How We Imagined Pop Music Would Evolve

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  • Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
  • Is this the future of Pop music? In this episode I discuss Willow's new song "Symptom of Life" which alternates between a 7/4 verse and a 4/4 chorus, as well as utilizing sophisticated melodic and harmonic structures. 30 years ago, this was how I envisioned pop music would sound in the year 2024.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 3 тис.

  • @TheSeeking2know
    @TheSeeking2know 8 днів тому +676

    This is the most excited Rick has ever been about any modern pop music.
    Good work Willow and her collaborators!

    • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
      @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 6 днів тому +3

      I do think he would really appreciate Kali Uchis, although it's obvious Willow is aiming even way higher.

  • @franklopez4028
    @franklopez4028 7 днів тому +247

    One of things that blows me away about this song is how they fit all of this into an incredibly clear and focused mix.

    • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
      @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 6 днів тому +9

      She is very clever. Most of her songs go right to the point: they clearly display all of their innovative and interesting musical elements in a concise way (a minute and a half on average).
      She really is onto something here, she is creating an effective gateway from pop into jazz (something guys like Stevie Wonder or D'Angelo tried but failed to do imo).
      Maybe George Benson already did it, but in a more direct and less "daring" way. (He is still the singer/guitarist GOAT for me. 😅)

    • @thedude4594
      @thedude4594 6 днів тому +2

      That’s tiny desk

    • @franklopez4028
      @franklopez4028 5 днів тому +1

      @@thedude4594 I was talking about record but 💯 to TD as well.

    • @patientmental875
      @patientmental875 13 годин тому

      @@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 She is really onto something or is the person who wrote, arranged & produced it onto something?

    • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
      @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 12 годин тому

      @@patientmental875 She is too. It's true producers have tremendous input in their artists' direction, but one can really tell apart those who input their own artistry in their stuff (Willow, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, George Benson, Michael Jackson, The Beatles) from those that only follow orders or hire others to do the heavy lifting (Taylor Swift, Drake, Milli Vanilly, all the modern K-Pop groups).
      If we discredit musicians for following directions from producers, then we would have to discredit bands like The Beatles, Queen or Pink Floyd too. Most musical artists aren't total auteurs like Zappa or Prince in the first place, they are the exception.

  • @Stallagmite
    @Stallagmite 7 днів тому +83

    She actually goes deeper than people realize by incorporating Persian and Middle Eastern vocal techniques when she adds those fast vocal breaks, sometimes by kind of beating her chest. The beauty of it is that it fits so well you almost can't tell it's from another singing tradition.

  • @TheLYagAmi
    @TheLYagAmi 6 днів тому +201

    This song really is a hidden gem. The isolated piano sounds absolutely heavenly. Rick makes songs so much richer with these deep dives.

    • @DangleSan
      @DangleSan 4 дні тому +1

      Bro let's stop fooling ourselves, A bunch of Berkeley musicians are using a Hollywood child for popularity, I can't believe Rick praised willows singing🤦🏽 Well he couldn't recognize the AI voices but his wife and son could so this says something she's mid at best, She's like someone doing an impression of a really good singer gets way too crazy with her vocal ad libs it's CRINGE

    • @zentekno
      @zentekno 4 дні тому +3

      @@DangleSan Yep. It's better than Whip My Hair, at least. Rick should check out Haitus Kaiote if hasn't already, that's the stuff.

  • @custum18
    @custum18 8 днів тому +1174

    I give her credit for really working to improve and not just cruise on her name and simple pop/punk music.

    • @Kasino80
      @Kasino80 8 днів тому +53

      I'd completely forgotten she's a Smith.

    • @minmogrovingstrongandhealthy
      @minmogrovingstrongandhealthy 8 днів тому +27

      @@Kasino80 Hopefully the ego wont take over like the rest of them. Everyone in that family is mentally off ... she maybe the last hope.

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +31

      Yeah, I mean to be fair, if she was feeling the pop punk music and that was authentic for her, more power to her. This, however, is something that actually catches my interest

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +13

      @@Kasino80 right? I would be less hesitant to engage with this admittedly good music if it didn’t have that name on it. I just cannot stand that family, but she does deserve the chance to be evaluated on her own merits, so I’m trying to stay open minded

    • @ItsSomeDeadGuy
      @ItsSomeDeadGuy 8 днів тому +30

      Her pop punk music wasn't that simple, though. Some really interesting song structures and progression. And it's not like that's all she's been doing.

  • @ChrisEldridgeKino
    @ChrisEldridgeKino 8 днів тому +740

    If there's one thing Rick loves it's non-standard and unpredictable chord progressions

    • @ChristianMonfreudCesar
      @ChristianMonfreudCesar 8 днів тому +7

      😂😂 facts💯

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 8 днів тому +60

      Because it makes music fun to listen to, not boring like so much mainstream garbage out there.

    • @ChristopherPhillips
      @ChristopherPhillips 8 днів тому +5

      He must love Radiohead 😅

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 8 днів тому +13

      ⁠@@ChristopherPhillipsThanks to Radiohead, I-III-IV-iv is not so uncommon anymore.

    • @knaz7468
      @knaz7468 8 днів тому

      Him and Adam for sure!

  • @Jack_Simpson
    @Jack_Simpson 6 днів тому +101

    Trilling with the break of your voice while staying in tune is actually insane and takes soooo much control and awareness. She’s something special

    • @scifiwriter98
      @scifiwriter98 6 днів тому

      That's why I don't think it's really her singing.

    • @Jack_Simpson
      @Jack_Simpson 6 днів тому +15

      @@scifiwriter98 Given the recordings of live performances of her I’ve seen, my money’s on it being her.

    • @EtymTV
      @EtymTV 3 дні тому +9

      @@scifiwriter98that was tiny desk concert which is absolutely live

    • @AbaMiguel
      @AbaMiguel День тому +2

      @@scifiwriter98 what makes you say that? She's been singing her whole life

  • @gregheckman
    @gregheckman 7 днів тому +242

    Even if she isn't your thing... You HAVE to recognize the genius and sheer ingenuity of her music.
    Never mind the fact she is writing REALLY catchy modern jazz. Love it.

    • @neiladlington950
      @neiladlington950 6 днів тому +7

      Yeah, the modern jazz part was a surprise. I don't listen to pop music as I usually prefer anything but... And the last time I heard anything from Willow it was that "whip my hair" thing? But damn, that girl has come a long way and you don't get there without some serious commitment and practice. I can listen to this.

    • @alex24mamba
      @alex24mamba 6 днів тому +1

      Not my style at all, but I respect her voice, talent, and damn those musicians killed it.

    • @KenBreadbox
      @KenBreadbox 5 днів тому +3

      @@neiladlington950 Thank you for that bit of context. I absolutely DETEST that "whip my hair" crap. Hard to believe it's the same person.

    • @TheGnuisancev3
      @TheGnuisancev3 5 днів тому +10

      she's a rich kid who's been a pop rapper, then pop punk rocker and now this. she's grown up in Hollywood, a truly privileged life and I'd be curious how much of this was constructed by people around her. Great song and I wish pop would go this way. but there's nothing ground-up or organic about her.

    • @gregheckman
      @gregheckman 5 днів тому +7

      ​@@TheGnuisancev3you really need to read the credits a bit better. The early stuff (which I don't care for) war written and produced for her. The newer records? All her. That's a musical genius pushing through. Just sayin.

  • @Keverember
    @Keverember 8 днів тому +1841

    I didn’t have Willow Smith putting out a catchy jazz-influenced pop song in 7 on my 2024 bingo card.

    • @Cloudbuster1987
      @Cloudbuster1987 8 днів тому +77

      You better listen to the album, it's great. Not just this song.

    • @C.SchitzPopinov
      @C.SchitzPopinov 8 днів тому +4

      😆

    • @i-never-look-at-replies-lol
      @i-never-look-at-replies-lol 8 днів тому +33

      But does she really have anything to do with it? The music industry just attaches name to other people's work.

    • @Keverember
      @Keverember 8 днів тому +98

      @@i-never-look-at-replies-lol she’s credited as a writer, but you never know. But I do know that executing that melody is extremely impressive regardless.

    • @junkandcrapamen
      @junkandcrapamen 8 днів тому +21

      Actually, she's released two. Check out "Big Feelings". Also in 7 and also fire.

  • @liquidsolids9415
    @liquidsolids9415 8 днів тому +202

    David Bennet Piano has two videos on this song, including an interview with the piano player where he talks about the chord voicings. Cool song!

    • @LukasVlcek
      @LukasVlcek 7 днів тому +13

      This needs to be the pinned comment.

    • @lawsonj39
      @lawsonj39 6 днів тому +6

      Yep. In one, he interviews the pianist who helped write the song; apparently a team put the chords and rhythms together then handed it over to Willow to create the melody and lyrics. Sounds a lot like the descriptions I've heard of Taylor Swift's process, but the end product here is way different.

    • @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266
      @rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 6 днів тому +3

      ​@@lawsonj39Yup, but it's actually a totally different proccess. The Beatles did the same as Willow, they worked with a group of genius producers and session musicians, but they thenselves had the musical ability to discern what to use and how to combine it with their songwriting, same thing for The Rolling Stones (in their early days) or The Beach Boys (Brian Wilson actually had huge creative input in the whole process, but he did use tons of session musicians to his advantage) or even more recently Michael Jackson.
      What Taylor does is: she pays Max Martin to do EVERYTHING FOR HER, to discern the simplest shortcut to go viral and, that's it. She is the antipode of musical creativity in a way.

    • @jwallaby7895
      @jwallaby7895 5 днів тому +3

      @@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266if she gels with the musical process i think its a bit harsh to call her the antipode of creativity lol. She probably deserves to be thought of as a session vocalist at worst. But i figure most pop" artists" just dont deserve all the credit...literally look at the credits of most songs....its anywhere between 5 and 13 ppl on average.

    • @liquidsolids9415
      @liquidsolids9415 5 днів тому

      @@LukasVlcek Thank you!

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba1000 7 днів тому +96

    Kind of brings to mind aspects of Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, Ivana Santilli, Tori Amos

    • @lostinmybackyard2006
      @lostinmybackyard2006 6 днів тому +2

      And Ian Anderson. I swear it's like listening to 1972 Jethro Tull.

    • @intellectualesemv
      @intellectualesemv 2 дні тому +1

      I was just thinking it'd be cool to hear Tori Amos cover this

    • @leorduran
      @leorduran 2 години тому

      YES!!!!

  • @Tanshanomi
    @Tanshanomi 7 днів тому +19

    As a musical dunderhead, I so appreciate someone who points out the specific elements I should be appreciating but don’t know enough to pick out or understand on my own.

  • @mortonwilson795
    @mortonwilson795 8 днів тому +532

    Those first few piano bars just grab you and then there's no escape . . . wow, what a song, singer, band. There's hope, then!

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +26

      I agree. Some in the comments are saying it’s more of an intellectual exercise and that it has no hook, but I find it immediately gripping - and trust me, I don’t want to! I really don’t like the Smith family lol but this is too good to deny

    • @cooldebt
      @cooldebt 8 днів тому +9

      That opening piano sounds a bit like the intro of Message in a Bottle

    • @MrJesse1288
      @MrJesse1288 8 днів тому +6

      I was thinking that the weird time play was very Copeland-esqe

    • @nath9233
      @nath9233 8 днів тому

      ​@@cooldebt 100% the same

    • @jamesgulapa7219
      @jamesgulapa7219 8 днів тому +1

      There's hope... that's what i said as well

  • @JonManos
    @JonManos 8 днів тому +509

    Nice to hear new pop music going completely over my head for a change

    • @muzikgod
      @muzikgod 8 днів тому +33

      It's not pop music which is why it went over your head!

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 8 днів тому +7

      @@muzikgodIt's too advanced to be pop!

    • @chuckamok12
      @chuckamok12 7 днів тому +12

      @@muzikgod of course it's pop, it has a catchy melody and a solid beat - it's pop.

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa 6 днів тому +2

      I feel like normal pop music goes over most heads

    • @muzikgod
      @muzikgod 6 днів тому +2

      @@OdaKa Do you think this song is pop music?

  • @thewhim8151
    @thewhim8151 День тому +23

    "She's so talented but I don't like her because of her parents" is such an INSANE take, can y'all hear yourselves?!?!

  • @poppolooii8000
    @poppolooii8000 4 дні тому +9

    Her band is definitely a group of musical talented and passionate people who love the art

  • @rudebuddha4895
    @rudebuddha4895 8 днів тому +94

    I heard Willow's "Meet Me At Our Spot" a few weeks ago because someone used a clip of it on a "short" YT video showing how to clean a dogs ears. I got out my phone and Shazam'd it. I was blown away watching the official artist video and wondered how this was released two years ago and just now heard it. Stange times for discovering new music and their non-traditional ways of getting sun in the dense forest of new artists and music. So I'm thrilled to see Rick highlighting her exceptional talent.

    • @limer4330
      @limer4330 8 днів тому +3

      Meet me at our spot is a cool tune.

    • @tetianadmytrenko6089
      @tetianadmytrenko6089 7 днів тому

      Oh God, cleaning dogs' ears😅 this is a modern way of discovering the music.

    • @BlakeH..888_
      @BlakeH..888_ 7 днів тому +3

      The only songs I've heard from her are Meet Me at Our Spot and Wait a Minute and I enjoyed both of them a lot even though they're not what I usually listen to.

    • @lynnestong7286
      @lynnestong7286 6 днів тому +3

      I’m a 60 year old Grandmom that mainly likes rock music & When I heard “Meet Me at Our Spot” (the live version on UA-cam) for the first time, I was in love with it. For some reason it gives me a strong feeling of nostalgia. (longing for my youth I guess lol) And then I heard her song “ Wait A Minute”. And I liked it too 😮. I surprised myself because I was always just about rock n roll…She has a beautiful & unique voice and style.

    • @theoldkidrocker
      @theoldkidrocker 6 днів тому +1

      I forgot about that song "Meet Me At Our Spot" I heard it when Kelly Clarkson did a Kellyoke of it when it came out so I looked up Willows Original and really liked it... I saved it to a list this time lol great tune and her talent was shining then.....

  • @descendingforth
    @descendingforth 8 днів тому +316

    That whole Tiny Desk performance is just amazing. It truly blew me away!

    • @iiwi758
      @iiwi758 8 днів тому +8

      The people behind Tiny Desk have excellent taste and a good sense for what fits their format. Nearly all performances they put together are interesting in some way.

    • @theoriginalheartstrummer
      @theoriginalheartstrummer 8 днів тому +4

      Seriously? Willow sounds like Yoko Ono to me. No-technique caterwauling; just that empty hot-air that passes for emotion typical of the expression of most "woke" people her age. The rhythm and harmony may have more going on than a lot of modern pop, but so what? That doesn't make it exceptional by any means. OMG it's in SEVEN! Big deal. Just because Rick thinks it's "cool" doesn't mean anything to me. It just sounds so fake and plastic. I WISH it had substance, but why would I expect that from Willow Smith?

    • @descendingforth
      @descendingforth 7 днів тому +2

      @@theoriginalheartstrummer but surely you have to respect the musicians that are playing in the video??? I was talking about the tiny desk performance not Willow Smith as a musician🤦‍♂️

    • @descendingforth
      @descendingforth 7 днів тому +7

      @@theoriginalheartstrummer What a boring take as well. Its a well put together performance and it sounds great why can't you just admit that?

    • @andrewthompson7707
      @andrewthompson7707 7 днів тому

      ​@@descendingforthit's just fast-paced passages put together there's no Unforgettable hook or Rift there

  • @stephenroth3299
    @stephenroth3299 7 днів тому +74

    This is why I love today's new wave of Emo coming out. Jazzy, mathy, and beautiful choruses with heart breaking lyrics

  • @coolbluerecharge
    @coolbluerecharge 7 днів тому +120

    Not gonna lie, this has me whipping my hair back and forth.

  • @sleven8013
    @sleven8013 8 днів тому +292

    I’m a prog metal/rock kind of guy with a bit of 90s grunge love sprinkled with jazz fusion and this really tickles my fancy. Didn’t know modern pop could sound this good. Bangin!

    • @mdav30
      @mdav30 8 днів тому +13

      Rick just hopes this is the future of pop because he loves jazz. No way. This is jazz, will remain not "pop" for that reason.

    • @geepike
      @geepike 8 днів тому +16

      @@mdav30 in an ideal world music like this, Fiona Apple, Eryka Badu, Joni Mitchell etc could kick off again in a big way as a knee jerk 180• of whats going on in pop a la The Grunge scene in the 90s. Not likely, but not impossible. Im confident noone was betting on the “Whip My Hair” Smith daughter putting THIS out, so…theres always hope haha

    • @harimathur2191
      @harimathur2191 8 днів тому +4

      It's not really modern. It's old school genX type song. Very 90s piano, Seal-like... bass line is dead 90s. Beats are 90s.

    • @thomasluby1754
      @thomasluby1754 8 днів тому

      I give your comment an "F". Could you be any more specific?

    • @davidherdman5549
      @davidherdman5549 8 днів тому

      Me too and me too

  • @ButterWilliam
    @ButterWilliam 8 днів тому +733

    The future of pop is Joni Mitchell, love it

    • @fortheloveofmusic192
      @fortheloveofmusic192 8 днів тому +86

      I was feeling the Joni vibe as well. No issues with that.

    • @rundoetx
      @rundoetx 8 днів тому +13

      I agree.

    • @maxzape9003
      @maxzape9003 8 днів тому +33

      Beat me to it! Joni would be proud.

    • @ScottsGuitar
      @ScottsGuitar 8 днів тому +90

      Funny I was at Tori Amos but yea, same lineage lol

    • @davidlee5580
      @davidlee5580 8 днів тому +33

      @@ScottsGuitarYeah the piano had me thinking of Tori

  • @richardleveille3254
    @richardleveille3254 6 днів тому +10

    My 16 year-old son introduced me to Willow a couple of years ago. She is awesome! One of the few “new” pop artists I regularly listen to.

  • @mugen-PT
    @mugen-PT День тому +3

    And there were people on Instagram hating in the comments ... Honestly, nothing gets a chance anymore. Happy to hear an opinion from someone who knows what they're talking about.

  • @acason4
    @acason4 8 днів тому +151

    Willow Smith is a A++ vocalist. Her album “Coping Mechanism” is really incredible. The vocal melodies & half the songs on the album are bangers!

    • @kennethwilliams4725
      @kennethwilliams4725 6 днів тому

      I'm gonna go and check it out!!!

    • @acason4
      @acason4 6 днів тому

      @@kennethwilliams4725
      Check out:
      Curious/Furious
      No Control
      Maybe It’s My Fault
      Split
      Why
      Coping Mechanism
      All incredible tracks & the vocal work (melodies & harmonies) is some of the greatest vocal work I’m ever heard. The album is kind of like Deftones meets “pop/punk” which might sound strange, but damn does she pull it off. I was really blown away. Hope you like it.

    • @kuntbae3773
      @kuntbae3773 6 днів тому

      wrong, it’s awful

    • @acason4
      @acason4 6 днів тому +4

      @@kuntbae3773
      Nah, you’re wrong.

    • @neladesign
      @neladesign 2 дні тому +2

      Her capability of sing other rhythms including rock (hard one) shows her habillities to do whatever what she would like to do, because its a grean musician and impresive singer, not all pop singers could do that!

  • @LetsGoBruins77
    @LetsGoBruins77 8 днів тому +79

    Happy you covered this!

  • @xanthippas
    @xanthippas 3 дні тому +9

    Man, I wish I could hear even 1/10 of what Rick picks up in a song. Maybe if I watch enough of these videos one day I will!

  • @viceshark
    @viceshark 7 днів тому +10

    There are sounds that force me to tears. I truly can't do a thing about it. This performance is absolutely one of them.

    • @Les00970
      @Les00970 7 днів тому

      Me too,but not Willow Smith. Jeff Beck JB'S Blues, Dead can Dance-Senvean,Sade ..........

  • @Steve_ATL
    @Steve_ATL 8 днів тому +36

    I came across this Tiny Desks the other day and was blow away. I am glad Willow is getting more complicated music out to the pop listeners.

  • @romeDCfc
    @romeDCfc 8 днів тому +79

    I could listen to that over and over again. I'd struggle to categorize this as Pop, but that's another thing to me that makes the song interesting.

    • @yvltc
      @yvltc 8 днів тому +19

      I agree, I can't say this is pop

    • @amylaw3416
      @amylaw3416 8 днів тому +11

      Ya this is jazz. The future of jazz. Glad jazz is coming back into the mainstream. I LOVE Jazz pop.

    • @georgewoolf6300
      @georgewoolf6300 8 днів тому +2

      Yep, this is Jazz... Rick is just overreacting because we have too much simple simon music today. It's a good song, but not honestly anything mind blowing or special, but then again I'm a Meshell Ndegeocello fan so my musical tastes are broad.

    • @vanessaseymour2634
      @vanessaseymour2634 8 днів тому

      The entire album, Empathogen, is categorized as alternative jazz/pop.

    • @TheSeeking2know
      @TheSeeking2know 8 днів тому +2

      Jazz was once the pop of it's day. The pop of the future is going to be a fusion of influences moving slightly away from the just the dance and R&B influences that have dominated.

  • @johnskilly
    @johnskilly 7 днів тому +10

    Happy to see you are covering this, I saw this tiny desk show on my feed some months ago and was blown away by Willow´s
    performance.

  • @CypiXmusic
    @CypiXmusic 5 днів тому +16

    Who knew the girl, that *_"whipped her hair back and forth"_* would come to safe Pop music

  • @DeeNeuro
    @DeeNeuro 8 днів тому +81

    reminds me of Esperanza Spalding.

    • @jerryp3148
      @jerryp3148 8 днів тому +7

      That's exactly what I was thinking...very interesting stuff.

    • @destinationsunnyside250
      @destinationsunnyside250 8 днів тому

      👍

    • @tyrone2k
      @tyrone2k 8 днів тому +3

      yes. My thoughts exactly.... which is good.

    • @tulp_graphics
      @tulp_graphics 6 днів тому +2

      Also a bit of Lianne la Havas.

    • @blessing291
      @blessing291 3 дні тому +2

      same thought too while watching her tiny desk performance ✋🏼

  • @ScentlessSun
    @ScentlessSun 8 днів тому +63

    A song in 7! That is awesome. And they rocked it. Such a great vocal flow by Willow live.

    • @sidalientv
      @sidalientv 8 днів тому

      "Tom Sawyer" and "Whitin you without you" entered the chat.

  • @starrr365
    @starrr365 День тому +2

    This whole album is so great, I highly recommend listening to the whole thing

  • @donnyoung5481
    @donnyoung5481 8 днів тому +2

    Finally Willow getting the recognition she deserves. Her music is a breath of fresh air from what's out there today. The whole band is soo talented

  • @sleepyzebras_
    @sleepyzebras_ 8 днів тому +24

    I discovered this song few months back when David Bennett made a video on it. Such a unique pop song in today’s often copy of a copy musical landscape.

  • @Cosmoborracho
    @Cosmoborracho 8 днів тому +135

    It's giving me a "If Tori Amos wrote Kiss From A Rose" vibe but at this point, that's blasphemous because it's in a whole 'nother universe of cool. Absolutely loving this!

    • @richardgreenwoodjr5263
      @richardgreenwoodjr5263 8 днів тому +19

      Was getting Tori Amos vibes as well- glad I'm not the only one lol.

    • @nilsbauer6994
      @nilsbauer6994 8 днів тому +3

      Oh that's actually a very good parallel / comparison. It's obviously it's own thing, but Toni Mitchell, Tori Amos and Kiss From A Rose definitely feel familiar to this. Loving it

    • @RoryRonde
      @RoryRonde 8 днів тому +3

      that is actually a very good description!

    • @NRG2
      @NRG2 8 днів тому +2

      Noooooo. Do not put the spawn of Will Smith in the same sentence as Tori Amos. The world is afflicted by every breath they take.

    • @jeffwolinski2659
      @jeffwolinski2659 7 днів тому +2

      Ha, great analogy, I totally hear that!

  • @valentinabouffier6544
    @valentinabouffier6544 7 днів тому +6

    i was really hoping this video was made. its such a good sooooong!!

  • @fofopho
    @fofopho 6 днів тому +3

    The original bass is amazing, but the way Mohini plays on it live is sooooo damn good

  • @kennethhoneycutt4513
    @kennethhoneycutt4513 8 днів тому +170

    Not to mention Dey-base on bass is killing it

    • @NikZ500
      @NikZ500 8 днів тому

      ua-cam.com/video/7FKEy_RWwQk/v-deo.htmlsi=k1f5XDgAoh7plWgU
      Check her insane solo almost 10-12 years back

    • @scootaymildo1070
      @scootaymildo1070 8 днів тому +1

      I was wondering if that was her. I've only been aware of her for the last month or so and my god, what a player!

    • @MrJohnnyAOA
      @MrJohnnyAOA 8 днів тому +4

      She did not play the bass on the record. Still kicks a$$ on the tiny desk performance though

    • @kennethhoneycutt4513
      @kennethhoneycutt4513 8 днів тому +2

      @@MrJohnnyAOA No, if you go back and look up tiny NPR Tiny desk, you will clearly see her. I don't know who played bass on the studio cut.But rick biano was Playing a clip from n p r along with the studio

    • @kennethhoneycutt4513
      @kennethhoneycutt4513 8 днів тому +1

      @@scootaymildo1070 There is a show that I watch it's called NPR Tiny desk, that's the clip. He was, she was in her band on that. But I was just informed on here that that wasn't her in the studio cut.

  • @soundproductionandadvice
    @soundproductionandadvice 8 днів тому +62

    The Pocket Queen on Drums. Last saw her with Greg Philanganes doing an Omnisphere live demo. She's superb.

    • @Tom-dv6ei
      @Tom-dv6ei 8 днів тому +12

      Her and the bassist in that Tiny Desk video...Such a pleasure to watch them bounce of each other. They are so on it! and you can see they're truly enjoying what they're doing.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 8 днів тому +7

      I thought Rick would know who she is, but no..........

    • @TimDaleMusic
      @TimDaleMusic 8 днів тому +2

      Agreed, she was awesome on that Spectrasonics demo

    • @marshac1479
      @marshac1479 8 днів тому +6

      ​@@krusher74 Indeed. He could have looked on the Tiny desk website to find out who she is and namechecked her. She's a great drummer.

  • @aaronorjohnson
    @aaronorjohnson День тому +1

    The guitarist doin' some Jonny Greenwood stuff on that guitar and it adds such an effect to the song without overpowering other instruments.

  • @yonikup2865
    @yonikup2865 7 днів тому +7

    Thank you for introducing me to this amazing track!

  • @eximusic
    @eximusic 8 днів тому +94

    Almost all the artists on tiny desk concerts are amazing. It's a good gauge of the quality of music coming out today. No shortage of brilliant artists in 2024. Funny how NPR, public radio, and public radio listeners all know this, but no one else seems to.

    • @rksnj6797
      @rksnj6797 7 днів тому +3

      I love Tiny Desk Concerts!

    • @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson
      @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson 7 днів тому +11

      KEXP is a great source too, especially for alt

    • @Iantrypsk
      @Iantrypsk 7 днів тому +3

      @@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson both have some stinky music because is really diverse and is a good thing, brings you out of the algorithm bubble. You can create some powerful bubbles online.

    • @paulwooton4390
      @paulwooton4390 7 днів тому +5

      NPR has some quality programs (case in point). Their news division isn't one of them...tedious sjw crusaders when an honest reporter would suffice.

    • @eximusic
      @eximusic 7 днів тому +3

      @@paulwooton4390 Ok, not the topic. Kind of hard to reply to generalizations with no specifics.

  • @Itsleakim
    @Itsleakim 8 днів тому +128

    Glad to see Rick excited about contemporary music again. There is so much cool new music being made. You just have to look for it and stop being annoyed at what's on the charts. Because let's be honest, was there ever a time when you liked the majority of the top 10 songs on the charts? (except for when ya'll where 14 years old?) A lot of our all time favourite songs never made it into the top 10, so why do we expect to find our new favourite songs there?

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +31

      Thank you! Some welcomed words of wisdom around here. I don’t know why Rick grumbling about top 40 music has become so popular on the channel, but it is low effort, insulting to the intelligence of his audience and undermines his own open-mindedness. Much rather see him elevating the positive

    • @mar7838
      @mar7838 8 днів тому +14

      I agree. Been saying this for a long time. There is so much amazing (pop) music being made right now. More than ever. My theory is that the new generations have all this great information available. And use it to make some amazing stuff.
      I think it's always more productive to praise the good artist than complaining about the boring songs in some Spotify Top 10. So I want to give credit to Rick. He made this video. And has made others where he speak to and about new artists who make great music.
      So we should really thank him to introduce his audience to Willow Smith. Hope we will hear more of her.

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 8 днів тому +3

      We don't- and you're missing the point. We don't expect to find what we like, but we expect to find something with at least some complexity and depth to it. Not two chord, pop culture, bubble gum that sounds like it was written on the way to the recording session. When I was a kid I hated pop music- but the stuff that was popular, was complex and difficult to play or figure out- the ppl who were performing it had obvious talent- even if it wasn't my kind of music. I can't say that any longer- nor can I even trust that this really is a popular song- the streaming services lie. The highest bidder gets their song at the top of the list- whether it's any good or not. Well- either the highest bidder or- their new AI artist. Think about the impact that's already having on the music scene. Think about the impact it has on our culture. It's not good.

    • @lzbgenna
      @lzbgenna 8 днів тому +4

      My thoughts exactly. Happy that Rik is starting to discover or at least showcase a bit of the amazing music currently being produced. Hope this trend continues on the channel.

    • @seanbeadles7421
      @seanbeadles7421 8 днів тому +7

      @@stoneysdead689the only time this was true was during the Tin Pan Alley days, and I bet you’re not 120. For example, every do-wop song in the 50s and 60s is basically one chord progression. There’s about a dozen different blues songs that have the Johnny b. Goode intro.

  • @soph.b6054
    @soph.b6054 7 днів тому +2

    Been non-stop listening to this album since it's release- glad you finally gave it a listen!

  • @GT-mq1dx
    @GT-mq1dx 4 дні тому +1

    Melancholy yet uplifting, poppy but progressive. That was something new to my ears that I wish there would be more of in this day and age. There are a lot of gems out there, I guess you just have to be looking for them.
    This reminds me of two songs from a long time ago; Seal’s Kiss from a Rose and Peter Gabriel’s Games Without Frontiers.
    Both of them beautiful, each in its own right.

  • @LSchulz1414
    @LSchulz1414 8 днів тому +17

    There are a lot of special things going on (time signature, note choices, chords) and it still flows. Amazing balance between simplicity and complexity.

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +2

      Did you maybe mean “complexity”?

    • @LSchulz1414
      @LSchulz1414 7 днів тому +1

      @@EchoMountain47 yeah, now it makes a bit more sense. Thank You!

  • @titanicsinclair
    @titanicsinclair 8 днів тому +145

    It's so cool to see Chris Greatti finally getting the praise he deserves as a writer/producer. I've had the pleasure to work with him a lot over the years. He's a genius producer and musician.

    • @thankyouforyourcompliance7386
      @thankyouforyourcompliance7386 8 днів тому +4

      Everyone is a genius in today's US media. What about some humble approach and hard work.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 8 днів тому +7

      Rick is such a flailing fangirl in this. Did not mention the writer producer once.

    • @seanandben
      @seanandben 8 днів тому +8

      @@krusher74 The song was written by Willow, Chris Greatti & Brad Oberhofer, and produced by Chris Greatti. It seems like more of a Chris Greatti song that just happens to be sung by Willow - (an undoubtedly talented singer) - but that seems to be the way things are done with a lot of artists these days - multiple songwriters and in some cases multiple producers on hit records. Symptom of Life was released on March 12th, 2024, and until I saw Rick's over excited video today - June 17th - I never heard of Willow or the song.

    • @TheMister123
      @TheMister123 8 днів тому +9

      @@seanandben David Bennett Piano did an interview with Brad Oberhofer over on his channel, published just a few days ago. Brad outlines who contributed what to the song. I haven't memorized the credits for the whole album yet, but I think Willow wrote some of the album on her own.

    • @writemeyers
      @writemeyers 8 днів тому

      @@TheMister123thank you! I'll go check that out. The previous replies insinuating that Rick isn't crediting people or that this is only the result of multi-producers, seems to forget that most of that output is empty pablum.

  • @julianduarte1985
    @julianduarte1985 7 днів тому +2

    Starting the Beato Ear Training Course!!!! I hope someday I get to understand all kinds of music the way Rick does.

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 7 днів тому +1

    08:15 also love that drum roll. Feels like just the right amout of hits at just the right volume so it's pushing the tune from the middle of the mix

  • @dougbarrett43
    @dougbarrett43 8 днів тому +38

    Is anyone else getting Vince Guaraldi vibes from that piano progression?

  • @ChristChickAutistic
    @ChristChickAutistic 8 днів тому +86

    She's legit good, really good. Best thing to come out of that family, imho. Gives me hope that music isn't dead.

    • @Brucetheguitarist
      @Brucetheguitarist 6 днів тому +2

      Thank you 🎉

    • @ChristChickAutistic
      @ChristChickAutistic 6 днів тому +1

      @@Brucetheguitarist Um, you're welcome? I'm sorry, I just don't understand why you're thanking me, lol! 😁

    • @Brucetheguitarist
      @Brucetheguitarist 6 днів тому +2

      @@ChristChickAutistic haha my bad I was meaning like thank you for saying this. A lot of hate comments on this post so it’s good to see some good ones

    • @ChristChickAutistic
      @ChristChickAutistic 6 днів тому +4

      @@Brucetheguitarist I just don't see the point in all that, lol! I'm old school, I was raised that "if you can't say nothing nice, don't say anything", lol! More folks should learn that. She put out a banger song, period, she should have her flowers for it.

  • @bencrozier
    @bencrozier 6 днів тому

    Rick’s authentic passion for music is contagious! He’s like the uncle I wish I had that I could go to and learn from!

  • @paulmartin8212
    @paulmartin8212 3 дні тому +1

    I'm 70 years old, old rocker. Not my style but can appreciate the musicianship in 7. Amazing vocal too. Great band, really tight.

  • @junkandcrapamen
    @junkandcrapamen 8 днів тому +19

    Was waiting for you to catch on to this awesomeness.
    The entire album "Empathogen" is fire.

    • @Albatross-365
      @Albatross-365 8 днів тому

      cover looks weird. her natural smile would look better

  • @timangus
    @timangus 8 днів тому +38

    Very reminiscent of Esperanza Spalding to my ear.

    • @bolder2009
      @bolder2009 8 днів тому +1

      I agree

    • @nunnayabiz7911
      @nunnayabiz7911 8 днів тому +1

      That's what I was thinking too.

    • @mkatepaski9947
      @mkatepaski9947 8 днів тому +1

      Yes

    • @kybernes
      @kybernes 7 днів тому +1

      Yes to some extent and to me that’s a huge compliment! And then there is much more… we shouldn’t reduce anybody to our references, right? I mean this gorgeous young lady is singing her heart out here! Wonderful!

  • @DirkLeibenguth
    @DirkLeibenguth 8 днів тому +1

    Heard this song last week for the first time and I was totally blown away. I can listen to it over and over again and there’s always something to discover. A gem in todays mostly boring pop music 👏

  • @LosantoBeats
    @LosantoBeats 17 годин тому

    This song and most of the album just perfectly expresses the complexity of life. Being on beat, and off beat. "In tune" and "out of tune". Its beautiful.

  • @nickgjenkins
    @nickgjenkins 8 днів тому +32

    I was NOT expecting this. What a cool song!!!!!

  • @fortheloveofmusic192
    @fortheloveofmusic192 8 днів тому +62

    Crusty classic rocker here. This is good stuff! Even though there are a lot of things going on in this song, it doesn't sound over produced.

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +9

      You make a good point. Impressive songs are complicated; the most impressive songs are complicated but sound simple. It’s hard to take all these musical ideas and make them sound so coherent and easy to listen to. I think everybody responsible for this track deserves a lot of credit for that

    • @geepike
      @geepike 8 днів тому

      VERY heavily produced, but all to great purpose! 🔥 The band does a great job live and Willow sings well too

  • @cryaotiel
    @cryaotiel 8 днів тому +1

    As soon as I heard it, and kept on listening it on loop again and again, I was hoping you'd react to it! So happy to see this video!

  • @willcartoons
    @willcartoons 7 днів тому +1

    Nice to see R&B music still exists 🙂 Willow Smith's voice is amazing!

  • @bobboberson2024
    @bobboberson2024 8 днів тому +52

    Willow really knocks this out. A very cool jazzy vibe - with a vocal line Al Jarreau would be happy with. But it’s not something you walk out humming.

    • @pdkett1
      @pdkett1 8 днів тому +6

      ..not recommended for Swifties unless accompanied by an adult when listening.

    • @arachnidiscs
      @arachnidiscs 8 днів тому +6

      Yeah, I’d say this is not a pop song and is not the future of pop music. It’s an art song and sits comfortably in the grand tradition of Joni Mitchell and Tori Amos (though a bit funkier like if they’d had the Headhunters backing them).

    • @TheSeeking2know
      @TheSeeking2know 8 днів тому +1

      That syncopated repeated section is definitely memorable to me.

    • @nowondr
      @nowondr 7 днів тому

      @@TheSeeking2know yeah the harmonies are complex, but the main melodic stuff is pretty easy on the ears and memorable to me too. been stuck in my head

    • @VampireHeart518
      @VampireHeart518 7 днів тому

      First off, I disagree, I find it quite ''hummable''. Secondly... what's with the 'but'? What do you mean? (is it about pop?)

  • @johngulak5721
    @johngulak5721 8 днів тому +142

    wow... she sings the hell out of that and the band is killer. Rick, this must be giving you some serious hope for the future...lol

  • @nadiauribe6202
    @nadiauribe6202 5 днів тому +1

    That tiny desk session is amazing. I like Willow's style

  • @ShilajitDasMahapatra
    @ShilajitDasMahapatra 7 днів тому +1

    my absolute favorite song right now. it's my most played song in spotify since the last two months. So glad Rick did a breakdown of this!!

  • @Whitestripe71
    @Whitestripe71 8 днів тому +10

    I was hoping you'd do a video about this song - I've barely stopped listening to it since it came out! I love it. Everything about it, every tiny detail, is so perfectly and tastefully done - it sounds fresh and futuristic in the best possible way. A phenomenal song, and a great video as always, Rick.

  • @trillion42
    @trillion42 8 днів тому +14

    This gives me hope for the future of music

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 8 днів тому +7

      There are 120,000 songs uploaded to spotify a day its not about the music, its about the machine that picks which few of those songs get forced on the masses. Thats "pop music"

  • @WitchKing99
    @WitchKing99 7 днів тому +1

    I daydream about a world where sophisticated and ridiculously progressive music is the mainstream. This looks like one step closer to that world and it makes me happy! :D

  • @mauchoamusic
    @mauchoamusic День тому +2

    Some parts of the song reminds me of "kiss from a rose", from Seal. The "dancing chords" part.

  • @davidjohnmorse
    @davidjohnmorse 8 днів тому +24

    It's good to see you excited about new music Rick! Thanks for turning us onto this artist, she's awesome.

  • @relativetimeworx8459
    @relativetimeworx8459 8 днів тому +79

    Touches of Tori, touches of Joni... and a unique flavor all its own. Super impressive.

    • @douglasmorris81
      @douglasmorris81 8 днів тому +7

      The piano and her voice made me think of Tori immediately

    • @EchoMountain47
      @EchoMountain47 8 днів тому +3

      I’ve been a Tori Amos fan since 1996 and I don’t hear anything particularly reminiscent of her music. Female vocals and there’s a piano in the mix, I guess? That’s a pretty tenuous connection at best

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 8 днів тому +1

      @@douglasmorris81 👍Looking for this comment

    • @rebeccamarkey2760
      @rebeccamarkey2760 8 днів тому +2

      @@EchoMountain47 I looked for this comment because I heard T, as well.

    • @abandonedbrain
      @abandonedbrain 8 днів тому +3

      Yus! Tori for damn sure, but wow. I honestly didn't think I'd ever again hear someone come close to the songwriting chops of Tori, but then I thought the same of Kate Bush and I was wrong... Willow is damn impressive. Spanks EVERY singer/songwriter out there the past five years. Prog R&B in the '20s? Nice.

  • @cahdash
    @cahdash 6 днів тому +13

    so, basically radiohead meets neo-soul

  • @mandygarfitt5807
    @mandygarfitt5807 7 днів тому

    Tiny Desk Concerts have been around for a few year's now. Great way of experiencing your favourite artists live as well as new music close up ❤

  • @user-xp9nx6mm1n
    @user-xp9nx6mm1n 8 днів тому +11

    Rick! The quality of great new - for me - music I've found here is staggering. As are your insights that you share.
    THANK YOU!

  • @mikeryan2454
    @mikeryan2454 8 днів тому +63

    Shit credit where due…she’s legit.

  • @tommeyer6033
    @tommeyer6033 7 днів тому +1

    Thanks Rick, glad to have this on my playlist and will be following Willow now. 🤩

  • @thomasdiviesti
    @thomasdiviesti 8 днів тому +3

    Great video as always Rick! Nice chords

  • @binkywarren21
    @binkywarren21 8 днів тому +66

    Willow, if you're reading this - we support you!....And thank you for using your own voice. Not auto-tune!

  • @clarissagafoor5222
    @clarissagafoor5222 8 днів тому +4

    This is fantastic. So glad that today`s music has such a great future! and everyone is having so much fun.
    And all those chord changes thrill my heart.

  • @marticevopice
    @marticevopice 7 днів тому +1

    Also the previous album from Willlow is amazing!

  • @kubace5398
    @kubace5398 4 дні тому

    Fell in love with that song 2 months ago or so. To say that I share Rick's enthusiasm would be an understatement ;-) So grateful for this video!

  • @dplagoon
    @dplagoon 8 днів тому +4

    I was just waiting for you to do a Willow song. I knew you would appreciate the complexity. There are so many good songs on that album too.

  • @manuel_ao
    @manuel_ao 8 днів тому +8

    I learnt about her through Mariusz Duda (Riverside frontman) who was also amazed at a pop artist releasing such a song. Nice to see that you're also promoting her - in the age if IA, these are the artists who will stand out.

  • @saguntandukar940
    @saguntandukar940 3 дні тому +1

    I like when you appreciate and highlight good music

  • @gavin2391
    @gavin2391 8 днів тому

    So unique! I have a feeling we're gonna be referencing this for a while

  • @Fender420
    @Fender420 8 днів тому +28

    Bass Player is great

    • @mkatepaski9947
      @mkatepaski9947 8 днів тому +5

      Check out Rick's interview with her ( Mohini Dey ) from about 3 or 4 months ago, it's a fun one.

    • @f.kieranfinney457
      @f.kieranfinney457 8 днів тому

      I actually wish we heard more from her in this piece. It’s a little rudderless.

  • @johnmurphy5739
    @johnmurphy5739 8 днів тому +5

    I hear message in a bottle in that progression and then tori amos/kate bush vibe. But man its way more interesting than 99% of radio these days

  • @762nato1
    @762nato1 4 дні тому +2

    So glad you covered this. I've been listening to this entire album on repeat for weeks now. The WHOLE thing is amazing. She's so versatile...multiple styles of singing, incredible arrangements, awesome writing and production...I can't say enough. She deserves tons of recognition. She's everything Taylor Swift SHOULD be.

  • @johncondon4081
    @johncondon4081 6 днів тому +1

    The cluster chords on the piano. Amazing

  • @chrisc4264
    @chrisc4264 8 днів тому +7

    It's a welcome relief to hear something thats not auto tuned or severely AI enhanced. Vocal wise it reminds me of a mix of Joni Mitchell and Larry Hill. Thank you Rick for sharing. Gives hope for the future a bit.

  • @totoweissproductions1344
    @totoweissproductions1344 8 днів тому +225

    Esperanza Spaulding has been doing this for years now, only she’s not related to Will and Jada, and she has been labeled Jazz

    • @christophbrylka6256
      @christophbrylka6256 8 днів тому +32

      That was my thought as well. This song could have been written and performed by Esperanza Spalding..

    • @basilandrigsby
      @basilandrigsby 8 днів тому +3

      Good point.

    • @bilbowaggins3036
      @bilbowaggins3036 8 днів тому +37

      Esperanza is one of willow's inspirations. Anyways, for anyone who likes this new album from Willow, I recommend Esperanza's album, Emily's D+ evolution. It's Esperanza's peak of that jazzy, poppy, prog rock type vibe in my opinion

    • @Dooality
      @Dooality 8 днів тому +32

      Eh I know Esperanza’s music well (even went to Berklee with her). I do hear the inspiration but I think it’s different enough that it’s its own thing.

    • @simonhodgetts6530
      @simonhodgetts6530 8 днів тому +19

      I heard Symptom Of Life on the radio a while back - and it’s very good, but does have very strong influence from Esperanza Spalding - but I’m not going to take it away from Willow Smith - she’s very talented, and it’s such a relief to hear someone producing new music that doesn’t sound like all the other robot music out there. There’s some Tori Amos in there too - good though. Like it.

  • @itsphehello
    @itsphehello 7 днів тому

    FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to post about this song

  • @_mrcrypt
    @_mrcrypt 6 днів тому

    Nice! Groove for days and interesting as all heck - THANK YOU for sharing that 🍷

  • @CherryHaze86
    @CherryHaze86 8 днів тому +3

    I'm glad you landed on rhis artist. This album sticks out in the pop scene like a vivid pop of colour

  • @macwrightmusic
    @macwrightmusic 8 днів тому +25

    Feels like that melody was made for those chords in the least obvious way.

    • @anthonyrodriguez7950
      @anthonyrodriguez7950 8 днів тому +1

      Probably vice versa, but great outcome nonetheless.

    • @kayn8703
      @kayn8703 8 днів тому +6

      You’re right! The guy who wrote the piano part said Willow wrote the melody over it.

  • @elir.195
    @elir.195 4 дні тому

    I got just as excited when I heard this and honestly the whole album has some really good ones. Happy to see one of my favorite music UA-camrs break down this awesome song.

  • @chuck-dee
    @chuck-dee 2 дні тому

    She's been developing and working on her sound for a while now- Empathogen is really a great album. And watching that drummer and Mohini Dey groove like that in the back is just magical.