As an Australian, this song has been respected in our culture for decades. It is as powerful now as it was back in it's day. Thankyou for a very meaningful and honest and difficult review. We need to know and understand the trauma our soldiers go through. I know it's an American thing to say but I have always liked it's sentiment and a thing I think all servicemen need to hear - Thankyou for your service.
@TormentedVet_Reactions Watch "Battle Of Long Tan" Documentary on UA-cam, It has actual Australian Soldiers who served in Vietnam and what happened to those bad asses, They are small forces but are no joke, were fearless and held there own...
@@TormentedVet_Reactions bless you good sir for your service, I never served but I can see from your eyes you've seen some things. I'm sorry you have to carry that burden. I only wish I could shoulder that pain for you, even if only momentarily, as way of repaying you and your brothers and sisters in arms for your selflessness and bravery.
@@TormentedVet_Reactions This song was written after a long talk with a Viet vet. It is pretty well a sacred song in Oz. The other sacred song of Oz, in regard to war service, is: And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda, about a badly wounded Oz WW1 man who came back. If you listen to it, PLEASE listen to the original, not a cover. Sung by a Scots man, called Eric Bogle, who moved to Australia, and wrote the song, and recorded it, in the late 60s or early 70s. Both make most decent people weep. The line about, he was coming back in June, is pragmatically, a rhyme needed. The timeline doesn't work, but we forgive that, because the song is so moving to us all, to the men who served, to wives, to children, who lived with the damage done. It may well be hard to listen to, precisely because you identify so much with the song. It is good to give it to people who don't get what you are going through.
Mate, as an Aussie chick, let me ask you to be kind to yourself. I wouldn't have blamed you for walking away halfway through this song. I could see the upset in your eyes. Big hugs to you. Take care.
@@popcornshiner3937 mum said dads last few days with cancer he was obsessed with looking for the orange thing that’s what he would say he tore the house apart night after night looking for the orange think yes he was very sick yes medicated it was only as mum and I spoke after he had passed coukd the orange thing been the ancient orange glow 🤷♀️
As an Australian, I'm so sorry that this song and it's music video triggered your PTSD. I can see your pain and I sympathize. But truly that is the point of the song, the Vietnam veterans were trreated like shit when they returned to Australia from the war and this song MADE Australians aware of the reality of what occured in Vietnam and the reality of PTSD and shell shock. Thank you for an honest and emotional understanding of one of Australia's most powerful anthems.
Australia got into Vietnam as a direct result of its "special relationship" with USA. We were pressured to join. Our participation in this war caused a division within our society and our veterans were treated appallingly on their return. This song is culturally significant as it was part of a movement to recognise and validate our Vietnam Vets. It also serves as a love song from a (finally) grateful country to all our PTSD suffering veterans, from Vietnam and more recent conflicts. My extended family has a tradition of military service - my Dad was in Vietnam - and we hold all veterans within our hearts. So bless all vets, wherever they may be. Know that your service and sacrifice will never be forgotten
you will find behind the scenes Australia pushed the USA to go to war in Vietnam due to the perceived communist threat being to close and the threat of invading Australia
For some of us it goes way back before Vietnam. My father lied about his age and signed up for WWII in Australia at age 14 .. he died at age 53 from alcohol abuse. Our childhood, our mother’s marriage, everything was pure hell as a result of his PTSD, which 50+yrs ago wasn’t even a thing. We couldn’t possibly understand then what was going on in his head but we know better now. He would stay up all night drinking and watching war movies … lying on the living room floor pretending to be shooting the Japanese in the movies. He would drink and smoke till he passed out on the sofa, only to repeat when he woke day in, day out till it killed him. So, thank you sir for this respectful and personal reaction, for your service, for your sacrifice. This song talks to every vet who ever saw active service, and as someone said earlier, it is an anthem in our country.
The fact remains that if 300 million Indos decide to march south one day, the ADF would be lucky to last a week. We've needed the Americans ever since Churchill gave us up.
@@mareenorth8790 Our fathers fought , so that we did not have to , dad was a Rat of Tobruk , an ambulance driver . No PTSD , but in his final hours , under the morphine , we got a small idea of what it was like . He never spoke about the war . Both gone and missed , God bless you for your story , it cant have been easy .
As written on the Australian War Memorial website... I was only 19 was released in March 1983 when discussion of the Vietnam War, which had so fiercely divided public opinion a decade earlier, was generally avoided in polite conversation. A generation of veterans had been left feeling isolated and with a belief they had been forgotten by their country. I was only 19 provided a fresh perspective, presenting a compelling sympathetic account of an Australian soldier’s experience of the war and its aftermath. Concentrating on the toll paid by those who took part rather than debating the merits of the war itself, it became the quintessential song of the Australian Vietnam War veteran. John Schumann - who was the lead singer of Redgum at the time the song was written - based the lyrics on the experiences of his brother-in-law Mick Storen, who served with 3 Platoon, A Company, 6 Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (6RAR) in Vietnam in 1969. The song’s alternative title, A walk in the light green, refers to patrolling in a patch of jungle known by troops as “the light green”, due to its colour on topographical maps, indicating lightly wooded areas presenting little cover and a high likelihood of land mines. The song refers to events that occurred during Operation Mundingburra, a search and destroy operation conducted between 14 July and 18 August 1969, during which Mick Storen’s platoon patrolled in the light green to the east of the Long Hai hills.
I'll just add that I believe OP's reaction is exactly the same as most people who hears this song. Much like Eric Bogle's "and the Band sang Waltzing Matilda" ua-cam.com/video/WG48Ftsr3OI/v-deo.html
Australia was in Vietnam in 1962 and stayed until 1972. President Johnson became the first sitting U.S. President to visit here in 66 to get the cooperation of Australian troops via our Prime Minister Harold Holt. We have fought alongside the U.S in every war since the start of the 20th century. Approximately 60,000 Australians served in the war: 521 were killed and more than 3,000 were wounded.
@@greypossum1 I think you will find, when you travel around the country roads and you notice the soldiers graves from Vietnam ( and they are in pride of place in small towns near the cenotaph) you will just about count 500 on one Sunday drive.
@@christineyates2618your idea of small towns is different to mine. If more than 250ppl, it's not small, I live in a place in tassie of around 45 full-time residents. Next town over with 300 ppl has an RSL but no self respecting soldier after 1999 will step foot on the grounds.
@@terencemcgeown2358 No loss to the RSL if they're going to be like that. Wagga boys died in Vietnam and their names are listed on the local Honour Roll. One of our lads, John Edmonson, was awarded a VC in WWII. We at least are proud of our fighting men.
@@greypossum1 it’s amazing to me how many Americans don’t know this. I dated a US Marine for 3 years and he and the rest of the Marines and Navy guys didn’t even know Australia has always been here.
My beautiful nephew did 2 tours of Afghanistan with the ADF and came home so broken. My sister drove to get him and he was in the foetal position in the back of her car. The ADF did nothing to help, he joined the Victoria Police and they are the ones who took care of him. He has lost several brothers, who have taken their own lives and we were terrified as a family, that we would lose him. He just got married in Greece yesterday to the most beautiful girl who knows how to help him and they have a one yr old daughter. He can still have a bad day but his life has changed dramatically and we are so thrilled for him. I’ve just been looking at the wedding videos from my sister who is there. He looks so happy ❤️
@@karenglenn6707 as an Australian I sincerely appreciate his service. So disappointing to hear that the ADF weren’t there to support his recovery or adjustments after leaving. That is a national shame. I’m so pleased to hear that he has found love, happiness and family 💕I sincerely wish him all the best for his future.
@@dellishart9535 thank you so much for your kind comment. So many others are suffering, and as I mentioned, he has lost army brothers to PTSD. He felt helpless and hopeless, and while joining the Police (we are a police family) may not have been the perfect choice (he would have still been facing trauma with domestics etc) they did a wonderful job in looking after him. My heart nearly burst seeing he and his beautiful new wife do their wedding dance. What a difference she and the baby have made to his life. She is just perfect for him ♥️
Now all they need is a very sweet, gentle rescue dog from one of the rescues in Greece, and he will have a wonderful family, full of care and support for each other. Parents, baby, dog... Full house. Lol.
This song is so important in Australia and was so pivotal to changing the way Vietnam vets were seen in this country that lyrics from it are on the national war memorial in Canberra.
@@guyhouse3219 the war memorial in Canberra should be a mandatory school excursion nationwide. The emotions I felt visiting there were overwhelming. I can’t imagine how a war vet survives past being in the thick of it & the losses they experienced. 😔
@@debbarber8765 Maybe not the one in Canberra, unless the gov is footing the bill for large amounts of kids to come from all over Australia and their stay in the Capital because that's a lot of money to ask parents to foot the bill for. There's a reason excursions are usually kept close to home. Definitely can get behind visiting local war memorials, though. Mine went to the Holocaust museum, the Ballarat memorial grounds and a few other sites in the area. Definitely drives home the tragedy of war.
Aussie here. This is a very powerful song for us - Makes strong men and women go completely silent. The song can almost be too hard to listen to sometimes. Makes me shake my head at what young men and women go through for their country. Prayers and respect to our Veterans in Aus, & USA. Lest We Forget.
Both my Granddads fought in the war. One for England and the other was one of the first Aboriginal men in the Air Force. This song hits home for me a lot. John Schumann was the singer of the band Redgum, he wrote this song based on the experiences of his brother in law who served in the Vietnam war. One veteran told John that when he first heard his song he pulled his car over and cried for about an hour because it was the first time since the war that he felt like someone else understood what he went through and was still going through. It's a very powerful song
The United Kingdom and France were also signatories to the Manilla Pact and treaty bound to send troops to protect South Vietnam's independence; which they both abdicated and refused to send troops in. I'd like to thank them FOR NOTHING!!! God bless the Aussies, the US, the South Vietnamese soldiers and a few other countries that chipped in (I think Pakistan was one), they're the real MVPs.
@@PopeSixtusVI well , the French had already been kicked out of Indo China by the early sixties. I would imagine that they were not keen to go back and loose again. The UK had said as far back as 1946 I think , that the French should get out or not return and leave Vietnam , Laos etc to their own peoples.
Aussie here, this song, even now, stops me in my tracks every time and brings tears to my eyes. Extremely powerful song, just like your reactions and emotions listening to it❤ never stop talking!
Context on the song intro: Passing out parade - Graduation parade from recruits Puckapunyal - Central Victoria. Was used as a recruit training base then, now Kapooka Mid NSW is used. 6 Battalion - Aus Army was loosely based around 9 Infantry Battalions of the Royal Australian Regiment. Drew the card. - Allegedly a card draw decided the companies sent. (May stand corrected on that) Canungra - Jungle warfare school in the hills behind the Gold Coast. Shoalwater Bay - Lovely training area mid Queensland near Rockhampton. Still active today for multi national exercises Townsville - City in North Queensland with Major military bases. Seven wonderful years based there. (no sarcasm, its great) Cheers!
@@wazzag5131 Agreed. Because we always took fishing rods in our vehicles and the mud crabs were plentiful at Sabina point. There was also Aviators beach, a natural spring water pool behind the sand beach that we would fly into on a break.
Thank you for covering this. This song brought the atrocities of war home to the Australian population, and we weep to this day when it plays. Bless our veterans, our soldiers and all who stand with us 🇦🇺 .
From an Aussie, thank you for your insightful reaction which obviously took a toll on you. There is a much later version titled "PTSD15 Special Recording "I Was Only 19" John Schumann" that has John Schuman (the lead singer) talking quite a bit about PTSD.
Aussie combat vet Thank you brother for doing this,it’s about a Viet Nam vet but regardless of the conflict all vets can relate to it,there’s days l don’t leave the house with my PTSD,every day I ask why l’m still here 🇦🇺🇺🇸
PTSD has always been an issue for as long as humanity fighting amongst them selves has been. my grandfather was a constable in Australia, enlisted as in the ''British expeditionary forces'' in 1918 since he was not ''British''. He became a corporal, then a sergeant during WW1. He was gassed by the Germans, and sent to America to ''recuperate''. I only saw him once, when I was 3, in 1963.
This song comes on the radio, or gets played by someone, somewhere, everyone stops in their tracks. This song does not fuck around, does not sugar coat. It is brutal. It is real. I was lucky to see John Schumer perform this live at the ANZAC Day AFL function this year, and as always, it was tears and chills. If you haven't already, it's worth checking the back story in this. Denny is the singer's sister, and the story is from the point of view of her husband (John's brother in law). Simply mind blowing 😢
I thought this song was sung at the G two years ago, not this year.I don't know how I held it together that Anzac Day.I was ready to bawl my eyes out when John sang this gem of a song.
I'm a 71 year old Aussie. Only recently got on to VA because of PTSD that has often ruled my life. Our era didn't talk about things that traumatised us. "Build a bridge and get over it" was the phrase we threw at each other to prove our masculinity. I now know that talking to others helps. Our country was very slow in saying thank you for your service.
I’m 22 years old living in NSW. Thank you so much for your service, I’ve gone to the war memorial many times and I’m always so overwhelmed with your loyalty to our country. Don’t ever be afraid to talk about your experience, it’s unique to you and anybody who criticises you for it is an ignorant tool. My generation has benefited so greatly from your sacrifice and from all of us I really, truly want to thank you.
I also do not understand it. I know my trauma is negligible in comparison to many. My brain still reacts to trauma. Let's try to be kind to all who feel the pain. xxxx
"Frankie kicked a mine the day mankind kicked the moon. He was going home in June." Neil Armstrong kicked that moon dust on 21 July 1969. Frankie's tour was supposed to end in June, he got extended.
No, not really. This was poetic licence on John Schumann's behalf, there was no other month that rhymed with moon. And it wasn't Frankie (Frank Hunt) that kicked the mine that day, it was their platoon leader Peter (Skipper) Hines and out of respect to his widow and little boy, they kept his name out of it. Frankie was wounded by that mine, by the way and it did occur the day mankind kicked the moon. There's been a lot of interviews with Frank Hunt over the years.
@@utha2665 Thanks for the correction, the myth that his tour was extended and that it was Frank (Francis) Hunt that trod on the mine has been related ad infinitum. I've in fact given up trying to correct it. Frank was sent home early due to wounds serving from 08 May 1969 to 22 Jul 1969.
The song writer wrote this song after speaking to his brother inlaw who served in Vietnam. He played it to his brother inlaw and some other Vets before Redgum released it. They said he captured their experiences perfectly.
John Schumann was an amazing story teller and singer. The story behind this song, inluding that royalties for the song go to the Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia, is so inspiring. I had the please of seeing John sing solo at our University Hall in the mid 80's. It was one of those performances and memories that never leave you. Him singing I was Only 19 with just a guitar and his voice was spine-tingling and eerie.
@@CQuinnLady But we need them to return the favour if/when required which is why we always help them. Our military is awesome, but tiny in comparison to the USA and China etc.
I'm an Aussie who has never been anywhere near a warzone and this song hits me like a freight train every time I hear it. I can't imagine how it felt for you to hear it after your experiences. Thank you for treating it with such respect.
Let me tell you a short story of my PTSD diagnosis. I was wounded four times in Vietnam. Two were recorded. I will be 80 in less than three weeks. I received my first wound at the '68 Tet Offensive. My 2nd wound was about two months later which I refused to report. The 3rd wound occurred on or about June 2, '68 which I refused to report. The 4th wound was a grenade explosion on June 4, '68 that sent me home with hundreds of fragments permanently in my body and brain with loss of sight one eye, deafness one ear, brain damage and neurological injuries to the entire neuromuscular system. The Army threw me out and the VA misdiagnosed everything. I was however disabled retired from the Army Mar. '69. I never received a purple heart for the retirement wounds until three days ago. Why? Because of a false statement in the telegram that was sent to my wife about my injuries. It's that simple. The VA had diagnosed my neurological injuries as PTSD, along with the site and hearing loss. I've been on crutches for over 20 years now and the VA refuses to admit any brain damage causing neurological problems to my body. I went outside and got the correct analysis of the brain damage and fragments in the brain. I had a 60% disability until I turned 70 when the VA gave me a 20% increase to 80% due to PTSD. They still refused to admit fragments in the brain and brain damage. Six months ago, the VA finally admitted after 55 years that I "might" have neurological damage due to fragments in the brain. Sound unbelievable? Well, it's true. I'm presently having my disability reviewed after 55+ years for brain damage. I have a former Army friend who has been 100% disability retired for PTSD! I kid you not. My point is you are right, and I personally have experienced or witnessed both sides. Yes, I have been F'D my whole life and I am betting no money on any improvement in my disability at nearly 80. I'm trained to be F'D by the system. Enough said.
Australia is not part of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation), because we aren’t in the Atlantic. We are, however, part of the ANZUS (Australia, New Zealand, USA) Treaty & the AUKUS (Australia United Kingdom, USA) Treaty.
Thanks for sticking with it mate ❤ it's a powerful song and i see you feel it. As an Australian I'm glad you're able to relate from the other side of the world. Btw we were there to help you blokes 👍.
This song has always haunted me, because I lived in that Era. It was on the TV News every night, and when it was Christmas time, they let the Aussie Boys and Girls send recorded messages to their loved ones. My Husband was going into the next Ballot , until we had a change of Government, and we pulled out of the War. The way these Soldiers were treated, was reprehensible, and made to feel worthless, as well as dealing with PTSD. Wow, I can feel you are dealing with these Demons now….I’m glad you have found a way to cope, partly . Virtual hugs, from Down Under.🇦🇺
It wasn't Whitlam's Government that pulled us out. It was the previous Liberal Government that proposed the withdrawal in 1970 it beginning with the non replacement of troops in 1971 with all but a small force that remained to clear up logistics, they being home in April 1972. Whitlam wasn't elected until December 5th 1972. The only troops that remained after that were the guard at the Australian Embassy in Saigon.
@venderstrat I can smell the uranium onyour breath hehe Yup it used to be called ANZUS but because of a political promise made by a labour govt years ago we are not really "officially" with America but are part of 5 eyes which is its replacement.
We always have a great rivalry with our brothers and sisters across the water! But if our ANZAC brothers and sister need us, Australia and I will be there!
Suggestion : Cold Chisel "Khe Sahn" and "When The War Is Over" - war songs done by one of the greatest Aussie bands you've never heard of. Lead singer is JIMMY BARNES
As an Australian, I thank you for your service. You got this mate, keep your head up. As dark as life can be sometimes, it always gets better. We might not know the demons you fight, but as long as you stay in the fight and overcome them. This song always make me tear up, and seeing your genuine reaction, made me tear up again. I am not a veteran, and will never claim to be, but have many family members serve over many conflicts, and do feel your struggle. Stay strong brother, your family need you to be.
We got into Vietnam because USA and Australia have gotten into everything together since WW1 , and from someone fortunate not to endure war I will always appreciate your efforts and sacrifice 👍
@ Trump? Sensible? He is just a toxic conman. Wait til you lose everything so he and his rich mates can take it all. America is dying. You will remember this in a few years time when you have to sell your house to survive in the Republican/MAGA apocalypse.
As has already been stated you should react to " The Band played Waltzing Matilda " . Its about Anzacs ( Australia New Zealand Army Corp ) at Gallipoli. It was our baptism of fire .
@@step1drag1dwnunda The Commonwealth of Australia was formed in 1901 . Prior to this there were 6 separate colonies , which operated independently from each other ,under British oversight . Those who fought in the Boer War were Colonials . Those who fought in WW1 were Australians .
@@macman1469 You are half right. 11 October 1899 - 31 May 1902 is the dates of start and finish of Boer War. That makes them Australians. Federation was 1st January 1901. The majority of that war they were Australians.
Obviously this has brought up some deep felt emotions from your own harrowing experience in a war zone etc. This song has taught many of us just how brutal war is and that the affects of it last a life time.... Thanks so much for your honest reaction and sharing part of your own story., Stay strong and be well my friend. Love from Australia
Wow! I'm an Aussie, and I feel so honoured by the respect you showed this important song. It is so precious to us and such an important part of honouring our veterans. The experiences you shared were hard to tell, and hard to hear, but so important. Good medicine. Thank you.
This is such an insightful review of An Australian military song that continues to resonate with almost all Australians. Please God let us not have another war...
I'm a mid 70s male and remember this era vivedly. At the time, National Conscription was introduced for all 18 yr old males for the purpose of building the ranks of the Australian Armed Forces with the possibility of being sent overseas to fight. I myself registered, and my card, which was my birth date, never came out and I was one of those that were rejected. A number of workmates and freinds weren't so lucky and ended up fighting in Vietnam, and some of those returned and have never been the same. My son, who was a member of the Airforce, spent time in Khandahar and the Australian base at Tarin Kowt, suffers from PTSD and is still attempting to overcome problems, but is gradualy recovering. Thank you for such a great reaction and especially your own feelings, with dealing with kind words to all veterans.👍👍
National Service or Conscription was never for 18 year olds. You were required to register on your 20th birthday From the AWM "The national service scheme required most men who turned twenty years of age and who were 'ordinarily resident' in Australia to register with the DLNS. Men turning twenty who were temporarily absent from the country at the time of their birthday were required to register within fourteen days of returning. From June 1968 men turning twenty who intended to travel overseas could not do so without first obtaining permission from the DLNS, while airline and shipping companies were not to issue tickets to men in the twenty-year age group without first obtaining a departmental certificate. However, the Government could neither prevent men liable to register from travelling to New Zealand, for which a passport was not required, nor prevent them from obtaining and using British passports, after which the Government had no way of tracing the men's movements." Don't bother asking how I know, 4th Intake, ex RAA.
You are correct with this information as my memory regarding my registered age I was incorrect (possibly due to the songs title). After thinking about it, I realised that I had to be older as I already had a car licence and had been working at my first job for some time, so I appoligise for my incorrect information. About 16 years later, I went to a new job and my boss as it turned out, had been and army engineer, with several tours to Vietnam, who became a well known for his bomb disposal experience , and whose expertise was used on the 1979 Australian Film "The Odd Angry Shot" which starred Graeme Kennedy, Bryan Brown and other well known actors of that period. His name is listed in the credits and the end of the movie.
Can’t listen to this song and not shed a tear. We who have not served will never know what our troops go through. But this song more than any I’ve heard at least gives us a better understanding. ❤
John Schumann wrote this song about his brother-in-law.'s experience in Vietnam. He released another video years later where he discussed writing the song and the impact of it. He tells the story of one particular veteran who had been gaslighted by his doctor. When he heard this song, he was driving. He pulled his car over and cried. It is really worth watching simply for the story he says before singing the song again.
When he talks about the Chanel 7 chopper chilling him its because Chanel 7 (Australian TV station) purchased a Huey to use as their news chopper after Vietnam. My grandparents lived next door to the Chanel 7 studio in Sydney and I remember hearing it coming in to land and taking off as a kid.
This is an amazing song. We have grown up with this in 🇦🇺. I work with VETS and the suffering they live everyday is appalling. I’m shocked Americans don’t know this song. It’s an Aussie icon.
"The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is a must. It’s WWI, where in percentage of population terms, Australia lost more young men than any other country. Largely on the beaches of Gallipoli.
Both the Eric Bogle and Liam Clancy versions of "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" just tear at your heartstrings. They are just mournful and sorrowful and should be played to any politicians before they consider sending troops to war.
Thank you for covering this so thoughtfully. As an Australian it always brings a tear to my eye because it reminds me of the people I knew growing up who had served in Vietnam. I'm sorry for any trauma you've experienced as such a young man and I hope going forward you have only good days ahead.
I worked with a woman whose husband had been a Vietnam soldier, he had severe mental trauma and was physically affected by Agent Orange, both their children were born with disabilities! She worked so hard to support them all! I hope you can learn to move on from the trauma, I have a tiring photographic memory and really felt your pain! 😪🙏
Thank you for reacting to this song. As other Australians have said, it holds a special place in our hearts. In my case, my understanding of the horrors of Vietnam (and war) began with hearing this song when I was young. PTSD is a horrific condition to endure and I understand your view on people who are diagnosed after relatively minor events. I think, with some people, it’s nothing more than a convenient excuse. It’s exactly the same with ADHD, Autism etc For those of us who are genuinely struggling with such conditions, it is frustrating to see resources wasted and misunderstanding spread due to the people who are taking advantage of an incorrect diagnosis. I will disagree on one point though. Hell comes in many different forms. Certainly, war is one of the worst. However, you can’t compare traumatic experiences. Often, experiences that seem less traumatic than war, can have an equally negative impact. There are many different factors that contribute to PTSD and CPTSD and no two people will be affected by the same event in the same way.
@@andrewleontiades1407 you mean we were dragged into a bunch of wars we had no place in due to our governments ridiculous, continued loyalty to the US?
Australia joined because of the red threat and America asked. We've been if basicly every American conflict since ww2 and Asia is our back yard. We were in Korea too
Australia should have never been involved in South Vietnam. We were “sold down the river” by “Pig Iron” Bob Menzies and “all the way with LBJ” Harold Holt. Over 500 young Australians died in that conflict and 10s of thousangs of 20 year olds like me were conscripted. Pity the politicians hadn’t been sent instead. Grüße aus Australien.
I went with my parents as a 9 month old baby to the Sydney docks in 1969 to farewell my young Uncle (My Dads younger brother) who was in the 6th Battalion and off to Vietnam. The 6th Battalion were the most impactful Battalion of the Australian Army in the Vietnam war. This song mentions them. My Uncle was only 20 years old at the time and had to have his 21st birthday over there. So young😔 He was conscripted. This song means alot to me. When he made his speech at my wedding in 1999, he pulled out a photo of my older brother and I that my mother gave him before he left that day on the dock. He carried it in his shirt pocket all the time he was in Vietnam. It meant so much to me that he still had it and it helped remind him of love, family and home fighting in that terrible war. Our young men were forced to go to war only to be shunned when returning home and not even allowed to march in the National Anzac Day Parades as war veterans until the 1990s. So instead of the bureaucrats being punished for their serious stuff up involving our troops in this war, the returning soldiers were instead. Disgusting times. I want to say thank you to all service people for their sacrifice and service to their countries. My dear Dad served in the Royal Australian Air Force for 44 years from 1963 until he retired in 2007. My Dad wasn't sent to Vietnam thankfully. I am so sorry you have had to suffer from the effects of war too. Stay strong.❤🇦🇺
Hey man, as a civilian and somewhat a pacifist just want you to know that you have my utmost respect and sincere gratitude for what is the highest form of public service.
I'm in a similar situation. Civilian. Basically pacifist. But have utmost respect for those who served for all of us. Especially as I'll never know, truly appreciate that experience
This song never fails to give me chills. Means so much to Australians. Always play it on ANZAC day. Thank you for giving your thoughts on this song. Respect for your service.
This song to this day, brings me to tears. I think of how young these soldiers were in any war. I can only imagine how bad it was. I'm forever grateful to any young soldier and the bravery they had to fight. I respect this song and love Regum. It makes me proud to be an Aussie, the we have this song, lest we forget.
I don’t know how you went through this song & weren’t bawling your eyes out. PTSD is no joke. The worst possible experiences you could imagine are experienced in war, there is no doubt. But trauma is different for everyone. When you’ve experienced what you have, it would be hard to imagine someone else experiencing the symptoms of PTSD for something you may deem ‘lesser’. We are wired differently & for some, relatively smaller ‘traumas’ & those that seem ‘not as bad’ still cause the symptoms & experience of PTSD. This is the first video of yours that I’ve seen & you gained my total respect & follow/subscribe. Thank you for your service. From a proud Aussie. ❤
Australia entered the Vietnam War in April of '65 in response to the US wanting to secure allies and strengthen strategic relations to halt the spreading movement of communism in SE Asia.
Subscribed. Aussie here. Respect for you and all you put yourself through, we are one and we feel you. Keep moving forward and try your best to leave the past in the past. (It is what it is) I'm going to go through every video you have posted and like. It's my pathetic way of saying thank you for your service !
Great reaction mate. My friends and I went to so many Redgum concerts in the eighties. When they played I Was Only 19, the venue went silent. Utmost respect to all our veterans, especially those of Vietnam. Delve into the Battle of Long Tan, Australian Diggers (soldiers) at their finest. Take care mate.
ive been a firefighter for 20 years and my very first car accident was the worst. No Details. Mum Dad Kids. took me about 4 weeks to sleep again but 15 years to really put it to bed. Tell your story, dont be afraid to tell it. When i was suddenly realizing i needed help all those years later when i rang for help i had to leave a message on a ph. Suddenly i realized i was over. i cannot imagine what you have been through but i was the oldest son to a man this song could be about so i can and i do hold the greatest respect for you. God Bless you, Your colleagues and all those who serve today.
This is one of several war themed songs in Australia. Off the top of my head "And the band played Waltzing Matilda", which is extremely highly recommended.
I was born and raised in Australia. This song is a legend here. Truly shakes me to the core. I have some dear friends that I have sat with and drunk coffee and listened to all the stories of their Vietnam service. Engineers at Long Tan, Provost Marshall(MP''s), soldiers to name a few. I was only a child then but now, the least I can do is shut up and listen if they need to talk. I am extremely honoured to listen to them talk and grateful to be able to help. I knew you would struggle with this one. It is so hard to listen too but I am glad you liked it because you are very right: it shines a light on PTSD and the horrors of war. Thank-you for taking the time to do this without knowing the risk. Stay safe, reach for your support and if you can't, know that their is a shoulder for talking for any vets who come my way, if you care too. Huge, virtual hugs. Kerry from Australia.
The Vietnam War was very divisive in Australia and many of us shunned the servicemen who took part in it. This song from a long-haired muso back in 1983 did a great deal to heal the rift.
Not an Aussie, but I heard of this song while listening to Billy Joel's Goodnight Saigon and I had to hear this. I lost my high school sweetheart to Vietnam, guess that ages me, but he is worth remembering even though the tears still come.
The song is subtitled "a walk in the light green". "It's a song about two mates of mine who went to Vietnam, came back Agent Orange victims. The title "A Walk in the Light Green" stems from the fact that when the Australian soldiers in Vietnam were given their missions, they looked at the areas where they'd be working in on the map and if it was dark green on the map, then there was cause for some consolation, because dark green meant thick jungle, lots of cover, and there were no mines. If they were working in areas that were light green on the map, that meant light jungle, not much cover, and heaps of mines. This is a song for Mick and Frankie. It's called "A walk in the light green". John Schumann (Redgum). A direct quote from a live version of this song I have.
Mick is John Schumann's brother in-law, Denny is Mick's sister Denise (from the first line of the song). This song was paramount in getting an apology from the government and getting recognition and a street march to welcome them home.
On 29 April 1965 Prime Minister Robert Menzies announced in parliament that Australia would send a battalion of combat troops to Vietnam. The decision was motivated by a desire to strengthen strategic relations with the United States and to halt the spread of communism in South-East Asia. Peace out.
I'm an Aussie that grew up in the 80s. I've heard this song that often but it was just a song. Watching videos like this has been a light bulb moment for what this song means. Thank you for opening my eyes
If this song comes on the jukebox in an Australian pub, the noise stops.
It's an unofficial national anthem.
100%
The ultimate anti war song..
So true
The reaction is almost the same as when the bugle calls, solemn.
100 percent. We will hoot and holler and fist bump for Khe Sanh, but Only 19 is sacred.
As an Australian, this song has been respected in our culture for decades. It is as powerful now as it was back in it's day. Thankyou for a very meaningful and honest and difficult review. We need to know and understand the trauma our soldiers go through. I know it's an American thing to say but I have always liked it's sentiment and a thing I think all servicemen need to hear - Thankyou for your service.
Thank you for your support!
@TormentedVet_Reactions Watch "Battle Of Long Tan" Documentary on UA-cam, It has actual Australian Soldiers who served in Vietnam and what happened to those bad asses, They are small forces but are no joke, were fearless and held there own...
@@TormentedVet_Reactions bless you good sir for your service, I never served but I can see from your eyes you've seen some things. I'm sorry you have to carry that burden. I only wish I could shoulder that pain for you, even if only momentarily, as way of repaying you and your brothers and sisters in arms for your selflessness and bravery.
@@TormentedVet_Reactions This song was written after a long talk with a Viet vet. It is pretty well a sacred song in Oz.
The other sacred song of Oz, in regard to war service, is:
And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda,
about a badly wounded Oz WW1 man who came back. If you listen to it, PLEASE listen to the original, not a cover. Sung by a Scots man, called Eric Bogle, who moved to Australia, and wrote the song, and recorded it, in the late 60s or early 70s.
Both make most decent people weep.
The line about, he was coming back in June, is pragmatically, a rhyme needed. The timeline doesn't work, but we forgive that, because the song is so moving to us all, to the men who served, to wives, to children, who lived with the damage done.
It may well be hard to listen to, precisely because you identify so much with the song.
It is good to give it to people who don't get what you are going through.
@@georgielancaster1356 That vet was his brother inlaw at the time, John was going out deni. Hence the "mum and dad and deni" line
Mate, as an Aussie chick, let me ask you to be kind to yourself. I wouldn't have blamed you for walking away halfway through this song. I could see the upset in your eyes. Big hugs to you. Take care.
AS an Aussie this song brings a tear to my eyes every time I hear it, and yes it refers to vietnam
As an Aussie Digger ditto.
Me too ❤
@@popcornshiner3937 mum said dads last few days with cancer he was obsessed with looking for the orange thing that’s what he would say he tore the house apart night after night looking for the orange think yes he was very sick yes medicated it was only as mum and I spoke after he had passed coukd the orange thing been the ancient orange glow 🤷♀️
@@luvsnyluvsny1209 Sorry to hear that. Ptsd it sounds like.
Me too ❤
As an Australian, I'm so sorry that this song and it's music video triggered your PTSD. I can see your pain and I sympathize. But truly that is the point of the song, the Vietnam veterans were trreated like shit when they returned to Australia from the war and this song MADE Australians aware of the reality of what occured in Vietnam and the reality of PTSD and shell shock. Thank you for an honest and emotional understanding of one of Australia's most powerful anthems.
As the widow of a Vietnam Vet who took his life two and a half years ago, I thank you for your caring and sharing.
I'm so saddened to hear of your Husbands lost battle mate, I wish you warmth, fond loving memories & healing xxx
So sad for you.
I'm sorry for your loss.
I’m so sorry for your loss ,
My condolences for your loss. He fought a war we never understood for far too long. May he rest in peace.
Australia got into Vietnam as a direct result of its "special relationship" with USA. We were pressured to join. Our participation in this war caused a division within our society and our veterans were treated appallingly on their return. This song is culturally significant as it was part of a movement to recognise and validate our Vietnam Vets. It also serves as a love song from a (finally) grateful country to all our PTSD suffering veterans, from Vietnam and more recent conflicts. My extended family has a tradition of military service - my Dad was in Vietnam - and we hold all veterans within our hearts. So bless all vets, wherever they may be. Know that your service and sacrifice will never be forgotten
@@lindabailey1600 A special bond we’ve seen in every conflict
you will find behind the scenes Australia pushed the USA to go to war in Vietnam due to the perceived communist threat being to close and the threat of invading Australia
For some of us it goes way back before Vietnam. My father lied about his age and signed up for WWII in Australia at age 14 .. he died at age 53 from alcohol abuse. Our childhood, our mother’s marriage, everything was pure hell as a result of his PTSD, which 50+yrs ago wasn’t even a thing. We couldn’t possibly understand then what was going on in his head but we know better now. He would stay up all night drinking and watching war movies … lying on the living room floor pretending to be shooting the Japanese in the movies. He would drink and smoke till he passed out on the sofa, only to repeat when he woke day in, day out till it killed him. So, thank you sir for this respectful and personal reaction, for your service, for your sacrifice. This song talks to every vet who ever saw active service, and as someone said earlier, it is an anthem in our country.
The fact remains that if 300 million Indos decide to march south one day, the ADF would be lucky to last a week. We've needed the Americans ever since Churchill gave us up.
@@mareenorth8790 Our fathers fought , so that we did not have to , dad was a Rat of Tobruk , an ambulance driver . No PTSD , but in his final hours , under the morphine , we got a small idea of what it was like . He never spoke about the war . Both gone and missed , God bless you for your story , it cant have been easy .
As written on the Australian War Memorial website...
I was only 19 was released in March 1983 when discussion of the Vietnam War, which had so fiercely divided public opinion a decade earlier, was generally avoided in polite conversation. A generation of veterans had been left feeling isolated and with a belief they had been forgotten by their country. I was only 19 provided a fresh perspective, presenting a compelling sympathetic account of an Australian soldier’s experience of the war and its aftermath. Concentrating on the toll paid by those who took part rather than debating the merits of the war itself, it became the quintessential song of the Australian Vietnam War veteran.
John Schumann - who was the lead singer of Redgum at the time the song was written - based the lyrics on the experiences of his brother-in-law Mick Storen, who served with 3 Platoon, A Company, 6 Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (6RAR) in Vietnam in 1969.
The song’s alternative title, A walk in the light green, refers to patrolling in a patch of jungle known by troops as “the light green”, due to its colour on topographical maps, indicating lightly wooded areas presenting little cover and a high likelihood of land mines. The song refers to events that occurred during Operation Mundingburra, a search and destroy operation conducted between 14 July and 18 August 1969, during which Mick Storen’s platoon patrolled in the light green to the east of the Long Hai hills.
I'll just add that I believe OP's reaction is exactly the same as most people who hears this song. Much like Eric Bogle's "and the Band sang Waltzing Matilda" ua-cam.com/video/WG48Ftsr3OI/v-deo.html
Please check out a song buy John schuman called plympton high
ty for the information mate i have loved this song for years and now can also be informed as to location ,persons ,etc
Australia was in Vietnam in 1962 and stayed until 1972. President Johnson became the first sitting U.S. President to visit here in 66 to get the cooperation of Australian troops via our Prime Minister Harold Holt. We have fought alongside the U.S in every war since the start of the 20th century. Approximately 60,000 Australians served in the war: 521 were killed and more than 3,000 were wounded.
@@greypossum1 I think you will find, when you travel around the country roads and you notice the soldiers graves from Vietnam ( and they are in pride of place in small towns near the cenotaph) you will just about count 500 on one Sunday drive.
@@christineyates2618your idea of small towns is different to mine. If more than 250ppl, it's not small, I live in a place in tassie of around 45 full-time residents. Next town over with 300 ppl has an RSL but no self respecting soldier after 1999 will step foot on the grounds.
@lopppp out here in regional Queensland my village has 9 residents.
@@terencemcgeown2358 No loss to the RSL if they're going to be like that. Wagga boys died in Vietnam and their names are listed on the local Honour Roll. One of our lads, John Edmonson, was awarded a VC in WWII. We at least are proud of our fighting men.
@@greypossum1 it’s amazing to me how many Americans don’t know this. I dated a US Marine for 3 years and he and the rest of the Marines and Navy guys didn’t even know Australia has always been here.
My beautiful nephew did 2 tours of Afghanistan with the ADF and came home so broken. My sister drove to get him and he was in the foetal position in the back of her car. The ADF did nothing to help, he joined the Victoria Police and they are the ones who took care of him. He has lost several brothers, who have taken their own lives and we were terrified as a family, that we would lose him. He just got married in Greece yesterday to the most beautiful girl who knows how to help him and they have a one yr old daughter. He can still have a bad day but his life has changed dramatically and we are so thrilled for him. I’ve just been looking at the wedding videos from my sister who is there. He looks so happy ❤️
Thanks for sharing with a story of love and hope. Great to hear.
@@karenglenn6707 as an Australian I sincerely appreciate his service. So disappointing to hear that the ADF weren’t there to support his recovery or adjustments after leaving. That is a national shame. I’m so pleased to hear that he has found love, happiness and family 💕I sincerely wish him all the best for his future.
@@dellishart9535 thank you so much for your kind comment. So many others are suffering, and as I mentioned, he has lost army brothers to PTSD. He felt helpless and hopeless, and while joining the Police (we are a police family) may not have been the perfect choice (he would have still been facing trauma with domestics etc) they did a wonderful job in looking after him. My heart nearly burst seeing he and his beautiful new wife do their wedding dance. What a difference she and the baby have made to his life. She is just perfect for him ♥️
So glad to hear this young man has found happiness in his life
Now all they need is a very sweet, gentle rescue dog from one of the rescues in Greece, and he will have a wonderful family, full of care and support for each other. Parents, baby, dog... Full house. Lol.
This song is so important in Australia and was so pivotal to changing the way Vietnam vets were seen in this country that lyrics from it are on the national war memorial in Canberra.
@@guyhouse3219 the war memorial in Canberra should be a mandatory school excursion nationwide. The emotions I felt visiting there were overwhelming. I can’t imagine how a war vet survives past being in the thick of it & the losses they experienced. 😔
@@debbarber8765 Maybe not the one in Canberra, unless the gov is footing the bill for large amounts of kids to come from all over Australia and their stay in the Capital because that's a lot of money to ask parents to foot the bill for. There's a reason excursions are usually kept close to home.
Definitely can get behind visiting local war memorials, though. Mine went to the Holocaust museum, the Ballarat memorial grounds and a few other sites in the area. Definitely drives home the tragedy of war.
Aussie here. This is a very powerful song for us - Makes strong men and women go completely silent. The song can almost be too hard to listen to sometimes. Makes me shake my head at what young men and women go through for their country. Prayers and respect to our Veterans in Aus, & USA.
Lest We Forget.
U.S. deep state is Evil
Lest we forget. We will remember them.
@@jqryan lest we forget 🙏
@@jqryan LEST WE FORGET
We will remember them.
Both my Granddads fought in the war. One for England and the other was one of the first Aboriginal men in the Air Force. This song hits home for me a lot.
John Schumann was the singer of the band Redgum, he wrote this song based on the experiences of his brother in law who served in the Vietnam war. One veteran told John that when he first heard his song he pulled his car over and cried for about an hour because it was the first time since the war that he felt like someone else understood what he went through and was still going through. It's a very powerful song
Actually our involvement was due to the ANZUS treaty. Australia, New Zealand (who were also there) and the USA.
The United Kingdom and France were also signatories to the Manilla Pact and treaty bound to send troops to protect South Vietnam's independence; which they both abdicated and refused to send troops in. I'd like to thank them FOR NOTHING!!! God bless the Aussies, the US, the South Vietnamese soldiers and a few other countries that chipped in (I think Pakistan was one), they're the real MVPs.
@@PopeSixtusVI well , the French had already been kicked out of Indo China by the early sixties. I would imagine that they were not keen to go back and loose again.
The UK had said as far back as 1946 I think , that the French should get out or not return and leave Vietnam , Laos etc to their own peoples.
@@bri200490 The British telling the French to leave a country and its peoples alone is pretty f*cking funny.
@ yeah , but have a read about the experience of WW2 in Indochina and the surrender of the Japanese there to the Brits in 1945
Aussie here, this song, even now, stops me in my tracks every time and brings tears to my eyes. Extremely powerful song, just like your reactions and emotions listening to it❤ never stop talking!
Context on the song intro:
Passing out parade - Graduation parade from recruits
Puckapunyal - Central Victoria. Was used as a recruit training base then, now Kapooka Mid NSW is used.
6 Battalion - Aus Army was loosely based around 9 Infantry Battalions of the Royal Australian Regiment.
Drew the card. - Allegedly a card draw decided the companies sent. (May stand corrected on that)
Canungra - Jungle warfare school in the hills behind the Gold Coast.
Shoalwater Bay - Lovely training area mid Queensland near Rockhampton. Still active today for multi national exercises
Townsville - City in North Queensland with Major military bases. Seven wonderful years based there. (no sarcasm, its great)
Cheers!
The only good thing about Shoalwater Bay is Sabina point.
@@wazzag5131 Agreed. Because we always took fishing rods in our vehicles and the mud crabs were plentiful at Sabina point. There was also Aviators beach, a natural spring water pool behind the sand beach that we would fly into on a break.
@@johnderatt3168 I believe drawing the card refers to the Nashos who were conscripted and sent to Vietnam.
Thank you for covering this. This song brought the atrocities of war home to the Australian population, and we weep to this day when it plays.
Bless our veterans, our soldiers and all who stand with us 🇦🇺 .
From an Aussie, thank you for your insightful reaction which obviously took a toll on you. There is a much later version titled "PTSD15 Special Recording "I Was Only 19" John Schumann"
that has John Schuman (the lead singer) talking quite a bit about PTSD.
Aussie combat vet
Thank you brother for doing this,it’s about a Viet Nam vet but regardless of the conflict all vets can relate to it,there’s days l don’t leave the house with my PTSD,every day I ask why l’m still here 🇦🇺🇺🇸
You got it brother
@@TormentedVet_Reactions
Aussie combat vet
You need to see Broken Soldiers by Beccy Cole it also covers PTSD but in more recent conflicts 🇦🇺🇺🇸
Thank you for your service, from one Aussie to another
@@echofoxpaw73
Aussie combat vet
Please don’t thank me
A few shots fired my way doesn’t make me anything special 🇦🇺
@@2eREPPARA my brothers are both ex army, I just appreciate our Anzacs, sorry
German Vet here, wishing all the best, PLEASE get every help! You are not alone!
Your concern is appreciated. I’m glad that out generations have been able to build back as friends after two terrible wars.
PTSD has always been an issue for as long as humanity fighting amongst them selves has been. my grandfather was a constable in Australia, enlisted as in the ''British expeditionary forces'' in 1918 since he was not ''British''. He became a corporal, then a sergeant during WW1. He was gassed by the Germans, and sent to America to ''recuperate''. I only saw him once, when I was 3, in 1963.
This song comes on the radio, or gets played by someone, somewhere, everyone stops in their tracks. This song does not fuck around, does not sugar coat. It is brutal. It is real. I was lucky to see John Schumer perform this live at the ANZAC Day AFL function this year, and as always, it was tears and chills.
If you haven't already, it's worth checking the back story in this. Denny is the singer's sister, and the story is from the point of view of her husband (John's brother in law). Simply mind blowing 😢
I thought this song was sung at the G two years ago, not this year.I don't know how I held it together that Anzac Day.I was ready to bawl my eyes out when John sang this gem of a song.
Aussie Iraq Vet here, this randomly popped up in my feed to watch tonight.
It"s a powerful song, plenty of messages within. Hope you're OK brother.
Boomer cranky old man says. Thank you, thank you, thank you. OZZY OZZY OZZY
I'm a 71 year old Aussie. Only recently got on to VA because of PTSD that has often ruled my life. Our era didn't talk about things that traumatised us. "Build a bridge and get over it" was the phrase we threw at each other to prove our masculinity. I now know that talking to others helps. Our country was very slow in saying thank you for your service.
Thank you for your service Bob - I respect you. I'm 66 and missed ALL of this - I was a young dumb ass kid back then.
They said the same thing to my Uncle Ed when he survived the brutal treatment of The Japanese.
@@BobJames-cp9pz Thank you Bob for your service to this country.
Regards David
Wishing you healing. Your sacrifice is appreciated.
I’m 22 years old living in NSW. Thank you so much for your service, I’ve gone to the war memorial many times and I’m always so overwhelmed with your loyalty to our country. Don’t ever be afraid to talk about your experience, it’s unique to you and anybody who criticises you for it is an ignorant tool. My generation has benefited so greatly from your sacrifice and from all of us I really, truly want to thank you.
Big HUGS to you young man. You are never alone, the Aussies will always stand with you
Australian here - I play this song every Anzac Day and The Band Played Waltzing about Gallipoli War 🦘🇦🇺
As an Aussie I grew up with his song, served in the Army and RAAF. Brilliant song to help people understand a soldiers life.
Luv ya man! I'm a veteran's daughter and love your true and sensitive comments and appreciate you reviewing this Aussie tune. Thankyou
I also do not understand it. I know my trauma is negligible in comparison to many. My brain still reacts to trauma. Let's try to be kind to all who feel the pain. xxxx
Couldn’t agree more
we all need something to lean on but sometimes we wall it off and push on cause it is what we know.
"Frankie kicked a mine the day mankind kicked the moon. He was going home in June."
Neil Armstrong kicked that moon dust on 21 July 1969. Frankie's tour was supposed to end in June, he got extended.
No, not really. This was poetic licence on John Schumann's behalf, there was no other month that rhymed with moon. And it wasn't Frankie (Frank Hunt) that kicked the mine that day, it was their platoon leader Peter (Skipper) Hines and out of respect to his widow and little boy, they kept his name out of it. Frankie was wounded by that mine, by the way and it did occur the day mankind kicked the moon. There's been a lot of interviews with Frank Hunt over the years.
@@utha2665 Thanks for the correction, the myth that his tour was extended and that it was Frank (Francis) Hunt that trod on the mine has been related ad infinitum. I've in fact given up trying to correct it. Frank was sent home early due to wounds serving from 08 May 1969 to 22 Jul 1969.
The song writer wrote this song after speaking to his brother inlaw who served in Vietnam. He played it to his brother inlaw and some other Vets before Redgum released it. They said he captured their experiences perfectly.
John Schumann was an amazing story teller and singer. The story behind this song, inluding that royalties for the song go to the Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia, is so inspiring. I had the please of seeing John sing solo at our University Hall in the mid 80's. It was one of those performances and memories that never leave you. Him singing I was Only 19 with just a guitar and his voice was spine-tingling and eerie.
Thank you for ur reaction and being honest and vulnerable. This song is still very important and relevant
A buddy of mine has been sending me more Australian country/folk style music and I gotta say wow! Y'all got some talented people behind the 🎤
Australia has stood beside the USA in every conflict of modern times. We are a staunch ally.
We've actually been in every conflict with the US in the last 100 YEARS!!
Wouldnt it be nice if we stopped following them to ALL their failed conflicts.
We're an "ally" to the USA in the way all US "allies" are: temporary useful pawns.
@@CQuinnLady But we need them to return the favour if/when required which is why we always help them. Our military is awesome, but tiny in comparison to the USA and China etc.
@@CQuinnLady Yes but the Puppets running our Country just follow orders.
I'm an Aussie who has never been anywhere near a warzone and this song hits me like a freight train every time I hear it. I can't imagine how it felt for you to hear it after your experiences. Thank you for treating it with such respect.
This made it real for people who didn't go. I cry everytime i hear it, i protested as a teen i understand better as an adult.
Let me tell you a short story of my PTSD diagnosis. I was wounded four times in Vietnam. Two were recorded. I will be 80 in less than three weeks. I received my first wound at the '68 Tet Offensive. My 2nd wound was about two months later which I refused to report. The 3rd wound occurred on or about June 2, '68 which I refused to report. The 4th wound was a grenade explosion on June 4, '68 that sent me home with hundreds of fragments permanently in my body and brain with loss of sight one eye, deafness one ear, brain damage and neurological injuries to the entire neuromuscular system. The Army threw me out and the VA misdiagnosed everything. I was however disabled retired from the Army Mar. '69. I never received a purple heart for the retirement wounds until three days ago. Why? Because of a false statement in the telegram that was sent to my wife about my injuries. It's that simple. The VA had diagnosed my neurological injuries as PTSD, along with the site and hearing loss. I've been on crutches for over 20 years now and the VA refuses to admit any brain damage causing neurological problems to my body. I went outside and got the correct analysis of the brain damage and fragments in the brain. I had a 60% disability until I turned 70 when the VA gave me a 20% increase to 80% due to PTSD. They still refused to admit fragments in the brain and brain damage. Six months ago, the VA finally admitted after 55 years that I "might" have neurological damage due to fragments in the brain. Sound unbelievable? Well, it's true. I'm presently having my disability reviewed after 55+ years for brain damage. I have a former Army friend who has been 100% disability retired for PTSD! I kid you not. My point is you are right, and I personally have experienced or witnessed both sides. Yes, I have been F'D my whole life and I am betting no money on any improvement in my disability at nearly 80. I'm trained to be F'D by the system. Enough said.
I have 2 words "Long Tan" our boys did us proud their sacrifice means the world to any true Aussie
Australia is not part of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation), because we aren’t in the Atlantic. We are, however, part of the ANZUS (Australia, New Zealand, USA) Treaty & the AUKUS (Australia United Kingdom, USA) Treaty.
Thanks for sticking with it mate ❤ it's a powerful song and i see you feel it. As an Australian I'm glad you're able to relate from the other side of the world. Btw we were there to help you blokes 👍.
This song never fails to tear me up. Thank you brother. Love from Australia
This song has always haunted me, because I lived in that Era. It was on the TV News every night, and when it was Christmas time, they let the Aussie Boys and Girls send recorded messages to their loved ones. My Husband was going into the next Ballot , until we had a change of Government, and we pulled out of the War. The way these Soldiers were treated, was reprehensible, and made to feel worthless, as well as dealing with PTSD. Wow, I can feel you are dealing with these Demons now….I’m glad you have found a way to cope, partly . Virtual hugs, from Down Under.🇦🇺
It wasn't Whitlam's Government that pulled us out. It was the previous Liberal Government that proposed the withdrawal in 1970 it beginning with the non replacement of troops in 1971 with all but a small force that remained to clear up logistics, they being home in April 1972.
Whitlam wasn't elected until December 5th 1972.
The only troops that remained after that were the guard at the Australian Embassy in Saigon.
dont forget there were a lot of kiwis that also were there suppoting our western island mates.😉
We will never forget our NZ cousins. Why aren't you in AUKUS?
@venderstrat
ANZACs
Aussie , new Zealand army core.
But I understand we also train with the Americans as well
@venderstrat
I can smell the uranium onyour breath hehe
Yup it used to be called ANZUS but because of a political promise made by a labour govt years ago we are not really "officially" with America but are part of 5 eyes which is its replacement.
We always have a great rivalry with our brothers and sisters across the water! But if our ANZAC brothers and sister need us, Australia and I will be there!
Settle down there, us Aussies appreciate the support from our eighth state.
Suggestion : Cold Chisel "Khe Sahn" and "When The War Is Over" - war songs done by one of the greatest Aussie bands you've never heard of. Lead singer is JIMMY BARNES
As an Australian, I thank you for your service. You got this mate, keep your head up. As dark as life can be sometimes, it always gets better. We might not know the demons you fight, but as long as you stay in the fight and overcome them.
This song always make me tear up, and seeing your genuine reaction, made me tear up again. I am not a veteran, and will never claim to be, but have many family members serve over many conflicts, and do feel your struggle.
Stay strong brother, your family need you to be.
We got into Vietnam because USA and Australia have gotten into everything together since WW1 , and from someone fortunate not to endure war I will always appreciate your efforts and sacrifice 👍
Let’s hope you get a sensible President who maintains the treaty.
@@anEyePhil did
@ Trump? Sensible? He is just a toxic conman. Wait til you lose everything so he and his rich mates can take it all. America is dying. You will remember this in a few years time when you have to sell your house to survive in the Republican/MAGA apocalypse.
This song still brings me to tears. So proud it's both Australian and universal.
@@Renfair333 brings tears to my eyes x
There were 60,000 Aussie Vietnam vets.
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Australian Army was great with gorilla warfare where the Yanks weren't. We've faught more in the scrub/bush than America has during wars.
@robertgreen4117 😂
@@robertgreen4117 "gorilla warfare"? "faught more in ......"?
From an Aussie with PTSD - God bless you sir
❤❤ It makes me Cry when you soldiers get teary while listening to this song.
We Love You❣️❣️❣️
As has already been stated you should react to " The Band played Waltzing Matilda " . Its about Anzacs ( Australia New Zealand Army Corp ) at Gallipoli. It was our baptism of fire .
I’m waiting. No disrespect meant at all, because you get it and respect it.
Yep, 100%
What about the Boer war, Australia lost 593 men there? Does the Boer War rate a mention as our baptism of fire?
@@step1drag1dwnunda The Commonwealth of Australia was formed in 1901 . Prior to this there were 6 separate colonies , which operated independently from each other ,under British oversight . Those who fought in the Boer War were Colonials . Those who fought in WW1 were Australians .
@@macman1469 You are half right. 11 October 1899 - 31 May 1902 is the dates of start and finish of Boer War. That makes them Australians. Federation was 1st January 1901. The majority of that war they were Australians.
Obviously this has brought up some deep felt emotions from your own harrowing experience in a war zone etc. This song has taught many of us just how brutal war is and that the affects of it last a life time.... Thanks so much for your honest reaction and sharing part of your own story., Stay strong and be well my friend. Love from Australia
Im sorry that it still hurts so much, mate. Praying for your peace in this life and thereafter. 😢
Wow! I'm an Aussie, and I feel so honoured by the respect you showed this important song. It is so precious to us and such an important part of honouring our veterans. The experiences you shared were hard to tell, and hard to hear, but so important. Good medicine. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind words!!!
This is such an insightful review of An Australian military song that continues to resonate with almost all Australians. Please God let us not have another war...
I'm a mid 70s male and remember this era vivedly. At the time, National Conscription was introduced for all 18 yr old males for the purpose of building the ranks of the Australian Armed Forces with the possibility of being sent overseas to fight. I myself registered, and my card, which was my birth date, never came out and I was one of those that were rejected. A number of workmates and freinds weren't so lucky and ended up fighting in Vietnam, and some of those returned and have never been the same.
My son, who was a member of the Airforce, spent time in Khandahar and the Australian base at Tarin Kowt, suffers from PTSD and is still attempting to overcome problems, but is gradualy recovering.
Thank you for such a great reaction and especially your own feelings, with dealing with kind words to all veterans.👍👍
National Service or Conscription was never for 18 year olds. You were required to register on your 20th birthday
From the AWM
"The national service scheme required most men who turned twenty years of age and who were 'ordinarily resident' in Australia to register with the DLNS. Men turning twenty who were temporarily absent from the country at the time of their birthday were required to register within fourteen days of returning. From June 1968 men turning twenty who intended to travel overseas could not do so without first obtaining permission from the DLNS, while airline and shipping companies were not to issue tickets to men in the twenty-year age group without first obtaining a departmental certificate. However, the Government could neither prevent men liable to register from travelling to New Zealand, for which a passport was not required, nor prevent them from obtaining and using British passports, after which the Government had no way of tracing the men's movements."
Don't bother asking how I know, 4th Intake, ex RAA.
You are correct with this information as my memory regarding my registered age I was incorrect (possibly due to the songs title). After thinking about it, I realised that I had to be older as I already had a car licence and had been working at my first job for some time, so I appoligise for my incorrect information.
About 16 years later, I went to a new job and my boss as it turned out, had been and army engineer, with several tours to Vietnam, who became a well known for his bomb disposal experience , and whose expertise was used on the 1979 Australian Film "The Odd Angry Shot" which starred Graeme Kennedy, Bryan Brown and other well known actors of that period. His name is listed in the credits and the end of the movie.
Nashos deserve our respect
We went to Vietnam because the USA went to Vietnam - we don't let our mates fight alone, even if it's a bad idea
Unfortunately the USA has dragged us into a ton of wars. We need to stop following the war machine.
Are we really mates? more master and slave to me. With mates like the US government you certainly do not need enemies.
And we expect them to do the same for us....which is the main reason we always go to their stupid wars.
Fkn oath!
The US and Australia are sibling nations of the same abusive parent.
Can’t listen to this song and not shed a tear. We who have not served will never know what our troops go through. But this song more than any I’ve heard at least gives us a better understanding. ❤
My husband is a Vietnam vet and still struggles with PTSD. Will be praying for you. ❤
@@melissatuel862 very high suicide rate from the kids of viet vets it’s one of the highest in Australia
John Schumann wrote this song about his brother-in-law.'s experience in Vietnam. He released another video years later where he discussed writing the song and the impact of it. He tells the story of one particular veteran who had been gaslighted by his doctor. When he heard this song, he was driving. He pulled his car over and cried. It is really worth watching simply for the story he says before singing the song again.
Our servicemen got no thank you till maybe 30 yrs late.yall deserve a medal
When he talks about the Chanel 7 chopper chilling him its because Chanel 7 (Australian TV station) purchased a Huey to use as their news chopper after Vietnam. My grandparents lived next door to the Chanel 7 studio in Sydney and I remember hearing it coming in to land and taking off as a kid.
I love hearing the Aussie accent in songs. And the fact that this is a great song and depiction of war and the effects of it.
This is an amazing song. We have grown up with this in 🇦🇺. I work with VETS and the suffering they live everyday is appalling. I’m shocked Americans don’t know this song. It’s an Aussie icon.
As an Aussie and former RAR member who served in Iraq I hear you man
"The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is a must. It’s WWI, where in percentage of population terms, Australia lost more young men than any other country. Largely on the beaches of Gallipoli.
And Rachel, the triad
What are they marching for, and I ask myself the same question 😢
Both the Eric Bogle and Liam Clancy versions of "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" just tear at your heartstrings. They are just mournful and sorrowful and should be played to any politicians before they consider sending troops to war.
Totally agree
The jungle was sprayed deliberately
Thank you for covering this so thoughtfully. As an Australian it always brings a tear to my eye because it reminds me of the people I knew growing up who had served in Vietnam. I'm sorry for any trauma you've experienced as such a young man and I hope going forward you have only good days ahead.
I worked with a woman whose husband had been a Vietnam soldier, he had severe mental trauma and was physically affected by Agent Orange, both their children were born with disabilities! She worked so hard to support them all! I hope you can learn to move on from the trauma, I have a tiring photographic memory and really felt your pain! 😪🙏
Thank you for reacting to this song. As other Australians have said, it holds a special place in our hearts. In my case, my understanding of the horrors of Vietnam (and war) began with hearing this song when I was young.
PTSD is a horrific condition to endure and I understand your view on people who are diagnosed after relatively minor events. I think, with some people, it’s nothing more than a convenient excuse. It’s exactly the same with ADHD, Autism etc For those of us who are genuinely struggling with such conditions, it is frustrating to see resources wasted and misunderstanding spread due to the people who are taking advantage of an incorrect diagnosis.
I will disagree on one point though. Hell comes in many different forms. Certainly, war is one of the worst. However, you can’t compare traumatic experiences. Often, experiences that seem less traumatic than war, can have an equally negative impact. There are many different factors that contribute to PTSD and CPTSD and no two people will be affected by the same event in the same way.
Aussies have fought with America in every war together
@@andrewleontiades1407 you mean we were dragged into a bunch of wars we had no place in due to our governments ridiculous, continued loyalty to the US?
@@ariellewilson5867 Don't forget that the US was late into WW2 and nearly missed WW1.
Australia joined because of the red threat and America asked. We've been if basicly every American conflict since ww2 and Asia is our back yard. We were in Korea too
@solreaver83 Since WW ONE. We've fought with USA in every major conflict.😀
Australia should have never been involved in South Vietnam. We were “sold down the river” by “Pig Iron” Bob Menzies and “all the way with LBJ” Harold Holt. Over 500 young Australians died in that conflict and 10s of thousangs of 20 year olds like me were conscripted. Pity the politicians hadn’t been sent instead. Grüße aus Australien.
@@solreaver83 Actually, Australia & USA have fought together since 1917.
@@aussieragdoll4840 yes but only by coincidence. Ww2 started alliances and political will to support America.
@@Blue-Dog only by coincidence.
I went with my parents as a 9 month old baby to the Sydney docks in 1969 to farewell my young Uncle (My Dads younger brother) who was in the 6th Battalion and off to Vietnam. The 6th Battalion were the most impactful Battalion of the Australian Army in the Vietnam war. This song mentions them. My Uncle was only 20 years old at the time and had to have his 21st birthday over there. So young😔 He was conscripted.
This song means alot to me. When he made his speech at my wedding in 1999, he pulled out a photo of my older brother and I that my mother gave him before he left that day on the dock. He carried it in his shirt pocket all the time he was in Vietnam. It meant so much to me that he still had it and it helped remind him of love, family and home fighting in that terrible war.
Our young men were forced to go to war only to be shunned when returning home and not even allowed to march in the National Anzac Day Parades as war veterans until the 1990s. So instead of the bureaucrats being punished for their serious stuff up involving our troops in this war, the returning soldiers were instead. Disgusting times.
I want to say thank you to all service people for their sacrifice and service to their countries. My dear Dad served in the Royal Australian Air Force for 44 years from 1963 until he retired in 2007. My Dad wasn't sent to Vietnam thankfully. I am so sorry you have had to suffer from the effects of war too. Stay strong.❤🇦🇺
Hey man, as a civilian and somewhat a pacifist just want you to know that you have my utmost respect and sincere gratitude for what is the highest form of public service.
I'm in a similar situation.
Civilian. Basically pacifist.
But have utmost respect for those who served for all of us. Especially as I'll never know, truly appreciate that experience
This song never fails to give me chills. Means so much to Australians. Always play it on ANZAC day. Thank you for giving your thoughts on this song. Respect for your service.
This song to this day, brings me to tears. I think of how young these soldiers were in any war. I can only imagine how bad it was. I'm forever grateful to any young soldier and the bravery they had to fight. I respect this song and love Regum. It makes me proud to be an Aussie, the we have this song, lest we forget.
I don’t know how you went through this song & weren’t bawling your eyes out. PTSD is no joke. The worst possible experiences you could imagine are experienced in war, there is no doubt. But trauma is different for everyone. When you’ve experienced what you have, it would be hard to imagine someone else experiencing the symptoms of PTSD for something you may deem ‘lesser’. We are wired differently & for some, relatively smaller ‘traumas’ & those that seem ‘not as bad’ still cause the symptoms & experience of PTSD. This is the first video of yours that I’ve seen & you gained my total respect & follow/subscribe. Thank you for your service. From a proud Aussie. ❤
this song is more than song ,its a very powerful statement
Australia entered the Vietnam War in April of '65 in response to the US wanting to secure allies and strengthen strategic relations to halt the spreading movement of communism in SE Asia.
Remarkable, insightful and personal reflection on PTSD, thank you sir.
Subscribed. Aussie here. Respect for you and all you put yourself through, we are one and we feel you. Keep moving forward and try your best to leave the past in the past. (It is what it is) I'm going to go through every video you have posted and like. It's my pathetic way of saying thank you for your service !
Great reaction mate. My friends and I went to so many Redgum concerts in the eighties. When they played I Was Only 19, the venue went silent. Utmost respect to all our veterans, especially those of Vietnam. Delve into the Battle of Long Tan, Australian Diggers (soldiers) at their finest. Take care mate.
Sadly you’re not home until you’re home and even then a part of you will always be there
ive been a firefighter for 20 years and my very first car accident was the worst. No Details. Mum Dad Kids. took me about 4 weeks to sleep again but 15 years to really put it to bed. Tell your story, dont be afraid to tell it. When i was suddenly realizing i needed help all those years later when i rang for help i had to leave a message on a ph. Suddenly i realized i was over. i cannot imagine what you have been through but i was the oldest son to a man this song could be about so i can and i do hold the greatest respect for you. God Bless you, Your colleagues and all those who serve today.
This is one of several war themed songs in Australia. Off the top of my head "And the band played Waltzing Matilda", which is extremely highly recommended.
I was born and raised in Australia. This song is a legend here. Truly shakes me to the core. I have some dear friends that I have sat with and drunk coffee and listened to all the stories of their Vietnam service. Engineers at Long Tan, Provost Marshall(MP''s), soldiers to name a few. I was only a child then but now, the least I can do is shut up and listen if they need to talk. I am extremely honoured to listen to them talk and grateful to be able to help. I knew you would struggle with this one. It is so hard to listen too but I am glad you liked it because you are very right: it shines a light on PTSD and the horrors of war. Thank-you for taking the time to do this without knowing the risk. Stay safe, reach for your support and if you can't, know that their is a shoulder for talking for any vets who come my way, if you care too. Huge, virtual hugs. Kerry from Australia.
Engineers at Long Tan?
Your body language says so much, your reaction is why the song was written. Its a song for you... and me as someone who hasn't experienced this
Love this song, powerful.
Must've been hard for you to remember brother, This song hopefully brings some help, Australia is with you
Beautiful comment, and yes we are with him.
The Vietnam War was very divisive in Australia and many of us shunned the servicemen who took part in it.
This song from a long-haired muso back in 1983 did a great deal to heal the rift.
“You wouldn’t let your mates down, until they had you dusted off”….. Australian motto. God Bless the ANZACs ✝️🇦🇺
This is why the song was written, to address PTSD
Not an Aussie, but I heard of this song while listening to Billy Joel's Goodnight Saigon and I had to hear this. I lost my high school sweetheart to Vietnam, guess that ages me, but he is worth remembering even though the tears still come.
The song is subtitled "a walk in the light green". "It's a song about two mates of mine who went to Vietnam, came back Agent Orange victims. The title "A Walk in the Light Green" stems from the fact that when the Australian soldiers in Vietnam were given their missions, they looked at the areas where they'd be working in on the map and if it was dark green on the map, then there was cause for some consolation, because dark green meant thick jungle, lots of cover, and there were no mines. If they were working in areas that were light green on the map, that meant light jungle, not much cover, and heaps of mines. This is a song for Mick and Frankie. It's called "A walk in the light green". John Schumann (Redgum). A direct quote from a live version of this song I have.
Mick is John Schumann's brother in-law, Denny is Mick's sister Denise (from the first line of the song). This song was paramount in getting an apology from the government and getting recognition and a street march to welcome them home.
Thanks for coving this song mate . All the best from Australia ❤
On 29 April 1965 Prime Minister Robert Menzies announced in parliament that Australia would send a battalion of combat troops to Vietnam. The decision was motivated by a desire to strengthen strategic relations with the United States and to halt the spread of communism in South-East Asia. Peace out.
Australia was involved from 31 July 1962 with Colonel Ted Serong of the AATTV being the first in Vietnam.
Then, they disproved the whole theory about how communism spreads, so like so many other wars, it was all for naught.
Good luck my friend from Australia. If you want another try "And the band played waltzing matilda" which covers the same theme but from WW1.
I was going to mention this one too, Eric Bogle was the songwriter and performer. It's a haunting song.
I was 18 in Desert Shield in 90. Lucky not to be fired on. Still leaves its mark. Respect.
This song powerfully speaks to truth. Maybe it should be revived in its original form to politicians everywhere.
I'm an Aussie that grew up in the 80s. I've heard this song that often but it was just a song. Watching videos like this has been a light bulb moment for what this song means.
Thank you for opening my eyes