If the cassette version of “It was Written” came out it would had been a classic because of the song “Silent Murder” That album came out a week after “Reasonable Doubt” and people liked it better. It was number #1 for 3 weeks on Billboard. Also “IWW” was the album 2pac was playing on his way to Vegas. He got the idea “Me and my girlfriend” from Nas “I Gave You Power”. Yall need me on there I get the conversation 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😆
People saying IWW was more commercial when it wasn't. The only commercial song was 'If I Ruled The World.' The rest of that album was for the streets. You got...Street Dreams, Take It In Blood, The Message, I Gave You Power, Shoot Outs, Watch Dem Nigg@s, Nas Is Coming, Affirmative Action, The Set Up, Live Nigg@ Rap, Suspect, Silent Murder. Black Girl Lost could've been another radio song but it didn't happen. Them songs were street classics, nothing commercial with cross over appeal. People are hating because Nas found a formula that worked.
Factz. I do think the album, sonically, was more "polished" than Illmatic was, which was a very grimy-sounding project. The Trackmasterz beats and the Dr. Dre beat were mixed and sounded cleaner than anything on Illmatic. Overall, you're right tho. The actual content is hard, grimey and a conceptual on IWW. There's no bubblegum records on the album. Even "If I Ruled The World," Nas was still talking about making girls go "downtown," opening every cell in Attica, and having non-stepped on coke 😂😂😂
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un Exactly! Even that song was for the hood. Look at what Nas said...'Imagine smoking weed in the streets without cops harassing.' That actually came into fruition.
@TheRapRoundtable I respectfully disagree. Biggie came out street but had those obvious commercial songs because of Puff. People heard IWW and knew that it wasn't that radio friendly. I think the hate came because that project was mainly produced by Track Masters as opposed to the producers on Illmatic.
Em was referring to the list HE was #5 on - which is the billboard list - The 4 rappers ahead of him was #4 PAC (deceased), #3 Nas, #2 Kendrick, #1 Jay-Z.
There was too much competition when “ it was written” was released. I was a kid but BadBoy and others had everything on lock. The Fugees too. So many 1996
Thats fact Nas is first one who talked about 50 years of hiphop and his 50 birthday and thats main point where he “wake up” og’s Everybody started to create events and shows for hh50 Now many legends like Common, Pete Rock, AZ, Ghostface, LL Cool they droppin albums
“It Was Written” also reached occult mythical status because of my favorite song on the album “Silent Murder” which you could only get on the tape in a time where cd’s we’re taking over!
I think Em sees him and Jay in Kendrick and Drake and its got him inspired. Just the way Kendrick technically rapped circles around Drake, Em would do the same to Hov yesterday and today.
@@jamaaldavis7907 he clowned canibus whose a well respected emcee and was the reason ja rule don’t have a career now. 50 keep his foot on his neck sure but Em murked him lyrically
12:48 Em has sent shots at Jay before on Seduction from Recovery. Those were more direct as the whole song was aimed at Jay after Em was name dropped on A Star Is Born
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Em battling resume includes Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, MGK Insane Clown Posee, Everlast, Canibus and Melle Mel. I do not count Ja Rule .. he came and piled on at the end. AND the fact that Em was battling female pop stars instead of real comp says it all. And he actually lost to MGK and Mariah Carey.
YOD is cool. Music can be a bit boring. But when I want some beats and some ill bars then yep, he delivers. In fact his bar work is inventive and prolific.
Game used Ems name for clout because he had an album coming out. Why would Em waste a full diss track on him. His album flopped big time and he disappeared again.
Em is a complete fraud. What proof we have Em would beat any top emcee? He battled his momma and female pop stars mostly .. Em is Houdini .. he ran a bunch of magic tricks since he started..
@@raulgrijalva16 yet he will make those same sonic mistakes over and over again, album after album. Plus he hasn't been very creative when it comes to the concepts of his songs since MMLP2 basically. I honestly lost hope for Eminem, he sounds washed out nowadays
Em is talking to Kendrick... they did a song on Marshal Mathers 2 i think... cool song.. they were sparring em had two verses kendrick one... Kendrick is taking his spots on a lot of lists.
@@__D-B__ u think both of them being signed to the same label matters at this point? plus Em dissed Snoop on his last album. Game and 50 beefed while signed to Dre.
@@__D-B__ I really think em just being competitive. If he is taking shots at Kendrick jay z and Nas its hip hop at the end of the day. We need that friendly competitive spirit to come back.
EM did not diss Jay Z. EM dissed Billboard for their ranking. They had EM at #5, Nas #3 and Jayz #1. EM did a song with both Jay and Nas. Why is every UA-cam Channel saying EM dissed Jay but glossing over that he may have dissed Nas too. I'm convinced all these hip-hop reactors have a morning meeting like they do at Walmart to discuss what headlines they're running with. Because no way every Hiphop youtuber organically came up with the same thought that EM dissed Jay Z and not one of them is mentioning Nas. Either they all forgot about EPMD 2 or thought Nas got EM.
If Em is dissing Jayz it's clout chasing, since he is so eager to battle go respond to the scathing diss GAME dropped on your head a real Battle MC.. I want to see Jayz make good music and catch up with what Nas been doing, not battle marshall.. In reference to cloth talk theres different degrees in fabrics, it's a different from the "butter-soft shit and the leather on the fonz".. With that said, Em is a Polyester blend.. thats still cloth tho..
@Myhandle718 If jayz comes outside, I want to hear a body of work, not an Eminem diss song.. Bodies of work the way Nas has been putting out for thirty years and matters every time..
@@Myhandle718 Jay won’t be doing what Nas did, and he won’t be battling Em either. He’s washed and afraid to come outside. 😂 When it mattered. It always matters when you claim to be the GOAT.
You completely missed the point. He's dissing Jay because a lot people have him at #1. Game used Ems name for clout because he had an album coming out. Why would Em waste a full diss track on him, Games album flopped and he disappeared again. He just done an interview recently saying Em is still one if the best mc's to ever do it. He was clearly using Ems name to get attention on his album.
Against who though? There are people who feel he lost to MGK and he didn’t bother responding to The Game so who are these people that Em has a track record of flaming? Limp biscuit? Moby? Benzino? Nick Cannon?
@@terrelltorry800 ppl tried to say MGK won purely out of the dislike towards Eminem . " Your beard is weird " ain't a killshot . No pun intended. Eminem dislike is clouding ppl from giving an honest opinion on the guy . But pen wise . He's still lethal . And no I don't think he lost against mgk
Why do people do this with Nas. They will say things like It was written is better than Illmatic. Lol it’s just weird. Nobody says Blueprint is better than Reasonable Doubt. It’s just weird. Not talking y’all. Just people in general
Kendrick is not that lethal. To me he holds this myth thats become bigger than what he actually is. Just like Dre. Yall not ready for that convo. He did ait against Drake. The fans who hate Drake turned the song into something bigger than what it is not only because support for Kendrick but mostly coz of their hate for Drake and praying on his downfall.
Food and liquor And The Cool are two certified hip-hop classic albums.. Lupe isn't just some great rapper, hes a phenomenal songwriter and culture, influencing and shifting artists.. better than Kendrick especially Lyrically , but Kendrick is slightly a better song maker, slightly.. this is the REAL Battle..
I think Kendrick is more than a SLIGHTLY better songwriter than Lupe. He's significantly better. I agree with you on Lupe being better than him lyrically. Lupe is ridiculous. He's in my top 5 along with Kendrick.
@@jamaaldavis7907 nah I f@ck with Lupes catalogue heavy..Food and Liquor one of my all time..but the 3 album run Kenny went on..Lupes 3 run don't match. I agree Kenny more appealing commercially..but also I always felt Kendrick had the streets element Lupe lacked ..just my opinion
If the cassette version of “It was Written” came out it would had been a classic because of the song “Silent Murder” That album came out a week after “Reasonable Doubt” and people liked it better. It was number #1 for 3 weeks on Billboard. Also “IWW” was the album 2pac was playing on his way to Vegas. He got the idea “Me and my girlfriend” from Nas “I Gave You Power”. Yall need me on there I get the conversation 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😆
Silent Murder was on all formats (cd, vinyl and tape) on the European version. And it wasn't a bonus track.
Facts
@@bolder2009silent murder wasn't om all cd versions....lies...only overseas version
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@@jamaaldavis7907He said all formats of the European version.
People saying IWW was more commercial when it wasn't. The only commercial song was 'If I Ruled The World.' The rest of that album was for the streets. You got...Street Dreams, Take It In Blood, The Message, I Gave You Power, Shoot Outs, Watch Dem Nigg@s, Nas Is Coming, Affirmative Action, The Set Up, Live Nigg@ Rap, Suspect, Silent Murder. Black Girl Lost could've been another radio song but it didn't happen. Them songs were street classics, nothing commercial with cross over appeal. People are hating because Nas found a formula that worked.
They also didn’t know any better at the time. Not necessarily hate.
Factz. I do think the album, sonically, was more "polished" than Illmatic was, which was a very grimy-sounding project. The Trackmasterz beats and the Dr. Dre beat were mixed and sounded cleaner than anything on Illmatic. Overall, you're right tho. The actual content is hard, grimey and a conceptual on IWW. There's no bubblegum records on the album. Even "If I Ruled The World," Nas was still talking about making girls go "downtown," opening every cell in Attica, and having non-stepped on coke 😂😂😂
@@MichaelBrown-ti1un Exactly! Even that song was for the hood. Look at what Nas said...'Imagine smoking weed in the streets without cops harassing.' That actually came into fruition.
@TheRapRoundtable I respectfully disagree. Biggie came out street but had those obvious commercial songs because of Puff. People heard IWW and knew that it wasn't that radio friendly. I think the hate came because that project was mainly produced by Track Masters as opposed to the producers on Illmatic.
It Was Written was an in awe moment. Never heard a rapper so flawless on record. This was Leonardo Da Vinci in the renaissance shit was mind blowing.
Em was referring to the list HE was #5 on - which is the billboard list - The 4 rappers ahead of him was #4 PAC (deceased), #3 Nas, #2 Kendrick, #1 Jay-Z.
Love that you guys reviewed the Lupe album. Palaces is the best track on there. I'm enjoying that album.
Masito making some strong arguments
There was too much competition when “ it was written” was released. I was a kid but BadBoy and others had everything on lock. The Fugees too. So many 1996
Did Nas wake up the legends maje them want to rhyme again after dropping 6 albums
Thats fact Nas is first one who talked about 50 years of hiphop and his 50 birthday and thats main point where he “wake up” og’s
Everybody started to create events and shows for hh50
Now many legends like Common, Pete Rock, AZ, Ghostface, LL Cool they droppin albums
Keep the cloth talk coming! It’s an important question
Why no time stamps
I agree with Jarv’s take about Lupe towards Kendrick. Would be a great convo to hear from you guys. Great episode and you’re a great host Jarv.
It Was Written is a great follow-up but Ice Cube and N.W.A. both had great follow-up LP albums to classics.
Samurai is 🔥🔥!
“It Was Written” also reached occult mythical status because of my favorite song on the album “Silent Murder” which you could only get on the tape in a time where cd’s we’re taking over!
The cloth should be a whole recurring segment
I think Em sees him and Jay in Kendrick and Drake and its got him inspired. Just the way Kendrick technically rapped circles around Drake, Em would do the same to Hov yesterday and today.
Kendrick Lamar all day over ‘Eminem. Kendrick will destroy him. Come on let’s be real.
3 months ago I would have disagreed, but goodness gracious lol
@@brandonsloan155not a kendrick lover..bit destroys em..let's stop😂😂
kendrick wins one rap battle now all of sudden he destroying Em?
@@UniVS427 wat real battles em won..🤣🤣🤣
@@jamaaldavis7907 he clowned canibus whose a well respected emcee and was the reason ja rule don’t have a career now. 50 keep his foot on his neck sure but Em murked him lyrically
12:48 Em has sent shots at Jay before on Seduction from Recovery. Those were more direct as the whole song was aimed at Jay after Em was name dropped on A Star Is Born
Cin you’re right about 8 mile gassing ems battle skill up. That’s where it comes from
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Eminem earned to be part of that cloth. From battling to. Creating records
Em battling resume includes Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, MGK Insane Clown Posee, Everlast, Canibus and Melle Mel. I do not count Ja Rule .. he came and piled on at the end. AND the fact that Em was battling female pop stars instead of real comp says it all. And he actually lost to MGK and Mariah Carey.
Em's diss records is where that notion comes from, not his opponents. Listen to Quitter.
If i get diss by Kdot, i feel ashamed (feel like poking fun of me)
If i get diss by Em, i feel hurt (his cold word)
I think Deeni got a good take on the em dissing subject
Gangsta a fool got me crying 😂😂all four of them come out with them birdman lugz that would be real real monumental 😂😂😂😂😂
Em last album Fire!
YOD is cool. Music can be a bit boring. But when I want some beats and some ill bars then yep, he delivers. In fact his bar work is inventive and prolific.
We need a iww documentary ASAP
Em has ran from The Game
Nah he didn't that song was butt and game is my favorite not anymore that was a clout chasing disappointment 😢
He didn’t run away he walked away, there’s a difference. I thought he should have replied myself but it’s whatever.
Ran like a hoe
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Game used Ems name for clout because he had an album coming out. Why would Em waste a full diss track on him. His album flopped big time and he disappeared again.
Rick Ross just did the same thing Em did, which was correct: ignored The Game.
I do wish Nas performed more songs off IWW. Live Nigga Rap and Take It In Blood
Two classic records for sure ..
I bet em shooting on behalf of 50, somewhat. Won’t be surprised
Love Kendrick… I’m from the west coast.. but we talking about Eminem bruh. Im not sure k dot got it in the bag.. it would be close
Em is a complete fraud. What proof we have Em would beat any top emcee? He battled his momma and female pop stars mostly .. Em is Houdini .. he ran a bunch of magic tricks since he started..
If Eminem only had better production on his albums.
Thank you his production has held him back along with his hook game
@@raulgrijalva16 yet he will make those same sonic mistakes over and over again, album after album. Plus he hasn't been very creative when it comes to the concepts of his songs since MMLP2 basically. I honestly lost hope for Eminem, he sounds washed out nowadays
If only Em was dedicated on making good songs
Em is talking to Kendrick... they did a song on Marshal Mathers 2 i think... cool song.. they were sparring em had two verses kendrick one...
Kendrick is taking his spots on a lot of lists.
Em and Kendrick are both with Dre, they aren't looking to beef with each other. Em was talking about Jay.
@@__D-B__ u think both of them being signed to the same label matters at this point? plus Em dissed Snoop on his last album. Game and 50 beefed while signed to Dre.
@@UniVS427 Snoop was taking shots at Em, that's by Em dissed him. I just don't think Em and Kendrick are looking to beef with each other right now.
@@UniVS427 He might be aiming it at Kendrick, but I think it's more towards Jay.
@@__D-B__ I really think em just being competitive. If he is taking shots at Kendrick jay z and Nas its hip hop at the end of the day. We need that friendly competitive spirit to come back.
EM did not diss Jay Z. EM dissed Billboard for their ranking. They had EM at #5, Nas #3 and Jayz #1. EM did a song with both Jay and Nas. Why is every UA-cam Channel saying EM dissed Jay but glossing over that he may have dissed Nas too. I'm convinced all these hip-hop reactors have a morning meeting like they do at Walmart to discuss what headlines they're running with. Because no way every Hiphop youtuber organically came up with the same thought that EM dissed Jay Z and not one of them is mentioning Nas. Either they all forgot about EPMD 2 or thought Nas got EM.
If Em is dissing Jayz it's clout chasing, since he is so eager to battle go respond to the scathing diss GAME dropped on your head a real Battle MC.. I want to see Jayz make good music and catch up with what Nas been doing, not battle marshall..
In reference to cloth talk theres different degrees in fabrics, it's a different from the "butter-soft shit and the leather on the fonz".. With that said, Em is a Polyester blend.. thats still cloth tho..
Catch up with Nas?? Jay Z don’t need to do what Nas did. Jay Z did that when it mattered.
@Myhandle718 If jayz comes outside, I want to hear a body of work, not an Eminem diss song..
Bodies of work the way Nas has been putting out for thirty years and matters every time..
@@Myhandle718 Jay won’t be doing what Nas did, and he won’t be battling Em either. He’s washed and afraid to come outside. 😂 When it mattered. It always matters when you claim to be the GOAT.
You completely missed the point. He's dissing Jay because a lot people have him at #1. Game used Ems name for clout because he had an album coming out. Why would Em waste a full diss track on him, Games album flopped and he disappeared again. He just done an interview recently saying Em is still one if the best mc's to ever do it. He was clearly using Ems name to get attention on his album.
@__D-B__ Eminem likes to shoot Caged deer, he doesn't want it with a real Warrior Like Game, You talking about record sales..
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Damn yall don't like the Meg? Yall don't like the King Crooked and Joell Oriz album. Yall lacking out here.
Who is Droog? They keep glossing over that name like it’s a household name. “Yeah I saw Droog” tf?
He opened for Pharoahe 😅. I didn't know who he was either but he had bars and presence.
@@1FanofTHEECOSYSTEM he’s the guy who sounds a bit like Nas
As a Nas Stan. The sane ones would not put Eminem over Jay 😂.
Def not 😂😂
Anybody saying Kendrick easily smoking Eminem is on crack . Eminem music might not be as good these days but his pen can still go
Against who though? There are people who feel he lost to MGK and he didn’t bother responding to The Game so who are these people that Em has a track record of flaming? Limp biscuit? Moby? Benzino? Nick Cannon?
@@terrelltorry800 ppl tried to say MGK won purely out of the dislike towards Eminem . " Your beard is weird " ain't a killshot . No pun intended. Eminem dislike is clouding ppl from giving an honest opinion on the guy . But pen wise . He's still lethal . And no I don't think he lost against mgk
How can this be a question..Kendrick say Eminem inspired him...Eminem would destroy K dot
Why do people do this with Nas. They will say things like It was written is better than Illmatic. Lol it’s just weird. Nobody says Blueprint is better than Reasonable Doubt. It’s just weird. Not talking y’all. Just people in general
It was written is lyrically better then illmatic.
@@humblebragger500🎯🎯🎯
Kendrick is not that lethal. To me he holds this myth thats become bigger than what he actually is. Just like Dre. Yall not ready for that convo. He did ait against Drake. The fans who hate Drake turned the song into something bigger than what it is not only because support for Kendrick but mostly coz of their hate for Drake and praying on his downfall.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😭
Get the hate out of your heart
Food and liquor And The Cool are two certified hip-hop classic albums.. Lupe isn't just some great rapper, hes a phenomenal songwriter and culture, influencing and shifting artists.. better than Kendrick especially Lyrically , but Kendrick is slightly a better song maker, slightly.. this is the REAL Battle..
I think Kendrick is more than a SLIGHTLY better songwriter than Lupe. He's significantly better. I agree with you on Lupe being better than him lyrically. Lupe is ridiculous. He's in my top 5 along with Kendrick.
@GetDaCookie What song in Kendrick catalog would you put up against American Terrorist?
Half of Kendrick's catalog and Lupe is my favorite rapper.@Daconcast
Lupe washes Kendrick lyrically..but definitely not the better artist and Catalogue
Lu washes alotta people lyrically....Kendrick mo appealing due to the majors......lupe got a catalog....let's stop😂
@@jamaaldavis7907 nah I f@ck with Lupes catalogue heavy..Food and Liquor one of my all time..but the 3 album run Kenny went on..Lupes 3 run don't match. I agree Kenny more appealing commercially..but also I always felt Kendrick had the streets element Lupe lacked ..just my opinion
@@rainmaker1169 the cool & Tetsuo & youth > food n liquor imo..
@@rainmaker1169 den he still got drogas wave...drill music in zion & samuri...cmon ..we talking catalogs
@@rainmaker1169 n food n liquor 2 got sum gems as well