What I Learned After Coaching 3000 Top Students
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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=== Timestamps ===
00:00 Do you know your Learner type?
02:36 Learner type vs Learning styles
04:00 5 Core dimensions of Learning
05:08 Core dimension #1: Deep processing
09:22 Core dimension #2: Self-regulation
11:24 Core dimension #3: Mindset
13:45 Most common Learner type: Unchained
14:38 2nd most common Learner type: Sprout
15:02 3rd most common Learner type: Trooper
16:25 4th common Learner type: Karps
17:18 How can you figure out your learning type?
=== About Dr Justin Sung ===
Dr. Justin Sung is a world-renowned expert in self-regulated learning, certified teacher, research author, and former medical doctor. He has guest lectured on learning skills at Monash University for Master’s and PhD students in Education and Medicine. Over the past decade, he has empowered tens of thousands of learners worldwide to dramatically improve their academic performance, learning efficiency, and motivation.
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Where is the quiz? I don't see it when I press on that link.
@JustingSung, Is the link still working? I am a working professional and would like to explore more techniques.
1. Deep processing: ability to think critically, connect ideas and understand complex concepts
2. Self regulation: mastery and adaptation of learning techniques and self-awareness of using the right strategy for the right task
3. Mindset: attitude toward failure and experimentation
How I think about it:
Raw Brain Power
Technique
Your Psychology
Does anyone want me to go into the problem with learning styles in more depth? Or is that topic already pretty well covered by this point? (Also let me know if there's anything form this video you want me to dive into more)
Would love if you could do a more detailed breakdown on it with some more examples!
Yes please!
I feel like it has been done to death. Lack of evidence + Straight up disproven.
Yeah sure and we would be happy to dive more deeper about the mindset and how we can get better at our mindset
No. Leave it alone. "Learning styles" is a granfalloon, a false category, a phony concern that keeps half-wits busy in the halls of academe. Those who can teach teach; those who can't get Ed.D.s and write theses about learning styles, teaching styles, and other irrelevant nonsense.
- Learner types are about assessing your habits and processes as a learner.
They are based on 5 key dimensions:
- *deep processing*
- *self-regulation*
- *mindset*
- *self-management*
- *retrieval practice*
- Deep processing is your raw cognitive power and ability to think critically. It can be improved through training habits. If you have low deep processing, ineffective study techniques may not work as well for you.
- Self-regulation is your ability to monitor and adapt your learning methods. High self-regulation can compensate for lower deep processing.
- Mindset is about your resilience and response to mistakes. A fixed mindset limits improvement, while a growth mindset enables it. Mindset can be the most limiting factor.
- Common learner types:
- *Unchained* (fixed mindset)
- *Sprout* (growth mindset but low processing/self-regulation)
- *Trooper* (high self-regulation but low processing)
- *Carp* (high processing but low self-regulation).
- Knowing your learner type helps you focus your efforts on improving the dimensions that will make the biggest impact for you. A free diagnostic quiz is linked in the video description.
Thank you
Wooww...you're so cool bro. Tq for this, needmuch
The quiz has now been updated and the bug which gave more people "Other" has been fixed! The "other" category is something that should have only occurred around 3% of the time based on our sample data set. But due to a probably bug in the quiz logic, it was being given out 10x more frequently! I've just tested it with an additional set of cases and it seems to be functioning as normal. If you received "Other" before, please do the quiz again!
I really really admire what you are doing
Why don't you write a book that you explain the full picture inside of your head about learning
I still got “other” but it’s entirely possible I am just a weirdo!
The page didn't load for me at all.
Why's that? What do I do?
I just did the test and it gave me other... I gave my email for nothing 😶
I still appreciate the video, though.
You're changing and saving lives. Thank you for still uploading and sharing what you have synthesized for the rest of us.
The fact that comments like these are under the video makes me reconsider my initial opinion that the average learner is not constrained by any of these.
Thanks so much for sharing this! Can’t wait to join your program! Just waiting for the next window to open up!
Thank you Justing for all your videos. You helped me to change my entire perspective of learning and realizing that there is so much more and I can go further and further.
I appreciate the content you bring to this channel! Immensely valuable!
I love what you've done with editing🎉
I like how Justin is always talking about seeing the big picture and being mindful of the context for information that we consume and only now is he giving us all the parts that form a comprehensive big picture for cognition and systematic learning. Not complaining, the guy is already putting out so much valuable content for free, just pointing out the irony
Hi Justin, thank you for your videos - I found them a few days ago and leave more knowledgeable and excited each time.
I was a PA student and recently withdrew because of poor performance. I believe I am a “sprout”. Not the outcome I wanted, but your channel is helping see where and how to strengthen my learning. My biggest pitfalls were studying voluminous content and recall.
Thank you again!
From Togo! You're videos help me learn English and how to learn!
Thoughts while watching:
- There is more than 1 theory of learning styles - it would be good to be clear what theory you are referring to.
- Styles aren't really explained when looking at behaviours or cognition.
- Types - takes to long to explain - why assume we don't want to watch long videos?
- Building habits from neuroplasticity seems redundant
- How do you measure deep processing? If people can't self measure how would they know what to do or not to do.
- Weight lifting analogy seems inaccurate - technique can beat strength (far too much nuance over looked for me)
- Using different tools seems like someone anyone can rather than a 'type'
- Fixed and Growth mindset (assumed Carol Dwecks work) seems inconsistent here - fixed mindset sticks which what they do so why would they go looking for new/better technique?
- Avoiding failure can be people in growth mindset
- Types seem like level of expertise, making them very dynamic. How can that be used? tracked/measured/made aware off
FYI - I am an "Other" type according the quiz...
A fellow "Other" here so I feel you a lot...
I think a more apt analogy (coming from a biased CS standpoint) is that high Deep Processing is analogous to having strong raw processing power (for instance, a i9 cpu), and having bad technique is like running inefficient software. If the software is written badly (ref. Starfield), even a very strong setup will still stutter and fail (but with enough power it can be compensated), whereas highly optimized programs will run smoothly even on ancient CPUs.
I personally feel like I match closest with the Karp category, not because I have difficulty with adapting to new learning methods, just that I have difficulty switching to a different style simply because I don't have to. If and when presented with a different way to learn, I still adapt to it pretty effectively, which is probably why the quiz didn't consider me as "bad at self-regulating."
Also, to continue the CPU analogy, I feel like I'm more like a heavily overclocked cpu with very bad cooling, so I can learn a lot and adapt very fast, at the cost of feeling burnt out and generally having very few "actually effective" hours in a given week. This "motivation" or "endurance" metric seems to be missing, at least in the three dimensions presented here.
Great questions!
I have an i8 but it only works sometimes, ;(
Thanks. You've asked some very thoughtful and interesting questions. I agree that being clear about referencing what and which theory he is using would be useful. I also wondered whether a "too long" video is as much about protecting the content of the 'ICanStudy' school which of course is a business. Shorter videos of 10-15 minutes seem to be the most popular length on YT. Making short video that summarise key points can be made as 'tasters' and promotional tools to convert people to purchase the more detailed assistance. That's fair enough - videos take a lot of time and effort to make. I kinda believe that he also does have a more altruistic reason for uploading videos. I have returned to study after a fairly long time and I can learn quite a lot of basic information about learning that I think will be really useful and hopefully save me a lot of time and effort. I'm interested in what you mean by your point "Building habits from neuroplasticity seems redundant". I know you wrote this months ago but if you see this and have a minute I'm interested in your opinion - no probs if it'd take too long to explain though :)
Thank you Justin, this is what I want to take notes, you know what I am thinking, thank you for your video
Wow you don't know how happy I am to find your channel. I am going back to school after 18 years, and I was freaking out. appreciate your videos. cool you are in Auckland, I'm in Tauranga. Being a dad of 4, going back to school, trying to get a degree after never even finishing college, faaar bro, your help is invaluable.
You got this!
Guilty spark here. Smart, have good learning methods, AND a good mindset, I just suck at doing things early enough to learn everything I need to; even if I learn insanely fast, I'll always have to sacrifice one or two sections I need to learn because I genuinely don't have enough time left to go over them, without losing what I've already learnt😭😭
Just wanna share a few thoughts about you, Dr. Sung :Đ
I've accidentally "jumped" into 1 or 2 of you videos when I started learn in university, and your context have helped me a lot with my learning journey.
I remembered like 2 years ago (?) People are really go crazy about space repetition and active recall, flash cards, etc... but with a law student like me, those methods take too much time and energy while the results are not too good. But after accidentally found your videos, I could learn in a really relaxing ways while still being able to enjoy myself and doing other stuffs.
I just wanna say thank you, thank you very much for your help.
Keep doing what you are doing
This seems so promising ❤
Thanks!
i love you content justin! thank u so much!
My pleasure!
hello Justin. I am a new commer in your group. I was thinking about my life, my future whether I can do something btter in my life or not and I stumbled upon your video in seach of guidence. this video really helped me boost my confidence and also to give myself time to think about the methods and techniques and also my mediocare routine as a high school teen. Your survey said I am unchained which at first I was curious that how on earth I am like this but after a retest, I admit it. just waiting for the pdf and looking forward to grow now. Thanks for your help and your motivation (well this video isn't meant to be a motivational stuff rather it is a guide and informational one but who knows).
This is a life changing video full of knowledge. Hopefully I can apply and grow more about it. New subscriber here.
Nobody gonna talk about how smooth that pen flicking was of Justin 🔥 6:44
This is an absolutely unique but the most interesting video. I’m a high achiever , doctor, with 2 residencies in uk/ USA. My partner an Ivy League multiple degree . I am an MENSAN and he is in intertel , the way he studies and remembers dosent work for me , I’m slow methodical and require time , he studies at the speed so high. I want young people to watch this video with their parents slowly and understand eveyword Justin talks about , becaus3 no learning coach is going to be this explosive in analysis by living in the head of a student
Please do an in-depth video on the conceptual framework of learning/dimensions of learning
Karp 🙋 starting uni next autumn and I've decided it's time to learn how to learn instead of just relying on raw talent to get me through this
You really know your stuff. respect to you.
Man this is so insightful
Glad it was, a lot of effort went into this video haha
thank you!
Thank you so much! That was helpful to understand better my struggles the results were that I am the Unchained type
Glad it could help, and give you direction on how you improve your learning skills!
Ill definitely be using that course
subscribed to your channel, god bless you for helping millions out there . i am 32 now but i always had problem in learning. i hope your videos will help me
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO OMG
Also do a video on the last two dimensions! Great video
Im amaze with you're knowledge about how learning works, how can you know so much about those?
commenting rn to positively influence your fate and quality of life, doctor! Keep up the good work and make sure to rest well.
Please do learning styles. This video was so helpful for me. Thank you
Sure thing! Have added that to the list of videos to make
Wow it is each an eye opener
We appreciate your videos
😊 thank you
Awesome thanks so so much man.........
Tysm for this
Great video. I want to hear about Self management and Retrieval Practice too.
Notes those ideas to make videos on in the future.
In the mean time, here is a video that covers the topic of interleaving: ua-cam.com/video/ZFyPMRzPNTE/v-deo.html
I truly needed a video like this
Lots of people did haha
@@JustinSung Wo-hoo! Thank you for answering me and for the heart :)
Thank you Justin for all your videos :)
No worries!
Thank you so much 🥰🥰🥰🥰
No worries
Hello Dr.Justin sung,
im truly impressed by the depth of insight provided in this video ,Your expertise in this area is truly valuable, and I believe that it would be incredibly beneficial for many individuals if you were to consider authoring a book or a series of books on these subjects.
Your ability to communicate complex ideas in a clear and engaging manner makes your insights extremely accessible and valuable to a wide audience. I imagine that a book from you could serve as an invaluable resource for anyone looking to enhance their learning and cognitive processes.
I eagerly anticipate the possibility of reading your work and gaining deeper understanding from your expertise.
Best regards
Your student 🤘
12:30, Damn! Stop calling me out Dr. Sung!
The diagram that you showed at 12:58 really sums up my life lol. Consuming content, but not doing anything about it. Thankfully I have been getting better in these past days.
I want those last two dimensions, so here’s me best guess.
Retrieval practice is your strategy to memorize things.
Self management is how efficient and disciplined we implement learning into a schedule.
Can you please make a video on how we can train and develop our deep processing habits?
thanks a lot for this video. Very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Also had a great day
I'm a last year medical student and i have recently seen your videos and i already LOVE them. I've always loved these topics that you cover and honestly you are doing my dream job. I just wanted to let you know how inspiring you are and i hope you get better and better everyday😍😍
Great work
I really appreciate what he is doing.
Thank you, I appreciate your comment
It is so helpful for me
thank you justin!!!
No worries, thanks for the comment
First.
second😁
Third
I'm late 😢
NOt first
He's having a sense of humor too😂
Thank you, Justin and the team, for the great video! I took the free test and got "other" so I started thinking would it be possible to share the full test for a fee, separate from the rest of the course?
He commented on this video (probably right after your comment) that the quiz had a bug making Other 10X more frequent, so try taking it again.
@@TheQuark6789 oh, thanks for letting me know!
Love this
I love your videos all of them actually so thank you ,but please don’t use loud music and a lot of different sounds for editing it’s so distracting.
I hit the like button and even better I subscribed to your channel.
I almost never comment in all my life of youtube, but please make more videos like this, it really helps alot
Thanks for the comment, and I will do my best to continue making more videos like this!
@@JustinSung If you could make a video describing the structure of learning for students with higher order learning, you have already told us alot about priming and then making mindmaps, and past papers (which I have been using for a few days and it is amazing ) but if you could tell us when and how to do the retrieval practices and in what time intervals it would be a complete package
Thank you!
형님 영어 정말 잘 하시네요!!!
Great tips
Thank you
No thank you for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video
Great sir 👍
Please make a video on Learning Styles please
So the quiz was why the video was late. Good work as always! A bit disappointed to get the other result though, I want to have a label :v
Algo give this man a raise
Thank you so much❤🎉
You’re welcome 😊
That was amazing
try the quiz twice, both times the result was Unchained. i wish i knew effective methods at all so i can learn all the things i want. I think im trap in the circle of wanting to improve and not nowing effective ways to learn in a consistens manner o learning at all
same bro.
It wasn’t until I got to college that I had to learn how to study. I felt deflated in the beginning of college because before college, I was able to grasp materials while in class without opening my texbooks.
I would like to see a video about learning styles, please
I think I have the first of the three, and none of the others. Terrible at self regulating, and will mentally shut down if I ever fail. BUT am a really deep learner, comparing what I'm learning to past knowledge as a default.
I logically know what a growth mindset is, but struggle to walk the walk. Though I can talk and teach it all day. I have this weird trauma response where I can explain things I don't understand, even to the point that it helps others get new insights, and this may be part of the problem too.
I like how you use research! Where do you get your research articles? I’m interested in reading then
I accidently learnt to do deep processing in high school. I can confirm that studying is easy for me. Even if I write down linear notes, I still have a map of the theme in my head and do better in tests then other studients. Of course, if I use better methods, I get even better results.
Do better.
i used to think I'm a excellent student in my class in my hometown school, but after I went to Yonsei Uni in S.Korea, I have realized that I'm a normal person.
good video thx.
Glad it helped
Thank u so much for offering free tools from ur paid program. Even a small sample is better then no knowledge at all.
No worries, the team and I are constatly working our hardest to provide higher and higher quality value and education for free!!
6:44 Slickest pen twirl I've seen in my entire life 👀
I can't be the only one replaying it over and over... right?
Hello Dr.Sung, please add this video at the start of the playlist you showed at the end…
Thank you Dr Sung for adding it to the playlist…😌
thxs
Please provide the info for Sparks
AMAZING video, I am deeply grateful:)))
this is awesome
You are awesome
You deserve more than like 🖤
Yes I deserve 2 likes hehe
so i gave him 2 likes.
commenting for algorithm to make this chanell more popular
Dear algorithm, this channel is awesome. That is all.
You rock!
Really lucky about reading mindset by carol dweck before meeting you. There are lots of bumps along the way but hey, i persist
I have so many questions. I did your quiz, answered it as honestly as possible. I’ve always had top academic results, why should I believe the diagnostic tool you have devised? What is this category “Deep Processing”? What is it based on? Where can I find the evidence? Or is it just a marketing funnel? I’m fascinated by your presentations, but I’m not so sure about your product.
Why, earlier in the presentation, did you instruct us to ‘think of a genius” Yeah, Einstein, but more so his first wife, Stephen Hawking (none of his wives), and my Mum. “T
hink of a genius” the power of suggestion is so strong. Framing puts you in the picture if you can see yourself in it. So our student wants desperately to work smarter, achieve better, and there is the 🥕. can they ever get the carrot? I hope so for his/her sake.
What’s your opinion on active learning? Like Quizlet, etc.
Great video. Though I've to ask, what does the dimension of "self-management" entail? My first thought was your idea of learning enablers, but you said most people aren't lacking in it, so now I am not sure. And separately mindset is already a part of the enabler skills.
I would think self-regulation is about how you reflect on your learning skills/abilities, how you learn to learn, evaluate your learning progress and habits continuously.
If it was a fitness program instead of a learning program it would be like how do you know you are following the program you set out to do, how do you evaluate how well the program works, how do you keep track of your nutrition, exercise statistics, how do you measure progress, set goals, stick to goals, how well can you sustain your motivation when things get tough.
I took the free quiz and it showed that I am in the other category
I got the other too.
In the video he says is more of a spectrum than a black and white thing
Now I think I understand why I struggle with your videos. The real learning is in your paid courses.
Deep processing is underrated yet yields better overall results/performance especially in the academic field. But, if I may ask. How do you do "deep processing"? If one can improve one's deep processing ability, how can we measure it? Can we even measure it?
I have the same question, how do we measure deep processing?
A lot on deep processing can be found on the channel, as mentioned in the vid :)
What do you mean by Self Management?
Do you use it in a casual way or it has different meaning? How could someone assess he is good at self management or not and the ways to improve it ?
How have I never found you before?!! 🤦🏾♀️ and how did I finally find you?? Notion 🤦🏾♀️😂 well, we’re here now 🥰
Personally I've never met anyone (med school) who doesn't study but still passes...
Great video as always sir... thank you so much
Hey Dr. Justin, are you going to be releasing those I can study t shirts? I really like them
If there is enough demand than we can look into it haha
deep processing seems very fixed in this video even though it was mentioned you can change it because of neuroplasticity. im dying to know more about since I didnt really grasp this too well in the video.
Bro please do another video on mindmaping