I really enjoy and appreciate all the work you’ve put into bringing us this count down. This is actually more than a count down it’s an education an l have been enjoying it immensely! I look forward to every episode and can’t wait to hear your insights and thoughts. I can go on and on but thank you so much!
@@patm4502 Both cards are really nice and now is the time to buy either the topps or OPC if you have the opportunity. I would imagine in another 10+ years both cards will jump a lot
was wating to see where the gretzky card was going to land.. i was sure top 10… number 7 pretty good of all sports cards.. its def the #1 hockey cards… I love this card… I try to acquire this card as I can.. only have 3 now… i want more !!!
The new reality is there are more O Pee Chee Gretzky Cards on PSA pop reports now at 8200 total vs 8000 Topps so everyone had it wrong with the O Pee Chee scarcity argument, O Pee Chee surpassed this year. In the past 5 yrs only 2 Topps PSA 9 have been discovered vs 36 PSA 9 O Pee Chee, so the argument that it's harder to get high grade O Pee Chee than Topps was also wrong. Strike two. The other reason why i think Topps will flip in valuation vs O Pee Chee is that Topps and O Pee Chee were not printed at the same time. Topps was first to market by almost 6 months, it's older so it would actually be his true true rookie. The majority of people that buy either card don't realize that important fact. This is documented by the fact player trades that happened during the production year were only able to get updated on O Pee Chee because the Topps cards were already printed and out there. Strike 3. Lastly, Topps did the design of the card, afterwards O Pee Chee did it's own reprint with French wording months later, so that would clearly make the O Pee Chee a secondary card. Strike 4. These are facts that people had wrong or didn't realize. So better to actually know what you are talking about then continuing another decade of misinformation.
For example, do you think a Gretzky Topps PSA 7 will eventually catch up to a O-Pee-Chee PSA 7 in price? Or will perception that O-Pee-Chee is more scarce always give it the edge in price?
The new people that have come on to the card market don't care for hockey, they just care about only this card. The saying that O Pee Chee is more valuable because it is scare is just not true anymore, so like you are doing you're trying to pivot to another justification to keep this going. I can see why people get easily brain washed into believing something for so long that they finally think it's true. But as a major high high end collector, I want the first major rookie, not one made 6 months later that was copied off of the actual rookie. O Pee Chee is a reprint off of Topps's original creation, that's fact, the current valuation is illogical because it was driven by false BS.I don't care what company or what country made it, it just has to be the first and original. Topps did all the work, O Pee Chee was given a licence to copy their work. In art or anything the value is given to orginator not the copier. But with something like this, where two cards look almost identical, there should be no surprise that the important details would fall through the cracks with the passage of time. As a company, If O Pee Chee was such a holy company and brand, how could it be that they didn't even have a proper cutting blades or equipment to cut their cards, it might sound cute but it's another strike against a company that reprinted a bunch of cards based off of Topps intellectual property and put French on them. I don't know one major collector that speaks French or anyone that takes collectors in Canada or France seriously. On top of this, those high PSA grades of O Pee CHee are really generous. All those cute bad rough cuts are manufacturing defects nothing more they should all have qualifiers. The so called PSA 10 O Pee Chee are really 8s, the 9s are 7s. Subtract 2 from everyone of those defective cards, since they all have the rough cuts. But if everyone wants to live in a fantasy world and pretend those O Pee Chee grades are really reflective of the quality of the card or they are really scarce go ahead and pretend. PSA is clearly is massaging the O Pee Chee grading by ignoring it own rules. Just because the defective cuts are on all O Pee Chee cards doesn't make it ok to ignore the rules, yes population report will look like crap, but that's the reality they have defects and O Pee Chee didn't have the resources to throw them away and redo them so they distributed to the Canadian genius defective material and of course the Canadian collectors did what any human would do put a positive spin on it and try to make a negative a positive and manipulate. Topps 10s are really 10s, 9s are 9s just like every other card they don't need to be manipulated. The only thing O Pee Chee pushers can say and not even really is that Edmonton Oilers were a Canadian team, but even there you have a problem, this card is a NHL card, which is a US organization, the World Hockey Association had already folded and merged the 4 Canadian teams into the NHL in 1979 when Topps made the cards, these were NHL cards being US based cards not WHA or Canadian based. To that end Topps is a US based company. Everything you look at points to Topps's favor. But somehow through the last 40 years false information that could never be backup til now, cute stories, inflated grading, incomplete data information, fantasy, has manipulated the valuation towards O Pee Chee being scarce therefore more valuable. For the 90% hockey collectors that want to pretend that Topps does not exist then you doing yourself a disservice because when it comes to this card and this player if you holding a O Pee Chee Gratzky, you are in fact not hold his true true mass produced rookie card. So don't go around saying you have Gratzky's true rookie card. And if you want live in a pretend world lets also pretend the Holocaust didn't happen. There's no point to pretending and ignoring reality.
@@jimmy_iKoN We get it you own a O Pee Chee not Topps and you are having a hard time wrapping your brain around the false pretense you bought your O Pee Chee. Better Call Saul.
@@jimmy_iKoN My job is educate the herd followers that for decades have followed wrong information. No point to waste my time making blogs this is better because the reach is better. Copy and Paste all the same facts, of course why waste my time when all the important details are the same. Even though you bought both O Pee Chee and Topps you still likely paid more for your O Pee Chee that was artificially propped by wrong and unclear facts by a clueless herd. How does overpaying make you feel? Not good, that is why your playing the critic tonight.
I really enjoy and appreciate all the work you’ve put into bringing us this count down. This is actually more than a count down it’s an education an l have been enjoying it immensely! I look forward to every episode and can’t wait to hear your insights and thoughts. I can go on and on but thank you so much!
Let's goooooo!!! Getting close to the end, been really amazing to follow!
So what cards are left?
-babe Ruth ‘33 Goudy
-Tom Brady contenders auto rookie
-1986 Fleer Jordan
-Honus Wagner T206
-1952 Topps Mantle …
I think you’re right. Just Add the lebron exquisite
Psa 8 Wayne gretzky rookie card on Pwcc auction ending Sunday November 20th! Check it out and bid
What did it sell for? Was it topps or o pee chee?
@@jimmy_iKoN still on auction until Sunday evening. Topps
@@patm4502 Both cards are really nice and now is the time to buy either the topps or OPC if you have the opportunity. I would imagine in another 10+ years both cards will jump a lot
was wating to see where the gretzky card was going to land.. i was sure top 10… number 7 pretty good of all sports cards.. its def the #1 hockey cards… I love this card… I try to acquire this card as I can.. only have 3 now… i want more !!!
The new reality is there are more O Pee Chee Gretzky Cards on PSA pop reports now at 8200 total vs 8000 Topps so everyone had it wrong with the O Pee Chee scarcity argument, O Pee Chee surpassed this year. In the past 5 yrs only 2 Topps PSA 9 have been discovered vs 36 PSA 9 O Pee Chee, so the argument that it's harder to get high grade O Pee Chee than Topps was also wrong. Strike two. The other reason why i think Topps will flip in valuation vs O Pee Chee is that Topps and O Pee Chee were not printed at the same time. Topps was first to market by almost 6 months, it's older so it would actually be his true true rookie. The majority of people that buy either card don't realize that important fact. This is documented by the fact player trades that happened during the production year were only able to get updated on O Pee Chee because the Topps cards were already printed and out there. Strike 3. Lastly, Topps did the design of the card, afterwards O Pee Chee did it's own reprint with French wording months later, so that would clearly make the O Pee Chee a secondary card. Strike 4. These are facts that people had wrong or didn't realize. So better to actually know what you are talking about then continuing another decade of misinformation.
For example, do you think a Gretzky Topps PSA 7 will eventually catch up to a O-Pee-Chee PSA 7 in price? Or will perception that O-Pee-Chee is more scarce always give it the edge in price?
O Pee Chee >
The new people that have come on to the card market don't care for hockey, they just care about only this card. The saying that O Pee Chee is more valuable because it is scare is just not true anymore, so like you are doing you're trying to pivot to another justification to keep this going. I can see why people get easily brain washed into believing something for so long that they finally think it's true. But as a major high high end collector, I want the first major rookie, not one made 6 months later that was copied off of the actual rookie. O Pee Chee is a reprint off of Topps's original creation, that's fact, the current valuation is illogical because it was driven by false BS.I don't care what company or what country made it, it just has to be the first and original. Topps did all the work, O Pee Chee was given a licence to copy their work. In art or anything the value is given to orginator not the copier. But with something like this, where two cards look almost identical, there should be no surprise that the important details would fall through the cracks with the passage of time.
As a company, If O Pee Chee was such a holy company and brand, how could it be that they didn't even have a proper cutting blades or equipment to cut their cards, it might sound cute but it's another strike against a company that reprinted a bunch of cards based off of Topps intellectual property and put French on them. I don't know one major collector that speaks French or anyone that takes collectors in Canada or France seriously. On top of this, those high PSA grades of O Pee CHee are really generous. All those cute bad rough cuts are manufacturing defects nothing more they should all have qualifiers. The so called PSA 10 O Pee Chee are really 8s, the 9s are 7s. Subtract 2 from everyone of those defective cards, since they all have the rough cuts. But if everyone wants to live in a fantasy world and pretend those O Pee Chee grades are really reflective of the quality of the card or they are really scarce go ahead and pretend. PSA is clearly is massaging the O Pee Chee grading by ignoring it own rules. Just because the defective cuts are on all O Pee Chee cards doesn't make it ok to ignore the rules, yes population report will look like crap, but that's the reality they have defects and O Pee Chee didn't have the resources to throw them away and redo them so they distributed to the Canadian genius defective material and of course the Canadian collectors did what any human would do put a positive spin on it and try to make a negative a positive and manipulate. Topps 10s are really 10s, 9s are 9s just like every other card they don't need to be manipulated.
The only thing O Pee Chee pushers can say and not even really is that Edmonton Oilers were a Canadian team, but even there you have a problem, this card is a NHL card, which is a US organization, the World Hockey Association had already folded and merged the 4 Canadian teams into the NHL in 1979 when Topps made the cards, these were NHL cards being US based cards not WHA or Canadian based. To that end Topps is a US based company. Everything you look at points to Topps's favor. But somehow through the last 40 years false information that could never be backup til now, cute stories, inflated grading, incomplete data information, fantasy, has manipulated the valuation towards O Pee Chee being scarce therefore more valuable.
For the 90% hockey collectors that want to pretend that Topps does not exist then you doing yourself a disservice because when it comes to this card and this player if you holding a O Pee Chee Gratzky, you are in fact not hold his true true mass produced rookie card. So don't go around saying you have Gratzky's true rookie card. And if you want live in a pretend world lets also pretend the Holocaust didn't happen. There's no point to pretending and ignoring reality.
we get it.. you own a topps and not an O Pee Chee
@@jimmy_iKoN We get it you own a O Pee Chee not Topps and you are having a hard time wrapping your brain around the false pretense you bought your O Pee Chee. Better Call Saul.
@@hbo7390 i own both actually but every video about a gretzky card i see the same copy and paste from you. go write a blog about it
@@jimmy_iKoN My job is educate the herd followers that for decades have followed wrong information. No point to waste my time making blogs this is better because the reach is better. Copy and Paste all the same facts, of course why waste my time when all the important details are the same. Even though you bought both O Pee Chee and Topps you still likely paid more for your O Pee Chee that was artificially propped by wrong and unclear facts by a clueless herd. How does overpaying make you feel? Not good, that is why your playing the critic tonight.