A number of years ago I was at Windy Ridge which is the far southeast corner of Spirit Lake. A forest ranger pointed out to the middle of that south part of the lake and told me if you go down 100 feet of water and then 200 feet of mud, that’s where Harry Truman‘s place is today.
Whoa!! Spirit Lake sure grew! From what I understand, the bottom of today's Spirit Lake is actually OVER the former surface level of the old lake. That means that Truman is under the bottom of Spirit Lake.
It's pretty insane how much higher the water level is, combined with how many feet of material lay atop old Truman's lodge. If you look closely at satellite photos of the area from before the eruption, you can make out where previous volcanic landslides have gone from eruptions there. Truman's lodge was right on top of an ancient flow, and the 1980 eruption basically went over the same areas on that side of the mountain.
Thanks so Much for Sharing that Gordon. I have been looking for Info on Just where Harry Truman's Lodge was Located Originally. Very interesting. I know it has changed completly Now. I Beleve the Lodge is buried under at least 150 or More Ft of Mud. I have allway wondered what Those last few Moments of Harry's Life was Like. Where Was He at At The Moment of The Eruption.? Did He see it comming at Him. Or did it happen so fast He never New what Hit Him. We will Never Know or find any Trace of His Lodge.
Im sure he (Harry Truman) knew it was erupting. If he was out side and had a view of MSH he saw the lateral blast coming. Thats if the landslide didnt reach him before the lateral blast. Does anyone know how much closer Harry was to MSH than David Johnston? DJ was about 5 1/2 miles away and from what Ive read it took the lateral blast about 40 seconds to reach him. Johnston def saw it coming. He knew he was doomed long before it reached him. Must have been a terrifying site.
He was a family friend apparently. Last thing my family heard was "I'm going fishing on the lake" now, whether on a dock or boat I don't know. But I've been interested in finding the original area of his place.
That whole side of the mountain collapsed so fast, there was no time to respond with how close Truman was to it. Most estimates say from the hot temperatures of the slide, he was almost certainly instantly 'vaporized'. Likely didn't hardly have time for nerves to react to anything before he was gone. He did say a couple times that if the property was taken by the volcano, he likely wouldn't live very long without it anyway... if the eruption was going to take his spot on the lake, it was going to take him too. The interviews he gave in those final months are legendary. He lived his best life in those final months as a living folk hero for his stubbornness to leave, receiving all sorts of letters and banners of support from school children, media attention, talking with geologists and telling the sheriffs to sod off. He was quite the character.
Thanks for that! Looks like Harry Truman's place was probably located just above the farthest right mound (out in the water) of those four in a row white mounds. He himself is probably wrapped around a stump fairly close but 300 feet down. At only 4 miles away, he probably never knew what hit him. The video of his sister helicoptering in to lay a wreath on the vicinity was heartbreaking.
Mount Ranier looks closer than 70 miles off as the crow flies. Guess it's so large it just appears closer. Mount Adams is much closer but it is due East.
That's really fascinating. I lived in Coeur D'Alene in 1980, I was just a kid but remember that day well. We got hit with the ash cloud a number of hours after it erupted and had about an inch of ash that covered everything. All the color was just gone from everything. It was just nuts.
Thank You. This is exactly what I was looking for when I got on You Tube. I wanted to see what Spirit Lake used to look like in comparison to how it looks now. Wow! It sure was lush and green at one time. I wonder how many years it will take for it to get that green and lush again. Probably not in my lifetime. Thanks again! That really gave a good comparison. Is that Mt Saint Helens in the background? I'm assuming it is. I always thought Spirit Lake was right under Mt Saint Helen. Now I realize it is further away.
Aztec Girl. Nature has a way of healing herself pretty quick. I heard that his lodge was 4 miles from Mt. St. Helens and yes, that is Mt. St. Helens in the background.
It is totally possible with how close he was to the mountain and that the blast was compared to several thousand Hiroshima bombs, Truman was probably instantly vaporized. Id imagine it happened so fast he didnt feel a thing. God rest his soul.
robert bandle that’s a good question. My guess would be two reasons: 1) not enough public demand or state funding for the logs to be removed. 2) the park service wants to preserve the surrounding area the way it was left by Mother Nature and let nature take its course.
@@ogs1mpson609#2 is correct. The remaining logs on the surface are what is left remaining from the morning of the eruption. The lake surface used to be completely covered, and now must have sank to the bottom and rotted away over time.
Thanks Gordon, but it will be beautiful again. In time, nature will do its thing. Maybe not as fast as humans would like, but imagine how long it took to create what Harry loved. Nature doesn't conform to human wants.
A number of years ago I was at Windy Ridge which is the far southeast corner of Spirit Lake. A forest ranger pointed out to the middle of that south part of the lake and told me if you go down 100 feet of water and then 200 feet of mud, that’s where Harry Truman‘s place is today.
Whoa!! Spirit Lake sure grew! From what I understand, the bottom of today's Spirit Lake is actually OVER the former surface level of the old lake. That means that Truman is under the bottom of Spirit Lake.
Well, regarding the location of his lodge. Actually, Truman, his cats and the lodge, were blown to smithereens by the landslide and blast.
RW4X4X3006 while you are exactly correct, you also missed the point of the video.
It's pretty insane how much higher the water level is, combined with how many feet of material lay atop old Truman's lodge.
If you look closely at satellite photos of the area from before the eruption, you can make out where previous volcanic landslides have gone from eruptions there. Truman's lodge was right on top of an ancient flow, and the 1980 eruption basically went over the same areas on that side of the mountain.
I hadn't realized how much the lake had changed. That's way different and quite a bit bigger. Thank you for showing this. Facinating!
This is what I've been looking for!!
Thanks so Much for Sharing that Gordon. I have been looking for Info on Just where Harry Truman's Lodge was Located Originally. Very interesting. I know it has changed completly Now. I Beleve the Lodge is buried under at least 150 or More Ft of Mud. I have allway wondered what Those last few Moments of Harry's Life was Like. Where Was He at At The Moment of The Eruption.? Did He see it comming at Him. Or did it happen so fast He never New what Hit Him. We will Never Know or find any Trace of His Lodge.
I have wondered the same thing. I never realized he was under water. I thought he just got covered in mud.
Im sure he (Harry Truman) knew it was erupting. If he was out side and had a view of MSH he saw the lateral blast coming. Thats if the landslide didnt reach him before the lateral blast. Does anyone know how much closer Harry was to MSH than David Johnston? DJ was about 5 1/2 miles away and from what Ive read it took the lateral blast about 40 seconds to reach him. Johnston def saw it coming. He knew he was doomed long before it reached him. Must have been a terrifying site.
I created video on my channel about what was probably happening those last seconds, so check it out if you want.
He was a family friend apparently. Last thing my family heard was "I'm going fishing on the lake" now, whether on a dock or boat I don't know. But I've been interested in finding the original area of his place.
That whole side of the mountain collapsed so fast, there was no time to respond with how close Truman was to it.
Most estimates say from the hot temperatures of the slide, he was almost certainly instantly 'vaporized'. Likely didn't hardly have time for nerves to react to anything before he was gone.
He did say a couple times that if the property was taken by the volcano, he likely wouldn't live very long without it anyway... if the eruption was going to take his spot on the lake, it was going to take him too.
The interviews he gave in those final months are legendary. He lived his best life in those final months as a living folk hero for his stubbornness to leave, receiving all sorts of letters and banners of support from school children, media attention, talking with geologists and telling the sheriffs to sod off. He was quite the character.
Thanks for that! Looks like Harry Truman's place was probably located just above the farthest right mound (out in the water) of those four in a row white mounds. He himself is probably wrapped around a stump fairly close but 300 feet down. At only 4 miles away, he probably never knew what hit him. The video of his sister helicoptering in to lay a wreath on the vicinity was heartbreaking.
Excellent video; Gives a great idea of the before and after changes.
Mount Ranier looks closer than 70 miles off as the crow flies. Guess it's so large it just appears closer. Mount Adams is much closer but it is due East.
Its so crazy how his home is now under the lake.
That's really fascinating. I lived in Coeur D'Alene in 1980, I was just a kid but remember that day well. We got hit with the ash cloud a number of hours after it erupted and had about an inch of ash that covered everything. All the color was just gone from everything. It was just nuts.
Thank You. This is exactly what I was looking for when I got on You Tube. I wanted to see what Spirit Lake used to look like in comparison to how it looks now. Wow! It sure was lush and green at one time. I wonder how many years it will take for it to get that green and lush again. Probably not in my lifetime. Thanks again! That really gave a good comparison. Is that Mt Saint Helens in the background? I'm assuming it is. I always thought Spirit Lake was right under Mt Saint Helen. Now I realize it is further away.
Thats Mt Rainer in the background. Mt St Helens wold be "underneath" the photo. Its much closer.
Aztec Girl. Nature has a way of healing herself pretty quick. I heard that his lodge was 4 miles from Mt. St. Helens and yes, that is Mt. St. Helens in the background.
tkguyok That's Mt Rainier to the north. The old photo (overlay) is taken from the summit of Mt St Helens.
No pretty sure that's Mount Rainer back there. Photo either taken from air or from rim of Mount Saint Helens itself.
That’s Rainier.
I just discovered this. Thank you.
They also had to dig a tunnel to keep the lake from getting full, they try to keep it 35 feet lower than what it should be
It is totally possible with how close he was to the mountain and that the blast was compared to several thousand Hiroshima bombs, Truman was probably instantly vaporized. Id imagine it happened so fast he didnt feel a thing. God rest his soul.
Well the lake was completely displaced by the blast in 1980. A 200ft wall of mountain crashed into Spirit Lake basically moving it amd elevating it
how come thay dont clean the old logs out
robert bandle that’s a good question. My guess would be two reasons: 1) not enough public demand or state funding for the logs to be removed. 2) the park service wants to preserve the surrounding area the way it was left by Mother Nature and let nature take its course.
@@ogs1mpson609#2 is correct. The remaining logs on the surface are what is left remaining from the morning of the eruption. The lake surface used to be completely covered, and now must have sank to the bottom and rotted away over time.
Scientists being scientists.
Good stuff, thanks for this.
This is very cool!
Very cool!
Thanks Gordon, but it will be beautiful again. In time, nature will do its thing. Maybe not as fast as humans would like, but imagine how long it took to create what Harry loved. Nature doesn't conform to human wants.
But the past cannot be replace .....
Are these pictures available for download anywhere?
Sorry, no. They were just screen captures I took from both Google Earth and one from the Forest Service.
I wish they'd clean up the lake, I mean it's only been 38 years...
Harry Truman, killed during eruption, is not the same as the president Harry S. Truman.
Why? Surrounding land is devastated. Its a testament to history. Never forget the danger...
1:39 is the flipback.
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Thanks great video
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