The Mystery of Kyron Horman
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Kyron Horman was excited to show off his science project. However, after his step mother, Terri Horman, waved at him as he walked to class, he marked absent, and mysterious disappeared. After the disappearance of Kyron Horman, many other bizarre things would happen, and the last person to see Kyron, Terri Horman, would only act more and more suspicious.
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I just can't imagine two grown adults talking about how they hate a 7yr old. As a younger person I assumed people matured as they got older. It's situations like these that force you to realize how many old overgrown, decrepit, and selfish children roam the earth. Many ppl never grow out of their self-centred child mind.
Just like trump
Or just like Lex Luxon for bringing politics into a place it doesn’t belong...
Lex Luxon Durrrrr OrAnGe MaN BaD 🤪
Lex Luxon and his followers
Well said!
Currently Terri is living in Lake County, California. She drives a green camero with a black stripe on the middle. The town harasses her when she's seen.
Good!
Good
@@teresaspeakman5839 I didn't know this. Thank you!!
Nice one - keep up the pressure 👏👏👏
That gives me the smallest amount of satisfaction, thank you!
Man, that kid being afraid he couldn't find his way home hurts my heart.
I know... I watch a lot of true crime stuff and nothing hurt my heart more than that detail.
Hurts deep. 😔
Same.. this one had me tearing up a bit
Me too. So sad. My heart breaks for his family. 💔😢
Hope your heart feels better soon
Kyrons mom frequently walks through the Forrest trying to find him. She’s a one woman team. I can’t imagine what she is going through and the anger of KNOWING what makes sense but not having enough for an arrest. I really hope this baby is found.
Hate that this the outcome for her, but it does show the unwavering devotion and love from mother to child. There is a dichotomy of purity of love, and the tragic disgusting crime from a supposed somewhat "surrogate" parent and a child into a mixed family. Not at all saying that there is a large proportion of mixed families that don't work or end in tragedy, my point is more the comparative nature to contrast between such diametric opposites. And overall how tragic yet beautiful that a mothers love is so powerful.
This is so sad. Poor woman 😢
Why don't Kyron Horman's World Soldiers help her? They certainly post a lot but I guess they're more talk than action.
@@switchbladekid57 kinda agree with you on this... I'm not going to make excuses. If I was one of his soldiers, I would need probably some sort of ATV or whatever I could use to ride through wherever. I'd do it. I have 15-25+stress fractures in my body including 10 or more fractured vertebrae (sacrum and lumbar) , and more fractures throughout different areas:left side of jaw, left wrist, my pelvis, both rib connections to spine, a couple ribs themselves both hips, and maybe more. I agree with you 💯 that actions always speak louder than words, but if given the chance to help and research in a case like this, or an unsolved murder in general I would love to help if I can. Again I'm broke and going through a health crisis but that shit hasn't stopped me from other things . I wouldn't want to let it run my life know either.
@@OftenGreenLaflippadoos Oh my God, you've really been through the wringer. I'm so sorry that you're suffering like this.
Unfortunately, Kyron Horman's World Soldiers are actually vigilantes, more interested in harassing Terri than in actually locating the boy's body.
I really hate when it's obvious who's done the crime and there's not enough evidence to make an arrest.
i know! there are so fuckin many of them, it's unbelievable.
It’s unreal what people get away with by simply denying and denying. The Casey Anthony case just baffles me beyond comprehension. If you can wait a month before reporting your child missing, get caught telling multiple versions of what happened, have google searches about killing, find blood and chemicals in the trunk... AND still get away with it by claiming innocence... then I’m hopeful committing any crime. Jesus Christ that case baffles me
@A Tangerine the defense in the Casey Anthony case presented plausibility that her father had done it, and Casey 's mother testified that it might have happened that way. Her parents worked to defend Casey.
In this case, we can't even say a crime was committed. A defense attorney will say, "could he have wandered into the woods behind the school and gotten lost?' it's a reasonable supposition.
@@nimo517 I read somewhere it was because of the prosecution trying to get her on higher charges. If they had done like 2nd degree murder not 1st degree they might've gotten that murdering bitch.
but in this case id say they do have evidence cause so many witnessed terri with kyran and she failed polygraph and she cant account for her whereabouts ,which makes it all the more frustrating
Interesting how she was emailing her friend saying that she didn't like Kyron, and yet she decided to take pictures of him with his science project and upload them to Facebook. Almost as though she thought she might need proof that she dropped him off at school...
Well said, I didn't think of that
Exactly my thoughts. Like, good cover up attempt, lady 🤦🏼♀️
While I would take pics (even if I didn't like said kid) I would take them and send to parents for them, not posted for myself of someone I claimed to not like... Unless, what you said.
And what about all the other pictures that were uploaded prior to that? Which Mike has shown here. Am I missing something?
So obvious it was her just from the "family adress" to the public, her body language to Kyron's mother and way she carried herself said it all. Reminds me of my crazy ex.
I hate the videos that dont end with a conviction. That boy needs justice.
No hard evidence unfortunately
yeah if only we could convict people on intuition and feelings
Yes.
people wanting convictions at any cost is how innocent people end up in prison. people like you are dangerous.
@@MrDotR What Mike missed about the Portland Metro Area is the Coyote factor, as we have almost no roadkill here, as the Coyotes eat all the roadkill...
If Kyron did get lost & hurt in the woods or his body was dumped in the woods by a murderer, there could be little to no evidence of their meal within 24 hours...
Which means this case likely will never be solved...
My heart broke at the end when Mike said that one of Kyron's big fears was not being able to make his way home, and then "Hopefully, some day, he will." Well-worded, Mike, as per usual. Thanks for this video; it was so tough, though.
Heartbreaking
I got chills when he said that...
“kyron was scared of not being able to find his way home” that hurt my heart. 😭😭
Totally!
Tears
😢
Because she wasn't taking him home.
It makes me want to cry , this poor baby
A grown up hating a little kid so ferociously that she blamed him for her failing marriage and clearly got rid of him? Jesus. The world is so messed up. That poor baby smiling into the camera at his science fair....and the terror he must have felt in his last moments. I can't imagine. No question in MY mind she's guilty af.
And no doubt once she disposed of Kyron and then the husband via the hired hitmen - she would have inherited the house and any savings / insurance etc. in her husband's name. His son already dead would not inherit a cent.
O.
i just pray it was quick. Very very quick
I was wondering how a grown woman could hate a child. I guess I can understand being annoyed by the "you aren't my Mom and you can't tell me what to do" attitude some kids show. But this kiddo was only 7. Kids aren't usually that young when they start that. My heart goes out to Kyrons parents and step dad.
Reminds me of the Gannon Stauch case. His step-mother killed him for the same reason. At least that evil bitch is behind bars.
The Mom said it best, “I can remember what I ate that day. And she can’t remember where she was.” How horrible, poor boy. He looked so happy at the science fair.
The mom is lying. Terri told the police what she did multiple times. She's still willing to talk to them, but they haven't asked her for an interview since 2010. This is in public records.
I cant remember what i ate for yesterday's lunch. I hope i dont get into any legal trouble. I'd look really bad.
D D SO , are you THAT D.D.? Best friend of step-mom Terry?
D D
What is in public records?
Reno Thomas WE ALL KNOW ITS TERRI!!! ARREST HER ALREADY! Desiree and Terri WERE NEVER friends. Terri put out to try and make herself look better. Terri has always been jealous of Desiree. Can’t understand what the hell Kaine was thinking to go from Desiree to that thing 🤮 Talk about a downgrade. The book goes into EVEN MORE details about HER disgusting scandalous heartless behavior. All of our suspicions haven’t changed. It’s HER. It’s always been HER. All of us in Oregon know it was HER. ARREST HER ALREADY!!!! If you’re from Oregon you’ve got to get a copy of Kyrons book that just came out. It’s called “BOY MISSING - THE SEARCH FOR KYRON HORMAN” by Rebecca Morris. It’s bailable on Amazon, kindle, nook and audio. Totally worth the read. It’s so Heartbreaking to read from Desiree’s perspective but also reaffirming - TERRI IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER HAPPENED TO KYRON ON JUNE 4th 2010. Read the book BOY MISSING- The Search For Kyron Horman - Grab a box of tissues and be prepared to join “Kyron’s World Soldiers” - an army of supporters who want to know
WHERE KYRON IS!!!!!!!! Tick Tock Terri .....
We WILL NEVER GIVE UP KYRON!!
WE PROMISE!!!
In the press call with the parents, Terri isn’t crying, just acting. She attaches herself physically to her husband and Kyron’s mum to simulate a connection and evoke an emotional ‘shared’ response. It’s horribly obvious IMO.
The difference between her and Desire's new husband is drastic. Tony looks actual distraught. Terri looks like "don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious"
I laughed so hard when she said that there was a dodgy white truck by the 7-Eleven and the person asked her where the nearest school was. Yeah pedophiles go around asking random people where the nearest schools are.
That was obviously made up. She probably brought up the pedophile thing to hurt the parents and draw attention away from her.
It is bull shit, because there is no 7/11 in the area
@@MrJeep75 yep
@@MrJeep75 As for the white van. How unoriginal.
Bruh she even looks guilty in the fucking interview
The fact that little boy could never show his science project that he was so excited to show is heartbreaking. who could hurt a child? I can’t even fathom
I don't know why but that made me so sad. My little boy gets so excited when something special happens at school. I just can't imagine
@@1776PonySoldier It breaks my heart. Now that I have children, I can't handle stories like this. I can see the innocence and trust in the child's face in those pictures, and can't even fathom what such an innocent little person could be thinking in their last moments with a person (with whom they love and trust) whilst they are being betrayed in the most horrific way. The thought makes my heart feel like it might come undone.
@chris kibodeaux it’s beyond debatable. I’d say it’s almost certain that she left with him. Sure, they can’t prove it. But common, you know that bitch did it
He walked into a hallway full of Kids and simply disappeared. Or could it be that he never was walking to class.
Which is more probable
@@drewblackland7125 except that people saw him at school. There's pictures of him at school. You have to wonder how many other random adults were at the school that day helping kids to bring in projects and set them up. Schools didn't used to be so tight with security the way they are now. If a bunch of people are going in and out then there would have been many chances for him to encounter someone else. Especially if he stopped in the bathroom or something on the way to class.
This is not unsolved, just not proven, isn’t that right Terri
I agree
TRUTH.
it’s so sad that this is probably true.
Or literally any other creeper that was at the school that morning.
Sometimes...when there is no big proof....the small proofs all together are tight ..and discriminating...(like being the last person with the victim+having some kind of fight struggle in his chest at same day the victim is missing+he is an killer also after few years)
This is proof
That poor, sweet little boy... the science fair thing is just killing me. He was so excited.
Can you imagine not knowing where your child is all those years. Devastating.
Depends on which child actually...
@@themightyparthos The main topic one.
dead anyway
@@aak8297 wow you must have the loneliest of lives I actually pity you. Hopefully you will find your way out of that dark place you're in and find some positivity
She'd be tied to a chair with duct tape until I got my answers.
Remember when Mike said Terri told the school Kyron had a doc appointment that day? I believe she took him and his project to school, took pics, then told him he had a doc appointment. That way he'd go quietly and willingly. I believe it's not merely a coincidence that both she and her best friend have a 90 minute window that they can't account for. This is aggravating and heartbreaking 😡😞
26:28 it's like she's been prepared for. this question... her non existent expression when saying there is ped*phile in the area is so baffling... i mean the kid missing is some one she should have taken care of..
Yep !!!
This is most likely what happened.
You could be right about everything that you said I think she took him somewhere so far away in some forest or something like that took his glasses away from him and knew what would happen and she didn’t have to do anything ‼️ I really hope I’m wrong 😑
@@herpaderp-bp4pe Key word there is “seemed”. The most frightening thing about true crime is that it is true and almost none of the people who commit horrific crimes ever “seem” like they could be capable of it. There could be a whole host of reasons, most likely the depression - which is a subject that needs to be talked about a lot more often - but it doesn’t change the obvious fact that she is involved.
I hope you're at peace where ever you're at Kyron, I'm sorry.
❤️❤️❤️ god I want to cry my heart breaks for this poor baby
It's so heartbreaking. 💔💔💔
😭
Amen......
Terri is that you?
When Mike reiterates at the end that Kyron's fear was not being able to find his way home, it absolutely tears me up.
This is heartbreaking. My son went missing. He was found safe within a couple of hours, but it was the most terrible afternoon of my life. I can't even begin to imagine the torment these parents have gone through.
I know what you mean. My cat went missing once and I completely freaked out, I started hyperventilating and almost puked because I was so upset. Luckily I found her within half an hour. I can’t even (and don’t want to) imagine having a child go missing...
I can’t imagine. I remember my parent’s lost me in a crowd as a child for ten minutes and my Mom was inconsolable. She said it felt like 10 hrs. And I know it’s not the same, but my dog ran off a few weeks ago and I felt my whole world caving in. I burst into tears when he ran towards me after twenty minutes. Loss and be unknown is horrific. Prayers to this family.
Where was he
I was in a clothes shop the other day and because I am in a wheelchair and down low I saw a child hiding under a clothes rack. I whispered to him laughing if he was playing hide and seek and he said no I can't find my mam and I am scared. Obviously I told him to come with me and we would get her. The look of terror on his mothers face will haunt me, Imagine feeling that way for months or years. He had been gone 10 minutes and there had been announcements on the tannoy but I had ear phones in and hadn't heard it, and those who had, couldn't see him because he was hiding.. Stuff like that terrifies me, what if he had stayed hiding (because he had been told not to speak to strangers,) seems the fact I was in a wheelchair made him feel safe enough to talk to me.
My son went missing for a very short time when he was 2 and I'd rather die than experience that kind of fear ever again. This is the worst thing a person can ever go through. I feel so sorry for every parent who lost their child.
Gannon Stauch made me think of this poor boy all over again.
Gannon was killed by Link, obviously.
Same
@JaneyAnimal rescuer 247 Are you saying Gannon's mom lived with her ex,? She didn't live with them in Colorado, she lived out of state. She did however come and stay in that house when she found out Gannon had "ran away" She only stayed to help search, and until it was evident Gannon was gone and his step mother Leticia was to blame. Considering how moronic Leticia is, it didn't take long.
Yeah...way too similar.
@A B Them both taking eerie pictures right before they killed these young boys is one of the similarities that chills my soul. Gannon is asleep in his bed, and Kyron right in front of his science project. I think leticia made herself a suspect on day 2. All those crazy lies, and outrageous behavior. Terry didn't come across as a suspect until weeks into the investigation. I do hope she gets whats coming to her. And I hope she's never allowed to change her name. She should have to live with it for the rest of her miserable life. As far as leticia goes, her goose is cooked. Lol
I was a local resident in two separate Oregon counties where his stepmother hid after local press kept tracking her down and I can't tell you how grateful I am that you decided to reintroduce this case to a new gen of internet slueths. Seriously, thank you. Okay, I'll start the video now....
I’m glad he’s speaking about Kyron !! Sadly, cases like this get pushed aside 😕 Hope they get answers
Fr. I don't think there's a single Oregonian out there believes this lady is innocent. She's our Casey Anthony.
@@Flame44 pushed aside? Its so famous, everyone around the world knows thius case! Meanwhile in the UK, innocent jeremybamber sadly is still in a jail, after being wrongly convicted for his psycho sisters homicidal attacks from 1985!! Why won't anyone cover that, for once!??
@@doxasophosmoros Have you asked any UA-camrs to?
@@robynaverys1036 hey I realize this question wasn't directed at me but I have personally I am from the area I've been following this case from the beginning and I have begged for coverage on this case specifically. Bring Kyron home!!!
I’m from Portland and was 13 when poor Kyron went missing…it’s the case that haunts me. I’ll never forget how hollow I felt, watching the billboards with Kyron’s sweet, smiling face age and tatter with time-further and further from being found…He went from a household name, talked about in assemblies across city schools, to a painful memory. I hope-even if it’s beyond hope-that Kyron’s whereabouts are uncovered. His family, and Kyron’s memory, deserve that closure.
Amazing to think this case would’ve been solved if there were just cameras in the school/parking lot like there are all over the place today
I think about that often..
that pisses me off about this case
@@jasonwilliams5550 haha I know me too. Think about how many cases could be solved if security cameras were around just one or two years earlier.
It would also have been solved if the person that picks the kid up has to show an ID and sign it out.
What is that for a school when someone getting in and just taking a kid without getting asked if that is legit is even possible?
I am not hysteric, but my kid wouldn't go to a school like that.
@@lirrtrainwreck haha?
Man this one sucks. I still see sun bleached posters for him sometimes.
That's heartbreaking. Poor little guy..so innocent. I was a nanny in San Diego when Danielle Van Dam went missing later found murdered. The families kids went to the same elementary school and wanted to always drive around to search for her 😥. He was pretty torn up and afraid for a while. This was back in 2001. This one was extra sad to watch.
I still follow the Facebook page, since 2010
They're everywhere still. People still bring it up and talk about how sketchy Terri was behaving
Damn that is sad.
@@monkiesngoosies56 yeah, I never trusted her...
Someone needs to tell Terry that it is possible to simply just break up with someone without killing them.
If everyone did that mike would loose 3/4 the video content hes does and i would have to find another channel to binge watch
@@briancook7559 lol
Terri*
Chris Watts and a few other people seemed oblivious to that fact as well 🤷🤦
She wasn't dating the child.
Someone has to know something. The fact that a body hasn’t been found and that it’s 12 yrs now makes me so sad. The family deserves answers and I hope the truth comes out soon.
As a local to this case, it just utterly baffles me as to how this case was not solved. There was so much going for the case, so many breadcrumbs and clues to follow, and there is a very clear suspect in this case, yet almost zero movement has been made (at least as far as the public knows) in all of that time. It blows my mind. Where the hell is Kyron? Where is he, Terri? Where is he??
Yep. It still amazes me that it hasn’t been solved. :(
Yes! It always blew my mind that they could never find him.
I'm a local as well, and this was so sad when it took place. For a full year that had Kyron on the news every day. Never to be found or seen.
Maybe Terri blew the detectives???
Scott N I don’t know if they searched any other forests other than forest park, but there’s a lot of forest and mountains to the west of the area. Not even 40 minutes out and you could pull off to a trailhead, go off trail a ways and dump a body there. It would never be found.
Reporters: “The search continues, but now the focus is on the least likely person, the victim’s stepmother.”
Everyone else: “Have they not seen any Disney movie?”
Exactly
I believe statistics also show that rates of filicide and abuse by stepparents are disproportionately common...so from a statistical point of view, she's the most likely person.
Or just looked at cases where kids have been killed? It's most always a parent or stepparent.
I'm a stepmother and we always get such a bad rap. Unjustifiably. But in this case, it seems very probable it was Terry.
@@theEumenides This is true, and yet, I think withholding full judgement until or unless there is enough actual, tangible evidence, is the wise thing to do.
The fact that one of his fears was not being able to find his way home. Legit broke my heart it’s like he knew one day he would never come home
Hope he does.. I know that bitch killed him, but i hope they find him and bring him home to his mama 😭😭😭
@@inassh8685 The stepmom saying “there are a lot of pedophiles in the area” brought another horrible possibility to mind- she could have sold/given him away to a pedo she previously arranged plans with.
I used to volunteer at a center for human trafficking victims (my city of Atlanta is unfortunately a major hub for this), and you wouldn’t *believe* how many victims were sold/given away by their own family members. It’s utterly heartbreaking.
If that’s the case; I hope he is found and given the help he needs to heal.
@@Obsessed_With_Corgis Oh my God! This is horrifying! Thank you for the work you did! I believe this world needs so many heroes coz the villains don't seem to get any fewer 😔
I sure hope no child would suffer in any kind of way 🌷
The step mom standing there hugging the mom during the press conference makes my blood boil... you have to be 1 evil person to be able to stand up there in front of thousands and hug the mother of your victim especially a few days after doing what you did!! Smh
She looked guilty
It sickened me too,,,I figured she had something to do with it
I knew, the step mom did kill him. Nobody in the school saw him at school. They went to sit up and left. He never wen to the classroom.
She’s innocent. She hasn’t been proven guilty it’s been 10 yrs n they still can’t prove it. She is innocent
@@LaymanGamin"Innocent" and "Not Guilty" do not mean the same thing. Neither is the absence of evidence evidence of absence.
I live on Sauvie island. I have been looking for Kyron ever since I moved here 6 years ago. There are a couple of places where it would be easy to hide a body. Poor little guy needs to go back to his parents.
I thought they said there’s only one way on the island, and that the security/security cameras didn’t catch her?
What if she switched cars to drive over the bridge??
@@roseclemons her best friend definitely seems involved, they could've even went back to the friends place and switched cars there so I feel like it's a possibility
I'm from the area and a little older than Kyron would be. Sometimes my friends and I hike around and just look for anything... places we can see the cell tower from, etc. it could definitely ping from the roads and forests on the other side of the river and HWY 30, the river shore... I really feel he has to be somewhere in that area. Maybe not on the island but nearby, and people here are not going to give up or forget any time soon.
@@rebeccan7276 we will NEVER give up on bringing Kyron home. 💛
I live less than an hour from where Kyron was last seen and a lot of people in the area kind of collectively agree that Terri either did it herself or is otherwise responsible in a major way.
He was only two years younger than me, he will be 19 this September 😩
What’s with that emoji bruh
Are you a suspect?
It’s sad. He was really let down 💔
Today is his birthday. Happy birthday Kyron ❤️ the people will never stop searching.
Happy Belated 19th Birthday Kyron🎉🎉🎉
Cried, as soon as you said his biggest fear was, not being able to find his way home. I can't imagine,
bass hed-pe omg me too!! I just immediately teared up. And you know, the step mother would’ve know that too!! Like, she could’ve not even killed him, just injured him and left him far as all hell away so he couldn’t get home!! (Then again, I’m sure eventually he’d have been found then). Poor baby and can you imagine how the father feels right now? Maybe like this woman was only IN his son’s life bc of him. (Although it isn’t his fault though). Omg idk how these parents deal with this....
@@GemmaJadeYT you are so right. Stories like this are the reason that when I split with my husband and my children were young I would never date.
It reads like the tragic setup to a ghost story
Julie 2471 omg I so agree girl!! I mean, this isn’t just a one off case. Little Gannon S. (Idk how to spell last name but I’m sure if you’re on this channel you’re aware who I mean!) if you even google it you will see romantic partners/step parents killing their step children ALL THE TIME!! I can’t even imagine hating a child that much or being so angry with my husband I took it out on an innocent child. I just don’t understand it. And if my husband and I ever separated I doubt I would date again for a very long time, at least seriously bc I have a two year old.. one that’s very close to his mama and it’s disgusting but I’d have to worry about jealousy over my own toddler!! The only hope I see at the end of these horrific stories is that, wether justice is handed out on this earth, in this lifetime or not, we ALL must face God’s judgement one day. Nobody can hide from Him and nobody gets a free pass.... I hope Terri and her friend who seems very much to be here accomplice come to Jesus soon. Just let these parents have their boy back, however they’ll be receiving him. God bless!
Jacob exactly!! There’s a couple stories I’ve seen recently where the woman or girl (bc the ones I’m referring to like 3 or 4 of them they were all female) and one of them had a terrible fear of going out at night bc she was afraid of getting abducted, as a teenager she did get abducted right outside her home and was never seen again. Another one was terrified of the dark bc she feared “a stalker she couldn’t see” and sure enough... you guessed it!! Crazy!! I wonder if there’s some kind of lifelong foreboding or intuition at play here... in stories like this!
His last photograph ever taken is oddly terrifying with the csi shirt. What a handsome young man. Wherever you are little dude I hope you’re at peace and your family one day gets some closure.
I’m telling you do the New Jersey David creato case. The case of a 22 year old father that killed his 3 year old son because his girlfriend didn’t want a boyfriend with a child. So he suffocated him and placed him in a river. This happened less than 7 years ago and he’s getting out in a few years. Even admitted to murder and copped a plea deal. It doesn’t get a lot of attention because the family hired lawyers and tried to shut down information on the son. Please I’m begging you. No one covers it.
Lol you have a funny name
Is it David Creato or Brendan Creato? I was searching for that case and the only one that show up was a Brendan Creato. Is that the one you're talking about?
I could never understand people like that. Even though I only had partial custody, my daughter was always part of the deal. What kind of a woman doesn't want a man that's a responsible father, anyway?
That’s disgusting I hope this comment gets more likes
@@angelnix6114 whooi zzz ahhhhhh Andrey the giant?
.. it's funny...
After Casey Anthony's acquittal...nothing surprises me anymore. The world is full of injustice 😏
Agreed... :(
Took the words right out of my mouth. Cases like this make one’s heart ache; I can’t even imagine how the (innocent) parents and loved ones of these children must feel. It’s an atrocity that no loving caregiver should have to endure. I wish we could figure out a better justice system model. Obv no system can make every person happy; it just feels like ours has fails too often..
right so frustrating there can heavy evidence against a person and yet they arent held accountable i dont understand
Yea the Casey Anthony case pisses me off I know she killed her daughter but shes a free woman cuz they only had circumstantial evidence. You can tell in the interrogation and interviews shes guilty as hell. It's sick
Why is this not enough for a conviction. It is to me. If not ...the police messed it up
Theres a special place in hell for anyone who hurts a child
yeah, it's in the sub-basement. Wayne Gacy, Clifford Olson, Charles Manson, the whole gang is there!
@@petertibbett4990 disgusting vile excuse's of humans dont even no if any of them were human how could anyone even think of doing what they done just pure evil
@troy stevens please never have children.
@troy stevens you’re very creepy!!
@troy stevens right next door to you!😂🤣😂
I cant imagine losing my child and spending years not knowing where they are. Or years suspecting someone of doing them harm and watching that person walk. Im praying that little boy is found and laid to rest, and the case resolved. Painfully sad situation.
Being from Oregon what's even sadder is they're still looking for him to this day... we still get updates on the search every once in a while on the news
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
“Missing Kyron Horman” on Facebook stays updated on Kyron’s case. Since 2010.
@@B-Nana 🥺🥺🥺
I’m from Portland, I’m now 23… I remember when he went missing, I now live and Florida and I’m sad for buddy cus he should be almost 20 now :(
I live in Eugene and saw multiple missing posters for Kyron today. He would now be 18 which is probably why posters are going back up.
Look at that evil woman putting her arm around Kyron's mom. Whispering to her. Comforting her. Makes me feel sick.
I saw that too. Don't touch me witch!
At 25:35 you see that she is acting.
It was hard to watch. I’m sure Kyrons mother had her concerns then.
@@Amanda-yx5xm she sure did! She went on an interview to say that it was weird to have her ex husband's new wife (that he had been cheating on her with) wrap her arm around her & try to comfort her. Ewww
I was looking at that lineup. Trying to figure who was guilty. I picked her before I even knew the story. Because it was near the beginning of Mike's video. You can just look at someone.
I think it’s disgusting that a grown woman resented a child for ruining her marriage. I think perhaps her third marriage was about to be her third divorce and she was looking for someone besides herself to blame. He seemed like such a sweet kid.
Obviously it’s yet to be proven that she did murder that poor boy but I think you are correct, she is showing signs of narcissism in that it’s everybody’s fault but her own when things go wrong. She has also been arrested twice years later for unrelated crimes so she has form. It’s not looking good for her but if she did do it she will never admit to it, that is not how her mind works.
I kept rewinding and listening again to make sure I heard it correctly. I couldn't believe she was blaming the kid.
If your on your third marriage, you really need to look at yourself and your choices
It happens more often than we like to believe. I barely survived childhood. Beatings were intense from the ‘red-headed step-monster.’ The lies she told to turn people against me were pretty wild but very effective. This case ... it’s impossible for me to be unbiased because of what I endured. Tragic and heartbreaking for someone so small to be treated in such a manner.
Story of my life fr
I live in Portland Oregon and have never forgot about Kyron. Terri was basically run out of town. No one believed her...including myself. What I don't understand is, within 90 minutes, Kyron could only be in a small area: Why can't they find him? My hope for the family is they find Kyron. It's been almost 12 years. This still and always will, break my heart.
I'm in the Salem area.
Which is why I wanted to watch this!
I was hoping the case was finally resolved and I'd just missed it somehow. 😢
I moved to Portland the day he went missing. I will never ever forget him. We love you Kyron.
@@uhoh2017 💔
Sounds like Terri could use a visit from Dexter.
American justice, huh? So much for presumption of innocence and a fair trial.
@@w0mblemania Did you watch the same video I did? Which proverbial smoking gun would you like me to direct you to? There's plenty to chose from. Imagine speaking about fairness and generalizing Americans in the same comment.
@@sn4ppydr3w66 That's why we rely on courts of law, and due process, instead of lynch mobs. You're not a legal expert in this case.
@@w0mblemania Watch and read enough of these and the like, and you'll quickly realize that very system can be severely flawed. Regardless, the initial comment was genuinely just a joke, sorry you took it that seriously. There's also a difference between a vigilante and a lynch mob. Sometimes inadequacy isn't acceptable.
@w0mbles Also, "You're not a legal expert in this case." No shit, Sherlock. I'm curious as to how you interpreted anything I said as such.
"One of his fears was being unable to find his way home. Well, hopefully one day he will." Wow. dude. Got me in the feels.
Okay, so this kid mysteriously disappears eh? Let's watch the video.
"He usually rode the school bus." Ok.
"But on this particular day, Kyron was driven to school.." Hm
".. by his stepmother." Hmmm
Ross Pearson I generally agree the whole situation looks shady, esp. with her trying to hire a hit man, but science projects are usually bulky and hard to get on and off school buses, so not super surprising he was driven that day.
@@Itried20takennames hmmmmmmmm
"We have a very clear timeline of her whereabouts for the several hours after that" - oh... this is new...
Multiple people claim that they saw him walk out of the school with his step mother. Ummm yes
Vidalion In which case, no one would have used the bus that day. Which isn’t true, and therefore an excuse, not a reason. My worry is how lax the school security measures appear to have been on that day.
The Mom is a class act. So poised yet tenacious in an understated way. Unimaginable situation😢
NOPE there's no way the whole school marked him absent and he was there. He never went to class. She left with him.
I can’t even think of another viable option
Can confirm I went to this school when this happened and he was there, photographic evidence, student and teacher testimony, and then he was gone. All of us were shocked because how could he just disappear? We were a school of 300 total (kindergarten through 8th grade), all of us were friends and knew each other’s families. There’s no way someone unknown walked into the school and was not stopped and asked what they were doing there, who their kid was, etc. Once my uncle came to pick me and my sister up and no one at the school knew him and so he was stopped from getting more than a couple steps into the building. It all points back to Terri.
@Bill j During research, true crime authors usually go to the source and interview many people connected to the case: neighbors, friends, classmates, teachers.
Bill j WRONG!! Terri is guilty !!!
MULTIPLE ADULTS & children saw Terri leaving with Kyron. It’s not IF it’s WHEN she is held accountable for ALL she has done!
Tick Tock TERRI .. WHERE IS KYRON?!!
Bill j you can’t just base an entire argument off her words tho? Just cuz she said she left without him doesn’t mean she did? She also stated the last time she saw him was when he was walking to class but there was no record of him being at school after Terri left. There is like a 1 in a million chance that a stranger took him in the school building in the ten min it took for her to last see him and class to start. Or that he wondered outside and someone took him in the ten min she saw him walking to class and class starting? Nothing about her story adds up. She lied and he must have left with her. It’s the only reason he left his stuff and didn’t cause a seen when he disappeared and it’s the only story that fits the time line.
Everyone knows he's in those woods somewhere, probably in a ravine. So sad.
Another fact is that since his stepmom is a fitness buff and could physically toss him into a ravine. Not to upset the family and others involved in the case, just staying the facts as presented. God bless that little boy and pray for his soul to be at rest and happy.
Sadly yes. If an adult body can sometimes fit in suitcases and he is a child... It's just heartbreaking. The mother probably has had to really restrain herself, I feel for her. Loss of a child and not knowing what happened is a level of hell no one should know.
I hope the family will get some closure soon. So sad to have to live with that void.
Spoiler alert...
David Crowley Grey State
That kid has the sweetest smile I have ever seen
My heart is broken.
@Remington Black 🤣 you animal
Such a sweet comment
It’s a heartbreaking case.
I know so sad, if terri did this crime she has no.peace, .
I'm from Oregon. Terri tried changing her name to claire in the same county I reside in. Terri will always be the number 1 suspect, in my opinion.
look at her at the press conference when they are all together, wearing the t-shirts.....no tears...just fake emotion
And putting Gn her head on bio mom was so manipulative and fake
So basically she walked him into school, set up his project, took photos for an alibi, immediately took him back out because he had to go to his "dr.'s appointment" , scooped her friend and ...well...yeah
The police have exonerating evidence that they have never released to the public. I believe she is innocent. Someone on reddit did a deep dive in depth analysis on the whole case and hD a very convincing argument. There was no time for her to hurt him and dispose of his body. The cops tracked her phone and every move. They tried over and over to prove it was her and failed. They know it wasn't her. He would have been found. Terry raised Kyron from an infant. He wasn't some random step kid. She had NO MOTIVE either.
Think of Leticia Stauch. The way she commited that crime. This would have ended up the same way.
Terry didnt try to trick phone gps or leave it at home. I could go on and on
@@pinkpugginz also believe she's innocent, not the best human being but have watched allot of documentaries of this and is kind of impossible for her to have killed him and disapeared the body.
@@pinkpugginz ITA. There's a rush to judgment because people want *someone* to pay. But the time line doesn't add up to her doing it. The police let people believe she's under suspicion because they effed up.
pinkpugginz What about Terri telling the teacher he had a Dr's appt that day when he actually DID NOT?? Why'd she set that lie up?? To allay suspicion in the morning (so that teacher0s would not be alarmed that he was gone all of a sudden!!)
Did you conveniently forget that Terri talked to at least one other person about HATING Kyron??
She blamed him for her own son being kicked out by Kain.....and come on, just because she "helped raise him" that doesn't mean shit!!! It's more often than not someone close to a murder victim who kills them!!
and on and on. I think within the next decade something will happen to give the investigators enough evidence to charge the crazy bitch
@@pinkpugginz Yeah, I don't think she did it either. I do wonder who did though, as he loved school and was excited about his science project, he'd not leave willingly.
My heart goes out to Kyrons mom. My god to just never see your child again. I have a 15 month old and the thought of anything like this legit kills me.
You can only do so much, lots of sicko’s out there that could take your 15 month old
As a father of a 3 year old baby girl, my baby going missing/ kidnapped is my worst fear over. I saw a post on Facebook about a billboard “I promise I will find you. I will never stop, love momma” that broke me I couldn’t imagine what the mother is going through.
3 credible witnesses saw Terri leave the school with Kyron that day, but she still hasn’t been charged?!?!?!?!
Yep. And why did the author call that "circumstantial evidence" when it's eyewitness testimony?
@@bonorbitz Probably because eyewitness testimony is notoriously inaccurate. The memory tends to make up and insert details that weren’t actually there. I don’t know for sure though.
I agree. ESPECIALLY because the teacher marked him absent because he never attended the beginning of class.
Innocent people have been charged and imprisoned when courts used to base decisions on eyewitness testimony. There have been cases where witnesses claim to have seen victims even though later it turns out they were already dead, so what did those people see? the mind is unreliable. It's enough for people to believe someone is guilty and your mind will find a way to relate everything to prove they're guilty, even if they're not. All of these people in the comments screaming that they KNOW she killed him are proof of how flawed the human mind is. We don't know anything. She might be at fault, she might not be, depending on how we interpret the facts. For example, if Kyron really did have seizures that made him disoriented, he could've wandered off and been taken. Also, that's a big assumption that when you kill someone, especially a child, your best friend will be just as sick minded as you and just jump to help you cover it up and put their own ass on the line for you like that - that to me sounds unlikely and illogical. Also, what sort of a criminal mastermind Terri has to be that she managed to pull off a perfect crime and hide a body in less than an hour? Those are just some of the questions I have that shows to me we can't be sure 100% that she did it. That's why evidence is important and that's why she can't get charged, it would just be a waste of time and if she was guilty, that would let her get away with it. Let's just wait for this case to get solved some day.
@@bonorbitz It's called circumstantial evidence because it points to her potentially being the only person in contact with him, who would've had the access needed to kill him. It's not *direct* evidence of her killing him--direct evidence would be an eyewitness who saw her kill him, or a videotape of her killing him. Any evidence short of direct evidence is considered circumstantial evidence.
Poor little guy. I hope he's found. How can you hate a seven-year-old? Sure, they can be annoying but to actually hate a child? She seems like narcissistic beyotch to me.
Zero_BS_Tolerance she sounds like a paranoid psychopath, she probably imagined the little boy talking about her, imagined him with far more power than he had. Basically she’s nuts and the little boy took the brunt of her insanity.
At seven years old kids are so precious! This is awful all around.
That's what I have a hard timr understanding. Seven year olds can be very annoying, but to *hate* them? For a prolonged period?
Remember, it happens a lot. Some step-parents can absolutely loath children from the previous marriage just because they're not their own. It's some bizarre narssistic selfish thinking probably fuelled by jealousy. A lot of abuse and murder of children happens because of it... It's absolutely disgusting 🥺
As its been abt 10 years, if he really was in Forest Park in 2010 the animals wouldve scattered his bones by now... we would be lucky to find anything but its such a large forest its like finding a needle in a needlestack
What made me cringe was seeing Terri's arm wrapped around Kyron's mum.
I felt nauseous seeing that and the way she leaned in to say something to her.
MONSTER!!!
ugh
Did you catch Desiree's body language on that ?? It was so obviously fake on Terri's part
Oh I was just going to post that very thing! It made me sick when Terri leaned her head on kyrons moms shoulder. She looked so guilty in doing that and it was written all over her face!
It seems strange to me that two grown women would "not like Kyron." He was a 7-year old boy! What could he have done to deserve a hit?!
Exactly. He was a CHILD. How in the hell do you dislike a 7 year old like that as a grown adult?
For real. I've met kids that can be a little rude or even obnoxious, but how warped do you have to be to think about murdering them?
he is(was?) such a little cutie pie... what's not to love😥
There is no evidence that they didn’t like him. None. Desiree made it up.
The only mystery is how Terri has gotten away with it for so long.
Ikr how?
This little boy needs to be brought home where ever he may be...
Tick Tock TERRi… WHERE IS KYRON??!!
she’s the best suspect but still how do you bury a body in 90 minutes?
@@thixiemattel pre dug hole
Terri is guilty. It's plain as day. Like Kyron's mum said, "I can tell you what I had to eat that day but she can't remember what she did?"
I couldn't tell you what I ate this morning let alone what I did yesterday. At least not on the first try. But then again mTBI/PTSD is a hell of a mind sweeper.
I agree with you. For when something tragic or terribly scary happens, no doubt you remember every detail. It's the happy times, the normal everyday things that are usually forgot, sadly. My heart hurts for that mother.
Yeah what makes it more suspicious is that she never cooperated with the police
@@JamesFromTexas you would remember if your son dissapeared that same day
The issue is this, and people really need to learn that:
The police are not your friend, they are not your friend when you are guilty and they are not your friend when you are innocent.. they are your friend when you are the victim of a crime.
Police sole purpose is to give the DA or as in Sweden "Åklagaren" enough evidence to close the case.
There are numerous cases where exonorating evidence are not presented for the reason of a conviction.. and it's absolutley unacceptable.
I dont know if she is innocent or not.. The only thing I know is at the moment, as an innocent the coppers begin to show interest in me, I would cease all cooperation.
Not becuase i'm guilty but because I don't want to serve anything that in hindsight could be scewed to pin me for something I had not done.
Just look at the case with the cop that they claimed murder his whole family, incorrect conviction. He was a cop and cooperated. David Camm is his name
Just go make a google search "Wrongful conviction in the US".
And please do remember.. that those are only the ones we know about :)
We have had the same issue in Sweden on a numerous occations, with total misshaps and misscarriages of justice.
The police find someone that could've done it and then they close in.. It's their job.
The eyewitness testimonies of three people seeing Kyron leave with Terri should of had a lot more impact on the case. This case seemed mismanaged from the beginning. They tried way too hard to pin her for hiring a hitman instead of trying to collect evidence that she abducted her step son. If she didn't get tipped off they might of been able to collect evidence from her conversations with her friend/possible accomplice.
The bus driver said at the beginning that he didn't get off the bus. Then for a book he comes up to say he saw her with him. Gee, did he get paid?
Those are likely invented "memories" told to the lady writing the book. Note the cops didn't seem to have that information at the outset. That's likely because those people didn't see what they are saying they did. I'm not saying the stepmom didn't leave with the kid; it's most likely she did, given the circumstance. What I am saying is that those people have likely invented memories over time, or warped their memories of events, to suit what the lady writing the book was asking them. Any FBI agent will tell you that human beings are the worst possible witnesses. We warp our memories to suit our own importance to a story, or to fit a narrative some important person (such as an author or celebrity or lawyer) is feeding us. Yes, there are incompetent police forces around, but one that has actual witnesses that saw the perp leaving with the victim and don't arrest that person right away would be exceedingly rare. They didn't because those people did not come forward to them at the time, but to the author of the book, years later. They are simply not credible.
@@jeremysmetana8583 She said it was in the initial police reports. That's not people remembering something years later, that's police not following clear leads or doing their job. Everything about this case points to the stepmother. She dumped his body in the water off that island. She set the whole damned thing up with the doctor's appointment. If it had been the stepfather or father who was last person seen with the kid he would have been arrested and charged immediately.
In just about every true crime case I've ever listened to and researched, police almost always fudge it all up. Either due to incompetence, or worse, on purpose.
@@jeremysmetana8583 the police cannot just arrest someone solely based off of a witness statement. They have to have to have other corroborating evidence in order to build a solid case. Also you are wrong about these witnesses coming forward later. He clearly said that those witness statements came in early on in the case, and that they were brought to light again when the author researched this case for her book.
I've seen a lot of cases that are decades old being solved lately. I'm hoping and praying that his is solved soon too. My heart hurts for him, his mother, father, and step-father. My son is a little older than him and idk what I'd do if he were to go missing 💔 may that family, and Kyron, be given justice soon.
I appreciate how this guy clearly doesn't give a single crap about being demonitized.
Most true crime is demonitized that's why they set up patreons and need sponsors as I know alot of research goes into each video, Mike & Bailey are my favourites 🙏❤
@@AmyJ739 True, but afaik Mike doesn't have a Patreon account (if he does, point me in the right direction). He does do sponsorships from time to time, but it's incredible how he doesn't rely on them and still makes awesome videos. I respect the hell out of Mike.
In contrast, Top 5 Unknowns covers a lot of true crime cases and they go out of their way to carefully write their script to avoid demonetization (example: the victim "lost her life" vs "was murdered"). They upload recycled, poorly researched videos every day with ads inserted every 2 minutes. Their content is horrible and makes me appreciate That Chapter so much more.
@@gingerpunk2129 he does check out his description on this video 👍😁
@@AmyJ739 Oh cool, thank you!
UA-cam didn't have money at the beginning. People post videos to inform our simply to entertain. Not everyone is about greed.
I went to school with his cousin and we reconnected years after we graduated. The whole family has always suspected the stepmom did something to him. Sad.
Except Kaine and the LE.
@@pamelamorris3148 Kaine 100% KNOWS TERRi is responsible for WHATEVER happened to Kyron.
yeah me too i went to school with his mum and she benched me
That mother killed him with the old “he has a doctors appointment” and she took those photos and uploaded them to Facebook intentionally. Too suspicious
Agreed. This was premeditated murder.
Step mother
I agree. she must have left with him before he supposedly went into math class but wouldn't someone or s camera catch this?
@@Dec15baby og mothers can do the same...,
Uploading pictures to Facebook is suspicious? That’s generally what any parent would do lol
Terri totally did it, and then went on to commit more crimes & looks more crazed and disturbed, now, than ever. She’s living with a guilty conscience & got away with murder. I’m praying she is brought to justice! Poor little Kyron 💔
I believe she did it, but I doubt she has a guilty conscience. Some people don't even know what that means because they have never experienced it. They have no empathy for anyone but themselves.
And you base this on what, exactly? What other crimes do you allege that she committed.
She’s innocent as of now 10YEARS after. So we’re u getting ur info from
@@LaymanGaminsure, okay. 😂
I can't imagine being the parent of a missing child. Knowing your child is scared, hurt getting abused or who died alone and away from his family. And how crushing it is not knowing where he is or if he is dead or alive. My heart goes out to this boy and his family.
imagine that pain and being the parent that doesn’t give a shit about their kid, it’s really sad that there are parents out there who will go through the birth process with their baby and then ABSOLUTELY hate them and treat them like shit
@@PeytonMartell
Yes!!!! I would do anything to save my kids lives. I would sacrifice myself just to keep them safe. I don't get it. I can't imagine being that heartless to want to kill a kid just for the point of not wanting the kid around. That lady deserves all the evil that's coming her way. Karma is a bitch I just wish I could see what she has in store for that bitch.
I had a stepmom that didn’t like me. I was always grounded till my dad caught her in a lie about something went missing in the house and blamed me. It was my dad who moved it and as soon as he got home he found out. I didn’t do anything to get her hate I was only 11. But she never apologized to me personally only to my dad.
I have one of those stepmothers aswell. Mine used to beat and belittle me as much and as crude as she could. I haven't spoken to her in years and unfortunately the relationship between my dad and I suffer under it.
Well I'm sorry that happened to you. Dang witch.
Thank you all. I am so sorry to hear about yours as well Stormi_Za. My dad and I are very close from it and after he made sure I was happy with who he wanted as a partner.
People are way too quick to bring people around their children.
I had a pretty bitchy step mom too, but Im almost thankful for her (well, after over 30 years); I wouldnt be me without her. I learned heaps from that experience, things I wouldnt have learned anywhere else. You will get stronger and smarter, life will get better. And just because your step parent didnt like you, it doesnt mean your not likable, stupid, liar, whatever. Trust me. The problem was always in them, not you. Some people are so full of venom, it spills over even the most innocent and vulnerable. And now we all know what *not* to do, if we ever end up being step parents! So keep going strong and be safe, my friends :)
Ps. I have pretty amazing step dad, he has been around since I was 4. I think of him as my second dad. He has made my life way better, not worse. Hes a keeper, they arent all monsters :)
Thank you for covering Kyron, I’m an Oregonian originally, and my heart breaks for his mom and dad. Terri needs to be arrested and charged, the family needs to lay that baby to rest.
No one else, came in and took him out of the school. We all know who did, and she’s evil.
The FBI and at least one professional profiler don't know anything of the kind, and neither do you.
There was a case in KY that's similar to this one, where a stepmother and her best friend killed her stepson. She didn't want her husband's affection split between his son from a previous marriage and her daughter, so they picked him up from school, strangled him in the car, then dumped his body.
I lived in Ky then and Oregon now, and have always believed Terri and her best friend did the exact same thing, for the exact same reason.
@danibauer OMG thank you for posting this comment..I was sittting here trying to figure out why I remembered the stepmom and her friend being charged and convicted of his murder then I ran across your comment...So strange how similar the two cases are...And so sad.
What’s the name of this other case? I’d love to do some more research
@@therealsamsclub2325 Gosh I'm not sure. It's been about 20 years since it happened. I know they strangled him. The friend went in and checked the kid out from school. I think she was in a disguise. I don't remember if the stepmother was pregnant or had already had the baby. But I think she was preggers. You'd have to Google it.
@@DaniBauerTHEGoddess very very interesting, I’m definitely going to check to see if I can find it. Very scary though and terrifying that she was in disguise
10+ years after Kyron's disappearance we really need that hiker or dog walker now so the family can get closure.
Poor lil chap was so proud and excited that day 😢 Heartbreaking
Hikers and dog walkers are the true hero's in missing person cases. And that poor old lady that came across bodies on 2 separate occasions because Stephen Port was leaving them there, should have the government pay for all the therapy she (and her dog) are ever going to need.
This case breaks my heart. His greatest fear was not finding his way home and he has been lost for 10 damn years! I believe the step mother had Kyron believing he had a doc appointment that day. They went set up his project. Did that bit then she told him she would take him and bring him back. He could leave his coat and bag because they wouldn't be long. She killed him and her friend having access to things like lime helped her put the body deep enough and covered enough that he won't be found. Most bodies are found because people don't take the time to bury it properly. If you have the tools and the time a body simply won't be found. The best friend and muscles the step mom could have prepared a grave prior for that matter. I hope that woman sees Kyron ever time she closed her eyes.
Did you mean "she had access to lime" or "time" because I'm wondering how lime helps you bury a body and keep it covered. Time makes more sense in context but maybe there's something I don't know about lime...? Also I think your theory of events makes a lot of sense.
@@natb9919 people cover bodies with lime to cut down on the smell and I think it may speed up decomposition. If she dug a proper grave and dumped lime on top he wouldn't be found
@@kimberlymarino7344 oh wow you learn something new everyday! Thanks for clarifying.
@@natb9919 my pleasure.
If I were his mother and had no other children I would... "take" Terri and pry the answers out of her. Physically. Then she could disappear like my son did. If she didn't talk then maybe I would accept the years in jail for ... hurting someone, and let her live but... man Terri is evil. Did you see her smile THREE times in the press conference, DUPERS' DELIGHT
I was in the 3rd grade in Beaverton, Oregon the year he went missing. I remember my school and every car had his face plastered on it. We held an assembly to discuss safety and his disappearance. My school started a much more strict attendance/pick up/drop off routine. It weighed heavy on my whole 3rd grade class for the entire rest of the year. You did such a great job explaining his story 🥲
*Finds out his wife tried to have him killed*
Kaine Horman: "Must have been that postpartum depression!"
*Or maybe she just hated you with an incandescent passion*
Postpartum is real, it could be both hate and postpartum.
C C C COMBO!
@@nickbuis3307 Yeah, postpartum depression is very real, and it is a rough thing for mothers to deal with, but it's often used as a reason to justify sh*t like this. I would imagine that millions of women suffer from it, but they're not all running around, killing people they "love". The ones that do are psychos and they blame it on the postpartum depression as a way to justify their disgusting actions. They just want a bit of sympathy, so that's what they go with.
@Jason M I have no idea what she had, I'm just talking about it in general. You see it everytime some psycho piece of crap kills their children. They just use it as a scape goat..
If it she was BPD, then that's definitely not an excuse either..There are some mental illnesses that can drive someone to murder, but BPD isn't one of them.
@Jason M All of those dang steroids she was shooting into her body may have something to with it..Nah, not for real, but that trick is definitely using some roids. That ol' blocky, caveman looking head is a dead giveaway, lol
This case has always haunted me. I feel like the Stepmother got away with murder. I will never forget Kyron💔
Yeah, it’s always stuck with me too. He was so afraid of getting lost in the woods and never getting home. He’s probably in those woods. Even if he was dumped there when he was already dead, he’s still lost and hasn’t been taken home. There are some cases that really strike a nerve. In primary school I knew a girl who disappeared, she was found dead about a month later, in a field, strangled with her own underwear. I only spent a little time with her because she was a friend of a friend, but at sleepovers she was always scared she’d “disappear”. We were 10 when she went missing. Her murder has never been officially solved, and it haunts me. So does this case, and the boy in the box, and Tyler Stice
Same I think about him often ❤️😞
What an unsatisfying ending, must be horrible for the parents to never get any closure.
it's on-going, so maybe she'll fess up sooner or later.
@@ashkebora7262 If you're referring to "Terri" I doubt she'd admit to anything by this point, it's been just over 10 years now and no body or even a trace have even come up from poor Kyron.
Ikr and what is even worse, they know Terry did it but they can not prove it. I hope she will pay for what she had done to that little, innocent boy.
What's worst is that the criminal is still walking freely and with a clear conscious. I hate people like this who don't feel a thing.
@@ashkebora7262 dount it but maybe a death bed confession. She moved, tried changing her name, wouldn't cooperate etc. She seems pure evil and just wanted to put this behind her.
Hearing he was scared of not finding his way home and you ending with the words one day you hope he will, hit me right in the feels. Poor little man. I hope he gets found and taken home to his family that love him ❤️
Terri hugging Kyron’s mom as his stepdad is speaking at the press conference... disgusting.
Even if I knew nothing about the case, that would still look wrong. There was something very readable in how she was working to look like she's comforting, rather than genuinely doing it.
I thought that hugging/leaning into the mom was a bit awkward.. mom didn’t exactly hug back
Yeah Desiree said she actually pulled away because she just knew Terri did something to him
That was weird - I spotted that
She knows where Kyron is & what happened to him. That sweet face!💔💔💔
This case is extremely upsetting...
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“Pacifically from the specific northwest” 😂😂
What’s the officer problem?
eugenic eugene Oregon oof I’m gonna use that one
Gus Fring nice name
He is my people!
I can't believe Terry said a man in a WHITE TRUCK was at a store and asked her where's the nearest school. So he just happened to drive a white truck and happened to ask the step mom of the child he ended taking? No. What a liar
I think she told the teachers and him he had a dr appointment. That’s why he left with her expecting to come back to school afterwards. The friend is involved.
"One of his fears was being unable to find his way home and well, hopefully one day he will." That really hit me hard, such a tragic case that could have been avoided :(
Ok ? How does a small child know beforehand and then "avoid" getting killed by a step parent ?
respdoc no one is putting any responsibility on the child, I genuinely don’t know where you’re reading that from. the adults around him at the school and his father should have been more careful.
This channel is singlehandedly getting me through quarantine, it feels like. So glad I discovered it! Thank you for the content!
Have to agree look forward to new vids every Tues and Friday and always fun watching older vids again before bed.
Right??
I only found this channel a couple months back and i'm already up to date!
As quarantine is so hard.. Not even people in prison cry so much.
im sorry but who asked?
Sounds like a really good mother who leaves her child who has an ear infection that is bad enough to need medication in child care centre whilst she indulges in the gym. I would be suspicious right away.
That hit me HARD when I heard it!! I was thinking she's a selfish b**** as well as a psychopath
Right? That jumped right out at me. Yuck.
All bacterial ear infections need medication a/k/a antibiotics. Once the antibiotics hit along with some Tylenol, they're much more comfortable and can resume normal activities. Heck, even some kids aren't that phased by ear infections. It's not suspicious to me.
@@sarahreid9557your reading comprehension is pretty terrible
Also bad enough that she had to drive her around on back-country roads for 90 minutes to soothe her, but then drops her off at cild care!
As she stands there with her arm around the mother attempting to look upset (and failing to do so) holding *bone dry* tissues for the invisible tears shes shedding 😒
I immediately noticed that she didn't seem to be grieving, but looking at the others to pick up cues as to when to dry dab those tears.
@@heatherallingham7120 MONSTER!!!
This episode taught me never to commit murder or Mike will read logs of your Sext for half a million people.
Lmao tru.. 😂 🤦♀️
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If Kyrin was seen leaving with Teri, she’s obviously lying. I don’t understand why she’s not in prison for the rest of her nutty, miserable life.
I dunno. I wouldn't expect her to get very far with her eyes closed -- especially if she was driving a car. Is there anything known about how she left the school?
The reason she's not in prison is that prevailing opinion doesn't automatically equate to truth. It is possible for witnesses to be wrong.
Because the police have said over and over that all evidence pointed to three or more teachers said she left without Kyron, but Kyron never went to his homeroom.
Nice ableism, pal.
There were teaxchers and the secratery that saw her leaving alone with the baby
Soon…tick Tock TERRi!!!
Kinda surprised she was described as an unlikely suspect - step-parents are common abusers and worse of step-kids.
Except there is no evidence that she abused Kyron. She helped raise him from infancy.
You said a mouthful!
Its pretty clear who did it.. makes me shudder, considering I'm a single Father. You cant trust anyone with your children. I dont get how people can let things like this happen..
This was exactly why I was a single mom for as long as I was! This poor Mom and Dad...
@@red2846 you made the right decision. It's just not worth it, wish more parents were this aware.
This is why I have been a single mom since my divorce over ten years ago.
I refuse to date anyone until my son is older....
It was clearly the Step-Mom. Never rely on the person you got cheated with. Real mother should had focus on him or switch babysitters after the surgery. Man it hurts. I hope justice comes quickly. I mean Mike even said Terri relationship with the kid wasn't good so why were they still together?
I’ve become a big fan of this channel. Awesome content
Same here
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I agree!!!! I just started watching this channel earlier this past week. Mike and his maroon Henley. I'm really enjoying these try crimes. I just find this stuff interesting.
Aye. I was binging on his vids startijg last night
I just hope, that Kyron did not suffer & that he has peace, wherever he may be & that he is found to give his family some closure. 💜 Bless them all. 💜
My heart breaks for him & his biological mom. This is unbelievable. I hope they solve his case ASAP. Rip
he rode my school bus, we didn’t realize he was missing until we got to his bus stop and realized he wasn’t even on the bus
Wait actually? Like you're serious
@@StamesJevens yeah I didn’t really talk to him much but it was a tiny school, only about 250 kids k-8th grade so you kinda knew everyone
@@MooCabot so you think terri did it too?
@@StamesJevens definitely, my mom was one of the people who brought her food and stuff after he went missing cause she didn’t want to leave her house, and my mom said she never really seemed “sad” like a mother should be
Do you remember seeing kyron that day ?
Need to think twice before getting remarried when u have children, too many children getting killed by step parents, its frightening., poor little boy 😢😢
I won the lottery. My husband raised my daughter from my first marrisge. He loved he just as much as our son
Too many children being killed by parents. It's not always easy to know someone has it in them. But I agree. Be VERY careful who you bring into your kids life and trust with their safety!
leila exactly think twice before having too many kids!! Especially too young!!! Wait few extra years!
People need to think twice before assuming the stepmother is guilty despite the exonerating evidence. There is a reason the police never named her as a suspect and that's because there was exactly no evidence of her guilt and a great deal of evidence supporting her innocence. Mob mentality has convicted her despite the facts and it's pretty gross to watch.
"Pacifically from the Specific Northwest"
Oh my gooooooood
Goodness, I thought that's what he said 🙊🤩
That sounds good, especially when you’re from there
That was too funny I lol too hard
i'm from portland and there are STILL missing posters for kyron up to this day, i saw one downtown just a couple months ago. i'm only a few years older than him and i remember at the time all of our parents got really paranoid and strict about us going out on our own, even to the school bus etc. i don't think anyone who's from here DOESN'T know about this case, it's so infamous
Disney got it right when they say "Evil Stepmother".
He was only 7 yrs old and trusted her. This story pulls the heart strings. May Kyron's memory be eternal.