garage HEATER from old Clothes DRYER gas or electric
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2021
- Free shop furnace with just a little time and effort.
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CARBON MONOXIDE any concern??????
This is no different than the millions of propane and kerosene shop heaters used daily worldwide. It's actually burns cleaner than those. All of these types don't produce enough CO to register on detectors when properly functioning. Of course a CO detector is always a great idea in case something does go catastrophically wrong. I have tested it for nearly a week running 5+ hours at a time without opening any doors(intentionally trying to confine any potential CO). Tested both on the floor where CO settles and at head height. The highest levels achieved were 13ppm directly in the path of the discharge heat port and 0ppm everywhere else in there shop. The 13ppm was only momentary and likely from initial fire up when the combustion isn't perfect for a split second. Repeated and prolonged tests directly in the discharge path show ZERO. For reference OSHA permits workers to be exposed to 50ppm for 8 hours straight and 200ppm for short intervals. CO detectors usually don't alarm unless they are exposed to 400ppm for over 5minutes straight. This is a SHOP/GARAGE heater and common sense should be used when using any heater that burns fuel or even electric.
COST to occasionally heat shop with different sources of energy for a winter season. Calculated for 25million BTU(1/4 the amount needed to heat an entire home for the winter in Northern USA)
ELECTRIC: $953 (rate $0.13kw)
DIESEL(fuel oil #2): $451 (rate $2.50gallon)
KEROSENE(fuel oil #1): $463 (rate $2.50gallon)
NATURAL GAS: $200 (rate $0.80therm)
PROPANE LPG: $753 (rate $2.75gallon)
WOOD PELLETS: $500 (rate $5 per 40#bag)
WOOD: FREE or $406 (rate$250 4*4*8cord) or $162 (rate$100 4*4*8cord)
THOUGHTS:
So to heat my shop with electric it would cost around $1000 vs the $200 for the Natural Gas. Currently I use Diesel which is cheaper and has more BTU per gallon energy vs Kerosene. I try to get diesel around $2/gallon and stock up, but it's going up. At that rate I could spend around $400-$500 a winter. Cost for me to run black pipe to my garage was around $35 and took an hour or two of my time. The Flexible hose and coupler was around $40. The Natural gas setup and heater should pay for itself in a few months and if I find it's not big enough(20k BTU) to handle the insulated garage I will buy the Mr Heater 50k BTU amzn.to/37jV4PX .
ELECTRIC DRYERS(put out around 20k BTU at 5500watts 240volts)
Some designs are going to be very difficult. The ones with the heating element at the back of the drum are not going to be easy or near impossible(General Electric). The Kenmore/Whirlpool with the cube heating element on the back should be pretty straight forward and easy to work with. The easiest would by the ones with the heating element(like old Maytags) in the burn tube. However, electric heaters are pretty cheap and you can buy a 240V one equal to a dryer for around $100 amzn.to/2NB7f4a
WHICH BROKEN DRYER SHOULD YOU GRAB
-Ones with broken timer controls! You don't really need the timer knob to work. You would just set it and it would go until you stopped it.
-Noisy/banging drum! you are going to take that all out.
-No spin but fan still blows: likely the belt is just broken and that's no problem for us
-Heats but clothes take forever to dry. Likely just lint plugging everything up.
LEAVE BEHIND
-No heat. This is very common with electric and it's just the coil 99% of the time. This is generally $20-40 for the new part. GAS and it's likely the solenoid valves which cost around $20-40.
-BAD CPU computer board with error code: NO forget it, NOT WORTH IT.
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DON'T DO THIS WITH A GAS UNIT!!! Carbon monoxide poisoning in enclosed space will occur!
@@yvongauthier4409 IT WILL PRODUCE ZERO CARBON MONOXIDE.
As a red seal journeyman plumber/gasfitter in canada, I love tinkering with gas appliances, especially when it comes to making them into badass makeshift heaters. Never thought of using a dryer but this is super impressive. I know of a way you could control it with a thermostat if you decide youd like to, but i kinda like it with the dryer control. I also really like how you kept all the safety devices and reused the outside of the dryer to make an actual appliance vestibule for it. That is epic.
How would you hook a thermostat to it
And you missed that he’s venting a gas appliance into an enclosed space? Not even remotely safe to turn something that was vented to the atmosphere into something vented into an enclosed space.
@MTR again an appliance not to be used in enclosed spaces. I’ve seen morons on the job with co poisoning multiple times.
@@mattberg6816 i agree that venting it into an enclosed space is dangerous and is a good way to get carbon monoxide poisoning, but hes not using this as an unattended form of permanent heat in his garage. Hes just using it to take the chill off the garage. It isnt very safe, but neither is using a salamander. Ive seen people shove a tiger torch in a steel pail. Not saying its safe but its a lot better than a salamander
@@markallan9050 it’s simply not safe no two ways about it
The best thing I have come across is a used mobile home furnace they are compact, You can get them cheap, they run on propane or natural gas and they are vented so your tools/windows don't get full of moisture.
"Oh honey, the house is nice and warm! By the way, where did the dryer go?" Yet another great and educational video man! Thanks!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Came for the heater build (even though I don't even have a garage to heat)
Stayed and subscribed because of the paint can mixer. Genius!
That's brilliant, and the finnished product looked good too.
I love the way she showed you the door latch when the balls were in the dryer, couple of clever cookies in that shed.👍
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
holy Crap, this was a pretty interesting video from the beginning but when you started boxing it up with improvised left over parts of the dryer it was like watching a transformer movie! You outdid yourself again Moe! thumbs up.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really nice job! Very cool work. Never would have thought of that. Thanks for posting this. I love to see things recycled/upcycled instead of going to the landfill.
Great job, well done. I see discarded dryers all the time and often wondered what I could do with them so now I know. Keep the projects coming, love it.
Thanks 👍
This is one of your coolest builds ever! I think you’re going to enjoy that delayed start feature!
I think so too!
That was pretty amazing honestly. Happy to see it get repurposed to something usable instead of just landing in a landfill somewhere because a 50 cent door latch switch went bad. Good work!
The best part was the door latch mechanism was broken but they had the same part on the other side so the door opening direction could be flipped. I just flipped the door to open from the other side and it was done. I actually thought the guy I got it from was lying to me that the only issue was the door not closing. He even gave me tape to hold it closed for use.
Brilliant Bud!! I like the way you cobbled it together to look good!! Congrats on the 200K!!☺
Engineered *!
Hey Thanks!
Wouldn't say cobbled but fabricated fits.
I personally would say he sculpted it.
I would be so proud to have that pure genius engineering marvel in my garage. High Five from Tx.
I would be adding a carbon monoxide detector to the garage!!!
Innovative reuse of a clothes dryer, although it would be prudent to add a warning for the gas powered version about carbon monoxide. Using this device in a garage over or attached to a living space could well be lethal. I believe this gas dyer conversion should be titled “Space “Heater” as opposed to “Garage Heater”. Space heaters are used in well ventilated areas such as construction sites or warehouses. Gas fired garage heaters use heat exchangers to separate the byproduct of burned fuel (carbon monoxide) from the ambient air and always have chimneys. A far safer alternative for to the gas fired heater is the conversion of an electric dryer.
Get lots of insurance, an add life insurance to
Why? Its made for INDOOR clothes drying. It's doing same thing as when it used to dry clothing.
@@theguy9234 your dryer vents all of the hot air outside of your house.... It doesn't dump the exhaust air inside the living space
You could simply add a long length of pipe to the exhaust along the perimeter of a room then outside as it would act as a radiant heater . And yes it work quite well that way . Also as small as that burner is would act like a ventless gas heater.
Man that was the best entertainment I've seen on UA-cam for a long time ,well done
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
DUDE! That is righteous! I love it! I was researching how to disconnect the heating element for an electric dryer to make a heat free tumbler to get pet hair out of my pet bedding before washing it so I could stop plugging up my washer drain valve and saw this. RIGHTEOUS! Superb! It came out beautiful!
This popped up and I was curious, as I have never thought of using a clothes dryer as a general purpose heater. I was taken in by the idea. Then repurposing of the bottom to hold everything was great. What got me is the enclosure. Everything fit together so well. And the end product? It looked very professional. Probably the best junk project I've seen. You don't need a piece of paper to be an engineer. You ARE an engineer, my friend. Kind Regards from MN.
That has got to be THE best project ever, absolutely fantastic. I’m looking for a dryer to buy now!!!!! Brilliant video 👍👍👍
Awesome! Thank you!
Dont Buy New, reuse...
Add a thermostat to the door switch so it turns off when it's up to temperature.
Great addition
In my uninsulated shop, that thermostat would just stare at me with a "WTH am I here for?" expression.
@@giraffewithtattoos2770 true that.
A CO sensor switch would be better, you might be dead by the time it gets up to temperature.
Actually picked up a free electric dryer. Fixed it and set the entire dryer in the shop for heat. Rigged a pigtail so i could plug it into the welder plugin. Warmed the shop nicely. Never thought of cutting it down. Nice job.
Nice work!
Pretty dang cool. I like that you cut the entire thing into pieces and reassemble them into something totally different . When it's all done you tell us the only thing you had to modify was the door switch. 😃
"My balls! What are you doing to them??" My shepherd used to cry when his wooby was in the wash and wanted to stay by the machines.
Great project, well done.
Mine does 105 minutes, for the bathroom that’s more than enough and it’s a great way to save energy by not leaving it on when I don’t need it
Your channel is honestly one of the best on youtube! I was so enthused when I found it and started binging through all of your projects!
Well dang man that's very kind of you to say!
Not sure how I stumbled across your video but excellent job on the dryer / shop heater. I appreciate the work you put into it. You seem to be a perfectionist and want the final product to look professional. I'm the same way. Thanks again for the video.
As a HVAC technician this scares me. As a cheap ass this intreges me. I would definitely make sure you have plenty ventilation and make up air for that
Yes but as you know a properly burning natural gas flame produces no discernible carbon monoxide.
I don't think your insurance company would approve....just throwing that out there.
@@tsw199756 What kind of idiot would tell their insurance company. This is about a thousand times safer than the torpedo kerosene heater I run in the garage.
@@sixtyfiveford idk about yours but my insurance company likes to drop in for inspections randomly. Besides if there ever was a problem and they traced it to a home built heater I'm pretty sure you'll be on your own without coverage.
@@sixtyfiveford plus your advocating to your audience to make such a contraption and I can see some dimwit building one, circumventing the safety features, burning his building down and suing you for giving him a flawed idea. Just sayin
Very cool, Moe! I've used a dryer to heat the garage up by just disconnecting the exhaust but I imagine this puts out much more heat.
patrick bateman, both theaters are releasing all heat generated into the room.
Yours is doing more work because of turning the drum, but that part of the added heat is inefficient so you're paying a tiny fraction more per BTU. And your percentage will jump up when the drum needs maintenance.
A $4,700 marble covered electric stove puts out same amount of heat as a plastic $10 one.
Well done that man ! Never would have thought you could repurpose a dryer into a shop heater and it look so good.
Thanks 👍
Really cool idea!!! I just replaced my dryer and have my old one that still works I’m going to have to try this myself. Impressive with repurposing something that ends up in a landfill. Keep up the good ideas.
Thanks Michael. Glad you liked it -Moe
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They've already been made !!!!!!!! ♿ 🇺🇸
Very good. That's some impressive re-engineering. Almost steampunk-ish.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
This is the greatest repurpose I’ve seen in awhile. I have an old dryer I can’t wait to get started on! Thanks!
Awesome! Thank you!
That's amazing! I wondered if there would be any reason to rig an air filter but a dryer doesn't use one so I suppose not. AS long as your not using something flammable it should work for a long time. Just amazing.
It's used to being covered in flammable dryer lint. Every dryer I've ever taken apart you can see burnt lint.
I call it curb-side shopping. lol
Another great re-purpose build! : )
That dog of yours sure is intelligent...
Got to love curbside shopping.
If I wasn't already subscribed to your channel, this would have made me do it. Awesome video.
Wow, thanks!
The thermister went out on our dryer. Watched how the dryer was taken apart, where it replacement was to go. Bought 2 for cheap b4 BO govt days shut public's ability to purchase from the parts shop. LOVED this, but my hub wouldn't appreciate me collecting dryers as my new found interest. Keep warm guys! 👍 Great day to see INGENUITY at another level!
Such a great idea!! Now I’m kicking myself for giving my old dryer away.. it just needed the bearings for the drum replaced so I figured I’d give it away to get it out of my garage, now I wish I would of done this and kept it in my garage lol!
I don’t know what you do for a living ? But you should have been an engineer ! All I can say is is nice job.
Hey Thanks. I did go to college to become a mechanical engineer but never finished me degree because I decided to just do my own thing. Couldn't stand working for someone else so I guess I'm an awol engineer.
@@sixtyfiveford You are an engineer Moe, you don't need a degree to claim that title, you've earned it for sure.
He could never be an engineer. Engineers only design things that are overly complicated and difficult to repair in a real world scenario. Plus it seems engineers have tiny Japanese hands and do not build things for American mechanics with big muscle hands.
@@22kpar1xcyberdyne9 LOL you took the words out of my mouth. Use to work in a packaging plant every machine setup the engineers designed we the mechanics had to rebuild so it would actually work in real life instead of on paper.
@@dontfit6380 paper is a good place to start, but a poor place to finish.
Funny, how do you heat your shop? “45 minutes High dry settings”!!!!
Too Funny.
Delicate for a mild spring day.
Still have to look out for CO.
@3G Craftsman it’s not too cold today. Let’s do a delicate cycle.
I know person that has washer and dryer in their garage. it heats their garage and dries cloths at the same time. he even turns it on without clothes it doesn't matter it wears out faster. they are everywhere for free brilliant idea at least I thought so.
Fantastic, definitely a fun project to try for next winter. I dig how everything got reused, repurposed. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I love it . I been Frankensteining stuff together like this for 30years, all my buddy's rag the hell outa me when I grab stuff like old dryers and washing machines, I made my own lawnmower blade sharpener out of a washing machine motor and older controls. copied a big pro model . mine works exactly like the 800$. looks almost as nice . great job .
Ha, I did something like this last year. I had an extra old clothes dryer in my garage, so I decided to hook it up to the 240V outlet I had. Attached flex duct to the outlet and ran it under the car to where I was working. Turned dryer to high heat for 60 minutes and that was the warmest and freshest-smelling oil change I'd ever done in the winter. Having the duct bring the heat to where you are working was the best part.
Awesome.
Issue: Conversion to Propane: Very simple and cost effective.
You'd have to change the orifice in the burner probably.
UA-cam algorithm suggested this video as I am always adding stuff to my watch later list. I might go through 20-50 a night, often just discarding the majority but every now and then I find one I add to my permanent "reference" list that has serious intelligent how to stuff. Of those maybe I see 10% that will get me to subscribe, maybe after I catch 3-4 good videos with little fluff, straight forward explanations, no B$ added on. This video was so informative and right up the same alley as I like to think that I subscribed before I got halfway through. Great work all around. Looking forward to seeing more from your channel. √
Glad you like it. Thanks.
Well thanks to this awesome video I ended up getting a gas one from a neighbor and I already had gas in my shop.
Doesn’t put out mass amount of hot air but warms half insulated shop to 68.
Right on!
Bare minimum this is great entertainment, but mostly I'm inspired. We throw away so much, in any other generation would be inconceivable. Shows ta go ya. :o)
Very true.
It's a shame that folks throw away a dryer that just needed the door realigned so the safety switch would engage. They probably spent $800 or more for a similar dryer. I noted that one had a stainless steel drum and fancy electronic controls, so it was not a cheap unit.
@@BryanTorok The way we go wrong is when we mistake consumption for gratification, and it always leaves us wanting more
@@macswanton9622 When my wife and I moved about 5 years ago, we considered buying a new washer and dryer for the new house. After a great deal of research, we found that the new front loader washing machines use less water but take 3 times as long to wash a load of clothes. And, lots of people are dissatisfied with them. So, our Kenmore machines still work just fine and are more than 30 years old. I did have to replace the igniter in the dryer, about $25, but otherwise no problems.
Everybody worried about carbon monoxide needs to remember, the salamander heater does the same thing. Obviously, in any case, you need to be cautious....but it's not like he made something that carries a new risk that didn't exist before.
EXACTLY. Natural gas puts out less CO gas per BTU than Kerosene/Diesel or Propane. CARBON MONOXIDE is not a worry of mine. I have run the torpedo heaters for years and never set off the detector. I know it works as I can start a chainsaw for 30 seconds and it blares.
Burning natural gas in a dryer puts out the same CO as a ventless fireplace. Which is nothing.
@@sixtyfiveford That's great. If CO was a problem with natural gas, they would have to do away with gas cook stoves.
really if anyone is worried about carbon monoxide gases then do on with an electric dryer. otherwise this is pretty damn awesome.
@@marks3750 Cooking stoves burn for a lot less than 10-50% duty for 24 hours though. I was honestly surprised CO was not mentioned at all in the video, just as a disclaimer at least. Good to hear there is a CO alarm in the shop already!
This was so informative and entertaining!👏 I'm not too handy but I'm forwarding this to hubby. Maybe he can coach me through this. I was scouring the internet for projects like this! With your clear explanation, I think I can attempt this myself with a little extra help. Free dryers are available all the time! Love the video! Thank you 😊
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Your thoughts, troubleshooting workmanship and end results are amazing. Just one huge package of amazing!
Thank you very much!
I would install a Carbon Monoxide detector in the garage.
It's no different than the Propane or Kerosene heaters commonly used by the millions across the US. As long as they aren't malfunctioning, they don't produce Carbon Monoxide; only Water and harmless Carbon Dioxide.
wait a couple of years until people start tossing out those smart dryers that you can control with a app. those will make the ultimate heater when you can start it from your phone before you go out to the shop!
I love your ingenuity and shop skills.
AND your knowledge too!
Very Unique set up. I like minds that wander into mechanical engineering at it's best. A big thumbs up on this one. 👍
Its so simple that I would have never thought of it.
Hey Thanks.
An electric dryer would essentially be a giant electric space heater, with a lot more than 1500 watts on hand. Awesome.
at that point, just get a European spaceheater that runs on 240V and put in an appropriate socket...
@@matthewmiller6068 Junk dryers can be had for free. What does a euro space heater cost?
They make 208-240v space heaters.
Brilliant! Great idea to make a heater out of nothing. I run a natural gas torpedo heater in my shop using the same quick disconnect line. It works great, but is turbo noisy. Great video! 👍😁
I don't have a shop/garage or a spare dryer but i still watched this entire video for some reason lol. Awesome idea though. You are very resourceful.
Hey thanks
When you do HVACR for a living and you were waiting for the combustion gas test on that direct fire "furnace" that never happened.
Your dog is more intelligent than 90% of American college graduates!
Probably.
But can you name all 37 genders 🤣
@@jonnyonwheels damn you got me on that one! I used to believe xx and xy chromosome decided the gender. Oh well I guess "feelings" is the new science
@@scoutdogfsr Chromosomes decide sex not gender, its not new science you just didn't pay attention in class.
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Hi. Thanks for taking the time & effort to make your DIY videos. You think "outside the box" and it is great.
Thanks
Awesome vid! Very creative. The best ideas are to create a valuable tool that's practical,saves money and is made with common items that are inexpensive. This one and the tire strap videos are great. Thanks!
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. I love my tire bungee straps.
Pretty cool!! Just curious, do you have a CO meter to check the carbon monoxide levels while it's running?
Natural gas. No C2 Nox
People have ran nasty smelling diesel heaters in their shops for years, as long as you have a cracked door you'll be just fine. What on earth did people do back in the olden days to stay warm?
@@WizardofGOP You are taking this entire thing way to far, it's a guy heating his garage with an old natural gas dryer. I use a natural gas heater with an open flame to heat my garage and I've even used spray paint at the same time! Guess what? I didn't die from the fumes of the heater, the spray paint or the explosion 💥 lol.
@@WizardofGOP Whatever helps you sleep at night.
@@WizardofGOP You gonna show up at his private residence and make a citizens arrest for running a dryer? Maybe have that crazy girl Gretta van whatever her name is help to take him into custody? Come on dude, it's time to move along. I think your just jealous because you don't have a modified natural gas dryer workshop heater of your own!
Me and my cousin tried this. Not to the same standard tho the downside was it was not grounded properly so we get shocked a fair bit when we turn it on and off. I use a stick now
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Thank you, That was a lot of work but a beautiful job of re-purposing!
I've been watching ever since you did the refillable aerosol cans. have to admit I almost skipped this one I saw the thumbnail and thought it was going to be the hokiest piece of crap ever. Man am I glad I decided to watch it. The way it all came together in the end was impressive. Didn't look like a hacked up dryer at all! Honestly that delay start could be handy have a nice warm shop when you come out in the morning
AvE would be proud of your fabricobble.
To reach those standards I would have had to take it apart with a sledge hammer and have 13 other disassembled projects on the bench at the same time.
Gaddis the safty goat may want to have a word, though. :)
Clever! I'd be concerned about CO (yes, I saw your comment about that) and possibly CO2. Not so much high/dangerous levels, but more of the chronic low level exposure over time. Also, you're putting a fair amount of water vapor into your shop this way. I live in a wet, very mold-prone area so I'm paranoid about that, but maybe it's not as much of an issue where you are. I imagine you could scab together a pretty decent heat exchanger from HVAC ducting that would extract a lot of the heat before exhausting outside.
I'm always impressed with your skill at repurposing things and making snazzy things from junk!
I run a gas oven with the same BTU for hours each day in my house. Nothing is vented and all the CO stays in the home and is 100% safe per code to do so. 20kBTU is tiny.
@@sixtyfiveford I didn't know you were a baker too! Yeah, I'm sure it's fine (I have a gas stove), I just think about long term concerns. These also produce particulates, which definitely are harmful, but the amount is probably pretty small.
@@sixtyfiveford you don't use a gas stove like you would use a heater so yeah...what you just built is dangerous
@@markschiavone8003 First they sell wall heaters that are triple the BTU and CO output of these that are just an open flame designed to be used indoors and considered safe. Second I sold commercial Vent Free gas fireplaces for a decade that are just a Natural Gas flame with no venting outside. Both of those put out more BTU and Carbon Monoxide than a dryer. Carbon Monoxide is not a worry of mine. I have run the torpedo heaters for years and never set off the detector(12hours straight at times). The meter never budges off zero. I know it works as I can start a chainsaw for under 30 seconds and it goes right off. Natural gas puts out less CO gas per BTU than Kerosene/Diesel or Propane and is probably the cleanest gas you can burn. Homes are designed to be sealed up tight and have below ground level basements where CO could accumulate over weeks. A shop or garage is far from air tight and as long as you open a man door or bay door every few days it will never accumulate.
THIS IS AWESOME! I saved all the parts from my old gas dryer and have been wanting to bring heat into the garage
Fantastic!
Just wondering, could u convert to propane so it can be off grid.thanx
@@garrynicholl8777 yes, but you MUST change the gas flow orifices for propane. The pressure for natural gas is not the same as propane
This could be the best thing I've watched on you tube! Well done!
CARBON MONOXIDE any concern??????
This is no different than the millions of propane and kerosene shop heaters used daily worldwide. It's actually burns cleaner than those. All of these types don't produce enough CO to register on detectors when properly functioning. Of course a CO detector is always a great idea in case something does go catastrophically wrong. I have tested it for nearly a week running 5+ hours at a time without opening any doors(intentionally trying to confine any potential CO). Tested both on the floor where CO settles and at head height. The highest levels achieved were 13ppm directly in the path of the discharge heat port and 0ppm everywhere else in there shop. The 13ppm was only momentary and likely from initial fire up when the combustion isn't perfect for a split second. Repeated and prolonged tests directly in the discharge path show ZERO. For reference OSHA permits workers to be exposed to 50ppm for 8 hours straight and 200ppm for short intervals. CO detectors usually don't alarm unless they are exposed to 400ppm for over 5minutes straight. This is a SHOP/GARAGE heater and common sense should be used when using any heater that burns fuel or even electric.
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COST to occasionally heat shop with different sources of energy for a winter season. Calculated for 25million BTU(1/4 the amount needed to heat an entire home for the winter in Northern USA)
ELECTRIC: $953 (rate $0.13kw)
DIESEL(fuel oil #2): $451 (rate $2.50gallon)
KEROSENE(fuel oil #1): $463 (rate $2.50gallon)
NATURAL GAS: $200 (rate $0.80therm)
PROPANE LPG: $753 (rate $2.75gallon)
WOOD PELLETS: $500 (rate $5 per 40#bag)
WOOD: FREE or $406 (rate$250 4*4*8cord) or $162 (rate$100 4*4*8cord)
THOUGHTS:
So to heat my shop with electric it would cost around $1000 vs the $200 for the Natural Gas. Currently I use Diesel which is cheaper and has more BTU per gallon energy vs Kerosene. I try to get diesel around $2/gallon and stock up, but it's going up. At that rate I could spend around $400-$500 a winter. Cost for me to run black pipe to my garage was around $35 and took an hour or two of my time. The Flexible hose and coupler was around $40. The Natural gas setup and heater should pay for itself in a few months and if I find it's not big enough(20k BTU) to handle the insulated garage I will buy the Mr Heater 50k BTU amzn.to/37jV4PX .
ELECTRIC DRYERS(put out around 20k BTU at 5500watts 240volts)
Some designs are going to be very difficult. The ones with the heating element at the back of the drum are not going to be easy or near impossible(General Electric). The Kenmore/Whirlpool with the cube heating element on the back should be pretty straight forward and easy to work with. The easiest would by the ones with the heating element(like old Maytags) in the burn tube. However, electric heaters are pretty cheap and you can buy a 240V one equal to a dryer for around $100 amzn.to/2NB7f4a
WHICH BROKEN DRYER SHOULD YOU GRAB
-Ones with broken timer controls! You don't really need the timer knob to work. You would just set it and it would go until you stopped it.
-Noisy/banging drum! you are going to take that all out.
-No spin but fan still blows: likely the belt is just broken and that's no problem for us
-Heats but clothes take forever to dry. Likely just lint plugging everything up.
LEAVE BEHIND
-No heat. This is very common with electric and it's just the coil 99% of the time. This is generally $20-40 for the new part. GAS and it's likely the solenoid valves which cost around $20-40.
-BAD CPU computer board with error code: NO forget it, NOT WORTH IT.
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INCORRECT!!! A natural gas dryer is VENTED outside and DOES produce significant levels of carbon monoxide dependant on the year it was made. this iss why you should not vent gas dryers into the interior of your home to recover heat from them without the use of a UL approved heat exchanger. This is a common cause of CO poisoning in northern states. check with your local fire department for the facts.
Electric dryers do not present this issue.
@@ProfessionalArmourer First UL listed means nothing is not required by any one. They are private company that simply makes money off endorsing products. Nearly two weeks running carbon monoxide levels are a perfect zero in the garage.
Carbon monoxide is a concern, but so is carbon dioxide. Burning anything uses oxygen, which you need for breathing. Not sure a CO detector will also detect CO2. Otherwise, a very cool project and really nice video.
Been wondering about free or $20 or less washers too for parts... especially the mechanical more analog designs for garden automation. Been wondering about making into a cement mixer like design too for soaking and mixing the bagger clippings or other organic waste to make fertilizer tea. That's a little more challenging... though the solenoid valves and pumps along with electromechanical switches for timers seem neat. The newer designs seem will work just as well.
Would be sweet in a greenhouse or grow room.
Absolute madness. I hope you never figure out how to harness lightning to reanimate things lol. But really moe that's awesome
That would be cool!
Awesome job! A shop heater to take the chill out indoors plus you get a fire pit barrel for outside heat too😉! That’s what I call a win win! 👍🏼👍🏼 from this guy!
Heck Yeah! Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
You are a freaking genius. In case your wife send you to the garage, you are all set.
Congrats. Great idea, great way to explain, no waste of time. 👍👍
Thanks 👍
I would've stopped working just to look into the Sims cards😂
Where's the video for the paint can "shaker" . . . I found it!
Right here ua-cam.com/video/VWJ5qdCe8sY/v-deo.html
It works great.
That’s really great work, making a ventless gas heater out of an old clothes dryer fantastic,If you hang a dryer sheet in front of the air outlet you can have your shop smelling April fresh
Great tip!
I’d love to see you do an electric version. Great work!
All you need is a dryer sheet holder, sir
That's funny!
Possibly to put in front of vemt to make the garage smell "niiiccceeee"! In the cousin Eddie voice from xmas vacation!!!
Imaginative rigging for sure.
Hey Thanks.
Dude, you are the man’s man. Love all your stuff.
Your Dog is something else, it's very glad you heated the shop/garage. for when you both are out there working on something. oh yeah awesome heater too.
I remember the episode where you put your Dog in your pickup. and put a cheeseburger on the dash. you left and came twenty minutes later the cheeseburger was gone. and your Dog knew it was in trouble that was totally AWESOME.
Hey Thanks.
Of course you have a carbon monoxide alarm or two in your garage when you run your unvented heater, right?
First they sell wall heaters that are triple the BTU and CO output of these that are just an open flame designed to be used indoors and considered safe. Second I sold commercial Vent Free gas fireplaces for a decade that are just a Natural Gas flame with no venting outside. Both of those put out more BTU and Carbon Monoxide than a dryer. Carbon Monoxide is not a worry of mine. I have run the torpedo heaters for years and never set off the detector(12hours straight at times). The meter never budges off zero. I know it works as I can start a chainsaw for under 30 seconds and it goes right off. Natural gas puts out less CO gas per BTU than Kerosene/Diesel or Propane and is probably the cleanest gas you can burn. Homes are designed to be sealed up tight and have below ground level basements where CO could accumulate over weeks. A shop or garage is far from air tight and as long as you open a man door or bay door every few days it will never accumulate. I run a Natural Gas stove with the same BTU for hours every day and it is 100% unvented per code. All the carbon monoxide from the open flame stays inside the home and is so minuscule it is considered 100% safe.
I literally run a 20k but propane heater in my garage and have done so for 12 hours straight with the door shut and haven't had issues. And that burns dirtier than CH4. I also heat my house with CH4 and don't have issues and have been doing it that way for the past 3 years. I too have a CO detector and it hasn't gone off.
Russ:
there are only two products in the combustion of methane (natural gas). Just water and carbon dioxide. That's basic chemistry.
CH4 + 2O2 --> 2H2O ÷ CO2
That's all!
CO is only produced when there is insufficient oxygen. Lack of O2 isn't a problem in a shop building.
Rewire it, mount it to the ceiling, and attach a thermostat to it.
Hey, why not.
@@sixtyfiveford Seems like you really want the safety controls, ease of use, not a bad reason. Thermostat would be ideal.
Very cool. We could definitely be neighbors. 😂 I like how you can not only see things but have the talent to see it through. 👍🏼
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Dude! You ARE the man! I would have never thought of that.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
Wouldnt that cause carbon dioxide? Isnt that the whole point in venting a gas dryer to the outside
gas makes more CO (carbon monoxide) than diesel in a torpedo heater, a good cold weather CO detector is a must
The point of venting a dryer outside is so you don't have a gallon of water out of the clothes floating around your house. First they sell wall heaters that are triple the BTU and CO output of these that are just an open flame designed to be used indoors and considered safe. Second I sold commercial Vent Free gas fireplaces for a decade that are just a Natural Gas flame with no venting outside. Both of those put out more BTU and Carbon Monoxide than a dryer. Carbon Monoxide is not a worry of mine. I have run the torpedo heaters for years and never set off the detector(12hours straight at times). The meter never budges off zero. I know it works as I can start a chainsaw for under 30 seconds and it goes right off. Natural gas puts out less CO gas per BTU than Kerosene/Diesel or Propane and is probably the cleanest gas you can burn. Homes are designed to be sealed up tight and have below ground level basements where CO could accumulate over weeks. A shop or garage is far from air tight and as long as you open a man door or bay door every few days it will never accumulate. I run a Natural Gas stove with the same BTU for hours every day and it is 100% unvented per code. All the carbon monoxide from the open flame stays inside the home and is so minuscule it is considered 100% safe.
SFF your are a GENIUS!!! How do you think of these things. You're frigging incredible brother!
Elon Musk: We're not able to figure out why our trucking fleet won't go 500 miles on a single charge.
SFF: Yeah? I got this. Here, hold my beer and get me a screw driver. I'll just be a minute...
SFF: Boom, Hybrid Electric Diesel engine. 1000mile range.
Thanks Man, I'm glad you liked it.
@@sixtyfiveford LOL
Lmmfaooo!!!
Why would he need Elon Musk to hold his beer? He could do that with one arm! LOL
The glowing thingie is called an igniter, it operates off of 110-125 VAC, some units have a flame IR sensor.
My old house the garage had my washer and dryer setup I'm there so I'm the winter te I would disconnect the vent tube from the wall and use it as a heater and plug it back in when it was summer time. Worked great!!
Awesome
Fire it in a vented box outside and send the output pipe and control panel through the wall in you garage and your set. Great video you learn something new everyday 👍
I like it!
Carbon monoxide poisoning anyone?
There is a reason dryers, water heaters, and gas furnaces have an exhaust pipe that goes outside.
This setup is the same principle as a torpedo heater.
@@jeffwain And those are supposed to be used in well ventilated areas.
It's no different than the millions of propane and kerosene shop heaters used daily worldwide. They don't produce enough CO to register on detectors when properly functioning. Of course a CO detector is always a great idea in case something does go wrong. I have tested it for nearly a week running up to 5 hours at a time without opening any doors. Tested both on the floor where CO settles and at head height. The highest levels achieved were 13ppm directly in the path of the discharge heat port and 0ppm everywhere else in there shop. The 13ppm was likely from initial fire up when the combustion isn't perfect for a split second as repeated and prolonged tests at the same area show ZERO during the heat cycle. For reference OSHA permits workers to be exposed to 50ppm for 8 hours straight and 200ppm for short intervals.
This is all fine and dandy but if that shit burns your garage and house down your gonna be up a shit creek with your insurance covering the damage.
That's an ignorant comment. Your current dryer in your home is a thousand times more likely to burn down your house with all the flammable lint accumulated all over everything inside.
I think the whole idea is great. Then you added the canine element. That's brilliant!
Now that's wicked cool! Could sure as hell used that a week ago when it was 30 below and I had to work on the truck!!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Mom. Where’s you’re father. Son. Oh he’s asleep in the garage.
And mom is asleep in the kitchen, because she was using the natural gas stove top?
And what about the carbon monoxide?? I suggest an electric dryer only for this type of application.
Agreed but it's probably much cleaner than running the diesel heater
Carbon Monoxide is not a worry of mine. I have run the torpedo heaters for years and never set off the detector. The meter never budges off zero. I know it works as I can start a chainsaw for 30 seconds and it blares. Natural gas puts out less CO gas per BTU than Kerosene/Diesel or Propane. This will cost around $200 per year to heat the shop. Electric would be over $1000 to do the same.
Same as your stove.
@@sixtyfiveford you are right on the money with the $1000 increase with electric. I'm in Colorado and spent the last month and some change trying to work in my 576 sf shop remotely making stuff for my full time job bc of covid. It increased my utility bill about $250 just to keep it at room temp for 8 hours 3 or 4 days out of the week using a 220v wired electric heater. Needless to say I'm not doing that anymore haha
@@joshpoole6056 I tried to heat a greenhouse just to keep it above freezing in the fall years ago. Did it for a month needless to say those are some of the most expensive $150 tomatoes I've ever had.
Genius. I’m always concerned about the carbon monoxide. I’m glad you explained it in the description. Great video.
And the drum can be used in the backyard as a firepit! Great build idea, I bet on gas it makes a great, efficient shop heater! Next time I run across a working enough gas dryer for free, I'm making one!
For sure! It's a nice stainless steel drum and will make a nice fire pit.
@@sixtyfiveford Yeah stainless even! Can't even buy one that nice at the box stores!
Dude. I *amazed* at what I've just watched. This. Is. Genius.
Awesome build... Thanks for sharing. Safe travels Perry
Yep, I can honestly say I've never seen a clothes dryer turned into a shop heater! lol Ingenuity at its finest!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.