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I will point out in earlier editions of D&D, Druids Could turn into Owlbears. The fact they can't anymore is weirder to me tbh.
One thing I noticed is the at they reused 3-5 clips in a 3 minute trailer, yikes
They already have two or three movies out. One was amazing, two dropped the ball entirely, can't remember if there was a three or not.
Check out the red wizards of thay, those are the villans
"Army of undead liches" My brother-in-arms those are the Red Wizards of Thay and they are a literal army of Liches who control their own whole-ass COUNTRY in Faerun! They even got the outfits spot-on to how they're described in multiple books.
This movie has the potential to be really good, really bad, or so bad it's good. At the very least, the mimic looks _great._
they got the creatures right and the CGI wasnt noticeably bad so it looks like an actual effort was put into this so I dont think its going to be in the really bad category. Id say its floor is forgettable which even if thats the case its a massive improvement from the last attempt at a D&D movie
So it simultaneously has a 67% chance to be good and a 67% chance to be bad, but only has a 33% chance to simultaneously be good and bad if that makes sense which it doesn’t.
@@dragoknight589 So....you're calculating with 167% chances?
The problem I have with this trailer is that they showed so many monsters, it feels like we’ve seen most of them. I really hope we’ve only seen half because I don’t want to know all the monsters.
@@user-qc1yv6ws5k fair point. No idea what the plot is just cool cgi and a hint of woke politics. Could be everything worth seeing is in the trailer.
Cautiously optimistic for this movie. On one hand there was the 2000 movie, on the other hand this trailer nailed the awkwardness of real game tables. This has potential, but can get royally screwed over
i just hope its one or the other and not boring.
Remember, honor amongst thieves is a line said several times in the original movie.
my thoughts exactly, im keeping my hopes low, and hopefully they don't mess up big time
Has potential, can get royally screwed over. So basically every D&D campaign
Afraid I'm not. When they showed the barbarian as a trash talking typical strong woman... then the badass druid gal... and both of them ganging up to demean the leading man... That is so typical of a modern movie that is more concerned with checking boxes than telling a real story. Don't get me wrong, you can absolutely have those characters. But for the love of the gods... stop including the same woke formula from every marvel movie in the past 5 years. The goofy, dumb leading man, the carefully diverse cast, the overwhelming number of trash talking strong woman types. It's so old it hurts.
It looks to be set in Faerûn, I got strong Icewind Dale vibes from the winter scene.
If it is in Faerûn, and they're not just shadow clones, those could be the red wizard of Thay, who are traditionally bald headed, tattoo'd, and ruled by a lich.
The city shots are of Neverwinter and the winter scenes are in fact Icewind Dale, that's where the Druid will get the Snowy Owlbear form
its definatly faerun. Chris Pines character wears a harpers pin.
YOOOOO RED WIZZY GET THE GLIZZIES
They were in the goddamn Undermountain (or shadowfell) I'm pretty sure it's Faerun
@@zachrabaznaz7687 I'm pretty sure they might visit Menzobarrenzan
From a Polygon article that came out yesterday: "When asked about cameos from the cast of popular D&D live-play shows like Critical Role, Dimension 20, or The Adventure Zone, the panel said that there will be “at least one” cameo from a “well-known” D&D personality but wouldn’t say more."
Jeff. Goldblum.
Suddenly there is this goliath that is going inn to inn drinking. Fighting and a half elf guy in black clothes is dragging his ass out of his problem that he made and running away from the guards every time
Also people speaking of a fluffy friendly brown bear walking in the city that waves back if you say hello to him
Women speak of a halfling bard that is banging anyone . And he's packing some big sausage
There's a guy who can blast thunder sounds of a weird stick and peaple get killed by that
Some say a little girl cleric beat the living shit out of the blacksmith
And we're are my coins by the gods there's theafs in the city naw
I think it would be joe manganiello
Oh, God. 😑
Joe Manganiello
The wizards are likely the red wizards of Thay given their bald heads, deathly demeanor, and red robes. They will likely go to the Underdark as we see a dwarven dungeon and the red dragon is clearly Themberchaud (due to the weight), the dragon who lives in the duergar city of Gracklstug.
So the red clad lich we saw was most likely Szass Tam... perhaps he was summoning Eltab or some other demon with that horn? Or creating a dracolich? I'm intriqued.
Themberchaud, a chonk name for a chonk dragon.
100% agree
Could it be possible that lich was Velsharoom before ascending? Or that they're summoning Velsharoom? This area is kinda far from my knowledge so I may be very wrong here
You need a channel
I really love how the black dragon actually looks like how 5e depicts black dragons. Just the little detail of the two horns and the collapsed face. Makes me happy to see such minor details that only people who know would notice
The acid animation leaves a lot to be desired, but at least yoou can tell it's acid. Something for the nerds to love.
The gold dragon statue is also accurate.
@@aaronsan6488 bro, it looks sick, what are you talking about?
@@Vynzmo beauty is in the ye of the Beholder I suppose. Too bad one isn't in this movie, that would be awesome.
@@Vynzmo It didn't seem to do a lot of damage to anyone, and the dragon could spit it 3 times quickly in a row. Some liberties there.
I feel like D&D has plenty of source material to have a shared Cinematic Universe, and honestly I would watch probably all of the films.
Forgotten realms, ebberon, spell jammer, planar portals.
Like..... the greater DnD lore of multiple realms/material planes fits perfectly into a cinematic universe. Not just fan favorite characters, but events, and all manner of iconic strictly DnD stuff. I cant even begin to imagine the depth they could take it with a fully realized DnD CM.
And you want to know the best fucking part?
EVERY PLAYER'S CHARACTER IN EVERY HOMEBREW OR CAMPAIGN OR WHAF NOT WOULD BE FOUNDATIONALLY CANON!
Try telling a bunch of Marvel Fanbois that your OC Avenger fought in Endgame in the last scene and see how they take that.
But my Paladin Naga-Ed-Der from Anagnorsis?
Or my Mystic Theuge Waywocket from the Kingdom in the Mists?
They LITERALLY exist in the greater cosmology of all DnD. Gate is the most fucking amazing spell ever. It can literally take Player Characters from their homebrew setting to Neverwinter, or Baulder's Gate, or where ever. So long as you know those places exist.
This trailer looks like I'm glimpsing into a world I've literally been a part of for decades. And there is something very amazing about that.
Fuck. Yes.
So, this movie is going to be based in Forgotten Realms. The city in the opening sequence is Neverwinter and it shows them travelling to both Icewind Dale as well as Menzoberranzan. It's going to be an awesome movie!
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo Naga-Ed-Der?
@@llewelynshingler2173 Egyptian themed dwarf named after a real world ancient necropolis in Egypt. A pivotal character for me.
@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo May the memories of that tale never fade.
I immediately thought of the whole druids can’t turn into owlbears thing when I saw the trailer too 😂. However they don’t say she wildshaped in the movie, she could have polymorphed into it
Yes, but the spell has a duration and you have to be equal challenge rating for the transformation... Also, only allows the transformation to be a beast transformation, not a monstrosity... It can be Shapeshifting or Wildshifting, since owlbears in 5e came from the Feywild
So, clearly you only know 5E and not DND in general. Every other version of druid could wildshape into an owlbear.
Magic item?
Yep, she's either a lv17 Godess among them or this movie will tell the tale of a high level party.
Polymorph in 5e wouldn't work either
I love that they avoided the classic red fire-breathing dragon and went for the acid with the black dragon. Lets mainstream viewers know that the world has a lot more to offer than standard fantasy
I hope they will add the "this lovable npc was a [insert fitting metallic dragon type]
All along" in a future dnd movie
A chromatic or gem might be interesting aswell
Clearly, the DM for this campaign ruled that the word "beast" in the Wild Shape description referred to the colloquial meaning of the term rather than the stat block classification.
Rule of cool is best rule
Could be she used Shape Change and not wild shape.
@@PrimordialReaper if these guys are at level 17 or above while getting styled on by a displacer beast then they must have rolled some shit stats
@@phrog2125 I mean, it is possible, or maybe it's just a nat 1 night.
There was also a shifter prestige class in 3.0 that let druids use greater wild shape to turn into forms other than beasts(beast used to be animal in 3.0) including owlbears. That got turned into Master of Many Forms in 3.5 and it lost the ability to turn into magical beasts but they added the functionality for all druids as a epic level feat.
It looks a 5e adventure in progress. Exactly what I thought it would be and exactly what I wanted. I'm a grognard who prefers the olde ways, but I also want younger people to play the game. This is the kind of marketing that will do that. Zeppelin always makes a thing better.
The red dragon at the end is Themberchaud, who is comically overfed by Duregaur as payment for keeping their forges warm, so he's a chonker
Yisss :3
I think it is a Lich and the Red Wizards of Thay for the group shot. In the shots where the Bard is in the blue cloak he's wearing a Harper's pin on his cloak, so I'm pretty sure this is the Forgotten realms.
This ^^
AND if that Lich is from Thay he most likely Tsas Tam!
Going to say Red wizards
The antagonist doesnt look like a lich at all. U hardly need a lich as a villain, considering how powerful wizards r, especially the Reds
Takes place along the Sword Coast
won't lie when they said "we stole something for the wrong person" I was excitedly waiting for xanethar to appear from the shadows with a big eyeball glowing first as his eye opens lol
Since this seems to take place in faerûn im just hoping we get to se Xanathar or at the veary least Ott getting a new goldfish on the background
Probably saving that for the movie's twist.
@@QuintusUndead Imagine this becoming like a series, they can treat each movie like a new campaign/adventure in the same world which would hit home for D&D fans especially because one can be more light hearted then the next can be more dark and brooding followed by whatever they want next.
I would love to see all the iconic characters make appearances or references like books and stuff written by them and what not!
Ya, i was expecting a goldfish and not a horn
I’m glad they are creating a new bad guy, or are at least not slapping in Xenethar, Strahd or Tiamat.
I don't mind the gelatinous cube scene. I've had separate DMs have "trained" cubes in cities that cleaned up sewers and streets. And they dissolve things slowly. So the slum dwellers use it as a quick shower. Walk in and walk out.
Yeah, but if you look closely, there appears to be a skeleton in the process of being eaten inside the cube, so it's most certainly not trained. They also look to be in some sort of arena/colosseum, so my guess is they're fighting the displacer beast, and the cube is an "environmental hazard" of sorts.
@@kedolan4992 Cleans up the arena. Probably someone who died there last week. Takes a while to digest/kill you.
To be fair, most DnD sessions are equal parts funny and serious. So I can see the style they are going for fitting quite well.
This was said on Twitter and I think it might be correct. Those red Wizards might be red wizards of Thay from forgotten realms. Another person pointed out that one of the coins had a symbol of waterdeep on it. Might take place in Faerûn or Waterdeep or they might go all over. Looks great nonetheless 👌
faerûn is the continent where waterdeep is, but the city in the trailer is neverwinter, the first shot shows a very distinct never castle, and there are neverwinter emblem banners in a few shots
@@awesomedonut8228 well played, between the coins and Neverwinter it seems like it's going to be a romp through the Sword Coast
@@donniehoffman4738 they’ll also go through icewind dale, apparently, and the underdark, this is exciting, even if they movie isn’t a conventionally good movie, i’d still have a good time sitting there pointing at things i recognize, and we know it’ll be fairly accurate since they consulted chris perkins when developing the movie
Yes, is it set in the Forgotten Realms.
@@awesomedonut8228 it shows both. DnD just posted a UA-cam video about it. They don't confirm Szass Tamm, but who else is a noseless red wizards?
Audience: "hey, Chris? What is your characters speciality and role in this movie?"
Chris: "name recognition."
Sooo bard then.
@@DuoSanguis i was gonna say, that’s kinda quintessential barf
If (when) they make their cinematic universe, I really hope that they have different main characters in each movie.
Even more meta would be to have the same actors play different characters but I don't think that concept would go over well with non-players.
What if the actors play different characters and classes in different settings? *grins* Michelle Rodriguez as an artificer 'Magitech mechanic' in Ebberon, anyone?
I'd love a Mad Max style Dark Sun film.
@@donovandownes9341 oh hell yeah that would be friggen badass
I don't mind if they keep in at least a joke or three that is just there. The bard always has a subtly suggestive name (the bard's name is Edgin), that planing scene, maybe even, dive into hazards to take less damage, and something where it's obvious the DM said, screw it rule of cool/fun like the Owlbear or the sword-dagger thing.
I like the idea of each movie having a different party, and maybe they bump into each other now and then.
For those like me relatively new to D&D I think this will be great. For long time hard core players I hope they don't fall in to the trap of over analysing if it fits all mechanics and rules. I'm mean I'm sure there are loads of DMs our there who have house rules about turning in to owlbears. 👍
I've had a huge love for D&D. Good or bad, the movie is just going to be fun to watch or fun to rip a part either way I'm just going to enjoy it.
A few things! One! Look up Red Wizards of Thay! Number 2 - They said that the movie would introduce some new subclass options and features- which might include a Magic Beast Druid? Opening up a druid to shifting into monsters! Third- Silver dragons have the head frill- that dragon is the statue from the start of the actual trailer so you can see it is clearly a Gold Dragon statue- Slow spell is not an AOE it's a multi-target within an area- you choose the targets in the area that are slowed. You can find all their classes in the video introducing the cast. Bard, Barbarian, Paladin, Sorcerer, Druid, and HG is indeed- a Rogue. Regardless- great video glad to se you got something out so quick!
I've also heard about the possible new subclass introductions. If it's anything like the 3e supplements we had for the 2000 Irons and Wayans film, we'll get online downloads to help promote the movie.
I was thinking all the same things you mention! However im not sure about the statue of the dragon, since it doesn't have the whiskers gold dragons do. (Still, it doesnt look 100% silver either)
@@heyyou193 it also has stone nostrils, so it's either an animated statue of a dragon, or a gold dragon that polymorphed into a statue and skilled the whiskers to not get easily vandalized.
It’s general facial shape reminds me more so of a copper dragon
Glad I'm not the only one who got that vibe from what looks to be the BBEG. My first thought was Red Wizards of Thay!
I need a scene where they completely break immersion and its just a group of people sitting around a table looking at each other as the DM looks through google for info on the aerodynamics of a chicken and then they keep playing.....
That would make an excellent post-credits scene.
As much as i'd love for them to do something like this as an end of movie thing, or even the 'character dies and is replaced by the same actor playing a different character' thing, I also don't want them to do it in this movie. It's obviously a risk to not do the end of the movie shot that shows that it was a group of friends playing the entire time, but i think that scene would have a much larger pay out if it were to come at the end of a second, or even third movie.
@@MrTea-cz4dr Disagree. I think a panning shot that eventually reveals the actors playing D&D, with minis and dice, would make for a perfect stinger. Not only does it acknowledge that this is based on a tabletop RPG but it would also free anyone that does a sequel from these characters.
Matt Mercer cameo as the DM.
@@Uldihaa Not really, they are trying to make a DnD cinematic universe. So I think they are going to manly use different settings that are canonized in the modules, and stick to the fantasy vibe. But it would be a funny post-credit scene where all the actors are actually playing around the table, and the main bad guy is actually the DM.
The "Passwall" thingy may simply be a portable hole where they keep all their loot/equipment. They are using it over grass and she doesn't look to simply be dropping down to an underground dungeon passage...
5:50 I think this is just a flaming shot from a catapult/trebuchet. And it looks like it has a bit of an arc to it, like it was coming from atop or behind the wall. If you look at the black dragon scene, a very similar thing happens when the dragon's breath hits the trebuchet and it explodes into fire and launches its stone. As for beholders and so on, they have to save something for the next movies.🔥
Agree with the catapult thing deffo
The red wizard who Misty Stepped was clearly a living woman, so I'm leaning heavily towards it indeed being related to Thay.
It definitely includes Thay. That lich has to be Szass Tam, Zulkir of Necromancy and commander of the Legion of Bone. Male red wizards normally shave their heads, which is why there is a shot with multiple red-clad, bald casters.
I think this movie looks like a blast! Also, re: Druids and Owlbears: Owlbears used to be classified as beasts in previous editions, so while its may not be current, its not wrong.
She is turned into a horse then an owlbear. So probably using shapechange which does allow turning into an owlbear.
So she is 17th level then. Epic!!
There's also polymorph on the druid spell list... but I think she's a Rogue and the guy in yellow is a sorcerer. I originally thought wizard, but didn't see a book.
@@dontorres8037The classes are Bard(Pine), Barbarian (Rodriguez), Paladin(Page), Druid(Lillis), and Sorcerer(Smith). Also I'd bet anything that Justice Smith is a Wild Magic Sorcerer
@@tempestgaming1600 Ah... Thanks for clearing those points up for me
Early on in the trailer, we see a statue of a dragon in the town. I believe that the dragon that is possibly possibly silver or gold is actually the statue being animated by Animate Objects.
I have actually done this to a party in one of my home brew campaigns. I had a large gold-plated iron golem forged in the shape of a dragon act as a guard for the big bad wizard. It fooled the party and thinking if they could break the mind control on the faux dragon they would gain a powerful ally...
At 5:37 the spell she cast make me think of transport via plants, which lines up with her being a druid but the exit point doesn't have a plant so I don't know for sure.
I’m thinking it’s passwall, Land Druids get that
I’d love a series of high quality D&D movies. Though my hope is there would be completely different characters every (few) movie(s), maybe even played by the same actors but they never address why they’re completely different characters.
That'd be perfect
I really like that idea! 👍
damn that's actually a really neat idea, would be hard to sell the general audience on that but you can get a lot of eyes on the game with that move
I saw someone say this before, but I think it'd be absolutely HILARIOUS if a main character died, then next scene the same actor shows up playing a new character
Yeeeees!
I love how they decided to make Chris Pine, probably the best known actor, the bard a.k.a the pretty face!
I knew he would. He seems like a guy who would play a bard in a campaign
And I saw a Harper pin.
Definitly fitting for Chris Pine to be a Bard, but I also got a bit of a Mastermind Rogue multiclass feel to him. But maybe that's just me.
That was a good choice, but let's face it...Michelle Rodriguez as the badass barbarian is the absolute best casting choice they could have made.
@@ltspyder2177 I agree
I absolutely never engage when a creator says “Let me know what you think in the comments down below”.
Today I break that streak!
I think that this movie is going to absolutely beat ass, and I HOPE that it leads to your prediction of a D&D cinematic universe.
I’ve been DMing for 20 god damn years, and tbh this trailer somehow perfectly encapsulates is what I would imagine a “trailer for a campaign” would look like. Hell, I kinda hope that this movie takes a big risk and goes the LoTR approach and just... doesn’t try to fit too much into one movie, and trusts that there will be more movies coming to explore things!
Agreed if they played their cards right they could be playing against heavy hitters like the mcu and dceu
They definitely have the cast for it....Pine was front and center in reviving star trek. Rodriguez and Grant are well known.
I've played about 10 hrs of DnD and a few hundred into games closely based on it, BG1 2, NWNs, ICE wind Dale and many more.
My wife has never played and only recently read any fantasy or Sci fi, and yet we both want to see this movie.
A D&D world has easy access to an option I have long thought would be a good idea for a cinematic universe: The various films aren't linked as pieces of a larger story, but rather they just use a common setting.
This would solve a long standing problem movies, and to a lesser extent TV shows, have with fantastic settings: You don't have the time to do worldbuilding that you need to go beyond 'here are some stock tropes'. If you keep reusing the same setting, you get to lean on the things established in earlier films even without the films being sequels
I figured the robed figures were the Red Wizards of Thay. Long standing villains in the Faerun setting.
I was thinking the palid flesh guy in red robes with the horn looks like Ssaz Tam, could be one of his underlings. The bad guys are def the Red Wizards of Thay though
@@donniehoffman4738 Yeah that’s where I figured they were going with it.
They definitely are.
Yup! Spot on. The movie is set in the Forgotten Realms. We have The Underdark, a Harper pin, Neverwinter, Red Wizards of Thay in the trailer. I'm excited (as a big fan/DM of Faerun since the 90s.)! A dream come true!
This!
Hopefully it becomes its own cinematic franchise so we could watch more of it as the years pile up.
Oh how the years pile up
I agree . . .
On both accounts ^ 😆
*BRING IN THE ERA OF THE D&D CINEMATIC UNIVERSE!*
@@dynestis2875 Yes, I'm done with Woke Superheroes.
the years start commin and the don’t stop commmin
I sincerely want this to be it's own cinematic universe, will watch all of it in cinema to support.
Already making my movie-going costume(s)
More than a Stranger Things or Critical Role cameo/tie-in, it needs a The Gamers (especially Dorkness Rising) or possibly JourneyQuest (which has much of the same people).
I loved the fact that it's gonna have fun with the story, but also be loyal to the system and lorefriendly with the forgotten realms. Finally a story that is actually based on the settings of the adventures
I wouldn't *really* say it's entirely loyal when the druid wildshaped into an owlbear, a monstrosity
@@DrBodyshot apparently the film will be releasing along side new subclass options. Maybe a druid that can turn into things that aren't beasts?
i really hoped for a darker story
@@artturisiikanen3843 its a trailer, the first trailer. The story can still be dark. Thor Ragnarok was fun, funny and still dark because of the losses the Asgardians faced afterwards. Dont judge a book by its cover and this is DnD being realized in live action. Its exactly how most of us are around a table. Its fun and you dont have to take it seriously. They can take liberties since nothing in DnD's lore is set in stone so if they decide there are other subclasses then there are. Everyone has hombrewed at some point so I feel its fine if they arent that accurate unless they state specifics. This should be given a chance because if it does well then darker stories can then be told which incorporates more of the devils, demons and aberrations that are really scary. It has so much potential.
@@The_Crimson_Witch That'd be pretty neat, actually
The fact that the Black Dragon spits acid honestly sold me on this trailer
And the mimic sticky tongue.
Same, that and the mimic
Honestly I agree, imagine describing a Black Dragon's acid breath like this "As the Dragon rears up on to its hind legs, it exhales a stream of Black Acidic goo." You take 87 points of Acid damage
Same. That was my first indication that yep, they know their shit. I've seen other UA-camrs (one in particular) wonder if it was tar. Which just confirmed that he knows nothing about D&D even if he occasionally acts like he does.
@@Uldihaa I don’t think it was tar, because otherwise it would have all ignited the moment it hit the fire that it clearly did hit.
Thanks for putting up that question poll. I didn't realize you released this video. Let's go
The success of the DnD podcasts is casting its shadow! I'm slightly optimistic. It's set in Neverwinter and Icewind Dale. So many great stories to draw from. Myriads of possibilities for setting up future films. The cast is great.
Gimme Drizzt, Regis, Bruenor, Wulfgar and Catti-brie and i can die in peace. Imagine a gritty Drizzt origins story done alright. 🤤
Just hoped right on and recorded this when it came out! Not used to doing "reaction" content, but I am pretty hype about this movie now! What do you reckon? Nat 20 or Nat 1 on the trailer? I don't want to jinx it but I feel this will be one of the movies of all time!
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In my opinion, I’d say a 12 on a death save. A success, but no critical one
this is a movie
@@Runatyr I'd say its 16 on a skill check pretty good but not the best ever
Those wizards in the red robes remind me of the Red Wizards of Thay
The trailer was at least a 16. Successful roll!!
When I saw what I believe to be the main bad guy I immediately thought of the red wizards of thay.
A few things kinda clued me into thinking that. First the outfit, second the red wizards of thay had shaven heads with magic tattoos that were their spell focus. Finally the red wizards of thay are non-good alignment so it would make sense for them to be the main antagonist.
Totally agree, I noticed the head tattoos and red robes and thought of Thay immediately
That's what I thought too! I'm so glad other people noticed!
I believe you are right.
Is the one they show standing above the group (of undead I’m assuming) szazz tam you think?
@@mykeusgaming1510 this. Yep, pretty sure it is
i was waiting to see your take on the trailer. i like the breakdown, the indepth look at things from the trailer and how it relates to D&D. i look forward to seeing it
I saw this in the theater for the first time. It was fun looking at this trailer and halfway through realizing that it wasn’t just similar but actually DND.
If they want to build a D&D cinematic universe they could release a new movie every year, each one with a different cast/group of adventurers. Maybe bring them altogether for a finale like how Marvel gave each hero solo films before The Avengers.
Rip to Hawkeye and until recently Black Widow.
Not every year, I’d rather a three year gap and then be banger movies than take a year and not be as good.
Stop! Do not give me a hype that it will not be satisfied jaja, as you said it could be awesome, a fellowship made of 2 o 3 parties with a spam of 5 years movies till an epic finale
I'd love to see Matt Mercer show up the way he did in pg. 19 of Waterdeep: Dragon Heist; just sitting the background at the Yawning Portal, reading a book. Not a character played by Matt Mercer, just Matt himself, reading a book with a few sets of dice at the table.
Or they could be a visual gag like what happened in the Vox Machina show, having him DM-ing a game of the Critical Role universe's version of D&D with people.
I have heard that the Critical Role cast actually do have some cameos in the movie
Well the ginger Moon Druid with horns is basically Keyleth with the serial numbers filed off
A matt mercer / critical role cameo would be fantastic, haha
Matt Mercer, sitting at a table together with a Goliath, a Shifter, a Tabaxi and an Aasimar: ...and so, having completed the quest at the ATM, you finally make your way to the café; the air in there is filled with the fragrance of ground-up coffee beans and glazed pastries -- a man with a degrading paper hat on his head stands behind the counter, his soul-less, unblinking eyes beholding you with the impenetrable experience of someone who's been trapped in the fast food industry for way too long. Striding up to the counter you place your order but, just as you're about to pay, the man behind the counter opens his mouth and says in a droning, monotonous voice: "I'm sorry, sir, but your membership card has expired. You have to pay the full price."
Goliath: WHAT?! Oh, you are going down, buddy!
Matt: What action are you taking?
Goliath: I demand... to speak to the manager!
Shifter & Aasimar: Oooh!
**Goliath rolls the die... a nat 1**
Matt: The man looks at you. "You want to speak to the manager?" he says, his voice getting less monotonous as he speaks. Life seems to return to his eyes once more and a wicked smile splits his face as he straightens his back. Confidently meeting your eyes he slowly, deliberately points at the tag on the front of his dirty apron and with a voice full of cruel glee he exclaims, "Then go right ahead and speak, _sir!_ I AM THE MANAGER!" You all take, **rolls die** thirty-five emotional damage!
Goliath, Shifter & Aasimar: **GASPS IN D&D**
Tabaxi: I TOLD YOU!! I GODDAMN _TOLD YOU_ THAT WE SHOULD'VE GONE TO THE STOCK MARKET AND LEVEL GRINDED A BIT FIRST! BUT DID YOU LISTEN?! "NAH, IT'S JUST A CAFÉ!! WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?!" YOU'RE LIKE A BUNCH OF KITTENS WHO SHOVE THEIR ENTIRE ARMS INTO A COOKIE JAR BEFORE MAKING SURE IT'S NOT A MIMIC FIRST! IMBECILES! FOOLS! IF YOU BITE IT, I'M _NOT_ PERFORMING CPR ON YOU AGAIN!
This is the smallest thing but I got so excited when I saw the accurate horns on the black dragon!! Like it's such a tiny anatomical detail but I hyperfocused on dragon design a while back and it just makes me so happy
The depictions of our favorite monsters and iconic class features/powers is really something special to see.
*Things that have been confirmed:*
1. This takes place in Neverwinter and Icewind Dale, including specifically the Revel's End prison, which was actually created for this movie, since the writers/directors worked closely with Wizards of the Coast on it from the beginning.
2. The party makeup consists of a bard, a Path of the Storm Herald barbarian, a sorcerer, a paladin, and a druid.
3. There will be a cameo by at least one person famous in the D&D world, though they wouldn't say who.
4. Everything in this trailer.
5. Hugh Grant is the only member of the cast (including the writers/directors!) who has never played D&D and knows nothing about it. Everyone else has either played since they were younger or at least played in a cast game before filming to understand it.
*Things that are speculated:*
1. The necromancer and his followers are probably Szass Tam and his Red Wizards of Thay.
2. The chonky red dragon is probably Themberchaud, who is explicitly known to be chonky.
3. The horn in the beginning is possibly the Horn of Orcus?
4. The cameo will be from either a member of Critical Role or Joe Manganiello.
5. The druid being able to wild shape into an owlbear is probably Rule of Cool, but some people are speculating that maybe it's hinting at an upcoming druid subclass that can actually do that. I think it's the former, honestly, but a Circle of Monstrosity could be cool.
6. The paladin might be an Oathbreaker, given that he's working with thieves and the line about being glad he's on their side. That one is just my personal speculation, it could just be creative license or some "greater good" motivation for him (i.e. maybe he didn't work with them before and only joined up to help them stop Szass Tam).
I think it was a Wall of Force that blocked the Fireball/Firebolt, since the “shield” was invisible until the fire hit and the caster appeared to be concentrating on it.
More importantly, it seemed to have a potential area of 'entire party' rather than being a ranged touch attack.
Could also be a globe of invulnerability
@@mrsamiam7872 Yeah
@@mrsamiam7872 or another version of Otiluke's Resilient Sphere
I'm thinking globe of invulnerability blocking a fireball since the fire seems to spread out around the area of the forcefield. I would say a meteor from meteor swarm, but globe of invulnerability wouldn't be able to block that.
if they hit the fun, funny, whoa-that-was-cool vibe of actually playing (which this seems to do), and there's some idea of rhyme or reason to how powers work (even a joke about short rests or whatever) I'll be super pleased and happy for kids now to live in a world where dnd is evident and accessible.
Ok now i neeeed a short rest joke in there
@@KungfooBucket "k fine, how bout we chill for like 38 more minutes?"
About the red robed mages within the trailer I think they're possibly the wizards of Thay.
Context if someone isn't aware of who they are; they're a group of mages from the city of Thay that are run by it's ruler (who is in fact a Lich). Their main goal (from my understanding) is to convert people into the ranks of the undead but they do have members of the living among their ranks.
The dragon that you thought might be silver/gold is most likely a brass dragon, considering the coloration and wing shape. Wondering what they're gonna do with it, looks really cool!
The colour and the broader head seemed more like a bronze to me. I also really like what they did with the black dragon.
Apologies if I'm wrong though, most of my experience is with first and second edition without much knowledge at all of fourth and fifth.
hehe brass is the smartass asshole of dragons use one in my game as an anti-hero
Just a quess but coul be brass cos i bet they would have made silver / gold dragons scales more shiny or .. could be just animated statue .. cos its mouth also looks kinda stone like
@@bc64100 could fit the scene .. it didint seem happy at that clip... could even be scene where its mentioned that metallics are good guys .. and then they meet not amused brass one xD
At 0:27 you see a statue of a dragon. It looks like it is the same dragon you later see animated, so I think it might be a Golem that is shaped like a dragon.
So those undead guys are the Red Wizards of Thay. Their led by Szass Tam a lich that rules over the nation using his cabal of wizards.
depends on the timeline, Szass Tam first was the Zulkir of the School of Necromancy (one of each school), before he staged a coup and became the tyrant of Thay, hunting down the Red Wizards, who opposed his rule and fled the land.
@@belegur8108 In an interview about the movie I saw, they were talking about Neverwinter being rebuilt (due to the eruption of Mt Hotenow), so that is DEFINITELY after Szass Tam became ruler of Thay.
@@johncox7169 thx, good to know. So maybe the female red wizard could also be one of the renegades... oh, i love to theorize after a good movie trailer ;o)
The druid is best charachter. Clearly a superior 3.5 druid with access to monstrous wild shape
True! I was thinking you could turn into monsters at one point
They could be a 5e druid using polymorph
@@luckyk1ll3r2 nope, Polymorph in 5e also only into beasts, like wild shape
New subclass incoming maybe
@@LukeTarver maybe in 5.5 Owlbears become beasts, simple as that ;o)
I believe the official classes are bard, barbarian, Druid, paladin and sorcerer with hue grant as a rouge. Also love that we have a teafling Druid :)
On the fireball/fire bolt question: I think it's a flaming projectile from a siege engine. One is shown in the clip with the black dragon when he hits the trebuchet
If I'd have watched Steely Sam's short today before making this I'd have known that what I thought were liches are the Red Wizards of Thay! Looking cool af!
The Red Wizards have several Lich’s in their ranks so same difference.
@@Kragar01 their leader for one
@@davidhodgson1011 arent all of the zulkirs liches?
@@artturisiikanen3843 I don't think so, but the last novel I read that was set in Thay, was set around the 1370's DR. Lore could have changed.
Regarding your second prediction - in the panel after the trailer the cast and crew confirmed cameos from Critical Role and characters that would look similar to the cast of the 1983 Dungeons & Dragons animated television series. Super hyped!
I'd love a D&D cinematic universe. Just needs to be good though. I do love the Thor Ragnarok vibe as I think that's what D&D generally is about (groups of friends who just have a good time and make stupid jokes while playing a fantasy game). Main thing I'm not happy with is the usage of real world music (same thing I disliked about Ragnarok). I hope they only used it for the trailer though and won't use actual songs in the movie itself and instead get a good score that could actually be used during home games. And some of the jokes were a bit meh imo. Other than that, it looks surprisingly good.
I think that the silver/gold dragon is actually a gargoyle or construct carved to look like a metallic dragon.
It’s not only much smaller than the chromatic dragons shown, but it also looks like stone with gold accents inlaid. Additionally, in one of the first shots of the party, they walk past a fountain seemingly identical to the “dragon”.
Trailer looks amazing. Owlbear looks dope. Mimic was phenomenal. Now I just have to keep my expectations in check so I don't expect TOO much out of the movie.
What you thought was Vecna was a Red Wizard of Thay.
If they were doing the 'Legend of Drizzt', I would expect them to be completely serious, but I do like this "If Taika Waititi Directed a DnD Movie" feel.
I do hope we eventually see the Drizzt story, though.
That would be awesome. I would also like to see another in a "multiverse", set in Greyhawk with Mordenkainen, etc...
My dream....
If they want to build a cinematic universe with D&D, they should have each movie be a stand alone or at least only follow one group for a movie or two. There’s so many different ways they can go about making these films if this one does well.
Honestly love how the main Lich design is ripped straight from the MM. Like, looking at the pictures they got every little detail down and I love how his cult follows he base design. Kinda makes me think about using minis and how all the cultists look the same.
That is because the "cult" are the Red Wizards of Thay, and they all kinda dress the same. The Lich is Szass Tam, who is kinda the poster boy of liches in the Forgotten Realms.
Maybe when that Tiefling changes into an owlbear she's using the "Polymorph" spell or something like that, doesn't necessarily make her a druid if she can change into another creature.
Very happy to see you covering this thank you
I think during the opening sequence where they set the movie and give background on what's going on, it would be great if Matt Mercer did that intro.
And someone interrupts him to explain a character feature he forgot about, lol
@6:08 There is one way to shield a fireball spell, and its possible in this context. If they had leomund's tiny hut up, it would protect against fireball.
Yeah but it has a 10 minute cast time so it isn’t likely
I think it's just a conterspell
@@Jdvalentine13 the scene shows the wizard already casting something before the fire(ball/bolt) is even close to him. And its in a dome thats covering 2 people near the wizard.
With the snapshot that we saw, its entirely possible that he cast tiny hut, even over 10 minutes.
They also already have shown that they are willing to deviate from RAW (the owlbear wildshape), so whats stopping them from tweaking tiny hut? (or even the shield spell)
Wonderful Break down! and for the Red Dragon do you this it could be his Chonkiness himself, Themberchaud, the Wyrmsmith of Gracklstugh? But great work on your videos!
“So he makes plans that fail” “He also plays the lute”
To be honest, I'm both excited and really nervous. As you said, D&D is one of those things that's really hard for the movies to get right. But if it's done well, it could be a gold mine for DM's, because it gives us visuals to help players feel immersed in the world, so we aren't imagining different things.
I like that they chose the owlbear shapeshift. Is it actually rules as written? No, but it's such an iconic monster in the lore that it's really fitting to include it.
I mean we don't even know what subclass of Druid she is so maybe they make a new subclass for the movie that can do that...
@@bloodyirishman9155 I also read elsewhere in this comment section that owlbears used to be beasts in the previous editions
@@silverthedruid4754 Yea, I just meant if they wanted to make it 5e capatible and even sell books as a tie-in with the movie.
@@bloodyirishman9155 you are most likely correct
I don’t know if anyone watched the SDCC panel, or if it’s been released, but it was amazing. The directors are long time fans and the actors actually shared some heart warming stories about their experiences with D&D
This video is just highlighting how many neat details I missed from watching the trailer normally. Cool that they seem to actually be trying to represent rules and details present in the game
well it could be that the DM homebrewed that the nature gods adopted Owlbears as beasts. (or the druid is of a circle that lets them turn into monstrosities)
Maybe the druid used Shapechange spell. I think that might work. Still looks good. We will see tho lol
Yah DND is fully standard people make their own rules
Druids (level 8 and up) could wild shape into owlbears in 3.5e with the Magical Beasts Wild Shape feat from the Epic Level Handbook supplement.
Was hoping to see this comment here. There is more to D&D than just 5e, though it's all I've played. Lol
Or with the spell shapechange.
@@glennskouns7668 possible, but if you had the shapechange spell you’d probably pick a better monster than an owlbear
@@fakeandgay9592 unless you haven't actualy personaly encountered better monster then owlbear? as far as I know, shapechange only works with monsters you are personaly familiar with/have encountered.
@@Forgefaerie that is how it works yeah, but I find it hard to believe that an adventuring druid made it to level 17 without ever seeing a creature more powerful than an owlbear
Oh I so hope there is a Matt Mercer cameo! I didn’t even think of that! Also, love this channel! Always great to watch!
More than likely those are the Red Wizards of Thay (forgotten Realms setting). Their leader was a lich. Both fit. Also notice the brooch on Pine's character. It's a Harper's Pin. Clandestine organization of bards, etc. that try to bring / maintain balance in the Realms. This is going to be good.
One thing They might have missed, people were running around where the dragon breathed immediately after it passed.
Cautiously optimistic, I really loved the trailer. Speaking on the beholder, they had one of those in the 2000 movie, they probably wanted to avoid that.
I'm guessing that the Red Wizard lich is Szass Tam, he's been kicking around since Dreams of the Red Wizards book (printed 1988). Absolutely loved that book.
I like how this looks like an actual dnd campaign party ends up releasing something really bad the dm is trying to have a serious campaign but the players are having none of that
that's the impression I am getting, especially in trailer two where they set off traps.
Circle of the Moon druids can become friggiin Elementals. I'm willing to believe owlbear is not that far away, especially if Polymorph is involved. I like what i've seen so far. dodging a displacer beast to jump into a Gelatinous Cube. ooooffff
You could shield a Fireball with Wall of Force if you had it as a readied action, and a rule of cool Dungeon Master.
Or Globe of Invulnerability/Minor Globe.
I was also thinking the druid probably uses polymorph to become the owlbear
I think that's just a mundane ball of fire that got stopped, too big to be a firebolt and that's not how fireball works, I'm leaning more towards it being stopped by wall of force now, bc it covers the whole party
@@killcat1971 very true. dont think that guy is strong enough, but could a Antimagic bubble also displace a fireball?
@@talisredstar1543 Not the SFX I'd use and minor globe is only 4th level I think
Got DAMN I cant wait for this to come out. Definitely shows that they paid attention to Chris Perkins and WOTC on the details
That partly is what worries me, as WOTC quite frankly hasn't been doing so well.
Go check out official youtube channel, they said they added a prison tower in Rime of the Frostmaiden just for the movie.
Dude you suggesting the Matt Mercer cameo makes me NEED it now!
Diving into the gelatinous cube to escape the displacer and probs dragon fire - llove it -- and Dayummmm that tielfing druid w/her owlbear x-form was just lit!
The critroll/stranger things cameo will be in a tavern scene. The line "that's now how the game works" or similar will be said, followed by character not giving a shot then either starting a bar brawl or throwing something telekinetically at the guy who said "that's how the game works".
I mean, one could argue they already made a reference to stranger things in the trailer. That scene with the lich feels awfully like the Upside Down.
I thought the red dragon was one of the captive one a certain dwarf clan keeps to forge with dragon fire, hence why it was over weight and out of shape. Also the Gold dragon is probably a golem, it's on a fountain in one of the scenes
I think the red dragon is Themberchaud, an overweight dragon from Out of the Abyss. He lives in the duergar city of Gracklstugh.
From what Kendrick and Crawford were saying in the video from the "official" channel, this seems actually to be set in the Forgotten Realms.
Crawford mentions at one point a meeting early on where the film production/development group were at Wizards, sharing and workshoping ideas, and they asked about an already-lore-established prison. When Crawford realized that "there wasn't one", it led, eventually, to the inclusion in Icewind Dale~ Rime of the Frostmaiden of Revel's End, a prison run by the Lords' Alliance, which they then point out in the trailer.
Crawford also mentions Waterdeep, then goes on to talk extensively about Neverwinter, Mt. Hotenow and the eruption in 1451 DR, and the conflict in the region.
When you add in that the wizards doing the necromancy thing are spot on for Thayan Red Wizards...
I thought that twist on the 'fire breathing dragon flying overhead' trope being an acid spewing black dragon was a nice touch.
5:37 I think it might be the bard mansion spell, sorry I don't remember the name.
GREAT suggestion yeah! Mordenkainen's magnificent mansion is definitely a possibility
The "firebolt" could have been a fireball, and that was what the counterspell looked like?
6:00 it can be fire ball, but the pc is not casting shield. They could cast counter spell
That's a really interesting take on counterspell. As a GM of over 20 years I go back and forth on describing spell effects at the table. I like your interpretation a lot for basically nullifying or encapsulating an already cast fireball.
I was really interested in that dragon. I'm happy how they made dragons different
I was today years old when I realized this is an actual movie
I really hope it’s good. I’m curious on how it’ll play out
This looks like a fun time with gorgeous sets, a fun cast, and ,hopefully, an engaging plot, something like Willow meets Guardians of the Galaxy. I’m a bit disappointed so many members of the party are human when there are so many other races available. And while I do believe Chris Pine will be charismatic in this role I wish they leaned into him being a bard more, the scenes with him running around in armor give him more of a paladin or fighter look.
Don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure the Critical Role callout is them casting Keyleth, they just gave her a haircut. And it looks like the white/silver dragon is the fountain/statue from the opening scene walking through town.
Being fair, this is based in a very "vanilla" setting. So the less common races wouldn't be as fitting
A lot of people forget that the vast majority of races are either monstruous (adapted from a monster that was not originally meant to be playable) or just rare
Bards are versatile, it is one of their strength. They can wear armor and be ok fighters if they need. The scenes with him running around in armor could be a reflection of that if there is also more "bardic" scenes in the movie.
The Druid has horns, so I suspect she's a tiefling. Maybe the reason she can turn into an owlbear is because her bloodline allows her to turn into bestial monstrosities as well as beasts?
@@dplocksmith91 Nah...I think it's just artistic license for a more cinematic feel. Turning into a bear is nowhere near as cool as turning into an owlbear
The druid is actually a tiefling and the sorcerer is a half elf.
Got an advertisement for the movie during this video.
Also, the second dragon which you called a silver is a brass dragon and the fat red at the end is a named character in Out of the Abyss.
Red Wizards of Thay. Early news about the film while it was in production was it was set in The Forgotten Realms and that " army of liches" looks like The Red Wizards of Thay.
If Marisha Ray doesn't get to give sass to Dollar Store Keyleth in a cameo I will be sorely disappointed.
For real though, this does look like it's got some *real* potential to be a lot of fun. I've been fighting against hype, but I've got to admit that I'm hopeful!
Let's be real tho, Sophia Lillis is really good for her age. Marisha isn't the type to harsh the vibe of Sophia, but maybe the knock off Keyleth.
@@davidpitts5522 oh 100%, not trying to disparage the actress at all I'm sure she's great! But the design is, uh. Familiar.