Tibetan muslims r very different than other muslims...they follow His Holiness the Dalai Lama teachings of Kindness peace Compassion forgiveness tolerance...
Very interesting. Love our Khaches. They were known for speaking pure, sophisticated, Lhasa dialect as they lived in Lhasa, as traders, for many generations and had deep contacts with Lhasa nobility.
If you ask khache in Lhasa , they will deny being an Indian Muslim. If you ask Tibetan muslim in Srinagar , their identity is dependent on who is asking the question.
It was Muslim Kashmir traders that married Tibetan women, that is how There off spring are Tibetan Muslims or called kachi. The his holiness 5 the Dala Lama gave them place to build place to worship. It’s unfortunate that all the Buddhist in Kashmir, Afghanistan Bangladesh, Pakistan , Iran are all murdered . Buddha’s statue were destroyed by Muslims. In Islamic countries they have no tolerance for other religions. The famous Buddhist Nalanda university in India was destroyed by Muslims invaders destroyed. Buddhism teaches love every human beings Kaschi were allowed to worship their beliefs. Unfortunately I don’t see that tolerance for Buddhism in any Muslim countries.
@faithfulshadow taqiyya ? Look what is happening with PakistanI hindus & Christians in Pakistan , Bangladesh hindus & Christians in Bangladesh , Afghani sikh in Afghanistan , Iraqi yezdhi in Iraq, when muslims became majority , read quran 9: 29 & watch ex muslim channels like apostates prohet , quranwala , Harris sultan etc
@tsedup4317 look Pakistan , Bangladesh , iraq yezdhi , kashmiri pandit , south Thailand , Philippine ,Sri Lanka, Afghanistan , Somalia , chad , sudan , Kenya etc how their non-muslims live in fears ?
They are nice people and they like to identify both Tibetan and Indian Muslim whichever benefits them. And that is very human. No one can say they are opportunistic. But they have Indian citizenship all of them.
all Tibetans in Tibet got Chinese citizenship, most Tibetans in foreign countries other than India got citizenship, former CTA President has American citizenship. Many in India have Indian citizenship. So only you are real Tibetans?
@@Pain1959. U had so much pain in axx dude, been Tibetan Buddhist in India we can't take citizenship of India fr the faith of our forefathers who sacrificed ty live fr country,
You mean just like other Tibetans who got Indian citizenship or foreign country citizenship? Or million of Tibetan in Tibet who took Chinese citizenship? How about former president of CTA lobsang sengay? He got American citizenship. Or Gyari Dolma or others. In that case, who are real Tibetans? You ?
@@Pain1959. you must know Tibetans have RC and they have Green books . Did Lhasa Khache ever had these two once in their lifetime ? All other Tibetans even with American citizenship still has green books which they dutifully pays every year.
Tibetan Muslim are Tibetans. The nationhood of Tibet means, we have ethnic Tibetan with Buddhist, Bon, Muslim, Christian, and non-Tibetan minority like Sherpa, Lowa and so on. We will also have large mixed races Tibetan with all ethnicities. The future of Tibet has to be pluralistic, and secular with Buddhist majority.
Don't lie , you know kashmiri muslim traders married with some Tibetan women in lhasa. They traveled kashmir to lhasa in the past. When CCP occupied Tibet , that time, kashmiri muslims asked CCP that they were indian kashmiri muslims. Therefore, CCP gave them safe passage to india. India government gave them citizenship. If you dont believe it, you can check records of CCP china. Kashmiri muslims never protest or fought against CCP like Tibetans.
What does it matter…they are Tibetans and they did what they did to survive at the time….no different from Tibetans these days making their way overseas.
@Grahamite you know if you need your partner most in trouble time , she left you saying you aren't partner, how you treat later ? I never said they aren't tibetan, but kashmiri married with poor tibetan women that time. They took their wives to their homeland, kashmir. Not a single kashmiri muslim joined a protest or fought against CCP. Just because they know they weren't part of Tibet just lived as traders.
@@cloudysky-h4c I hear what you are saying but I disagree. Remember, Tibet was let down or betrayed by the Tibetans in higher places. Tibet was also let down by the CIA. So let’s not blame the Tibetan Muslims.
The term “Kache” does not refer to Leh, Ladakh etc. Khache term predates the spread of Islam in Kashmir, and it was a term for Kashmiris. This term Khache is found in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures where Tibetan translators worked with Kashmiri(Khache) Buddhist scholars. Later when Buddhism vanished from Kashmir and Kashmiris that came to Tibet were mostly Kashmiri Muslims, the meaning of term began to be used to mean “Muslims”.
Khache as region covers Kashmir Valley. Ladakh, Baltistan doesn't come under Kashmir. As these regions were called MarYul or MangYul in distant past during the Tibetan imperial period and before. But in the recent past is called Ngari which include Ladakh, Baltistan etc and also the Mount Kailash and Mansarwar region. The apricot from these region are called as Ngari Khambu or apricot from Ngari.
Actually Theirs are Mainly Asylum From Kashmir and even usually Called Lhasa Khache or Shigatse Khache. East Tibet Ziling Muslim is from China 🇨🇳. Later theirs Used Tibetans Khache. So Tibetans Khache Means Bod Khache. Bod Khache Means Tibet Kashmir 😂😂😂😅
In the world ty r many Islamic scholar liked zakir Nayak who poke Buddhism philosophy, many videos in youtube, but not single Buddhism scholar poke Islam ty different
Been Tibetan Buddhist i m upset dude, for tibet cause thousand of thousand Tibetan Buddhist sacrificed ty live fr motherland tibet, but even single Muslim do that, sorry
Doesn’t matter. Tibetan Muslim are Tibetan. Tibet is a multi-religious and multiethnic nation. If you start excluding people, you then are going to divide Tibet up.
We are so proud of our Muslim brothers and sisters community ❤
Spiritual leadership on earth called one n only His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama. Long long live His Holiness forever🙏
Thank you for sharing such fascinating insights into our Past.
Tibetan muslims r very different than other muslims...they follow His Holiness the Dalai Lama teachings of Kindness peace Compassion forgiveness tolerance...
Very interesting. Love our Khaches. They were known for speaking pure, sophisticated, Lhasa dialect as they lived in Lhasa, as traders, for many generations and had deep contacts with Lhasa nobility.
If you ask khache in Lhasa , they will deny being an Indian Muslim. If you ask Tibetan muslim in Srinagar , their identity is dependent on who is asking the question.
New generation from Both communities ( Buddhist and Muslim Tibetan) should work hard and join hand to hand to gain independence from China 🇨🇳!
No chance dude not a single Muslim die for tibet cause, only thousand of thousand Buddhist sacrificed ty live
It was Muslim Kashmir traders that married Tibetan women, that is how There off spring are Tibetan Muslims or called kachi. The his holiness 5 the Dala Lama gave them place to build place to worship. It’s unfortunate that all the Buddhist in Kashmir, Afghanistan Bangladesh, Pakistan , Iran are all murdered . Buddha’s statue were destroyed by Muslims. In Islamic countries they have no tolerance for other religions. The famous Buddhist Nalanda university in India was destroyed by Muslims invaders destroyed. Buddhism teaches love every human beings Kaschi were allowed to worship their beliefs. Unfortunately I don’t see that tolerance for Buddhism in any Muslim countries.
Tibetan Muslim or Buddhist or Bon, Christian . They are all Tibetan. We all are same brother and sister.
Are you sure ?
@faithfulshadow taqiyya ? Look what is happening with PakistanI hindus & Christians in Pakistan , Bangladesh hindus & Christians in Bangladesh , Afghani sikh in Afghanistan , Iraqi yezdhi in Iraq, when muslims became majority , read quran 9: 29 & watch ex muslim channels like apostates prohet , quranwala , Harris sultan etc
Well said 🙏🙏🙏
@tsedup4317 look Pakistan , Bangladesh , iraq yezdhi , kashmiri pandit , south Thailand , Philippine ,Sri Lanka, Afghanistan , Somalia , chad , sudan , Kenya etc how their non-muslims live in fears ?
@tsedup4317 read quran 9 : 29 , what it commands & curses against non-muslims ( kufars ) can they reject their qurann ?
Thanks for such a insightful information about tibetan Muslims and tibetan in general.
They are nice people and they like to identify both Tibetan and Indian Muslim whichever benefits them. And that is very human. No one can say they are opportunistic. But they have Indian citizenship all of them.
How do you know they are nice ppl ?
all Tibetans in Tibet got Chinese citizenship, most Tibetans in foreign countries other than India got citizenship, former CTA President has American citizenship. Many in India have Indian citizenship. So only you are real Tibetans?
@@Samurai-ke5iebecause I know many of them personally.
@@Pain1959.you are very informed person to know these people had no choice … unlike Lhasa Khache
@@Pain1959. U had so much pain in axx dude, been Tibetan Buddhist in India we can't take citizenship of India fr the faith of our forefathers who sacrificed ty live fr country,
Once Tibet lost its independence, the tibetan Muslim also gave up their tibetan identity and adopted kashmiri citizenship ,they are not refugees .
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Same thing with Khatsara (mixed Nepali-Tibetans) who renounced Tibetan identity and took Nepali citizenship after entering exile.
You mean just like other Tibetans who got Indian citizenship or foreign country citizenship? Or million of Tibetan in Tibet who took Chinese citizenship? How about former president of CTA lobsang sengay? He got American citizenship. Or Gyari Dolma or others. In that case, who are real Tibetans? You ?
@@Pain1959. you must know Tibetans have RC and they have Green books . Did Lhasa Khache ever had these two once in their lifetime ? All other Tibetans even with American citizenship still has green books which they dutifully pays every year.
I can’t say anything but yes somehow we are losing our identity
Tibet is never part of china
Buddhist phylosopy on oneness of love, kindness n compassion. 🎉💐♥️
Tibetan Muslim are Tibetans. The nationhood of Tibet means, we have ethnic Tibetan with Buddhist, Bon, Muslim, Christian, and non-Tibetan minority like Sherpa, Lowa and so on. We will also have large mixed races Tibetan with all ethnicities. The future of Tibet has to be pluralistic, and secular with Buddhist majority.
Don't lie , you know kashmiri muslim traders married with some Tibetan women in lhasa. They traveled kashmir to lhasa in the past. When CCP occupied Tibet , that time, kashmiri muslims asked CCP that they were indian kashmiri muslims. Therefore, CCP gave them safe passage to india. India government gave them citizenship. If you dont believe it, you can check records of CCP china. Kashmiri muslims never protest or fought against CCP like Tibetans.
What does it matter…they are Tibetans and they did what they did to survive at the time….no different from Tibetans these days making their way overseas.
@Grahamite you know if you need your partner most in trouble time , she left you saying you aren't partner, how you treat later ? I never said they aren't tibetan, but kashmiri married with poor tibetan women that time. They took their wives to their homeland, kashmir. Not a single kashmiri muslim joined a protest or fought against CCP. Just because they know they weren't part of Tibet just lived as traders.
@@Grahamitewhat an EXCUSEs 😂😂😂😂😂😂 God bless your intelligent 😂😂😂😂😂
@@gentlemenking2973 you definitely don’t sound as smart as you think you are , by the way it’s intelligence not intelligent .
@@cloudysky-h4c I hear what you are saying but I disagree. Remember, Tibet was let down or betrayed by the Tibetans in higher places. Tibet was also let down by the CIA. So let’s not blame the Tibetan Muslims.
The term “Kache” does not refer to Leh, Ladakh etc.
Khache term predates the spread of Islam in Kashmir, and it was a term for Kashmiris.
This term Khache is found in Tibetan Buddhist scriptures where Tibetan translators worked with Kashmiri(Khache) Buddhist scholars.
Later when Buddhism vanished from Kashmir and Kashmiris that came to Tibet were mostly Kashmiri Muslims, the meaning of term began to be used to mean “Muslims”.
Khache as region covers Kashmir Valley. Ladakh, Baltistan doesn't come under Kashmir. As these regions were called MarYul or MangYul in distant past during the Tibetan imperial period and before. But in the recent past is called Ngari which include Ladakh, Baltistan etc and also the Mount Kailash and Mansarwar region. The apricot from these region are called as Ngari Khambu or apricot from Ngari.
🪷Namo Buddha Namo Nama🪷. 🌏✨💞🕊️☮️🙏🏼
Actually Theirs are Mainly Asylum From Kashmir and even usually Called Lhasa Khache or Shigatse Khache. East Tibet Ziling Muslim is from China 🇨🇳. Later theirs Used Tibetans Khache. So Tibetans Khache Means Bod Khache. Bod Khache Means Tibet Kashmir 😂😂😂😅
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In the world ty r many Islamic scholar liked zakir Nayak who poke Buddhism philosophy, many videos in youtube, but not single Buddhism scholar poke Islam ty different
Been Tibetan Buddhist i m upset dude, for tibet cause thousand of thousand Tibetan Buddhist sacrificed ty live fr motherland tibet, but even single Muslim do that, sorry
Doesn’t matter. Tibetan Muslim are Tibetan. Tibet is a multi-religious and multiethnic nation. If you start excluding people, you then are going to divide Tibet up.
@tibetarchives8815 wat about whole world is suffering fr extremist tell me, ty only follow religion menu order, not world order okay
@tibetarchives8815 Buddha said don't fellow mein blindly, check reality wat happened all over the world