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I see Apocalypse and I click the video fast. 👍🏾
That makes two(2) of us! 🤣
It would be fantastic if someone made a movie with Apocalypse and do him justice! 🤞🤞
@@Age_of_Apocalypse yeah cool to see someone else like Apocalypse too. Really would like for them to make a movie and yes please do him justice.
Honestly I thought he was gonna be talked about more but it was literally 2 minutes worth. The title is mis-leading.
@@thephilosopher7173 " The title is mis-leading." Very misleading! 😢
Facts, all hail Lord Apocalypse
Kang fighting Venom and Apoc in the same week? Seems like they're elevating the character into a spotlight.
Kang never fought Apocalypse in this vidio. Why lie to such measure?
I believe Apocalypse just had more tecnology than this Kang so is indeed a "versus".
13:48
“Though I imagine you guys guessed who that person is, one of the greatest comic book characters of all time, whom I absolutely love”
Aw hell yeah Kang vs Captain Carrot finna be lit coming up soon!!!
“Captain Carrot! I love Captain Carrot! He’s a super bunny!”
- Rob
I thought that too...
Can you imagine: Rob, in a room with an issue of "DCvMarvel: Capt. Carrot Meets En Saba Nur- Garden of Apocalypse!" (yes i just made that up) and deciding whether to buy it and read it at home, or read it and then buy it........
...and yes I do agree apocalypse has been underplayed as a true formidable and respectful opponent
Which is most likely never going to change sadly, since the writers essentially wrote themself into a corner with him. On paper, he and his powers are without equal short of anyone who is capable of large scale reality-warping. He would essentially stomp 99% of characters that go against him, which is why he has to be nerfed into the ground or confronted with impenetrable plot armor. Super cool character all in all, but he does not work at all in the context of a superhero universe that is dominated by comic tropes.
@@vahlen5281 well inconsistent writing is a bitch Apocalypse deserves better 😤
Apocalypse and Dr.Doom are my absolute 2 favorite fictional characters.
I know Kang is a big threat and all, but I can't help but think that, from what this series is showing, Kang has a long career of punching upwards.
he’s not a villain, he’s like loki 👀
This story is pretty much an origin story.
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Ur like everywhere I go u have great taste my guy
Sure he's always punching up but he's also usually punching himself...
Such a great character. Complex and forever changing. Thanks Robcore!
Bane : No one cared who i was until i put on the mask
Apocalypse : I know the feeling bro....
At some point you have to wonder if Kang has enough free will to be evil. Time traveling to kidnap your past self so that a middle version of you could mind control the one you kidnapped is just a mess.
Kang stories are essentially an endless chain of chicken/egg guessing. Which one came first? Which one caused the creation of which other one? What happens when you get all the Kang variants in one room together? Who knows?!
And how is a Stark descendant purple colored, or whatever? The MCU already cucked out on that one, making him a deranged, blk, wannabe Tony..
If you look at Kang's mask it really looks heavily influenced by Apocalypse lines in his own natural face. So this way every time Kang travels with that blue lined face everyone knows he is not to be trifled with.
It's also the same lines that were painted on his face to mark him a warrior in the previous video.
He looks like he ripped off "The Living Tribunal" ,stole one of his outfits and welded the other two face slots of his helmet with a Mexican wrestling mask..
The MCU NEEDS to incorporate Apoc into the greater story and FINALLY DO HIM JUSTICE! HE NEEDS TO BE A THANOS LEVEL THREAT!!
No doubt 👍
I won't say Thanos level...more like Dr Doom level
Apocalypse is more than able of being a Thanos level threat. He is immortal.
@@jaspermann9447 Thanos is a universal threat due to his intellect and power. Not once has Apocalypse become thee most powerful in the universe with help or by his self. Never has Apocalypse fought, capture or held his own against Odin, Tyrant and Galactus. Thanos has. Obtained the Cosmic Cube and Infinity Gems. I like Apocalypse...but he is not on Thanos level.
@@shadymaestro As far as feats are concerned Thanos simply has more story Arcs and development..
Apocalypse was purposefully left ambiguous and writers where told to explore him very sparingly..
Nur would also Spank Thanos..💯
That pause for people don't like Apocalypse... Until he became Apocalypse almost triggered me hahaha I'm like he's my favorite Xmen villain along with Sinister ( and I can have a top 25 and still be hard to pick ) I love Magneto, Omega Red, Nimrod, Juggernaut etc... But those 2 always hooked me especially in Xmen TAS. Apocalypse should get a boost and make him OP.
When rob said one of the greatest characters of all time and one he loves am I the only one who thought of captain carrot the super bunny. 😂. 🥕🐰
*"never love.. Lest you be conquered"*
Think I'll add this to my book of wisdom.
Thats sociopathic and psychotic. Don't add it. Many "greats" in history past and present thinks this way.
Kang is dope... but just a little too powerful. And I love me some En Sabah Nur. I think Kang takes this but personally I pick Apocalypse.
"You know who it is. One of the greatest characters of all time"
Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers?!
Apocalypse needs to be way mors OP. Apocalypse should be a stepping stone for anyone.
According to apocalypse's origin comic series, Kang is partially responsible for creating the apocalypse we all know and love.
If you're an immortal _human_ then your physical brain can only hold a few centuries - I think 500 years is the upper limit maybe - worth of memories. As old ones fade they get overwritten. That's why Kang said you can be different people yet not remember it. Dr. Who touched on this with one character (played by Maisie Williams) that was accidentally made immortal and started keeping journals, ending up with an enormous library at the end of time, full of all her memories so she could look them up. In other settings this is typically augmented with technology or magic so that you have, effectively, more hard drive space.
Nice
Funny because in real life before God shorten human life, nobody had and issues remembering anything past 500 years at 900 or 920 something
Objetively speaking, one can read an entire library with how much we have on life (around 100 years of life lets say).
So i would think the library could be a lot more than "enormous". And about hard drive space, we could totally buy the last grapic card and have a 2k gb ram (wich im using just 16gb and most people use no more than 32gb) to be able to read smoothly tru all hard drive available on universe.
Tecnologically speaking we already have the skill to archive all the data on the world within a computer.
Sick match-up. My money is on Apocalypse, but I'm wrong about almost everything, every single day.
Top 20 most powerful DC characters hierarchy please!
I would want to see him win, just to see one of the most powerful mutant villains win for a change.
Kang literally went back to Egypt to recruit Apocalypse when he was a baby so he could raise him and use him to take over the world. That should answer you that Kang stands no chance against Apocalypse.
I also make the wrong choice every time no matter what ....preach
Am I the only one that believes Apocalypse deserves to have his origin and storyline tweaked to allow him to become more formidable? Like, he believes in the strongest survive, so why not give him the ability and intellect to apply this belief throughout the universe/multiverse? I believe it would work; it just takes some form of new understanding of celestial technology and an ability to implement it, and the knowledge.
Mthoughts?
Marvel has never liked having their villians develop a real hierarchy. DC has no problem with say black adam running into ultraman but marvel likes to keep their villians separate so they don't have to show villian hierarchy. Doing that to apocalypse would put him on the radar of someone like thanos. And they will never do that. Notice how you never seen doom run into apocalypse either.
I think giving Apocalypse universal/multiversal power would just make him another Thanos.
The thing is both of them are like a brand of some sorts. Marvel wants both of them to be seen as this feared character. If you put them against each other, most likely one is going to lose and that would diminish the sense of “power” that character has.
It’s like the Fast and Furious where Vin Diesel and The Rock have calculated fight scenes apparently and there always doesn’t seem to be a clear winner in their fights. Apparently it’s the protect their brands. No one wants to be seen as the loser in the movie since both of their characters are known to be this badass macho guy (ironically accepting defeat is considered much more honorable). There is a UA-cam video out there explaining this and it’s actually quite interesting.
I think it applies to Apocalypse and Thanos too. Both are known to be this badass super powerful character and Marvel would hate to have one of them seen as a loser to the other Big Bad.
I think it’s also why we didn’t get to see Apocalypse and Thanos fight 1 on 1 in the Secret Wars storyline.
@@MM-hf6om I don’t think marvel would need to utilize this new found power and understanding into a hierarchy, just adding another universal presence that pulls strings and manipulates life through war and strife. I think it can be done without including Thanos or having either be defeated. Comics have dozens of bad guys that don’t meet except for special storylines and a lot of time the instances they do meet, there isn’t an actual fight on panel, or a clear winner.
@@MM-hf6om Fun fact: Thanos is confirmed to have tabs running on Apocalypse.
Just a head cannon head up for you Shannon. Even tho mutants & x men all have strong,unique, & sometimes even buster powers the whole comic and mutants are considered c- b tier heroes/metahumans in marvel(not my words it came from the creators themselves). There is a reason why mutants were always sidelined in the MU. For example magneto we’re to attack NY, they not callin the avengers or even the f4. They would give the task to Spider-Man to clean up lol wit the help of some x men. Like black widow would be offended if she had that mission yet mags out classes her in power
Beyond omega level: icon from dc
Man I've watched your videos for awhile, but this Kang series is the first non full story. Now I'm hooked and gotta wait for the next one. Dangit.
The book is amazing
@@jacobharris954 I can honestly say I've never read a comic book. I'm too intimidated on where to start.
Beyond Omega Level: Magus
Beyond Omega Level: The Fallen One
Beyond Omega Level: Adam Eve
Beyond Omega Level: Icon
Beyond Omega Level: Tala
Beyond Omega Level: Squirrel Girl
Beyond Omega Level: Captain Marvel
Beyond Omega Level: Kalibak
Beyond Omega Level: Vnn
Beyond Omega Level: Amazo
Beyond Omega Level: Grail
Beyond Omega Level: The Utopian
Beyond Omega Level: Highfather
Beyond Omega Level: Circe
Beyond Omega Level: Serpent (Cul Borson)
Beyond Omega Level: D'Spayre
Beyond Omega Level: Griever at the End of All Things
No matter what,I'll always come back for Apocalypse...
Question(s): Is there a Kang that never became a 'conqueror'? What I mean is there a possibility or reality where Kang was always defeated. No victories whatsoever? Not just a villain or anti-villain [Immortus]- a being no matter where in time, whether he was a boy, a man, a scientist, where no matter the circumstance he always failed? Could this lonesome individual become jealous of his other selves and begin a crusade against them? Throwing a wrench in the other Kang's machinations, over the timescape. What if the other Knags never knew this and always chalked up their failures to poor planning?
They also made a number of Ghost riders the Ghost Rider on the horse then Johnny blaze and catch Hell I personally like the book where it was starring both Dan catch and Johnny blaze as Ghost riders but somehow they weren't demons but angels I really remember that story just can't remember who wrote it LOL
Some versions of Kang becomes Immortus.
From what i have understand Ravonna is from the future, she was splintered after she died in order 2 save her and the Moon Knight version is 1 of the splinters.
Wait doesn't this version of Rama-Tut come before all versions of Kang, Immortus and Scarlet Centurion, although a version of Kang becomes a (diff version off) Rama-Tut. Iron Lad becomes Kid Immortus who becomes Rama-Tut.
That’s what I was confused on when watching this video. Rob says that basically if Rama Tut killed Nathaniel, that Nathaniel might never become Kang and Kang might never travel back in time and become Rama Tut. This confused me because I thought Nathaniel traveled back in time and became Rama Tut, and then became Kang in the distant future after being defeated by the Fantastic Four.
@@dakotatrue12 Time travel can get wonky, especially after retcons.
The character of Kang has a long history of letting things involving him get out of hand.
All too human. 😉
Kang is confusing he messes with his own existence, a rare character who intentionally seeks out versions of himself to better and ad set outs to foil none other than himself.
The best part of this was Apocalypse he is where he belongs even though it can be said he possess technology far beyond its era he does not care about the multiverse.
I would like at least one cohesive and definitive life and times of En Sabah Nur that is totally his story not some other timeless mutant or traveler.
Rob, when are we getting more ThorHulk vs HulkThor? That is legit one of the coolest things I've seen in a minute. Donny Cates for the win man. Please Rob please.
the next issue doesn't come out until august 17th, idk why it got pushed back again
@@IsThatNas oh dang, I didn't know that. Thank you for the information.
“One of the greatest characters of all times…one whom I absolutely love….black bolt….jk black bolt sucks”
I was waiting for this 😂
F U fake Rob
I hate that the comics are being used for the MCU, instead of MCU forming around the comics.
Marvel is going FULL KINGDOM HEARTS TIMELINE!!!
Down with anything apocalypse!!! Kang is like a footnote to me on this story
So wth, last two minutes you talk about Apocalypse.
Revonna Renslayer, Moon Knight: "Khonshu gave me your name."
Khonshu: "A traveler of the name of "Richards" will arrive at a time from time to help us in our venture to drive out the false god."
Nathaniel Richards: "Uh... I think that he was talking about Reed Richards."
Apocalypse is my favorite villain of all time!!!!
In total agreement, Gorr charter is a middle finger to Fans of comics. Since we were the reason that gave our love and support of this New Genre of Movies 🎬. They don't deserve our Support or Money...💰 🤑
Rob maybe Kang vs Apocalypse could be the introduction of the xmen due to both (xmen and kang) of their history with Apocalypse 🤷🏾♂️
lol your explanation makes wolverine even more unkillable. i.e. Age of ultron. And by association Sue Richards and certain avengers.
i want to order the comics. but, i'd like to make sure im ordering the correct ones. this is the series by Jackson Lanzing, Collin Kelly correct?
Anytime Rob teases a character he absolutely loves, my first thought is always "How or why the hell would Cpt. Carrot be in this?"
I take it that the tragedy of Kang is that despite his machinations and how far ahead he thinks or how many time he tries for the perfect plan, it always is just going to fail.
Kang the conquer’s life is like a pine cone, it’s got a core and the pine flakes generally grow upward, but also in a different direction. So diagonally spiraling around the core
I implore you O Fearless Leader 'PHONE BOOK EXPLAINED'
Kangs green wool knitted coat , sweater thing makes it very hard to take him seriously lol
This got me to read the whole series. I'm not sure I like all this was done over a girl he barely knew. Kinda pathetic
Kang cool and all but with guys like gorr and null looming out their its a lil hard to get excited for Kang for me
_I am the rocks in the eternal shore... Crash into me and be broken!_
~En Sabah Nur 😈
I think you misunderstand the thing about remembering her parents and having doubts that they ever existed. She’s saying that if her parents only exist in her memories, how can she be sure they ever existed at all? A memory is not the object of the memory itself. It’s just a recollection of a moment from a single perspective.
We're more advanced than ancient Egypt?... Awesome
13:45 I'm sitting here thinking "what is captain carrot doing in this comic? How is he pulling all the strings?"
Video with Apocalypse in the thumbnail, clicked
I love Apocalypse, he should be way more powerful than he is but via plot convenience or comical ineptitude he's just a jobber. Ineptitude on the part of Apocalypse or Marvel's writers? Both.
I blame writers for that
Are u ever gonna do X-Men Red and Immortal X-Men ?
11:10 Yeah!!! Called it last video!! LMAO I'm like this has to be IronLad or the world's Nicest Kang Ever 🤣😂🤣😂
Hey Rob, just to let you know tmnt the last ronin is finished.
This is what season 2 of X-men 97 will be about.
When Rob went on that tangent talking about everybody came from Kang it's a reverse flash I was waiting to hear reverse flash came from Kang. 🤣
Kang has quantum immortality awesome.
I really hope Apocalypse gets his due as a BBEG in the MCU eventually
"Time travel...it's tricky business"
Brightburn Request👿 Beyond Omega Level: Kulan Gath!
Nimrod vs apocalypse was underwhelming
Extremely that should have been a full issue of battle and I honestly think Apocalypse should have won.
hey Rob man can you do universe x and paradise x
Dude, do u know any other words besides essentially and effectively? Like Jesus christ
@TEXT M.E ON TELE.GRAM👉@Rob_comics nope
Anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
Thanks but no thanks 🙂
Can you please cover Haunt from Image? It would be really helpful
There are 2 coherent (logically non-contradictory) consequences of time travel; solipsism and parallel worlds.
Solipsism is the idea that the time traveler is everything and everyone. In Robert A. Heinlein's story "All You Zombies" Heinlein's protagonist creates "himself" by going back in time and arranging for a sex changed version of himself to have sex with "himself" in order to have a baby him. In the end there is only one way this could work; if the protagonist is every character in this story not just "himself". Solipsism implies that variety, difference is an illusion. There are no other souls only one soul: the self created. Creating himself by creating everyone and everything. It's an icky but "coherent" theory. Coherent in the sense of mathematics. Mathematics is self-coherent: it is based on unprovable premises. In other words there are built in assumptions that can never be proven or verified, like Euclid's assertion that lines are made out of points. Points and lines don't exist outside of paper drawings. You cannot find them under a microscope, through a telescope, crossing the street; they are as tangible as Harry Potter or Bugs Bunny. They are assertions posing as facts: fake news, fiction. As a matter of coherency they make perfect sense, provided you believe in the premises. In the case of Euclid you believe there are things called points and that, somehow?, individual points join together to make lines. It is logical, it doesn't contradict itself, but it is non-empirical: it cannot be physically corroborated by the senses. Oh you can draw a line and a point, but have you ever seen a point or a series of points join together to make a line, actually seen it without it being drawn or depicted by someone else? If everyone believes it, like mass hysteria, is it real? Now ask yourself have you ever seen the number 2 or the letter A walking down the street? How about God? Jesus? George Washington? Your mom and dad? Mom and dad are real, just as real as George or Jesus because they can be independently corroborated - witnessed (not drawn) by others through the senses. When it comes to history: George and Jesus, it can get murky because the evidence of existence no longer relies on the actual people just on their legacies or, nowadays, dna. Math too has a legacy, so does Bugs, so do fairy tales and Aesop's fables. The real question of reality is why should we continue propagating the legacy? Unlike the sun 🌞 or the earth 🌎 do they provide continuous heat, light or sustenance? Or is their reality tied to the sustenance of the values they provide, values other than the law of the jungle?
As for parallel worlds good primers are Roger Zelazny's "9 princes in Amber" and Piers Anthony's "Split Infinity". Their major premise? That we can shift lanes, like in a highway, from one universe to another. But isn't that what consciousness already does? According to the writers a pretext is required. A pretext as plausible as any premise of math or figure of history or character of fiction. Plausible, but is it real?
You know things are about to take a turn when you hear " and encountered Dr doom ".
This is some convoluted stuff.
Man apocalypse is involved in almost everything Thor, Dracula, celestials
He literally is one of the founding members of the Order of the Shield alongside Inmohtep, Black Panther and Moon Knight. He has his hands on all Marvel history one way or another.
I think you misunderstand the thing about remembering her parents and having doubts that they ever existed. She’s saying that if her parents only exist in her memories, how can she be sure they ever existed at all? A memory is not the object of the memory itself. It’s just a recollection of a moment from a single perspective.
Can apocalypse defeat a celestial
Kang vs Apocalypse vs Khonshu next season on MOON KNIGHT would be awesome taking place in a flashback in ancient Egypt. Now with a match like this you would also have to include The Fantastic 4 and guess who else...........(?).................Cable the time traveling mutant, duhn-duhn-duuuhnnnn!
13:45 "Though I imagine, some of you guys have already guessed who that person is"
Yes Rob, you put him in the title and thumbnail
Kang has become Marvel's most interesting bad guy. Because of his power set you can always add to his back story
HEY ROB WHAT IF THE TEN RINGS IN SHANG CHI AND KAMALAS BANDS IN MS MARVEL ARE LEFT BEHIND WEAPONS KANG USED DURING HIS TIME HOPPPING ESCAPADES THROUOUT THE MCU. It would explain why no one can identify them in Shang chi because they are so advanced
Whoa whoa let's slow down, ancient people were less intelligent because they believed in gods...ok. What's not going to happen is I talk about reality. What IS going to happen is I say "But Rob? Aren't "gods" an actual, tangible classification/existence in the Marvel universe? Like there's no questions of faith it's just "who's that? Oh nobody important just Thor. As a matter of fact that reminds me! Let's go before he starts actually trying to talk to us, dude is such a showoff" 😳😒
Edit* if anything in the marvel universe humanity is weaker for not abandoning the gods and until the age of superheroes are somewhere between pathetic and screwed, just look at how other intelligent life forms AKA aliens view Earth. It's a backwater mud bowl meanwhile Asgard is so advanced the rainbow bridge still seems like magic instead of just "beam me up Scotty" "oh and make it look pretty, got to show off when you show up" 😑😒 😉😎
Any chance you can cover The Tick?
Gave you the thumbs down for you obvious bullshit click bait title.
How you gonna call this Kang vs. Apocalypse when you don't even mention Apocalypse until the last 30 seconds. Bad form my dude. Bad form.
blah blah blah click bait title
Can the REAL ROB Please stand UP. I believe I'm being SCAMMED in YOUR NAME. Please respond ASAP! They are asking for money????
I'm sorry, and don't get me wrong ..." Make mine marvel" ... But I've always felt the multiverse and kang have always felt like a Marvel Mcguffin when stories quit making sense, and when you consider the work Rob works his ass off to explain chit and it's still nonsense speaks volumes
Even with Branch Theory if you make a deep enough cut you run the risk of cutting down the entire tree
FELLOW ROBCORPIANS: Are we watching a video on the 2021 Kang series written by Jackson Lanzing, Collin Kelly ?
My thinking here is that the MCU is laying the groundwork for the story to happen. Explains why they release moonknight. Like who the hell even was moonknight. And how they even introduce the character of Ravona Rennslaer, especially that line at the end, where she says “to look for free will“. I really do think they’re probably going to Redcon her origin to be from ancient Egypt and essentially she was being kept hidden in the TVA, which is around outside of the council of Kang.
Writers need to stop ruining origin stories..... Building something in their image that they didn't create is just ego building. The company should put a stop to some of the things they do. Rewriting. Cultural switching either post or pre ..... to fit what ever agenda they have going.
With alternate universes. They exist due to people making different choices. Saying every Iron Lad has to be kang goes against the whole multiverse. Time travel is a mess no matter how they do it too. You can't die because of a loop. yet, then if you had to be iron lad. you can't advance past that time loop per their own logic of everyone became kang. Killing a future kang wanna be would not effect time line. They came from the future. Easy way to insert who you want into current books to replace others. It don't have to even make sense Just say "plucked out of time". Amazing we don't see exiles show up.
Over powered is lame. Thor bets them all. He is Zesus. He is Hades, he is Mars. Thor is more powerful than Odin. Hercules is a one off of Zeus beating Chronos. Only Thor is Zeus, Not Hercules . Hercules would be more of a gilgamesh type or even christ Noah type. Lame story twists. The real is better.
Yeah speaking of Umbrella Academy, me and my wife just finished the last 3 episodes all at once this past weekend. Good, just ended in a bit of a weird way, with the wife and everything.
Yeah but if Disney Marvel make Kang it will be a male female black & white pregnant unicorn
So Kings history doesn't matter anymore
I thought too that they changed Apocalypse's origin, one I actually like and works with the timeline with other characters that are connected. But in #3 they reset the timeline to what it originally was when this Iron Lad went back, killed and took the place of that Rama-Tut (Kang) and did things differently. This I believe reset the timeline to its original state, which I like over Apocalypse having the Celestial tech and ruling without being a slave and going through what he did to make him who he is.
*"I am: The Apocatits!"*
-Apocalypse, X-Men The Animated Series, Summer 1992..
When Ra speaks on the destruction Alien Sun as an analogy. Could he perhaps be talking about the destruction of Krypton?
LOL...looking at that old comic just reminds me of when even Africans were white to the "Modern World"
Hey, Rob, what did you mean by "it's pathetic cousin, regret"? Seize the moment kinda thing?
19:40 if I were in that position I would just test the theory of if killing him would kill me by just giving him a massive scar on my younger selfs shoulder then check myself to see if a suddenly gain a massive old fading scar on my shoulder