For those who needs a strat to grind exp. Just play roundabout expert mode with the apocalypse modifier and only USE sharpshooter. Get a 2-4 sharp then rest of them u get 3-2 or 4-2 you decide.
@@urlocalsovietlover can yall stop with the stuttering. Businessman does decent damage for early to mid. Gives some good money if you place as much as tds farms. Has a cooldown reduction. Has infinite placement till general unit placement limit. Money stays the same throughout all modes and playercounts. Market does no damage. Money scales with playercount. No buffs
Only 30? Thats nothing, you can just lower your graphics and get more, my pc handles it at 3 fps with the lowest graphics and its not impossible to win
i remember when i still had to grind for lvl 50 recon then when i hit lvl 45 and im completely burned out from farming they drop the update which decreased the lvl requirement and that was the happiest day i had playing tbz, never used it aside from the one time i almost solo'ed expert with no strategy
How to make a lag machine: 1. 4+ players. 2. Maxed out Recon bases. 3. Expert Mode. Results are super effective against players with wifi literally on par with a potato.
I miss the old recon no need to grind for the bliss of finality non of that all you need is to just get the tower and you're done no more extra grinding
The fact is that this video is actually real, I’m tryna get it and it taked 5 runs in hard whit 2 modifiers (not the x0 modifiers) and i barely leveled up 1😢
Here’s how to use it correctly. 1. Get it in mid game. Like he said, it’s too expensive. 2. Get it to 2-2, and then do whatever you want with other towers. 3. When you have enough, and it’s the only thing you can buy, do 2-3.
Took me a week or two to actually reach to 45 Lv. Do not use 5-2. Only 2-4 and 2-5. Pretty obvious. Miniguns doesnt really affect performance that much. And Its actually great tower. 5-2 actually lags the game becouse how stupidly unoptimized rockets are. Just watch them do you spin me around. Maybe Sync the 2-4 bases to spawn the units so you can actually have god's hand of DPS. It also doesnt affects fps that much which is good. Also they can see air units. Which is fantastic.
okay here counter arguments would be:1 grind doesnt affect how good the tower is. 2 it isnt really an issue. 3 what did you expect for a tower summoning the blitz of finality?! 4...thats actually a good point but still its a player issue not the tower. 5 then get a highter end device. so yeah this is how i would argue with those arguments if he was serious.
Though it is an april fools and it is good, these reasons are actually the only complaining ones that make sense especially like the levels and the cost and placement, and other stuff. It ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE! And this actually convinces me not to get it
Short explanation of what he said: 1. I suck at the game and cant grind for 7 hours 2. I dont know how to use map space properly so that means it wastes space 3 & 4. I dont know how to use markets and cant farm and defend at the same time 5. Oh no 50 units make it too laggy (fool my pc sucks and it can handle it) 6. Its a joke dont take it seriously, april fools
theres a bug with recon base. It doesn't spawn any units after i place it. I waited for 10 minutes straight, upgrade it a bit but nope nothing happened.
I’m to close at lvl 39, I’ll get it anyways, I like the concept and it’s the only tower that sends troops, (other than gunslinger but that one is weak) and I think it’s pretty strong imo.
debunking every point: 1. Levels The point is made on the basis that you are level 0. As a level 0, you would not be aiming for something like recon base. You would only aim for it once you get some decent towers. By that point, you would be at least level 15, making it not as painful. 2. It is too large space is not an issue. The developer made most maps with the larger towers in mind. There would be at least space to place 1 along with your other defences. 3.It is expensive As you stated, it is supposed to be a late game tower. Those mastery upgrades can only be bought at the last 5 waves. At that point the enemies get so beefy that 1 wave makes u tens of thousands of dollars. So the whole you only farm with those upgrades in mind is completely invalid. 4. It promotes greed No. I just explained it on the one above. 5. It gets laggy Ok. you got point here. BUUUUT *goes to game settings *turns off detailed fx *goes to settings *graphics: 1 Still laggy? this is when u know u got a potato pc. Go to whatever internet browser you have. Get a optimisation software. Still laggy? get 5 more. Still laggy? get every single one. Still laggy? Buy a new pc. I know this is April fools joke video but eh, im just a silly person on the internet with low self esteem who needs to sleep or be zombie tmr. Still a good joke video tho.
2:34. Im using an old laptop that my dad gave me because he has a better one. I have no idea how old this laptop is but it has to be over 5 years old. If you know about playing tbz with an old device with like 80 units on the the road, then you know the absolute, Living, HELL, when playing stuff like this. Heck, I play tf2 with the "low preset" From mastercomfig (it makes devices run smoother or look better) I'm still lagging like nuts. It's horrible. Like 5-15 avg fps bad. IT'S SO BAD IT'S IN AN UNPLAYABLE STATE BAD. My god. It's like actual torture for me. Not to mention my 2.4Ghz Frequency WiFi Router that I have in my house. One moment I'm getting a minimum of 300 ping (yes ik) then another second I get slapped, punched, best in the balls, and knocked out at the same time, while giving me 50k ping out of nowhere. This hell will probably end when I move, but for now, I guess I'll just suffer in my bad laptop bad WiFi torment.
i did this on woman mode and 3 recons wer enough to crash 4/5 of our team cuz death arrow slow af so it lodged it but i was the last to crash so just like get a good pc or just go to outer reaches of the map lag ain't an issue by late game you plenty of dollars to spare hard to get? grind simple as that took me only a month to get my recon promotes greed? get business man instead of markets in my opinion it's a better alternative too large hitbox place it down earlier.
Recon Base is just outclassed by the superiority of the Market's insane damage per second. Maxed out top path Market literally has 442,457,923,148,489,972,489,323.875.99994423489 damage per second. I don't know why you would ever use Recon Base. 😒
Well i agree with most of the stuff And i even had to grind 50 lvls for Recon but they Changed it which sucks! But i knew it was a joke cuz Recon Is my fav Tower And i never unequip it So i know its good(good april fools joke tho)
hey josh mats i mean you are right but the expensive one dude you get elect 6 max elect you can get it dude your ok with getting 6 max elect but recon? Dude
Another reason: I don't like using it, thus no one else is allowed to use it
bro check the date
Me: Time to use it to annoy _FAX
@@owomen5863 do you not understand what a joke is
For God's sake I saw u in John's rbx vid saying below buffing 4 towers then nerfing them in a week
@@owomen5863 /rwhoosh
"He got us in the first half, not gonna lie"
@@trolling7681 Your fault for not watching the video first then read the comment
More of he got us in the last twelfth
@@trolling7681well you did sound like you weren't joking but okay
Yeah
For those who needs a strat to grind exp.
Just play roundabout expert mode with the apocalypse modifier and only USE sharpshooter. Get a 2-4 sharp then rest of them u get 3-2 or 4-2 you decide.
@eg🏳️🌈⃠ 5-0 better
From what I've heard, modifiers only affect the winning reward.
@@mcbb9557 apocalypse makes the wave go by faster
it doesn’t work anymore since the new update came out made expert have a 1.5x money multiplier :(
@@AidenRBX Are you sure about that
In regards to number 4. Using Businessman bypasses number 4 by making the required money and helping team mates with defense
B-B-But you are losing money from placing down a tower!1!1!1!!1!
@@Snillager B-b-but you get money from doing damage to an enemy!
+ stimulus buff
@@b1-alabatnoahzildjianb.243 B-B-But u are spending money to upgrade the tower!1!1!!1!!1!1!1
@@urlocalsovietlover can yall stop with the stuttering.
Businessman does decent damage for early to mid. Gives some good money if you place as much as tds farms. Has a cooldown reduction. Has infinite placement till general unit placement limit. Money stays the same throughout all modes and playercounts.
Market does no damage. Money scales with playercount. No buffs
I feel bad for people who actually stopped using it cuz of this vid...
it so hard to get the recon base bro, 45 lvl + need 8000 coin bro?
@@Robert_Li123-j9eonly Lv 45 is the problem.
@@salvatorerusso3561 FR i have 8000 unused coins and i got nothing to spend it on
I have over 40000
The first problem for the recon base is just fine cause the devs don’t want for noobs to get the op tower immediately
they could make it lvl 40+ then
bro came all the way to roast recon base in a successfully unsuccessful way 💀
Joshing Mattos arguing about the recon base is the most well made edit he made yet
glad to see you liked the style of edit haha
@@JoshMats B-B-BUT IM ALREADY TRYING TO GET RECON'S BLISS OF FINALITY QUEST :((((
The lag From Recon is a real problem btw. after me and my teammate Place and maxxed All The recon bases and my frame Drops form 120 To 30.
30 fps is still good
thats rookie numbers
@@C410- The worst i got is 6 FPS
Only 30? Thats nothing, you can just lower your graphics and get more, my pc handles it at 3 fps with the lowest graphics and its not impossible to win
honestly
why tf are all 4 ppl getting recon base
like 2 ppl getting recon base is enough man
i remember when i still had to grind for lvl 50 recon then when i hit lvl 45 and im completely burned out from farming they drop the update which decreased the lvl requirement and that was the happiest day i had playing tbz, never used it aside from the one time i almost solo'ed expert with no strategy
Imagine never playing tbz and this is one of the first videos you saw of it
to be honest slinger does more damage so there is no point getting it
Nah I prefer trapper
Market deals even more damage, u should use that instead
you guys are right but bugler literally does way more damage
yall stupid? techblade when put far away from the track (it gives a special ability and even more damage) is even better! go learn about the game
shut guys crossbow is the most op
This si why you should gte recon you gte alien tech and then big ship but the quests are fucking impossible for some
Phone user+recon base 9 place limit= 2:35
How to make a lag machine:
1. 4+ players.
2. Maxed out Recon bases.
3. Expert Mode.
Results are super effective against players with wifi literally on par with a potato.
Step 4- SPAWN bliss
I miss the old recon no need to grind for the bliss of finality non of that all you need is to just get the tower and you're done no more extra grinding
The fact is that this video is actually real, I’m tryna get it and it taked 5 runs in hard whit 2 modifiers (not the x0 modifiers) and i barely leveled up 1😢
Facts bro. I never touched grass while grinding recon. After quitting tbz. I touched grass and live better bro
I really want to see you try woman mode in tower blitz. I would really like to see what happens when you kill death arrow
Let me spoil you,nothing happened.
But you get 1k coins tho
Recon base is actually made for beating expert+ and events because of how much bonus dps it does
Here’s how to use it correctly. 1. Get it in mid game. Like he said, it’s too expensive. 2. Get it to 2-2, and then do whatever you want with other towers. 3. When you have enough, and it’s the only thing you can buy, do 2-3.
although posted a while ago, your Budget recon video helped me get AW, so thank you
OFC this is an April fools joke… because the recon base is actually a really god tower
You're saying weeks of grinding and I shouldn't use this
Took me a week or two to actually reach to 45 Lv.
Do not use 5-2. Only 2-4 and 2-5. Pretty obvious. Miniguns doesnt really affect performance that much. And Its actually great tower.
5-2 actually lags the game becouse how stupidly unoptimized rockets are. Just watch them do you spin me around. Maybe Sync the 2-4 bases to spawn the units so you can actually have god's hand of DPS. It also doesnt affects fps that much which is good. Also they can see air units. Which is fantastic.
look at the end
@@guythatplaysgames3656he's not wrong though.
@@Geo-ku1ql 5-2 recon is stupid op. if you are saying not to use it because the rockets lag your game, that's your problem
only get recon base if want a skin on Evade :b
Meanwhile me: use sharp shooter round about strat and gets lvl 46 in 3-4 hours
ok ima get it cause im close to getting it and i forgot to get it a while ago
Bro Go Make A Video On The Woman Update It Gives You A Slinger Skin(i crashed when death arrow was at 40m :(
okay here counter arguments would be:1 grind doesnt affect how good the tower is. 2 it isnt really an issue. 3 what did you expect for a tower summoning the blitz of finality?! 4...thats actually a good point but still its a player issue not the tower. 5 then get a highter end device. so yeah this is how i would argue with those arguments if he was serious.
if u should not use recon base then why did u use it for chapter 2 strat
This video is a joke
Is kinda true like the recon base make my game lag but hey man bigger number
Dang at the end he say it was April joke
Me reads the title: Oh no what???
Me after finding out it is april 1st: Kalm
dam you had me 100% you're good man
What map was that when you said that there was lag
Hey Josh, Tbz just had an update of reworks, can u showcase the update pls and thx
Though it is an april fools and it is good, these reasons are actually the only complaining ones that make sense especially like the levels and the cost and placement, and other stuff. It ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE! And this actually convinces me not to get it
don't listen to me go get it
Lol
I got it today
Short explanation of what he said:
1. I suck at the game and cant grind for 7 hours
2. I dont know how to use map space properly so that means it wastes space
3 & 4. I dont know how to use markets and cant farm and defend at the same time
5. Oh no 50 units make it too laggy (fool my pc sucks and it can handle it)
6. Its a joke dont take it seriously, april fools
I regret owning recon now thanks i will now replace it with slinger.
Replace it with freezer would be a better choice. Freezer solos all of TBZ!
Market does woman mode solo
no bro bugler is better! it does more damage!
theres a bug with recon base. It doesn't spawn any units after i place it. I waited for 10 minutes straight, upgrade it a bit but nope nothing happened.
did you put on auto?
@@xenophanes5860 damn you found out about the joke
Bliss of finality or alien warfare Which first?
Ya know I forgot it was April fools day cause these reasons are pretty valid
I'm level 38 or 39 and I have 14,000 points so I'm getting it 😅
I’m to close at lvl 39, I’ll get it anyways, I like the concept and it’s the only tower that sends troops, (other than gunslinger but that one is weak) and I think it’s pretty strong imo.
Nothing you said can change my mind, if it a spawner tower i will get AT ALL COST (except if it unobtainable of course )
#relatable
Does the recon base at max level spawn the bilss of finality
yeah man i agree so much the recon base SUCKS i hate the tower veri much!!!!!!!!!!
debunking every point:
1. Levels
The point is made on the basis that you are level 0. As a level 0, you would not be aiming for something like recon base. You would only aim for it once you get some decent towers. By that point, you would be at least level 15, making it not as painful.
2. It is too large
space is not an issue. The developer made most maps with the larger towers in mind. There would be at least space to place 1 along with your other defences.
3.It is expensive
As you stated, it is supposed to be a late game tower. Those mastery upgrades can only be bought at the last 5 waves. At that point the enemies get so beefy that 1 wave makes u tens of thousands of dollars. So the whole you only farm with those upgrades in mind is completely invalid.
4. It promotes greed
No. I just explained it on the one above.
5. It gets laggy
Ok. you got point here. BUUUUT *goes to game settings *turns off detailed fx *goes to settings *graphics: 1
Still laggy? this is when u know u got a potato pc. Go to whatever internet browser you have. Get a optimisation software. Still laggy? get 5 more. Still laggy? get every single one. Still laggy? Buy a new pc.
I know this is April fools joke video but eh, im just a silly person on the internet with low self esteem who needs to sleep or be zombie tmr. Still a good joke video tho.
How much xp would I need to get from level 30 to 45 tho?
I just realized bliss got neft bc it can't shoot missile anymore :(
That wouldn't even make the tower that bad so why are you that mad about it it's not that big of a deal
Tbh i gotta agree with most of the reason especially the lag
why recon base is too large i think
2:34.
Im using an old laptop that my dad gave me because he has a better one. I have no idea how old this laptop is but it has to be over 5 years old. If you know about playing tbz with an old device with like 80 units on the the road, then you know the absolute, Living, HELL, when playing stuff like this. Heck, I play tf2 with the "low preset" From mastercomfig (it makes devices run smoother or look better) I'm still lagging like nuts. It's horrible. Like 5-15 avg fps bad. IT'S SO BAD IT'S IN AN UNPLAYABLE STATE BAD. My god. It's like actual torture for me. Not to mention my 2.4Ghz Frequency WiFi Router that I have in my house. One moment I'm getting a minimum of 300 ping (yes ik) then another second I get slapped, punched, best in the balls, and knocked out at the same time, while giving me 50k ping out of nowhere. This hell will probably end when I move, but for now, I guess I'll just suffer in my bad laptop bad WiFi torment.
freezer >>> recon base
slinger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..recon base
joshmats: dont get recon base
me: haha recon go BRRRRRRRR
But... I already have it... What do i do
If you have WiFi McDonald's you got disconnect
Cant argue with it i can just replace recon if it sucks also yea i quited tbz but im back at it
after watching this I regret grinding!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still gonna get it since i love summon towers
Tbh, tho its april fools, these are actually really good reasons
What happened
i think you should have the ending more clear
I'm not getting that is Soo lag I don't want to get it if I want to buy I need a good phone or PC:(
when you realize its april first
My father pc is 7 yo and its pretty chill with the recon bass 💀
Make the elect instead lol
imagine coming here to complain just to realise this is an april fools joke
All of these reasons are valid, but the recon is just too good amd of you use it right it can win you the game easy
I was level 45 back in Major Update so....
mate its the way of beating expert because of the ship
can you do tower galactica next video :D
Nvm its april fools
i did this on woman mode and 3 recons wer enough to crash 4/5 of our team cuz death arrow slow af so it lodged it but i was the last to crash so just like get a good pc or just go to outer reaches of the map lag ain't an issue by late game you plenty of dollars to spare hard to get? grind simple as that took me only a month to get my recon promotes greed? get business man instead of markets in my opinion it's a better alternative too large hitbox place it down earlier.
@eg🏳️🌈⃠ the april fools update introduced woman mode and yea
Me realising its april fools:
I needed it for a skin in evade 😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋
Recon Base is just outclassed by the superiority of the Market's insane damage per second.
Maxed out top path Market literally has 442,457,923,148,489,972,489,323.875.99994423489 damage per second. I don't know why you would ever use Recon Base. 😒
aint norway
You need bliss of finality to beat expert+ and bliss is from recon, you can just place recon in a place that isnt useful
check the date
April Fools video
Feels like ItzSweaking talking and first time hearing josh talk after being old fan (no acc yet I'm watching it on tower battles 2019) cute voice
Reason number 1: be glad it isnt 50 levels anymore, compared to 2021.
Need it for evade skins
lag? sounds like a skill issue
(we dont talk abt the lag of ch 4)
Thanks for the script I can use for school
hey il buy it since its the same like tds military base
God bless y'all good video
I wrote this comments before realizing it was a joke video lmao
Just buy a MacBook Air if you have the money, its only an issue for low-end pcs or laptops
If I saw this tower I’m paying for it with robux
nice try josh, but if you wanna beat hard mode you are probably gonna need this stupidly expensive tower
Well i agree with most of the stuff And i even had to grind 50 lvls for Recon but they Changed it which sucks! But i knew it was a joke cuz Recon Is my fav Tower And i never unequip it So i know its good(good april fools joke tho)
i just bought it bruv
you kinda sound like Lucas IV, a battle cats youtuber
Haha funy big spaceship go pew pew and BSHUMMMM
It's really use to fun
I will still use recon base
Its pathetically easy to get tho
By the time you get to that level you have way more then enough
Nah I already spent lotta time for it
Im gonna use it
Le funni april fools joke saying recon is bad lol
hey josh mats i mean you are right but the expensive one dude you get elect 6 max elect you can get it dude your ok with getting 6 max elect but recon? Dude
Recon base is good. For me. Because I had 18k coins and it's a waste because no more buying towers le :sad: