Gel testing 30 cal low velocity (long range simulation) 168 gr A-MAX and ELD-M for hunting part two
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Gel testing the .308 168 gr A-MAX and ELD-M at low velocity to simulate long range shots to see how they would perform on game if used for hunting at longer ranges. I will be doing videos on higher muzzle velocity to show a max range loading them in a 300 WIN MAG
Thank you!
Fun video. We have had great luck with ours and have taken several Mule deer with these bullets from our 308 rifles.
Thank you for good demonstration & data.
So 600 to 800 yards, depending on muzzle velocity being, say 2550 to 2750 fps? For perspective, a .357 Magnum will do between 1400 and 1500 fps from a 158 gr in a 6+ inch revolver. So .357 Magnum energy from an expanding bullet at 600+ yards? Not bad! And you can get Hornady Black with the 168 gr Amax for $1.60-ish a pop, which also isn't bad for match .308 Win, these days. I am in the process of putting an 18 inch Proof and a Dead Air Sandman on a DMR themed AR-10, and I gotta say, this bullet is checking a lot of boxes for a do-all load in this rifle.
Хороший ролик ! Всё наглядно , раневой канал у A MAX гораздо больше и длиннее !👍
Thank you for the info. So out of a 308 20 inch barrel this is about 700 ish yards? Impressive.
Yes. Although I will not recommend anybody shoot at game animals past 500 yards regardless of the caliber and cartridge they use.
You have a favorite .308 bullet? Looks like those expanded but may have tumbled?
Have you tested these at higher velocities?
Yes, not recorded in video. They don't do well on impacts over 2600 fps. I'm planning on doing high/low velocity test in the same video on these at some point.
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I'm getting ready to develop a load with the 168gr Amax.
Lapua brass and CCI large rifle primers. I have a few powders but IMR4064 and Hodgdon CFE223 are my best choices out of those with the exception of Varget and maybe Benchmark, but Varget is harder to find and I have much less. My target load is CFE223, SMK 175gr out to 1000 yards regular 1200 less but not much and 1500 yards on occasion, (the occasion being calm winds). I have modified the SMK hollow point to function, but the lead seems hard. I tried Berger Hybrid Target 168gr but wasn't impressed with the function. Even after opening the hollow point up some. Question is which powder, IMR4064 or CFE223 with the 168gr A max. The IMR4064 is where I'm leaning because of temperature sensitivity of CFE223 and not enough time to get the info for longer ranges and temperatures with the CFE223. It does yield faster velocities. My 175gr is running 2760 on my chronograph @ 70⁰. Very accurate load. I'm late on this test because of recent health issues from shrapnel and organ removal years ago plus covid at the same time and hospitalization. Enough of that though. Any advise or experience would be greatly appreciated.
Great job on the video.
Thanks for your time and effort.
Keep'em coming Simple Minded Fella!
@@kentuckywindage222 not being able to get your hands on preferred powders does make it tough. Varget is one of my go to powders. If you have or it is available in your area I have used IMR4064 with good results. The only issue I have had with IMR4064 is a batch that didn't like to be compressed even in the slightest bit before causing pressure spikes and I mean spikes. Start low and work up really slowly if you are starting to compress the powder.
@@simplemindedfella
Thank you. I have an 8lb of IMR4064 I have used little of for my .243 Winchester. I did load some Berger 168gr Hybrids with it. I got just over 2600 and as you stated here, I got flattened primers with it. Funny part is I loaded .243 Winchester 80 gr. TTSX @3400 fps. A little above max with no flattening of primer or smearing on head of case?
My mag length in my 308 Winchester has plenty of room for C.O.A.L. Question I have is this, I've always went by the depth of seating my projectiles at minimum the width of the largest part of the bullet being seated. Is it ok to seat the projectile less? If so, just give a little or more than you would think as I will research more to find out. This to keep a green horn from getting themselves into trouble.
Thanks in advance
@@kentuckywindage222 It's definitely better to err on the side of caution and make sure there's enough bullet in contact with the neck that you don't risk them shifting or yawning. I use the same method but I do cheat it a little bit less on some of my rifles but you're talking light gain weight bullets, the bullet is not trying to shift or do anything in the magazine while the guns being fired with another round.
I don't have the experience needed to answer your question any better that that.