Nick Saban Gives BRUTALLY Honest Take On The State Of Modern College Football... | Pat McAfee Reacts
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Basically, college sports are being turned into the franchise mode in madden except with less strict rules than the video game 😂😂😂
Great analogy
Basically it’s illegal to restrict ability to earn based on your name image and likeness
It's always been that way he's just upset that all the schools can do it now
@@coryb8432 exactly.... levels the playing field a bit
It’s an even playing field now. He can’t have complete control over players.
It’s crazy how every college player is essentially a free agent at the end of every year
Pretty Cool
@@XCodesit’s going to have to evolve and maybe add strict salary caps.
College football made this mess from all those years of not paying the players.
@@XCodescry more
@@joebriggs5781 I agree with you, college football brought this on themselves by not paying players for all these years. Nothing is guaranteed for these kids, play time, the nfl etc etc. So that they want guaranteed playing time (to get seen and a chance to get drafted) and make some money (that absolutely pales in comparison to what the school makes off these kids back) is not an insane request. The college system has just been so used to not having to deal with this and having all the power and control.
I'm sure we''ll see some form of college GM emerge as I do agree with this not being the coaches' issue to deal with. But coaches in college get paid a whack ton. It's insane they feel it's annoying players get compensated and will then hold out for cash.
@@XCodesIncentivizes Player Dev Every Yr....NExt Years NIL will be Trash 4 U if U Suck dis Yr.
The coaches, including Nick Saban created this problem. When college football became huge business in the 90's and 2000's. Head coaches started jumping from college to college to pros to college to college. All the while selling kids on coming to their school, knowing if a better opportunity opened up, he was bolting, and the kids were stuck and not getting paid.
Facts
Brock Purdy made 800K for the 49ers this team while Archie manning made 2.5 million at the university of Texas and he didn’t even play. There will be players just milking their college salaries and they know they’ll never go pro.
id play every year allowed if i was making a couple million
That’s literally the point of the NIL.
Nick Saban made his money. What is he crying about now? So he didn't have an agent? Argument is crazy
There's something wrong with the system if those numbers are correct. That's as upside down as it gets.....
How do you know Arch made 2.5 million?
To be fair I played college ball from 2010-2015 and I saw so many good players never get a real shot to play bc the coach wanted to play the guys he recruited or some other non football related reason to favor certain players. So it’s hard for me to be mad at a player using the current system to make sure he actually gets to play and/or gets paid. Coaches can coach forever. Players only have 4 years to make something happen
So some rare instance of someone staying on the bench justifies turning college football into a glorified G league that’s funded with taxpayer dollars and shady boosters? At that point just don’t go to college. Especially not a public university.
Yup. The growing pains of finally paying the players is a big ol “not my problem” from the players side. The schools and business tactics need to adjust, not the players. Like you said, opportunity is finite. The school will still be there.
Preach!
The concept of learning at college to prepare for life is now gone? “I only have 4 eligible years to make my money” is now “college athletics”? Let’s just kill the “student athlete” joke. Make money in a minor league sports league. Let colleges educate people who want to prepare for life.
@@rdspam there’s millions of people right now with bachelors degrees and student debt that can barely afford rent bc they believed that “college prepares you for life” myth.
You can’t allow everyone to treat college sports like a business except the players. I know that’s what you’d like but that’s not reality.
You used to be able to choose a school like Stanford or UCLA for the value of the degree. And now it’s purely about how much money you can get.
Oh no the horror of being compensated for your skills by more than a scholarship!
Money pays bills
I dont think the Football prospects were going to Stanford or UCLA for the value of the degree. They went because they got a scholarship offer and a shot at the NFL. Which is why the kids that do very well often enter the Draft before they graduate. They can finish their degree later when they are millionaires.
Good. The cost of the goods the universities were paying the players was completely undervalued compared to the money the players were raking in. CFB was a scam built on nearly free labor.
You must be a coach!
So they are treating it like jobs. If a job told me they'll pay me more and Ill have the same role or more opportunity to grow Im taking it. In any other sector of the world, the way the college kids do business makes sense. We can't knock them
Except it doesn’t. When we compare them to their closest thing, the NFL, or any sport with money, you don’t get to decide when you leave. You’re contracted for a certain amount of years barring trades and being fired (let go).
@@abrahamdrinkin2534 Every College player isn’t going to the NFL. Which is why I said they are treating like a job (which it is let’s be real). There is no contract saying I can’t leave and if I have better opportunities I’m leaving.
@@abrahamdrinkin2534 The job market is just free agency every year unless you have a contract already lol
I couldn’t agree more. They deserve to be paid especially considering how much money everyone else has been making for so long.
I got whiplash from how much common sense is permeating through this comment
It’s hard enough recruiting the kind of talent you need to compete At Alabama’s level as it is, but the extra effort needed to essentially re-recruit the players you’ve already hustled for and signed once is a lot to ask of anyone, let alone a man who’s now seventy-something years old.
Get rid of portal. That’ll solve the jumpin around
This may be why Alabama just named their first ever General Manager in Courtney Morgan. I'm wondering if it becomes his job to handle these questions so Kalen DeBeor can spend more time coaching? Maybe more teams will have GMs in the future?
The problem isnt the players being paid its that they just implemented it with no real regulation
They didn't implement anything. It was a court ruling. NCAA lost and any attempt they made at putting some controls on NIL and the portal got them sued so they gave up. The courts decided the future of college football and it's not looking good.
Coaches leaving for a better offer at another university or the NFL, or unbridled NCAA executive salaries. Which would you like to regulate first?
@@blazer859Is coaching a professional vocation? Is the NCAA an amateur body?
@@Steve-qy8orhead coaches screw teams and recruits over all the time
@@RoCK3rAD Did not say coaches are innocent. But this will destroy college football.
They made the playing field even and bro packed it up 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was never suppose to be like this is was meant for athletes to go out and use their name. The school was not suppose to be finding deals and throwing money at the athletes. It was meant for students to go and use their name to get brand deals.
You forget one thing. The schools were already out looking for deals. That's why they made so much money. Now, they have to cut the players in too.
I knew it was gonna be a crap show at the start most did
Really!? You thought it was gonna go down like that, huh?
Which is EXACTLY why they didn't allow it. They knew it would be abused. Until some blowhards used employment laws to blow it all up.
@@cmike123 You're forgetting one thing. The schools built this entire fantastic league. They had a great format that many players VOLUNTARILY benefited from. No one was forced to play college football.
AJ mentioned how in the NFL a GM handles the business, and coaches coach. This is what they need to establish in College ball. Separation of responsibility.
What AJ did not address is the NFL is scripted and fixed. He knows it is and so does MAC but without the NFL neither are working.
Most college Athletes have to earn it to start just because your being recruited doesn’t grant success. Majority don’t even cut the professional level, so his right plus you’ll see how it goes when most players won’t be able to make the draft when his past players have had better success and winning superbowls then today. This also helps really talented players fall late to lot of future NFL drafts will just because the portal spread the former top SEC ready players
We wouldn't have this problem if the ncaa just give back some profits they made from students decades ago. Imagine your school making millions while you the athlete can't accept brand deals without getting suspended.
Even a simple gift car can get you suspended.
I hear you and auditing is important to follow the money colleges receive. However, as a former tutor to the athletic department at the Univ of Louisville, you need to change the model so players can get compensated (I guess beyond the $40k per year in scholarship money). Aside from a few Boosters and others who skim money from the top, college athletics supports a large number of programs, infrastructure, and scholarships for other departments and losing that money could be devastating. Over thirty years ago a colleague and I proposed a system of keeping the college athlete a student and still compensate them in a trust. That compensation went to every player, not just the "stars". In addition, you would receive an extra two years of tuition, room, and board to used to finish your degree. It wasn't NIL money, but I watched major college athletics completely take over a student's time, making it hard to keep him or her in class. So, it amazes me that they have all this time to pursue NIL agreements. I would just say that destroying the idea of the "college athlete" in order to fold to the demands of the players will hurt more people than help. Compensate them, yes, but don't pretend this is the NFL.
@@jeffreyhall8195DUDE you just don’t get it an you never will ….. smh
I been saying it since they brought it into the ncaa, if they don’t put a cap on it and things meaning the NIL, they will ruin football
Its crazy to see the comments that so many people were okay when Alabama was doing the back ally deals and Coaches were okay.
With Poland player scholarships because of XY and Z reasons. Now that they don't have That power anymore. No college football Is it a bad situation?
Being a college coach (especially having to deal with recruiting all over the country) seems like a horrible nightmare. And now having to deal with recruiting via the transfer portal, not losing players to the portal PLUS trying to make folks happy with NIL? He's picking a good time to get out.
The guy was getting paid 10 million a year that was generated by the athletes playing for him. He and many others seemed fine with how insane college football was, but now they have problems because they have to pay the people generating all that revenue what they're actually worth.
@@michaelcook7778that's not the point saban was talking about you completely missed the point.
Saban wanted players to get paid but this free for all thatvit has turned into was exactly what saban warned against.
That's fine we'll just have players no longer be students, they will sign contracts and become employees of the university. They will agree to a set salary and with it will come penalties and or a contract buyout just like the pros. So if an thalete flunks out or wants to go play for another university, we'll someone better be prepared to cover that buyout penalty.
@@michaelcook7778”generated by the athletes playing for him”
So Saban was just doing nothing the whole time?
@@INoticeTooMuch1 He was doing far from nothing, but he would have had nothing to do if there were no athletes.
Regardless of how important other components of college football are, none of it happens without the athletes.
@@andrewbennett2044 To be fair, the comment was explicitly about the athletes. That aside, I agree there needs to be a more sensible system in place to handle the realities of what college football has become. For better or worse, Division I college football has been allowed to grow to absurd proportions monetarily, and the only reasonable path forward is paying the athletes.
I just don't think anyone with the power to institute such a system was ready to admit those realities, so we have chaos instead of a well thought out system.
I'm not sure if this has been talked about anywhere else, but I listened to the Locked On Badgers podcast for the University of Wisconsin today, and they had Dan Fodrocy on to talk exactly about all of this. He talked about the unpredictability of NIL and the possible consequences it could have in the future. He talked about the direction he thinks college football is trending, and he said he thinks football teams will end up creating a GM position if things stay the way they are. He mentioned that it's impossible to be a football coach now with all the demands put on coaches plates, compared to what they were being asked to do 5-10 years ago. It was also brought up the consequences of having to pay every athlete in every sport due to the current and potential future lawsuits, or that schools will end up cutting maybe 3 sports programs to fund their football and basketball programs.
I agree with most of what was said, except the last part. NIL is students getting paid for their Name, Image, and/or Likeness. This means the university only pays them if they use their name, image, or likeness for profit. These kids are really getting money from game companies like EA and can get money from commercials and social media.
@@cmike123The NIL payments are not coming directly from the Universities.
No GM needed because schools aren't the ones paying the players.
I'm still holding out hope that it all collapses and the courts come in and say "our bad, labor laws don't apply to college sports. do what you want".
“I don’t want to compete, I want it now”
Same could be said of saban. “Oh no I can’t have a full roster of 5 star backups waiting in the wing every year”
@@jp__878 So I will just run.
....is Exactly what Saban is saying.
Can’t blame the players really. Most of those kids have never seen significant money in their lives. Why spend your college career potentially buried on the depth chart when you can transfer to some school, make more money and start?
@@XCodestbh he Probs doesn;t want his Rep Trashed like BB's after TB12 left....I Feel He's done Coaching CFB.
Well the University's will start to hire the equivalent to GM's or staff that handles getting players NIL deals. They have to make the payroll.
The way the Hockey league development leagues in Canada work. Junior players get drafted. They get paid a standard amount and if they don't make it to play pro sports then the Junior team pays for their education.
Oh and the top players are drafted and can be traded. The players don't control were they play once they make the teams.
Who gives af about hockey lol the sport with the least revenue ncaa football is big business the players deserve the money
@@postsniper-7532 Junior Hockey in Canada is a pro league. They get paid. Only if they don't make it in Hockey do they also get a Scolarship. At any University they want.
American colleges should be able to straight up pay players with contracts.
This makes sense. Wow. More people should understand that.
@@postsniper-7532this makes sense. NCAA FOOTBALL IS JUNIOR LEAGUES. BEEN THERE, COULDNT HAVE A CAR COMMERCIAL IN TOWN IN THE 90S THOUGH. THATS WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT.
@@deuce-infinitum2001 College athletics in general makes billions of dollars AND promote the Colleges that have top programs which generates more revenue for those colleges.
Why not just straight up pay players???
If an employee is making me money I pay them. If a College student makes billions for universities well... They get an education for their busted bodies.
The problem is that there are no rules around jumping ship of programs
Good. If you don't like how you're being treated working at McDonald's, no rules say you can't take your ass across the street to Wendy's. And there shouldn't be.
That goes for the coach carrousel too.
You are the problem. Why do you think "rules" are necessary? Please explain.
And there shouldn’t be
@@jamesbarrick3403 Because it take awhile for a team to play together so schemes have to be simple because of too many new guys and it makes it worse for fans. No problem with guys getting paid though.
College Football is becoming Ultimate Team in Madden!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 facts
@@domdaniel8184 it already was only the Coaches and Administrations were making all of the money. Now the kids are making cash it seems to be a problem....
I like the idea of the transfer portal … but, in its current state, I think it actually hurts a lot of players. In the past, you could pay your dues and earn your playing time. Now, the top schools with rich donors can just bring a new crop of transfers in every year. So, there’s almost no way to know your standing.
It’s also destroying the concept of a four year scholarship. Basically, it can really hurt the students who are using their athletic talent as a way to pay for college.
Kids on scholarship should be the same getting NIL deals, if you give a bum a scholarship that just means your scouting is trash.
I think it's like only 2.5% of college football players ever go to the NFL, and even those that do go it's a very small percentage that "make it big". So the degree they earn in college does or should mean something to these guys.
Yeah but the nil is offsetting the the scholarship
@@user-en9qd5nx8w But, 95% of college players THINK they're NFL material, especially their first couple of yrs!
When was there ever a four year scholarship? The kids have always been on a single year scholarship that is renewed every year. Get a career ending injury and that scholarship is pulled. College sports has always been business from the school's perspective.
And if a recruit couldn't contribute like they expected, the kid would not only be cut, but had to miss a year to transfer to another school. Now the kids are nearly on the same business level as the schools that make billions of them.
90 percent of the players are in a position where this is the only significant chance they'll ever have to make money for themselves. They're not going to sit on the bench. They're not going to take bottom dollar to be in a position where they could lose their role to someone else. They only get 4-5 years to do this. Saban has guaranteed 10 mil coming to him no matter what happens and doesn't have to worry about anyone taking his job.
Apples to oranges. Nick is the face of Alabama and a coach of men. You’re comparing pawns to kings.
@@EndofCamelotinteresting choice to compare players to pawns
Free market says otherwise. Saban is running because now he isn't going to be able to convince 4 star players to ride the pine and he doesn't get gift-wrapped national title appearances anymore. He's a dinosaur and a coward. @@EndofCamelot
@@drobert1741 Saban beat your fav team over and over right?🤣
Uh no we have a winning record against him and Bama lol@@r8d4tube
As someone who was a big proponent of NIL, slowly starting to agree with the opposition that it is messing with the game significantly
There needs to be a cap on NIL contracts based on freshmen, redshirting, playing time, etc. It needs to be structured in a manner that it gives realistic incentives for incoming HS players, but it also doesn't give them BAGs of cash with nothing for collateral on their side. You perform, you get paid. If they get millions up front, why do they need to put forth effort?
What’s happening in College Football is going to affect the play in the NFL. Players will come into the league having not been coached up with a great work ethic not to mention the players have dictated their own terms before they got to the NFL. It’s going to be interesting.
Amateur sports are going to ruin the pro game , especially football.
He’s just mad he’s not getting all the 5stars like he used to for how many years?
Yeah, any of these coaches coming out with opinions that suggest the problem is the players wanting to get paid and have options are just invalid. People like Saban benefitted from essentially free labor for way too long.
Well, he got the MOST 5stars in 2023... So your point is.....? You're dumb? Or just ignorant? 😂
Well he retired so why would he be mad about that? 😭
He's dominating recruiting in the NIL
I’m not a Bama fan but Saban and the Tide consistently gets the best players/recruiting classes because these kids know they it gives them the best chance at being coached by the best as well as exposure due to being Bama..These kids commit to bama because their love of the game and betting on themselves but times are changing..I can’t argue with either side because Saban has made a ton of $ over the years and when you offer a kid more $ for a year than they may have ever seen or seen their parents make in a few years it would be hard for me to pass up
these kids should have been getting paid a long time ago. i see no problem with them evaluating every opportunity through the lens of money. that's what we all do as adults.
But the flip side of that is the college football game we grew up watching is now forever changed. If the NCAA can figure out the proper system for bringing the best product to market, we'll all be better off for it. Let's be real....the playoff this year was the best playoff we've seen.
Well articulated. Im shocked more fans don’t have this perspective. I figure it’ll be a year or two of transitional time before they figure out a really good system, and then everyone wins. Players get paid for keeping the cfb engine turning, fans get a better on-field product. Thats the future I see
Saban is right... CFB is wild rn
Soon as 5-star players have options, Saban starts to question everything. He is right about things changing, but he is giving up because he isn't the first choice anymore.
@@thatboy3930Well I don’t think it’s just that. There’s no loyalty to any team. It’s about who’s going pay the player the most(witch I totally understand).
College football has BEEN wild. It's just that up until now, they had mostly free labor.
College football has been generating billions of dollars for decades and finding ways to compensate recruits since before Reggie Bush was made an example of.
Now that the athletes are actually getting a fair cut of the obscene amounts of money they generate, people like Saban want to complain. This guy was making TEN MILLION A YEAR coaching these athletes, but has a problem when they want to get paid too.
@@thatboy3930#1 Recruiting class in 2023 with the most 5 star recruits. Yep, he obviously can't/couldn't recruit anymore. 🤣
@@morganpuckett6860 Saban Left LSU for the Dolphins when it suited him, and left the dolphins for Alabama when it suited him. Fans are loyal to teams, it's mainly a job for everyone else involved.
I think the biggest issue is it’s making the job of the coaches an insanely lot more work on top of what it already is. The flash in the pan coaches are good for few years and move to NFL or better paying school ontop of uncertainty with players, it’s good for players getting max paid, but it’s creating chaos and instability everywhere else.
They shoulda thought about it before hoarding all the money
This is really hurting the high school athlete. Why take one when you can get a big college player who has already gained experience in college academics and athletics. As a JuCo football coach, I appreciate the number of kids I can approach to play for us, but it sucks. These kids seem to go for the money a lot then transfer out because they don't do research on how many other guys they have in their position. Now, add that to the clear concept that the NCAA wants a superconference or two and see that the non power 5 is just forgotten since the conferences will rake in money from half their teams taking playoff spots. Its all politics and it sucks.
You’re just jealous your sports dreams are failing . So you hate . It’s classic . Juco kids live in cars and steal crab legs from the store . Get a job you’re not going pro. Just give it up
Because there is not an infinite supply of those kids. It's not like the amount of kids changed. The *distribution of talent* is what is going to change. Talented back-ups are going to go to smaller teams to be the starter. JuCo kids are probably going to be in higher demand and will ask for less money. Kids that would normally be stuck in smaller programs like Duke or Old Dominion will get a shot at the big boys because they will be more likely to sit behind a starter.
This isnt hurting anything.
It's all money not politics. CFB has been stealing from players for decades. It's payback time.
Oklahoma just hired a former player to be their gm (director of player personnel)
More often than not ncaa athletes won’t go pro. I have no problem with the players who fall in that realm taking the best offered option. What I do want to fix is buying top players. And I’ve had a problem with that for a long time with coaches. NCAA treated everyone except players like a business for so long that now everyone is just immediately going to take what seems like the best option. There really was no transitional period to see what would work and what would need to be tweaked going forward.
thing is money use to be the biggest motivator, get to the pro's and get the bag. Now guys just want to make a little bag and think their mindset not going to change, false. Worst mistake to the college game.
Sounds to me like they’re saying, it ain’t no fun when the rabbit got the gun.
Exactly. changing of the old guard.
Do you really think he was the only getting good talent? Wake up have you seen Georgias recruiting class for the last 6 years????
Nah, more like the rabbit ain’t coming outta their hole unless guarantees of free carrots.
Except the rabbit is fat and slow now because it never had to face adversity.
Sucks to watch too
Colleges are gonna have to create a position similar to a GM to manage this NIL stuff. That way you can take a little off of the coach
Take the money off of the coaches plate and hire an NIL department that handles negotiations.
There’s a big difference between getting endorsement deals cause you play well for a college or even making money off your social media and universities paying kids to come to their school or even comfort visits. This unrestricted NL destroyed college football made the best coach in history quit and it’s going to ruin kids lives not to mention it’s gonna have a major effect on the NFL as well
Saban is old buddy,it was time for him to retire anyways 🤷🏽♀️
Saban was the best coach BECAUSE he took advantage of college players not getting paid. He had a huge recruitment edge, and now he doesn't and players get paid. I think it's likely a big part of the reason he quit is because he realized he would basically have to compete on an equal playing field.
No, Saban and his henchmen boosters at Alabama were the best at paying players and staying under the radar.. hopefully all this is exposed.. he wasn't the greatest anything
@@RMMomma4Eva only reason it was time for him to retire is because they ruined college football. All you have is a bunch of entitled little pricks and only care about money. He clearly wanted to keep coaching and still could’ve but wide coach entitled assholes that haven’t earned a dime yet.they should get endorsement deals. I just don’t think colleges should be paying kids to come there or further visits and the transfer portal. I just ruined the best sport left.
BigTen and SEC commissioners are going to change it this year.
Michigan hired a GM this year.
Going to change the supreme courts ruling?
It's the Law they can't change it.
They can absolutely find ways to exercise control with major programs. They’ll still pay players, but as a closed league, they’re going to be able to set some standards for the new zeitgeist
You're dense@@balleraap007
Only way they can change it is to change themselves. NIL is a symptom. The cause is the greed each school has when it comes to pushing rhe limit every year on how much money they can make. Can’t blame the players for wanting a piece while the NCAA makes billions.
Ever college football player ever, knows the exact meetings being referenced at 9:00 lol
I’m fine with the players getting paid even though I think having their education paid for is pretty damn fortunate, but the big problem is the transfer portal. It should be that once you sign with a college you can’t transfer unless you have a good reason. Players shouldn’t be able to leave just due to lack of playing time or more money from another school. If you don’t play, get better until you’re first on the depth chart.
Define "good reason"...
Each conference needs to negotiate a salary cap and the schools pay the players. The players sign contracts.
The issue is the schools cant pay the players NIL refers to the use of an athlete’s name, image, and likeness through marketing and promotional endeavors. This can include autograph signings, product endorsements, social media posts, and more. NCAA rules still prevent schools from paying players directly. This means that college coaches cannot offer money as an incentive for high school athletes to come play at their school, nor can athletes receive compensation directly from their university based upon their athletic achievements.
They'd have to make them employees, which. is where it will go eventually, but CFB is run by a bunch of old guys who cannot see trends if they slapped them in the face. So much like the NCAA did, these old farts will wait until it is too late and miss the chance to get ahead of the revolution.
@@ronaldjackson2290 right. They should change that is what I'm saying.
Schools shouldnt pay players it should just be allowed that players get sponsorships
How do you regulate hundreds of scholl with different calibers and budgets?😅
Bama's been paying players for years. Even playing field now and he didn't wanna compete 🤷♂️
Great bait dude
You don't have a clue what you're talking about
Facts
Numb nuts!! You don’t know what you are talking about. You must be a GA fan!!
Cry more bama bozos
I'm surprised the major schools haven't hired a student finance manager yet somebody who solely responsible for assisting students with NIL
They literally have whole departments dedicated to that. Are you being sarcastic?
Saben was reminded of what he had to deal with way back when he coached in the NFL< maybe not as intense, but I can see he wasn't going to stick around with all these changes! And I can guarantee this pack of players will be even more obnoxious when they hit the pros!
They aren't obnoxious for FINALLY being able to seek fair pay for the value they generate, and exercising the deserved options and leverage that comes with that.
No Advantage since Every1 Can Pay Players Now.
I still think schools have advantages though. If you have rich boosters you r able to get more players.
Agree….But if Alabama was Paying Players Under-da-Table b4, and Other Schools weren’t (bc Following da Rules)….den dat Advantage 4 Saban is Now gone.
@@NOTDivorce3 I don’t even think it’s bout the money. Think it more has to do with players transferring every year.
@@blackstallion21487
Transferring 2 get More Money....Or More PLaying Time so dey can get More Exposure 2 Hopefully parlay into More Money.
So both Reasons come Down 2 Money in da End.
@@NOTDivorce3I think everybody was paying players the problem is now how much time you have to put into it for kids to just leave you hanging. The work ethic is gone. You make somebody unhappy they leave and they can just keep doing it with no punishment. These coaches already spend all year recruiting new kids now they have to recruit the kids already on their team and always worry if you make one decision that might better the team but make that kid unhappy they might just leave.
Limit transferring, or if you're going to allow unlimited transferring, then require players sit out a year again.
Are we doing the same for coaches??
@@ostv_officielSheeeeeeeeeeet
Transferring is already limited, players can only transfer one time without sitting out.
Stop comparing players to coaches. Coaches put their brick in already.
Players want to be employees then stop giving them scholarships
@@BoosterGoldEarth6so you just sound like the mad fans who are like Saban who can’t hoard 5 stars anymore illegally paying em under the table like Saban and Ohio did for decades
Who would have thought throwing millions at teenagers to play a sport you've already given a scholarship to play would be a bad idea.
Reap it college football, reap it.
Can coaches require players to sign a commitment that if we pay you, you have to stay until the end of junior year? Just curious
They should. Saban is right that NIL should have some regulation. There’s no rules to it which is creating chaos. Glad the players are getting paid tho
@@TheMCJ2011With the courts' rulings, there's no way they can legally restrict NIL.
@@TheMCJ2011FYI if you had the skills to make it to the pro's , they paying you somehow under the table. Straight paying them and letting unlimited transfers for 17-18 year olds was never going to end well lol.
@@chillones9574 Lol yeah I already know that
Don’t forget the players have options . One of them is called a UNION . Recent court decisions have been in favor of the college athletes. My major concern is how does the affect the D2s & FCS of the world or does it even apply ?
Imagine running an NFL team when any player can opt out of their contract at the end of every season and sign with your rival with no penalty. Need to have some balance. Maybe when players commit to a program that's where they are committed to for at least 2-3 seasons before being able to transfer? And in order for a season to count it must have counted against your eligibility?
I don't think we can compare NFL with college football. Yes the NFL contract process make sense (for the most part). Yes college athletes should be able to change schools after every season with no penalty, in my opinion, as long as they meet all the academic and other qualifications for enrolling in a new school, just like any other college student can.
Coach: But our school has a great engineering program!
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This is why the players should have to sign two year contracts
Agreed
So violate the supreme courts ruling ? Not happening buddy
@@balleraap007its called going back to the courts and changing it
@@balleraap007how can you type with the tears down your face from the meat that's always packed down it.
@@CatWith-AHat cry more that people make money of their name and image lmfao
Lmao 🤣😂 times are changing NIL the best thing to happen to college in my opinion. Them days of under the table deals and hogging all the talent is over with
College football gm/cfo needs to happen.
Let's Go!!!
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Why don't teams get a GM?
Ala has a GM. He came with DeBoer.
It was all good when everything was under the table. Now it's a level playing field and "oh we got some problems to figure out".
It makes college football less and less competitive. Enjoy it
@@magnumxlpiActually it makes it more competitive. All the 5 stars arent hoarded at one school the talent is gonna get spread out now
@@DocNininino actually only the big schools will have the money for the 4 and 5 stars. So the top will actually just get further separated from the pack
@@Victus2000Exactly, all the big schools, not just Alabama like it was under Saban's tenure.
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It’s become all about “Self”. No pride in winning - no us let alone team.
If NFL players played for free and then all of a sudden could earn money and had the opportunity to better their own odds of making it (by getting play time)-those coaches would be throwing hissy fits too. Sure, the system needs work, but these coaches seem to be missing that nuance with their complaints
Yeah, I'm disappointed every time one of them speaks up. They all seem to lean toward having a problem with the athletes exercising their deserved options now rather than the system that generates so much money off the athletes' backs not developing a better way to handle pay and transfers.
Exactly right. If Coach Saban was concerned only about the game and not about the money, he could have inquired about the coaching jobs at McNeese State or Wofford or Montana. Those schools would have been happy to employ him, and athletes there certainly wouldn't be expecting payment or transfers, and would be playing for four years, for the love of playing the game.
Saban just mad everyone can pay to win now just not him
Yall miss the point it's not that they don't want them to get paid or transfer they want to know who's playing for their team year after year. So they can plan practice schedules and know how to improve those guys. also nobody wants to work 330 of the 365 days a year doesn't matter the money you make. Imagine a world in the NFL where there wasn't a salary cap and players didn't have contracts.
@@RockyBreaux Plan practice schedules for the kids you have during Spring and Summer sessions. It aint that hard.
Guys we all know that when money becomes involved, situations change. Look at this way, when Jimbo Fischer and other coaches receives millions of dollars to basically get fired, kids are watching that. And some of them are saying what about me, I need to cash in also. I honestly don't blame any high school or college athlete from capitalizing on their name, image and likeness. Coaches will either have to change or age out of coaching.
How can you ask if you're playing if you have to work in the future to win the job? Tell me how that works
When I read there is a player playing their 8th season this coming year.............................
Coach Saban is the GOAT. He is always honest. CFB will be destroyed by NIL & Transfer Portal.
I don't understand how people want to control kids loves by saying they have to play for this school. Even though people have no idea what's going in behind the scenes. All these middle age jealous dudes trying to tell kids where they have to go to school
Saban is the GOAT. However, he lied to the kids on recent recruiting trips and he lied when he quit on the Dolphins and went to Bama.
@@inkarceration4069 they make a commitment to play for that school when they make that decision. That's on them regardless of if money's involved or not
@@austinhoffmeister6673bro has no concept of leverage and value
No it won't. It will just change. And it should. Saban was making ten million a year coaching these athletes, but has a problem now that they get their cut, and have options. If anyone wants to complain about the affect that money has on college football, they need to look a lot further than the athletes who are now able to get some of that money they are generating.
I’d love to see Saban coach high school ball. He’s got tons of money, he’s already more famous than he wants to be, his main thing is he loves to compete and help young men and that’ll allow him to do that without having to deal with all the NIL and transfer BS
I heard that high school level was next for NIL deals.
With open enrollment, in some places it’s still like free agency. Lol HS sports is grimier than people realize.
his exit meeting was ten minutes
Starting to think players that come from college are going need coaching to be pros. They are moving to make more, but are being coached by multiple guys and not learning everything about the position they are in. They might not be starting in the NFL as veterans will know the playbook and have experience. We wait to see in a couple years on it plays out.
These colleges have been paying the players for years under the table, and now that they have do business above table…they no longer want to compete.
I’m not a Bama fan..Saban and the Tide consistently get the best players/recruiting classes because these kids know it can provide them with the best chance at being coached by the best coaches, best facilities,as well as exposure due to being Bama..These kids commit to bama because their love of the game and are betting on themselves but times are changing..I can’t argue with either side because Saban has made a ton of $ over the years and when you offer a kid more $ for a year than they may have ever seen or seen their parents make in a few years it would be hard for me to pass up ..Saban is not a hyprocite IMO for saying these things either because he has worked as hard as anyone/done things the right way to get where he is..I see both sides but I something definitely needs to be done about the people who represent these “kids”..I’d bet on the fact we will hear a lo in the years to come about “agents” taking advantage financially on these players..I think one thing we all can agree on is coaches like Saban(not all coaches or universities )do not take advantage of these kids as well as the universities that offer them free tuition/benefit..It is what it is
This problem is trickling into the NFL as players arrive with that 'me first' attitude - players are no longer hungry and looking to compete - only to 'get what's mine' and 'be the brand'. It's the beginning of the end for both NCA and Pro football. The decline has already started - this will only accelerate it. The product on the field has been suffering because of it and you can see it getting worse by the season.
The NFL needs to start a minor league . The NBA has the G league , baseball & hockey have minor leagues . Football relies on colleges for their product & now it’s biting them in the ass .
“I got tired of adapting so I quit” -Nick Saban
As soon as it got even he dipped 😂
Success makes you salty i get it but had nothing to do with EVEN 😅 hell they were in overtime with chance of natty.
Literally had his best recruiting class and made the playoffs the year before he left and knocked off the defending national champs
Youre an idiot if you think that.
The transfer portals & NILs are destroying college football. I believe that players should have access to money thru NILs & should have some rights to transfer, but there's so little regulation right now it's basically the wild west... Schools offering players unlimited money, players being able to transfer every year... This is ridiculous.
I think you should only be allowed to transfer 1 time. But I agree it is the Wild West
The transfer portal is a fair point. I just don’t understand how or why it’s a problem that these kids are finally getting paid, when coaches and programs have been making MILLIONS off their backs for decades. I can’t find it in my heart to feel bad for them at all. You are right that it’s the Wild West right now and it will need some balance, but they deserve to be paid and paid well considering how profitable everyone else has been for so damn long.
@@corey69000 I don’t think the money is the problem. The problem is they transfer ever year. I’m all for them getting paid. Get as much as you can.
@@corey69000problem isn’t the money. It’s that you rather make a player happy or he is gone. They don’t have to work for anything because they will just leave. Hard to build anything because you make one guy unhappy and they are gone.
Don’t hear any coaches complaining about transferring when they get better jobs at better universities
It's not just football but basketball, too. You see players playing for a check and not the name on the jersey
They need to put a nil salary cap for the schools and put the cap low enough to effect how many nil deal players you can have or have the schools pay the team
1) salary cap 2) contracts
Done and done
1) illegal 2) illegal
@@balleraap007 both are perfectly legal. all you have to do is swap the players from students to employees
@@justadudewithopinions6209 just wow. You are truly delusional about how that will play out
putting them in contracts makes them professionals, which you cant be to play college sports. so not possible
@@JgarthebeastYou can be a professional and play college football. The NCAA doesn’t allow it, but the NCAA has no say at the end of the day when it comes to college football, cuz they don’t run anything.
If you’re gonna be giving college players all this money,make them sign contracts so at least you know how long you’ll have them
agree with having some sort of mutual commitment for stability and sanity.
@@thecurbsidechoir8783 exactly
You know how long you have them, it's 1 year. It's been that way forever.
The school doesn’t pay them. NIL is a third party paying them for name/image/likeness.
I knew this wanna gonna happen lmao
They need to reinstate the rule that if you transfer, you sit out an ENTIRE YEAR
“Grandpa, what was college football like before NIL”
“Well kiddo, let me put it this way. It was the greatest sport on the planet. Key word was.”
Yes we loved seeing the same 3-4 teams go to the championship every year wooooo so great
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Yeah it was fun when we made billions off of kids backs while they didnt receive a dime back. Those were the days
This requires regulation.
I'd watch and support a different college sports entity that isn't paying players.
@@RobChapalalol sooo what disc golf 🥴? I think everyone’s making too big of a deal out of it
Across the board. People are just focusing on the players.
@@GMAMECThe players are what matters. You want to see who’s the best to inform how it will shape the NFL
Coaches salary requires relegation. I'm all for the players finally getting their share.
Poor Nick Saban. I hope he makes it through
Alabama already has that "GM position" under coach DeBoer. Courtney Morgan is the General Manager for Alabama football. DeBoer already gets what you are saying Pat. Surprised you guys didn't mention this in this segment.
Sounds like the coaches on established teams that just automatically got the best guys every year are the ones upset about it
So you mean the coaches that are most successful?
@@waves9974pay the most under the table
You mean the teams that will still be the top ranked and go into the playoffs every year?
Saban mad like a gamer when the meta changes
Me going from old gen to next gen
The real problem isn't necessarily the NIL, but the unlimited transfer portal.
Notice Saban didn’t say any of these things when he was a part of the problem?
Saban for sure was happy when Bama was paying for all those 5 star players to win all those Natty's. Now everyone can legally pay for those same 5 stars today and Saban bitched out. Side note I don't think Saban was ever a great coach. He sucked at Mich St. Sucked in the NFL, was gifted a loaded LSU team that would've won a natty without him and I refuse to believe he turned a mediocre Bama team into national champs and loaded with 4 and 5 star talent in two years without pay2win
Dudes a quack and losing his grip as reality shifts
@@haroldbalzer5916, PREACH!!!
You forgot the very first place he sucked at in college as a head coach...UToledo@@haroldbalzer5916
I mean if Alabama doesn’t pay Saban. Would he still have that same passion and energy to coach kids??? 🤷♂️
Exactly!!!! Most of these guys are not going to have a career in football so the goal is how do I get the most out of what they are sacrificing for college football. I don’t fault the athletes. Now are there kinks to get worked out in the shift, 100%. But the justifications are completely warranted.
Saban was/is an adult doing a job not a college kid getting a free ride that most kids in America will never get a shot at.
Huh this doesn’t make sense. Ur paying a coach that has a family. That’s been winning for 17 years. Compared to a 18 year old getting paid mills to do what they supposed to do.
@@robnolte2547thing is at 17-18 years old many think they making it to the pro and it the coach saban that holding them back. parents friends media all in these kids ears talking them up to greatness when they need time to develop.
@@brob7427 do what they're supposed to do? They're supposed to play football? What are you talking about
Nebraska hired TCU’s former GM
Thought scholarships were one year renewable contracts... Now the players have the option to stay or leave alongside the university and this is a problem?
Considering that these universities would hold players hostage and not allow them to transfer, I’m a fan of the transfer portal. I think it helps create more parity by not allowing these powerhouses to just hoard all the best players. The NIL aspect is absolutely wild though. Essentially the universities who have the richest boosters are going to be the only competitive teams.
I am okay with the NIL but the transfer portal needs some restructuring. Perhaps allowing transfers without sitting out for a year if their coach leaves or is fired. But if the coach is staying and they just want to transfer then they have to sit a year without playing for their new team
Every college has rich boosters.
@@korryjones7371Not to the same degree. Texas and USC are gonna have way more rich alumni than a school like Alabama.
@@rickyb1211 You sure about that??
Those schools with the richest boosters were already the most competitive teams though. They have belonged in their own division for a long time, but want meat fodder to fill their schedules with, and noncompetitive schools leap at the chance to get a shot at a slice of those juicy broadcasting contracts.
I think the problem Saban actually has is that the smaller programs now have a bit more leverage to recruit players instead of everyone selling their soul for a shot at being a backup at a place like Bama.
College football needs to pull scholarships for any player receiving INL - PERIOD. Let them play and pay full tuition to go to school.
1. Who says they are giving these kids scholarships?
2. If they are getting scholarships, then they met the criterion. Are you saying scholarships are being handed out to kids that don't meet the criteria?
Yeah, those compensation packages of bonuses and perks should only be reserved for rich, white old men in the boardroom that aren't even the product fans tune into see.
You can't fix it, the Pandoras box is open. The only way you fix is make the player commit to the school for at least two years and pay the NIL amount over that 24 months. You leave you pay the NIL group back
How would that work? The NIL group may not be officially part of the college. Unless you specify some sort of 3 way contract but even that doesn't stop some other unaffiliated NIL group coming in to offer to pay them without such a contract commitment. The NCAA can't discriminate against the NIL signed guys without running afoul of court rulings.
@stevenclark5173 Comtract between the player and the NIL. Player leaves they go after the Player to recoup the money
@@Gtrips07bingo people won't like it but that's where we're at. Players will enter into a contract and those that break it will find themselves in claims having to pay the 10s, 100s or millions owed.
This is why I started watching Hockey. The players just don’t have that same sense of entitlement.
Certain type of old dude can't sit in his ivory tower and be the king... so he quits... Screw that dude. Get these kids that WANT to play paid like they should.
He just can't be the king of the plantation any longer. It's not the kids behavior after the season. It's the fact that they aren't going for his BS... bcuz HE GETS PAID a mint and doesn't want his players to get a piece. Beat it then sucka.
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The Pandora's Box has been opened. There's no telling what college football will look like in 3 or 4 years...or maybe sooner. But you know what? Fans will still watch college football because we love it. And every Saturday starts with College Gameday.