Where two oceans meet, debunked

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
  • Cape Reinga, at the very northern tip of New Zealand, is known for being where the Tasman Sea meets the Pacific Ocean, where two oceans collide. The truth, though, is a little more complicated than that.
    Thanks to Dr Simon Clark for helping proofread my script: / simonoxfphys - any errors are mine, not his!
    Current visualisation from earth.nullschoo... , used with permission
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  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo  5 років тому +9031

    Thanks to Dr Simon Clark for proofreading my script; there's a link to his channel in the description! Also, I realised that I pronounced Reinga as /reɪ'iŋgə/ when it should be something close to /'/riˈæŋə/; apologies, in the moment I reverted to full-English-tourist mode and forgot!

    • @ascentfevers
      @ascentfevers 5 років тому +17

      wew

    • @EmanuelFrias
      @EmanuelFrias 5 років тому +129

      Ah, I've always had this problem with the name.

    • @GermaphobeMusic
      @GermaphobeMusic 5 років тому +259

      hEy iT's ThAt YoGsCaST gUy

    • @Jaxie32
      @Jaxie32 5 років тому +3

      👍

    • @patjohbra
      @patjohbra 5 років тому +166

      @@GermaphobeMusic Did you know he's a doctor

  • @MrGamerdrengen
    @MrGamerdrengen 5 років тому +37985

    I always thought that "two oceans meeting" sounded weird, since the earth really only has one ocean that we have just artificially divided with invisible borders.

    • @johnromanas
      @johnromanas 5 років тому +1953

      Different oceans do have somewhat different water constituents right?

    • @MrGamerdrengen
      @MrGamerdrengen 5 років тому +4793

      @@johnromanas They probably do, but I doubt it's divided the same way we've divided them with names.

    • @madabouthollyoaks411
      @madabouthollyoaks411 5 років тому +1743

      It’s not quite artificially divided, yes it all mixes at some point but sometimes the criteria to assign an entity to a mass of water is geographical/physical (currents of water with different temperature, salinity, etc.), and other times it is more political (like with Mediterranean or Adriatic). There are definitely differences and lines that can be drawn between the oceans because while there is one world ocean, it is not the same across the globe

    • @MrGamerdrengen
      @MrGamerdrengen 5 років тому +382

      @@madabouthollyoaks411 You seem to know a lot about this. Do you know if they have different constituents on different tectonic plates or if it's more reliant on the currents?

    • @madabouthollyoaks411
      @madabouthollyoaks411 5 років тому +605

      Gamerdrengen took some classes in college haha I just really enjoy the topic. It’s a mixture of a lot of things, less to do with the tectonic plate they flow over than salinity, which influences density, wind, which is affected by the rotation of the earth on its axis and the continental plate it blows over, which in turn causes surface circulation, which acts with and against deep ocean circulation. Hope that makes sense, basically it’s a variety of factors that bleed into each other in a cycle, but you could say that the earth’s orbit on its axis and its orbit around the sun are some major influencers

  • @909sickle
    @909sickle 5 років тому +26586

    You have crushed my dreams about a myth that I didn't know existed until 3 minutes ago.

    • @metalbassist33
      @metalbassist33 5 років тому +405

      Even if it's not two seas colliding it still looks amazing on a good day.

    • @pinkyuri5
      @pinkyuri5 5 років тому +21

      Good

    • @ab1577
      @ab1577 5 років тому +16

      witty, i want to be your friend

    • @garlicpepper1334
      @garlicpepper1334 5 років тому +7

      Poignant

    • @xolanivusi3158
      @xolanivusi3158 5 років тому +31

      In South Africa u can see the phenomena of two oceans meet

  • @brianward7550
    @brianward7550 2 роки тому +399

    My brother used to live in the Dominican republic and we've gone to a couple different beach towns there, specifically one at juandolio, one near la Romana. These towns are maybe 30 miles apart, but one is on the Caribbean and one is on the Atlantic the water has different temperature, clarity salinity. You can tell in the way the water foams when the waves break, how high you float when you lay on your back. Very different beaches and but only one province over

    • @vondahe
      @vondahe Рік тому +54

      That’s a good observation. Oceans don’t collide in a frothing inferno because the currents are oblivious to the lines drawn by humans. They do, however, have different characteristics, and mix in large areas. 30 miles should be more than sufficient to notice the characteristics of the Caribbean waters vs the Atlantic Ocean.

    • @camilasofiaperezalcantara774
      @camilasofiaperezalcantara774 Рік тому +6

      From the D.R., hope you liked our country and that you visit again soon :) Viva Quisqueya

    • @albertmendez2262
      @albertmendez2262 Рік тому +7

      I’m from the DR. Juan Dolio and La Romana are both on the Caribbean side of the country, dude.

    • @slovnicurling9808
      @slovnicurling9808 Рік тому +1

      Aaaaaand? It still doesn't look like that when they meet.

    • @oreotheuser
      @oreotheuser Рік тому +8

      @@slovnicurling9808 you didn't get the point

  • @NorthAyase
    @NorthAyase Рік тому +289

    I never once in my life even considered the idea that the 2 oceans were visually different, or their meeting point would be visible.

    • @ebenezermbizvo9845
      @ebenezermbizvo9845 Рік тому +5

      You can see it though in Cape Town when indian and Atlantic but it’s not very dramatic

    • @gkahn9737
      @gkahn9737 Рік тому +6

      Actually, you can see 2 rivers crossing in Brazil, if you search, its just like the image he showed

    • @LoneWombat2126
      @LoneWombat2126 Рік тому +1

      You can actually see the difference if you view the ocean from something like google earth. How do you think birds can fly the distance over oceans without water?

    • @cenchloraadums3143
      @cenchloraadums3143 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ebenezermbizvo9845no, simply no. Did you even watch this video? 😂 Oceans are huge, they might have different characteristics at different regions, but the mixing is gradual and happens over an extremely large area. So you can't see anything really at those "hypothetical boundaries", it's not like right after the boundary suddenly it's a different ocean with waves propagating different side. Even thinking that exists is unbelievably stupid thing...

  • @runarandersen878
    @runarandersen878 5 років тому +13807

    I like these short videos. Not dragging on to be 10 minutes or so. It just answer the question or tell something, simple and understandable.

    • @amerwalker5655
      @amerwalker5655 4 роки тому +171

      But UA-cam is full of that garbage channels which just want to make money and not to inform people properly. That's why YT is slowly dying every year

    • @Coolabhinavsingh9
      @Coolabhinavsingh9 4 роки тому +46

      @@amerwalker5655 Yes, so true. I even showed my appreciation by watching all the ads without skipping them.

    • @danylrusso
      @danylrusso 4 роки тому +5

      @Abhinav Singh ???

    • @mrkakarot5187
      @mrkakarot5187 4 роки тому +21

      Danyl Russo ???

    • @Hxrb
      @Hxrb 4 роки тому +51

      @@danylrusso The longer someone watch the ads, the more that channel got revenue That's how we appreciate our fav creators, by not skipping ads and watch till the end.

  • @Victor-dg6wm
    @Victor-dg6wm 5 років тому +5956

    When you getting out of the swamp biome
    0:16

    • @deanthebakedbean5159
      @deanthebakedbean5159 5 років тому +162

      Agonized Cat
      Forgot my diamonds i have to go back

    • @shadowwsk3507
      @shadowwsk3507 5 років тому +70

      Not gonna build a base there

    • @cffee3288
      @cffee3288 5 років тому +71

      aight boys time to get some mushrooms

    • @RustyyFork
      @RustyyFork 5 років тому +8

      Why would you in the water?

    • @RustyyFork
      @RustyyFork 5 років тому +22

      Slime Farming

  • @pimplehair
    @pimplehair 3 роки тому +20

    It’s fascinating that in the Quran (Islamic Holy Book), one of the words that Allah said to his prophet Muahammad was about these two oceans meeting, mind you this was back in 600 A.C, amazing isnt it?

    • @ThatGuy-dt8fo
      @ThatGuy-dt8fo 3 роки тому +2

      @Aha Aha could you explain more i cant really understand what you are asking for. are u asking for a verse?

    • @iliveinyourwalls5193
      @iliveinyourwalls5193 3 роки тому

      Not really at all.
      Since there isn't multiple oceans in reality, it's all arbitrary.
      You also seem to think that not much was discovered and people were dumb when in reality they already knew and the Indian ocean and Atlantic ocean in the 600'.
      But if it's what makes you believe better then think as you please I guess...

    • @AshVentureOfficial
      @AshVentureOfficial 3 роки тому +6

      @@iliveinyourwalls5193
      It's a proof of prophethood as Muhammad had never travelled to any of these freshwater and saltwater places in his entire life (to the best of my knowledge). So when ppl say that *Muhammad made the Qur'an* it's used to say their claim is false

  • @LB-rb4ej
    @LB-rb4ej Рік тому +14

    The Holy Quran mentioned that there is a barrier between two seas that meet and that they do not transgress. God has said:
    He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress. (Quran, 55:19-20)
    But when the Quran speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the existence of “a forbidding partition” with the barrier. God has said in the Quran:
    He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition. (Quran, 25:53)

  • @sciencekidbj
    @sciencekidbj 5 років тому +9246

    You missed a perfect opportunity.
    "When they say it's where two oceans collide, take it with a grain of salt. "

  • @tpfrecoil2837
    @tpfrecoil2837 4 роки тому +7227

    Humans: *Put's an arbitrary line on the ocean*
    Also Humans: Why isn't our arbitrary line an actual thing?

    • @matineeman3038
      @matineeman3038 4 роки тому +28

      Tanner McNeill So true

    • @SlayerofFiction
      @SlayerofFiction 3 роки тому +322

      I try to explain that to my fellow Montanans regarding wolves, they truly believe Canadian wolves were implanted in Montana. They cannot wrap their tiny brains around the fact Animals have no conce3pt of a border

    • @omarsaletovicprins9632
      @omarsaletovicprins9632 3 роки тому +56

      yup - what you see are only two oceans because we called them two oceans. the body of water is still one.

    • @zab6124
      @zab6124 3 роки тому +22

      @@SlayerofFiction or maybe you dont explain properly

    • @OHYS
      @OHYS 3 роки тому +22

      People are so stupid in this specific way all the time.

  • @moviedewane
    @moviedewane Рік тому +6

    It is mentioned in holy Quran about two different ocean

  • @sundaylights1799
    @sundaylights1799 Рік тому +6

    Quran 55:19-21 (Surah ar-Rahman) “He released the two seas; meeting side by side. Between them is a barrier; neither of them can transgress. Then which is it, of the favors of your Lord, that ye deny?”

  • @zdodops8490
    @zdodops8490 4 роки тому +4417

    How did the oceans meet?They just waved...

    • @Seapin1
      @Seapin1 4 роки тому +111

      That's a good dad joke ☑️ Happy Father's Day (if you're in Australia - it's today, September 6)

    • @azumarzi6305
      @azumarzi6305 3 роки тому +104

      I sea what you did there.

    • @DJ.LakeSea
      @DJ.LakeSea 3 роки тому +102

      Why is the ocean smelly?
      Because the sea weed.

    • @Versuffe
      @Versuffe 3 роки тому +19

      *BADUM TSSS!!!!*

    • @frankiewel82
      @frankiewel82 3 роки тому

      😂🤣😂😂😅😂😂😂😅😂😂😂😅😅😂😂😂😅😂😂😂😂😅😂😂😂😂😂😅😂😂😅😂😂😅😅🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅😅😂😂🤣

  • @henryihaka
    @henryihaka 3 роки тому +18

    The oceans meeting story is not what’s important about Te Rereinga Wairua or Cape Reinga as its commonly known. Te Rereinga Wairua is one of if not the most spiritually sacred places to the Maori people. The story about where 2 oceans meet was conjured up by bus tour operators.

  • @franian77
    @franian77 3 роки тому +11

    This was already mentioned in the Holy Quran 1400 years ago

    • @franian77
      @franian77 3 роки тому +1

      @Okaythan Letsdoit Quran is word of God. Nobody created Quran

    • @franian77
      @franian77 3 роки тому +1

      @Okaythan Letsdoit copied fr which earlier knowledge.

    • @franian77
      @franian77 3 роки тому +5

      @Okaythan Letsdoit Quran doesn't have a sigle mistakes

    • @al2os6oraah36
      @al2os6oraah36 3 роки тому +3

      @Okaythan Letsdoit if there are “mistakes” then because you didn’t understand it right or you dont know the real truth if its a book written by a human why no one came with a book same as it ?

    • @al2os6oraah36
      @al2os6oraah36 3 роки тому +1

      @Okaythan Letsdoit a book if a Quran reader ( or scholar) read will think its Quran too (and the reader (or scholar) dont have to memorize the Quran) there isn’t any book like this

  • @shockthemuscle3898
    @shockthemuscle3898 5 років тому +9833

    I can't tell if this guy is 19 or 38

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg6089 5 років тому +3408

    I've always just assumed oceans are made up, there's one ocean since it's all connected. Names for different areas of water are just to make it easier for us to be a bit more... pacific.

    • @badeugenecops4741
      @badeugenecops4741 4 роки тому +161

      I actually hear people.say "Be pacific." Seriously.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 4 роки тому +56

      Some of them are well connected, some not. The Southern Ocean abuts the Atlantic, Indian and Pacific with no real boundary, but its opposite number, the Arctic Ocean is largely cut off - it is only joined to the Pacific by a small strait. The Pacific is largely cut off from the Atlantic, except for a section between Tierra del Fuego and the Antarctic Peninsula...

    • @josephclegg3562
      @josephclegg3562 4 роки тому +75

      I SEA whatcha saying!

    • @crazydragy4233
      @crazydragy4233 4 роки тому +47

      Anon B Still its one technically a single body of water people divided so it would be easier to understand. Just like most things in nature.

    • @milomhoek
      @milomhoek 4 роки тому +30

      @@anonb4632 the arctic isn't "only joined to the Pacific by a small strait" you have the whole Atlantic that flows into it as well and that section between Tierra del Fuego and the Antarctic Peninsula is at least 1000 km wide

  • @woroGaming
    @woroGaming 2 роки тому +86

    So there are actual rivers flowing through the ocean. That's actually cool in and of itself.

    • @woroGaming
      @woroGaming 2 роки тому +7

      @DONT Ok

    • @lucythemotherofathests1465
      @lucythemotherofathests1465 Рік тому

      Rivers need the flow to the ocean

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 Рік тому

      ​@@lucythemotherofathests1465not necessarily, endorheic basins have no exit so all water will flow doen to the lowest point, The Great Salt Lake in Utah is an example of the resulting lake at the bottom of an endorheic basin. (Called an endoheic lake)

    • @bootymuncherwebb7045
      @bootymuncherwebb7045 Рік тому

      ​@@jasonreed7522nerd!!!!

  • @robotlorekeeper9880
    @robotlorekeeper9880 3 роки тому +4

    That wee “but no” at 0:28 is pure Jonathan Frakes. We gotta get Tom a primetime TV spot.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus 5 років тому +609

    "Sverdrup" - I'd never heard of that unit before!
    Sounds like some kind of syrup that the Swedish Chef would use!

    • @skandinavianskate
      @skandinavianskate 4 роки тому +22

      If you would pronounce it like svärdropp then it would mean ”swearing drop”

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 4 роки тому +12

      Can you use this word in Scrabble though? I want to know.

    • @glass9793
      @glass9793 4 роки тому +17

      Sounds more Norwegian to me, or atleast like a really old Nordic word.

    • @cokie4760
      @cokie4760 4 роки тому +1

      @@glass9793 true

    • @halimhamdian
      @halimhamdian 4 роки тому +8

      Rose: Some people put on flour but i think that makes it too heavy, so i add a sverdrup of mollasses in it... my kids always liked it this way...
      Dorothy: Tell me Rose, does any of your kid still have their own teeth?...

  • @Faolan_Grey
    @Faolan_Grey 4 роки тому +1893

    How to ruin a location's tourist attraction in 3 mins

    • @EmptyPeace
      @EmptyPeace 4 роки тому +8

      If you believe that you're dumb.

    • @General12th
      @General12th 4 роки тому +53

      @@EmptyPeace What if we killed all the dumb people?

    • @beforecuddlybunnylps841
      @beforecuddlybunnylps841 4 роки тому +51

      @@General12th There would be new dumb people made from smart people.

    • @General12th
      @General12th 4 роки тому +30

      @@beforecuddlybunnylps841 What if we tried to solve every problem with murder? 🤔🤔🤔

    • @chrisgriffin9164
      @chrisgriffin9164 3 роки тому +3

      NZ don't want tourist.

  • @itsenergybob8917
    @itsenergybob8917 Рік тому +90

    I always figured there was really just one ocean. Humans only named the various areas. Much like the land as well.

  • @mimiminhajabdullahi5036
    @mimiminhajabdullahi5036 Рік тому +4

    This was mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago. Suratul Al Rahman. Alhamdulilah our Quran is really a miracle for us and Allah owns everything and everyone in this world. Allahuakbar

  • @robezy0
    @robezy0 4 роки тому +443

    Humans: This is where the Pacific and the...
    Nature: It's just water bruh

    • @SebHaarfagre
      @SebHaarfagre 3 роки тому +2

      "Here's some more water, except it's different because it's this water instead"

  • @ryannicholls3662
    @ryannicholls3662 5 років тому +178

    When I saw you on a bus in Auckland a couple of weeks back I knew we were in for at least one NZ video. Good video. :D

    • @mapper7310
      @mapper7310 5 років тому +9

      Ryan Nicholls Ah yes, bloody AT, if only they actually put in good bus bus routes

  • @helloooo6759
    @helloooo6759 3 роки тому +6

    I live in Cape Town, it’s known for table mountain and the two oceans that collide, everything is called like the “two oceans aquarium “ or “two oceans restaurant”

    • @koala1578
      @koala1578 3 роки тому +3

      Ive been there, that one is more definite than this one

    • @KatieBadenhorst
      @KatieBadenhorst 3 роки тому +5

      I also thought this would be about Cape Town 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

  • @randomvintagefilm273
    @randomvintagefilm273 Рік тому +3

    When I went to the Cape of Good Hope near Cape Town, South Africa I saw exactly what those photos showed and you could see a linemof two different colors

  • @fireandcopper
    @fireandcopper 5 років тому +1125

    How do you consistently make very high production quality videos? You're awesome at presentation/education

    • @techalyzer
      @techalyzer 5 років тому +12

      With a shitload of money to travel, you can consistently make quality videos all the time about anything in the world.

    • @lovelybraintoaster164
      @lovelybraintoaster164 5 років тому +124

      Ri Max I know quite a lot of people that got a shitload of money to travel but couldn’t make something worth the very water the creator drank during it, so I’m definitely sure Tom and crew have some very good talents

    • @Asiliea
      @Asiliea 4 роки тому +3

      I would imagine with a lot of experience, skill, rehearsal, and fine tuning of the scripts by involving multiple people who are more knowledgeable than himself in the topic. Certainly how all his videos seem to be to me. Not to mention honesty, altruism, and one insatiable curiosity for the odd bits of the world

    • @comradesusiwolf1599
      @comradesusiwolf1599 2 роки тому

      agency. (research & dev)

    • @mwb6188
      @mwb6188 Рік тому

      Simp

  • @jamesbarker6373
    @jamesbarker6373 5 років тому +452

    Tom Scott makes good videos.
    Sick of 10 minute videos that make 1 point.

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 5 років тому +7

      I agree. I've only found his channel in the last hour (from ElectroBOOM's video on HVDC) but it's a breath of fresh air.

    • @jamesbarker6373
      @jamesbarker6373 5 років тому +2

      @@TonyRule That fly got me dammit. Had to scroll a few times to see if it was real or not

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 5 років тому +2

      @@jamesbarker6373 No flies on you, mate!

    • @freds2150
      @freds2150 4 роки тому +3

      lmao if you somehow like BRIGHT SIDE they usually post false content plus its always at least 10 minutes in fact ive found a couple 10:01 minute BRIGHT SIDE vids and all of them prove 1 point.

    • @vivijuno6146
      @vivijuno6146 11 місяців тому

      Tell Tom that there is no Pacific ocean there, it's Indian and Atlantic

  • @shauntheobald8546
    @shauntheobald8546 Рік тому +4

    Been watching quite a bit of Tom Scott recently, and as a Kiwi felt so excited to see New Zealand unexpectedly show up!

  • @fredflintstoner596
    @fredflintstoner596 2 роки тому +10

    Mrs Richards: " I paid for a room with a view!"
    Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
    Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
    Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
    Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
    Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
    Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
    Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?

  • @LostCosmonauts
    @LostCosmonauts 5 років тому +266

    From Cape Reinga to the bluff, there's only one feed that's good enough...
    It's Tux, keeps 'em full of life - fit as a fiddle, sharp as a knife.

  • @birdieanimationproductions7452
    @birdieanimationproductions7452 5 років тому +803

    This guy looks like 50 and 20 at the same time

  • @crazywyvern4704
    @crazywyvern4704 3 роки тому +100

    Oceans are literally just how humans decided them, it’s all one body of water

    • @jamesross160
      @jamesross160 3 роки тому +2

      You've just never seen it with your own eyes

    • @jamesross160
      @jamesross160 3 роки тому +2

      @@vernbaa yep glass bridge in bahamas

    • @philipfresco
      @philipfresco 3 роки тому +2

      @@jamesross160 aren’t you special

    • @jamesross160
      @jamesross160 3 роки тому +6

      @@philipfresco possibly, but not the type of special people refer to you as.

    • @shapsugh1864
      @shapsugh1864 3 роки тому +4

      I mean... I can say the same thing about land....

  • @honeybeejelly4727
    @honeybeejelly4727 Рік тому +1

    Only Tom Scott travels half way around the world for a 3 minute UA-cam video

  • @bushyman477
    @bushyman477 5 років тому +349

    Absolutely love it when little old New Zealand is featured, almost anywhere on UA-cam 😍

    • @gnuthad
      @gnuthad 5 років тому +61

      Don't try to kid us all. You're happy when NZ features on a map of the world.

    • @alihajiya2572
      @alihajiya2572 5 років тому +10

      I’d love to see a new old zealand featured for once.

    • @ethangilchrist3534
      @ethangilchrist3534 5 років тому +15

      Kiwis are great, all three kinds

    • @keemstarkreamstar7069
      @keemstarkreamstar7069 5 років тому +2

      Bushy Raps “old New Zealand”

    • @bushyman477
      @bushyman477 5 років тому

      @@keemstarkreamstar7069 ?

  • @VAULT-TEC_INC.
    @VAULT-TEC_INC. 4 роки тому +116

    Cape Reinga’s tourist based economy never fully recovered after this video posted.

  • @dumbbiiihh1204
    @dumbbiiihh1204 Рік тому +60

    i love his videos! just the straight facts. i’m holding him to the same level of David Attenborough

  • @marcusihme9357
    @marcusihme9357 3 роки тому +20

    Well I’ve just been to “Skagen” in Denmark - and you can clearly watch the difference between waves on the west side and east side when standing on the tip. They are much more violent on the west side. You can also clearly see the waves collide at the tip :)

    • @ummerfarooq5383
      @ummerfarooq5383 2 роки тому

      He's saying that because some old book says it's over there, it's debunked. ... I don't think old chronicles are used for such records.

    • @simp108
      @simp108 2 роки тому +7

      That would be really cool, but it might have been because the waves on one side of the peninsular had a different fetch length to the waves on the other. This would cause different wave sizes. I'm no geography expert, but it seems to me that this phenomenon wasn't due to an arbitrary line, rather different conditions which were directly caused by the fact that 'Skagen' is a peninsula. Hope this helps :)

  • @shmuelechad
    @shmuelechad 5 років тому +25

    Tom I adore your videos, your insistence on well researched material and always surprising nuggets of knowledge should owe you your own BBC documentary series.

  • @zsszeli
    @zsszeli 4 роки тому +50

    Most of the times I’m not sure if Tom uses green background, or not.

  • @impendio
    @impendio Рік тому +16

    My exact feelings earlier this year when I went to Cap Spartel in Morocco, supposedly the border between the Mediterranean and the Atlantic. Maybe there’s a specific point where the plates meet and you could consider such distinctions from that point of view, but for the people selling stuff outside the museum or taking pictures in the signpost, it’s just local mythology.

    • @mahixxx3076
      @mahixxx3076 Рік тому

      Scientifically, because of the difference in the salinity and densities of these two water bodies, a surface tension developed between them that acts like a thin wall which prevents them from mixing. If you see the oceans from the airplane, it is visible.

  • @Bayard1503
    @Bayard1503 Рік тому +9

    The biggest surprise here for me is that the Tasman Sea is not part of the Pacific

  • @artistjoh
    @artistjoh 5 років тому +68

    The day I was at Cape Reinga there was a strong color line, virtually straight, with dark grey on the Tasman Sea side and a blue/green on the Pacific Ocean side. It made the myth seem so very believable, considering the Tasman’s foul reputation, and the perception of the ‘pacificness’ of the Pacific. Curious how the local conditions would produce such a distinct color difference. I must point out that I have also sailed around here on a liner some years later, and there was no color difference that day.
    I just googled ‘Cape Reinga Pacific meets Tasman’ and there are lots of photographs of a straight line with a color difference in the water, although most seem to be the opposite to what I saw, with blue on the Tasman side and darker, more grey color on the Pacific side. It makes me wonder if there is sand on the seafloor one side, and rock on the other, or perhaps an edge where the water gets a lot deeper the other side of the line. The waves breaking indicate currents meeting which could account for differences in deposition of sand or differences in water clarity, temperature, etc that could lead to color differences.

    • @mikielgrato5705
      @mikielgrato5705 Рік тому +3

      When I was a kid I went to the tip of Africa in cape town south Africa, I remember seeing the divide in a picture book before going and was disappointed to see that it wasn't so in real life, the tour guide however, informed us that it may be the weather that decides if the line is visible or not, "sometimes you see it sometimes you don't" he said

    • @artistjoh
      @artistjoh Рік тому +4

      @@mikielgrato5705 It is not surprising that there would be different ocean currents on two different coasts, and that alone can cause weather differences each side, and again, different weather causing different surface conditions and water clarity leading to different visual conditions on different days. One thing is certain - there is no line in the water that delineates any kind of boundary drawn on a map.

    • @shintenkai1648
      @shintenkai1648 Рік тому +2

      ​​@@mikielgrato5705 being someone who grew up in S.A cape town. Myths are good for tourism. "The weather determines whether you see it or not" is the evidence you need to realise that it's the weather that causes sedament to stir up and gives the ocean the visuals of there being a line in the ocean.
      *did you know you can see the flying dutchman from the cape coast too*
      Doesn't make it real.

    • @MajeekaRevel
      @MajeekaRevel Рік тому +1

      I saw the divide when i was there

  • @neyoshu
    @neyoshu 4 роки тому +19

    I love how Tom is the only person to make a really unsatisfying answer be a really satisfying end to a video

  • @sonnelighting3565
    @sonnelighting3565 Рік тому +1

    I wish I got to meet you when you were here. I've seen Cape Rianga with the seas meeting and it was two totally different shades of green, one more brown with a big line heading out in the ocean as far as I could see. You got it on a bad day.

  • @gandalfthesith9731
    @gandalfthesith9731 3 роки тому +9

    This video felt so much longer than it really was.

  • @randomizednamme
    @randomizednamme 4 роки тому +22

    I’m more amazed how you got shots without a bunch of tourists

    • @PMA65537
      @PMA65537 3 роки тому

      There is software to do this merging many stills to show all the background and no crowd.

    • @randomizednamme
      @randomizednamme 3 роки тому

      @@vernbaa When I went there it was so busy that there wouldn't have been a chance but maybe there is less tourism in certain parts of the year.

  • @al35mm
    @al35mm 5 років тому +12

    The turbulent water behind you appears to be what us nautical types refer to as a "tidal race". You often get them off points of land where the tidal flow is disturbed and can also be made worse by wind, causing what is known as a "confused sea" where you get choppy waves travelling in different directions.

    • @ratguy69
      @ratguy69 Рік тому

      I found a depth map of this area a few years ago, as I was also trying to debunk the whole “two oceans meeting” thing. There’s a shallow area right where all the waves are breaking.

  • @cjod33
    @cjod33 Рік тому +8

    Growing up around Pittwater (where the Hawkesbury River system meets the ocean) it was so common to see exactly this.

  • @Veronicz
    @Veronicz 3 роки тому +19

    Do people not realize those are just names we gave them? They’re not two separate things.

    • @iamjailab
      @iamjailab 3 роки тому +3

      Well technically one has a higher salt content so it kinda is separate. It’s all one body of ocean but it’s definitely divided

  • @XDTVreloadet
    @XDTVreloadet 5 років тому +54

    I was in Skagen, Denmark once, where two bodies of water met (the north sea and the baltic sea). It was spectacular and it really looked like two sperate bodies colliding in the middle

    • @HepauDK
      @HepauDK Рік тому +1

      The oceans that meet off Skagen are Skagerak (part of the North Sea) and Kattegat. The Baltic Sea is at the other end of Denmark, and you'd have to pass through either Lillebælt (the pass between Jutland and Funen), Storebælt (between Funen and Sealand) or Øresund (between Sealand and Sweden) to get there.

  • @DemMedHornene
    @DemMedHornene 5 років тому +41

    In Denmark, at the tip of "Skagen" (the northern most region of the Jutland peninsula), it is said that the two seas, the Kattegat and Skagerrak, collide. If you look at pictures from high above the area, there are clearly two distinctly different coloured oceans, demarcated by the white line that the two colliding set of waves form, which makes me wonder what you'd say about that, and whether or not those are actually two seas colliding or not.

    • @mabs503
      @mabs503 5 років тому +6

      And the sea plus currents around Grenen, the utmost tip, can be quite rough at times, so it's better to go further out when it's windy. BTW, it's a really nice area to visit. Hope to sail there this summer. /Nabo fra Gøteborg

  • @fabiocf3708
    @fabiocf3708 Рік тому +1

    I've seen this separation of water masses in many places in the oceans. Just different water masses. Colour, transparency, a little foam separating them. It's nice.

  • @MichaelReznoR
    @MichaelReznoR 2 роки тому +2

    When something sounds too simple, I have instant alarm bells in my head going "The universe is _probably_ much more complicated".

  • @schmoyoho
    @schmoyoho 5 років тому +231

    next thing you know Tom will tell us that megaladons are extinct, I WANNA BELIEVE IN MAGIC 😤😤😤
    jk, 10/10 video, will still visit New Zealand

  •  5 років тому +13

    Thank you Tom Scott for making me smarter every week with a bit of information that I didn't know I didn't know about.

  • @Mc.Knight
    @Mc.Knight Рік тому +1

    It's mind boggling how many hours of googling you save us. Thank goodness for you ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @abigaillubbee979
    @abigaillubbee979 2 роки тому +1

    The same is said about the Atlantic meeting the Indian Ocean at Cape Point, South Africa. Sending love to you Tom, from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @RealSalica
    @RealSalica 5 років тому +4

    I really enjoy every minutes of your videos . You always talk about interesting subjects that are often unknown by most of us .

  • @ninetynine_not_out
    @ninetynine_not_out 5 років тому +51

    Fun fact. The Islamic religious book (Koran), from around 1400 years ago, told of this phenomenon superficially.

    • @afjalhossain6970
      @afjalhossain6970 5 років тому +2

      Amazing isn't it

    • @masontyson
      @masontyson 5 років тому +11

      So basically Quran just got debunked

    • @user-rr9gh5ko1c
      @user-rr9gh5ko1c 5 років тому +2

      @@masontyson : how's so ?

    • @ninetynine_not_out
      @ninetynine_not_out 5 років тому +3

      @@masontyson Clarification. The Koran only mentions existence. The actual scientific explanation is not there. (Like the Koran also tells of the developmental stages of the embryo, but not in the way we know it today.)

    • @vengefulavenger422
      @vengefulavenger422 5 років тому +2

      mason tyson the quran doesn’t mention the tasman sea, so this video does not address it

  • @johnathanmichaels5249
    @johnathanmichaels5249 3 роки тому +2

    The Pacific and the Atlantic do not have different salinity or colour, so when seas “meet” it’s just a human defining the set out boundary of a named sea with another named sea. (Fresh water meeting sea water can have a very noticeable effect, or very strong saline “lakes” at the bottom of some oceans where the ocean above does not mix with very concentrated salty “lake” at the sea floor). But “oceans meeting” is just a phrase that sets out a geographical boundary, not a physical junction of the same mass of sea that covers the whole planet).

  • @ObjectsInMotion
    @ObjectsInMotion 5 років тому +40

    Really missed the opportunity to end with “the idea that two oceans meet here, just doesn’t hold any water.”

    • @thermochrome
      @thermochrome 3 роки тому +2

      ah my long lost brother! what a nice pun.

    • @thermochrome
      @thermochrome 3 роки тому +1

      ive been looking for years.

  • @jimobrien919
    @jimobrien919 4 роки тому +17

    Have you ever been to the the very northern tip of Jutland in Denmark? Amazing place! It's a place where the Baltic and the North Sea meet. You can walk out onto the sand and stick one foot in each sea. The waves are usually crashing into each from opposite directions too. Very cool to see.

    • @janmamu8721
      @janmamu8721 2 роки тому

      no :(

    • @cbarnes2160
      @cbarnes2160 2 роки тому +4

      Did you listen to anything he said in the video?

  • @max_zazu
    @max_zazu 3 роки тому +1

    Same as Cape Point, South Africa. Actual meeting point of the Atlantic & Indian is at Cape Agulhas, many kms away. But Cape Point is more convenient and tourist friendly!

  • @Khensii_hlungs
    @Khensii_hlungs 3 роки тому +5

    you should go to cape town ,cape point is where you'll actually see where the Indian and Atlantic Ocean meet but don't meet .it is really fascinating. the reason they don't mix is because of the difference in water density , temperature and salinity of the glacial melt water making it difficult to mix . same with the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean.

    • @Stephen_Platt
      @Stephen_Platt 3 роки тому

      Next video is gonna be debunking this now 😉

    • @StanbyMode
      @StanbyMode 3 роки тому

      I highly doubt it

  • @Mikesco10
    @Mikesco10 5 років тому +301

    مَرَجَ الْبَحْرَيْنِ يَلْتَقِيَانِ۝ بَيْنَهُمَا بَرْزَخٌ لا يَبْغِيَانِ

    • @m6narch
      @m6narch 5 років тому +100

      S B
      I dont know arabic
      But this thing is written in holy quran 1400 years ago
      That is a good fact

    • @oskaveli662
      @oskaveli662 5 років тому +75

      What does your keyboard look like?

    • @cadnaanstudio
      @cadnaanstudio 5 років тому +10

      @@oskaveli662 you made me laugh

    • @Mikesco10
      @Mikesco10 5 років тому +28

      @@oskaveli662 Arabic keyboard go to settings and try it :)

    • @Jordannadroj20
      @Jordannadroj20 5 років тому +7

      Hello Arrival Alien

  • @panda4247
    @panda4247 5 років тому +7

    1:18 - you said it is 1M m^3 moving 1m/s
    but that would be 1M m^4.s^-1
    you wrote correctly, it is 1M m^3.s^-1 - as it is one million cubit meters per second; or you can imagine it as plate 1km wide and 1km deep moving at speed of 1m/s

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 5 років тому +1

      Thank you! So a sheet of area 1 million *square* metres moving at 1 metre per second. (Or anything that multiplies up to that.)

  • @Natalie-qb6pj
    @Natalie-qb6pj 3 роки тому +53

    In Denmark we actually have something like a place where ‘two oceans meets’. It’s the two oceans called Skagerak and Kattegat. It’s very fascinating

    • @Mashfi23
      @Mashfi23 3 роки тому

      Nice

    • @slovnicurling9808
      @slovnicurling9808 Рік тому +3

      Denmark lies in only one ocean. Maybe you meant sea? But still I don't have to see it to know it will NOT look like that anyway.

    • @funnyfolk
      @funnyfolk Рік тому +2

      @@slovnicurling9808 Denmark and ocean? Which one ?

    • @mudi228
      @mudi228 Рік тому +1

      @@slovnicurling9808 I Danish the word for ocean and sea is the same, hence your confusion

    • @jacobmrsk-mller3900
      @jacobmrsk-mller3900 Рік тому

      @@mudi228 sea and ocean arent the same word in danish

  • @Danny30011980
    @Danny30011980 2 роки тому +5

    I like these weird-geography videos, very interesting. I also find interesting where rivers meet and how they could have different colours. You can see that in Passau, Germany where Inn and Ilz flow into the Danube and each of them have a different colour

  • @matthewtheobald1231
    @matthewtheobald1231 4 роки тому +10

    There's only 1 ocean. We humans just make up borders and divisions that don't actually exist. We do this with a lot of things, not just geography

    • @adamdaif4246
      @adamdaif4246 3 роки тому +6

      Not really tho there are difference in the oceans and you are wrong but ok

  • @xMuNcHz
    @xMuNcHz 5 років тому +17

    You can also see this in Skagen, Denmark. Here the Baltic sea and North sea meet.

    • @matt1556
      @matt1556 5 років тому

      Not the Baltic Sea, but kattegat and the North Sea***

    • @Viktor-xn3uh
      @Viktor-xn3uh 5 років тому

      Elming More exactly, Skagerrak and Kattegatt

    • @zapid6733
      @zapid6733 5 років тому

      Those are not seas they are adjacent seas. And actually there is no things as 2 seas since all the seas are connected and all to the ocean, and there's no thing as multiple oceans either since all the water is just a gigantic ocean except lakes, ponds etc.

    • @mightyglory6272
      @mightyglory6272 5 років тому +3

      Zapid according to you there is no such thing as countries since they are connected together in a continent which also isn’t a thing since Asia Africa and Europe are connected together except America and Australia

    • @zapid6733
      @zapid6733 5 років тому

      MightyGlory thats not the same thing dummy. Realisticaly, theres not but since humans fought over the land and made the ”borders” itself we have countries. Still not the same thing whatsoever

  • @Normal_user_coniven
    @Normal_user_coniven Рік тому +1

    Maybe you can't see it from down. But, you can see it from airplane or Google Earth, for example: Bahrain Gulf and the Arabic Persian Gulf.
    Also, I feel like I saw the border between the seas from the beach somewhere.

  • @flimsywizard5577
    @flimsywizard5577 2 роки тому +1

    It is a little more obvious at Grenen in Denmark, where Kattegat and Skagerak meets, but it’s honestly still just small waves bumping into each other

  • @EdPratt
    @EdPratt 5 років тому +3

    Never knew that Tom. Great to see the lighthouse looking distinctly less busy than when i arrived on my unicycle in the summer of 2018.
    I guess through my video of the cape I also perpetuated the lie that this is the exact spot where the two oceans meet...oops :) Keep up the great work!

  • @crezupcuz228
    @crezupcuz228 4 роки тому +43

    Forget when two oceans colided, he's two ages colided.

  • @cramps-group
    @cramps-group 3 роки тому +4

    صدقت ربي يا عظيم
    (بينهما برزخ لا يبغيان)
    صدقت يا عظيم يا مالك الملك
    سبحانك ربي خلقت فأبدعت
    اللهم صل و سلم على سيدنا و حبيبنا المصطفى عليه أفضل الصلاة و السلام

  • @denver5093
    @denver5093 3 роки тому +8

    New Zealand's tourism ministry might have sued him after this

  • @JohnJones-ct9pr
    @JohnJones-ct9pr 5 років тому +13

    You need to go to South Africa. You will see two oceans meeting. Because they do.

  • @markuskristensen4330
    @markuskristensen4330 5 років тому +155

    You should go to Skagen, Denmark. Two oceans really colliede there

    • @Tjalve70
      @Tjalve70 5 років тому +37

      Not two oceans. Hardly even two seas.

    • @markuskristensen4330
      @markuskristensen4330 5 років тому +21

      @@Tjalve70 i get your point - however it is much clearer to see than in this video

    • @matthewshepherd5390
      @matthewshepherd5390 5 років тому +16

      I've been there you actually can see the two meeting

    • @markuskristensen4330
      @markuskristensen4330 5 років тому

      @@matthewshepherd5390 in Skagen or the place from the video?

    • @matthewshepherd5390
      @matthewshepherd5390 5 років тому +8

      Skagen it was nearly 10 years ago now but I seem to remember getting some nice ice cream don't know if it was a proper shop or just an ice-cream-van

  • @jliller
    @jliller 3 роки тому +11

    In my local river you can easily see the division between the incoming saltwater and the outgoing freshwater. Here it's not so much sediment (unlike say the Mississippi River) as it is the tannic acid in the water naturally given off by decay vegetation. Particularly common on rivers with lots of trees, especially cypress or mangroves.

  • @oh2mp
    @oh2mp Рік тому +1

    I'm commenting a quite old video, but I really love that kind of sign poles like at 2:28 that show distances to some other places far away. Every time I see one, I take some photos.

  • @Wirenfeldt1990
    @Wirenfeldt1990 5 років тому +46

    I desperately want more Behind the Scenes stuff.. I miss the Park Bench damn it..

  • @Cernoise
    @Cernoise 5 років тому +16

    I’d never heard of this myth despite living in NZ for 24 years. I guess you learn something false every day!

  • @mrabaddon7712
    @mrabaddon7712 Рік тому +2

    Only a human being can be so stupid as to think that there are different oceans. I assure you the fish don't have this problem.

  • @Fayanora
    @Fayanora 3 роки тому +7

    Where two oceans meet is just an imaginary line created by humans. It's really all one big ocean.

  • @DevinZA
    @DevinZA 5 років тому +36

    Came with Cape Point in Cape Town, "meeting of the Indian & Atlantic Oceans", but it's actually Cape Agulhas

    • @MG-kw1kb
      @MG-kw1kb 5 років тому +6

      > Cape Point is where the Atlantic- & Indian-Ocean meets.
      > Cape Agulhas is the Southernmost part of Africa *(but not the spot where the 2 oceans meet)*
      > Both Cape Agulhas & Cape Point are places that fall within the borders of the Western Cape Province.

    • @sheriffabibiessop1444
      @sheriffabibiessop1444 5 років тому +2

      Cape Point in South Africa is where the extremely cold waters of the Atlantic Ocean meet the warm waters of the Indian Ocean. Cold Benguella Current off the west coast meeting the warm Mozambiquen Current off the east coast.

  • @100GTAGUY
    @100GTAGUY 4 роки тому +4

    One really cool phenomenon that occurs in some underground river and aquifers that is essentially where "two different bodies of water meet" is when salt water leeches into the aquifer and cave divers swim through what looks like water swirling in whiskey back into Crystal clear water

  • @ErgonBill
    @ErgonBill 3 роки тому +1

    The tip of Cape York, Ausrtalia, where the Arafura and Coral seas meet, produce some amazing currents whereby there appears to be a definite step of around 30cm in the water under certain conditions.

  • @deejay971
    @deejay971 2 роки тому +1

    Being a professional Fisherman, that disturbance in the water 💧 is tidal slop that is common around capes and anywhere there is a channel like Bass Strait, the Southern Ocean has to squeeze between Victoria and Tasmania and its got nowhere to go but up and it runs like hell.

  • @tedshannon509
    @tedshannon509 4 роки тому +5

    You need to travel to the bottom of western Australia where the India and southern oceans come together.
    I've been there and seen the definite visible difference between the two.

  • @Teraplexor1
    @Teraplexor1 5 років тому +21

    Hope you do more videos based in Oceania in the future 😊

  • @jagadishs
    @jagadishs Рік тому +1

    Hey Tom Scott, there's a place called Dhanushkodi ( also know as Ghost Town) in rameshwaram in TN. Here the Bay of Bengal meets the Indian Ocean and it's a picturesque to witness. The waters of Bay of Bengal are quite calm and those of Indian Ocean are very turbulent. I guess you should witness it.

  • @sciencegirltheai-1minutesc607
    @sciencegirltheai-1minutesc607 3 роки тому +4

    Different oceans are just boundaries arbitrarily drawn by humans through associations with land masses, without any account for the ocean current or mixing

  • @LunarcomplexMain
    @LunarcomplexMain 5 років тому +7

    2:28 Thank god there's a sign there so I know where I'm going

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 5 років тому +14

    You want to really really boggle people's minds, figure out how large a volume of solar wind it would take to equate to a sverdrup.

  • @r.a.2145
    @r.a.2145 3 роки тому +2

    Finally some explanation without some arabic music.

  • @jp1041041
    @jp1041041 2 роки тому +2

    What did one ocean say to another ocean when they met?
    Nothing, they just waved.

    • @Design--om2zx
      @Design--om2zx 2 роки тому

      I heard that million times already

  • @gabbogobbo8825
    @gabbogobbo8825 5 років тому +235

    When you get the 1.14 update in minecraft

    • @worldsmostretardedperson
      @worldsmostretardedperson 5 років тому +26

      *cough cough* 1.13 *cough cough,*

    • @twistedgwazi5727
      @twistedgwazi5727 4 роки тому +3

      @Fmono • 38 years ago • Updated no

    • @bananya6020
      @bananya6020 4 роки тому

      @Fmono • 39 years ago • Updated it does now

    • @bananya6020
      @bananya6020 4 роки тому +3

      1.14 sucks i still play 1.7 at most, perhaps 1.3 even

    • @iDunnoMC
      @iDunnoMC 4 роки тому +3

      @@bananya6020 Cool opinion, minority