The Shield made their debut helping Punk retain. Heyman said he had an agreement with Roman that Punk was off limits. Solo Bloodline threatened Punk when Paul asked him to take him with him, with Bronson Reed in the match will lead to more issues with Seth and Punk. This is makes a lot of sense to me.
@aaronsmith6388 cmon its common knowledge cm punk wasn't the first wrestler or tag team to be managed by Heyman. You knew what punk meant, I knew what punk meant... so what you getting at? That you watched the notsam video this morning and you wanted to get a gotcha moment making you look knowledgeable but instead made you look like a fool. I love you
@@aaronsmith6388 no, you are a contrarian. The concept of a paul heyman guy was born in that moment with cm punk. There were no paul heyman guys before that. Just people he managed. And I'm sorry I went hard on you earlier, I didn't realize you were mentally handicapped. I love you
Also I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that Punk and Heyman brought the Shield to the WWE and they were doing Punk’s dirty work while he was champion
Last night was about as near-perfect of a Smackdown as you could get. Chelsea Green advancing in the Women's US title tournament is the only choice. They also managed to find a way to keep Bianca strong and add a new storyline. Montez shined in singles action as we saw the collapse of DIY. Santos and LA Knight was a good night, but it's all about the build-up of Nakamura vs LA Knight. Nakamura looks great in this heel persona. Cody and KO's promo was fire and it's funny because in some ways KO feels justified and Cody looks like the heel. The Women's tag match was the weakest part of the night, just because of how rushed this whole Women's WARGAMES feels. Finally and the best part of the night. The Massive Pop for Paul Heyman with the "LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!" and another insane pop for CM Punk. Yes. We all thought this should have been 4v4, but WWE somehow made this even more worth talking about. Also fitting 1 year after returning to the WWE Punk is now in WARGAMES. This is now the most talked about thing in wrestling.
@@aaronsmith6388oh but Paul Heyman only managed Brock Lesnar. I love you. 😂😂😂😂 In all seriousness, if we are talking about Paul Heyman guys, it goes back before Brock. Pretty much the entire ECW roster were Paul Heyman guys and then there's the Dangerous Alliance that included Stunning Steve Austin, Rick Rude, Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Mean Mark Callous (Undertaker). One could argue these are the original Paul Heyman guys.
@garymaidman625 the difference is I never said brock was the og I just used him as an example. Everyone Paul Heyman managed was a Heyman guy. Like I stated before cm punk was just the first one to give it a nickname.
Nobody wants to point out two main things. First, he didn't do his full my name is paul heyman and I serve as the special counsel and wiseman to the only tribal chief my tribal chief roman reigns, number 2 that outfit heyman is wearing eerily looks similar to the red suit outfit solo wears alot.
We can't forget....Paul changed his phone number and *never* notified Roman he did that! Yeah, he'd do that so Solo wouldn't harass him, but not even text his Tribal Chief??
@@labbaby189 okay i was wondering if that was strange to anyone else. i could’ve swore anytime i see this man w Roman, he always wore a full suit n it was blue
@@labbaby189 okay i was wondering if that was strange to anyone else. i could’ve swore anytime i see this man w Roman, he always wore a full suit n it was blue
People need to quit thinking Lesnar is coming back. I just can't see WWE/TKO bringing him back with the whole allegation thing going on. Unless it is proved that he wasn't involved in any way, I don't think they'd be willing to take that risk.
@@jamesmaskell3743 did you read any of the court documents that were released? They specifically mention a former champion that was also involved in the UFC during a specific time period. The only person that fits the bill is Lesnar. Now, they didn't mention him by name but the documents gave enough of an explanation. Also, WWE literally removed him from the 2k24 video game and cancelled any plans they had for him during WM season. I think it's pretty fair to say they aren't going to do anything with Lesnar until this whole thing with the Janelle Grant situation is either resolved (which it won't be for quite some time) or it is flat put proven that Lesnar had nothing to do with it.
I’m sure there are better options, but I would love for Roman’s retirement match to be against Seth. After everything they’ve been through, starting their main roster careers together and all the wars they’ve had, I think it could be a very epic moment, like Michaels-Flair levels of epic
Bayley asked if anyone saw what happened when Jade was being taken away, and both Jade and Bianca are out of the US title tournament. I'm not pushing for her to turn heal again so soon, though.
@johndoiron9615 so when they revealed Bronson Reed as the 5th guy for Solo's bloodline, it left you with Rollins or Lesnar as the more obvious picks as the OG Bloodline's #5. I think most of us completely overlooked the connection to a few months ago when Heyman asked Punk to save him from Solo and the Tongans
Hear me out.... everyone gives roman a beat down both teams they all hit there finishers, jimmy, jey, cm punk, sami, solo etc.... paul hayman b4 the pin introduces the High cheif Seiuli The final Boss. And that is how Rome Fell.
The whole phone disconnect thing could have just been intentional on Heyman's part to keep his plan a secret. Wrestlers nowadays watch what happens backstage so Solo would have known something was up if Roman got through to Heyman's voicemail at all.
I see the reasoning for one set of titles between the brands but would you agree that it gives the title holders more time to hold the belts? Less matches defending them but still having matches (the champions) and having other teams wrestle for the #1 contender spots also gives time for storylines to brew and evolve.
The only guy to get a bigger reaction than this version on Roman is Punk Raw is gonna be lit with Seth Rollins This Bloodline Story is making me quickly forget about Covid
@victorapolinario2766 yes I know about Paul backing Punk in OVW & the ECW brand but I was just pointing out their partnership on TV wasn't quite as long as Simon remembers 😊
shinsuke has the same problem the fiend/bray had, where he had fantastic promos, fantastic story, but he just always loses.. so it's like.. how much can we really believe you know, he's just a heel jobber, no offense, but that's just.. it's such a shame, i kinda hope he does win but have it be a fluke, then LA can get it back a few weeks later or something.
so, i already know Seth rollins is gonna show up in that war games. He hates cm punk and got f-ed over by the "new bloodline" with the guy he just feuded with. Now the question is... whos gonna win out of his intervention? Cause i see him destroying bronson reed but then, hitting both cm punk AND roman reigns... so somebodys gonna have to pin someone
Hikuleo is not ready yet, that’s what he needs to do his time at nxt. As for Rock, he has is own schedule so he can’t be part of a weekly story. He will most probably so his face on the royal rumble and wrestlemania always if fits his busy schedule
The Bloodline story is falling apart! I think Rhea Ripley (⚖️) is the one who took Jade Cargill (💪🏽)🏆 out of The Game! Rhea doesn't fit into the lineup....
I think it was Rhea Ripley (⚖️) or Delta a.k.a Zaria {(⚓️)} or both who laid the Powerhouse Jade Cargill (💪🏾)🏆out!! Raquel (⚖️) could ne the next Powerhouse to become a Parking lot Victim !!
Dude, CM Punk not only over shadow Roman Reigns and the storyline narrative but he didn't even put up the (☝🏻) symbol! ....😅 Roman Reigns was literally on top again and with no title...😂😂
The WWE is doing Naomi so dirty.. when she comes out with jade and Bianca, she looks like their lil sister who was just playing dress up in their closet lol
Okay hear me out, what if on Raw CM Punk gets jumped backstage. Then we’re left wondering yet again who’ll be the 5th member. Come Smackdown time, Paul starts trying to ease Roman by saying “don’t worry my trouble chief, The wiseman always has a plan” then survivor series, Paul introduces Brock Lesnar (if he’s cleared of any wrongdoing) or even Bron Breakker and claim him as the newest “Heyman guy”
Seth Rollins needs to no be involved in any of this. No one wants or needs to see Punk Rollins. That's whack. Rollins is not on that level. Frankly neither is Reigns but he's better than Rollins. Still light years ahead of AEW though in story lines.
Here’s my only complaint about punk being the fifth member. He’s been out since hell in a cell saying that that match drained him, so will he be out again a couple of months after this cage match?
He was only out because he doesn’t want to work Saudi shows 😂 he came out of that hell in a cell match injury free. Wwe isn’t having their top draw of raw be out for two months 😂 punk is going to play a huge role in the road to mania, he’s front and center on all the Netflix posters too
What if paul heymans got the people that attacked him, the people who he thought would have helped him out but didnt and is bringing back brock lesnar to destroy them all at war games
Great. a bunch of 40 somethings beating the dead horse that is the Bloodline. JUST what the YOUNG kids really want to see. I can't see that going well so as long as I'm not gonna see stuff, I wanna NOT see John Cena just end this whole thing and WWE get creative again and create a new storyline and not just milking an old one with new players. Im fine being one of the only people thinking this is just unbelievable stoopid. Time to call John Cena if they're really going to try a Punk in the Bloodline. It does NOT make sense. It only makes sense because it is just someone Paul Heyman was connected to that was NOT Brock Lesnar. NOTHING more. Paul heyman HAS no one else to call! Anyone else would make sense. Anyone the Bloodline has messed with in the entire roster. Horrible. It makes TNA's scripting seem decent now.
What a way to mess up a Great cup of coffee 🍵! By butchering a Great storyline narrative with adding someone who has nothing to do with the story...🤔🗯️ Bronson (☝🏽) was a stretch but he worked;
The Shield made their debut helping Punk retain. Heyman said he had an agreement with Roman that Punk was off limits. Solo Bloodline threatened Punk when Paul asked him to take him with him, with Bronson Reed in the match will lead to more issues with Seth and Punk. This is makes a lot of sense to me.
Also CM Punk acknowledged Roman in one of his first promos. But then reminded him he was the og Paul Heyman guy
@@NickySolobut he wasn't the og Heyman guy. He was just the first one to give it a nickname..
@aaronsmith6388 cmon its common knowledge cm punk wasn't the first wrestler or tag team to be managed by Heyman. You knew what punk meant, I knew what punk meant... so what you getting at? That you watched the notsam video this morning and you wanted to get a gotcha moment making you look knowledgeable but instead made you look like a fool. I love you
@@NickySolo I just believe in using correct terms. Not my fault I know who the real og Paul Heyman guy is.
@@aaronsmith6388 no, you are a contrarian. The concept of a paul heyman guy was born in that moment with cm punk. There were no paul heyman guys before that. Just people he managed. And I'm sorry I went hard on you earlier, I didn't realize you were mentally handicapped. I love you
Are we all forgetting “you gotta make roman look really strong?” love the long term storytelling!!!
Damn there's so many layers upon layers in all of this. I love that we can make a solid case for multiple paths they can take. Such good storytelling.
Also I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that Punk and Heyman brought the Shield to the WWE and they were doing Punk’s dirty work while he was champion
Last night was about as near-perfect of a Smackdown as you could get. Chelsea Green advancing in the Women's US title tournament is the only choice. They also managed to find a way to keep Bianca strong and add a new storyline. Montez shined in singles action as we saw the collapse of DIY. Santos and LA Knight was a good night, but it's all about the build-up of Nakamura vs LA Knight. Nakamura looks great in this heel persona. Cody and KO's promo was fire and it's funny because in some ways KO feels justified and Cody looks like the heel. The Women's tag match was the weakest part of the night, just because of how rushed this whole Women's WARGAMES feels. Finally and the best part of the night. The Massive Pop for Paul Heyman with the "LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!" and another insane pop for CM Punk. Yes. We all thought this should have been 4v4, but WWE somehow made this even more worth talking about. Also fitting 1 year after returning to the WWE Punk is now in WARGAMES. This is now the most talked about thing in wrestling.
CM Punk acknowledged Roman in one of his first promos. But then reminded him he was the og Paul Heyman guy
Lesnar was a Paul Heyman guy LONG before CM Punk.
@@barrythawn3083 oh you didn't know? Because cm punk was the first to say the name "Paul Heyman guy" that makes him the og lmfao
@@aaronsmith6388oh but Paul Heyman only managed Brock Lesnar. I love you. 😂😂😂😂 In all seriousness, if we are talking about Paul Heyman guys, it goes back before Brock. Pretty much the entire ECW roster were Paul Heyman guys and then there's the Dangerous Alliance that included Stunning Steve Austin, Rick Rude, Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Mean Mark Callous (Undertaker). One could argue these are the original Paul Heyman guys.
@garymaidman625 the difference is I never said brock was the og I just used him as an example. Everyone Paul Heyman managed was a Heyman guy. Like I stated before cm punk was just the first one to give it a nickname.
lmaooo Brock needa be here
Nobody wants to point out two main things. First, he didn't do his full my name is paul heyman and I serve as the special counsel and wiseman to the only tribal chief my tribal chief roman reigns, number 2 that outfit heyman is wearing eerily looks similar to the red suit outfit solo wears alot.
Down to the red faced watch
@@Eekswerd213 ikr my first thought went to the Rock secretly orchestrating everything that's happened to roman
I just figured Paul had on Bloodline colors.
We can't forget....Paul changed his phone number and *never* notified Roman he did that! Yeah, he'd do that so Solo wouldn't harass him, but not even text his Tribal Chief??
Simon pointed out 1 of them and I'm only 3 minutes in
From "take me with you" to "its gonna be 5 on 5!"
When punk did his go to sleep.. he held it in the praying position like Jacob Fatu.. it was a delay before finally doing the GTS pose
This plus Paul Heyman wearing black and red... if I was Roman I'd have my head on a swivel for the rest of my career.
@@labbaby189 okay i was wondering if that was strange to anyone else. i could’ve swore anytime i see this man w Roman, he always wore a full suit n it was blue
@@labbaby189 okay i was wondering if that was strange to anyone else. i could’ve swore anytime i see this man w Roman, he always wore a full suit n it was blue
People need to quit thinking Lesnar is coming back. I just can't see WWE/TKO bringing him back with the whole allegation thing going on. Unless it is proved that he wasn't involved in any way, I don't think they'd be willing to take that risk.
Straight facts
The lawsuit didn't allege anything more happening, so hard to think there's anything more in it. They didn't meet.
@jamesmaskell3743 did you watch the vince documentary?
@@jamesmaskell3743 did you read any of the court documents that were released? They specifically mention a former champion that was also involved in the UFC during a specific time period. The only person that fits the bill is Lesnar. Now, they didn't mention him by name but the documents gave enough of an explanation. Also, WWE literally removed him from the 2k24 video game and cancelled any plans they had for him during WM season.
I think it's pretty fair to say they aren't going to do anything with Lesnar until this whole thing with the Janelle Grant situation is either resolved (which it won't be for quite some time) or it is flat put proven that Lesnar had nothing to do with it.
People need also to stop Wanting this. Potential and likely predators should be in jail not given millions on TV.
I’m sure there are better options, but I would love for Roman’s retirement match to be against Seth.
After everything they’ve been through, starting their main roster careers together and all the wars they’ve had, I think it could be a very epic moment, like Michaels-Flair levels of epic
Bayley asked if anyone saw what happened when Jade was being taken away, and both Jade and Bianca are out of the US title tournament. I'm not pushing for her to turn heal again so soon, though.
Just when you think heyman will return and deliver a beast he returns from the song dead and gives you a savior instead
Throwing Lesnar into this would have been Dr. Robotnik level chaos.
@johndoiron9615 so when they revealed Bronson Reed as the 5th guy for Solo's bloodline, it left you with Rollins or Lesnar as the more obvious picks as the OG Bloodline's #5. I think most of us completely overlooked the connection to a few months ago when Heyman asked Punk to save him from Solo and the Tongans
Bro The Rock and Seth Rollins vs Cm Punk and Roman Reigns, The Rock hates Paul Heyman so Roman being the New Paul Heyman guy makes the most sense
Hear me out.... everyone gives roman a beat down both teams they all hit there finishers, jimmy, jey, cm punk, sami, solo etc.... paul hayman b4 the pin introduces the High cheif Seiuli The final Boss. And that is how Rome Fell.
Im not done, Roman's off tv till the rumble, #30 wins... says he doesnt want a belt, he wants rock in the main event.
Heyman was dressed just like Solo…
He had the OG bloodline colors
@@saqibakbar2026they all have the same red colors in the ring, both sides
The whole phone disconnect thing could have just been intentional on Heyman's part to keep his plan a secret. Wrestlers nowadays watch what happens backstage so Solo would have known something was up if Roman got through to Heyman's voicemail at all.
OTC.M. PUNK!! OTC.M PUNK!
That better be chanted 🔥
That's kinda fire tbh.. OTCMPUNK
Maybe they will replace Jade Cargill with Charlotte Flair
Heyman was dressed like Bearer ⚱️
This is an awesome story line but you forgot about randy Orton vs Kevin Owen's vs cody rhodes thank you simon
I see the reasoning for one set of titles between the brands but would you agree that it gives the title holders more time to hold the belts? Less matches defending them but still having matches (the champions) and having other teams wrestle for the #1 contender spots also gives time for storylines to brew and evolve.
There’s a plan. Notice Paul Heyman and his hands and Fatu there will be something there
It would be crazy if everyone turned on Roman, especially with Jey being the most over baby face right now.
Sami was like Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns gave that look like "WTF you thinking?"
Imagine sitting down to watch War Games 2023 and someone telling you that this would be happening at the 2024 event. What a time to be alive
Imagine if Puck sides with the Rock and that trigger Seth to finally team up with Roman and forget the past
Seth turned on Roman first.
Reigns vs Rollins vs Punk should happen because there’s a deep rooted story there
The only guy to get a bigger reaction than this version on Roman is Punk
Raw is gonna be lit with Seth Rollins
This Bloodline Story is making me quickly forget about Covid
Seth and Rock should invade 😂😂😂
this a crazy clique hop
Bianca I think took out Jade
i can’t i believe missed this episode of Smackdown man. but Simon whats more important sleep or wrestling?
Wrestling
3:58 Heyman & Punk were only fully aligned onscreen for a little over 6 months back in 2012/13
If you know their history, you know how much influence Paul had in Punk’s career
@victorapolinario2766 yes I know about Paul backing Punk in OVW & the ECW brand but I was just pointing out their partnership on TV wasn't quite as long as Simon remembers 😊
Seth still costs the OG turning mega heel vs Punk.
Another fine video, Mr Miller
May not play into anything but if the rock is there, he has history with Punk which just so happened to involve Roman and Seth.
Hope you do a Q and A soon Simon.👍
With rhea wearing the black mask I got badass catwoman vibes
Seth’s heel turn is cooking. He will stomp Heyman to get back at punk for siding with Roman 🔥
I really wanna see DIY go heel together with Johnny have to turn on his mentor
The seeds are planted for a Punk vs Roman at Wrestle Mania next year when Roman beats Cody at the Rumble
I missed this segment, the show ended after the woman brawl featuring Rea.
God damn tv 📺
The thing is, Paul was put through the table.
Personally, it's up after that
Bubba said what if on Busted Open so I knew this would happen!!!
I think he winked at Sami, remember the phone thing?
but they did that heel tag-team shift not to long ago with Candice lerae and Indi hartwell....too damned soon and similar.
Netflix for Raw makes no sense to me. Why not Peacock? Are they moving Raw PLEs to Netflix?
PLE’s are still on peacock but raw is on netflix
Global reach
shinsuke has the same problem the fiend/bray had, where he had fantastic promos, fantastic story, but he just always loses.. so it's like.. how much can we really believe you know, he's just a heel jobber, no offense, but that's just.. it's such a shame, i kinda hope he does win but have it be a fluke, then LA can get it back a few weeks later or something.
A Paul Heyman and Punk heel turn is coming...
i was just thinking that yesterday, heyman will turn on roman reigns, because he kinda turned his back on him after wrestlemania
Got My Tickets 11th Row Floor Tickets to Royal Rumble So Excited Gets A Golden Up In My Book
My theory: Paul Heyman is building his own stable.
I'm betting on a CM Punk / Heyman heel turns at Survivor Series
Kevin Owen vs Cody Rhodes will end in no contest match. Kevin takes out Cody, injuring Cody. Randy Orton comes back to finish the fued with Randy.
Randy is coming back to finish a feud with himself?
so, i already know Seth rollins is gonna show up in that war games. He hates cm punk and got f-ed over by the "new bloodline" with the guy he just feuded with. Now the question is... whos gonna win out of his intervention? Cause i see him destroying bronson reed but then, hitting both cm punk AND roman reigns... so somebodys gonna have to pin someone
When is Hikuleo debuting? He should've been the 5th guy for Solo's team and Rock 5th guy for Roman's team.
Hikuleo is not ready yet, that’s what he needs to do his time at nxt. As for Rock, he has is own schedule so he can’t be part of a weekly story. He will most probably so his face on the royal rumble and wrestlemania always if fits his busy schedule
Punk stole your spot, holding a grudge?
I think both Paul & Roman will turn. Roman said he never changes. I sense something screwy.
We Might Actually See Blood In WarGames This Year
The Bloodline story is falling apart! I think Rhea Ripley (⚖️) is the one who took Jade Cargill (💪🏽)🏆 out of The Game!
Rhea doesn't fit into the lineup....
I think it was Rhea Ripley (⚖️) or Delta a.k.a Zaria {(⚓️)} or both who laid the Powerhouse Jade Cargill (💪🏾)🏆out!! Raquel (⚖️) could ne the next Powerhouse to become a Parking lot Victim !!
Dude, CM Punk not only over shadow Roman Reigns and the storyline narrative but he didn't even put up the (☝🏻) symbol! ....😅
Roman Reigns was literally on top again and with no title...😂😂
Because as Punk said off mic, he's not here for Roman, he's there for Paul. You see him saying it in response to Roman asking what he was doing there.
The WWE is doing Naomi so dirty.. when she comes out with jade and Bianca, she looks like their lil sister who was just playing dress up in their closet lol
Has to be leading punk to Rollins match. Rollins will interfere in some way because of Bronson and the loss this week.
No joke; listening to you makes me smarter.
Simon’s UA-cam spell: +2 Wisdom, permanently
Okay hear me out, what if on Raw CM Punk gets jumped backstage. Then we’re left wondering yet again who’ll be the 5th member. Come Smackdown time, Paul starts trying to ease Roman by saying “don’t worry my trouble chief, The wiseman always has a plan” then survivor series, Paul introduces Brock Lesnar (if he’s cleared of any wrongdoing) or even Bron Breakker and claim him as the newest “Heyman guy”
KO is right!
CM Punk joining the Bloodline storyline made ZERO sense 😂
It makes perfect sense, he’s doing it for Paul.
The Temu Bloodline powerbombed his old friend thru a table. He’s mad about that.
Seth Rollins needs to no be involved in any of this. No one wants or needs to see Punk Rollins. That's whack. Rollins is not on that level. Frankly neither is Reigns but he's better than Rollins. Still light years ahead of AEW though in story lines.
“Something something in my tum tum”
Seen within a minute wow 😮
Was it me or did Paul actually play everyone?
I thought it'd be brock
Here’s my only complaint about punk being the fifth member. He’s been out since hell in a cell saying that that match drained him, so will he be out again a couple of months after this cage match?
That isn't a complain, that’s a hypothetical question
He was only out because he doesn’t want to work Saudi shows 😂 he came out of that hell in a cell match injury free. Wwe isn’t having their top draw of raw be out for two months 😂 punk is going to play a huge role in the road to mania, he’s front and center on all the Netflix posters too
What if paul heymans got the people that attacked him, the people who he thought would have helped him out but didnt and is bringing back brock lesnar to destroy them all at war games
Either Rebecca Lopez, Ashley Flier, or Pamela Martinez join Bianca Crawford’s team for war games….and somehow Jade blames her attack on Bianca.
Punk is so cringe.😬
I’m calling it now punk’s getting attacked backstage and Seth is replacing him
I wuv u simon
Great. a bunch of 40 somethings beating the dead horse that is the Bloodline.
JUST what the YOUNG kids really want to see.
I can't see that going well so as long as I'm not gonna see stuff, I wanna NOT see John Cena just end this whole thing and WWE get creative again and create a new storyline and not just milking an old one with new players.
Im fine being one of the only people thinking this is just unbelievable stoopid.
Time to call John Cena if they're really going to try a Punk in the Bloodline.
It does NOT make sense.
It only makes sense because it is just someone Paul Heyman was connected to that was NOT Brock Lesnar. NOTHING more. Paul heyman HAS no one else to call!
Anyone else would make sense. Anyone the Bloodline has messed with in the entire roster.
Horrible. It makes TNA's scripting seem decent now.
Why couldn't they just do 4 on 5, Paul brings out Lesnar for the final 5 min
This is Great. ua-cam.com/users/shortsz04mmCS45CA?si=0zAQhejUC7aChSK6
What a way to mess up a Great cup of coffee 🍵! By butchering a Great storyline narrative with adding someone who has nothing to do with the story...🤔🗯️
Bronson (☝🏽) was a stretch but he worked;