May be too late to comment on this, but around 6:45, Tom is actually not trying to troll Sabin. He sees that he has enough Meter to Break, that's why he hits him with an Ice Ball even though he's still frozen - you can't use Breaker on projectiles. He just didn't want him to Break because Reptile can gain insane momentum off of a Breaker and both of their Life Bars were really low.
Westin Mcclister That is not a wise move - Brady himself has stated that once you are DOWN ONE ROUND you should NOT burn your entire meter because it almost guarantees losing the next one. "Meter is your LIFE in this game." One could argue that, if he X-Rayed Sabin he at least would have stayed in the game. However, Brady knew the risk he was taking. If he could have gone into Round 3 with Full Meter, that is an INSANE advantage! It didn't pay off, but I wouldn't say it was the wrong risk to take. A Bad Move =/= A Wrong Move.
I know he would have lost all his meter but other than breaker sub zeros not a meter relying charachter so to win round it would have definitely been good to use then
It doesn't matter whether you believe Sub-Zero's a Meter-Reliant character or not. It's common sense that having 0 Meter will always put you behind a player that has full Meter. This is standard across ALL characters!
@@jhevgainz2307 mk11 is a total letdown and failure to me whether in the story or in the gameplay... my favorite is mkX... best fighting game in the world but mk9 is a pure success too.
I'm thinking about how amazing this game looks with the speed of the battle but it has changed after all the patches. A lot of those moves have longer cooldown periods now.
@@stoner63reflex65 lol judging by your comment im assuming you arent really serious bout MK, i apologize if you are but basically sheeva cant even touch low hitbox characters like mileena because all of sheevas main moves will whiff (miss) the opponent. so regardless of skill level, Sheeva players cant really fight characters like mileena
Well my best combo that is pretty easy to pull of (for me anyways) with Scorpion is 13 hits 45% damage without using an X-Ray and when I do use X-Ray it is 51% damage. I can do a safe 35% combo with Scorpion btw.
There's a lot hate of some players around this game and Sub Zero (and other characters) who may not be that top tier rush down character, but requires good skill and a lot of patience. Sub... is more a counter-picker, or you can call him a close range zoner. His damage is based over the ice and clones, if you believe that's spam, you may not have the skill, because Sub it's cool, but it's too constrained.
I know old video, didn't know any of these guys. I watched twitch and see sonic fighting sabin, sabin one 1 time outta ten against Fox. These guys are really good.
My guess is that they wanted to bring some variety into Sub's gameplay. In mk9 your whole strategy as a Sub player revolved around clone spamming, and in mkx the clone variation was the only one used in pro matches
@@nem0men_901 Ice klone is part of Sub's identity like Scorpion's spear. "Spamming" is just using your best tools and in MK9 it took alot of skill- MK11 they character assasinated him and make him from a trap character to a mixup character, which is stupid and now MK1 ice klone is weak af while 15 other characters get all kinds of BS.
captain morgan! LMAO a flawless victory in and of itself to me. sum of these freeze poses r priceless, but this one...u can take it to the bank...of utter absolute hilarity. good eye for reference preston
Exactly the point, why would you not continue to do something the other person can't counter? People that whine about spammers and zoners are people not good enough to deal with it.
@Jeezay999 EXACTLY bro. EVERY sub-zero user I face online does the same exact damn thing. they Ice clone, spam the ice ball, and once you get frozen they do that same easy-ass combo that ends with the slide. And they won't ever attack you first either. You have to be frozen for a sub-zero user to actually finally punch you.
Sub Zero bases his combos on freezing, like scorpion bases them on the spear. If someone consider the usage of the ice of Tom Brady like spam, then it means he doesn't know a fucking thing about sub zero.
It's funny how fast people get angry on king of the hill, they give you a 10 for beating the guy that's been the king for a couple games and then they give you a 0 when you beat them. lol
First rule of fighting games tounament: if you see your opponent not being able to counter your move, spam it. It's proven effective against that opponent and highly rewarding so even if you're not looking all that flashy, repeat that move. There's money on the line and you entered to win. I learned that when I played DBZ BT3, repeated one move 3 times in a row and got away with it, stopped cuz i saw it was cheap and opponent couldn't react to it, and lost that match afterwards. I could have won that way but didn't. After all, all moves are there for a reason. When there's money on the line, every strategy is viable. If you're spamming moves when playing with friends for fun, then you're just a dick.
if you play it you'll get used to the games pace with the slow dashing blocking and what not, it is really fun once you master a fighter and know his combos even a single player ladder is fun. and about the breaker it actually come at the cost of not being able to break any combos for the next few mins and not being able to do an X-ray.
@Kylesquad For both reptile and subzero the start up frames of their x-ray have no armour because they are so fast, its only until they start advancing forward when the armour kicks in
@situationofchaos your probably doing the same acid ball twice you have to use the slow one then fast one or the other way around cant do the same force ball twice in one combo
It may be old by industry's standard, but it's yet to be replaced by anything (Injustice? Don't make my slippers laugh). Besides, it's still new for those who use PC exclusively.
I wonder if Sub-Zero would have been just as good if Netherealm had decided for him to remain with his Ice Parry move rather than replacing it with the Ice Clone.
@SoldierOfALostCause It just represents the team he's just like how call of duty has teams that go against each other in tournaments well it's the same here he's on the team empire like he practices with them and all that but of course in Mortal Kombat you play in singles.
No good player uses the ice puddle, its way too slow and at this level you cant really afford to risk it. You have to drop the last hit of the combo so you can put a freeze in there. You cant do y-y-y then freeze. Also if he misses his attack the recovery is better after the 2nd y then it is the third.
I'm not a sub player but I play enough of them to pretty much know what's he's capable of. After a clone, couldn't he have just used the EX ice on the floor to force a jump? He couldve pressured him near a wall, set up a clone, then use the EX puddle for something right?
@TheTiagoSerrano You know, In my mind, tier doesn't mean anything. If you actually learn the character your playing, you can beat anyone. (With the exception of some characters match-up.) And Scorpion is a goodcharacter, not because he has amazing tool for everything, but because he has a tool for everything. He's so versatile. And if you really thing that a Scorpion can't beat a good Kitana, your wrong by a lot. 16 Bit, the best kitana in the world, trains with a pro Scorpion.
@koufax8540 Don't ask stupid question like this. There are tier list that will give you general idea of which characters is very strong, but high tiered character get beat by average tier all the time.
ice clone is such a great defensive weapon cuz to be honest sub is pretty fucking slow so that makes it easier to deal with faster opponents like reptile...i mean reptile isnt super fast but he is faster than sub
It's actually just the same as it ever was, Sektor is really good if you use him correctly... I went against someone who used him and just kept on using uppercuts flames combos and well everything. lol I was using Kenshi at the time trying to practice with him but that was a long time ago in October. I have gotten way better with Kenshi and he is actually really good but I still like using Scorpion. I just love winning and then seeing people rage quit on King of the Hill. xD
Haha yeah, I haven't played MK9 in a long time so I don't exactly know what the current version of the game is like but I do know that I never could assume I was going to win against specific character, if someone is good enough and smart enough they can win. Heck, I went on a 20 game win streak with Sektor, a character I never see being used in tournaments, so you never know...
i cant even play this game worth a shit but i still like watching tournament match videos its a cool game to watch. I'd probably play it more if they had a separate run button instead of double tapping forward to dash. Also i don't like the whole breaker thing, i understand it brings some strategy into the game concerning how you use your meter but its basically a get out of fuckin up free pass and that doesnt belong IMO.
I consider him the fastest in the game next to kung lao because his rush down is ridicules and that ice clone keeps him honest and forces players to respect sub zero. The only real flaw with the ice clone are teleport attacks a simple teleport can like cyrax can be punished if you read it happening. All well though not every character can be a kung lao or kabal.
@frankyagernull Think of it as a basketball game. It's bad mannered to throw your hands up in the air screaming "WHAT?!" after you kicked their ass in the game. Fatalaties are somewhat like that feeling.
@summitdude111 yes it does cuz Tom brady doesnt have the quickness needed for fighting games, and Chris G. he is a legend in street fighting games and king of fighter, and fatal fury, Chris G cant be beaten by any other MK player.
mk9 is still my favorite mortal kombat to this day :( I miss it
Same, I still play it much more then x and 11. Even without the online .
11 is fun
Me2
@@LLCojoIt's freaking garbage bro...lmao
@@LLCojo no, mkx is fun
May be too late to comment on this, but around 6:45, Tom is actually not trying to troll Sabin. He sees that he has enough Meter to Break, that's why he hits him with an Ice Ball even though he's still frozen - you can't use Breaker on projectiles. He just didn't want him to Break because Reptile can gain insane momentum off of a Breaker and both of their Life Bars were really low.
aah thats some good insight, thankyou
He had enough for an X-ray and you can't use a breaker in that so he should have done that once he froze him
Westin Mcclister That is not a wise move - Brady himself has stated that once you are DOWN ONE ROUND you should NOT burn your entire meter because it almost guarantees losing the next one.
"Meter is your LIFE in this game."
One could argue that, if he X-Rayed Sabin he at least would have stayed in the game. However, Brady knew the risk he was taking. If he could have gone into Round 3 with Full Meter, that is an INSANE advantage! It didn't pay off, but I wouldn't say it was the wrong risk to take. A Bad Move =/= A Wrong Move.
I know he would have lost all his meter but other than breaker sub zeros not a meter relying charachter so to win round it would have definitely been good to use then
It doesn't matter whether you believe Sub-Zero's a Meter-Reliant character or not. It's common sense that having 0 Meter will always put you behind a player that has full Meter. This is standard across ALL characters!
MK9 was so hype, my favorite MK game
Always be the best mk
What about x
@@l750z_6 MKX was way a head of it’s time and I don’t think people realise how good that game was to be honest
@@ceejay_gaming9636 ya I always said mk11 was better to me but I'm very slowly starting to prefer mkx over 11 now. Mk9 is still my favorite tho
@@jhevgainz2307 mk11 is a total letdown and failure to me whether in the story or in the gameplay... my favorite is mkX... best fighting game in the world but mk9 is a pure success too.
my goodness.
Sub-Zero must be Brady's kid or something.
Epic, epic skills from Brady, yet again.
Tom Brady may not be the best player but he definitely is the most patient and smartest player in the game for sure.
This why I use sub zero Brady just makes it intense with simple combos .
The best part about watching Sabin play is that you don't have to listen to his commentary.
I've fought so many sub zeros that spam clones... I found many ways for my reptile to get around them ;))
nice, happy to see some mk tournement play.
When you thought MK made a comeback with MK9, MK got a miscarreage with injustice and made a bb valled MKx... MK9 needs a remake for ps4 or 5
sounds like someone just couldn't hang with mkx
@@BIGWH1FF Mk9 was dope man, mkx has nothing to do with it
what about mk 11?
I'm thinking about how amazing this game looks with the speed of the battle but it has changed after all the patches. A lot of those moves have longer cooldown periods now.
MK9 was easily the best competitive MK
the game was hype as hell and really fun but i really wish the balance was better
Yea, that is understandable, and by the way, Tom Brady is a monster of a MK player
Enjoyed watching this thanks for uploading it
yeah sure will! I think my problem was inputting 2,1,2 too early. ill be sure to watch out for the bounce THEN input it.....Thanks!!
Any character can beat any character, you just have to know what you are doing.
Exactly
@@NerdMagic how tf can a sheeva player fight a good mileena? or anyone with a small hitbox really
@@joshAKAtheman by being good at the game
@@stoner63reflex65 lol judging by your comment im assuming you arent really serious bout MK, i apologize if you are but basically sheeva cant even touch low hitbox characters like mileena because all of sheevas main moves will whiff (miss) the opponent. so regardless of skill level, Sheeva players cant really fight characters like mileena
@@joshAKAtheman so all the videos of gga jeremiah and auimdigimon are just fake right?
Well my best combo that is pretty easy to pull of (for me anyways) with Scorpion is 13 hits 45% damage without using an X-Ray and when I do use X-Ray it is 51% damage. I can do a safe 35% combo with Scorpion btw.
There's a lot hate of some players around this game and Sub Zero (and other characters) who may not be that top tier rush down character, but requires good skill and a lot of patience. Sub... is more a counter-picker, or you can call him a close range zoner. His damage is based over the ice and clones, if you believe that's spam, you may not have the skill, because Sub it's cool, but it's too constrained.
@Kylesquad he did a "wake up" xray basically so he had the slight invincibility advantage
Brady stream brought me here Jan. 23 ‘18
Tom Brady has a monopoly on the "Smart Stuff"
I know old video, didn't know any of these guys. I watched twitch and see sonic fighting sabin, sabin one 1 time outta ten against Fox. These guys are really good.
so what do characters in this game and MKX have that justifies sub zero having clone but hes not allowed it in MK11?
My guess is that they wanted to bring some variety into Sub's gameplay. In mk9 your whole strategy as a Sub player revolved around clone spamming, and in mkx the clone variation was the only one used in pro matches
@@nem0men_901 yeah
Cuz 16 bit is a bitch and lost to him and just got rid of that shit
@@nem0men_901 Ice klone is part of Sub's identity like Scorpion's spear. "Spamming" is just using your best tools and in MK9 it took alot of skill- MK11 they character assasinated him and make him from a trap character to a mixup character, which is stupid and now MK1 ice klone is weak af while 15 other characters get all kinds of BS.
@Wrestler71479 ice puddle is useless unless its advanced. and the ice clone thing is amazing against non teleporting characters.
Such a great Sub Zero.
I dont like playing video games but i love to watch mk9 tournaments
haha reptile doing the captain morgan pose at 12:00
captain morgan! LMAO a flawless victory in and of itself to me. sum of these freeze poses r priceless, but this one...u can take it to the bank...of utter absolute hilarity. good eye for reference preston
i was expecting something very different when i saw tom brady in the description
I saw this video pop up while scrolling and my eyes bugged out being reminded how long ago mk9 was
Exactly the point, why would you not continue to do something the other person can't counter? People that whine about spammers and zoners are people not good enough to deal with it.
@Jeezay999
EXACTLY bro. EVERY sub-zero user I face online does the same exact damn thing. they Ice clone, spam the ice ball, and once you get frozen they do that same easy-ass combo that ends with the slide. And they won't ever attack you first either. You have to be frozen for a sub-zero user to actually finally punch you.
Sub Zero bases his combos on freezing, like scorpion bases them on the spear. If someone consider the usage of the ice of Tom Brady like spam, then it means he doesn't know a fucking thing about sub zero.
Cool match. I love MK9 but I suck ass at it. I like watching other gamers battle each other. good shit
It's funny how fast people get angry on king of the hill, they give you a 10 for beating the guy that's been the king for a couple games and then they give you a 0 when you beat them. lol
Man Tom Brady is only like 43 here. He looks so young!
lol
Is the commentator gay for Tom Brady?
lol Tom Brady with that trolling
First rule of fighting games tounament: if you see your opponent not being able to counter your move, spam it. It's proven effective against that opponent and highly rewarding so even if you're not looking all that flashy, repeat that move. There's money on the line and you entered to win. I learned that when I played DBZ BT3, repeated one move 3 times in a row and got away with it, stopped cuz i saw it was cheap and opponent couldn't react to it, and lost that match afterwards. I could have won that way but didn't. After all, all moves are there for a reason. When there's money on the line, every strategy is viable. If you're spamming moves when playing with friends for fun, then you're just a dick.
@Shokio No shit, sub-zero is a VERY defensive character. It's what wins matches and tournaments.
3:49 Synchronized "oooooo"
If you think 'spam' exists in fighting games, you don't know a thing about fighting games.
Wow art has a really good reptile, he can hit that NJP like nothin :O
if you play it you'll get used to the games pace with the slow dashing blocking and what not, it is really fun once you master a fighter and know his combos even a single player ladder is fun. and about the breaker it actually come at the cost of not being able to break any combos for the next few mins and not being able to do an X-ray.
@Kylesquad For both reptile and subzero the start up frames of their x-ray have no armour because they are so fast, its only until they start advancing forward when the armour kicks in
This still hype af in 2021
I'm not an MK fan but I saw no spamming by either players. Just perfecting zoning.
For XBOX: 1=X, 2=Y, 3=A, 4= B
For PS3: 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=X, 4= Circle
Lmao at the captain morgan pose at 12:00
Dude, the game had only been out for a few months at this point. Watch later tournaments when they have their characters mastered.
@situationofchaos your probably doing the same acid ball twice you have to use the slow one then fast one or the other way around cant do the same force ball twice in one combo
Probably the first and last time i'll ever cheer for a Reptile.
It may be old by industry's standard, but it's yet to be replaced by anything (Injustice? Don't make my slippers laugh). Besides, it's still new for those who use PC exclusively.
tom brady on the smart stuff
I wonder if Sub-Zero would have been just as good if Netherealm had decided for him to remain with his Ice Parry move rather than replacing it with the Ice Clone.
exellent gameplay !
Yeah but if you freeze them mid-air you need it. Plus b1 2 214 slide is a great corner ender.
@Itsallover57 definitely the greatest fighter i've ever played besides sf2
To save time, but sometimes people do in tournaments anyway.
1:41 FIGHT!
oh ok. so i input 2,1,2 AFTEr he bounces, and not after he hits 1,2(before they bounce on the ground)?
is this Sub-Zero's best BnB?
???? subzero can delay his X Ray like that at 9:19? i thought it came out quicker than that? i always miss it when i try to do that combo
Greatest Tom!
@SoldierOfALostCause It just represents the team he's just like how call of duty has teams that go against each other in tournaments well it's the same here he's on the team empire like he practices with them and all that but of course in Mortal Kombat you play in singles.
No good player uses the ice puddle, its way too slow and at this level you cant really afford to risk it. You have to drop the last hit of the combo so you can put a freeze in there. You cant do y-y-y then freeze. Also if he misses his attack the recovery is better after the 2nd y then it is the third.
I'm not a sub player but I play enough of them to pretty much know what's he's capable of. After a clone, couldn't he have just used the EX ice on the floor to force a jump? He couldve pressured him near a wall, set up a clone, then use the EX puddle for something right?
Maybe because it is PS3 exclusive. Kratos is also banned on tournaments. I'm not 100% sure, correct me if I'm wrong.
@TheTiagoSerrano You know, In my mind, tier doesn't mean anything. If you actually learn the character your playing, you can beat anyone. (With the exception of some characters match-up.) And Scorpion is a goodcharacter, not because he has amazing tool for everything, but because he has a tool for everything. He's so versatile. And if you really thing that a Scorpion can't beat a good Kitana, your wrong by a lot. 16 Bit, the best kitana in the world, trains with a pro Scorpion.
4:05 lol'd at commentators pun
The timing on the Back + 1, 2, 2,1,2 is too hard! he just keeps doing a spin around crouch swipe .
how come when i do that acid ball twice they fall back on the ground?
thanks buddy
@koufax8540 Don't ask stupid question like this. There are tier list that will give you general idea of which characters is very strong, but high tiered character get beat by average tier all the time.
Didn't Sabin commentate for either PDP or PowerUp?
Tom Brady likes Sub-Zero because he punishes all those Reptile players
S Tier - Kitana, Cyrax, Freddy Kreuger as of the patch
What newer sub? What's the name of the video?
ice clone is such a great defensive weapon cuz to be honest sub is pretty fucking slow so that makes it easier to deal with faster opponents like reptile...i mean reptile isnt super fast but he is faster than sub
5:50 WTF? The Armor you get from an X-Ray should have gone right through that Ice Clone. Weird...
You said that perfectly lol
of course he does, do you think the acid just magically appears under his feet?
It's actually just the same as it ever was, Sektor is really good if you use him correctly... I went against someone who used him and just kept on using uppercuts flames combos and well everything. lol I was using Kenshi at the time trying to practice with him but that was a long time ago in October. I have gotten way better with Kenshi and he is actually really good but I still like using Scorpion. I just love winning and then seeing people rage quit on King of the Hill. xD
Typically, it gets hype up, unless the organizer is pressed for time and will tell them to stop. At CEO this year, Jebailey encouraged them.
I suggest watching more than 1 MK 9 video.
@patrickh92able nope sub-zero is so trash until his slide is able to go under projectiles, will i play him again.
Haha yeah, I haven't played MK9 in a long time so I don't exactly know what the current version of the game is like but I do know that I never could assume I was going to win against specific character, if someone is good enough and smart enough they can win. Heck, I went on a 20 game win streak with Sektor, a character I never see being used in tournaments, so you never know...
@Shokio i prefer being more aggressive with sub and using clone as anti-air. and doin the 12 hit 36% as my b and b
why did reptiles x-ray fail to break thru the ice clone the 1st time then go thru it the 2nd time
Sub zero has one or two low 30% combos. Therefore he HAS to do the same combo or we will be doing like low 20% combos.
i cant even play this game worth a shit but i still like watching tournament match videos its a cool game to watch. I'd probably play it more if they had a separate run button instead of double tapping forward to dash. Also i don't like the whole breaker thing, i understand it brings some strategy into the game concerning how you use your meter but its basically a get out of fuckin up free pass and that doesnt belong IMO.
this shi so fun
I consider him the fastest in the game next to kung lao because his rush down is ridicules and that ice clone keeps him honest and forces players to respect sub zero. The only real flaw with the ice clone are teleport attacks a simple teleport can like cyrax can be punished if you read it happening. All well though not every character can be a kung lao or kabal.
@patrickh92able Then how is it Chris G was beaten by JOP at EVO?
@frankyagernull Think of it as a basketball game. It's bad mannered to throw your hands up in the air screaming "WHAT?!" after you kicked their ass in the game. Fatalaties are somewhat like that feeling.
@summitdude111 yes it does cuz Tom brady doesnt have the quickness needed for fighting games, and Chris G. he is a legend in street fighting games and king of fighter, and fatal fury, Chris G cant be beaten by any other MK player.
@phantom1305
No dude, there's a difference between playing defensively and SPAMMING. What Tom Brady does is SPAM. You don't see how cheap he plays?
This is where we get rage quits from.
Damn Nice fuckin combos with this good work
Art godlike for using reptile
Back when MK wasn't super brown.
Wtf does that even mean?
wurlbfree1981 racist comment this guy’s is an idiot don’t bother
going straight to character select speeds things up instead of waiting for the win animation. don't think he's a sore looser