HAMILTON Khaki King: Mixed Feelings. REVIEW
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What surprised me the most: I'm usually a bracelet guy but this Hamilton to me actually looks way better on a leather strap! 🤯
I've been wearing this exact model daily since March, on the factory bracelet, and I absolutely love it as a daily watch. I just ordered a brown Colareb Sienna for the winter time, and I think it will look the part!!!
I think field watches look better on leather in particular. I've had this on the leather for over a year. Love it.
Love your channel. Great review as always. I was trying to decide between the Kahki and Kahki King, but the shot of your reflection in the crystal was enough to make me pass altogether. Thank you.
Great review, I have the same love hate relationship with my Khaki field for all the reasons you mentioned but it's still to this day one of my most worn watches
I have been a fanboy since the 60s. I started wearing Hamilton when in the army and currently own 6 fantastic Hamiltons: 2 Khaki Field, Pilot Day Date, a Murph, a Khaki Navy and Intra-matic chrono. I prefer the older watches with a standard, higher beat ETA movement. Over the years I have sold a number of Hammies and they tend to retain their values very well if you buy at a discount (I only buy from an AD, which increases the value once you sell the watch if still under guarantee). Thanks for the video, Dave.
I have been interested in this watch and this detailed review was very helpful. Fabulous camera work. Well done Sir!
Great video. What makes the Hamilton a great deal in my opinion is, that you get a model with a long history, with a great high end movement and the over all great finish on the case and dial. Also you have a great service network with Hamilton beeing part of the Swatch Group.:)
That slo-mo second hand footage is epic.
I like that day/date display. Looks well executed
Almost perfect timepiece, I'll be getting one soon cuz it's a cross between RX Explorer 1, RX Day date, Flieger/pilot all rolled into one.
Congrats on the new watch Dave, looks great on you. Hamilton is a quite decent brand and for the past decade they've come up with many great watches. For the cash you're paying for this watch with a reliable Swiss movement and a solid build is a value for money piece. Enjoy it in good health:)
That's a really honest and useful review! Thank you, Dave!
Thank you for sharing the cons. That really helps to make an informed decision for purchasing.
Thanks for great content. Loved the tweed strap. Had not seen that before 🙂👍.
Great review. The reflections are a HUGE issue almost no one talks about!!!
I've own mine for over a year and I love it. It makes a great daily watch. It is frustrating though to have only two micro adjustments on the clasp. It's bizarre because there is plenty of room just to have drilled more holes which is something I've considered doing myself. And yes friend it looks like your date is misaligned. Mine does not have that issue. I don't find the lack of AR coating an obstacle but I do wish there was more loom . Great review as always!
Excellent review! Looking forward to taking delivery shortly and adding it to my collection!
I love my 38mm khaki field auto with the 80 hours power reserve. That version is 100m water resistant. Also, I like it on the strap code bracelet. I bought mine on leather strap and immediately put it on the strap code bracelet. Great size vent with the slightly long Lugs. The only negative for me is the lack of AR coating.
Good comments. Appreciate your honesty. I'd prefer the numerals around the bottom of the dial be obliterated by the day information than up at the 12. Good video. Keep at it!
I love Hamilton! Almost bought one yesterday. This watch looks good and looks good on you.
i own one with the bracelet. love it, the lack of AR coating for me not a problem at all. the only downside is you must be very careful not to scratch the polished bezel, it's really shiny lol. i've got a small wrist, it fits really fine.
I love my Khaki King.
Bought a few nato straps from Barton Straps and wear it often.
Love the NATO straps. Comfortable plus the option of wearing different colors.
Shane's Champagne dial version sold me on this watch - fell in love with it as soon as I saw it ... just bought it and it is on it's way.
People complain about stuff with this watch, but at the price, it is a very nice watch.
I don't understand this. Are they not, after all, perfectly valid points of contention, asking, 'Why is there so much reflection on the dial? It kinda makes me strain my wrist.' or 'Is a single micro-adjust position really the best they could do on an otherwise nice bracelet?'
Critique is not to say, 'Yeah, it's nice for the price you pay,' because that's obvious, it's almost a necessity of free market economics, it is to say 'Look, here are some things that I, representing your target audience, would like better if done differently; maybe you, the maker, would like to consider them; or you, the consumer, would like to know about them.'
@@MJFallout 2 settings on the bracelet is actually pretty good. I have much more expensive watches that have none. You have the dealer fit your watch and live with it or don't buy it. The lack of a anti reflective face has never bothered me. It is a very recent addition to watches. The non screw down crown actually annoys me the most. Every watch should have a screw down crown
@@rickjason215 I understand that this is a bit of semantic nitpicking, but there is *one* extra hole set, one adjustment; the basic position shouldn't count since it's the default state.
That maybe more expensive watches have no adjustments at all is no mitigating factor, I'd say, it's just further examples of consumers missing out on a fairly basic feature, which they want.
In addition, I cannot decide not to buy it after the dealer has adjusted it, I have to buy it first, no? If then, despite their best effort, the bracelet doesn't fit me well, I'm out of luck.
Hence, micro-adjusts, half-links, slide extensions, are all improvements that many consumers want (and telling them to maybe just stop whining will do very little IMO)
@@MJFallout Why not. The dealer can put the links back on. If you can’t get a good fit after it is professionally adjusted, with 2 micro adjustments available, then you are the one out of a million that can’t be satisfied.
Had a Khaki King with a champagne dial. Was mesmerized by the color and detail of the dial, loved the full day and date placement at the top of the dial. Didn't like the polished bezel and the crown guards. Ending up selling the watch because I wasn't wearing it very much. I do have a 38mm Khaki Field mechanical with a black dial and date, the older version with the ETA 2804-2. That one is only 9.5mm thick, so if you like thin field watches then you'll love this one. I'm getting a Seiko SRPE61 in today and probably only one of these two will stay in my collection.
I love my Khaki King
Yes! Me too Dave. I just don’t quite get this watch. The Khaki King was one of my first quality watches. There are bits I love (the dial, the thinness, the Swiss quality) but it took me ages to work out that the 50mm lug to lug was a minus (it is deceiving considering the size of the dial) and I just don’t wear it much. It fills the gap in my collection for a watch I should like but I don’t really. It was a family gift so it will stay.
Great review. I actually went back and watched your Orient Star review again, as I was curious after this review. The Khaki King is a mid list (I.e. not the short list, not the long term or grail list) watch for me, or it has been. I like the day/date and power reserve, plus everyone raves about it, but I have to agree, I think I favour the Orient overall. It just ticks more of my personal boxes and I like the look, especially the blue dial. Will start my long process of watching key sites for the hopeful deal I need to pull that proverbial trigger. That is what I like about having lists, some you focus more than others 😊
Nice selection of straps you showed, and they went well with the watch! You are picking up some of Shanes queues when it comes to strap shows..😂
Had the field auto in 38 for a few days and for the cost its a nice watch for daily work straight onto nato its great and yes lack of ar is a pity and lume is poor.
I love your take on watches. I actually just purchased my wifes holiday present on Jomashop - epic partnership!
Hey Dave! Can you make a video outlining your go to places for all kinds of straps?
I had the same experience with my Khaki King. You touched every point of what annoyed me of it especially the unnecessary 50mm lug to lug, it makes the watch overhang on the wrist when moves slightly upward on downward when wearing it. It also makes the watch look and wear too flat, a bit disproportionate length to height ratio.
The polished bezel is indeed a scratch magnet and the lume should be better.
I wanted to love this Hamilton KK, I know many people swear by it. The design of the dial is definitely the strongest part but ultimately I ended up selling it. Maybe the same will happen to you.
Great review!
U got exactly the watch i wanna get next so thanx for the vid!
Congratulations bro it’s a nice watch and great review.
I love my Khaki King! I know it has flaws but for 370 U.S I couldn't go wrong for what this watch has to offer. I find it very comfortable and for me personally a joy to wear. Thanks for the video
Where the fuck did you get it for 370?????
@@dariot707 I bought it 3 years ago!
I've had this and the field 38mm, I ended up selling the King as I didn't like the day and found it to be more on the dressy side. The numbers are a bit on the small side as well. The khaki field 38mm is the much better watch, I ended up keeping that.
Wow, I was just doing some serious research on this watch. Wish it had a glide adjust on the bracelet. May have to go aftermarket.
Dave, I think you are right about the other brands with better specs but what I feel that many people (including myself) sometimes forget to consider is the longevity of these watches (or any other product). Khaki king is no way near perfect but it is a tried and tested product that is known to last long. Also, it can be a good idea to give a long time ownership review of the microbrand watches.
I loved my Khaki King when I got it, but right when I took it out of the box the first thing i said was "This bracelet feels cheap". Its since been sold to a friend who wears it every day and is pretty much in love with it. So I guess its still a win.
2:19 As a frenchman i’m glad to see an Opinel knife behind that watch. 😊👍
Thanks and I enjoyed the video. I have been trying some entry level Swiss watches because I simply want to add one to my collection. I just received the watch and wearing it for the first time today. I enjoy the fit and look of the watch. It feels longer than I expected but because it so thin, it still fits okay. I'm a Seiko guy so the lume is tough to overlook. As you mentioned, there are plus and minus for the watch. Right now I'm deciding which out weights the other.
I own one of these, leather strap though with an aftermarket butterfly clasp. Really like this watch. Work as my daily wearer, I own a few luxury watches and a few more affordable alternatives, but the power reserve works so well for me.... Friday after work it goes in the case and Monday morning out it comes, ready to go. Keeps good time, nice and comfy. Love the day date (the 11 and 1 cut off doesn't bother me- think its charming). Its just so functional for every day life... think its fab... are there other options- sure there are, but there's just something about the king that clicks with me. Look better in the metal- that really struck me compared to reviews I saw on YT.
Just my 2 cents
You have the exact same watch I do and we even set it up the same way. I totally agree on the usability.
I have a khaki day date and I'm 6.5" on the wrist, I hear you on the lugs and the lume is quite sad. My preferred is my khaki Navy pioneer watch. Wire lugs, and a cleaner look for me.
Great review. I am never a fan of cutting off the numerals to fit a complication. Leave them off or adjust the complication. The 11 and the 1 are a no no for me. Would like to see that tip of the second hand a different colour..red or blue, etc. Polished bezels also do not win favour with me...hate the fingerprints.
I love it. Its one of my all time favorites and a keeper for life.
instablaster.
Same here. It is the perfect watch for me.
Same. Love everything about it
Me Too...
My favorite in the khaki line is the pilot day date (Interstellar) very interesting and beautiful dial . Better bracelet also 3 micro adjustments. The applied indices have milled grooves in them , that reflect the light in different ways . Depending on the angle the light hits it . It has anti reflect on the inside . It does a decent job . It is super legible, with those big beautiful hands . Similar to the hands on an Onega , Seamaster. The lume is decent , better than the khaki king . But not in Seiko territory. It is a little bigger at 42mm , but the lug to lug is a manageable 48mm . It fits well on small and large wrist IMO. With the awesome bracelet, it's my most comfortable watch. It's one of Hamilton's most popular watches , for good reason .
Your new Hamilton is beautiful! I have had and automatic Khaki for about 15 years and it is perfect! It keeps excellent time ( I compare with my Apple Watch time)…I get compliments on it all the time after all these years. I can dress it up or down…Much more versatile than my Rolex…How could you not like it? My watch is good to 100 meters water resistant…but really I have never been in water more than 10 feet, therefore not an issue for 98% of the owners
Just a great looking watch especially for everyday and weekend wear....can dress it up too. And your go-to beater watch also.
Got a Hamilton Khaki pilot (The Coop) and its my favourite watch. Got the Khaki Field King on my to buy list, but its a field watch, needs to be on leather strap not a bracelet.
The black version, H6445733, really hits the sweet point
Just picked one up at the AD Special one day sale 35% off $400 ZERO Complaints at that price!!!!!!!!!!! ZERO! HOLY Smokes is this thing Accurate! 48 Hours +2 Seconds! More accurate than some of my more Expensive Pieces!
Great watch picked one up on a strap ie the House watch. Costf around £300 for ETA movement with 80hr power reserve. Agree could use more lume and better water resistance would be nice but not deal breakers
I love my khaki field 38mm. Snagged at 429. Very happy
The glare is easily lived with. Wish it had screw down crown, and therefore i dint get it wet.
I’ve owned the KK for over a year and the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Versatile and very comfortable on my 6-5/8” wrist.
Another nice video. What was that interesting mountain at the beginning? It’d be cool to see some more of Japan in your vids!
Have several Hamilton’s, including a Khaki from the 90s that is still running like a champ. That one has anti-reflective coating too - strange that they got rid of that. But my recent Longines is lacking in that department as well, so maybe it’s a Swatch group cost saving measure? Not a good decision, I agree with you. (Or is it caused by a flat crystal?)
Still, love the thin and elegant design of this piece (though I prefer the larger 3,6,9 numerals on your other watch here and on my Longines), and I love the polish and reliability of these ETA movements, which seem to run forever. My sense is you just get a higher level of finish and reliability with the big brands, even if they don’t check all the individual boxes like the best microbrands. Anyway, I’m sure you won’t have any trouble flipping it. :)
Keep up the good reviews.
Agree with the Japan shots thing! Field trips with field watches!
Been wanting one for quite a while, and always put the dough toward other watches. Swatch kind of killed it for me when they started with the Powermatic 80 type movement. I don't need any of these to run that long, because chances are, by then it's going to be off a few seconds, and I'll have to mess with it anyway.
You're right about Jomashops. They have always done me well. About 6 months back, I found a Certina (Swatch) sport type watch that had been discontinued, that I liked, AND the best parts: Old school 2824 movement (28,800 tick tick, and can regulate with a screw), and give away pricing!
Thanks for the review, I am going to get this on a used market with great condition and affordable as a beater watch.
I have the Champaign dial version on a bund strap, Fantastic watch. I hope to receive a knighthood soon, and this may be the watch I wear on the big day
Perfect watch, sits great on the wrist, ultra legible with the day at the top of the dial it never gets obscured as happens when it's at "3". Mine is an older one, 28800 bph, I prefer it and the shorter power reserve isn't a problem. Had it a few years now and its my most worn watch and I have 20odd to choose from.
I was never a big fan of the cut-away situation for the day-date here. However, I'm still a big Hamilton fan. My H70515137 was one of my first autos five/six years ago and remains one of my favorites; like you said, Dave, its a very mature design despite its shortcomings (the lume especially).
Great review and I recently bought a hamilton myself but a khaki air racer (red bull) instead as I can't really appreciate the dial design of khaki king...keep up the great videos coming...
About a month ago, I was struggling to make a decision. I had this Khacki King, a Viewmatic and a Tissot Silicium in my cart, and I was pulling out hair trying to pick one so I could pull a trigger.
That's how it always starts.
Fast forward one month, and I did not pick one in the end. I now own all three.
This hobby is going to send me to the poor house, I tell ya.
😅👍
Which is best .?
@@louisvuitton56 I wear the Khacki King most often, but that is because I am retired and spend most of my life in t-shirts and jeans. But I like the viewmatic for golf shirt occasions and the silicium for when I need a tie.
Reminds me of my SARB017, only less special. I considered this very watch at the time I bought the Alpinist, but the price difference was too big at the time. Gone are those days... If I'd get ever one, and I've been eyeing this for ages, it would have to be the Champagne dial.
I was same with my khaki automatic was a grower, love it now my most worn watch
Bought one for my friends 50th, wore it for a couple of days & was impressed with the quality for the money. It switched me on to the company, so much soI bought a Khaki X Wind automatic (my most expensive purchase to date) & love it. I'd buy myself a Khaki King if that niche wasn't already filled with an Alpinist, but I certainly see more Hamiltons in my watch box in the future. Cheers 👍🏻
Wait... so you bought yourself a watch for your friends 50th?
@@wakawaka1976 no bought it for him, tho I wore it around the house for a couple of days to suss it out. Nice watch, he loves it.
Hi, I have had my eye on this khaki king for some time but some times I see a review on it and want it. Other times not so much. The lack of water resist concerns me. Also I just read from a in the know source that not only do they slow the movement to increase power reserve to 80 hours but that most of the parts in the movement are a lighter build to make it more efficient. I have the Seiko SARB 017 which I love. But Hamiltons history impresses me and I may purchase it anyway.....
I think the Khaki Field Day Date looks better with a day window sitting below the numbers on top. But its on the larger side.
Would love to own a hamilton, but can't get past that poor lume. Thanks for the review. Very nice
Great review Dave…I’m glad you noted that it only had 50m water and push/pull crown…I feel like at this price with that name they could get us 100m/screw down
Had my Khaki (just date dial, red pointer on the second hand)for over 10 years, it looks well used... One thing to mention though, the ETA movements are quite expensive to service when it is time to do so....keep that in mind and also, on the older ETA mvnt, the manual winding mechanism can be quite fragile. Other than that, still love the watch...
Yup to the fragile winding gears. Even on one of my Sellita SW 200 (copy of 2824) movements, I've experienced a winding gear with the teeth stripped off. I can't see that I had mistreated it in any manner. The watch manufacturer repaired it at no charge, and were pleasant about it, so no complaints on my end. They even sent back the old parts to me! Just as I've done for the better part of 30 years with customers' cars and bikes.
I just ordered the sarb017.. also the limited edition presage irish coffee... both broke my bank especially the irish coffee. But now i got my eyes on this!!!
I like the bracelet on this one. It doesn't have the cut in the center links like the 38mm does.
I din't want to get one due to the 50mm lug to lug, the "no AR" and c"heap" lume, ......BUT! I'm Sooooo Glad I pulled the trigger on this one. Im using it with a black vanguard rubber strap for a rolex explorer, just had to bend the springs a little and wala! magnificent! idk, i think my bb58 is going to stay home for a long while.....
Lack AR coating is my one complaint about many Hamiltons. Still, my Blue Alpinist does not have AR and I still love it (though still wish it had some like the new Alpinists). I'd probably more likely wear it on a strap than bracelet, so the lack of many micro adjusts does not bother me. The 50m WR is annoying, but their regular field models have 100m WR, which is exactly what I want in a field watch. I don't need to dive, but I don't want to ever worry about it getting wet, nor worry if I want to swim with it. Maybe that's just me. Overall for the value, it's a pretty good offering, and the 80hr power reserves are just sweet.
I have a Hamilton Khaki Officer mechanical with a 4697 movement extremely steady movement. I don't think it lacks quality in any way.
I'd like to see a comparison between the Hamilton Khaki Field and the Vaer field watch. It seems like my Vaer has mostly the same strengths and flaws that Hamilton has, but not the same recognition for it.
This was my first Swiss automatic, have the older high beat movement, on a leather strap. Looks good on a nato too. Just don't like the crystal without AR. Haven't worn it in years.
Why not get the crystal swapped?
My biggest beef w Hamilton is lack of antireflective crystal.
Agreed, almost impossible to read the time from most angles.
For that reason I had a watch maker put a crystal with AR coating on my Khaki Field Auto. Haven't seen the result yet though.
@@jipke how much does this cost and does it void the warranty
@@Juan-jo5wi Cost me about 50$ I think to get the crystal shipped to Europe, and 25€ for replacing the crystal/gasket and having it pressure tested. The crystal came from Crystal Times USA (don't think they're available anymore). Although I think they're original Hamilton crystals (with coating applied to them by a third party, probably), there's a good chance the warranty has veen voided.
That was the deciding factor that caused me to pass on it. :(
Hoping to get a Hamilton Pilot Pioneer... check it out. 36mm, hand winding, short lugs, only 10mm tall... love it
Get a Hammy Scuba. It's a gorgeous brick that tells time. LOVE MINE!
Wow, that Nomad strap is a surprise! I have been buying straps from them at their brick-and-mortar stall at the mall near me.
Wow. I think the black is a bit more reflective than the champagne, I don't remember having too much of an issue with mine. Even when I took it hiking in Utah. One of the great things about the Khaki Kings is that since they are rather popular they do go on sale for cheaper than some other Hamiltons. Or at least they used to, I haven't been tracking the prices recently. I think I picked up mine for a little under $300.
The Lug to Lug is a bit long, and I noticed it more on the stock strap. Where it was so stiff it was hard to get a good feel on it, but after switching to a nice flexible leather strap I never noticed it again.
The thing I really love about mine is the versatility, which combined with the 80hr power reserve makes it great for traveling. You have a watch that can look casual, and look good at a nice dinner.
300 USD? That would be an amazing deal. Been looking at them for about a year and the best price I saw new was 379 on joma shop, joma is now asking 425!
Sorry 389 is for the black dial with bracelet. I've never seen the champagne dial sold on a bracelet. Not sure why they don't offer it that way. Joma has champagne dial for 399 on leather
@@jacksantoro9858 Unfortunately they don't sell the champagne on a bracelet, and because of that, they are sometimes less. Although from the sound of it, I'm not missing a lot.
I picked mine up from Joma but off their eBay store.
I was a little lucky and Joma put it on sale for about $300 at the same time eBay had a 10% off coupon. So it was probably around $270, and for that, I'm very happy with it. It's pretty amazing how much watch prices fluctuate at times. In fact, looking on Amazon US right now my champagne one is $440, but someone is selling the black dial without a bracelet for $270.
Totally agree on the versatility, that's one of my favorite aspects of it too.
Look at the 42mm pilot day date aka the cooper
Maybe you should take a look at the Hamilton Pan Europ. I just love that watch.
What do guys like for Field watches... Bertucci? Vaer? Marathon?
I have a khaki field and the glare from the crystal is horrible so I rarely wear it.
That multi color strap is nice I ordered a khaki king from jomashop today I like the leather but the strap in your video is catching
Would like it with a 6 or 3 o'clock date. Basically anywhere but where they've put it... Just looks off
Love this watch!.........wish it came with a white dial also................for the summer!
The khaki field will be my next watch to purchase. I'll likely get the bracelet and buy a dark leather strap to switch.
I got the Khaki Field King about a year ago. I haven't worn it more than a few times. Don't know why but it just doesn't look great to me
Mine is my every day watch, but it has a black leather strap. Looks good, easy to read, keeps time. Ticks all the boxes of a good watch. I also have a Jazzmaster for dress up and a Navy Pioneer for sailing. All do their job. It's a good brand name.
Recently collected a Hamilton Khaki with Crown Guard. Old model but worth the buy.
This watch gets the most wrist time the any of my others. The only thing that is a minor annoyance to me is that the day/date changes over at 11:45pm instead of closer to midnight. Besides that the movement is great. It's a perfect, very versatile, everyday watch IMO.
I tried that same watch and other models on at Macy's and they never really struck a chord with me. They are nice just not for me. I think the Hamtun Nanok watch is actually a better version of this design with better dimensions. I do like the increased power reserve though! It does look good on your wrist also! Shame on Hamilton for their Lume though, especially as a field watch! Thanks for your honest review!
i have the champagne dial version of this watch. it was my first swiss auto. I too have mixed feelings about this watch; i saw many videos praising it and thought I should love it too. after i got it, i watched one YTer who said he fixated on the numerals that were cut off by the day complication and that has ruined the watch for me.
Great review. I'm trying to decide between the Hamilton khaki field automatic 38mm, the Seiko alpinist reinterpretation SPB243 and the serica 4512 commando. I feel the Seiko more dressy than field, I love the Serica vintage design with the bonklip bracelet but the Hamilton looks tougher, pure quality and timeless.
Bracelet dosent work needs to be on a green nato or leather strap
This is kinda my grail watch, but you have pointed out a couple of things that I am looking for in a watch. The anti reflective coating and the lume. I just bought a Bulova that is very close to the Khaki- King, and I will wear it a while and see if it scratches that itch before I invest in a Hamilton. Great review as always!!!
Which Bulova did you get?
I have 7.5 inch wrists, and I have 40mm watches. The case size is ok on this but the dial size was just too small for my liking. You certainly need macro zooming eyes to see the fine detail of the watch The khaki Murph at 42mm wears perfectly and that's the one I kept.
Great review!
This was a mini grail for me but I was a bit disappointed with it once I had it. The dial had some dust on it, which is terrible at this price. And the crystal was SO reflective that it spoilt the legibility in certain lights. I really wanted the bracelet version and I missed the "12" so should gone for the khaki field with the red tip on the seconds hand
Wow, that watch looks sharp. Beautiful watch.