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It makes me so happy to see Tom's transition to full coaster nerd. I was cheering him on from behind my screen for his video where he went on progressively more intense coasters at Alton Towers and finished up with his full euphoric breakthrough of "I am able to enjoy these".
I feel the same. I've loved coasters at such a young age that I have no memories of fearing them, so his video was fascinating to watch and see his perspective and now he's telling people the same coaster nerd facts that I do.
seeing Tom go from losing his cool over the smallest of rollercoasters to now claiming zadra being his no 1 most favorite rollercoaster is so endearing oh my god. "It's like doing aerobatics in a fighter jet" what a perfect way to describe rmc rollercoasters😭😭
Thanks to this video and the UA-camr algorithm I now know that all of the years I could have heard Tom Scott and waited for him to upload just one more video and now I know about this lateral podcast I will start listening to this with the beginning of tomorrow
After Tom talked about the French word for rollercoaster meaning "Russian mountain" I had to look up the translation in other languages. Funnily enough, the Russian word for rollercoaster translates to "American hill." It's funny how different languages associate a particular object with completely different countries.
I love that fact, I learned it from a foreign exchange student. Then I looked it up, and it was because when the modern rollercoaster was introduced to Russians, they saw it as a new thing from America!
Lmfao Zadra is such a bucket list coaster for me. Just got to ride Steel Vengeance for the first time over the past weekend and it was mental. I really wanna ride more RMCs!
My boyfriend is a train nerd and quite active on the LGBT front so I had to pause the podcast and replay that part on speakers just for him to listen, and it actually made him laugh outloud!
@@dgthe3 I think she lost her innocence card after the poem on the babies episode. It was shocking to hear an F-bomb from her, but it perfectly fit with the vibe of the episode.
I love how in the two years since uploading the video on his second channel, Tom Scott went from being terrified of rollercoasters to being so familiar with them that he can have an entire conversation about them as a guest on somebody else's podcast at least twice (this and "Safety Third.")
"i guess the word pleasure had a different set of connotations back then" this is what i think every time i ride The Big One at The Pleasure Beach in blackpool lmao
As a coaster enthusiast it's so funny to me how people can just become enthusiasts out of nowhere, I honestly never would've guessed Tom would start researching coasters like pretty much all enthusiasts do down to the companies that manufacture the rides lol, but I am really happy for him that he can now enjoy rollercoasters without being terrified of them, I know how that feels too, at the end of the day you'll just regret not riding anything
I was terrified of coasters til I was about 17 when I went on my first one with my (at the time 8 year old) brother to convince him to try it, I'm now 32 and I've created a monster in my child, he's 10, and has done all the big coasters at Alton Towers with me, his school do a final year trip to a local theme park, and I'm thoroughly looking forward to him peer pressuring his friends to go on the larger coasters there, while he'll think they're baby coasters 🤣 we're already planning a trip to Thorpe Park to ride Hyperia.
This is exactly what happened to me. I was terrified of roller coasters my whole life and refused to ride any, until in December my friends convinced me to ride Copperhead Strike at Carowinds. I really didn't want to, but a few months later I was riding Intimidator, Fury, and Afterburn. I now have 54 credits, and I'm a thoosie. Also got me a thoosie girlfriend ;) Riding Copperhead Strike was one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.
@@JeremyHale141 Carowinds looks like such a great park, wish I could go someday My story is kinda weird lol, I pretty much got into rollercoasters through train videos on UA-cam I used to watch when I was like 6, and one time UA-cam recommended me whatever rollercoaster, might’ve been a Vekoma mine train or smth, to me, and then it started recommending me more rollercoaster videos until I pretty much became a coaster nerd that was also scared of rollercoasters, lol. Then in 2019 I went to Europa Park and finally got over my fear there
@@GoudLoodje that's an interesting story. And Carowinds is an AWESOME park! Fury has a perfect layout, and Afterburn is a very solid B&M invert. Intimidator (I'm never calling it the new name) is pretty good, especially in the back. Copperhead Strike is really, really good. It has some of the best hangtime on any coaster on 4/5 of its inversions. Then there's Nighthawk, which is criminally underrated. I love Nighthawk, but it gets so much undeserved hate.
Tom is 100% right about "les montagnes russes". Even his pronunciation is good. About the stomach feeling, funny no one mentioned that feeling when a plane suddenly drops tens of feet because the air has a different density. In the 60's, on a DC3 (?) between France and Africa, my brother and I were toddlers, while all other passengers were grabbing their sick bags, one of us was laughing and calling "Again, mum, do it again".
About the airplane turbulences, it's just like rollercoasters: you can't do anything about it, and it's most probably way safer than needed. So just enjoy the ride and any chaos that may arise!
@@sophiamarchildon3998 Something I was thinking, most of theses effects are detected in the internal ear. So the feeling in the stomach may only be something made by the brain. And sea sickness may be among the same effects.
@sophiamarchildon3998 that's what it reminds me of!! The last time I flew there was some pretty consistent, but not horrible turbulence. There was a general sense of unease in the cabin just from people who don't fly often which is understandable. But the whole time I'm sitting there giggling because it reminds me so much of being on a roller coaster. I love it! Now, bad turbulence is an entirely different story
I love this. Tom's coaster about getting over the fear of coasters is, I think, one of the best pieces of youtube content of all time. It's so completely genuine and, as a huge coaster fan myself, absolutely triumphant and emotional. So when he comes on my other favorite youtube channel just to talk about roller coasters, it just fills me with joy
49:18 I think Ceri is onto something here. I've also felt the very guttural stomach drop in situations outside of rollercoasters: finding out about the deaths of friends/family/coworkers, being confronted for something serious, bleeding profusely from the back of my throat, realizing the person I just said something rude to is my boss's boss's boss, having a branch I'm standing on break, remembering that I forgot to set the alarm at work, noticing I left the barbecue on... I think it's the feeling of a strong, unexpected adrenaline dump.
I agree. I've had it at work when I was seeing something incorrectly for a fraction of a second and thought it was going horribly wrong. I've also had it on a mobile drop tower that actually rises a little bit just before it drops, so it doesn't have that fear and surprise factor of other drop towers - it still had the adrenaline, though. And that's even though I usually don't get it on roller coasters.
That's actually really interesting because I feel a pain in my chest in those situations. I like the feeling I get on rollercoasters and it's a really different feeling but in the same area
Love how this stream started with a joke about being on a nuclear submarine, when I just watched a Kyle Hill livestream where his spoiler filled breakdown of Alien Romulus turned into a deep dive on nuclear submarines
There was a hill near my childhood home that people would drive over way too fast. I always got that ball dropping sensation a lot, as a kid. I found it exciting. I hadn't felt it for more than 50 years until Tom described skydiving over an open, moving fan. There is was! Thanks, Tom!
My take, after only haven gotten to thr 10:25 mark, is that what makes a rollercoaster different from a train is that a rollercoaster is both the mode of travel and destination in and of itself, whereas a train takes you to a destination that is not simply the train.
It's definitely physical to an extent. For example, the Vertical Loop on Rougarou at Cedar Point gives you that sensation in your stomach. It's so cool when a coaster makes you experience those forces in unexpected places. Normally you get that sensation on an airtime hill. But feeling it at the peak of a vertical loop is definitely unique
I’d not seen Tangents before now and I was very favorably impressed with the depth of understanding that Ciri brings as a researcher. Most of my PhD students don’t do as well, and they’re always operating within their field!
Honestly anyone wanting to overcome their fear of coasters needs to watch the video he made. It motivated me to overcome mine and now I'm an enthusiast too. I can't imagine that fear making me miss out on something I've come to enjoy so much
Brought a friend who hadn't ridden coaster in decades to Hershey Park. Got him and his wife onto a water ride....that was ok. Did an old school looper, not bad. Then snuck them onto the big bad B&M (actually a really graceful ride, but very tall for a coaster negative person. It was the perfect workup. We were chasing all the rides the rest of the day. Afraid of coasters? Just do it!
Nice! I assume either youre talking about Great Bear or Candymonium? Either way both seem like good in betweener rides so to speak to work your way up to the more intense ones after the smaller family coasters, Comet, and Sooper Dooper Looper.
@@drdewott9154 candymonium. It's like, you can see the ride from the parking lot, but you can't see anything once you get in the queue. We just chatted about stuff for the 45ish minutes in line. Had to tamp down nerves a bit for my friends. But they started yelling at me when we left the station and started climbing the hill. I just laughed my evilest laugh...
Speaking of Tom Scott, the question to start the podcast reminds me of a Citation Needed episode about the first roller coaster, invented in Russia? That was just a cart down hill, one way.
As someone who very frequently has the feeling of "i think theres a citation needed episode about that" its great to see that even the creators of the show have that same experience
20:26: "What I want from a roller coaster is not to get terrified / crushed in my seat. I want to feel like I'm flying. I want to feel like I'm doing aerobatics in a plane." Thank you Tom! That's exactly what I am telling all the time. Let go of all the records. I don't need fast, or high, or any record numbers on a paper. That's why I loved DC Rivals in Australia. It feels like I'm an athlete doing figures in the sky and flying past the ground in impossible angles, like I can genuinely fly. That's what I want from rollercoasters. The laterals, the feeling of freedom, I want comfortable lap bars only and forget the seat that I'm on, just feel like an athlete in the sky. And that comes from creative layouts. I will gladly leave the crushing coasters and record numbers to others, if I can just find a very fun layout that gives me the feeling of pure freedom. That's what I am seeking.
Honestly anyone wanting to conquer their fear of rollercoasters needs to watch his video. It was the extra push I needed to conquer mine and I don't think I would have become an enthusiast otherwise. It's so common to see people reinforcing that fear; seeing someone willingly overcome it was a great confidence booster.
When I found out I was autistic, I said to my husband "but I'm not obsessed with trains" he laughed & replied, "ya do realize rollercoasters are trains, right?". 😮 Literally spent 5 hrs yesterday riding coasters at Cedar Point. I'm obsessed...just with a specific kind of train.
We joined ACE (American Coaster Enthusiasts) which is awesome cuz we do events where we get exclusive ride time & backstage tours. My fav so far was the backstage tour & ERT of The Beast.
@@IceMetalPunk no, but I do come by it honestly, as my mother had an odd penchant for memorizing limericks, and she passed it along to me. In my 20s and 30s it turned out to be a very popular party trick!
38:59 “oh btw this wasn’t actually anyone sentient, this is a LOT less upsetting than I spent my ENTIRE TIME rolling out this fact to be” THANKS TOM SCOTT IM TRAUMATIZED FOR NOTHING
This absolutely does not matter, but Formula Rossa is in Abu Dhabi, not Dubai. I only know this cause I was staying down the road from Ferrari World last week on a work trip. We drove past the coaster track most days, and I always wondered why I never saw a train car going. Thanks to Tangents I know now!
I use to listen to every single episode of tangents. But is has been a few years since I last listened to an episode (I think 2020😱). But for some reason yt thought I might like this episode. and I must say it brought back memories. I am impressed that you have kept going for this long.
Tom nailed it on the head when he said "that feeling is fear". The more rollercoasters I ride (I'm a coaster enthusiasts) the less and less I get that "falling out" feeling. It is very much of a mental trick to the human body. It's just like practicing a sport, the first time a person ever shoots a basketball, or hits a baseball, it's going to be sloppy, there's going to be a failing there. However, the more you practice the sport, the better the person gets, and therefore that "failing" feeling goes away.
@@coasterbot never in a million years did i expect you to reply to this. I really like your video's though. and I myself use captain coaster myself to count my creds. so i'm fairly familiar with the tags
Tim! You need to hit up Cedar Point. It's the Disneyland of Rollercoaster thoosies! Especially if you enjoy RMC's work, you need to experience Steel Vengeance.
I was stood in the queue for Zadra just days ago, and we spoke about Tom's video and it brings a tear to my eye to hear he's a bit of a thoosie now. People miss out on some really amazing experience through fear, and this is the evidence!
Brilliant show, folks! I do think the audience for this is probably comfortable with terms like “positive” “negative” and “lateral” g forces. It would be a lot easier than “pressed down in your seat” or “floaty.”
As soon as she started talking about Russian Mountains, I started thinking about how Tom Scott must already know about these because of the Citation Needed episode about it!
yeah I definitely struggle with the feeling of the stomach drop thing in rollercoasters and screaming my head off helps tremendously. I'm hoarse by the time de day is done though.
The story at 53:23 about screaming into the drops with the joyous abandon of "come on let's have it!" fills me with glee. I want to get a beer with Tom too, haha
It's great that there is software out there for any one to build and ride rollercoasters to such great detail. You can learn so much just trying to build your own.
I totally get @lateralcast roller coaster experience. I was terrified of coasters, but when my son was born I figured eventually he would want to ride coasters and I would need to ride with him. So, suddenly, in my 30's, I stepped up and began to ride. Now I ride them all the time and love 'em -- and my son? He has never expressed interest in coasters.
Love seeing Tom clock all the trivia ahead of time lol. My favorite factoid on different words for "roller coaster" is that in Japanese they're called ジェットコースター or literally "jet coaster", which as far as I can tell was just the name of one of the first (but not *the* first) roller coaster attractions in Japan. The original Jet Coaster opened in 1955 at Korakuen Amusement Park (now Tokyo Dome City) and despite only lasting for 12 years, it apparently just dominated the cultural perception of roller coasters to the point of becoming a metonym. It'd be the equivalent of Americans calling all modern steel coasters Matterhorns.
This is my topic!! I’m one of those enthusiasts Tom mentioned. I like to compare to Car People/ Rev Heads. We are very passionate about anything rollercoaster, even worked at a Park. I always pick the back!! Back row rider!!
for that last question, I do definitely have a feeling that I get when doing something like going over a hill in a car, but that might just be the weightlessness. It's actually a feeling I really enjoy even though I don't like full rollercoasters
I think the best definition of what a Roller Coaster is would be "A tracked vehicle that is intended to run at frequently changing velocities, for the purpose of fun". This definition allows the inclusion of rides that coast and are powered, but discounts tracked water rides as they don't frequently change velocity, only on drops.
As an enthusiast, I love seeing science people talk about roller coasters. Tom's right that you can get over a fear of them by riding a bunch of them until you don't feel the fear anymore. Lots of hard-core enthusiasts spend time finding a novel coaster with new sensations so they can actually feel the fear again. Thing is, there's no reason to conquer your fear unless you're specifically trying to get to that "aerobatics" stage. Strapping yourself to a hunk of steel on wheels with no brakes has no greater purpose except for "fun." And if it's not fun, don't do it! I don't think anybody should feel bad about not liking coasters, I don't think anyone should ever feel pressured to ride, and I don't feel brave because I like to ride. It's just a hobby.
I would say a roller coaster is a short one way tracked ride with a single stop where you both board and disembark (with few exceptions) and has significant, rapid elevation changes over short sections. Train would have multiple stops, and be longer tracks with much gentler grades
As for the rollercoaster asthma study; an NRC article from 2010 states that the study took place in a rollercoaster at an Amsterdam fun fair, on the Dam. It was not named, but it likely was one of the (probably Reverchon) spinning rollercoasters, since that's just about the only type of travelling rollercoaster you will find in the Netherlands.
Thanks for having me on the show, folks! This was an absolute joy to be part of. (And next time, I'll make sure not to set my camera to log colour.)
Not even using your main account?
I suppose after retiring from making weekly videos, this IS his main account lol
Great to see you again! I hope you keep getting the rest you need and deserve and STILL make the nice little cameo
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It makes me so happy to see Tom's transition to full coaster nerd. I was cheering him on from behind my screen for his video where he went on progressively more intense coasters at Alton Towers and finished up with his full euphoric breakthrough of "I am able to enjoy these".
🏳⚧🎢
We saw the look on his face at the end of nemesis...he may have not been a full enthusiast, but he was hooked
I feel the same. I've loved coasters at such a young age that I have no memories of fearing them, so his video was fascinating to watch and see his perspective and now he's telling people the same coaster nerd facts that I do.
It is probably my most watched video on whole UA-cam not including shorts
@@DoomPlagueit is the same for me I know way more (then any average age group you throw at me )about rollercoasters 🎢
seeing Tom go from losing his cool over the smallest of rollercoasters to now claiming zadra being his no 1 most favorite rollercoaster is so endearing oh my god.
"It's like doing aerobatics in a fighter jet" what a perfect way to describe rmc rollercoasters😭😭
And he knows firsthand how it feels to do aerobatics in a fighter jet!
The fact that Zadra is his #1 is even more proof that he has good taste
I love RMC so much
True. He went up in a fighter jet before he went on a roller coaster.
I was just thinking about how much I missed seeing Tom Scott and just how much positive impact he has. Really great to see him doing well.
you 100% should start listening to Lateral! Its so lovely
@@maxaslagolis And if you struggle with audio, they post video clips on UA-cam.
Lateral is a Joy!! Try starting with the recent Hank and Ceri episode for a familiar cast
@@itskdogI only discovered it a few months ago. I finished every video within a few weeks.
Thanks to this video and the UA-camr algorithm I now know that all of the years I could have heard Tom Scott and waited for him to upload just one more video and now I know about this lateral podcast I will start listening to this with the beginning of tomorrow
After Tom talked about the French word for rollercoaster meaning "Russian mountain" I had to look up the translation in other languages. Funnily enough, the Russian word for rollercoaster translates to "American hill." It's funny how different languages associate a particular object with completely different countries.
Oh, wait until you look up the translations for STDs…
@@SamAronow it's decidedly less wholesome with diseases.
I love that fact, I learned it from a foreign exchange student.
Then I looked it up, and it was because when the modern rollercoaster was introduced to Russians, they saw it as a new thing from America!
Dutch pillows anyone?
In Finnish it's called a mountain range track.
As a Tom Scott and Rollercoaster enthusiast I am so stoked to welcome you to the community
In this episode, Tom Scott speaks with three of his friends about the history of roller coasters [citation needed].
I think you are looking for more information on the Flip Flap Railroad, perhaps? 😂
It made me so happy when he brought it up
It's four of his friends. There's actually a donkey in the background, you know?
from terrified of Coasters to "My favourite coater is Zadra" is quite the journey!
It makes me want to go face my big but irrational fears and find a new obsession too! 😁
Lmfao Zadra is such a bucket list coaster for me. Just got to ride Steel Vengeance for the first time over the past weekend and it was mental. I really wanna ride more RMCs!
Sure is. Tom's video did the same for me. I went from irrationally scared of roller coasters to Iron Gwazi being my favorite in a year and half!
It's literally how it went for me. Terrified for decades & somehow my husband convinced me to go on Millennium Force. I'm now totally obsessed.
@@squillz8310SteVe is a great ride. Back row at night is absolutely bonkers.
I did not have "Who bottoms on the train" on my bingo sheet for today
They switch, they can go both ways! 😂Happy Bi Visibility Month!!
My boyfriend is a train nerd and quite active on the LGBT front so I had to pause the podcast and replay that part on speakers just for him to listen, and it actually made him laugh outloud!
Ceri feels too innocent to be making such jokes.
@@dgthe3 I think she lost her innocence card after the poem on the babies episode. It was shocking to hear an F-bomb from her, but it perfectly fit with the vibe of the episode.
I keep coming back again and again to Tom's roller coaster video. It is one of the most cathartic things on UA-cam.
Me too I too get back to that video if I am sad and need to be cheered up / cheered myself up that is my video to watch
I do the same, watching Tom just push through his very real fear of them is amazing
Agree! Always watch when i need "I can do this" vibes
I believe in father Christmas
I love how in the two years since uploading the video on his second channel, Tom Scott went from being terrified of rollercoasters to being so familiar with them that he can have an entire conversation about them as a guest on somebody else's podcast at least twice (this and "Safety Third.")
I'm glad Tom acknowledged that one citation needed episode, I was going crazy.
That “TELL PEOPLE ABOUT US!” was incredibly smooth. Smoothest it’s ever been I think
Wouldn't say smoothest ever, but for sure the smoothest since they stopped doing the podcast in the same room :D
"i guess the word pleasure had a different set of connotations back then" this is what i think every time i ride The Big One at The Pleasure Beach in blackpool lmao
As a coaster enthusiast it's so funny to me how people can just become enthusiasts out of nowhere, I honestly never would've guessed Tom would start researching coasters like pretty much all enthusiasts do down to the companies that manufacture the rides lol, but I am really happy for him that he can now enjoy rollercoasters without being terrified of them, I know how that feels too, at the end of the day you'll just regret not riding anything
I was terrified of coasters til I was about 17 when I went on my first one with my (at the time 8 year old) brother to convince him to try it, I'm now 32 and I've created a monster in my child, he's 10, and has done all the big coasters at Alton Towers with me, his school do a final year trip to a local theme park, and I'm thoroughly looking forward to him peer pressuring his friends to go on the larger coasters there, while he'll think they're baby coasters 🤣 we're already planning a trip to Thorpe Park to ride Hyperia.
If anything is gonna grab your attention as being uniquely awesome as an experience it's RMC tho
This is exactly what happened to me. I was terrified of roller coasters my whole life and refused to ride any, until in December my friends convinced me to ride Copperhead Strike at Carowinds. I really didn't want to, but a few months later I was riding Intimidator, Fury, and Afterburn. I now have 54 credits, and I'm a thoosie. Also got me a thoosie girlfriend ;) Riding Copperhead Strike was one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.
@@JeremyHale141 Carowinds looks like such a great park, wish I could go someday
My story is kinda weird lol, I pretty much got into rollercoasters through train videos on UA-cam I used to watch when I was like 6, and one time UA-cam recommended me whatever rollercoaster, might’ve been a Vekoma mine train or smth, to me, and then it started recommending me more rollercoaster videos until I pretty much became a coaster nerd that was also scared of rollercoasters, lol. Then in 2019 I went to Europa Park and finally got over my fear there
@@GoudLoodje that's an interesting story. And Carowinds is an AWESOME park! Fury has a perfect layout, and Afterburn is a very solid B&M invert. Intimidator (I'm never calling it the new name) is pretty good, especially in the back. Copperhead Strike is really, really good. It has some of the best hangtime on any coaster on 4/5 of its inversions. Then there's Nighthawk, which is criminally underrated. I love Nighthawk, but it gets so much undeserved hate.
Tom is 100% right about "les montagnes russes". Even his pronunciation is good.
About the stomach feeling, funny no one mentioned that feeling when a plane suddenly drops tens of feet because the air has a different density. In the 60's, on a DC3 (?) between France and Africa, my brother and I were toddlers, while all other passengers were grabbing their sick bags, one of us was laughing and calling "Again, mum, do it again".
first time he's pronounced something in french right!
About the airplane turbulences, it's just like rollercoasters: you can't do anything about it, and it's most probably way safer than needed. So just enjoy the ride and any chaos that may arise!
@@sophiamarchildon3998 Something I was thinking, most of theses effects are detected in the internal ear. So the feeling in the stomach may only be something made by the brain. And sea sickness may be among the same effects.
@sophiamarchildon3998 that's what it reminds me of!! The last time I flew there was some pretty consistent, but not horrible turbulence. There was a general sense of unease in the cabin just from people who don't fly often which is understandable. But the whole time I'm sitting there giggling because it reminds me so much of being on a roller coaster. I love it!
Now, bad turbulence is an entirely different story
I love this. Tom's coaster about getting over the fear of coasters is, I think, one of the best pieces of youtube content of all time. It's so completely genuine and, as a huge coaster fan myself, absolutely triumphant and emotional. So when he comes on my other favorite youtube channel just to talk about roller coasters, it just fills me with joy
I just finished a watch through of Citation Needed, and I definitely spent the first half of the "history of..." all like 😃
Yay, zadra mention! I've been on that one. The structure is pretty much all wood and it creaks menacingly which makes for, let's say, an extra thrill
49:18 I think Ceri is onto something here. I've also felt the very guttural stomach drop in situations outside of rollercoasters: finding out about the deaths of friends/family/coworkers, being confronted for something serious, bleeding profusely from the back of my throat, realizing the person I just said something rude to is my boss's boss's boss, having a branch I'm standing on break, remembering that I forgot to set the alarm at work, noticing I left the barbecue on... I think it's the feeling of a strong, unexpected adrenaline dump.
I agree. I've had it at work when I was seeing something incorrectly for a fraction of a second and thought it was going horribly wrong.
I've also had it on a mobile drop tower that actually rises a little bit just before it drops, so it doesn't have that fear and surprise factor of other drop towers - it still had the adrenaline, though. And that's even though I usually don't get it on roller coasters.
Also, how else would you feel a drop when you're dreaming
That's actually really interesting because I feel a pain in my chest in those situations. I like the feeling I get on rollercoasters and it's a really different feeling but in the same area
Yay! I've missed seeing his videos every week.
Lateral still comes out every week, as does the newsletter (with a new series from TechDif on the way soon)
@@itskdog There's a new TechDif series on the way soon?! YES, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS AND NOW I'M SO EXCITED! 💗
@@IceMetalPunk It's been announced in the newsletter and the community tab on the TechDif channel.
I miss them too and now I know about this lateral
Love how this stream started with a joke about being on a nuclear submarine, when I just watched a Kyle Hill livestream where his spoiler filled breakdown of Alien Romulus turned into a deep dive on nuclear submarines
There was a hill near my childhood home that people would drive over way too fast. I always got that ball dropping sensation a lot, as a kid. I found it exciting. I hadn't felt it for more than 50 years until Tom described skydiving over an open, moving fan. There is was! Thanks, Tom!
My take, after only haven gotten to thr 10:25 mark, is that what makes a rollercoaster different from a train is that a rollercoaster is both the mode of travel and destination in and of itself, whereas a train takes you to a destination that is not simply the train.
Being a coaster enthusiast, and a Tom Scott fan, I never thought I'd see the day in which Tom Scott became a coaster enthusiast.
20:05 HE'S RIDDEN ZADRA?! he's a full coaster enthusiast now!
The feeling of the gut drop is definitely mental, not physical. You can get it by dropping in VR. Thank you Borderlands 2 VR. 😅
Actually it is physical to an extent, in zero-g your gut starts floating and you do have the ability to feel that.
I've gotten it from jumping in video games.
It's definitely physical to an extent. For example, the Vertical Loop on Rougarou at Cedar Point gives you that sensation in your stomach. It's so cool when a coaster makes you experience those forces in unexpected places. Normally you get that sensation on an airtime hill. But feeling it at the peak of a vertical loop is definitely unique
I’ve gotten it in borderlands 2 as well, but in non-vr form sitting at my desk.
I’d not seen Tangents before now and I was very favorably impressed with the depth of understanding that Ciri brings as a researcher. Most of my PhD students don’t do as well, and they’re always operating within their field!
As an enthusiast, I’m so happy to see Tom become one of us!
Honestly anyone wanting to overcome their fear of coasters needs to watch the video he made. It motivated me to overcome mine and now I'm an enthusiast too. I can't imagine that fear making me miss out on something I've come to enjoy so much
Funny thing about that lateral question at the beginning, is that I learnt that from Citation Needed. Shame Tom didn't remember that one.
I love how it's just all your organs going AAAAAHHHHH
Brought a friend who hadn't ridden coaster in decades to Hershey Park. Got him and his wife onto a water ride....that was ok. Did an old school looper, not bad. Then snuck them onto the big bad B&M (actually a really graceful ride, but very tall for a coaster negative person. It was the perfect workup. We were chasing all the rides the rest of the day. Afraid of coasters? Just do it!
Nice! I assume either youre talking about Great Bear or Candymonium? Either way both seem like good in betweener rides so to speak to work your way up to the more intense ones after the smaller family coasters, Comet, and Sooper Dooper Looper.
@@drdewott9154 candymonium. It's like, you can see the ride from the parking lot, but you can't see anything once you get in the queue. We just chatted about stuff for the 45ish minutes in line. Had to tamp down nerves a bit for my friends. But they started yelling at me when we left the station and started climbing the hill. I just laughed my evilest laugh...
Speaking of Tom Scott, the question to start the podcast reminds me of a Citation Needed episode about the first roller coaster, invented in Russia? That was just a cart down hill, one way.
11:24 Tom is smiling because he remembered the donkey.
As someone who very frequently has the feeling of "i think theres a citation needed episode about that" its great to see that even the creators of the show have that same experience
I love Tom! This will be a great show!
Tom Scott! Awesome guest you guys. Yet another reason to continue to love this show.
Aww yea love rollercoasters, tangents and tom scott so this will be great!
"Come on let's have it" was the most aggresively British thing I've ever heard
I love Tom Scott. I learn so much every time he speaks. 😀
My top podcasts are tangents and lateral, so this is probably the most perfect episode for me!
20:26: "What I want from a roller coaster is not to get terrified / crushed in my seat. I want to feel like I'm flying. I want to feel like I'm doing aerobatics in a plane."
Thank you Tom! That's exactly what I am telling all the time. Let go of all the records. I don't need fast, or high, or any record numbers on a paper.
That's why I loved DC Rivals in Australia. It feels like I'm an athlete doing figures in the sky and flying past the ground in impossible angles, like I can genuinely fly. That's what I want from rollercoasters. The laterals, the feeling of freedom, I want comfortable lap bars only and forget the seat that I'm on, just feel like an athlete in the sky.
And that comes from creative layouts. I will gladly leave the crushing coasters and record numbers to others, if I can just find a very fun layout that gives me the feeling of pure freedom. That's what I am seeking.
Beautiful! I'm sharing this with everyone I know who is either a train nerd (since they're rollercoaster-adjacent) and anyone who is a Tom Scott fan.
I get "that feeling" when I'm up on a ladder where the foot slips or in a man lift with a little too much wiggle.
In Spanish it is also called " montaña rusa" (Russian mountain), like in French.
And montanha russa in Portuguese
This is so wholesome to watch as a coaster enthusiast.
So glad to see tom's become one of us coaster nerds
Honestly anyone wanting to conquer their fear of rollercoasters needs to watch his video. It was the extra push I needed to conquer mine and I don't think I would have become an enthusiast otherwise. It's so common to see people reinforcing that fear; seeing someone willingly overcome it was a great confidence booster.
When I found out I was autistic, I said to my husband "but I'm not obsessed with trains" he laughed & replied, "ya do realize rollercoasters are trains, right?". 😮
Literally spent 5 hrs yesterday riding coasters at Cedar Point. I'm obsessed...just with a specific kind of train.
We joined ACE (American Coaster Enthusiasts) which is awesome cuz we do events where we get exclusive ride time & backstage tours. My fav so far was the backstage tour & ERT of The Beast.
That roller coaster 'fall' feeling definitely is fear. I get it when driving due to my PTSD
I too find that my cultural heritage is best expressed in limerick form. Thank you Tom!
Are you, perchance, from Nantucket? 😁
@@IceMetalPunk no, but I do come by it honestly, as my mother had an odd penchant for memorizing limericks, and she passed it along to me. In my 20s and 30s it turned out to be a very popular party trick!
38:59 “oh btw this wasn’t actually anyone sentient, this is a LOT less upsetting than I spent my ENTIRE TIME rolling out this fact to be”
THANKS TOM SCOTT IM TRAUMATIZED FOR NOTHING
19:09 Tom looking right down the barrel of the camera making it seem like he's looking at ME specifically, lol
This absolutely does not matter, but Formula Rossa is in Abu Dhabi, not Dubai. I only know this cause I was staying down the road from Ferrari World last week on a work trip. We drove past the coaster track most days, and I always wondered why I never saw a train car going. Thanks to Tangents I know now!
Tom Scott officially being one of us enthusiasts just makes my day!
Thank You for recommending Lateral, the highlights playlist has made my work day go SO much faster. Cheers~
CROSSOVER? LETS GOOOOOOOO
I use to listen to every single episode of tangents. But is has been a few years since I last listened to an episode (I think 2020😱).
But for some reason yt thought I might like this episode.
and I must say it brought back memories. I am impressed that you have kept going for this long.
Great to see Tom!
11:30 I have a feeling Tom Scott here is thinking, "They’d be going down and their [donkeys'] little ears'd be flapping in the wind, all like that…"
Tom nailed it on the head when he said "that feeling is fear". The more rollercoasters I ride (I'm a coaster enthusiasts) the less and less I get that "falling out" feeling. It is very much of a mental trick to the human body. It's just like practicing a sport, the first time a person ever shoots a basketball, or hits a baseball, it's going to be sloppy, there's going to be a failing there. However, the more you practice the sport, the better the person gets, and therefore that "failing" feeling goes away.
Petition to have each of the Technical Difficulties cast on episodes, either individually.
Tom's transformation is awesome. Great to see!
So proud of coaster enthusiast Tom!!!
I love Tom's obsession of Rollercoaster. It was amazing seeing his second channel video of getting over that fear
I say this with all sincerity when I say I hope to see Tom ride Steel Vengeance one day.
19:32 Tom Scott using captain coaster lol
Instantly what I thought too ha ha
@@coasterbot never in a million years did i expect you to reply to this. I really like your video's though. and I myself use captain coaster myself to count my creds. so i'm fairly familiar with the tags
Awesome show, and it was surprisingly ... comforting to hear Tom again (:
Tim! You need to hit up Cedar Point. It's the Disneyland of Rollercoaster thoosies! Especially if you enjoy RMC's work, you need to experience Steel Vengeance.
As an IT architect I love how defining a thing gets more and more complicated real quick!
I usually 'like' the video at the end, but then Tom Scott.
I was stood in the queue for Zadra just days ago, and we spoke about Tom's video and it brings a tear to my eye to hear he's a bit of a thoosie now. People miss out on some really amazing experience through fear, and this is the evidence!
Brilliant show, folks! I do think the audience for this is probably comfortable with terms like “positive” “negative” and “lateral” g forces. It would be a lot easier than “pressed down in your seat” or “floaty.”
As soon as she started talking about Russian Mountains, I started thinking about how Tom Scott must already know about these because of the Citation Needed episode about it!
This was a great episode
As a big coaster enthusiast, this is great!
This is so cool to see. His video was the motivation I needed to overcome my fear of rollercoasters and I'm an enthusiast now too
yeah I definitely struggle with the feeling of the stomach drop thing in rollercoasters and screaming my head off helps tremendously. I'm hoarse by the time de day is done though.
The story at 53:23 about screaming into the drops with the joyous abandon of "come on let's have it!" fills me with glee. I want to get a beer with Tom too, haha
TOM SCOTT!!!! YEAH!!!
First time on a coaster I laughed all the way through.
It's great that there is software out there for any one to build and ride rollercoasters to such great detail. You can learn so much just trying to build your own.
I totally get @lateralcast roller coaster experience. I was terrified of coasters, but when my son was born I figured eventually he would want to ride coasters and I would need to ride with him. So, suddenly, in my 30's, I stepped up and began to ride. Now I ride them all the time and love 'em -- and my son? He has never expressed interest in coasters.
Lol the mini-lateral. Well done. :)
Love seeing Tom clock all the trivia ahead of time lol. My favorite factoid on different words for "roller coaster" is that in Japanese they're called ジェットコースター or literally "jet coaster", which as far as I can tell was just the name of one of the first (but not *the* first) roller coaster attractions in Japan. The original Jet Coaster opened in 1955 at Korakuen Amusement Park (now Tokyo Dome City) and despite only lasting for 12 years, it apparently just dominated the cultural perception of roller coasters to the point of becoming a metonym.
It'd be the equivalent of Americans calling all modern steel coasters Matterhorns.
FYI a factoid is a incorrect fact.
@@marcojackson8326Merriam Webster gives that definition but also 'a briefly stated and usually trivial fact'
Fun fact roller coaster in Hebrew is 'mountains train'
I'm terrified of rollercoasters, but you're making me wanna try them!
nice! tom scott guest!
This is my topic!! I’m one of those enthusiasts Tom mentioned. I like to compare to Car People/ Rev Heads. We are very passionate about anything rollercoaster, even worked at a Park. I always pick the back!! Back row rider!!
for that last question, I do definitely have a feeling that I get when doing something like going over a hill in a car, but that might just be the weightlessness. It's actually a feeling I really enjoy even though I don't like full rollercoasters
I think the best definition of what a Roller Coaster is would be "A tracked vehicle that is intended to run at frequently changing velocities, for the purpose of fun". This definition allows the inclusion of rides that coast and are powered, but discounts tracked water rides as they don't frequently change velocity, only on drops.
Finally a new video with tomscott yeeeeaaaaah🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 finally I want more and I am only a few seconds in 🎉🎉🎉 1:23
Tom scott is turning into chris sawyer, smart guy who koves roller coaster, we just need him to go on a big roller coaster trip arround europe
As an enthusiast, I love seeing science people talk about roller coasters. Tom's right that you can get over a fear of them by riding a bunch of them until you don't feel the fear anymore. Lots of hard-core enthusiasts spend time finding a novel coaster with new sensations so they can actually feel the fear again. Thing is, there's no reason to conquer your fear unless you're specifically trying to get to that "aerobatics" stage. Strapping yourself to a hunk of steel on wheels with no brakes has no greater purpose except for "fun." And if it's not fun, don't do it! I don't think anybody should feel bad about not liking coasters, I don't think anyone should ever feel pressured to ride, and I don't feel brave because I like to ride. It's just a hobby.
Alright now have Tom do bananas and answer in progress do all the roller coasters that come out in the next 2-5 yrs lol
"I've been ..." always sounds funny to me because it implies you stop being that person once the camera turns off.
Thank you so much for allowing me to hear Tom Scott say "You feel it in ya balls".
I really missed Tom Scott! And I only just realized :D
I would say a roller coaster is a short one way tracked ride with a single stop where you both board and disembark (with few exceptions) and has significant, rapid elevation changes over short sections.
Train would have multiple stops, and be longer tracks with much gentler grades
As for the rollercoaster asthma study; an NRC article from 2010 states that the study took place in a rollercoaster at an Amsterdam fun fair, on the Dam. It was not named, but it likely was one of the (probably Reverchon) spinning rollercoasters, since that's just about the only type of travelling rollercoaster you will find in the Netherlands.
Tom, "I'm going to get a plug in here..." while holding a Lateral mug in shot.