Making Picture Frames with a Sliding Mitre Saw - A woodworkweb.com woodworking video
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2012
- How to make a picture frames with a sliding mitre or chop saw is easy when you know the secrets of frame making and understand how to set up the saw to make perfect cuts.
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Contrary to the critics in the comments, as a total novice i find your videos to be perfect. I need things to be explained methodically and with a rationale, and you do this perfectly.
Me too. I am a total novice and I like to see things step by step and explained so I understand what it is I should be doing. I appreciate it when someone takes the time to do this. Thank You for that!
Same here! This was clear and understandable. It's intimidating being a novice, and I feel much more confident now! Thank you!
Same here, I love how you take the time to show us each step. You are one of my favorites!!
I have several miter saws, both compound sliding and conventional. I have made sacrificial fences for all of them. The keys to frame making are accuracy and consistency. Having a sacrificial fence is a way to achieve both. Being able to visually reference the kerf cut from the blade on the surface of the fence allows you to know exactly where the blade will enter the work piece. Along with either a movable stop block or pencil markings on the fence, you can control the cuts to have both precision and repeatability, the hallmarks of quality frame making. Ten minutes of making that fence will save you hours of frustration. Colin is spot on with this.
At 63 yrs old, I’ve probably watched 500+ woodworking videos on UA-cam. This is the first one I’ve ever been compelled to make a comment. What you have presented will enable me to perfect a technique that will open up many different projects to complete. Thank you so, so much. I simply love your channel. Have a Merry 2019 Christmas!
Colin, I love your teaching. I am a 73 yo woman just getting back into woodworking and have discovered your videos. Very helpful, thank you.
50 and just learning.
Colin doesn't waste any time and plans what he's going to present. Some people don't realize that making something like this frame actually takes a few minutes longer than this but Colin smoothly edits out the repetitious parts. He strikes a great balance and gets the job done and shows the viewer how to get the job done with no bull.
I want to sincerely thank you for taking the time to make this video. no one has explained why the joins can be off and now after watching your video and building a similar jig im making perfect picture frames . I cant thank you enough
I spent all day creating frame pieces yesterday without a stop. Last night I said I’d never do it again. Thank you for this video! Now I can’t wait to do it again! Really enjoy your work!
Hi Everett, Great to have you with us. Both the table saw or router work fine for 1/4" rabbet, although the router version is often a bit cleaner. The main difference is that the table saw works best if the project has not been assembled so you are working with long straight pieces of wood. If the project has been assembled and you have corners, the router can be a better choice.
Thanks for commenting and for the good question
Colin
You remind me of shop class back in high school, my wood working teacher was amazing and shared the same safety protocols as you. Love your video's, very comfortable and warm approach to teaching, well done and thank you for taking the tie to make these videos, thumbs UP!
Chris
As an artist and a woodworker, I make a spacer to lift the pieces off the fence, so that when the 45 is butted against the stop block, it is true to your measurement every time. This avoids the possibility of the sharp angle wedging into the crack between the fence and the stop block, possibly making your measurement short. The spacer just has to run the distance between your blade and stop short of the spacer block. It could be as simple as a 1/4 inch strip of plywood cut to length. I have made spacers to fit standard sizes of frames. This way you can be accurate and faster in producing standards. Anything in between will be covered by the standard bridges, because the spacers does not have to run the entire distance.
Hey Mich, thanks for taking the time to comment and for giving more detail. I read all of these and appreciate it when people can give some details of what they like.
Great to have you with us
Colin
Hey guys ... thanks for comments, it's very much appreciated when others know the work and time that goes into many of these vids.
Many Thanks !!
Colin
Yeah I know, same with me, I still prefer the table saw but so many people asked about doing it with sliders, we felt we needed to address their questions. I only wish I had one of those frame shop guillotines, that's real frame making. Thanks for taking the time to comment ... great to have with us
Colin
Between the corners and getting the two opposing sides equal lenght, that's really the secret ... good luck with your frames and thanks for commenting
Colin
I've recently bought a sliding mitre saw and this video has helped so much in getting a frame to fit accurately thank you very much for taking the time to put this together another excellent tutorial.Paul
Hi Keith, that's one of the great things about woodworking, often many different ways to do things.
I agree with you about the table saw, I also find it works best for me for these kinds of projects.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, nice to hear what others are doing :)
Colin
This video appear to be made at least 5 years ago. Even so, it is still current in 2018. Over the years I have had need to make an occasional picture frame. Never could get it right. Close but not close enough. Your video was most helpful. Like many of the commenters, I made just about every mistake you covered. By reference I am echoing all those that comments on how helpful the video is. The few detractors have probably forgotten what it is like to be a beginner and the need for slow paced, clear, and easy to follow instructions. Keep up the great work. I have bookmarked this video so I can refer to it again in the future when needing another picture frame.
Thank you so much, your way of making 45d angles is fool proof.. Im new to woodworking and I have really learnt something here, you have made a real soul distroying joint which I keep struggling with seem so easy, the Penny has now dropped lol.. Fantasic video, and once again. THANK YOU .... Steve
Colin, I used this set up tonight to make a mock-up box (per my wife)for my son’s graduation in May, it worked perfect. Thanks for the video!
First off thank you for all your hard work in making these how to videos. I do a lot of woodworking but have always had trouble with frames using a mitre sled for table saw, now using your technique I make many frames and they are perfect.
While working on a frame in my shop, I became so frustrated that I put the piece down and came to my office. I searched for a video on making precision miters and found this video. After watching it I returned to my shop and followed this video step by step and VIOLA!!! I created a beautiful frame. Thank you so much for this invaluable information.
Invaluable indeed!✏📏📐😊😎🇺🇸
Frick you made that look easy!!!! Thank you! I've been making frames with a hand saw and miter box. The plug in one I just bought will make this so much easier!!!!!! Thank you for the set up walkthrough! ♥️
Thank you so much for this video. The tips you shared made a HUGE difference for me! My old chop saw is not properly calibrated so checking with a proper square, using the wood fence and that little block made all the difference! Thank you!
Yes, the stop block is used basically as a measuring device, and yup, depending on the wood, if you press too hard you could feather the end, but in our experience we really didn't encounter any problems with that, but thanks for mentioning it, it could be an issue with some. Great to have you with us and thanks for taking the time.
Colin
Colin, I don't know if you still read comments from videos you posted 8 years ago, but I find all your videos so helpful. Thanks for showing us all the step by step details -- we beginners need someone to show us how that sliding stop block was made, that we should cut the backer board to 45 before we start cutting the picture frame to 45, etc. All the little things that add up to make the process run smoothly. I really appreciate your teaching style.
Hi Steve, thanks for the note. You could use either a table saw or a router with a dado bit to cut our that rabbet on the frame. My experience with both is that sometimes, depending on the wood and the grain, the router choice tends to fray the wood, the table saw is my first choice.
Great to have you with us and thanks again for the question.
Colin
Always have to work safely, especially when so many people are watching. Thanks for the comment on the sliders, my experience is not as positive, have always found them great for basic construction but a bit lacking for making accurate picture frames, sounds like I need to upgrade my level of quality in sliders. Thanks for the comment, we listen to all of them. Great to have you with us
Colin
I was trying to make a floating frame for my own artwork. Thanks for the help. I was having difficulty repeating perfect angles. Now to set up! So excited!
As an artist, I frequently need to frame my artwork. The prospect of the challenges that I face was discouraging to say the least. I just finished applying your method and was pleasantly surprised how easy it is to implement your instructions. Thanks so much for generously sharing your knowledge and skills.
Thanks!! I took "frame making" class a cupla years ago. ...learned more with this video.
This was the best video for me, of many that I have watched, to get my miter cuts straight. My miter cuts are always tricky, and even though I have become much better at it, and occasionally get some perfect, it always takes me way too too long. I wanted to know a trick to getting the sides perfectly equal. This is exactly what I needed. and that backer board does the trick for me. Thank you for the video.
Thank you Great Wizard. I just spent 2 hours doing what you said not to ( after the fourth corner didn’t line up). Tomorrow I’m going to start over after watching this (and replacing the blade my miter saw came with :). Thanks again.
Excellent, I’m setting up for a 45” X 37” picture frame that will have glass as well. Thank You for the simple way to set up and get accurate corners.
Yesterday my mitres were an embarrassment. After watching this video today everything lined up perfectly. Totally understood exactly what I was doing wrong. Given me a lot more confidence.
Thank you Colin 🙏
So were mine.(mitres).even after watching the video. lol..but that was my fault..I did exactly what he said alot of people do..get 3 good sides and the 4th doesnt line up..I bet if you used Trig, you could cut the overall length dimension instead? (and still get your inside dimension..Wouldnt it be easier figuring out your overall dimensions?? Just asking..you would just need to know the width of your frame with what you want on inside? Its been awhile so i forget the math but i know you can do it. awesome video though..Thanks Colin..I would really like to know about if you can do it with the overall dimension. If not then why? I'm curious..no big deal.
Thanks for the comments, we ALWAY love to hear ideas from others, we will put these done for future considerations.
Thanks for taking the time
Colin
Excellent, clear simple instruction using a chop saw and a few inexpensive tools. Worth watching the entire video. As an artist, I need to be able to make as much of my frames and stretchers as I can to save $$. thank you!
Thank you so much! I am an artist and have been frustrated making so many mistakes when framing. Now they are correct with your help!
Thank you for such a clear and helpful video. The only thing more frustrating than not getting my angles right is not being able to do the dry fit to see if things fit properly. That right angle frame set up you have to push against is a great idea. Thank you for being so generous with your time, sir.
Thank you!!! So simple and something I’ve struggled with! Can’t wait to make my own frames now. Thanks, Colin.
Thanks for the primer - that was enlightening (I just tried to true up a frame I made and had exactly the problem you show at the start.) Now I know how to set my mitre saw for better corners.
Wow, great idea. In making picture frames with a power miter saw, I've been able to figure out how to make good 45 degree cuts, but not how to get the sides exactly of even length. Now I see how to do it!
You described exactly the problem I was dealing with. Your solution worked. Thank you so much.
I know my videos are too long .. but many thanks for the positive response.
I am working at making them shorter :) ...
Great to have you with us
Colin
You are an excellent teacher. Thank you. I have a cheap saw and now I understand why my joints were always out. Dodgy angle settings on my cheap saw.
Kudos!!! "Ding" and the light came on when you said "parallel sides = length..".
I'm glad this popped up in my list search....I have to crank out three or four simple frames, may as well refresh/relearn my memory skills and I am happy I did!!
Thanks for showing me how!!
Thank you for taking it step by step. It’s so nice to watch someone who teaches to complete beginners rather then to other experts. Loved it!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. I have quite a few frames to make as I have been painting since 1970. Your video is the best I have watched for setting up a miter saw to cut the frame pieces. I don't have access to a table saw but I do have a miter saw.
I've watched a few videos for frames and this is by far the best, absolutely perfect technique for perfect frames done so easily and exact!
Thank you so much. This was my first time and you made it look easy. I appreciate it. I also love how my first frame came out!
I am in process of making mirror for my bathroom using crown molding. I am glad I saw this before I started .Thanks so much.
Hmmm, you could try this method but I haven't had much look with it. I generally have to go back to the table saw for box making.
Thanks for taking the time to comment ... great to have you with us
Colin
Years ago all of that hit me & I got it figured that out & has saved a lot of time The sharp blade sure helps
Thanks to your video I probably not get frustrated making picture frames. You where a great help. Again thank. All your videos are very educational
So incredibly helpful, Colin, and not just for picture frames. Thank you.
Glad you liked it, thanks for commenting
Great to have you with us
Colin
Thanks for the comment, I am always worried that my videos are too long, and perhaps for some they are but there have been very few complaints.
We always appreciate it when people comment about the videos, this way we can work at making them better.
Thanks again for taking the time
Colin
oooh my god!! Where were you during my entire life!!! you are so clear, you teach so good!! thankyou for everything!!
lol ... thanks Emanuelle, appreciate your comments
Colin
I first watched your video many years ago. It is my go to refresher course LOL. I think you are an excellent instructor.
Thank you for your videos, I love the way you take your time to explain step by step what you’re making. I’m so grateful to have found your channel. God Bless you.
this was SUPER helpful. Thank you. I would avoid making 45 joints because I'd mess them up. Very excited to try this.
I have been trying to fix my corners by re-cutting and you made everything easier to follow, I found that my carpenters square was not true 45 . Thanks for the help. Ed
Yeah I know, but sometimes I get stuck for the proper names, and intend on reshooting but this one slipped by ... but you guys with those sharp ears always catch me out :)
Great to have you with us
Colin
I do not have a shop. I do most of my work outside when the weather is good. Your tips are awesome. I don't have a sliding mitre saw. I especially like the tip of the sliding stop block. I am going to try this on a regular mitre saw.
Hi Andy .... thank YOU for taking the time to comment, we appreciate the thought
Colin
I edit my own videos for my channel and I know how much effort and time is needed, so I appreciate every minute of the video. When you find a channel like this or like thewoodwhisperer one, time is not that important because you know it is a masterclass.
Totally agree! And the plug, well if I’d a Sliding saw, it’s good to always be thinking about unplugging it! A bit lengthy yes, but as a beginner, very necessary. I am just questioning a little bit about the “the pinning it togerher” I assume that is a nail gun Not a staple gun? And if we don’t have that tool, what else would be suggested? Thank you! 🙏🏻
@@juliepiper7058 glue and a belt clamp..I mean as a woodworker there is always something you need or don't have..at first. I'm slowly building my tool arsenal. I ordered the belt clamp thing that supposed to work good with picture frames. I will try the dowel pins also. That is just kinda overkill..It's a picture frame..The precise location of putting the dowel pins in is a whole other step that can be skipped. I suppose if you have to do everything the old fashioned way then more power to you. Maybe if it falls off the wall it will stay in one piece with dowel pins, probably not with glue. .
Some very helpful advice clearly put. I'll definitely be using the plastic set square and backer board from now on, many thanks
Lol! This is exactly how I messed up my frame. The compound error resulted in a huge gap on the last corner. He is correct, the recut made matters worse. Thanks for helping me figure out what I did wrong here.
Thanks for the info on the Mitre Saw setup. That will make a big difference on my framing joints. Always enjoy your teachings 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Best teacher on the internet at this time, thank you for sharing your great knowledge with others, we appreciate the calm and detailed way of your videos. The other videos are very fast and you cannot retain what they are trying to teach.
THANKS!!! YOU ANSWERED A LONG TIME PROBLEM I HAD MAKING FRAMES> THANKS !!Tony Seelbach
+Anthony Seelbach Glad this was helpful, thanks for commenting
lol ... thanks Phil for your comments, yup you are correct and I am working on that, I will try to think of your comments here, it did bring a smile to my face.
Thanks again ...
Colin
Thank you so much for this video! You have a great way of explaining things, best woodworking channel I’ve found on UA-cam!
Haven't read all of the comments, but when cutting the 4" stop block I cut a 45* angle on the piece as I frequently have found when working with soft wood such as pine, pressing the finished cut against a squared off stop block can flatten the point slightly and end up slightly shorter than desired and perhaps not the same length as the opposing side. Using the 45* edge of the stop block eliminates this potential variable. As usual, another great instructional video! Thanks for all you do!
Nope :) all good here Phil. I have no problem with viewers trying to help me out, and most people are pretty good about things ... like yourself.
Great to have you with us
Colin
Thanks for the note Dave, great to have you with us. We would love to see some of your projects some time on woodworkweb.
Thanks again for posting
Colin
Very educational solved a lot of problems I was having getting perfect mitres.Thanks!!
Thank you, you explained what I was doing wrong and then clearly showed me how to do it right. Excellent work.
Thanks for taking the time to comment Matt
Very simple explanation on how to cut mitre joints for a picture frame! Would like to of seen how you go about making the rabbets as well! Should you first complete the rabbets and then the mitre cuts or other way round! Great video Colin!
I agree with you ... there are time we have so much going on that little details slip by us and it's not good. We thank viewers who call us on this, we need to make sure we are always following and showing best safety practices. Great to have you with us
Colin
Thanks for taking the time to comment :)
Great to have you with us
Colin
You're a very good teacher. Thanks for taking the time to help others with your knowledge and experience.
Great video, I appreciate it. I am about to try my hand at making a shadow box. I believe this video just saved me from making a costly mistake by making a sloppy 45 degree angle. I will definitely use your techniques and take the time to make the angles right the first time
Hi Gary, I think I covered that in one of the previous frame making vids, but the way to do it is you need to account for the rabbet where the glass and/or matte and/or picture will go, so the inside of where these joints meet on each corner should be your actual dimensions. So measure from the inside diagonal of that rebbat, then work that length back using a square to where the outside frame length needs to be. I don't think I can be clear enough in this tiny space for responses.
How refreshing to be able to watch instruction at a gentle pace. Perfect. Thank you.
Absolutely fantastic video..This video was so perfect.. ANY CONFUSION I had was vanquished.. this was perfectly explained and I was able to understand everything and compare it to what I was doing and see where I went wrong. THANK YOU SO MUCH. just great..subbed
lol ... Mary, thanks for a great comment, glad you found the video useful, that's what we strive to achieve.
Thanks for taking the time to comment
Colin
Sounds like you have a chop saw, yes they will work fine but you will still need to check the accuracy, Sorry for delay in getting back .. thanks for commenting, great to have you with us
Coln
Thanks for taking the time to comment ... great to have you with us
Colin
I know the video is almost 9 years old, but it is still awesome for a newbie like me. Thank you. Please, keep up the inspiring work.
Thanks for the tips. Incredibly easy and functional. Now to get these frames done, thanks again.
Excellent video instruction! The only thing I would have added would be the vertical alignment of the blade. Your instructions are clear and to the point. Thanks a bunch!!
@Hello Tom how are you doing
I've made a few picture and notice board frames in my time but I've learned a couple of valuable tips with this video - thanks again.
@Hello Alan how are you doing dear
Colin thank you for posting this it was a great help to me make frames for my wifes crafts
Thanks so much for this brilliant video. You just saved me so much money. my frames are always way out and I was blaming my cheap equipment. I now know how I can manually fix the settings that are way out.
Thanks for the info. I've been doing things backwards and really struggling with the corners as you showed. Will use the longer fence board and stop and hopefully that will help. Great video
i like the idea of having the backer board vs having a tray style that stays on the saw. You could really make a fancy but simple backer board that would store away nicely.
thank you sir!
Thanks for commenting Sylvia ... maybe you will send us some pics of your art in those frames you are making :)
Colin
Thanks for all your hard work. If not for people like yourself posting videos I probably would have never done a lot of the home renovations I completed
Fabulous clear and simple..i have several hundred damaged antique frames that i can now recut in a straight forward manner...thanks for great video..when doing your first cut on new wood it wood save time power if you lined up all 4 at once
Glad to hear you can put this work for you ... thanks for commenting :)
I have never seen box joint made on a sliding mitre and it's probably not a great idea for that, hard to control the depth of cut. I was making 1/4" wide cuts ... thanks for asking this, I forgot to mention it in the vId
Great to have you with us, thanks for commenting
Colin