Thanks very much, I was worried that the audience would get bored listening to me just talking, a big risk indeed from our normal standard of videos. I know Grove Park very well, oh happy days
The Southern then later BR(SR) was obsessed with designations of these units as toilets or braking systems. I have the 2 HALs and 5 BELS. The was one 2HIL which was one BIL and one HAL coach set made up of odd coaches. Hornby modelled it. 6 PAN also comes to mind and 6 PUL. PEP as well Thank you for the information.
Thank you, Yes indeed, the list is endless my brain was pickled by the time I went through what I could remember, and you know what's its like, when I'd finished I remembered more! Indeed the PEP ( Prototype Electro Pnuematic ) 5 WES, not to mention the De- Icers we had, and we never got trained on them but weee expected to just accept it and drive them, units converted from SUBs, HALs mainly, I did drive a 2 BIL once, now that was an experience I can tell you , "Nut Crackers" we called them, flashes, clicks and bangs all over tge place, under yiur feet, behind you, above your head and absolutely no heating whatsoever in the cab! Like driving a fridge, freezing cold feet and hands, you were wrapped up like a woolly bear on those things, I remember Ice inside the cab on the windscreen!
Thanks for this. Really enjoyed it, and so well explained. I used to take them out of Waterloo as a Schoolboy just before they got retired. The modern stuff is so bland now :/
That's a relief to me to hear as that's what I was told at Southside Training School in the 80s, I guess ots a lot of "Old School" but I'd never known them as Corridor Brightons, just shows how time moves on, and in my humble opinion, Corridor Intermediate Gangway makes far more sense. Thanks for your comment, hope you enjoyed the video.
Nice chat...I always called them CIG (KIG) and CEP (KEP)...because of the corridor...why is the official pronouunciation which I only found out more recently SIG and SEP ---never understood why? TIA if you know...
I did explain in the video, CEP stands for Corridor Electro Pnuematic, CIG stands for Corridor "Brighton" as the letters "IG" stood for Brighton, but they wernt just allocated to Brighton, Bournemouth had them as home Depot on the South Western, I don't understand your reference as KIG or KEP SEP???? CEP - as per shown in the totle, CORRIDOR ELECTRO PNUEMATIC ( EP Braking system) as they were never known as such anywhere on the Southern Region nor SIG - no such thing Im afraid, the correct designation and classification is CIG ( yes pronounced SIG but so is CIG for Cigarette) Its just a regional thing but the SR had so many abbreviations for their stock, we Drivers learned them in 3 specific areas:- 1951 Stock - All Eastleigh Built 4 EPB 2 EPB 1957 Stock - All Eastleigh Built 4 CEP 4 BEP 3 CEP* later conversion prior to intro diction of 375 Electrostars on SE, and 2 x 3 CEPs 1198 & 1199 for Lymington Pier Branch on SW. 4 EPB 2 EPB 2 HAP 4 CAP MLV 1963 Stock - Built at York 4 CIG 4 BIG 4 VEP 4 VOP* later conversion from 4 VEP 3 COP* later conversion from 4 VEP 4 VEG - Vestibule Electro Gatwick 1972 Prototypes 4 PEP Prototype Electro Pnuematic
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway I was just asking about the pronounciation of the C as in Cigar rather than Corridor...(corridor is not pronounced sorridor)
@@AntonyLvids ah OK, apologies, I misunderstood, hope things are a bit clearer now for you, being brought up with these trains in the south we got used to it all, and never called them or pronounced them any other way. Purely an area thing it seems
Cracking video really enjoyed it. Thank you. As an aside, I started my career as a Guard at Grove Park in the late 80's and early 90,s. 😊
Thanks very much, I was worried that the audience would get bored listening to me just talking, a big risk indeed from our normal standard of videos. I know Grove Park very well, oh happy days
The Southern then later BR(SR) was obsessed with designations of these units as toilets or braking systems. I have the 2 HALs and 5 BELS. The was one 2HIL which was one BIL and one HAL coach set made up of odd coaches. Hornby modelled it. 6 PAN also comes to mind and 6 PUL. PEP as well
Thank you for the information.
Thank you, Yes indeed, the list is endless my brain was pickled by the time I went through what I could remember, and you know what's its like, when I'd finished I remembered more! Indeed the PEP ( Prototype Electro Pnuematic ) 5 WES, not to mention the De- Icers we had, and we never got trained on them but weee expected to just accept it and drive them, units converted from SUBs, HALs mainly, I did drive a 2 BIL once, now that was an experience I can tell you , "Nut Crackers" we called them, flashes, clicks and bangs all over tge place, under yiur feet, behind you, above your head and absolutely no heating whatsoever in the cab! Like driving a fridge, freezing cold feet and hands, you were wrapped up like a woolly bear on those things, I remember Ice inside the cab on the windscreen!
Thanks for this. Really enjoyed it, and so well explained. I used to take them out of Waterloo as a Schoolboy just before they got retired. The modern stuff is so bland now :/
I was a Guard at Wimbledon Park ... And i was told that a CIG was a corridor intermediate guard
That's a relief to me to hear as that's what I was told at Southside Training School in the 80s, I guess ots a lot of "Old School" but I'd never known them as Corridor Brightons, just shows how time moves on, and in my humble opinion, Corridor Intermediate Gangway makes far more sense. Thanks for your comment, hope you enjoyed the video.
What did you call the 4 car set pushed pull by Class 33?
TC - Trailer Corridor/Composite
Nice chat...I always called them CIG (KIG) and CEP (KEP)...because of the corridor...why is the official pronouunciation which I only found out more recently SIG and SEP ---never understood why? TIA if you know...
I did explain in the video, CEP stands for Corridor Electro Pnuematic, CIG stands for Corridor "Brighton" as the letters "IG" stood for Brighton, but they wernt just allocated to Brighton, Bournemouth had them as home Depot on the South Western, I don't understand your reference as KIG or KEP SEP???? CEP - as per shown in the totle, CORRIDOR ELECTRO PNUEMATIC ( EP Braking system) as they were never known as such anywhere on the Southern Region nor SIG - no such thing Im afraid, the correct designation and classification is CIG ( yes pronounced SIG but so is CIG for Cigarette) Its just a regional thing but the SR had so many abbreviations for their stock, we Drivers learned them in 3 specific areas:-
1951 Stock - All Eastleigh Built
4 EPB
2 EPB
1957 Stock - All Eastleigh Built
4 CEP
4 BEP
3 CEP* later conversion prior to intro diction of 375 Electrostars on SE, and 2 x 3 CEPs 1198 & 1199 for Lymington Pier Branch on SW.
4 EPB
2 EPB
2 HAP
4 CAP
MLV
1963 Stock - Built at York
4 CIG
4 BIG
4 VEP
4 VOP* later conversion from 4 VEP
3 COP* later conversion from 4 VEP
4 VEG - Vestibule Electro Gatwick
1972 Prototypes
4 PEP Prototype Electro Pnuematic
@@hortoncommonmodelrailway I was just asking about the pronounciation of the C as in Cigar rather than Corridor...(corridor is not pronounced sorridor)
@@AntonyLvids ah OK, apologies, I misunderstood, hope things are a bit clearer now for you, being brought up with these trains in the south we got used to it all, and never called them or pronounced them any other way. Purely an area thing it seems