodes, but that's more of a self aware "i want to be different" thing that i also mock bc "wow, you (i) want to be different so hard 🙄", but also because I at a point of honest exhaustion with many industries (music, tv, movies, etc) where i honestly just don't trust what's popular and i don't want to contribute to stuff like Netflix having ppl binge watch a series or face cancelation, or everyone going over how amazing this movie is and you have to see it RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE SPOILERS and then I'll just... Wait. I'll watch it, maybe, if I'm interested in the concept, but i refuse to play into the viral aspect of media consumption, not bc of my issues with being basic, but for my issues with capitalism lmao, but i do know my mockery of playing into the hype of capitalism does overlap with my mockery (sometimes self directed, sometimes truthful) of what i consider to be basic
I feel like the email stating that the "Basic/Plastic" concept largely stems from growing up in a culture that is so heavily rooted in individualism was an excellent point. I notice that "being unique" often has to do with fast trends. So much has changed in the past decade alone because our survival (in the States anyhow) relies on making money, and if you aren't keeping up with trends and making whatever you sell stand out in some way, then you're not selling. Our survival is treated as individual endeavors; you can come out on top by being different from the crowd. It feels so competitive. The need to be "unique" is pushed on us at such a young age. I think it's important for people to understand that it's okay to be human, and that being apart of a community, being open to other people will not diminish your importance as a human being. As matter of fact, other people will make you stronger. But it can be really hard to find such communities; that's where (ironically) underground subcultures come into play. Underground subcultures are typically comprised of individuals who understand the importance of taking care of each other. Nowadays, however, these subcultures have been mostly taken over by people who want to be different from mainstream culture, yet don't look out for others and are very self-centered, or individualistic, and they cause more harm by pushing out people who have already been outcasted by most of society. So, it's become harder to find folks who are genuinely compassionate, and passionate about the movements because it seems that EVERYTHING has become a trend to monetize. It'd be nice for us to stop focusing on consuming trends, and as Shan put it, simply exist.
bro taylor swift if so perfectly rated. idk why she's hated on so much, of course not all her songs are perfect but her song writing is so good whether you focus on lyrics, melody, rhythm or the over vibe. I understand how people can not like her music because it's not their taste but her songs are not badly written/sung AT ALL
I got in the top 6% of listeners for stray kids this year, and even tho its not a popular band at my school, my classmates still flamed me when i posted it. on the other hand, my friend, who got top 0.05% of taylor listeners, also got made fun of for being basic and at this point it just doesn't make sense. do you want us to be diffrent or no?
also then people fighting over "who listened more to artist xy" and when you're "only" in their like 6%, the other stans ask you "are you even a real fan? im in their 0.01%..." or they just make weird remarks
I totally agree! I am raised in the suburbs, love Taylor Swift and Carly Rae Jepson. I don’t care if it makes me basic, because it makes me happy! Basic girl pride!❤❤
We were in French class once doing a culture unit, and we had to write about our favorite celebrity. My friend leaned over and asked me to name a singer, so I said my favorite: Ariana Grande. She was like "yeahh but that's too basic." Girl. It's a french project. And you had to ask me for a singer anyway!
Well, at least you weren’t a guy like I am. If I was asked that same question in front of a male friend, I’d be scared that they’d make fun of me even more, and, at worst, start lecturing me on why they think she’s so “horrible”.
@@prettierjesus3119 Omg yea! Guys at my school also like to rag on other people's interests, and for what? Also notice on male singers like Drake aren't ever called "basic". It's like anything associated with a teenage girl is somehow basic.
there was literally a whole article about how the anxiety of spotify wrapped each year affects people's mental health. we hate other people informing us about our listening habits throughout the year, especially if it was a bad year for you in terms of mental health. and yeah, people can be really judgemental about your top artists (ngl I do giggle at some people's I'm sorry) people hate being told that they're basic or like being told by others that they're interesting.
I don't leave comments very often, but this topic always fascinated me. When I was younger, I didn't really listen to music. My main source of it was the morning country music channel on Sundays and edgy rock AMVs every now and then. It wasn't until 2020 that I began doing so again, so my instinct is to assume all music I find out about is mainstream or well known about, which makes it a surprise when I come across people who tell me my taste is "unique." Like nah man, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have heard of Breaking Benjamin before, you're not fooling my ass. I think in this sort of basic bitch fingerpointing, a lot of people often forget that subcultures exist. Some people flex listening Mitski as if she's this super obscure indie woman, but on the side of the internet I'm on, it seems like everyone and their grandmother have been listening to her for ages. Mother Mother has been around for years (I remember seeing a lyric video for "Oh Ana" back in 2018), and it's only now I see people complaining about kids always putting it on their fandom playlists as if fandom babes weren't already making full animation projects to their songs for a while. Whatever's considered basic can be extreme obscure to another group of people by the mere existence of the fact that these smaller communities have their own set of standards and stereotypes. The alt community in particular is famous for crapping on newer alt kids or budding alt subcultures because of the hypervigilance around posers. The term Mall Goths, for example, was coined as a sort of "basic bitch" label as it was meant to deride kids who dress in alternative fashion because it looked cool and just "didn't understand the culture, man." The joke was that they spent all their time in mall shops like Hot Topic, and now it's considered an actual alternative subculture. Absolutely bonkers.
this will probably make me sound as pretentious as those people, but i can’t stand that uquiz users/makers automatically assume that people who don’t listen to mitski, lana del ray, and deftones are “basic” because 1) categorizing people who don’t have a very specific taste in music as “basic” defeats the purpose of being anti-basic. (plus those artists are already very popular) 2) those people seem to forget that versatility exists. i listen to bands that range from 19M mostly listeners on spotify to about 100. listening to weezer and radiohead doesn’t automatically make me basic/a poser, and listening to bands with my similar following to the soundcloud rappers in my area doesn’t make me superior to anyone.
@@silliestbillyXD You don't sound pretentious at all. In fact, I'd say the word pretentious is often overused in place of a far better term, but that's neither here nor there. You actually do a really solid job at proving my point: Lana Del Rey, in the circles where I run, is the biggest "basic white girl signifier." Summertime Sadness was one of the biggest songs when I was in middle school, so it's fascinating to hear you say that people act like she's some underground artist. And as a metal fan myself, Deftones is also "experimental metal 101" to a lot of folks in the community, so saying you listen to Deftones is like "dude, me too, tf?" A lot of these people likely feel like outcasts in real life and sort of revel in the romanticism of the refined art connoisseur on the outbreaks of the world to cope with the true loneliness of that reality. So when they get the chance, they enjoy being the gatekeepers rather the ones turned away from the gate to begin with. Shame that so many (including myself, I have to admit I do it too) approach art and our expression of love for it as some status symbol to lord over others, but that's really not something new. Also I've been out of the loop; when did Radiohead become basic lol? Tbh, I'd lowkey take being called basic that people telling me I listen to "male manipulator music" any day, so that's kind of good.
I made a list that relates to this subject: Likes/dislikes the thing (Normal) Dislikes the thing because others like the thing (Contrarian) Dislikes the popular thing because it is popular (Not like other girls/boys) (Hipster) Likes the thing because others dislike the thing (Edgy Contrarian) Likes the thing ironically (Ironic) Likes the thing ironically for so long that it doubles back and becomes unironic (Double Ironic) Knows that liking the thing ironically will make them truly like the thing, so skips the irony and just likes the thing (Meta Ironic) Likes the thing before others liked the thing and boasts about it (Hipster) Disliked the thing, but only likes the thing now because other people started to like the thing (Bandwagoner) Likes the popular thing ("Basic") (Normal/Trendy) Didn't like the thing, but now likes the thing because tastes change (Normal) Likes the thing and takes it upon self to deem if others truly like the thing and can be in the liking thing community based on standards made up in their head (Gatekeeper) Genuinely likes the thing, and doesn't care if others dislike the thing because they understand everyone has their own taste/preferences. (Normal) Genuinely dislikes the thing, and doesn't understand why others like the thing but doesn't boast about it. (Normal) Does not necessarily like or dislike the thing (Normal) Likes the thing obsessively (Fanatic) (Stan) Dislikes the thing obsessively (Cynic) Likes the thing and thinks they're better than others because of it. (Elitist) Likes the thing and thinks they're smarter than others because of it. (Intellectual™)
@Cincoat Exactly! So sick of the whole “Oh what you like X movie? You have terrible tastes!” Instead of idk having an opinion about instead of personally insulting someone for their opinion. People need to use their words better instead of acting so high and mighty. Saying something like “Personally I did not enjoy it” instead of “AnYone Who ThInks THiS X Is GOod Is Too YoUng To UnderStand rEal Art11!” Which is just so snobby and contributes to nothing but an elitist complex.
Everything "basic" is what women often like. It's called basic because of mysogyny. And of course hating on Talor Swift is already a cliche. She is very talented but because she's a woman, listening to her is "bad taste" 🤦♀️
That is not true. You'll get even more hate for listening to someone like Drake or Post Malone. They are male artists. It's just some people who think they are better because they listen to more obscure artists which is pathetic asf
Ah Taylor Swift. "Basic" if you like her music, "woman hating" (or whatever insult swifties design to call you) if you just don't like/connect with it (even if you're a woman?!?) No one wins here 😭
@@joebidenjr5902 it’s not about the gender of the artist, but the gender of the listener. Drake is super popular with women too, but someone like Kanye, who is more popular with men, probably won’t be called basic. Things men like are more likely to be called “classic”.
the character development i experienced when i went from being NLOG to just liking whatever and not giving a shit what other ppl liked when it came to music whewww like now i proudly post that i was in the top 0.5% of BTS listeners on my spotify wrapped bc i feel like music is such an intrinsic part of a lot of ppls identity so there's nothing for me to be ashamed of. like knowing that ppl will see me as basic and "liking the mainstream" actually has a greater importance to me bc i feel more proud that artists from the global East are getting enough recognition to even BE CONSIDERED mainstream. ok anyways that's not the point of the video but as always, another day another slayyy!! i love ur videos sm they verbalise a lot of feelings and thoughts i wouldn't be able to verbalise myself
It's a very strange and lonely experience not being part of social media. There is so much that occurs on there, so many discussions that I don't even realize are happening. I don't compare myself to people because I have very few people I interact with but I don't have many social connections either.
I don't have any social media accs save for a Pinterest acc (if that even counts) and I'm pretty happy about it. It's peaceful because i literally do not know what's happening so i can't be mad or sad about it. Ignorance is bliss.
Disconnecting myself from social media actually made me enjoy my interests much more. Im not constantly liking something just for others. i just like things.
Don't worry, you're def not missing anything. There's a reason why so many people have to go through social media "detoxes" to feel somewhat sane again.
Look, one of my most listed to songs this year was the nightcore version of "Whatever it takes". I do listen to a lot of indie bands that not so many people have heard off, but at the same time I love Kpop and there is something massively comforting in the knowledge that I have a interest that is shared by millions of people around the world. I have very much adopted a liking to the phrase "Don't yuck other people's yummh" and I think this is the best way to approach taste as long as it is ethical.
I thought “nightcore version of whatever it takes” meant an edgy version of the degrassi theme song and immediately looked it up bc that sounds INCREDIBLE… but that was nice too i guess
everyone wants to be unique but no one wants to be, like, *weird* unique. if a very specific brand of unique is fuckin popular then like... no y'all aren't unique
hi i'm a furry beat that
More like attractive unique.. unless they got sad and don't want attention but they usually still wear makeup to appear more conventionally attractive.. btw there are some awkward teens who more want to be invisible but I don't mean those in this case
manic pixie dream girl…
@@user-vw4xp5nt9f - You turning this into a competition and challenging someone to "beat that" is exactly the problem pointed out in this video. Also, the furry subculture works hard to fight off imposed labels of "weird" and works to normalize it so as to stop the ostracization and negative stereotypes they're afflicted with by people outside the fandom. You reinforcing the "weird" association, as some sort of badge of honor, undermines their effort to be accepted and not misunderstood. Besides, furries are getting popular as they enter the mainstream, which proves OP commenter's point. It's no longer "unique" to be a furry. It's still fringe, but not necessarily uncommon or underground.
@@nothing-jl2dz YES. Only attractive people get the weird pass. I know it's fictional but let's face it, if Wednesday wasn't played by stunning Jenna Ortega but rather someone more conventionally unattractive she wouldn't have half of the appeal, specially on the dance scene.
I hate when people are pretentious about this kind of stuff. I am an unapologetic lover of pop and I don't think thats a bad thing and yet, some people are way too concerned about it
Absolutely! You can talk about taste, but it's pointless to argue about it. No art or genre is superior to another. Everything created by mankind takes time, devotion, etc. For that alone I appreciate artist and their art (fascists excluded).
@@yoginella exactly!! it blows my mind when people take a stance and whole-heartedly believe they are “right.” with something as subjective as this, there is no right or wrong.
@@grlfromvenus Its similar to people who claim that there is no good music nowadays compared to the great artist they listened to when they were young.
There’s always room to expand your taste beyond mainstream pop which is where the pretentious ppl are coming from. There’s so much more out there. Including lesser known pop artists, if you really get into them concert tickets are muchhh cheaper.
@@adventurelandexpert7148 The pretentious people I’ve spoken to have come for mainstream pop and criticized it when I don’t think people should be condemned for listening to that genre. I whole heartedly agree that there is always room to expand your taste and try new things and I listen to a ton of different genres and decades. But I’m not going to tell people their music taste sucks if their top 5 artists happen to align with more popular artists
I hate when people don’t want their fav artists going popular like that’s how they pay their bills 💀🤷♀️
exactly there’s an artist i like that has 74 monthly listeners on spotify and i feel so bad for them they deserve way more
@@bauhausliker0 Ya mind dropping the artist? Maybe I'll give them a listen.
@@yourlocalanarchylovingcatguy gomalakka my fav songs from them are birra and fiat lux
Yes but it usually causes them to water down their music and lose any authenticity they had..
As Nelly Furtado used to say, "You liked me til' you heard my sh*t on the radio, but now I'm just to mainstream for you, oh no/you said good things come to those who wait, well I've been waiting a long time for this".
My roommate’s most listened to artist was soldier boy and she didn’t know how it happened and was too embarrassed to post it. But I know when she gets drunk I can hear her blasting it from her room.
I’m the 69th like 😂
Lmfaooo, Soldier Boy has bangers. Tell her not to be ashamed.
That's hilarious
LMFAOOO
That’s awesome lmao
I literally got made fun of because my Spotify Wrapped top 5 were entirely FNAF songs but then my friend got made fun of for having all Taylor Swift because it was ‘basic’. Like do you want us to have a normal Wrapped or what? 😭
For real… you can’t win in this world no matter what you enjoy
I saw a lot of people getting shit on when wrappeds were being posted online. There's no winning
I do enjoy my fnaf music though and despite what people think, I'll keep enjoying it
I haven’t showed anyone my wrapped because of this
I love fnaf musicccc- Some of it is actually quite good, I hate how people say it’s “bad” or “cringy.”
ok but i love the fact that u have FNAF songs!! I appreciate people who listen to game soundtracks, they are sometimes forgotten abt.
One time my media teacher said “I genuinely do not believe you like Taylor swift” cause she saw me in a mcr shirt one time and I had to explain to her that I have been to two concerts and Taylor swift is literally my favourite artist . People can like multiple genres ma’am
I like both of those artists too! I also like two door cinema club, Harry styles, the used, paramore, and the lumineers. You don’t have to stick with one genre
Okay it’s beside the point but TWO tswift concerts?! I’m so jealous
nothing to do with anything but what concerts did u go to omg
This happens to a lot of girls and women due to how society and the patriarchy sees us as one dimensional.
yeah! i love taylor swift and punk rock, and sometimes people will look at me a bit odd
“artificial interests to further their own self image” is such a banger line
Yeah! Think about all the people who didn’t know the lines at the Steve lacy concert, people have lost intention in what they like
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damn!
Funnily I think wanting to be 'special' and 'unique' is the most basic thing ever
(not that I'm shaming them)
@@leahshannon759I don’t think that applies bc they did have real interest just the TikTok version of it.
The thing that terrifies me is that this also applies to mental health, if you regularly have thought about k1lling ys, or you’re depressed, THAT makes you “different” I stopped trying to get better because of this. Because people think healing means being basic? And that line of thought is just so horrifying, the fact that you have to be mentally unwell and unhappy with yourself because it’s “cool”?!
omg for real it's so scary
kinda like when artists starts releasing music that's happier sounding than their previous work and fans are unhappy,,, it's like they don't want them to be happy I'm like whuat
@@vacationbibl3school coughs *lorde* coughs
yes and even if you do want to get better, the whole quirky mentally ill thing has made it so people just make fun of and joke about super sad topics. Like if i were to theoretically tell someone i was feeling down, it would not be a surprise if they were like “oh lmao i wanna kms too!” (i hate the acronyms kms and kys, it’s weird that we need acronyms)
it’s disgusting and sad. i don’t wanna stay how i am, and i don’t think it’s right, but when people joke about something too long it can lead to desensitization. i understand some people use it as a means of coping and that for the most part can be ok, but it’s such a widespread thing now and joking does have an effect on the public mindset, whether you want to admit it or not.
@@pigeondance fr!
the basic girl stuff is weird in the sense that being “unique/niche” is isolating. i genuinely do love seeking out niche/unpopular media because it’s fun to find undiscovered gems. but because of that, many of the things i like i can’t really share since people look down on it when i try. no matter what, everyone has a media comfort zone that they don’t particularly want to leave, and familiar things are comfy. uniqueness shatters connection through shared experience.
Ooo can you share stuff you like here with us? I'd love to find more hidden gems lately myself
I understand, but i still agree on not being so conformist to the point where you have no identity of your own but not the point where your competitively trying to be so unique/niche and having some sort of ego and calling other basic, or generic etc.
They needs to be a balance simply *Be Yourself*
Sounds cliche. But it’s the answer to these types of topics
@@144chosen I mean sure but if "being yourself" means liking so called "basic" things I genuinely don't see what the problem is with that. I get where your coming from but what your saying implies that to be yourself you can't like popular mainstream things and that to truly be yourself you have to differ from "the norm" in some way. Which isn't necessarily true for everyone.
@@purpleatemyrainbow9347 then you need actual friends. If you have genuine people who care about you in life they will want to be interested or even just listen to what your talking about wether they like it or not. My bestfriend is not a fan of KPOP but will bop with me and watch all my music videos with me. He knows he doesn’t like it but knows I do so there for is willing to try. You need more people in your life who are open minded and caring. Which is hard when society is so hyper focused on “being valid” and the internet they forget simple foundations of what makes a friend.
maybe it’s just me but i’ve found that another part of what makes it isolating is that I can’t connect with people on the popular side either. I’m incredibly out of touch so it makes it insanely hard to make new friends since I haven’t heard of half the things they’re talking about.
The thing is, even if you'd listen to indie, underground (or aka, underated) artists, you are not safe from being criticized. No one is actually safe because you will either be seen as basic, or a weirdo.
@@ventingmachine101 That is really what we should do, but it's also understandable that someone would fold to other's expectations. Especially after being dragged through the mud like this.
Personally, I would've folded under that much pressure too, but last year I had a resolution that I wouldn't let myself be stepped on by others anymore, and I think it definitely helped!
It even depends on what kind of indie and underground music you listen to cause there is always this battle of who can find the most underground artists with the least amount of followers. When certain 'underground' artists reach a certain amount of followers they also lose their appeal as being the music a 'unique' person listens to.
@@Jadeeatstofu That's so true! You are absolutely right on this! Remember when 100 gecs ( geks?) Were not very known so it went viral and after it went viral it was seen as too mainstream or even "cringe".
@@Kaffeeisresting Yep. It really speaks to how invested we are in curating these 'unique' identities. 😩
@@ventingmachine101 i got cyberstalked and threatened several times for listening to 100 gecs honestly you'd be shocked how far this extends. and gecs is mainstream
Being a music snob does not in fact make you a better person. Let people like what they like. Is Nirvana's Nevermind a bad album because it's popular? I don't think so
I consider myself a music snob but not because I gatekeep, but because I care a lot about certain things and can critique music a lot more than most people do. I listened to alternative music as a young teen so I was around people who listened to like… Halsey’s first album and I got the vibe but hated her songwriting and such. But I don’t think silly things like music stopped being good at a particular time, or you’re less worthy for liking x (including Halsey while I hate her songwriting).
Edit: autocorrect changed a word lol
@@LangkeeLongkee I agree, good criticism isn't condescending. I also liked Halsey first album. It came out at the tail-end of my alternative Tumblr girl era.
right? like theres a reason why its so popular
@@ChrisBrooks34 tbh I didn't like it but the people around me did, that's why I brought it up 😂😂
I WANTED to like it but I heard someone else put it into words, but at least to me and that person, it comes across like she had a vibe or a rhythm she wanted to present and put the lyrics as an after thought to fill the space. I genuinely think Colors was her song writing peak and I think she sounds great when she either goes full pop (like her character in the Sing 2 movie, her voice was AMAZING in that) or full rock (like her Experiment On Me song from the Birds of Prey soundtrack). My girlfriend loves her music though which is all well and good. Glad you had that moment. Genuinely. But I'm nitpicky about those things, hence why I do think of myself as a music snob even if I don't gatekeep. Not all the time, I just have my moments.
I've gone on record ranting about the rap verses from Popular Monster by Falling In Reverse being utter garbage and the worst part of an otherwise great track. But that's a vent for a different time and for different ears 💀💀
@@LangkeeLongkee "I just have my moments"
THIS. Please let's start normalizing occasionally being a bit snobbish about things we truly care about and understand. Sure everyone has an opinion, but I simply cannot accept that everyone's opinions have the same weight at all times.
I've noticed that it's mostly young girls and teenage girls who get shamed for being 'basic', so I'd say that this phenomenon could be related to misogyny🤔.
It 100% is, I've been experiencing it all my life, but you'll be gaslighted into thinking it's "actually" something else
Oh it is. Women aren't allowed to do fucking anything. If you're "basic", you get judged for being "basic". If you're different you get judged for that. There's no winning.
Thank you. I was hoping someone would call out the "like a white 16 year old girl" insulting someone with a race and a gender- a twofer!
“basic b*tch” is a term that shouldn’t exist 😊
Men my age also get shamed for being 'basic' quite a lot.
I feel like It's just because we teenagers are stupid (me included of course).
It’s ironic that people get mad when their favorite underground artist gets popular. When I met someone that knew my own favorite artist, I got super excited and wanted to talk about their songs more. I WAS STATIC when I saw that one of their songs got a million views. I never understood the whole, “let’s keep them underground!” No, I WANT them to be more popular because they deserve it.
I’m guilty of doing that a few times lol. There is some music that just feels like a precious gem you found, and you get to have the joy of showing it to other people for the first time. It’s not about not wanting the band to be successful. There is just something that feels not great when something you had a strong connection to “blows up.”
It usually means that because of this whole “it’s shameful to be basic” thing, liking it just doesn’t feel the same and you expect you’ll be chastised for liking something you “must have just heard on tik tok recently.”
It takes away the shamelessness of just straight up enjoying something freely before pretentious music buffs start dog piling it and hyping up stereotypes about what type of person you are for liking that thing. And considering that all it really takes for a band to start getting hated on is for it to become too popular and get overplayed (take imagine dragons for example) there’s this fear that it will happen to our fave too. Also when bands get popular, sometimes they sell our or change to appeal to the mainstream.
Not saying it’s a healthy mindset either. I would rather feel the way you do towards it. But I do think it’s pretty normal and understandable to feel this way about things from time to time.
exactly, my favorite artist is all but unknown except in a couple select communities, and i would LOVE for him to get some mainstream attention so i can talk to other ppl about his music and so other ppl can appreciate it (i was in the top 0.005% this year with 13k minutes)
and this can apply to music taste in general, i like indie electronic/videogame music and i struggle to find anyone who can appreciate it the way i do or at least not call it "boring" or "emotionless." i definitely wish the genre was more mainstream.
also who's your favorite artist? kinda curious
I AGREE W THIS! whenever i love a smaller artist i always want them to get more popular. but i think what a lot of people DONT want is for a song from that artist to get so popular to the point where it is over saturated. it makes you not want to listen to it anymore because you are constantly hearing it in other places. so thats why lots of people try to “gatekeep” or hide it. (my opinion)
And if everything you like is underground, good luck making friends because you won't be able to find a shared interest.
@@crelative9 ok but who's YOUR fav artist ??
It is SO DIFFICULT not to internalize this as a woman. It’s so easy to judge other women for being basic, but we can’t let misogyny win.
THISSS
*Periodt.*
I joined tiktok after a year and it looks like the women are super comfortable with letting misogyny win
❤
Yess period
I’m a basic pink loving, book obsessed, Taylor Swift, Lana del Rey, Harry Styles, lulu and brandy, Starbucks, converse girl and I’m proud
@@cassiuscruz8570I just realized that it autocorrected Rey and im a little bit embarrassed now🤞🏻
@@cassiuscruz8570as a fan that aint such a big problem...
Even if someone mispell an artist or just know few songs doesnt give u the right to judge "her verification of your statement" let ppl enjoy things!!
And btw her name was Ray, so....
nkay@@Onestamente
oh? ….
i love that ❤ do you
Being Basic is okay even if you get criticized for it within your friend groups and on social media
We have to make sure that this doesn’t flip over and have people start hurting other people that act slightly different than others because we👏 have 👏seen 👏it 👏happened 👏👀
Look at gaslighting 👀
Sorry I didn’t watch the hole video
@@teddybearsinthebox9318 the issue is that the people who were targeted for this in the past aren’t really being praised now. They were neurodivergent ppl mainly, and I can confidently say that it has not gotten better. However it’s more that the popular ppl from the past appropriated these subcultures. Like for example, to be goth you have to listen to the music first and foremost. But said popular people will simply wear black items and say they belong in the subculture. There are even those out there that whole heartedly fight to have lil peep recognized as a gothic icon.
All I’m saying is that being different was never actually normalized or encouraged. They were taken on as little costumes and fetishized. Hence goth girls being known as “kinky” when in reality I know plenty that want quite the opposite including myself.
@@lauraramier5366 you said it, bro. fucking hell
Was arguing with my mom about this not even 30 minutes ago!
She says "back in the 80's everyone had their own style and was more unique".
Older generations will just always find ways to shit on the younger ones, huh?
I’m inclined to believe the opposite considering the internet has facilitated unprecedented amounts of exploration and everything is so much more niche and fragmented now. But mums are the worst to argue with so conceding may be the smarter choice- gotta pick your battles 😂
It's a rite of passage for old people. You are constantly critical of the young ones and terrified for them and of them at the same time.
I never understand when people say that. People have always followed clothing and hair trends.
They had their own trends too
Oh and who did you listen to in the 80s mom? Madonna, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Michael Jackson, Prince, Def Leppard.
Older people are funny, if most of your favorite bands have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, its kinda hard to claim they were niche and underground.
Calling someone "basic" and calling them "pretentious" are two sides of the same coin: 'basic' is a way to criticize others for conforming to the norm; 'pretentious' is a subtle attempt to suppress deviations from the norm. While 'pretentious' is supposed to mean a palpably affected importance, or an attempt to impress others with the same, it's quite difficult and ultimately arbitrary to attribute such intentions to other people, and so the word is thrown around quite freely to disparage divergent interests or thoughts.
I never realized that people throw the word pretentious around like that because personally I strictly use it for its actual definition, but that makes sense. I think if that's the case people are definitely misusing the word.
daymn… ‘palpably’
i'll never forget this tiktok i saw a while back of a girl who kept a spreadsheet over songs she listens to that have less than 10k streams. she was mad because a song on there had gone viral on tiktok so she had to remove it. kind of half joking but in a "haha don't we all get upset when a niche thing we like becomes popular!" sort of way. it just seemed so bizarre to not only keep a spreadsheet like that but then also be annoyed that a small artist you like had a song blow up. that artist was probably really happy about it.
seems kind of miserable but what do i know, i'm a top 0.5% taylor swift listener!
That’s so weird lmaooo…I’m always so eager to share what I’m listening to so underrated artists I like might be able to get at least a lil more traction from my gushing about their craft.
I don’t get how people have the time for all of that like…wow!💀
i won’t lie but doesn’t this genuinely defeat the purpose of listening and enjoying music? stats and streams have sort of corrupted our perception of music i feel. either your music taste is basic bcs it’s popular or it’s looked down upon if it’s “too quirky and weird”. what good music means to given person should be music they enjoy, that’s it. whether that music is at the top of the charts or barely reaching 10 000 streams on spotify, it’s all valid
@@idkanymore12 People tend to forget that music is meant for your overall mood and enjoyment which is why I find it so weird that people judge what music people enjoy. It defeats the whole purpose of enjoying music 😭
Is consumption the only way some people know how to express themselves? The importance some people place on the media they consume is truly bizarre.
Maybe my taste in music is basic not because I am boring and basic, but because I leave the fucking house.
Right. They would rather have the song stay niche - they don't want others to have the joy of listening to it and they don't want the artist to succeed. Sounds incredibly selfish.
It’s ok to be basic. My most listened was mainly Afrobeat,Kpop, Dominican music and Melanie Martinez. My friend’s most listened was all jpop, and my other was all Taylor swift. That’s all ok. We are all totally different people, who go through different things, and like different music
@@hailsaep13 Hi, I just wanted to say that enjoying mainstream things is totally okay and it feels ridiculous to say it, but I totally get the stigma of having mainstream stars dominate your top charts.
I used to dislike seeing very well known people as my tops, but eventually I realized that enjoying something that others enjoy too doesn't discredit my affinity for it and definitely doesn't describe me. The people who you listen to shape you, for sure, but just because somebody is well known doesn't mean that their messages and ideas instantly become bleak and monochrome.
I think that labelling people as "basic" often discredits and undermines them as people with equally in depth personalities and interests as someone who isn't "basic". Don't let the media's fabricated guilt of enjoying popular things tear you down :) At the end of the day it truly doesn't matter if you like indie or mainstream artists, what matters is that you're enjoying what they make and that you're happy
@@hailsaep13 Honestly, Kaleido explained the reason very well but I just wanted to encourage you to listen to whatever you like. Don't care about being judged for that because no matter what you will listen to , people will still judge you in a way. My music taste revolve around Metal, Rock and Folk mostly but there are times where a "mainstream" artist's song would make me feel relaxed and put me in the right mood.
In the end, music is a part of our life and it helps in our good and bad times and a song that someone may dislike might have helped someone else in their bad times. Being judged for listening to "mainstream" or appearing "basic" just tells how insecure other people are to the point that they are judging someone's music taste to feel superior about themselves.
My top band was Ludo, top song Mary on a Cross and my overall top genere was pop punk
exactly! i don’t understand people who judge others for not listening to “underground” artists.
I am the opposite, in a way. I was a stubborn teen, and I'm just now learning to really appreciate and let myself enjoy pop and mainstream songs and artists. It feels wonderful to let myself experience more types of music :)
In a world where everyone's tryna be different, it's ironic how we all end up being, looking & doing exactly the same.
Ironic because we try so damn hard to be unique and snowflake or a protagonist because we have "unique" state of mind or world inside of your mind shaped by your taste yet we are nothing more than just NPC in the grander scheme of universe or at least, society.
my top artist was olivia rodrigo, i was in her 0.05% of listeners. a bunch of ppl made fun of me because shes “a popular and non-unique artist” but what’s wrong with that? i love olivia. i have cried and screamed my lungs out to her songs and have found peace in them and a way of honestly, therapy. her songs is something i can relate to and personally makes me feel represented and not alone. but some people make me feel like i can’t feel that way just because she’s a popular artist. she has been my top artist 2 years in a row, and both times my top songs were hers.
she was also in my top five!! i love olivia bc she's the artist that got me into music, before listening to her i never got the appeal. also congrats on too 0.05%! i was top 0.05% for taylor swift and it feels oh so good.
u are soooo real
The fact that that people bashed you for listening to a lot of a popular artist instead of having a standard percentile like them might be the most ironic thing I’ve seen in weeks. What a bunch of posers, I’m sorry you have to deal with that. I imagine these people are teenagers, I hope they grow out of that mindset soon because it’s embarrassing.
she was mine too. i blasted her album the whole year and I'm still doing it because i think it's an amazing album.
@@sophia7881 i can’t tell if this is sarcasm
I enjoy spotify wrapped in the same way that I enjoy personality quizzes- they're fun but don't take them too seriously. Spotify wrapped telling me I'm in the top 4% of Mitski listeners has the same amount of impact in my life as getting string cheese in the what kind of cheese are you quiz
Was it a Buzzfeed quiz? They aren’t accurate as a UQuiz which always is weirdly on point for me
i love this comparison so much lmao
Same lol
I am in the top 2% because of unrequited love and it not made me cool
top 4%YAY SAME!! I LOVE MITSKI
personally.. i like being basic; i like being a ordinary teenage girl, who watches rom-coms and wears jeans and t-shirts. and that doesnt mean i dont have my own "quirks" but i still like following the trends, and doing the things other girls do.
exactly 😇
THISS ^^^^
Slayyyy
This!!!!!!!!
SO REAL
Being a hardcore music snob is something that gets a pass when you're an insecure 14-year-old, but it should die down when you become an adult in your early 20s.
Most adults never grow out of their insecure 14 year-old self
literally me. i’m 16 now and know better, thankfully
yeah i was gonna say any time someone acts like that it just screams, “i’m insecure and i try way too hard”. most people come around as they age. getting older typically means caring less and just doing what you like. but for some unfortunately they are never comfortable and confident enough to just be themselves.
I like all songs lol
Good to see gen z discover what it was like being in the goth/emo/punk/indie subculture of the early 00s. Nothing like being cool for liking the super obscure band My Chemical Romance one day and then being called a poser for wearing their merch the next. Not that that gave me trauma or anything.
Girl, I'm right there with you.
Felt this one on a different level
this comment spoke to me on a personal level lmao
Then there’s me wearing random bands on my shirt because it was on sale for 5$🤣😂😂
Yes. BUT. If you're honestly saying that being called a poser as a teenager gave you trauma then you don't understand a single thing about trauma. Maybe i missed something, but this really pisses me off
being a girl/women is extremely exhausting. it’s like the world is literally out to get us and pick apart every aspect of ourselves we wouldn’t otherwise have any problem with.
Men up!
@@danieladamczyk4024 in suicide rates, absolutely! now go add onto that statistic and do us all a favor of not having to deal with your vile kind.
@@danieladamczyk4024 Wouldn't that make us "pick me girls" or something
@@candylide Can you explain?
@@danieladamczyk4024 There is always a label for whatever women do, and if your comment "men up" means that we should be more masculine (correct me if i'm wrong), then we would be a "pick me girl" aka, a girl that "acts masculine" to gain men's attention
Or maybe a "not like other girls girl", in which we try to stay away from what's considered "normal girl stuff" or even considered attractive/sanitary, just for the sake of being different
My point is, being normal is being a "basic bitch" but trying to differentiate yourself from what's considered normal/feminine is also wrong or another label to laugh at
I had a very formative conversation with my best friend in middle school. I was trying to get them to read the Hunger Games before the movies came out so we could go together, but they literally said they were too 'mainstream'. I could not understand this at all, and said something (less articulately) along the lines of, "If you base your interests off what ISN'T popular, you're still letting the popularity of things dictate your interests! Just like things without considering how other people think of them!" Unfortunately we couldn't just let it go because were middle schooler's and it evolved into our first real fight haha.
I'll admit to slipping into thoughts of trying to be 'special' or 'not basic' from time to time, it's really annoying actually. Why haven't we invented a button that automatically deprograms you from all societal conditioning! I'd pay good money for that.
man i miss when arguments were this harmless lol. so many of these in my memory
@@lowlowseesee I agree! It's great to reminisce about. We we're all so silly
Really good take!
That's pretty thoughtful. Well said
Same for me but with shows… like I know people who refuse to watch stranger things and make fun of it because it’s “mainstream” and “basic”
It's funny to me when someone says 'you've got a great music taste!' because that just means you both listen to the same music. Art is subjective, what I think is great someone else may hate, and thus there is no 'good' or 'bad' taste
So true
good taste might refer to music that everyone would like, like someone might know an obscure song that if put in a movie would go viral the next day, that's someone with good taste he can hear something good no matter if it's popular or not
@@sir.public Hmm, so taste comes from finding music outside of popularity? Makes sense tbh
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@Trinity M I agree with that to an extent, there can be objectively bad parts of art. For example, I love terrible, raspy voices, with my favourite band being The Front Bottoms. While the fandom can all collectively agree, yeah, they can't sing, we still listen because the rest of their music fits our subjective tastes. I see art in general in that way. A drawing may have bad shading or wrong proportions but those are just parts of the picture, you know? Even if an art teacher says it's trash, someone will look at it and think it is brilliant
last year my top song was 505 by arctic monkeys and i was laughed at for being too basic. this year my top song was sober to death by car seat headrest and people were like "ew what is that i've never even heard of them" and judged me for listening to a "weird" band. how does one win
CAR SEAT HEADREST
listen to Kanye
literally thank you so much for this comment. i hadn't heard of them either and they're so underrated
Discovered car seat headrest this year and wish I could go back to my 15 year old self and share them with her. They are amazing. Also discovered deftones way too late… but what a weird feeling I impose on myself like I was supposed to, between the ages of 13-25ish have heard every band I was ever going to love 😅
I’ve seen this sort of obsession with not being considered “basic” from a lot of people (even those who’d be considered basic by most) Usually they justify their like of those popular things by claiming some special circumstance like they “discovered them before they were popular” or they’re “real fans unlike everyone else who are just poseurs” It shows you how “being basic” is just perspective we create.
I always find those "I discovered them before they were cool" comments hilarious, because I've had people in my life say stuff like "I'm a real fan, since I found them when they were underground", but then when those bands started making headway into mainstream culture, those self-proclaimed "real fans" suddenly stopped listening to their music... Like, if you genuinely love a band, you wouldn't dispose of them, the second they get more mainstream!
@@janefins261 and surely, if you were a massive fan, you would be really happy of their success and that they got mainstream and achieved their dreams!!
Everything in life is a perspective we create
Everybody is obsessed with being unique. It is about the most “basic” thing out there in my opinion. And - it makes sense!Inventing a sense of non-mediocrity is just another way of trying to add meaning to your life
I've seen this too with Western "City Pop" fans who are just listening to Japanese Boomer Pop/Funk/AOR so most are not even close to being the "real" fans, yall were a fetus at best or non-existent at worst lol.
I never got this as being into music not in your country's native language can be very isolating as a foreign fan especially for more niche genres like Hip-hop, Jazz, Drill, etc so I welcome new people to talk to as this sht can be lonely 😅
my top song this year was beethoven. and instead of losing my punk card, i think i actually transcended to the next level.
Which beethoven? If moonlight sonata or fur elise you're basic and not a real fan. /s
@@user-vw9lj1yn1b it was romance no. 2 in f major, but I am absolutely still basic and not a real fan.
BEETHOVEN BAHAHA that caught me out off guard 🤣😭 No but honestly I don't listen that much but I like it 😂
@@user-vw9lj1yn1b what makes a person a 'real fan' in your opinion?? /gen.
@@glittr4brainzz they enjoy a good deal of the artist's work
I love that you discussed this... While I was abroad in Asia where most cultures are extremely collectivist, I had such a hard time explaining why Americans think "basic" is an insult hahaha I would say, "It means you only like what everyone else likes" and they would respond "isn't that a good thing? Don't you want to fit in?" Hahaha this is such an American concept
I found it really interesting this year that I actually had no real desire to publicly share my Spotify wrapped. Not out of insecurity but I realised I’ve gotten to this place where I just don’t feel the need to (at least not as much as before) signal things to people- which is rather comforting. It used to be that if I wasn’t being witnessed living my life then I wasn’t rlly living it but now I’m perfectly content with not being ‘watched’
i like this
I hope to reach this level of comfort with myself someday. You're doing great
Same. I used to post about everything I ate on social media, it was like a weird addiction. I quit social media this year and have not missed it once. It feels good not feeling like I have to share everything about my life all the time just so people can know
Same lol, i used to post my spotify wrapped to show everyone how cool and unique my music taste is (🙄🙄🙄) but this year i really just did not feel the urge or need to do that. I think i just grew older and started caring less about trying to be different and trying to feel unique. I also realized how lowkey pathetic it is to try to be more unique or special than other people for the sake of feeling superior. Like that genuinely is so lame and SAD.
And that’s why I literally deactivated all of my social media accounts (IG, Tiktok, Twitter) two months ago and plan on never going back. It did feel weird at the first going out to a nice place and not posting my outfit or food. That’s when I realized how conditioned we are, when I would everyone else grabbing their phone to snap a pic. It’s like wow am I even living if people don’t see it? Have we really become that addicted to other people’s perception of us? Yikes. Anyways, the sense of peace that came after was/is so worth it. I feel more free to just be.
i had no shame in sharing my spotify wrapped because i know that no matter what i do, people will always judge me. 💪😕
good for you!!!!
Lololol feel the same
same tbh
exactly lol
Knowing this is actually really freeing!
people really want to be unique and stand out until their true, non performative self stands out. I was bullied a lot in middle school/ early highschool for being the weird emo kid. I just listened to MCR and wore black, not even that unique by emo standards, but i was harassed and isolated none the less. When being “alt” became a trend a few years ago I was seething with anger, not because The style became popular but because all the people that made my life a living hell were crawling back to me and acting all buddy-buddy because i gave them brownie points. The “fame” I got from that trend was short lived because when the belts and spikes weren’t chic anymore I was dropped like a sack of potatos. I don’t have as many problems now that I’m in college but I still get many glares from my peers. I personally don’t give a shit if someone listens to the most popular cookie-cutter music or the most underground shot ever, I just care when people are dicks to others over their interests, popular or otherwise.
The Spotify wrapped thing is hilarious to me, because - at least with my experience of Spotify - the app gives you songs and artists to listen to… but it’s almost always driven by algorithms, themselves.
Of COURSE you’re going to have a lot of popular music, because the algorithms are gonna PUSH that music.
That's only on mobile. If you're on the computer you get to pick your own songs (and have it go on repeat).
Yeah! If they want us to know more underground artists so promote them, dammit
Well not really. If you listen a bunch to some genre, the algorithm is going to give you more. This works with pop music and indie music alike. So I guess a lot of music you listen to will depend on the music you started listening to years ago. But I guess spotify promotes popular music at the default home screen so maybe you're right.
Not necessarily. If you systemically tell them not to give you popular music, disliking and skipping pop music right away, they will give you the mainstream musicians within your genre instead of the top 40. Altho I somehow ended up at the top 2% of Slipknot's yearly listeners this year without ever actively playing Slipknot (my guess is autoplay favouring them over other musicians I was listening to) so maybe I'm just clueless
Spotify kept sending me more and more niche artists because that's how I interacted with the algorithm. That isn't meant to be a humble brag, just an example of how preferences will shape the result. It makes sense to me that more than 50% of listeners would be pushed the opposite direction since popular music is popular for a reason.
I'd rather be considered basic and boring than hide what makes me happy and the stuff I actually like
it's sad that people don't feel comfortable being themselves out of fear of being judged and looked down upon by others honestly :(
You summed up pretty well with the last phrase honestly, as it goes both ways.
Anyway, if it puts a smile on my face, I'm gonna own it, damn!
I’m sadly the opposite of you.
yessssss
same here :)
@@prettierjesus3119 hopefully one day you can fully embrace the things that make you happy and be comfortable sharing them!
ive always been called basic for being a swiftie like my entire life but id rather listen to music that means something to me and i actually enjoy rather than listen to music that doesnt make me happy for the aesthetic of being weird or quirky
ik its hard for you to understand but the music you think people listen to only for the aesthetic of being weird, means a lot to them too, and and its basically what they enjoy.
@@ananyarai4607you didn’t understand, she means that she rather hear music she likes not music she should like to fit in the aesthetic. Never once mentioned anything about ppl listening to “aesthetic” music not actually liking it.
Obviously haven’t finished the video since this is such a recent upload. But this topic is so interesting and almost frustrating because it’s really sad people feel they can’t publicly show off their greatest joys. Music is a lot of people’s favorite medium of art, and even for those that it isn’t, it’s still a huge comfort.
you're making it sound like being generic is some adversity :D
This brings to mind a quote by Virginia Woolf: “No need to sparkle, no need to shine; no need to be anyone but oneself.” We really need to exile the internal audience in our head that seethes at every gesture of authenticity that isn’t “hip” enough to be loved.
i want to thank you for bringing up those who are neurodivergent. i never had the choice to be “basic”. being “too different” comes with struggles nobody talks about
Im not neurodivergent, but im often seen as one. and yeah it hits me hard. Im so tired of being seen as adhd/autistic and QuIrkY when my issues are so damaging to me because im extremely different, Im literally all the categories except for fat people. being different kinda sucks and its nice seeing someone mention it for once. i totally understand
@@bruh438 the way i feel this. I think all this is essentially the meaning behind this lyric from the song Strawberry Fields Forever; "No one (I think) is in my tree. I mean, it must be high or low." You feel as though something is wrong with you because you don't see things the way most do, so you wonder if you're the only one. And people make being qUiRkY and uNiQuE out to be such a great thing. But it can also feel really lonely and it can suck big time
@@inserthahafunniusername9656 yeah this is how it really feels, tysm for getting it. there are more cons than pros from my differences so yes its unique but i prefer the word 'weird'. i also understand why people like fitting in with similar people, but when no one is like you, most lose interest. i lost my friends recently bc i denied my diagnosis (they were using me bc im 'quirky'). it also saddens me how some cultures in the world only recognize physical disabilities, i have asthma but my lack of focus and social interaction has caused me more harm than necessary. normies and oddballs like to fit in, but we'll just stay in our own exotic trees. i love the song i added it to my playlist lol. 'Alien' by lebanon hanover also perfectly captures the feeling.
Ive been thinking about this idea a lot lately, for my birthday this year my mom bought me a bunch of cute decorations and balloons and everything was pink themed with party hats, and made this cute cake topped with sparklers. Just the perfect "movie" birthday, the stuff you see on pinterest and instagram- and my friend while I was sitting in my little chair after blowing out my candles said, "god you're such a basic bitch" and honestly? That ate me up so much all night. I didn't know what to say- I just thought those parties were cute and it's what I wanted for my birthday lmao. Idk the basic bitch thing is kinda the worst.
Wow, what an incredibly hurtful thing to say on someone’s birthday, I’m sorry
I would throw that whole friend away. Or I'd tell them they hurt me, and if they don't care or make an effort to be nice, I'd throw them away.
@@shadows-sweet-embrace she's a family friend with her own issues- I love her but she projects her issues a lot
@@jillybear3241 even if she’s going through her own shit, that doesn’t give her the right to hurt you. you deserve to be surrounded with people who treat you better.
Dude your bday should be the day where you indulge in everything that makes you happy ! What kind of friend would say that to you when you're clearly enjoying yourself ??
I find an interesting example the “alt fashion trend” of 2020/2021. because I’ve always loved alt fashion and when it suddenly became more widely accessible i immediately “jumped on the trend”, you could say. the thing is, im still in those subcultures after they became “unpopular”again. which just shows me that sometimes you like things regardless of their popularity. not all your interests need to be unique, as long as you’re happy.
Exactly
honestly things becoming trendy can be nice too. i always liked emo & gothic styles, but i never went through with getting into those subcultures since emo & goth stuff was something to be “ashamed” of. once alt stuff became trendy and i gained the money to try it, i really liked it!! and now im still into it!
The real hipster move is to cling to one trend or style for as long as possible even as it cycles between uncool and cool
love the things you love unironically and own your style
@@flamingpi2245 how? If you like something regardless of whether it's in or not, that's more being true to yourself than following a trend
my dad told me the story of him having a jazz snob friend who wouldnt listen to anything else and always put 'lowbrow' music genres down and my dad whos also a jazz liker was like, why would you be like that? a good song is a good song no matter the genre. liking jazz doesnt mean you cant like dangdut or pop music, like what you like instead of trying to show off how "sophisticated" you are. and i think this is like a core memory that shaped my personality ever since, not just with music but everything. i agree with this video, great work
I never really liked Dangdut and it's definitely not my cup of tea and it's hard for me to liking it personally since I grew up listening EDM, Hip-Hop, RnB, Pop and liking some futuristic sounds and industrial sounds. But I hit a life stage where trashing other genres are just pathetic to me and instead of acting that you're protagonist, while not just accepting that people just have different world of music in their mind
I always feel a bit repelled by the ideas of "being basic" with style and decor. They usually bore me. I like flamboyant colours and patterns and odd thrifted pieces. But I am not a mom and only recently entered the workforce fulltime. Throughout my 20s I had the time to wander thrift shops and the incentive to find cheap, interesting clothing and accessories. I didn't have to do a school run or make a family meal. I also happened to be living in a city with many vintage shops and varying price points so I had access to options. I could afford to turn my style into my hobby.
But many women simply don't have the time or $ to explore styles and aesthetics. These things are usually the luxuries of youth. A working woman may not be wearing all black because she loves all things gothic - she just needs things to match easily so she can get to work on time. A mom with a toddler likely isn't doing a top knot bun to channel Balletcore - she just needs an easy way to wear her hair so she can get back to wrangling her kiddo. In fashion, "Basic" is code for comfort, ease of wear and accessibility (and sometimes being inexpensive). Building personal style takes time and $ and is, frankly, a privilege. Tearing down a woman for being too "basic looking" is really just a way of bullying someone who doesn't have enough time or $ to be avant garde with their style. It's a symptom of classism and misogyny and speaks to the way we try to erase women and keep their lives complicated.
(Also FUCK that guy pissing on women for "getting the same weave every 8 months"! Like women owe you entertainment by changing their appearance to suit you or to keep from boring you! Fuck all of the way off!)
i get what you mean. most people don’t have the time or money to build an aesthetic. I’ve always worn basic stuff because we couldn’t afford to spend money to change up our style every year or something. i’ve always had the same hairstyle because we didn’t have the time to braid it or curl it or any special style.
you're so right bestie! love 💞
Yes, and also: every time I see people following trends and being basic, I think they’re simply not into fashion and decor that much. They have other interests, so they don’t spend much time exploring their own style
i loved everything you said! especially "Tearing down a woman for being too "basic looking" is really just a way of bullying someone who doesn't have enough time or $ to be avant garde with their style". some people really go out of their way to seem different & unique to feed their own egos. if something is mainstream & liked by many, it most likely is a good thing. so why shame people for liking.. likable things? so weird!
I agree with you except for style being only for the youth. I’m in my twenties and I never have time to hone my psychobilly style. I’m stuck with a style I absolutely hate, because I can’t afford to make or buy clothes. I never have time to actually use my sewing machine and upcycle thrifted outfits.
"Can I please just be a basic b*tch in peace?" ~Tee Noir
Yassssssssss
My ex boyfriend used to always bug me about why I listen to Taylor Swift and not more emo/indie bands that he listens to, he pretty much shamed me for being basic. (even tho he literally was the most average german boy ever)
After we broke up I just completely stopped caring about what others think of me or my music taste because i was literally overthinking so much about such an unimportant topic
that’s so sad :( i’m so sorry
I WISH I HAD AN EMO AND INDIE BAND ENJOYER BOYFRIEND :(
@@mcrmakesmedanceyea you do unless he basically judges your every move and all of the music that isn‘t emo indie bands 💀
Its not fun not being able to express yourself because your PARTNER considers it not worthy of listening to
@@lileeau emo indie bands are good idk what ur talking about
@@mcrmakesmedance im not saying they arent i listen to a lot but i dont want to only be able to listen to one kind of genre because otherwise i would be “uninteresting“
I recently talked on a dating app with a girl, we seemed to get along great, we were cracking jokes and teasing each other and then we exchanged letterboxd profiles? I saw her watching almost exclusively new wave 60s films and she saw me watch almost exclusively newer horror films (and the Happiest Season, obvs ) she went sth like: 'its fascinating how passionately you're watching such bad movies'. I was shocked? I was really there for a moment thinking: am I basic for watching horror? Should I watch french new wave? THE👏MOST👏INSECURE👏PPL👏ARE 👏CALLING 👏OTHERS 👏BASIC
it may be a hard pill for you to swallow, but there are cinemaholics who could assume your taste in movies is too primitive for them. the other question is why be so rude.
If horror is basic, what I watch is equal to oxygen😐😐
@@amberraining9546 you realize that you’re commenting under a video essay criticizing the culture of being different/nlog, right? just because someone’s tastes are more mainstream doesn’t make them “primitive”
@@amberraining9546 Ok, and whose problem is that?
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For a short time this year, I started listening to music on Spotify for the sole purpose of having it show up in my Wrapped. I wanted to be able to post my Wrapped and be “proud” of the songs and artists that showed up. Honestly, I think the whole idea of a public wrap up fucked me up, the same thing happens to me on Goodreads. I try so hard to present myself a certain way online and I’m sick of it, not doing it anymore
Omg same, I would not read the romantic sappy books that I thought people would make fun of me for on Goodreads, just to look “intellectual” lmaoo
@@eguls98 literally, I started picking up books I wasn’t that interested in just so I didn’t feel embarrassed about the genres I enjoy most
literally how it was for me. i changed my insta bio several times a week, just to make it look aesthetic and trying so hard to impress others with my pretty account. all this because of what other people might think and always curating everything for others to perceive me in a certain way. it’s insane even writing it down now holy shit lol
yeah lol im kinda like that too
Just remember that enjoying popular stuff does not make you boring or basic, everyone is different from one another and a lot of people just happen to share some interests
I’m sorry I absolutely hate people who think because someone or something is liked by a large amount of people that that means it’s not good art/media anymore.
Or that smth that is only liked by small number of ppl Has to be good. It can be, but it doesn't make it automatically more worthy bcos its "less mainstream"
It always confuses me cause what’s wrong with a good artist getting attention💀
like, there’s a reason they’re popular.. usually because it’s really good
there's one thing to like popular stuff and another to be reductive and devoid of critical thinking
@@bertramwinkleofficial but that's literally not reality ;D
my problem was that in middle school was bullied for being too weird, and because of this i took on the whole "basic bitch hater" persona where i claimed to not like "basic" people because they listened to "mumble rap" and followed celebrities when in reality i hated them because they reminded me of my bullies
Real.
people who complain about mumble rap are actually the worst
@@danaenaegod5203, people don’t like something you like that makes them the worst? I think you need to prioritize what makes a person actually bad.
@@Andyatl2002 the term has racist ties so nah
@@danaenaegod5203, the term was coined by Wiz Khalifa, was it not? Any rapper including white rappers can mumble rap so I don’t exactly see why it’s a racist term only that it probably depends more so on the person. It’s just describing how words aren’t emphasized properly in some rap songs, I like knowing the lyrics of a song and this extends to other genres too at least for me.
This is one of my favorite topics ever. As a metalhead I see both sides constantly, and they're equally as toxic. I love this video :3
it’s always been interesting to me when people complain or ridicule people for being basic, while also being the main people who bully unique people or just anyone that’s “too” different.
It has never made sense to me, how some people gatekeep others from listening to the same music they do. Have they not realized that the artists and bands will not live long with just a handful of fans? It is literally the worst thing you could do to someone whose music you enjoy. People can be so strange.
Well if they get too big they might have to do stadium concerts instead of smaller venues which kind of sucks. But otherwise yeah, the artists need support if they are going to keep making music.
My therapist and I talk about this way too often, probably because I used to be one of those people who would judge those who are more mainstream (I’m sorry I already know LMAO). I think it all stems from just being so insecure, seeing all these people online (mainly tiktok) being cool and different and seemingly secure with these cool tastes in clothes, music, movies, etc,. It is all based in insecurity in yourself. The more I realize that I, in fact, do not dictate what is cool because being insecure is anything but, the more I accept people for what they really like, and in turn making me feel better about what I genuinely like. It took me a lot of time to realize that a lot of my issues are interpersonal, and stemming from me wanting to be “cool”, but I had to realize that being “cool” just is, and you cannot prove that to people. You just simply are. No matter what people think, life is short and you have to make the best of it. Like that popular band or movie, like the Beatles’ worst songs, cry to Taylor Swift, hate all the filmtok movies… it really doesn’t matter unless you think it does. Basic isn’t real, and knowing that can make your life SO MUCH BETTER.
I adore Billie and Halsey, I always felt weird about it as a middle aged white guy who used to pride himself on liking just 'edgy' rock music as I saw it..still love that stuff, but also have a lot of room in my playlists for Chloe Moriondo, CHVRCHES etc etc
Judgement in music taste is something I always fell prey to growing up, and I have to actively fight it today - there is no 'sh*t' music or 'basic' music, you either get it or you don't.
And the intense misogyny you described has made me tense and annoyed and have to go to store for Xmas supplies, so going to play Aurora to lift spirits.
Superb video as always, even if it made me feel old and self-conscious about my more Judgemental self.
YOOOO CHVRCHES, you got good taste
what's your favorite song/album? I'd say my favorites at the moment are The Mother We Share, Bitter End, California, How Not to Drown, and Lullabies!
Ah, tough one. I first got into them from the Love is Dead album so that will always be a fave (esp Never Say Die and Miracle).
I’m a teenage black girl with the exact opposite problem.
Being a Taylor Swift fan is the wildest thing cause she’s the most niche not-niche artist ever, you can get called out for listening to her both by people who like popular and unpopular music and most of the time the one’s calling you out are just others who listen to her too cause the streams have to be coming from someone lol
Same with JB
LEAO VC ESTA POR TRAS DISSO TDO HAHAHAHAHA
aeeer povo de londrina i cambe kde aquele cara q eh fa da taylor swift
eu ainda vo faze eles dois se encontra e realisar o sonho dele vcs vao ver hahahahahaha
this is actually surprisingly true, you have those really big taylor swift fans and people who just listen to her.
I was actually surprised finding out that Taylor Swift's music is considered to be "basic".
I'm from Ukraine, so American [music] industry is not *our* main industry, thus I had no idea who's "cool" and who's considered to be "ew" or "basic". I knew that some Taylor Swift exists, but I didn't ever heard a song of her (turns out later that I did, just had no idea who sang it). I never knew how she looks, so I thought that it's just another "mediocre 40 y.o. american pop-ish artist that was popular in 2000s" (yeah I was not-like-others type).
When I eventually find out more about her, heard some songs - I really liked it. I got into her music, got into swiftie-safe-space-bubble so I was like GENUINELY surprised finding out that she and her music are hated or just strongly disliked by not-like-others folks, that liking her considered to be "basic" and non-unique. Her music is different, there's typical pop, country, rock-ish stuff, beat+electronic music+badass lyrics stuff, calm folk-ish music, and it all contains AMAZING storytelling with her great voice and melodies, that can fit to your different moods.
"Life is too short to say you hate Taylor Swift", indeed it is
my spotify wrapped top artist was taylor swift and i was in the top 2% of her listeners. and my other top artists were twice loona itzy and little mix. i really like girl groups so this makes sense for me.
Purrr #stanloona
@@samaraangeline5779 YESSS stanloona :) and bring back chuu
Twice!!!!! And little mix!!👏👏
hell yeah stan loona (but remember to boycott 😭)
@@EverydayZer0 justice for chuu
I was neither surprised nor embarrassed about who my top artist was. I was, however, embarrassed that my top 5 songs were ALL by said artist. I was like dang is she all I listened to?
can relate...
Same.
Despite my interests in a wide variety of music, experimental or not, and mostly to metal, I was legit shocked that the artist that I listened to the most was System Of A Down. Top 5 songs, all them. Especially their one song "Suite-Pee", which apparently I listened to the most.
I was like, "Wait, so I'm a SOAD fanatic?"
my top songs were all from the same album that i couldn’t stop listening to for like 3 months 😭
Same 3 of my top 5 were all of FKA Twigs. I’m not surprised, I loved her last album to pieces but I wished I had some variety!
more than half of my top 100 was arctic monkeys LMAO
Weird example, but I never truly realized how hostile people could be to those that stray even slightly from the norm, until one day, I decided to take a bottle of cucumber flavored gatorade: something I drink not because its 'different', but because I genuinely enjoy it. Upon doing this I was met with a strange level of hostility from my classmates who generally/ normally respect me. Most of it was joking of course, but this was a reminder of how closed-minded people can be, and how much easier it is to be 'normal'.
My top artist was MARINA and I could literally not be more proud of myself for that, like yeah, I was in the top 0.5% of her listeners, 1,362 minutes, and I had a very wonderful time doing so 😌
SAME! I love marina
@@user-pn5jb3zp8v Yesssssss her music so gooooood
i love her last album
marina is literally the best
Mines ms Amy Winehouse. Love her, especially her Frank album for 1,498 minutes. I was in the top 0.1% listening to her so 💀
Either way I love marinaaaaa 🖤
People are absolutely ridiculous… my top album this year was Encanto… I do not have children I just really loved the music from the movie. I am happy I listened as much as I did because it made me happy. Also, as a Mexican who grew up in the US since I was 5 I totally relate to being made fun of for my taste. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told I’m “white washed”
Nombre que coraje
My music taste is so random , one song would be a goth rock and the next thing you know Katy Perry starts playing right after. These people on twitter find it weird apparently but it's normal, I don't get to control what song I'm into this week and it's just a spotify wrapped it's not a big deal.
i think it's the best way, because with that taste you don't limit yourself and can experience all the best things from any genre!
im like this too, i listen to a slayer song then after that i listen to nicki minaj 💀
im a big fan of metal music but i love me some shakira
I listen to Blackpink and BTS after went through my "King Crimson" or classic rock music or dark ambient obscure era like The Beatles, Swans, Brian Eno, Twin Peaks ambient music or Pink Floyd. Look how random was that lmao
I relate to this
My friend were literally just having a conversation about the nature of being or believing oneself to be "NLOG" and gosh we want to be unique so bad but sometimes it's just ok to like what a lot of other people like?? Because if so many people like it, maybe there's a reason!
Yes! Be free and like what you like, popular or obscure.
@@ItBeThatWaySometimes indeed.
Also, being exclusively into obscure musicians sucks when you want to make small talk and no one knows the bands you're mentioning while you're hearing about Olivia Rodrigo for the first time and have nothing to say
@miglek9613 urgh, felt. Almost all the bands I like have super small followings and I always feel the conscious need to listen to mainstream artists when they make new albums at least once just so I'm not completely out of the loop
@@magnificloud I personally just listen to songs when they go like internet news sites viral (ex. Montero, WAP), otherwise I just talk about my more mainstream musicians (Florence and the machine and Paramore being examples) and keep the rest to my friend group
when i heard people talking about curating what music they listen to to make their spotify wrapped look a certain way i was so baffled, i love the authenticity of sharing raw statistics about my music listening habits on the internet. it's especially nice just because i am someone who listens to a lot of weird music, but generally considers it more of a hindrance than a flex in real life conversation about music taste. that's a nice thing about social media i think, having an outlet for your interests without needing anyone to understand enough to hold a conversation about it with you.
tbh I kind of curated my playlist, but only bc i wanted to be the top 1% of my favorite band's listeners, because I like them so much
> but generally considers it more of a hindrance than a flex in real life conversation
yeah, i dont relaly get why people think its so great to listen to "weird" music. when i tell someone what i listened to all year and show them some of my favorite songs, and they look at me like im the weirdest person theyve ever seen and go "oh... its... different" im not proud, i just get sad. it feels bad to be isolated from music taste conversations. thats why i like talking about it on the internet, theres always people who will connect with you and share the same interests and not judge you for like things that are "too weird". i guess im in the same boat as you
@@buddleia yeah, I know that and I'm working on it. Now I have a set of friends who dont judge me, after years of being seen as weird and being excluded. Though, it's still hard not to feel sad when someone looks at you like you're crazy after showing something you deeply care about. But still, i don't censor myself nearly as much as I did in the past, and I'm only getting better at being myself, so I consider that a win.
that was a beautiful note to end on. i am a goth person, i love metal, rock, etc etc., so oftentimes i run into people who do have this very elitist mindset. my last ex was a great example of such. he told me multiple times that people who listen to "enter sandman" by metallica are "basic", or that people who only like "supermassive black hole" by muse are just "girls from tiktok". he even went as far to try and forcefully input his own elitism into my fixations. i'm neurodivergent, and have been fixated on bang dream for nearly 5 years now, which is a series centered around music and bands. he went as far to say that people who dont like roselia/afterglow (fictional bands in the series, centered around goth/rock music) are somehow less than i am because i tend to like those bands more. it gets very irritating, especially since i like things other than metal and rock too. i like pop music, idol music, even some country music (love you carrie underwood), because i am a person with broad and ever changing interests. some days, i am in a "2000s hot girl mood" and i play some good pop music, sometimes im in a "classic rock mood" and throw on some fleetwood mac. anyway, to cut a long point short, i kind of wish that this "i am different" mindset would fizzle out.
@Cincoat And then you have Metal Subcultures like, within metal. People specifically being into JUST Viking Metal but NOT Folk Metal or JUST Black Metal and everything else is untrue or whatever and just stick to that. I never managed to truly feel home in any specific subculture because those elitist make it feel no different from the "basic" people that wouldn't accept me back in school. Like mates I'm just trying to find a place to vibe not a different flavor of conformity. Got a cool circle of friends with overlapping (but still divergent) tastes these days.
All that aside, YOU LIKE BANG DREAM TOOO????? OH MY GOSH MY GOSH I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE DHEVEJDBSKS
Embracing the things that make you happy without shame is tough, but I highly recommend it. It was a LOT more fun to see My Chemical Romance two nights in a row this year than to pretend I don’t listen to them. (Seriously, it was an incredibly uplifting experience.) …still, I was definitely hesitant to share my Spotify wrapped given that it’s basically a roulette of top 80s new wave hits and 2009 Lady Gaga songs, and I’m not really sure what people would make of that, but there’s nothing really wrong with it, is there?
i agree 100% !!!
There is nothing wrong with that, just share what you like with confidence :) if people don't get why you like such stuff, just move on and stay away from them if they are being toxic about it.
I love gaga and MCR too! And there's no shame at all in that :)
Judging people for enjoying something harmless always confused me. It's a huge reason I abandoned the word cringe forever. The world already has so much to be bothered by. Best we allow ourselves and one another some happiness. We all deserve that.
People judging others based on the media they consume is so strange to me.
Consumption isn't the only way to express yourself. But you might think that's the case based on how some people talk.
It's pretty Dystopian.
What about hobbies, activism, relationships, a personal moral framework?
These things say so much more about a person than their music taste.
I grew up in west coast canada, and I've been a huge fan of mother mother for a decade or so - they were pretty big here in BC and a bit less in Canada, but still fairly well known. When they started getting more international attention among younger gen z queer people, I knew soo many people here bemoaning how "they listened to them before they went mainstream and became tiktok music" and started side eyeing me for saying they were my favourite band. Meanwhile I was the one laughing bc the new fanbase revived a lot of popularity towards their earlier style, leading to them releasing an album that was super true to their roots, and similar to my favourite album by them! When I went to a show on their most recent tour, it was amazing to see so many young queer and trans people finding connection with their music
I have LOVED Mother Mother since 2017 when my ex-best friend shared them with me. Their music has helped me so much an I genuinely very much enjoy it. In 2018, I made the mistake of sharing Bit by Bit with two girls who I thought were my friends. They litterally just went "Eww what is thaaat", laughed and went on to have a conversation, as I sit there with my confidence shattered. By the time of 2020 I thought I was pretty over that situation but when Mother Mother got popular on TikTok, those same girls started listening to Hayloft and Burning Pile and blasting it outside. They tore open the wound they had made and rubbed salt in it. I thought I was over it, but the rage and hurt it made me feel for awhile was awful. I know it's pretty pathetic but I'm still not quite over it. I'm 18 now, and still scared to share my most favourite things with anyone because of those two and some other bad experiences :(
@@BlackCatWithCap I'm so happy to hear that you love their music and it's so meaningful to you! Bit by Bit is one of my faves as well, alongside Problems. Yeah, I don't get where people get off on insulting someone's music tastes when it's such a personal thing - of course it would feel horrible to have the thing that you get a lot of meaning from be mocked, and it wouldn't make you want to share your music with others. Hopefully those girls mature and stop doing that to others, and recognize the irony of what they did and their current tastes now. I'm 25 and had people mock other music I liked similarly when I was a teenager, and I can say the hurt does get better with time. It becomes a lot easier to not let people's (bad) opinions affect your enjoyment and desire to share music - I went from feeling dread whenever anyone wanted me to play music or make a playlist at a party etc, to loudly and proudly blasting my music (latest was people questioning why ABBA was on a playlist and I was like "is it not a bop though" and they had to agree with me lol). Keep listening to Mother Mother and other music you love, and know that you're objectively way cooler of a person than anyone who judges others for music. Hopefully you get to see them in person bc they do a hell of a show
@@dreadwolfrising Thank you!! I don't really know how to reply well but your comments were very comforting to read! Happy Holidays♡
@@BlackCatWithCap happy holidays to you as well!
i was just soo confused by what happened. I didn't listen to spotify that much in 2022. the most confusing thing for me was probably that ppl were literally shy/embarrassed to share their spotify wrapped. Like when our teacher asked us, bc he is cool and we had a conversation about it during a lesson, he literally asked "if ure fine with sharing" and i mean okay, i understand, but he asked it like it's some trauma or something bad like what?
or maybe he's just asking if you want to share or not....?
@@aizichi yeah but generally it seems like something touchy to talk about just because of the judgement...
The funniest/best thing about Spotify wrap-ups is the revelation it gives you regarding your real interests. I mostly listen to a lot of alternative music (Brian Jonestown Massacre, Dope Lemon, etc.) but my top artists were Lana del Rey, Taylor Swift and Halsey. What can I say? Their last few albums were fire.
I had the exact same artists
Same situation but my top artists are like BTS and Blackpink and they're the most hated by some people because "Kpop is manufactured" thing. I still love it. I need something danceable and upbeat outside of serious deep philosophical vibes that i've gone through in my music experience, for giving it balance.
Also can we talk about how capitalism works into this. Brands try to convince us that they can help us become more cool/unique/beautiful/fashionable/on trend. The only thing businesses cannot monetize is our personalities, and that’s really the most important thing to keep unique. Being unique is not defined by the music we listen to, clothes we wear, stuff we own, what hobbies/skills we have, and how we do our makeup. Being unique is defined by how we express our innermost self-how we act, how we love, and treat others.
as someone who went from a ‘weird girl’ in middle school and then became a ‘preppy basic girl’ in high school…this is 100% correct
Similar story here. In 6th grade, I was such a “weird” kid. I liked video games, silly music, and I didn’t care what other people thought about me. In 8th grade (now), I’m a “basic” girl. I play lots of sports, I wear lululemon, I have a Stanley, I do my skincare, but I feel happier since I’m taking care of myself. You can’t win though. 2 years ago I was harassed for being different, now I’m attacked for being basic.
My top artist was Taylor Swift and the other in top 5 were K-pop groups (2.bts 3.twice) so I don't really care if people think I'm basic. I like what I like and there's nothing to be ashamed of
same, mine was taylor swift, twice and seventeen 😂
yooo, seventeen, twice and kard heheh
@@jaeesees YOOOO A KARD STAN!
My Spotify wrapped is full of kpop as well. I know that's beside the point but I feel like kpop is in this weird limbo where the gp is very aware of it yet doesn't listen to it.
there's no way bts can ever be considered 'basic' though... if anyone says that then there's a guarantee they don't know anything about bts music
I listened to a few hours of Willow and that somehow put me in the top 1% of listeners?! I love 3 of her songs, but I know ppl must listen to more of her than that 😂 I think they’re trolling us
Edit: maybe people listen to her on UA-cam. That’s probably why
No I think they 100% fabricate it tbh. A few years ago I barely used Spotify but listened to Blue Neighborhood once or twice and maybe an additioanl single a couple times and somehow was in Troye Sivan's top 5% of listeners?
I noticed that too I listened to a few BTS songs on Spotify and mostly listen to their songs on UA-cam because I don't have Spotify premium. Spotify wrapped told me I was in the top 7% of their Spotify listeners. I think BTS are 5th most streamed artist this year? It makes no sense 😂
I think it's more because even if you've listened to a song from a particular artist once, you count as one of their listeners. So imagine how many people played one of their songs just once in an entire year, it's not hard to be in the top percentiles by playing to their songs a couple times
@@riley3984 ok, I had that thought as well. We need an insider to spill already 😂😂😂
oh you guys have absolutely no idea - top 1% of listeners is kinda nothing, i forgot the math but it includes like thousands of people i think? i dont use spotify but i know ppl who were in the top 0.0001% of their favorite artist's listeners LOL
I’ll always love pop and idc what anyone says about it. I’ve cried, danced, laughed and created good memories from pop songs so it’ll always have a special place in my heart
As a millennial I used to get made fun of and called a hipster for having niche musical tastes. Some people got on my case for not recognizing certain very popular songs: "How can you not know (fill in the blank)?! Everyone knows this song!". "You listen to (x)? Nobody actually like that, they only pretend to be edgy."
It cuts both ways.
Yep. The mid-2000s was pretty mean to anyone who fit into the hipster box in any way. I participated in some of that hate while being really interested in twee fashion and several bands that absolutely got called hipster. Clearly I was projecting.
I don't know anything unless it's five years later and I heard it in a commercial and/or trailer.
"how can you not know .... " is one of my most hated phrases. im old as fuck and get mad when other people get on the case of younger people instead of just enthusiastically sharing with them. its a shitty introduction to the music or film in question that might taint the chances for someone to discover some new stuff
I'm upset that people just can't let people enjoy things, without labels and prejudices. It's like your worth is constantly being evaluated and your personality is an unpaid full time acting/smm job.
i'm not "basic" or "quirky", i'm just a person.. people are not fictional characters and cannot be strictly categorised by any label or an archetype
honestly! people can't seem to understand that other people are people and not objects to categorize.
@@greatwave2480 I love this. Yes! We are people! Everyone is different. That is LITERALLY something we learn in kindergarten… So weird how we never really grow out of this “Basic vs Quirky” shit
I find myself obsessing over not being basic a lot. Like whenever I listen to a new artist, I’m almost compulsed to make sure I listen to more than just their biggest hits. That’s how I ended up memorizing the lyrics of every P!ATD song, considering how heavily that band is carried by singles. Ofc what I should’ve realized as an angsty teenager is that no matter how much Panic I listened to, they will still always be reserved a spot on the hot topic t-shirt wall, so I would still be basic either way, so I should just stop trying so hard.
Been bullied alot for being too different im in therapy for it btw . Goes both ways. they be saying "your trying to be edgy and rebellious out of the norm youre trying too hard to go against society are you hiding under that mask of makeup and clothes because your insecure!? Clown. you have issues just admit it".... nope i just enjoy expressing my trueself why does that offend you😂 when my fashion sense got in style i stopped getting bullied for it i felt like i was in some confusing matrix blew me out of the water and taught me alot about peoples hypocrisy and wanting approval from society to blend in etc etc lots of lessons im thankful for
yeah same i am a kinda weird person but when everyone was raving abt bfs,makeup & pop music i was fixtated on tudors & waterbottles (weird I know) … i could Name every single detail about each monarch and I’d talk about it loads & I also dressed ‘emo’ and was just asking to be bullied but I couldn’t rlly help it , i couldn’t just change the way I’ve always been . i didn’t have a bf cause I wasn’t rlly interested & was asexual didn’t use makeup cause of the sensory issues it causes, if I’m honest im not like the other girls in my form and everyone around me knows it , teachers,councillors,therapists i know I’m not like the other girls and isn’t just cause i don’t like the same things as them 🤷♀️ it’s probably just cause im neurodivergent when their all allistic
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I listen to weird, kinda obscure music and whenever I played it the people around me hated it and changed it to something else. Then my friend showed me their Spotify wrapped this year and we found that we have similar interests so we shared artists. It was super cool and definitely a highlight of my musical experience. Not sure why anyone would want to be so UniqueTM that no one else likes their music
this is literally me too, except i've never met anyone that likes my music taste :( last year my sis bashed my favorite song and said it had "no melody" and "wasn't music," ever since then i hardly ever share my music w anyone. i wish i liked pop or rock so i could actually relate to people.
Dont be shy share your "weird" music taste
I used to be the girl who would judge the others girls for liking things as Twilight, Brazil Funk (Idk how this genre is known outside), Kpop, etc or for being fussy, enjoying typical girly things and don't play rigth dodgeball. I was kinda of that stupid trope "I'm not like the other girls", but I over it. Anyways, it is weird to notice that it was something bigger than just the desire of being different, it was prejudice, it was hate. And it turns ever weirder when I just wanted be different than the others girls for somehow subject machism, like, "you want me to like pink? Fine, I'll like blue" and it turns out just being more machism. This is so fucked up.
I totally was super elitist about my music and pop culture tastes in high school and early college. Funnily enough having a degree in classical music where the music department head/theory teacher who is literally a music theory genius from Princeton repeatedly shared how her one of her favorite songwriters is literally Rihanna. As it, she used Rihanna as an example in our music theory classes to of exclusively classical musicians. It was then that I realized I had to get over myself. My need to be elitist didn’t help me understand music theory better or make my voice better at all. It didn’t make anyone respect me more and in fact made everyone hate when I was in control of the aux…like…so embarrassing! And I can’t pretend like most of the music major parties I went to had the literal least danceable music in college because I swear everyone was busy trying to prove how unique their music tastes were. That attitude lingered a bit any time I felt the need to utter the word “normie” out loud, but I’m so over it. We only have this one life and people should be allowed to listen to whatever music they like. 6 years of having to analyze music for my degree and I discovered by the end of it that it doesn’t have to be that deep. We really be judging people over literal invisible waves that make noise. We gotta all gotta collectively calm down on judging people’s music taste. And from judging our own.
The Rihanna thing is a great example of “sometimes things get popular because they’re actually good”
I use to be "not like other girls" as an early teen, and it was a chore bc i wasn't naturally like that. I was considered weird and bullied for that, so at some point i turned around and decided to embrace it and found a way to feel good about being different, and i... It didn't really work, and i gave it up in a way, in part bc i found a group of friends where i was allowed to be weird and different without being rejected, so yknow. There's always something to be said about finding your place in the world.
Anyways, i was like that, i forced myself to be different and scoffed at what was mainstream and then maybe secretly, privately, enjoyed the bits of the stuff that i mocked, and eventually i realized i was no better than the ppl i was mocking if i had to chip away pieces of myself to be me. A complain i developed as i grew up is that ppl are ashamed of being weird and they pretend to do or like stuff, and i was Different™, i was one of The Few Ppl that were Honest, except i wasn't. If i wanted to listen to story of my life by one direction i did it in secret and if i got found out i looked for an excuse. So i stopped
Which also got me push back, in part bc of my own actions, bc you don't get tl spend years mocking something only to turn around and like it, that's not how it works, but also bc... If i admitted to liking what i too considered "basic" (although that's not a term that was part of the vocabulary of 2015 in my Spanish speaking country), i received mockery from others, and they didn't believe it, and once again i found myself looking for comfort in being different, and i can admit even nowadays i do that, and when i decided to stop chipping away from what i liked and cherry picking my interests to conform to the idea that i had constructed of who i was, i changed my understanding of Different™ to be more of what i was trying to become: not someone that actively goes against trends, but someone that enjoys whatever it is, *regardless* of trends and popularity, so if i happen to like the most popular movie in the world? Yeah, so what. And if i happen to like the weirdest, most fucked up little gremlin of a singer in the world? Yeah, that too, what about it, and it helped me stop feeling morally superior to those that were "basic" to my eyes, bc now i allowed myself to reach a common point with them in my honest interests
It took me some more years to realize that everyone is like that, actually, that everyone wants to feel unique and usually thinks they are unique, and depending of how you see it, that's really the case, but also, it's not the end of the world if I'm like everyone else. If I'm part of the 70% of ppl that look up bc everyone else is looking up, if i like the song that everyone else likes bc it was made to be popular by design. It's... Fine
Nowadays i do mock a certain sort of basic-ness, but usually with the irony of mocking exactly what I'm doing. My most listened to song was an extremely basic one from fucking tiktok, and that's funny, i find that funny, I'd mock someone else for that and I'm willing to mock myself fornit as well, because i listen to a lot of things, but the one i listened to the most was that one, and I'm not even surprised, and I'll listen to it again
I do have a problem with getting in on the popular thing as it explodes, but that's more of a self aware "i want to be different" thing that i also mock bc "wow, you (i) want to be different so hard 🙄", but also because I at a point of honest exhaustion with many industries (music, tv, movies, etc) where i honestly just don't trust what's popular and i don't want to contribute to stuff like Netflix having ppl binge watch a series or face cancelation, or everyone going over how amazing this movie is and you have to see it RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE SPOILERS and then I'll just... Wait. I'll watch it, maybe, if I'm interested in the concept, but i refuse to play into the viral aspect of media consumption, not bc of my issues with being basic, but for my issues with capitalism lmao, but i do know my mockery of playing into the hype of capitalism does overlap with my mockery (sometimes self directed, sometimes truthful) of what i consider to be basic
Jesus Christ. You could've expressed all of this in like two paragraphs.
I feel like the email stating that the "Basic/Plastic" concept largely stems from growing up in a culture that is so heavily rooted in individualism was an excellent point. I notice that "being unique" often has to do with fast trends. So much has changed in the past decade alone because our survival (in the States anyhow) relies on making money, and if you aren't keeping up with trends and making whatever you sell stand out in some way, then you're not selling. Our survival is treated as individual endeavors; you can come out on top by being different from the crowd. It feels so competitive. The need to be "unique" is pushed on us at such a young age.
I think it's important for people to understand that it's okay to be human, and that being apart of a community, being open to other people will not diminish your importance as a human being. As matter of fact, other people will make you stronger. But it can be really hard to find such communities; that's where (ironically) underground subcultures come into play. Underground subcultures are typically comprised of individuals who understand the importance of taking care of each other. Nowadays, however, these subcultures have been mostly taken over by people who want to be different from mainstream culture, yet don't look out for others and are very self-centered, or individualistic, and they cause more harm by pushing out people who have already been outcasted by most of society. So, it's become harder to find folks who are genuinely compassionate, and passionate about the movements because it seems that EVERYTHING has become a trend to monetize.
It'd be nice for us to stop focusing on consuming trends, and as Shan put it, simply exist.
bro taylor swift if so perfectly rated. idk why she's hated on so much, of course not all her songs are perfect but her song writing is so good whether you focus on lyrics, melody, rhythm or the over vibe. I understand how people can not like her music because it's not their taste but her songs are not badly written/sung AT ALL
I got in the top 6% of listeners for stray kids this year, and even tho its not a popular band at my school, my classmates still flamed me when i posted it. on the other hand, my friend, who got top 0.05% of taylor listeners, also got made fun of for being basic and at this point it just doesn't make sense. do you want us to be diffrent or no?
Yo stray kids was in my top 5 too! It's good music and people bullying you for that is cringe and reflects poorly on them
loves skz so much phobia is one of my all time favorite songs
You got taste my friend
also then people fighting over "who listened more to artist xy" and when you're "only" in their like 6%, the other stans ask you "are you even a real fan? im in their 0.01%..." or they just make weird remarks
stray kids is definitely popular
I totally agree! I am raised in the suburbs, love Taylor Swift and Carly Rae Jepson. I don’t care if it makes me basic, because it makes me happy! Basic girl pride!❤❤
We were in French class once doing a culture unit, and we had to write about our favorite celebrity. My friend leaned over and asked me to name a singer, so I said my favorite: Ariana Grande. She was like "yeahh but that's too basic."
Girl. It's a french project. And you had to ask me for a singer anyway!
Well, at least you weren’t a guy like I am. If I was asked that same question in front of a male friend, I’d be scared that they’d make fun of me even more, and, at worst, start lecturing me on why they think she’s so “horrible”.
@@prettierjesus3119 Omg yea! Guys at my school also like to rag on other people's interests, and for what? Also notice on male singers like Drake aren't ever called "basic". It's like anything associated with a teenage girl is somehow basic.
Next time say Serge Gainsbourg to troll her. I don't think she even know about him anyway 😂
@@LoXena I'll just make up a name lmao if she doesn't know it she'll use it.
there was literally a whole article about how the anxiety of spotify wrapped each year affects people's mental health. we hate other people informing us about our listening habits throughout the year, especially if it was a bad year for you in terms of mental health. and yeah, people can be really judgemental about your top artists (ngl I do giggle at some people's I'm sorry) people hate being told that they're basic or like being told by others that they're interesting.
I don't leave comments very often, but this topic always fascinated me. When I was younger, I didn't really listen to music. My main source of it was the morning country music channel on Sundays and edgy rock AMVs every now and then. It wasn't until 2020 that I began doing so again, so my instinct is to assume all music I find out about is mainstream or well known about, which makes it a surprise when I come across people who tell me my taste is "unique." Like nah man, I'm pretty sure a lot of people have heard of Breaking Benjamin before, you're not fooling my ass.
I think in this sort of basic bitch fingerpointing, a lot of people often forget that subcultures exist. Some people flex listening Mitski as if she's this super obscure indie woman, but on the side of the internet I'm on, it seems like everyone and their grandmother have been listening to her for ages. Mother Mother has been around for years (I remember seeing a lyric video for "Oh Ana" back in 2018), and it's only now I see people complaining about kids always putting it on their fandom playlists as if fandom babes weren't already making full animation projects to their songs for a while. Whatever's considered basic can be extreme obscure to another group of people by the mere existence of the fact that these smaller communities have their own set of standards and stereotypes. The alt community in particular is famous for crapping on newer alt kids or budding alt subcultures because of the hypervigilance around posers. The term Mall Goths, for example, was coined as a sort of "basic bitch" label as it was meant to deride kids who dress in alternative fashion because it looked cool and just "didn't understand the culture, man." The joke was that they spent all their time in mall shops like Hot Topic, and now it's considered an actual alternative subculture. Absolutely bonkers.
this will probably make me sound as pretentious as those people, but i can’t stand that uquiz users/makers automatically assume that people who don’t listen to mitski, lana del ray, and deftones are “basic” because
1) categorizing people who don’t have a very specific taste in music as “basic” defeats the purpose of being anti-basic. (plus those artists are already very popular)
2) those people seem to forget that versatility exists. i listen to bands that range from 19M mostly listeners on spotify to about 100. listening to weezer and radiohead doesn’t automatically make me basic/a poser, and listening to bands with my similar following to the soundcloud rappers in my area doesn’t make me superior to anyone.
@@silliestbillyXD You don't sound pretentious at all. In fact, I'd say the word pretentious is often overused in place of a far better term, but that's neither here nor there. You actually do a really solid job at proving my point: Lana Del Rey, in the circles where I run, is the biggest "basic white girl signifier." Summertime Sadness was one of the biggest songs when I was in middle school, so it's fascinating to hear you say that people act like she's some underground artist. And as a metal fan myself, Deftones is also "experimental metal 101" to a lot of folks in the community, so saying you listen to Deftones is like "dude, me too, tf?"
A lot of these people likely feel like outcasts in real life and sort of revel in the romanticism of the refined art connoisseur on the outbreaks of the world to cope with the true loneliness of that reality. So when they get the chance, they enjoy being the gatekeepers rather the ones turned away from the gate to begin with. Shame that so many (including myself, I have to admit I do it too) approach art and our expression of love for it as some status symbol to lord over others, but that's really not something new. Also I've been out of the loop; when did Radiohead become basic lol? Tbh, I'd lowkey take being called basic that people telling me I listen to "male manipulator music" any day, so that's kind of good.
I made a list that relates to this subject:
Likes/dislikes the thing (Normal)
Dislikes the thing because others like the thing (Contrarian)
Dislikes the popular thing because it is popular (Not like other girls/boys) (Hipster)
Likes the thing because others dislike the thing (Edgy Contrarian)
Likes the thing ironically (Ironic)
Likes the thing ironically for so long that it doubles back and becomes unironic (Double Ironic)
Knows that liking the thing ironically will make them truly like the thing, so skips the irony and just likes the thing (Meta Ironic)
Likes the thing before others liked the thing and boasts about it (Hipster)
Disliked the thing, but only likes the thing now because other people started to like the thing (Bandwagoner)
Likes the popular thing ("Basic") (Normal/Trendy)
Didn't like the thing, but now likes the thing because tastes change (Normal)
Likes the thing and takes it upon self to deem if others truly like the thing and can be in the liking thing community based on standards made up in their head (Gatekeeper)
Genuinely likes the thing, and doesn't care if others dislike the thing because they understand everyone has their own taste/preferences. (Normal)
Genuinely dislikes the thing, and doesn't understand why others like the thing but doesn't boast about it. (Normal)
Does not necessarily like or dislike the thing (Normal)
Likes the thing obsessively (Fanatic) (Stan)
Dislikes the thing obsessively (Cynic)
Likes the thing and thinks they're better than others because of it. (Elitist)
Likes the thing and thinks they're smarter than others because of it. (Intellectual™)
At the end of the day just like what you like and be kind. Its okay to like or not like things, just be kind towards the difference in others.
@Cincoat Exactly! So sick of the whole “Oh what you like X movie? You have terrible tastes!” Instead of idk having an opinion about instead of personally insulting someone for their opinion. People need to use their words better instead of acting so high and mighty. Saying something like “Personally I did not enjoy it” instead of “AnYone Who ThInks THiS X Is GOod Is Too YoUng To UnderStand rEal Art11!” Which is just so snobby and contributes to nothing but an elitist complex.
Everything "basic" is what women often like. It's called basic because of mysogyny. And of course hating on Talor Swift is already a cliche. She is very talented but because she's a woman, listening to her is "bad taste" 🤦♀️
That is not true. You'll get even more hate for listening to someone like Drake or Post Malone. They are male artists.
It's just some people who think they are better because they listen to more obscure artists which is pathetic asf
Ah Taylor Swift. "Basic" if you like her music, "woman hating" (or whatever insult swifties design to call you) if you just don't like/connect with it (even if you're a woman?!?)
No one wins here 😭
Not everything is misogyny..
Exactly. Idgaf what anybody says Lavender Haze is gonna be in my 2023 wrapped cuz I’m gonna play it till I die 😂
@@joebidenjr5902 it’s not about the gender of the artist, but the gender of the listener. Drake is super popular with women too, but someone like Kanye, who is more popular with men, probably won’t be called basic. Things men like are more likely to be called “classic”.
the character development i experienced when i went from being NLOG to just liking whatever and not giving a shit what other ppl liked when it came to music whewww like now i proudly post that i was in the top 0.5% of BTS listeners on my spotify wrapped bc i feel like music is such an intrinsic part of a lot of ppls identity so there's nothing for me to be ashamed of. like knowing that ppl will see me as basic and "liking the mainstream" actually has a greater importance to me bc i feel more proud that artists from the global East are getting enough recognition to even BE CONSIDERED mainstream. ok anyways that's not the point of the video but as always, another day another slayyy!! i love ur videos sm they verbalise a lot of feelings and thoughts i wouldn't be able to verbalise myself
It's a very strange and lonely experience not being part of social media. There is so much that occurs on there, so many discussions that I don't even realize are happening. I don't compare myself to people because I have very few people I interact with but I don't have many social connections either.
People need to top taking this stuff so seriously. There’s more to life than this 🙄
I don't have any social media accs save for a Pinterest acc (if that even counts) and I'm pretty happy about it. It's peaceful because i literally do not know what's happening so i can't be mad or sad about it. Ignorance is bliss.
hyperconnection was supposed to be a good thing, but they managed to only show humanity's worst traits
Disconnecting myself from social media actually made me enjoy my interests much more. Im not constantly liking something just for others. i just like things.
Don't worry, you're def not missing anything. There's a reason why so many people have to go through social media "detoxes" to feel somewhat sane again.
Look, one of my most listed to songs this year was the nightcore version of "Whatever it takes". I do listen to a lot of indie bands that not so many people have heard off, but at the same time I love Kpop and there is something massively comforting in the knowledge that I have a interest that is shared by millions of people around the world. I have very much adopted a liking to the phrase "Don't yuck other people's yummh" and I think this is the best way to approach taste as long as it is ethical.
I thought “nightcore version of whatever it takes” meant an edgy version of the degrassi theme song and immediately looked it up bc that sounds INCREDIBLE… but that was nice too i guess
i used to listen to that a lot too lol
@@violetking4822 Sorry to disappoint XD