I bought MPR and have not opened it. I just wanted to support these Devs. Clearly care about the game, and have done a good job remastering it. Metroid deserves more attention, like Pikmin.
Very strange that he would say that PBR isn't possible to do on the Switch at 60 FPS, when literally every Nintendo EPD game uses it, including their 60 FPS titles like Splatoon 2/3 and Super Mario Odyssey. I'm pretty sure PBR has been part of EPD's pipeline since the Wii U days. Subjectively, it's probably why EPD's Wii U and Switch games look noticeably better than PS3/X360 games. Games like Skyrim (even Special Edition) and Tomb Raider 2013 look woefully outdated next to, say, Breath of the Wild, simply because BotW uses PBR materials (and a lot of other modern techniques) while Skyrim and Tomb Raider were released before these techniques became standard in games.
@@mrdoggo3569 the only other Nintendo game I can think of that used a lot of it was xenoblade 2, but that game was 30fps and had dynamic resolution that could drop pretty bad. this might be one of the reasons why xenoblade 3 uses far less of it.
@@metroidcypher no xenoblade 3 is better looking than xeno 2 and it runs at a lower res as well 540p in docked but the image quality is better due to the new upscaling technique used
@@xtr.7662 I never said XC3 looked worse than XC2. They both run at the same internal resolution and XC2 has higher resolution textures due to its world being significantly smaller
yeah but to manage that it runs at 640x720 with temporal reconstruction, and even then, in a racing game, the devs know exactly what the player can see at any given time and from what angle, which makes optimization of assets MUCH easier
this is why I bought metroid prime remastered I don't even like Metroid but I like most people enjoy visually appealing graphics, and when a hard-working team like retro studios puts a graphically impressive game on a piece of junk I support it Thank you, retro studios for accutally trying to make a good looking game
Prime 2 on GCN removed most of the vertex lighting from Prime 1 already. For what reason? I have no idea. Sure, the environments and models seemed to consist of more details than Prime 1, but not to such a degree that it was worth it IMO, the lack of dynamic lights seriously detracts from the overall atmosphere. It is one of the main reasons I always thought the game looked worse than Prime 1, even when I was a kid. Then Prime 3 came along on the Wii and removed dynamic lights even more. But at least you could actually see a noticeable increase in detail and bloom lighting (though the dynamic lights were still sorely missed).
@@M0liusX Nope, it maintains 30 the vast majority of the time, only dropping here and there for a few seconds when there is a LOT going on. But the amount of stuff it's achieving while doing that is pretty remarkable.
@@StormsparkPegasus The game is hardcoded 20fps. That's why there are 30fps and 60fps patches online. I think. Don't remember though. You might be right.
I never played Prime back in the day. I played about an hour on the Switch. Do you scan everything basically the whole game? I dropped it cause it seemed tedious as hell.
The scanning is for lore, for weakness information, and for machine activation. You don't have to scan everything, but it can save you if you do. Having trouble on a boss? Scan it and read the info. If your goal is to scan everything, especially because of certain missables, it's tedious. But if you play it in a more "normal" way, it will blow your mind. As an example, I believe the scanner is only needed 3 times in the tutorial, going normally. Then it depends on your routes and progress.
Iirc it's color coded... faded is stuff you've already scanned, orange is non critical stuff like flavor lore, red is mission critical or for stuff you haven't scanned before such as new enemies or items. There are a few items that can be missed but getting all critical scans and all items gets your 100% completion and the best ending.
I always felt like the Metroid prime games had a similar vibe to Turok N64 both Games ie dinosaur Hunter and Seeds of Evil. Metroid Prime remake is quite remarkable as was the original on GameCube.
It's a beautiful game...i just wish it had the finishing little touches the original game had. The shots don't light up the environment and the mirror is no longer working. As for dolphin. That hd texture pack really does a lot of heavy lifting. I'm super excited for what fans can do to Metroid prime HD in a few years. The upper limit is theoretically much higher for it.
The mirror was a very low rez texture on top of the mirror, not even an actual low rez reflection of samus. If they got away with it is because nobody minds with those old graphics. Nowadays they would have to do something much better, more complex, in order to get away with a convincing reflection, and the Swtich just can't handle that. And it's the same with the light of the beams. The way games worked at the time, and how they work now is very different, something that was very doable before, now is very expensive for the hardware because it has to look more real (and the compromises made in the gamecube version are not as obvious because we didn't know what was lost to get what we got, but now we know that basically it was either the illumination on the shots, or the modern updated graphics).
@@ivanaviNiebla i know. You'd have to do borderline rtx..... It is the unreal engine running this game right? Does the morph ball output illumination in this version i can't remember
I think crysis 3 still looks better and also has much more massive and detailed environments and also does small details and lighting better, but it's 30 fps, and lower res. Metroid prime remake is super impressive. Also alien isolation is one of the best looking games easily too
@@N.i.E.M.O ua-cam.com/video/wtyrvr-svsw/v-deo.htmlsi=50DXRxm1skfX_jKx You're seriously delusional. Prime 2 came out in November 2004, months before 2005 and the Remaster looks miles better than it, don't give me that bs.
Gotta disagree. The best looking game on a system cannot be a god damn rerelease of a 20 year old game. Metroid Prime might be the best Gamecube game. But the Switch's best game has to be an actual Switch exclusive game. I just don't get why people are obssessed with replaying the same games on every console.
I don't like the art style for this game and don't think it looks better than the original. Looks too cartoony, too dark and lacks reflective properties.
I definitely agree with you on the “too dark” part. There were literally times where I was in certain locations and I couldn’t see a damn thing in front of me haha.
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Retro are made up of some really skilled, talented, and hard-working people. They're always achieving things bigger game studios never manage.
I really can't wait to see what they did for Prime 4 and probably Prime 2 and 3
Prime 4 is going to be mind-blowing. I just know it!!!
I think visually it will be the same, I just want to know the story and gameplay.
Retro and Monolith have some real talent
I bought MPR and have not opened it. I just wanted to support these Devs. Clearly care about the game, and have done a good job remastering it. Metroid deserves more attention, like Pikmin.
Some small compromises were made, but the game is without s doubt the best looking Switch game, by a mile
You obviously haven't played crysis 3
Very strange that he would say that PBR isn't possible to do on the Switch at 60 FPS, when literally every Nintendo EPD game uses it, including their 60 FPS titles like Splatoon 2/3 and Super Mario Odyssey. I'm pretty sure PBR has been part of EPD's pipeline since the Wii U days. Subjectively, it's probably why EPD's Wii U and Switch games look noticeably better than PS3/X360 games. Games like Skyrim (even Special Edition) and Tomb Raider 2013 look woefully outdated next to, say, Breath of the Wild, simply because BotW uses PBR materials (and a lot of other modern techniques) while Skyrim and Tomb Raider were released before these techniques became standard in games.
I asked around, and while yes there are many nintendo games that use it, the impressive part comes from how much retro used it.
@@mrdoggo3569 the only other Nintendo game I can think of that used a lot of it was xenoblade 2, but that game was 30fps and had dynamic resolution that could drop pretty bad. this might be one of the reasons why xenoblade 3 uses far less of it.
@@metroidcypher no xenoblade 3 is better looking than xeno 2 and it runs at a lower res as well 540p in docked but the image quality is better due to the new upscaling technique used
Even with PBR workflow it's still possible to bake
@@xtr.7662 I never said XC3 looked worse than XC2. They both run at the same internal resolution and XC2 has higher resolution textures due to its world being significantly smaller
Here's hoping Prime 4 was moved to a Switch 2 game so Retro can really flex their stuff.
Physic based rendering was available on Wii U at 60fps.
Fast Racing Neo proves this
*Fast Racing Neo
RMX is the Switch version.
Racing games are a lot easier to optimize than non linear shooters.
yeah but to manage that it runs at 640x720 with temporal reconstruction, and even then, in a racing game, the devs know exactly what the player can see at any given time and from what angle, which makes optimization of assets MUCH easier
Wii U doesn't have a mobile processor and GPU like Switch
@@brandoggt's weaker, it's based off a 13- 15 year cpu with some basic AMD graphics and only 2g of ram
this is why I bought metroid prime remastered I don't even like Metroid but I like most people enjoy visually appealing graphics, and when a hard-working team like retro studios puts a graphically impressive game on a piece of junk I support it
Thank you, retro studios for accutally trying to make a good looking game
Stupidest thing i read in a LONG time and it will neve register to you how dumb this comment is
I'm worried it won't be coming to Prime 2 Echoes, and that's my favorite of the series
Prime 2 on GCN removed most of the vertex lighting from Prime 1 already. For what reason? I have no idea. Sure, the environments and models seemed to consist of more details than Prime 1, but not to such a degree that it was worth it IMO, the lack of dynamic lights seriously detracts from the overall atmosphere. It is one of the main reasons I always thought the game looked worse than Prime 1, even when I was a kid.
Then Prime 3 came along on the Wii and removed dynamic lights even more. But at least you could actually see a noticeable increase in detail and bloom lighting (though the dynamic lights were still sorely missed).
Mario Odyssey also uses PBR materials and runs at a solid 60FPS.
Tears of the Kingdom gives it a run for its money. But something HAS to be said for Prime Remastered looking the way it does while running at 60fps.
That game runs at 20 fps, and that's while using some drastic dynamic scale rendering. Not really a fair comparison.
@@M0liusX Nope, it maintains 30 the vast majority of the time, only dropping here and there for a few seconds when there is a LOT going on. But the amount of stuff it's achieving while doing that is pretty remarkable.
@@StormsparkPegasus The game is hardcoded 20fps. That's why there are 30fps and 60fps patches online. I think. Don't remember though. You might be right.
@@M0liusX It's 30 FPS with a double-buffer vsync.
@@alondite215 Thanks.
I understood about 30% of what he said
Go to school with the same major as he were.
@@EnchantedSmellyWolf nah I’m good I’m happy with my job
I absolutely loved Metroid Prime on GCUBE. After 100% completing Remastered on the Switch just now, I can easily say this is top 3 games ever made.
I never played Prime back in the day. I played about an hour on the Switch. Do you scan everything basically the whole game? I dropped it cause it seemed tedious as hell.
The scanning is for lore, for weakness information, and for machine activation. You don't have to scan everything, but it can save you if you do. Having trouble on a boss? Scan it and read the info. If your goal is to scan everything, especially because of certain missables, it's tedious. But if you play it in a more "normal" way, it will blow your mind.
As an example, I believe the scanner is only needed 3 times in the tutorial, going normally. Then it depends on your routes and progress.
@@dancarter5775 thanks, I’ll give it another go.
Iirc it's color coded... faded is stuff you've already scanned, orange is non critical stuff like flavor lore, red is mission critical or for stuff you haven't scanned before such as new enemies or items.
There are a few items that can be missed but getting all critical scans and all items gets your 100% completion and the best ending.
I always felt like the Metroid prime games had a similar vibe to Turok N64 both Games ie dinosaur Hunter and Seeds of Evil. Metroid Prime remake is quite remarkable as was the original on GameCube.
Most of the dev team worked on Turok and Turok 2; Seeds of Evil...
Retro Studios was borne from Iguana.
It's a beautiful game...i just wish it had the finishing little touches the original game had. The shots don't light up the environment and the mirror is no longer working.
As for dolphin. That hd texture pack really does a lot of heavy lifting.
I'm super excited for what fans can do to Metroid prime HD in a few years. The upper limit is theoretically much higher for it.
the shots might be a real complaint but the mirror, really.
@@mrdoggo3569 yes, the mirror is important.
@@jdniscool metroid fan moment
The mirror was a very low rez texture on top of the mirror, not even an actual low rez reflection of samus. If they got away with it is because nobody minds with those old graphics. Nowadays they would have to do something much better, more complex, in order to get away with a convincing reflection, and the Swtich just can't handle that.
And it's the same with the light of the beams. The way games worked at the time, and how they work now is very different, something that was very doable before, now is very expensive for the hardware because it has to look more real (and the compromises made in the gamecube version are not as obvious because we didn't know what was lost to get what we got, but now we know that basically it was either the illumination on the shots, or the modern updated graphics).
@@ivanaviNiebla i know. You'd have to do borderline rtx..... It is the unreal engine running this game right? Does the morph ball output illumination in this version i can't remember
I think crysis 3 still looks better and also has much more massive and detailed environments and also does small details and lighting better, but it's 30 fps, and lower res. Metroid prime remake is super impressive.
Also alien isolation is one of the best looking games easily too
Is it sad that a remaster of a 20 year old game is the best-looking thing on the Switch?
Yes.
is it impressive that they got pbr working on 8 year old mobile hardware?
Yes, by miles.
Lol no such thing as a good looking switch game
Good Looking - for Switch
Which basically means it looks almost as good as a 360 game from 2005
@@N.i.E.M.O at 30 fps
@@dannyd4339 The game they're talking about here is running at a consistent 60fps.
@@N.i.E.M.O ua-cam.com/video/wtyrvr-svsw/v-deo.htmlsi=50DXRxm1skfX_jKx You're seriously delusional. Prime 2 came out in November 2004, months before 2005 and the Remaster looks miles better than it, don't give me that bs.
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Gotta disagree. The best looking game on a system cannot be a god damn rerelease of a 20 year old game. Metroid Prime might be the best Gamecube game. But the Switch's best game has to be an actual Switch exclusive game. I just don't get why people are obssessed with replaying the same games on every console.
Bad take
Not everybody has all Nintendo consoles.
I don't like the art style for this game and don't think it looks better than the original. Looks too cartoony, too dark and lacks reflective properties.
I definitely agree with you on the “too dark” part. There were literally times where I was in certain locations and I couldn’t see a damn thing in front of me haha.
It's stylized, not cartoony. ua-cam.com/video/wtyrvr-svsw/v-deo.htmlsi=50DXRxm1skfX_jKx
It looks ok......there's tons of other games that look way better than remaster here....so yeah
Not on the switch 🤨