Headrush Gigboard - Love & Disappointment
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- I demo and discuss the Headrush Gigboard. There are so many things that I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE. But for me, there is one major disappointment!
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One of the best honest reviews I’ve seen in a long time . Great job .
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i immediatly came to the comments to say something about his resemblance to Ser Davos, and read your comment.
Only if they find magic to bring those fingers back
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I prefer to call him “The Onion Guitarist.”
Hey man - one of the better run down / demos around, definitely helpful for me in my search for a floor modeller - thanks, and great job
Love your work! Best Regards!
Great review, thanks
very nice video. thank you.
Great video!
No way to avoid subscribing! Thanks for the great review, just got mine Gigboard and stuck in it!
i can't WAIT for your next vid on the SHOOT OUT ! thx
I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to make a review for which you have apparently not been paid. It's a breath of fresh air at a time where it's so hard to trust guitar reviews on UA-cam :)
Never seen this guy before, but just love the way he has his "talking brain" and his "playing brain". When playing he is clearly going to another place, exactly as I do. It's why I find guitar so satisfying, it gives my stressed out normal brain a rest!
You are a man who subtly focuses on a thorough analysis of the equipment. You do it great. After your valuable reviews I can finally decide what to buy. :)
So which one are you going choose???? I'm thinking about the line6 pod go...
Looking at buying gigboard for playing out, got Helix rack in my studio rack and it stays there. Got a Headrush looperboard that I wanted to add guitar fx to play live, cause the ones in looperboard suck! Now there's the pod go wireless I'm stuck dont know which to get??!?
Great demo honest opinion on your disappointments. Thank I appreciate your demo. Good work! Some of us are just looking for a pedalboard that is somewhat compact and can get the job done. The 7" doe it for me. I like seeing what I am tweaking.
Even though I had to send it back, I love the touchscreen and the tones.
I think you achieved the greatest tone ever with a Headrush product. Congrats!
So here's how to make it work (after a few hours of trial and error) in luscious stereo! A) Add/instantiate a "FX Loop" Pedal to your rig and insert a cable to the FX send and B) patch to an external stereo pedal's mono/guitar input (in my case a Strymon Timeline). C) this is important: Go into the Gigboard's FX Loop pedal settings and turn down the send level (more on this later). D) Route the stereo outs of your stereo/external pedal using a "stereo 1/4 inch Left/Right mono to stereo mini" adapter cable-- that you can now plug into the aux in (stereo mini) input of the Gigboard... Some additional notes: The return level of the FX Loop pedal becomes irrelevant (since you are not "returning" to the (mono) FX return--you can turn that return level down or not ...doesn't matter... it is "out of the loop"). Also there are no aux-in "levels" in Gigboard (Headrush assumes you will use the volume out of your AUX IN intended device--mp3 player, iphone/ipad whatever you might use to "play along with" ) ... which is why they have an aux-in in the first place... and that aux in is pretty much set (loud) at unity gain. SO, this is why you need is to actually use the "SEND LEVEL" of the Rig's FX Loop pedal to get your external pedal to mix/sit well with the other rig pedals in the chain... and LASTLY this is super important and totally non-intuitive: turn the FX Loop pedal OFF when you are back into your Gigboard rig page. Why? Because when its "on" it really messes with the overall signal chain, since remember you turned it down to get a good mix level out to your external pedal!) and so, (when on) it unnecessarily alters the level of the rig chain as well as messes with the stereo of any pedals that might be in "front" of it... being a mono loop... aye aye aye. Talk about gotchas...Basically it just adds a level of complication, that when it's off it (thankfully) it still "sends" a "nice" signal (you control) to your external stereo pedal(s). Anyway.. hope you got all that ... So whoever (like me and or review-meister here) was thinking to either not get it, send it back, or upgrade to the 16 lb. monster because of that (cheapscape marketing ruse IMHO... c'mon a mono FX Loop in a stereo device??? wtf)... well, this albeit, somewhat clunky workaround, can get you that luscious stereo after all. Hey! Great review nevertheless!
That is a very creative solution. I do hope however, that HR will add a real stereo effects loop to the GB. In the meantime, I returned this and got the 16 lb monster and love it!
Very clever solution! Thanks for sharing!
Youre a good reviewer ...nice job
Good stuff thanks for your review.
Also, legendary beard.
Thanks a lot for the video. Looking for the Helix vs headrush shoot out. Could you share your view on this : I m starting in ambient guitar, don't have many gears. Which one of these two would be the best to use without any other pedals to get started in ambient guitar. Thanks
Thank you for this great review! Can I ask you,in your experience,what of this box (this one,Mooer,Ampero etcetera) is the most responsive to dynamics? Grazie Mille-Mauro
Is there any reason you can't just run your stereo effects after the Gigboard?
The transients and top end chime sound so much better on the gigboard compared to the helix.
70percent of people are fucking tone deaf too! its called turn up the hi end on the eq.
Great 👍
Are you able to run a preamp analog padel in the effects loop the gigboard ?
I think I know why it lacks a stereo Fx loop. For live applications nobody uses stereo in venues etc. all stereo inputs get summed to mono in the PA otherwise there would be major phase issues. As far as for recording you typically record mono in your DAW and add your stereo effects inside the DAW for post production. So in essence having a stereo FX loop on your pedal board would be useless.
also the stereo effects loop only makes sense if you are going to use two amps or at least two cabs. otherwise you can just put your stereo effects after the gigboard as studio gear. i only put them there anyway in my axe fx for example
Nice review. I bought the HR pedalboard and have been fairly pleased with it as I'm running stereo amps. Some of the amp models leave much to be desired, but overall I'm happy that I bought that and not the Gigboard.
Could you possibly share that opening tone preset?
Nicely done! I think with any unit you need some information but then you just need to go ahead and buy it and see if it works for your application.
Hi. I'm about to pull the trigger on an HX Stomp till I found this. For me this would be for my acoustic pedalboard. Does this have a DI too? I've got a fishman platinum di now and a L6 M9 for effects. Could this Gigboard replace both? I'm also really worried about this like feedback which can totally ruin things when going LIVE. Does this have anything like a Notch or Phase switch? Thank you for all ur vids. They r really helpful.
please help! In a Live situation how do i send one signal to a real cab(with IR disabled and running it through a power amp) and another signal to the sound guy(with IR enabled) ??
I sent my Gigboard back so can't experiment, but I would think you could create a stereo rig. Set up the left side with amp but no cab. That output goes to your power amp/cab. Set the right side up with amp and cab. That goes to the sound guy.
Make sure you have your Gigboard set to “Line” in your global settings.
Great review! Question:
So, for example; even though you can output a stereo ping-pong delay, if you have for instance a stereo chorus pedal in the loop, that chorus signal will just ride in mono over the delay effect? Is that true?
The effects loop is mono, so if you want a stereo effect, you will need to put the chorus before the loop to preserve the stereo image.
Geez. There's always a trade-off between price and functionality, but eliminating stereo in the effects loop seems like a bad decision. Thanks for the review, Bill.
Dang - you gave it away Bill! :-) I actually think that there is something more to this omission. I discovered that more than one retailer has it listed as having a stereo effects loop. I contacted HR tech support and they confirmed that it is mono. Wonder if that was the original plan, and then it changed at the last minute?
@@chordsoforion Good point about the last minute change. The Headrush seems to have more functionality than the Line 6, and yet the price points are about the same (the Headrush is $50 more.) Maybe they realized the stereo circuitry and interface was going to push them out of the price point they needed to hit.
Yes it's silly. But the HX stomp have a small screen and a 6 blocks limit. At this price, we cant have milk + butter.
@@Armagedon197238 Good point. Always like it when an analogy is directed at my stomach.
It has stereo effects when adjusting your signal chain to split mode. This is only possible in the virtual effects. Seems like the complaint is the external effects Loop, but at this price point and its intended purpose seems reasonable. As for me, if I what through the expense of having stereo external effects to use in the first place I probably wouldn't be purchasing this pedal anyways. I think the idea with these Advanced Digital modelers is to replace analog and simplify your overall rigged. Or for someone that likes to Noodle giving quick access to change of sounds. If you don't plan on using the internal effects and amps this would be a big waste of money.
Question please:
Can the looper in this unit be placed at different positions for example before an effect? Thanks!
No - it can only be placed before all effects or after all effects.
I am curios on how this compares to the ampero from hotone. I had a eleven rack for a while but after getting a ampero i sold my eleven rack it kinda stomped on it. but i do miss all the IO
Good question that I do not know the answer too. In general though, to me, the Headrush amp sims sound like the 11R notched up a step or 2.
Glad I picked this (well the bigger one). I have a lot of trust in this because I love what InMusic has done with the same CPU and touchscreen in their MPC Live and Denon DJ Prime products. They can keep adding features. Touchscreen interface is the way to go for a good amount of future proofing. The Lynx Hilo audio converter has a small touchscreen also and because of that, they’ve been able to put out some really interesting firmware updates. Always the possibility for any controls needed on screen. MPC as done the same, beautiful fx interfaces now onboard, vs their original utilitarian value and slider design. I believe in Kemper too because their Virus synth is excellent coding... but I don’t need to model amps myself and the price is just too up there anyway, plus looks more difficult to use. Had an expensive Line6 amp a decade ago and it was junk, never gigged it and the main encoder knob went out within months of very little usage, sound was always too thick and dull, uggh.
can i use this into the loop of HX effects?
Bill,
Was that intro riff in any of your albums? If so, what song?
-Ed
If you only had 1000 for a multi fx amp modeller , which would you get ? I already have a helix rack for home use but I’m thinking more for a mobile unit
Do you like the Helix rack? If so, the Helix LT would make sense for you.
I haven't commented on UA-cam very much, but because some people say the rudest things in the comments, I wanted to say I love your channel.
Nice video, but is barytone guitar really suitable for a full objective test ?...
What did you end up using as your DI amp/cab?
How does this unit compare with an app based modeler like e.g. Bias FX combined with an app based looper like Quantiloop for iOS, in your opinion - I/O aside. Thanks!
Those are really easy to use this is so so much more and better president
How did you like the line 6 pedal? I have debating HX stomp vs HX effect?
Please check out my demo of the HX Stomp.
I’m looking for some type of modeler to record at home, play live as an amp and effects and one complete solution going to FOH. If money were no object I would buy a AxeFx. I also tried an elev. rack and loved it. I may buy one of them used, but want to study some more. Did the gig board sound as good and feel as good with the amps since you’ve used it more after this vid? I play blues rock and hard rock. I don’t use many effects except a little delay and reverb and way from time to time. Some cover songs require some flange or phaser.
I actually sent the Giogboard back shortly after this video posted because of the mono effects loop issue. I replaced it with the full Headrush Pedalboard. Although I use several other amp modelers, the Pedalboard is the core of my live rig (which includes 2 Headrush FRFR cabs). The amp models and effects in the Giugboard are the same as the Pedalboard and they all sound great for my use in ambient guitar. As far as your sound goes, only you can be the judge of whether or not they work for you.
Have you tried the CabDryvr?
Looking forward to the shootout. The mono fx loop is a deal killer for me. FYI the Helix looper also has loop decay for Frippertronics. I've also been looking at assembling a modelling pedalboard using the Mooer preamp and radar pedals. Maybe you should take a look at those. Sadly they aren't stereo, but they're inexpensive.
Hey man! Awesome video! Do you have this patches for download?
I believe uploaded this one to the Headrush cloud.
Great review. I think you did a fine job of showing off some of the subtleties of the tone the HR has. Just to clarify for some, The unit is stereo! The external effects loop is Mono
But, hold on. I have very limited experience in these tech matters, but, based on this awesome review I read the comparison charts available on a “large retailer site with a 45 day return policy.” The following is from the HeadRush manual.
8. FX Send Output (1/4”/6.35 mm, TRS): Connect these outputs to the inputs of another effects module, an
effect pedal, or the effects loop return of an amplifier.
9. FX Return Input (1/4”/6.35 mm, TRS): Connect these inputs to the outputs of another effects module, an effect pedal, or the effects loop send of an amplifier.
So, isn’t a trs cable stereo? Using a “y” cable into a trs in fact creates a stereo effects loop. Does it not.
Last, there is this, again from the manual.
Stereo vs. Mono
The outgoing signal from the HeadRush Gigboard can be mono or stereo, depending on the models in your rig, the signal path, and which outputs you are using. An indicator near the end of the signal path indicates the current configuration.
The signal will be stereo if you do any one of the following:
• Use any stereo effect model in your signal chain. Even if you have placed mono effect models after it.
(This is possible because the mono effect is simply applied identically to both channels and not summed).
• Use a split signal path, even if the split paths rejoin before the output.
• Use a double-amp and/or double-cab configuration (i.e., if 2X is on).
The signal will be mono if you do all of the following:
• Use no stereo effect models in your signal chain.
• Use the linear (not split) signal path.
• Use only single-amp and single-cab configurations, if you use an amp or cab model at all.
Alternatively, the signal will be mono if you do any one of the following:
• Use only the L/Mono output (of a stereo pair) on the rear panel.
• Reduce the Rig Width output setting to 0%.
To adjust the width of the stereo field, tap the Out icon at the end of your signal path, and turn the third parameter knob to adjust the Rig Width output setting. This affects stereo signals only, not mono signals. 100% uses the full stereo field, while 0% produces a mono signal.
So, it seems that the internal effects are working in stereo and processes the sound as such.
Just wanted to add this for discussion. If I’m incorrect, so be it. I learned something!
@@glennwilsonboerstlerii535 what's the consensus?
I'm confused. Are the presets in the gigboard, and the ones you make stereo? I don't used external pedals. Do you mean external pedals are mono? I'm hoping the reverbs, delay, chorus, etc are stereo that are built into the headrush.
The effects loop is mono, so external pedals can only be connected that way. the internal effects such as delays and reverbs can run in stereo.
@@chordsoforion Oh ok thanks. So plugging this into an amp or PA speaker would give me the full stereo effect.
As long as your amp or speaker system was stereo, yes.
Why not the full size headrush? I think it has the stereo effects loop.
That's actually what I ended up doing - got the full size board, and it will make its appearance here on the channel soon.
@@chordsoforion Are you going to double up using the HR and the 11R together? midi + effects loops man o man the endless possibilities!
Great stuff... thanks! I think my best bet is the Headrush Pedalboard. I just hate deep diving menus and tiny interfaces, and the large screen and relatively simple configuration options on the Headrush units are too important to me.
Hi! Just discovered your channel and I'm really liking it. I have one question! You being a Eleven Rack user, would you reccomend it for live use? I have seen so many different opinions that I don't know what to think
If you use it like me, and stick to one amp model, and use a full pedalboard, then live use is very easy. If however, you want to switch rigs and really control the unit from the floor, you will need an external midi-based foot controller. I don't have any experience with that, so I don't really know how well it would work.
@@chordsoforion thanks, I've been researching on that but it hasn't been easy eheh
Its a fine line between "chime" and FIZZ. Its a very cool unit and im not knocking it but im still not giving up the tubes.
Isn't the hx stomp the best solution for a multi fx and amp modeler that integrates in a pedalboard?
If you listen to RandomForumTroll69 then yeah maybe
Can the unit send midi Program Changes/Control Changes to control midi functions on an amp?
Not sure, but here is the manual if you are interested: cdn.inmusicbrands.com/HeadRush/gigboard/v2_1_2-0520/Gigboard-User-Guide-v2_1_2.pdf
Units like the headrush or the helix need two effect loops in my opinion. A mono to run external effects before the amp modelling and a stereo loop to run external modulation, delay and reverb effects behind the amp modelling in the same rig simultanously.
I had the full blown Headrush, but sold it because it did not have the auto wah envelope filter...you know, the kind of deal that the guitarist from the New Bohemians used on What I Am...you can adjust it's sensitivity to do the wah thing triggered by how intense you pick...I called them because I thought maybe I was just overlooking it, and the rep I talked to said they didn't have one in there. It's in Helix, it's in the inexpensive BOSS GP10. It was a deal breaker for me, because I use that effect on more than one cover songs in one of the bands I'm in...here's just a couple examples: Summertime from Kenny Chesney, intro of Tattoos On This Town from Jason Aldean...just saying...they may have it in there now, because this was a while back...
I really enjoy your honest, well produced reviews. By the way, are you using a shotgun or a lav for your voice? Sounds terrific.
Thanks! I use an EV Cardinal condenser mic for voiceover. It's on a boom mic stand just out of the video frame.
Your videos are great and right up my alley. I have a question about the FX loop. Are your issues with it mainly based in a live setting? Can the lack of stereo FX loop be overcome in a recording setting?
To me the lack of a stereo effects loop is definitely a non-starter for live, as I run a stereo rig. For recording, it could be worked around by placing the stereo effects after the Gigboard's main outputs on the way into the audio interface. This is limiting however, as there is no flexibility place those effects earlier in the chain to combine with the Gigboard's internal effects. Say for instance, I wanted to use the Strymon Timeline, but still wanted to use the Gigboard's stereo reverb options. Typically I would place the delay before the reverb. Can't do it without a stereo effects loop.
The Headrush "Pedalboard" has the stereo effects loop. The "Gigboard" does not. The expression pedal, extra foot switches, and the stereo FX loop are well worth the extra money for the "Pedalboard." I love mine.
Hey, i love the sound your getting in the start of this vid. What are the pedals in the headrush or the settings?
Thanks! It's the same patch I walk through in the video.
Can't wait to see the A/B between the Headrush and the HX Stomp! Out of curiosity, do either of them take external distortion pedals well? Amp modelers have done a great job closing the gap on clean tones, but they haven't gotten quite as realistic when it comes to dirty tones. Would either of them take well to having an OCD or a Soul Food running into them for overdrive, or a Big Muff for fuzz?
I can't speak to the HX Stomp but I'm loving the Gigboard. It does take external distortion pedals well. I've run a Dracarys, REVV G3, 5150 Pedal, and even a Plasma Pedal and they've all sounded great.
And as for the many nay-sayers have complained about the lack of stereo effects, HeadRush has said that, that functionality is coming soon in a software update
Thank you for the input! I really like the clean sounds out of the
Gigboard, but the dirty sounds had me a little on-the-fence. If it
handles distortion pedals well and I don't have to worry about that,
then I'm sold!
You're kidding right?
@@gibusgamer93 the Engl Powerball is in the latest update and 2 drive pedals
Im mostly interested in how it is doing the heavy tones. I have GT-100 and I can get a good heavy tone from it, but im not fully satisfied. There is so much background noise when driving high gain, I can hear it even when using 2 gates in the chain. Also I noticed that there is only one distortion and only few amps that I like the sound of, the rest is crunchy or clean. Even the amp sim called Core Metal is too soft. It just sound like ass when chugging. Most modelling units sound great in the clean and crunch channel, but they tend to get in trouble when dialing these heavy tones.
Hey Jack - I saw your other comment about chugging too. I don't go for a lot of heavy tones here on this channel am not very well versed in playing heavier genres. That being said, I find that the the Gigboard (and the HR Pedalboard) is easier to set up for amp sim tones VS. the GT-1000. The HX-Stomp is a little more "fiddly" to work with IMO, but also gets some good tones.
For the gt1000 make sure your gain settings in the amp model are on medium, they’re more like distortion amounts and high will make everything seem extra fizzy
I looked up maybe all video of the headrush pedalboard and gigboard i could find so far, but one of my questions is still unanswered. Is it possible to run more than one IR in series? Maybe an accoustic guitar IR into an reverb IR or an reverb IR into an cabinet IR?
I tried this out because it seemed like something that should work. However the answer is no, at least not on the Gigboard (I guess it's the same for the Pedalboard). You can combine one of the built-in cab sims with an IR though. But the option to add an IR is greyed out if you already have an IR in that series, same for cab, amp, and some of the effects.
@@zwavelbron Thank you! Good to know. I wonder why none of the reviews mentions such limitations. Its just like no other review I saw mentioned that the fx loop is mono. I knew it allready, because I looked it up on the headrush website. And even there its not said that you can only use one IR per rig. Can you tell us, what other effects can be used only once in a rig? What about stucking delays?
@@schniggedagges74 For the effects other than amp/cab/IR (which you can use multiple of but only in parallel it seems), it varies depending on what effects are used. So that's a bit hard to say. For example, I noticed that most types of distortion pedal were greyed out when there was already a distortion pedal + 2 types of EQ. Removing one of the EQs made all distortion pedals available again. In a clean rig (just amp + cab), I managed to add 5 reverbs AND 4 delays into the rig and reached the maximum of 11 slots. The first one to be greyed out was the DYN DELAY, followed by the AIR REVERB. The rest was still available when selecting the last effect. So it looks like stacking delays/reverbs should work. And it sounds pretty cool actually, so I saved that random test preset I made :P
@@zwavelbron Ok, so it seems that it is a matter of calculation power. The Headrush avoids running out of power and sounding bad.
Sounds like a great board. The downer as discussed is that if I wanted to plug a couple Strymon pedals into the FX loop I’m limited to mono. So is it worth spending an additional £300.00 for the upgrade model?
Impressive device.
Hy a newbie with the gigboard,
I just need to know how to use the Gigboard with my amp!?
I would like to use the Gb. as a multi-effects device in conjunction with my amplifier!
So I have an ENGL Extreme Aggression Amp and I want to use an overdrive effect of the Gb. infront of my Amp, and the modulation after the preamp in the FX loop of my amp,
is that even possible?
And I would also like to use the ext.amp to switch my amp from ch.1 to ch.2
If all of my requirements are possible, how do I switch and wire this to the GB?
Is it possible for you to do a video about it?
I would suggest reading up on the "4 cable" method. Basically what you will do is: 1: plug your guitar into the GB input, 2: set up a patch with the effects loop block right after the overdrive effect and the modulation after the effects loop, 2: Plug the effects send from the GB into the input of your amp, 3: take the effects send from your AMP and plug it into the effects return of the GB, 4: take the main output of the GB and plug it into the effects return of your amp. This will allow the distortion to be placed before your amp input and the modulation to be in the amp effects loop. I can't do a demo as I send the Gigboard back right after I shot this video due to the lack of a stereo effects loop.
@@chordsoforion thank you very much for the quick response 👍😀 I did not mentioned, i already have tried the 4 cable method. My main issue is the routing within the Gb. The problem with all these multi-effects devices are: I am not a 747 Pilot, I am a guitar player! Therefore I thought that the Gb. would fit my needs, but it seems I was wrong 🤔 so I will try again, and maybe if i can't work it out , I'll send it back and use my analog pedal board 😉
Does it have univibe
Could u tell us how many effect/amp module can you add in one patch (I guess only 6 on the Helix).
It is possible to turn off all the modeling and just use effects? I'm looking for a multi effect for my acoustic rig
Yes - you can skip over the amp and cab sims. You may also want to look at the Line 6 HX Effects unit.
I just read the gig board manual and it says that both the send and return jacks are TRS.
Now I stand to be corrected, but doesn't this mean that in actual fact using TRS Y cables ( 1x trs to 2 x ts) you could use stereo fx in the loop?
Nope. I actually tried because of the manual, and found that if you use TRS Y cables, the loop does not work. I then contacted Headrush before I posted this video and they confirmed that the effects loop is mono. And then shortly thereafter Musicians Friend, Sweetwater and other retailers switched their description from "stereo FX loop" to "mono FX loop". If that's not enough, the web site specifically says on the Gigboard page: "¼-inch mono FX loop to integrate pedals and outboard gear". Can you tell I really want to convince you so you are not disappointed like I was? :-)
@@chordsoforion
Ok, just needed to get confirm that with you.
I don't need the stereo FX loop because I want run 4cm.
Would recommend this over the boss gt1000 core?
I was about to get the boss but then I came across your vid, and hesdrush sounds pretty sweet.
@@mrbas5150 I have no experience with the core, just the full GT1000. I hope to get my hands on the core later this year and check it out.
@@chordsoforion I'm kinda leaning towards the Hesdrush , after watching so many different reviews of both the Hesdrush sounds so much more crisper and defined than the boss.
Seems easier to program also.
Hi.. how do you set that stereo delay you do?? Sounds really good on clean. How many ms is each delay? Is that a dual delay? Thank you!
I don't remember the exact settings, as I sent back the Gigboard over a year ago due to the mono effects loop. But if you look at the screen at 6:52 or so, you can see the settings.
So its only one delay but has two speeds set? Dynamic delay. Thanks
@@mikmiklicayan4483 Best thing to do is look at the documentation for all the controls and options: www.headrushfx.com/kb/headrush-pedalboard-effect-and-control-list/
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According to the User Manual, the Effects Loop's Send and Return use TRS jacks, so... Doesn't it mean it's a Stereo Loop?
One would think so, however, I contacted Headrush and they confirmed that it is a mono loop. In addition, the product page also specifically says it is a mono loop.
@@chordsoforion Yes, you are right. I just wonder why they do use TRS. If you check the "Setup" page in the User Manual you'll see that, in fact, in the Send and Return, the cables are TS.
I think you can use a split cable to make stereo. I just saw a UA-cam review by Headrush and says it’s stereo 🤔
When it comes to amp sound, the Headrush wins hands down!
It’s funny for each person that says that another disagrees
La saturacion suena muy gruesa y compleja
Me recordaba un poco a algún sonido de David torn
This is just a crazy idea the input jack on your guitar converted to stereo I read the ads on the input jack for strats I'm no gear tech at all but the stereo input jack came to my thoughts..Roland J..
I'm really glad you mentioned the lack of more crazy/extreme fx - I've been wanting to get an "all-in-one" pedal to make touring/traveling easier on me. Do you happen to know if the larger headrush pedalboard has the more lush/extreme fx? I generally do dark psychedelic, post-punk, and shoegaze, so those massive reverbs and delays are vital to me.
If you want routing options, I've never seen anything that comes close to the OG L6 Helix, man. That thing has more ins, outs, loops and routing options than I could imagine anyone ever needing.
I have to say that this PRS is one of a kind
I like mine. It isn’t the best sounding modeler that I’ve heard however it’s well organized and it’s very easy to program.
a voctory tube pedal into this may just be the ticket or a maxon tube pedal, my soundgarden needs sorted
Hi, you might want to try the FAS AX8 and/or FX8. I love both of these units.
I am sure the AX8 is great, but it is a good bit more $$ than the Gigboard. Still, the gear addict in me is interested. :-)
Great review. Love those first patches (before you added the Octave ;) Are they available for Sell or Share? Thanks for all of your HeadRush wisdom and encouragement! You have earned a new subscriber Sir!! Was just about to pounce on a Gigboard, but I think the Fractal FM3 is gonna be a monster for a few hundred more.
Yaa dilemma for me as well
But I dont think its a few hundred dollars from what I know its going to be almost 3 times the price atleast in the uk
Hi Bill - this is precisely the group of videos I needed. Thank you! I play at home and am not concerned about the Stereo effects loop for my purposes. This will be my effects board as I do not have anything else other than an OD pedal that I will keep. Am I right to assume the UI / Usability is easier on the Headrush vs. Helix Stomp?
Yes, the Headrush UI is super easy to use. Love it!
So the headrush pedalboard has stereo effects loop? Too bad the gig board does not
Correct - Pedalboard = stereo loop.
With the GigBoard and a Ground Control you'd have something more versatile than the Headrush:) The Headrush is the best piece of equipment I have ever had in 53 years of playing and gigging:)
My biggest disappointment with either HeadRush or Gigboard is the lack of facility to assign all parameters to MIDI CC to toggle the assigned parameter between a minimum value and maximum value when either on or off or vice versa.
Interesting - I have not dug into the MIDI side. Good information!
Can you do 8 parallel delays ala Alan Holdsworth on this board?
yes
I wish more reviews were so informative like this is.
My goal is to take a line out signal from an amp to a device like this and run the FX as wet (dry kill). essentially a wet/dry/wet rig. will this be able to do that?
I suspect the Gigboard does not support line level inputs. The input is labeled "guitar input" in the user manual. So not sure you could put the whole pedal in an effects loop. Take a look at the manual for more information: www.headrushfx.com/assets/downloads/Gigboard%20-%20User%20Guide%20-%20v2.0.pdf
12:40 you talk about using the looper for delay... could you explain or do a vid on this? Great videos by the way!!!
Thanks Scott! I don't have a vid specific to the Gigboard looper, however, I do have an older demo of the technique using a TC Electronic Ditto X4 looper: ua-cam.com/video/EByZuPGxFsc/v-deo.html
@@chordsoforion Awesome... thanks for the help
I love the objectivity on your reviews master.
Wouldn't You use delay & reverbs after the whole unit anyway?
You might be able to, but then you would not be able to intermix the internal effects and the outboard in stereo mode.
@@chordsoforion You have better delays and reverbs anyway, i understood from the video that this was surpose to be the amp modeler.
Unless you mean some stereo modulators that you would like to use before the amp modeler..
There are other reasons to run outboard effects in the effects loop: headphones, USB interface, ability to connect to gear with line level outputs and more.
@@chordsoforion Yeah i didn't think of headphones and usb, i understand now why it can be important :)
That was my idea as well. Have a TC triple delay and a strymon big sky that i want to put behind the headrush in stereo. The unability to use USB and headphones with it then is a big argument. Personally I would solve them by running all into my audiointerface and use the headphone jack of the audiointerface instead...BUT my question is: Does it sound well to run a delay and a reverb behind a cabinet or an IR?
Finally I got my headrush gigboard yesterday. Expecting it to have just a mono fx loop i am somehow irritated now, because in the quickstart guide it is said, that the fx send and return is a TRS jack. So why to build in a TRS in the loop if its only mono? As I dont have a TRS into two TS cable here I cant test it right now. Did you test the gigboard with a stereo cable?
Yes, I did test it with TRS to split to 2 TS. It basically zeroed out the effects, leaving just the dry. I then contacted Headrush who confirmed that it is a mono effects loop. Also, the product page on their site says "mono".
@@chordsoforion Yes I know that the side is telling it is mono. Seems, then the right hand of headrush does not know what the left hand is doing, because when the Quick guide was printed the fx loop seems to be planned to be stereo as it was also printed in different store infos. Sounds like a last minute change. I wonder if it really just have a TS jack built in now or if it may have a hardware TRS but the software is programmed to use it in mono only
@@schniggedagges74 i agree with you - It does seem like the original intent may have been a stereo effects loop - and then something kept them from implementing it.
Have you tried the Zoom G1Xon yet? I thought it looked interesting...
Interesting. I too own this. I inquired about the effects loop. Tech support told me that the unit intrinsically has the capacity for stereo in the FX loop. They told me this will be addressed in a firmware update to be released in the next few weeks. Good thing. I was about to upgrade to the pedalboard just for this deficiency.
I'm wondering if you've heard any more about this. 7 months later, Headrush's Gigboard web page still describes the effects loop as mono. The manual notes both the send and the return are TRS jacks, which means there's the potential for stereo, if the internal circuitry treats the tip and ring separately. But the current manual doesn't say whether the loop is mono or stereo.
Are you totally sure about the FX loop not carrying a stereo signal? TRS input and output, just wondering...(?) Otherwise, a good short review...
Unfortunately, I am very sure. I contacted Headrush and they confirmed that it is a mono loop. In addition, the retailers have now removed the "stereo effects loop" part of the description due to my alerting Headrush that the descriptions were incorrect.
@@chordsoforion ok, thanks...
Damn , was lovin this til you mentioned no stereo fx loop, I really like the boss dimension C pedal which is stereo and it would be cool .
Is there no workaround at all? Such a shame
Yep. Just checked the HR site, and the Gigboard page still says it is a mono loop: "¼-inch mono FX loop to integrate pedals and outboard gear". It is a crying shame. I did end up with the full Headrush Pedalboard (with a stereo FX loop) and love it, but I am still bummed about the Gigboard.
@@chordsoforion So the Headrush Pedalboard is the way to go if you're concerned with keeping everything in stereo?
@@ravencole2740 Or the 2 versions of the HX-Stomp or Helix models if you want to broaden the scope of your gear search.
I play Ambient Guitar music live in a couple of restaurants here in town. The list of locations is growing slowly. However I have to tell you, stereo sound is a must. I have said thanks, but no thanks, to a couple of location who didn't have stereo sound system, or space for me to bring my own sound system. Having the fill the room with lush changing sound is a must for me now. Just sharing.
I am right there with you. Stereo rules!!
No one in the audience cares...
Maybe, but it's about the player being inspired and in the moment, that's what people listen to you for... not the other way around.
This device does have stereo. Listen with headphones and you'll hear the effects he's playing many are in Stereo. You can also create two separate chains and then use the settings the pan one of them left and one of them right.
!@@officialWWM I think the people listen, care more than you realize. Merry Christmas
The Headrush Gigboard product description does state "mono FX loop" as you stated and only has one FX send and 1 FX return, unlike the Pedalboard that has 2 of each, it may not actually be mono. The 1 FX send and 1 FX return connectors are stated in the Gigboard User Manual specs as both being 1/4" TRS connectors. TRS connectors have two signal connections, and one ground connection. So why would HR put balanced TRS connectors in an effects loop where most effects devices are unbalanced TS connectors? It could be that if you have an external stereo chorus effects box that uses a TRS stereo connector for its input and output then you would get stereo out and take stereo back in IF you have inserted a stereo effect in the Gigboard signal chain or a 2 amp split chain (which makes the it output stereo on the guitar amp outputs). If you have a stereo chorus that has one TS input and 2 TS outputs, 1 left and 1 right, then you can't run them both back into the Gigboard, but if your effect box has one TRS stereo in connector and 1 TRS stereo output connector (with 2 signals one for left and one for right), then maybe that will give stereo coming out the guitar or line outputs. Did you actually try using a stereo effects box with stereo effects in the GB signal chain? Just a thought and I may be wrong. The Gigboard User manual specs don't state mono for the effects loop connectors and it does not so on the rear panel as it does on the Pedalboard's rear panel when using just one of the 2 loops.
Yes - I tried TRS stereo splitter cables and verified that it does not work. That was before I contacted Headrush technical support and they verified that the effects loop is mono. Their web page AND the company I bought the device from all stated "Stereo effects loop". Because of my call, they corrected the statements. If you read through the comments, you will see more discussion on this. In addition, someone recently posted that they thought HR is preparing a firmware upgrade to create a stereo loop from the existing TRS jacks.
@14:50 It does say that on the product page, but the quick-start manual
says the FX send is TRS. and the return is TRS. Also "Connect these outputs(s) to the inpute(s) on another Fx unit", + You can set the return Input to rack or stomp level. www.headrushfx.com/downloads
Then again, on the board comparison page It says _
Inputs:
1 x 1/4" (instrument), 1 x 1/8" (aux in), 2 x 1/4" (stereo return)
Outputs:
2 x 1/4" (L/R, mono), 1 x 1/4" (external amp out), 1 x 1/4" (FX send)
Not sure what happened to my original comment on this. Sounds like you might be implying that the FX loop is actually stereo because the connectors are TRS? Well, I can assure you that at present, the loop is mono, just as the product page says. Before I sent the Gigboard back, I tried running stereo effects in the FX loop using TRS to TS splitter cables and all it does is phase cancel the effect. I then contacted Headrush tech support directly about the matter and they confirmed to me that the FX loop is indeed mono. I even made a request for a product upgrade to a stereo FX loop. And shortly after I contacted Headrush about this, all mention of stereo FX loops were removed from places like Musician's Friend and Sweetwater.
@@chordsoforion Wasn't "implying" anything - Just taking your "grain of salt advise", wondering why it says what it says on the 'board comparison page' (2 x 1/4" stereo return), and foolishly hoping it was true . Too bad it's not _(- _ - )__bc your playing with the Gigboard seemed even more fluid than w the Line 6. I was looking to replace my HX Effects which is at an authorized service center for a back-ordered joystick/encoder + It's been 12 weeks already. Thanks for going the extra mile by checking it out with the insert cable, and contacting their tech support !
omg!