Yeeeah. CMON making sure retail copies of season 3 and 4 CDMD have been available since AUGUST, and US backers copies haven't even left China yet makes me far less likely to back them going forward. I don't mind retail arriving a few weeks early, but multiple months with no clear explanation as to why backer copies are nowhere to be seen is showing clear disrespect to the people that funded the project.
There is a seller on eBay selling 6 Siege product really cheap. When I messaged the seller, they said “we have the remainder of the inventory after sales and crowdfunding fulfillment in the USA and so many expansions as well as the base game” so it looks like mythic had enough product for everyone after all. But they make more money selling it to a reseller rather than shipping to backers that got screwed.
As much as I love ATO, I'm fearful they are going down a scary path. Launching a new KS with 2 outstanding ones is a huge red flag for me. I backed AT:TSOH in full and regret it later, so I kept the summer pledge and used the rest of the funds for the ATO expansions. I'll back for $1 and will wait to see if they deliver before putting any more money down, and I'll cross my fingers to get AT:TSOH someday.
I will take a look at Insania, when it launches. I don't need the big Godzilla, but I hope they include the normal, convention exclusive, one. I like DMD, even if they should have delivered the last one before starting a new campaign. I was curious about bardsung but disappointed. A lot of the Heroes are just resculpts of the first game.
I backed the OG Bardsung, and I've played a lot of it. I'm really excited about the latest iteration. You can tell they have taken all the negative comments of OG and thoughtfully addressed them in the new version. I also really like that they are fixing OG Bardsung and giving that "v2" to original backers for free.
Michael, I tremendously enjoy your in-depth reviews or discussions of just about anything. On the other hand, when you discuss a game and are positive about it based on the way it looks and the quality of the minis, without any consideration of the gameplay, I wonder what you are doing. i’m sure there are game players who are primarily interested in how the pieces and the minis look, but I think that most board game players really want to play good games. How can you mildly recommend a game without really the gameplay? You did this with the new Bardsung game in this video. Thanks, -Toby
As always I really appreciate the feedback. I don't recall everything I said in the video but I believe I did note the mildness of the previous game but that this game plays different and seems to be a more traditional dungeon crawler. Perhaps a bit light in mechanics, I often am balancing time in a game mode switch info available in a campaign. The most info is of course style/design with less on actual hard gameplay mechanics. I'll keep in mind then need to try and cover both more equally, which means removing some discussion on theme/style and adding more in mechanics.
@@TheKingofAverage I have learned an enormous amount from you about how to judge the quality of minis and how they can contribute to gameplay. Please do think twice about appearing to recommend that we keep an eye on a game when there's nothing to say about the game play. There's a related issue here, and it's an interesting one: You, and most of the many video people I follow who comment on games, are always talking about how just about every new game looks fabulous. Board games seem to be a field of art in which, every year (or sooner), artists figure out how to top what has come before. Having seen SO MANY GAMES THAT ARE EVEN MORE BEAUTIFUL, I have ceased to think of this as a recommendation; it's just the normal status quo. (And games that have adequate art find it hard to compete, unless they are terrific to play.) -toby
@tobyr21 oh totally agreed. We're not hurting for pretty games to play haha. And bad art is why I stay away from some games even, amazing how much it matters how something looks.
Strongly considering the Plague Throne game. Sitting on a nice pile of Super dongeon explore minis from the original game and the forrgotten king expansion/standalone. Shame Soda Pop games ended up as they did. @20:50 ish - Body type A and B is newspeak for male and female. If you want to avoid having drama about gender in your comment section
I just got AEONS Tresspass cycle 4 and 5. Absolutely gorgeous art. I flipped through and saw the end guy WOW. Also the Arabic Arabian themed Babylon is really cool with thewmactic mechanics
Your quote on Rumble Planet "I want the people backing it to be very safe with it." It took over 4 years for Ankama to deliver Arkeis, and it's full of half-assed components plus their customer service is horrible. Also, the developers went silent for over a year, leaving backers to assume it would not fulfill. Not a good look to promote their campaign without divulging the full info. 3D printing each mini will take forever when you consider that it likely takes 4+ hours per mini, and the quality will be lower than mass printing because it's plastic and not resin.
The Plague Throne is the one that is 3D printing the minis, and you can print multiple minis at a time and chibi ones like that would take a few hours each print yeah. As for Arkeis, I didn't feel they final product was bad at all, quite the opposite, I felt it was better than a lot of big name companies. They did take forever to deliver though! I also mentioned that it was late in the video which is why I provided my wish that I want people backing it to feel safe with it so I hope it funds well and isn't something that might not make enough, delaying delivery. This was not a promise that it is safe, but a "want" of mine for it to happen. Sorry for the confusion!
@@TheKingofAverage The cards in Arkeis are very thin. The trays don't hold all tokens. The trays sit at a weird slanted angle, and oddly enough, the slant is needed to avoid lid lift. The hero minis are average to below average quality. Some of the tokens are reused. The fake leather bag is trash. The cardboard box is thin. You should have mentioned that Ankama went completely silent for over a year after the campaign, and also that it was difficult to get them to replace broken/missing items during fulfillment. Also, several people still haven't received their pledge, some people were charged VAT twice, etc... and there's complete silence again from Ankama. Ankama is not a company with whom I will ever feel "safe."
Agreed and seconded, though this new campaign is thankfully not affiliated with them and is compatible. Good that a SD enthusiast has picked up the torch.
What are your thoughts on SHEOL these days? Was thinking about picking it up but it actually seems to be marked up quite a bit still on the secondary market. Worth the premium still or would you recommend something else for that itch at this point? Thank you 🙏🏼 love the videos!
I’m extremely disappointed that you didn’t use the opportunity to take a blowtorch to CMON. They have been severely delayed on DMD seasons 3/4, and their KS updates have been “we are booking containers to the US” since mid-August. Just 4 days ago they said they’ve got 1 of their 10 containers actually shipped and are somehow still booking the rest. Meanwhile, the two main boxes have been in retail for like 1.5 months now, somehow they found containers for those 🤔. And then the audacity to announce a new campaign. I’m way more lenient on CMON than you but even my patience is gone due to this.
@@TheKingofAverage I’m usually pretty patient but the stuff CMON has been saying has been ridiculous. They actually had the gull in the last update to say they were affected by the US port strikes.
They’ve also lied that some pledges were received in Australia but 99.9% certain it’s bullshit. We can handle delays but delays with no comms, then lies, product released months in advance to retail and then the fucking gall to say “please back our next campaign” Worst part is people do. Tonnes of grumbles yet weakness for plastic excess
They also haven't finished delivering marvel united multiverse. That delivery windows stretched over 7-8 months now. They have only just found that a whole bunch of UK pledges were sitting in a warehouse in China, and were never sent.
Screw CMON. They haven’t even shipped Season 3 and 4 of CDMD to backers despite it being available in retail for months. Now they want to market the next expansion. Very hard pass! I am never backing their games again.
CMON is the EA of board games. All they care about is making money, and they milk the shit out of every franchise they have. They also jump at any chance they get to milk money off of fans. I have avoided CMON campaigns, and my life and boardgame hobby is still somehow very fulfilling...
Great question! Not yet anyway but it's certainly something I'm monitoring. I'd like to see one more delivery before Enormity. They do seem to be doing a lot, but it's not something that can infinitely grow either. There is a limit somewhere where more deliveries need to be made.
I was also really looking forward to enormity, until people pointed out in the comments that ITU basically have 2 entire kickstarters that are undelivered, and this will be a third live, all at the same time. ITU really havent explained why they are throwing yet more unfinished work on the pile, or if theyre running out of funds for the first 2 etc. I really like ATO, and think its one of the great games only possible with kickstarter etc, and have the fanboy urge to insta back. Its just a bit worrying from the financial standpoint. I really wish they could address this fact directly, rather than pretending its not a factor.
Not one mention on the outrageous prices of the pledges in The Plague Throne. $150 for the base pledge that has standees and only 5 minis? $15 for an extra mini and $40 for expansions with 3 minis. How can you not be outraged at the prices? You used to rip overpriced campaigns like this apart. Most campaign base pledges average $120 and have 40+ minis. What can possibly make this worth backing?
Hello King, thank you for your new video and the overview! And I just wanted to remind you about Masters of the Universe / Patron. 😄🙏 Thank you very much!
Anakama is not a company I will touch with 100-foot pole. Read the comments on their last game about damaged product. They wouldn't replace my damaged goods.
It also took 4 years to fulfill Arkeis, and it has low-quality components and everything sits slanted in the box. I will also avoid any project they launch.
i believe Super Dungeon explore was the first million dollar Boardgame failure project on KS. Blacklist Games then was the next failures of several million dollar games, and then Mythic.
Not sure if I am interested in Enormity or Malediction. I at least like the concept of Malediction from a production standpoint, but the price is going to have to be much lower than most games.
They have the audacity to ask us to trust them again after the fiasco with Mythic.Seriously thank you for informing us cause they all in my black list...
Insania has my attention. Still undecided about Bardsung. I stopped playing the first edition ages ago, but utilise a lot of the minis in League of Dungeoneers. It is looking pretty good? Decided against Super Fantasy Brawl as I have all the previous characters and don't need anymore. Mighty Shot might be worth looking at despite the Mythic connection? I did enjoy Clash of Rage and it is still in my collection. I will hold my interest in Cthulhu Death May Die until they deliver season 3 and 4 to backers. Definitely don't need a Godzilla statue?!
The manic seems to be hesitant to put any gameplay out there, and it’s made me very nervous about it, I want it but they historically realised mid rated games.
@@enricodenardi8957 showing the game pieces, board and cards and saying what they do isn’t the same as a playthrough. Most games these days tend to have one. I asked at the start for it, and others have been asking and they’ve said “we hope to get it done by the end of crowdfunding”. So for me I cancelled until I see this.
@@derekgarcia3069Allegedly, the funds taken by Mythic went primarily to paying the people working at Mythic rather than to the production of the games that have never been sent. That means that these people are comfortable taking money and walking away with it as their "compensation" when the customer received nothing in exchange. Elsewhere, if someone steals money from people and then uses that money to pay someone else, the money used to pay someone else is often forced to be returned so that the people stolen from can have their funds returned. This is often done, in part, because it would be too easy for a thief to just 'pay back' a friend and secure the funds away from being recoverable if they are discovered. These people financially benefitted from what appears to pretty clearly have been fraud. They may be talented - they may not have known what took place at the time - but they're still ok having the funds that were stolen from tens of thousands of people while those people get nothing. You can judge them as you see fit, but I see this as enough of a black mark to not trust them. Trusting a company with no record is one thing... trusting one that goes into their first campaign with a record of profiting from bad behavior at the expense of the customers ... and being ok with it ...
@@jgsugden Its the internet, so Im used to dumb takes, but wow. They were employees which are an expense for the publisher. They have no control over the company other than being paid for their time to create it. So then you should just stop buying the vast majority of board games because the factories took your money, and they are producing other games too. Better to just leave the hobby altogether. It and you will be better for it.
@@DstinctThe 'vast majority of board games' are built by larger companies where people do not know what was going on. There has been enough posted on threads, Discord, etc.. by prior employees themselves to make it clear that people were collecting paychecks when they knew that there was shady stuff going on. Treating this like any other typical board game situation is just missing the point. Mythic took people's money and gave it to their employees without producing the games - and those employees walked with the money. That is not where all the money went - but it is a part of the story. Yes - the people were employed and it was their paycheck - but that does not matter. If you know you're working for a crook and you keep collecting a paycheck ... well, information has been provided to prosecutors in the jurisdictions in which Mythic can be prosecuted. If those prosecutors elect to move forward, then there may be bigger issues for these former employees ahead. That will be up to the local legal processes. Regardless: When we have no information about a company it is somewhat reasonable to extend trust based upon faith. People were really hesitant in the early days of KS to trust these unproven companies and many people passed upon KS until they had a track record of delivering (which has since been reversed and ruined). If, however, your only information about a company is that the people running it know that they took home money that comes from people that were defrauded ... that is more than enough for me to decide not to extend trust to them. If something goes wrong and a situation gets tough, they've already told me that they'd make the choice to keep the money and let the customer be out of luck. Everyone can make their own choice.
"Arbitrary increase"... They have to pay the license holder. It's the same reason GI Joe figures are better value than Marvel figures despite both being 6-inch figures from Hasbro.
@@ccggenius but they make up for it in volume. No one would take on IP if it meant making less money. Higher volume + higher price means double dipping and even more money
Two grumbles I have. Death may die. We are STILL waiting for our pledges, and I think this is world wide, but retail has had season 3 and 4 in stock for over a month, I understand they are a business and need to make money but honestly they are giving us reasons why our stuff is late, but at the same time made sure they got retail sorted, it feels disrespectful towards backers. Enormity Whilst I look forward to seeing what enormity is, they still have two very, very big KS in production and we are still waiting for the rest of our stuff for ATO.
Since I do not have any insider information, I am guessing here but I am guessing from the point of someone who works in global logistics and with many different retailers. Asmodee does the distribution for CMON. Often, from my own experience, the distributors book their own containers because they are taking not just one project but many all at once. The distributor is responsible for getting the games into the hands of retailers not CMON. Asmodee could very well be responsible for the retail containers and CMON screwed up the KS containers. At the same time, in a previous update, the parts they got for QA were terrible and they had to be redone. This delay could have screwed up their shipment. In my own day to day work, one of my customers booked shipments in August only to still be on the water and could be late for Black Friday sales. This happens. I do not have any more information, just my own guess based on the work that I do. For CMON, it could have been a little bit of bad planning and some bad luck and not malice. Oh, BTW, I am not a big CMON fan and have purchased my CMON games from retail not KS.
They said that Enormity isn't coming to Kickstarter Until after ATO Acts 4 & 5 are delivered, and Kingdoms Forlorn is delivered. So the only one they would have outstanding would be ATO Sins of Heracles.
I can't imagine what CMON minis look like if Mythic minis were great in comparison. Just started painting my R6: Siege (lucked out there) minis and they are garbage compared to Games Workshop minis. Less and generally mushy detail, inconsiderate mold lines, detail which makes no sense (like a feature which is clearly meant to represent a strap, and rises like a millimeter above the surface it wraps around...)
@@SamBalducci We (Archon Studio) would like to say otherwise :) There's a good reason we're going with in-house HIPS manufacturing for our next board game (Master of Orion). The prices for Chinese plastic has gone way up and its significantly cheaper for us to make it here. It's only the initial costs of HIPS that are the most expensive (CNC Machines, Injection Machines, Molds) but once you get it up and running, it's very cheap. I'm just waiting for the day that we make a board game that can fully utilize the technology we have... Detailed plastic space ships are cool, but I would love some cool monsters ;D
@@szymon_archon3514 What are you paying your employees to preassemble these hips minis, because the vast majority of board gamers not not going to want to waste time doing that.
@@Dstinct We don't pre-assemble our minis. Master of Orion will feature special punch-board plastic technology where you can punch the ships off the sprue and use them right away :)
Hello! Trying to email you again to figure out what I need to do to pay for shipping for the fundraiser prize. Know you are super busy so haven’t messaged but was hoping to hear back. Thanks! Bryan
Forsaken Glade is not Bardsung, which for sure is a good thing, but it's still SFG, so hard pass. They might be good in terms of delivering, pricing, components and minis, but they are F-tier in terms of QA and game design. Thanks, but no thanks. They make games for shelves.
Plague got my interest but only 2 payments for $100, peeps still recovering from Cmons DC finals payments. 4 payments of $50 would of maybe got me to convince my wife, lol.
Commenting until we get the deep dive into Lazy Squire Games. They get loads of coverage when they ask for money. Content creators shouldn’t shy away from coverage now.
Cmon flogging another huge lump of plastic crap. Seriously buy a cheap Godzilla toy and there you go, same thing. Fanbois will buy it, they’re sold on everything lol. Bardsung, bye!! Don’t care what they’ve fixed in the game, streamlined. I saw video of gameplay and it looks like same old same old. Still trying to sell it. Mythic, honestly don’t back anything it’s as simple as that. Got a lot of nerve these people starting up again. Most of what you cover is miniature fomo campaign games, come on. There’s other interesting games out there other than just plastic crap. Shadow moon syndicates just to name one.
Yeeeah. CMON making sure retail copies of season 3 and 4 CDMD have been available since AUGUST, and US backers copies haven't even left China yet makes me far less likely to back them going forward. I don't mind retail arriving a few weeks early, but multiple months with no clear explanation as to why backer copies are nowhere to be seen is showing clear disrespect to the people that funded the project.
There is a seller on eBay selling 6 Siege product really cheap. When I messaged the seller, they said “we have the remainder of the inventory after sales and crowdfunding fulfillment in the USA and so many expansions as well as the base game” so it looks like mythic had enough product for everyone after all. But they make more money selling it to a reseller rather than shipping to backers that got screwed.
Malediction interests me a lot. I like the idea of an army/deck building game where you can print out the minis as you need them.
Can't wait for Enormity. Love ATO and the new expansion, immediate back for me
As much as I love ATO, I'm fearful they are going down a scary path. Launching a new KS with 2 outstanding ones is a huge red flag for me. I backed AT:TSOH in full and regret it later, so I kept the summer pledge and used the rest of the funds for the ATO expansions. I'll back for $1 and will wait to see if they deliver before putting any more money down, and I'll cross my fingers to get AT:TSOH someday.
I will take a look at Insania, when it launches.
I don't need the big Godzilla, but I hope they include the normal, convention exclusive, one. I like DMD, even if they should have delivered the last one before starting a new campaign.
I was curious about bardsung but disappointed. A lot of the Heroes are just resculpts of the first game.
I backed the OG Bardsung, and I've played a lot of it. I'm really excited about the latest iteration. You can tell they have taken all the negative comments of OG and thoughtfully addressed them in the new version. I also really like that they are fixing OG Bardsung and giving that "v2" to original backers for free.
Michael, I tremendously enjoy your in-depth reviews or discussions of just about anything. On the other hand, when you discuss a game and are positive about it based on the way it looks and the quality of the minis, without any consideration of the gameplay, I wonder what you are doing. i’m sure there are game players who are primarily interested in how the pieces and the minis look, but I think that most board game players really want to play good games. How can you mildly recommend a game without really the gameplay? You did this with the new Bardsung game in this video. Thanks, -Toby
As always I really appreciate the feedback. I don't recall everything I said in the video but I believe I did note the mildness of the previous game but that this game plays different and seems to be a more traditional dungeon crawler. Perhaps a bit light in mechanics, I often am balancing time in a game mode switch info available in a campaign. The most info is of course style/design with less on actual hard gameplay mechanics. I'll keep in mind then need to try and cover both more equally, which means removing some discussion on theme/style and adding more in mechanics.
@@TheKingofAverage I have learned an enormous amount from you about how to judge the quality of minis and how they can contribute to gameplay. Please do think twice about appearing to recommend that we keep an eye on a game when there's nothing to say about the game play.
There's a related issue here, and it's an interesting one: You, and most of the many video people I follow who comment on games, are always talking about how just about every new game looks fabulous. Board games seem to be a field of art in which, every year (or sooner), artists figure out how to top what has come before. Having seen SO MANY GAMES THAT ARE EVEN MORE BEAUTIFUL, I have ceased to think of this as a recommendation; it's just the normal status quo. (And games that have adequate art find it hard to compete, unless they are terrific to play.) -toby
@tobyr21 oh totally agreed. We're not hurting for pretty games to play haha. And bad art is why I stay away from some games even, amazing how much it matters how something looks.
Dice Throne was good with the Christmas version arriving before Christmas.
Strongly considering the Plague Throne game. Sitting on a nice pile of Super dongeon explore minis from the original game and the forrgotten king expansion/standalone. Shame Soda Pop games ended up as they did.
@20:50 ish - Body type A and B is newspeak for male and female. If you want to avoid having drama about gender in your comment section
I just got AEONS Tresspass cycle 4 and 5.
Absolutely gorgeous art.
I flipped through and saw the end guy WOW.
Also the Arabic Arabian themed Babylon is really cool with thewmactic mechanics
ahhh I'm still waiting for mine! But so excited to dig into aeons trespass for the first time
Your quote on Rumble Planet "I want the people backing it to be very safe with it." It took over 4 years for Ankama to deliver Arkeis, and it's full of half-assed components plus their customer service is horrible. Also, the developers went silent for over a year, leaving backers to assume it would not fulfill.
Not a good look to promote their campaign without divulging the full info. 3D printing each mini will take forever when you consider that it likely takes 4+ hours per mini, and the quality will be lower than mass printing because it's plastic and not resin.
This right here. 100%
The Plague Throne is the one that is 3D printing the minis, and you can print multiple minis at a time and chibi ones like that would take a few hours each print yeah.
As for Arkeis, I didn't feel they final product was bad at all, quite the opposite, I felt it was better than a lot of big name companies. They did take forever to deliver though! I also mentioned that it was late in the video which is why I provided my wish that I want people backing it to feel safe with it so I hope it funds well and isn't something that might not make enough, delaying delivery. This was not a promise that it is safe, but a "want" of mine for it to happen. Sorry for the confusion!
At this point most campaigns are late, that whenever I get something early im surprised.
@@TheKingofAverage The cards in Arkeis are very thin. The trays don't hold all tokens. The trays sit at a weird slanted angle, and oddly enough, the slant is needed to avoid lid lift. The hero minis are average to below average quality. Some of the tokens are reused. The fake leather bag is trash. The cardboard box is thin.
You should have mentioned that Ankama went completely silent for over a year after the campaign, and also that it was difficult to get them to replace broken/missing items during fulfillment. Also, several people still haven't received their pledge, some people were charged VAT twice, etc... and there's complete silence again from Ankama.
Ankama is not a company with whom I will ever feel "safe."
@@CheddahSlammer Late is one thing, 3 years late with at least one year of no communication or updates is completely different.
Backed conan rpg. Love monoliths stuff. Also backed the dice thrones. Pretty fun quick game
11:46 Super Dungeon was cool but Ninja Division burned me on the Relic Knights 2.0 campaign
Agreed and seconded, though this new campaign is thankfully not affiliated with them and is compatible. Good that a SD enthusiast has picked up the torch.
looks like some interesting games are coming
What are your thoughts on SHEOL these days? Was thinking about picking it up but it actually seems to be marked up quite a bit still on the secondary market. Worth the premium still or would you recommend something else for that itch at this point? Thank you 🙏🏼 love the videos!
They're doing a reprint campaign relatively soon with a 2.0 version and new expansion - I'd wait for that.
I would wait for the reprint coming up. Game is great but it does have the usual first printing errors.
@@CheddahSlammerah! Thank you!
@@stephendavis7327that’s awesome! Thanks for letting me know! I’ll do that then. I’ll wait
Ey KoA, do you have in your radar Catharsis? They're launching the 2nd edition this month in GF. It seems like a indie hidden gem.
I’m extremely disappointed that you didn’t use the opportunity to take a blowtorch to CMON. They have been severely delayed on DMD seasons 3/4, and their KS updates have been “we are booking containers to the US” since mid-August. Just 4 days ago they said they’ve got 1 of their 10 containers actually shipped and are somehow still booking the rest.
Meanwhile, the two main boxes have been in retail for like 1.5 months now, somehow they found containers for those 🤔.
And then the audacity to announce a new campaign. I’m way more lenient on CMON than you but even my patience is gone due to this.
Ah I thought they had delivered the last one finally, I'll look into that!
@@TheKingofAverage I’m usually pretty patient but the stuff CMON has been saying has been ridiculous. They actually had the gull in the last update to say they were affected by the US port strikes.
They’ve also lied that some pledges were received in Australia but 99.9% certain it’s bullshit.
We can handle delays but delays with no comms, then lies, product released months in advance to retail and then the fucking gall to say “please back our next campaign”
Worst part is people do. Tonnes of grumbles yet weakness for plastic excess
They also haven't finished delivering marvel united multiverse. That delivery windows stretched over 7-8 months now. They have only just found that a whole bunch of UK pledges were sitting in a warehouse in China, and were never sent.
Screw CMON. They haven’t even shipped Season 3 and 4 of CDMD to backers despite it being available in retail for months. Now they want to market the next expansion. Very hard pass! I am never backing their games again.
CMON is the EA of board games. All they care about is making money, and they milk the shit out of every franchise they have. They also jump at any chance they get to milk money off of fans. I have avoided CMON campaigns, and my life and boardgame hobby is still somehow very fulfilling...
Only the US and Latin America got delayed. I already have my pledge.
Now you know how Canadian backers feel all the time…except CDMD 3-4…got the game for more than a month
@@aeryellae5837 nope UK hasn’t fulfilled yet either
@@aeryellae5837 EU also hasn't received their pledges.
CMON's marketing and crowdfunding strategies really turned me off their games tbh. Very glad I had nothing to do with anything Mythic Games related.
Maniac has done it right on their explicit cards true to 80’s horror.
Great vid! Surprised not to see TC covered on KS - Skirmish war game closing in on $2 Million :)
Oh? I'll check it out!
@TheKingofAverage cheers!
Do you have any concerns about ITu as a company and their backlog of games vs what they have delivered.
Great question! Not yet anyway but it's certainly something I'm monitoring. I'd like to see one more delivery before Enormity. They do seem to be doing a lot, but it's not something that can infinitely grow either. There is a limit somewhere where more deliveries need to be made.
Oh and I'm most looking forward to Enormity! It's exactly my world! 😁🤙
I was also really looking forward to enormity, until people pointed out in the comments that ITU basically have 2 entire kickstarters that are undelivered, and this will be a third live, all at the same time.
ITU really havent explained why they are throwing yet more unfinished work on the pile, or if theyre running out of funds for the first 2 etc.
I really like ATO, and think its one of the great games only possible with kickstarter etc, and have the fanboy urge to insta back. Its just a bit worrying from the financial standpoint. I really wish they could address this fact directly, rather than pretending its not a factor.
Still waiting for those DD expansions to become available, though trying to not get my hope up.
Not one mention on the outrageous prices of the pledges in The Plague Throne. $150 for the base pledge that has standees and only 5 minis? $15 for an extra mini and $40 for expansions with 3 minis. How can you not be outraged at the prices? You used to rip overpriced campaigns like this apart. Most campaign base pledges average $120 and have 40+ minis. What can possibly make this worth backing?
Hello King, thank you for your new video and the overview! And I just wanted to remind you about Masters of the Universe / Patron. 😄🙏 Thank you very much!
I will take a look at Insiania.
I will most likely back DMD 5&6 but not the giant Godzilla.
Still waiting to see more on Avalon.
And the lore for Malediction is written by the creator of Dragonlance and Ravenloft.
Indeed! Should have mentioned that :)
Anakama is not a company I will touch with 100-foot pole. Read the comments on their last game about damaged product. They wouldn't replace my damaged goods.
It also took 4 years to fulfill Arkeis, and it has low-quality components and everything sits slanted in the box. I will also avoid any project they launch.
@@Gamebent1 Yup, I was so pissed, I looked at the components, shoved them back in box, never touched again. Their customer service is the worst.
Rumble Planet is a game invented in a french audio saga Xantah
I want that lizard!
Thank you for the video
You are very welcome!
i believe Super Dungeon explore was the first million dollar Boardgame failure project on KS. Blacklist Games then was the next failures of several million dollar games, and then Mythic.
Not sure if I am interested in Enormity or Malediction. I at least like the concept of Malediction from a production standpoint, but the price is going to have to be much lower than most games.
With no minis manufactured, hopefully that's the case!
Mythic Games employee's next game is the same as the old game: take peoples money and give them nothing but empty promises in return.
If anyone is associated with MG, that is a no for me.
They have the audacity to ask us to trust them again after the fiasco with Mythic.Seriously thank you for informing us cause they all in my black list...
Ignorant comment. The CEO has nothing to do with Mythic Games. He hired the unemployed game developers who have developed some awesome games.
@@cfosburgStill they will carry that tag for the rest of their lives
@@zerosdeath Even ex- employees who had nothing to do with the overall management of the company?
ohh cant wait for the avalon unboxing 😀
Sadly they requested no unboxing video since it's a prototype (a beautiful one!) so just a review soon :)
@@TheKingofAverage ahh darn; couldve been an extra video 😕
Insania has my attention. Still undecided about Bardsung. I stopped playing the first edition ages ago, but utilise a lot of the minis in League of Dungeoneers. It is looking pretty good?
Decided against Super Fantasy Brawl as I have all the previous characters and don't need anymore.
Mighty Shot might be worth looking at despite the Mythic connection? I did enjoy Clash of Rage and it is still in my collection.
I will hold my interest in Cthulhu Death May Die until they deliver season 3 and 4 to backers. Definitely don't need a Godzilla statue?!
I wish I had kept Clash of Rage. At the time my kids were younger and would always just go after each other. Now they'd be fine though!
Wait what? Reggie games is working on something new! Cover that, yes I think you definitely need to cover that 🤔😀
The manic seems to be hesitant to put any gameplay out there, and it’s made me very nervous about it, I want it but they historically realised mid rated games.
There is a how to play and a rule book available. I liked what I read and I am on board
@@enricodenardi8957 showing the game pieces, board and cards and saying what they do isn’t the same as a playthrough. Most games these days tend to have one.
I asked at the start for it, and others have been asking and they’ve said “we hope to get it done by the end of crowdfunding”. So for me I cancelled until I see this.
I’m really into the new death may die because of in the mountains of madness and GODZILLA
Super fantasy brawl I never played before.
But I’m hoping to see the UNITED like using mortal kombat and TMNT
Ok I am now 100% positive we’ll see
TMNT and Mortal Kombat in DC United season 2.
@@siriactuallysara Nope. The license wouldn't let them. They can't even bundle TMNT and MK together in the SFB KS because of it.
Love these videos, they save me so much time!
Thank you for the feedback! I really appreciate it 😊
Anything mythic employees touch or around I'm avoiding like plague.... Got duped too many times
I understand this to a point, but I wouldn't blame the game designers for the mistakes of their owner/operator (aka, Leo).
@@derekgarcia3069Allegedly, the funds taken by Mythic went primarily to paying the people working at Mythic rather than to the production of the games that have never been sent. That means that these people are comfortable taking money and walking away with it as their "compensation" when the customer received nothing in exchange.
Elsewhere, if someone steals money from people and then uses that money to pay someone else, the money used to pay someone else is often forced to be returned so that the people stolen from can have their funds returned. This is often done, in part, because it would be too easy for a thief to just 'pay back' a friend and secure the funds away from being recoverable if they are discovered.
These people financially benefitted from what appears to pretty clearly have been fraud. They may be talented - they may not have known what took place at the time - but they're still ok having the funds that were stolen from tens of thousands of people while those people get nothing.
You can judge them as you see fit, but I see this as enough of a black mark to not trust them. Trusting a company with no record is one thing... trusting one that goes into their first campaign with a record of profiting from bad behavior at the expense of the customers ... and being ok with it ...
As were we during our employment
@@jgsugden Its the internet, so Im used to dumb takes, but wow. They were employees which are an expense for the publisher. They have no control over the company other than being paid for their time to create it. So then you should just stop buying the vast majority of board games because the factories took your money, and they are producing other games too. Better to just leave the hobby altogether. It and you will be better for it.
@@DstinctThe 'vast majority of board games' are built by larger companies where people do not know what was going on. There has been enough posted on threads, Discord, etc.. by prior employees themselves to make it clear that people were collecting paychecks when they knew that there was shady stuff going on. Treating this like any other typical board game situation is just missing the point. Mythic took people's money and gave it to their employees without producing the games - and those employees walked with the money. That is not where all the money went - but it is a part of the story. Yes - the people were employed and it was their paycheck - but that does not matter. If you know you're working for a crook and you keep collecting a paycheck ... well, information has been provided to prosecutors in the jurisdictions in which Mythic can be prosecuted. If those prosecutors elect to move forward, then there may be bigger issues for these former employees ahead. That will be up to the local legal processes.
Regardless: When we have no information about a company it is somewhat reasonable to extend trust based upon faith. People were really hesitant in the early days of KS to trust these unproven companies and many people passed upon KS until they had a track record of delivering (which has since been reversed and ruined). If, however, your only information about a company is that the people running it know that they took home money that comes from people that were defrauded ... that is more than enough for me to decide not to extend trust to them. If something goes wrong and a situation gets tough, they've already told me that they'd make the choice to keep the money and let the customer be out of luck.
Everyone can make their own choice.
Do you think darkest dungeon wave 2 will be picked up by cmon?
"Arbitrary increase"... They have to pay the license holder. It's the same reason GI Joe figures are better value than Marvel figures despite both being 6-inch figures from Hasbro.
@@ccggenius but they make up for it in volume. No one would take on IP if it meant making less money. Higher volume + higher price means double dipping and even more money
You're a must watch board game youtuber 👍🏻💯
Thanks man, really appreciate it! :)
I just want CMON to move forward with Hel.
Two grumbles I have.
Death may die.
We are STILL waiting for our pledges, and I think this is world wide, but retail has had season 3 and 4 in stock for over a month, I understand they are a business and need to make money but honestly they are giving us reasons why our stuff is late, but at the same time made sure they got retail sorted, it feels disrespectful towards backers.
Enormity
Whilst I look forward to seeing what enormity is, they still have two very, very big KS in production and we are still waiting for the rest of our stuff for ATO.
+1
Since I do not have any insider information, I am guessing here but I am guessing from the point of someone who works in global logistics and with many different retailers. Asmodee does the distribution for CMON. Often, from my own experience, the distributors book their own containers because they are taking not just one project but many all at once. The distributor is responsible for getting the games into the hands of retailers not CMON. Asmodee could very well be responsible for the retail containers and CMON screwed up the KS containers. At the same time, in a previous update, the parts they got for QA were terrible and they had to be redone. This delay could have screwed up their shipment. In my own day to day work, one of my customers booked shipments in August only to still be on the water and could be late for Black Friday sales. This happens.
I do not have any more information, just my own guess based on the work that I do. For CMON, it could have been a little bit of bad planning and some bad luck and not malice. Oh, BTW, I am not a big CMON fan and have purchased my CMON games from retail not KS.
They said that Enormity isn't coming to Kickstarter Until after ATO Acts 4 & 5 are delivered, and Kingdoms Forlorn is delivered. So the only one they would have outstanding would be ATO Sins of Heracles.
@@CheddahSlammer Thats good to hear, I do like ATO so it this is the case I will check it out once I get the rest of ATO and my KF stuff.
The first pic wasn’t the size of a torso.
It’s called perspective.
Same way I can tell inch your head in a photo with 2 fingers.
I can't imagine what CMON minis look like if Mythic minis were great in comparison. Just started painting my R6: Siege (lucked out there) minis and they are garbage compared to Games Workshop minis. Less and generally mushy detail, inconsiderate mold lines, detail which makes no sense (like a feature which is clearly meant to represent a strap, and rises like a millimeter above the surface it wraps around...)
Oh yeah all board games are worse then GW/HIPS minis as they are normally a PVC/ABS mix of plastic with far fewer parts
Your will never get GW quality in a boardgame, and if you do, you are paying GW money because HIPS is not cheap.
@@SamBalducci We (Archon Studio) would like to say otherwise :)
There's a good reason we're going with in-house HIPS manufacturing for our next board game (Master of Orion). The prices for Chinese plastic has gone way up and its significantly cheaper for us to make it here. It's only the initial costs of HIPS that are the most expensive (CNC Machines, Injection Machines, Molds) but once you get it up and running, it's very cheap.
I'm just waiting for the day that we make a board game that can fully utilize the technology we have... Detailed plastic space ships are cool, but I would love some cool monsters ;D
@@szymon_archon3514 What are you paying your employees to preassemble these hips minis, because the vast majority of board gamers not not going to want to waste time doing that.
@@Dstinct We don't pre-assemble our minis. Master of Orion will feature special punch-board plastic technology where you can punch the ships off the sprue and use them right away :)
Hello!
Trying to email you again to figure out what I need to do to pay for shipping for the fundraiser prize.
Know you are super busy so haven’t messaged but was hoping to hear back. Thanks!
Bryan
Hello Bryan! Always happy to hear from you. Sorry I missed your email. Let me see what I can do to speed up that process going through winners.
@ Appreciate that! I tried the secondary email just in case.
Forsaken Glade is not Bardsung, which for sure is a good thing, but it's still SFG, so hard pass. They might be good in terms of delivering, pricing, components and minis, but they are F-tier in terms of QA and game design. Thanks, but no thanks. They make games for shelves.
Plague got my interest but only 2 payments for $100, peeps still recovering from Cmons DC finals payments. 4 payments of $50 would of maybe got me to convince my wife, lol.
Haha yeah finally off that too! Of interest, the stretch pay only goes as long as the PM, so a very short PM then I guess?
Insania is using a pre-pledge reservation campaign. Boo!
Like a $1 thing?
There may not be more Zombicide, but there will be more Massive Darkness.
Commenting until we get the deep dive into Lazy Squire Games.
They get loads of coverage when they ask for money. Content creators shouldn’t shy away from coverage now.
Hahaha! I Won't get fooled again.
Anyone with me on this. DMD may be awesome but famn Massive Darkness 2 is just better
Well... i know which game i definitely will not back
Which one?
@@TheKingofAverage Mighty Shot. To me, they first have to prove that they are better than Leo & Co and not a part of the Mythic Games disaster.
Here's my top advice for everyone who thinks about getting into crowdfunding: don't do it.
Haha definitely need to be more careful these days
Cmon flogging another huge lump of plastic crap. Seriously buy a cheap Godzilla toy and there you go, same thing. Fanbois will buy it, they’re sold on everything lol.
Bardsung, bye!! Don’t care what they’ve fixed in the game, streamlined. I saw video of gameplay and it looks like same old same old.
Still trying to sell it.
Mythic, honestly don’t back anything it’s as simple as that. Got a lot of nerve these people starting up again.
Most of what you cover is miniature fomo campaign games, come on.
There’s other interesting games out there other than just plastic crap.
Shadow moon syndicates just to name one.
: )