Ken Shamrock on WWE & Pro Wrestling Being More Damaging to His Body Than MMA (Part 16)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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In this clip, Ken Shamrock opened up about sustaining more injuries in the pro-wrestling ring as opposed to the time he spent in MMA. Shamrock said he's incentivized to end an MMA fight as early as possible, whereas the scripted nature of pro-wrestling required him to "give up his body." He noted that pro-wrestlers are so offended by their "sport" being called fake because of the amount of torture they put their bodies through to entertain the audience.
Like I always say about wrestling.... you can't fake falling
Exactly, in mma the idea is to not get hit, in wrestling the idea is to take the hit
@@BROSoftheFU facts!
@Yo Mama’s A Funky Hoe! you see a lot of the Japanese MMA/pro wrestlers can’t walk hardly.
Exactly you can't fake gravity, those guys and girls put their bodies through alot
Not to mention they on the road yr round
💯 respect to Ken for being an open and honest and very real individual in and outside the ring
I would always tell people who say wrestling is fake to use the word scripted instead. The matches are pre determined as the fight itself is a show but the show happens to be a full contact sport where injuries occur daily. Professional wrestlers put their body's on the line for our entertainment every time they have a match so I give respect and I don't use the word fake.
Sounds like It's still real to u, dammit.
@@soitsanightmareit will always be real to me damnit
@@jadoc3767😂
The wrestlers were working 300+ days a year back in the good old days. That’s crazy to think about.
Cocain baby !
Brutal schedule
and coke was their choice
@Khalim Hannah But the wrestlers suck nowadays compared to the good old days.
@@sjf1981 don't forget about somas and pain pills
That was a dead on assessment of the Jake Paul vs Silva boxing match. Ken needs to be involved in some sort of mma promotion as an analyst or something. This guys breathes mma and has the look and verbal skills to do amazing in some role like that
Bro I was thinking the same thing
Always found it weird how UFC doesn't acknowledge him often....
Great interview Vlad
The legend shamrock
Love his energy and honesty and how much he shared
Spot on. Great interview! Thanks to the Legend Ken Shamrock and Vlad for gettin him on here.
Tito sounded like R2D2 naming all his injuries lol
Damn no wonder all the wrestlers back in the day was on painkillers and roids and so many wrestlers die young
They still are.
@@JJpmfc it's watered down nowadays, they were full blown junkies and real thugs back in the day. now they are like college athletes
Don't forget, they also had a lot of concussions, due to the accumulative damage. A lot of their brains are never the same and honestly irreparable damage occurred.
@@alanguages true getting hit with chairs and falling thru tables doesn’t help either
Vlad: interview Kurt angle! Hes got one helluva story! He won a gold medal, with a broken frickin NECK!
It's a true.... it's damn true
I just don't think people call wrestling fake anymore.
People now understand the punishment they take
Ask Joe Rogan...during his interview with Undertaker he was low key taking shots at Rogen from his fake comments about it
@@jetla22 That's hard to believe. I think Joe has to know what pro wrestlers go through.
In fact pro wrestlers go through more than any pro athletes.
You could be right but maybe it was out of context
@@keithgreer462 hard to believe? I'm literally bringing up what he says on camera. He always clowning wrestling so when he interviewed Undertaker he was kissing his ass but Undertaker seemed to see through it.
@@jetla22 That's just nutz if he did. Maybe Joe don't like that it's scripted
It's still fake the outcomes are pre determined , the punches are not real . What's real is moves that they "allow to happen" as shamrock says.
9:30 - Ken and I are about the same age. He's completely right about the split second. That same thinking applies to mountain biking, for example. That tiny sliver of slower reflexes is the difference between a great thrill of speed you had at 38, and a horrible crash at 58.
MMA you can control yourself from falling. Pro wrestling it’s planned and you gotta do it.
Not only the bumps but the travel as well. They’re basically truck drivers too. After the show they gotta drive 4-6 hrs to the next city for the next event. They doin more driving than wrestling. No tour bus.
Hell drive with other talent or talent carpool. Cornette told stories
According to Ken Shemrock
MMA is like formula one racing , its dangerous but you have the ability to avoid accidents but there are accidents that can be avoided based on experience like MMA fighters have the ability to finish their opponents
WWE is like being in monster trucks or bumping cars , people pay to see collisions and pure car chaos just like being slammed or taking bumps
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And people still want to call pro wrestling "FAKE" 😂😂
Because it is.
The only reason people still use the it's fake excuse is based on the pre determined outcomes and occasionally obvious pulled punches but regardless 0f that pro wrestling destroys you everything ken said is true
But no matter what you'll always run into a buzzkill who wants to ruin all the fun
@@travino it's not fake, it's staged.
@@snowbear163 brother tell me this if wrestling wasn't pre determined how would the matches end? Decapitate the opponent lmk
@@travino why don't u get body slammed see if ur tone is still the same pal
As careful as Pro Wrestlers are THESE DAYS, Ken Shamrock could continue to wrestle at his age & still make money and bring business to a product.
Bro you’d think that but they are not. Wrestlers are more reckless than they’ve ever been. Everyone thinks they gotta do a spot fest. Not only is it dangerous but it’s boring. No psychology cause muh Kayfabe is dead.
i think the cm punk presser was kayfabe
Sure there’s Certain ways they do it to make it hurt “less” but doing it enough it’ll still be a lot of punishment on your body. And cause long lasting effects.
Listening to Tito list off those injuries etc sounds like he's listing off a cheat code
Sounds like he's a cyborg
"Wrestling is FAKE! Its no UFC"
Ignorance. They need to watch this video. Ken Shamrock has done it all!
Bro no one thinks they don't get hurt when they say its fake they mean it's staged
@@jordanhtiffirg1990 This foo. I'm quoting what my cousins say. That's what they tell me.
While fighting another man in an MMA fight you don't have much time to stop and think about anything other than the fight.
These WWE wrestlers get pumped up and the whole fuckin crowd is screaming, it's not an option to not jump.
I wish whatever it is thats lingering between WWE and Shamrock can be squashed and he enters the WWE Hall of Fame.
3:55 well they are just different kinds of bumps lmao
Ken literally notarized the Jake Paul vs Anderson Silva fight. Spot on assessment
Of all athletes, pro wrestler Mick Folly has the most injuries. He literally broke every bone in his body.
His tooth was in his ear
@@royalty843And he was SMILING
That is absolutely true that his body definitely got more damaged in pro wrestling not to mention that he took that brutal chair shot to the head from the rock, like a straight up Savage without blocking his face to avoid severe pain and had both his hands behind his back. That was in the good old Attitude Era days which they did and said whatever they wanted!!
Ken “ I was good and could finish a guy in a min or two” Shamrock
Dont tell his girlfriend 😀
Man good times
God bless Ken for sacrificing his body like that for the morbid entertainment of others
I'm sold on his new fighting company. He set that up perfectly
Damn they was playing Operation on Tito Ortiz😮
You can have a UFC match now, and take a long time off. In WWE there is hardly any break.
At 4:00 I think New Jack was the only pro wrestler who WANTED TO HURT his opponent. He just didn't care.
True but at same time he didn't do it to any and everybody. He seemed to only do it when he felt disrespected.
He only hurt those he didn't like.
He had the look, the swagger and the skills. Ken Shamrock was the Mike Tyson of MMA.
No he wasn't lol
Fernando that guy is a super casual
@@jimcornette4420 🤣
Damm good interview
I don't mind these exhibition matches between Tubers and actual fighters, what's corny is guys like Jake who boast so much about the wins when they in fact are exhibition matches. IMO Jake's only tough fight he won was Tyron because Tyron is still somewhat young and not too far out of the game. That was a good KO..Askren can't punch and we all knew that..and Silva is at an age where he's just not going to go that hard. He coasted the last couple years of his career..to me when he gets an actual boxer and beats him that's the solidification he needs to shut everyone up.
Ask Big E if wraslin is fake...that broken neck he suffered looked painful and real to me, I know it's real for him and all the fake wraslers, in the old days sometimes the wraslers didn't know who'd win the match, the refs called the spots or the "senoir" wrasler, Hogan said he had no idea he was really gonna beat Andre until Andre started calling the finish for Hogan, he told Hogan when to slam and when to drop the leg for the pin.
Hogan, probably the most notoriously prolific liar in the history of professional wrestling.. He especially loves lies involving people that aren’t around anymore to dispute his lies, although they’re still provable lies, as you can see in the hours of videos exposing his lies.
@@booognish if you rewatch that match, you can kinda see where Andre is calling the spots, I've been watching wrestling since 1978, I know hogan's rep, even a broken clock is correct twice a day bro, even a liar can speak the truth.
i have so much respect 4 pro. wrestlers... 😔💔
Same
Damn, no New Jack flashback 😂
Great interview!
Interview jeff hardy
Please
And Ron the Truth
🗣️Facts 💯
Ok people don’t say it’s not punishable on the body. Their saying the outcome is fake.
Im glad these pro wrestlers are clearing up the "Wrestling is fake" BS
The competition aspect is fake. The winner is predetermined. The pain these guys go through is real though.
It’s not BS though. The ones that say that are usually parents telling their kids not to get too emotional about the results which are predetermined anyway. They never get specific about which aspects are fake. Cant deny they are athletes and are jumping and landing etc.
They have been clearing it up for the last fifty years .
@@retrogamerockstar4334 U know wat I meant
They are like stuntmen in a movie 🤷🏽♂️
No telling how many of the older guys have CTE like Chris Benoit.
All the chairshots back then in WWE (especially the 90s & 00s)
Right.
Ken never gets the credit he deserves for being part of the attitude era.
Mma fighters fight what 4 times a year maybe? Wrestlers are performing sometimes twice always traveling never sleeping well still working out as much or more than any fighter. Having to hold back when fighting and allowing people to hit and slam you around. Say what you want about wrestling being scripted but they are still takig hits and falls
Mma fighter fight for 2 time, 3 time max
While pro wrestler wrestler for 250+ time a year
Get your fact right
Why do so many people get it confused by the "wrestling is fake" comment. What people mean when they say that is: it's not a competitive sport like the UFC where the better wrestler wins. The matches are scripted. Nobody is dumb enough to claim (I hope) that a body slam was fake. They do however fake a lot of the punches to the face. They have to, because otherwise; every wrestler would have black eyes and a broken nose. But I'm sure every now and then, what was supposed to be a fake punch to the face, connects by accident. That's what people mean when they say wrestling is fake. We all know the body takes a beaten with the slams, tumbles, and collisions.
Those bumps ain’t nothing fake, even the best can’t save from all the pain and they try to protect you on impact so they don’t kill you but yeah it’s some harsh stuff.
I remember when Ken Shamrock wanted to fight Mike Tyson
It would either been amazing, or it would suck.
I mean Ken shamrock is a LEGIT ufc fighter so he’s not afraid of nobody.
Wow, Ken called it. Right about Silva vs jake
It's scripted and predetermined, however what's not predetermined is the risk. Many of time story's had to change due to injury in an angle.
Used to tell my dad this all the time. He could never see the punishment the guys in pro wrestling take, with no off season, was far worse than boxers or other sports.
Living on the road is rough - I made $3.5k/week - and that was a shitload of money (to me) I couldn’t imagine making millions - flying first class or just flying at all vs driving - nice hotels vs a hole in the wall … but then comes the surgeries for these guys , which I did NOT have to do 🙏🏽… but these guys go thru hell, there’s def the pros and cons as mentioned above but still - I’m sure we ALL would rather do what they do vs what I did
What do you do for a living? We’re you a wrestler too?
@@Myeternalperspective man, I freaking wish ..! But I set telephone poles
@@spangdeez498 Nice, $3.5K/Wk is a lot of money.
Ohh at first I thought he meant like “bumps “ 👃🏽 🔑 lol
Ortiz Bionicle man for real
11:28 oh, I don't know. Maybe...BROCK LESNER?!
I believe him. I watched during the Attitude Era and Ken was taking a ton of punishment in 98 in 99 every other week on raw. Dude was getting splashed by Mark Henry and Viscera and getting hit upside the head with chairs by the Rock.
First time I saw shamrock was in kickboxer movie when I was a kid and I was legit scared of him.
Owen wanted to do that stunt, but it the safety guys should have checked that rope. And Owen was a kinda big at that point they should have hooked like two ropes onto that guy.
We wanna see Jake Paul vs vitor Belford, someone who actually has a boxing background
Dude... well, at least he got the best outlet out of it.
Can we get booker t
Everyone is just going to fight in fighting Irish stance again tho. Trying not to break their hands. Unless there’s submission it’s going to be old timey
Are you ever gonna get to frank shamrock rivalry?
Lol could you imagine if the undertaker threw mankind off the cage and then choke slammed him 3 or 4 times at random house shows before the ppv
Valor sounds like the coliseum of old where gladiators fought
You should interview Rvd
People understand what he is saying about the numbers coming in from Jake Paul but he should understand the anger is more about Paul picking fights
Holy shit he’s 59, he’s looking great. Someone was talkin shot somewhere else about how he’s fell off, but wtf the guy is almost SIXTY, and he looks great!!
Kamala 🇺🇬. Ken shamock. And demolition. Are not. In the wwe hof……. Drew carey is. Let that sink in. 💯
Why do i have a feeling Vlad is gonna bring up something Michael Jai White said in this interview lol
I helped build rings for wwe events and I was surprised that the rings are actual all wood there's no padding or anything
A very light tarp over the wood.
Starting at 3:49...oh they're taking bumps...only difference it's backstage or in the comfort of their tour bus 😉
The thing I am most sick and tired of hearing, "wrestling is fake"
Seems like an awesome dude 💯
RIP Pakilika
RIP Saint Dog
It wasn't ever about it being fake more the peoples stories it's a male/kid drama show with punishment to the body for your enjoyment just enjoy what all these guys and gals done for their fans and the entertainment
So Tito explained how hurt he got in Mma and vlads talking to shamrock about how wrestling is more damaging. What is the point your trying to make? Both sports hurt let’s move on it’s 2022 if you don’t know this by now do your homework cause this video isn’t news.
Am I the only one who sees Robert deniro 😂
Off subject does anyone know what kind of glasses he has? They look fresh af to me 🤓
He’s right
Ken had a major influence on me and my high school wrestling career growing up in the early 90's. I did one cage fight and almost broke the dudes neck when I shot in, double legged, lifted him up and dumped him on his head. That was in 99 and after that Kens influence wore off and i got into partying. The end
Was MMA big in your area in ‘99? I remember back then MMA/Cage fighting was on the cusp of superstardom. It was like that for a few years prior as well.
oh there takin bumps alright *sniff* *sniff*
"I could finish a guy in a minute"
And people said wrestling is fake lol
Ask Jeff harden next
Hardy?
Adults arguing that shit is real 😂
GET OUTTA MY WAY!
The age is true when you get older your brain tells your body to move the body says what and you don't slip the punch like you once did
never understood why they don't just pad the ring better and add fake mat noises
If vlad paid attention to his interview, don Frye said the same thing
Its also that in WWE you perform 3-5 times a week while in UFC you only fight 3 times a year.
Not all the athletes do but yes much respect tho
@@franklinmardy8171 Well I mean Cowboy Cerrone would fight like 5 times a year but even that is the absolute most a fighter competes.
um... rockstars dont take bumps? lol
👃i beg to differ
Vlad, it’s this guy named Brock Lesnar who was the best ever at transitioning from wrestling to UFC
Ric Flair is Goated
the bumps are real. its night after night
I wrestled in high school an college. I also played football my whole life. I took way more damage wrestling.
Same, my neck and back will forever be fucked form wrestling
Owen Hart, dead! Droz, paralyzed by D'Lo Brown botch on running powerbomb, Scott Steiner almost died in Puerto Rico after being kicked in the throat, Rey Mysterio accidentally killed a wrestler in the ring. There are many many more stories. I would NEVER say wrestling is "FAKE"!
Too many commercials
beware of organized gangstalking!