Please talk about JDVance's support of domestic violence and wife beaters. He said said that women should stay in "chaotic" marriages even if they are violent for the sake of the children. He's also characterized rape as an inconvenience
@@the7percentsolution It's just surfacing now...at least one speech he gave in California surfacing but he also gave a speech at Steubenville (It's a big Catholic youth conference held at Franciscan University in OH) doubling down on the sentiments. It kind of blew up in Catholic news circles. Vance is a convert to Catholicism and has taken many positions which are at odds with Catholic social teaching. This is one of them (Catholic teaching on this is safety first even if it getting to safety means getting a civil divorce to protect yourself and your children...It gets more complicated from there but it is safety first)
I look at it as scrotus made themselves the final arbiter as to what acts are official or unofficial, rulings subject of course dependent on whether or not they like the party holding the office at that given time...giving themselves incredible power.
The first thing you need to know about JD is that he doesn't hale from the hollers of Eastern KY. It's important. His whole up from the holler shtick is a fraud.
JVL, Great piece. Informative and as funny as hell. And at the same time damn terrifying. What I see is a guy who will be whoever he needs to be in the pursuit of wealth and power, devoid of any moral compass. So it’s a felon and a hillbilly. A fraudulent real estate developer/ reality tv star and a venture capitalist. Neither qualified to do the job but leading a populist movement. God help us all.
All hail JVL! That was fantastic. So, so funny….. terrifying too (if Trump wins and JD Vance is a heartbeat from power!). But, right now, I’ll just enjoy the much-needed laughter generated by JVL’s always unique take in these times when, as he would NEVER dream of saying, “Everything is terrible!” 😂❤
It should be emphasized that Vance is not actually from Appalachia, as is often reported, but from Middletown, Ohio, a suburb of Cincinnati. Vance does not represent Appalachia, or "hillbillies" in any way except in his own mind.
One minor correction, JVL - Celebrimbor, not Sauron, forged the Three Rings, including Narya. Sauron famously never touched the Three Rings. Narya was originally given to Curran, who then gave it to Gandalf to assist in his labors
Celebrimbor gave Narya and Vilya to Gil-galad, who entrusted Narya to Cirdan the Shipwright, who then entrusted it to Gandalf. Vilya went to Elrond after Gil-galad, and the third one, Nenya, was only worn by Galadriel. But that's just a minor correction to a minor correction. I hope Peter Thiel and JD Vance meet a Balrog someday.
Ummm, actually, Sauron didn't make the three elven rings. They were made by Celebrimbor. That's why the bearers of the three were able to withstand Sauron's corruption and hide their realms from him, unlike the seven and the nine.
JVL: If the facts weren’t so utterly pathetic, the contents of this video would be found in the comedy section of Blockbuster. BTW, don’t forget Tiger Mom sent attractive females to Kavanaugh, advising to look sexy to get the clerkship. Class act. Finally, the quote at the end is usually attributed to Andrew Jackson when he ignored Chief Justice Marshall’s recognition of tribal sovereignty and had the Cherokees pack it up and take the long walk to Oklahoma. Trump supposedly admires Jackson. Charming indeed.
Calling JD Vance “Kentucky Hillbilly” is like calling me full-blown New Yawk Brooklyn Irish. My mother was. I was born in Park Slope in 1955 and my parents moved to suburban New Jersey in 1958….so NO…I’m not some boomer version of Pete Hamill…even though I lived 2 blocks from where he grew up…as an infant and visited my grandparents there several times a year.
You missed Theil's connection to Musk. Trump picks Vance, Musk endorses Trump and contributes $45 million/month to a Trump super PAC...and that's just a start. Vance is Putin's favourite Senator. Oh, but Biden is too old(not) and I'm Canadian and can't vote.
It's weird because there are many very conservative white hollers in Eastern Kentucky where it's not as much a problem being gay, but God forbid you say that you're a vegan or a Democrat. Human cultures are fascinatingly complex.
Crazy and they used to all be Democrat before that entire area turned Republican. The people didn't change, the families didn't leave. Same thing happened in WV and OK.
So he says “we do not like outsiders or people who are different from us, whether the difference lies in how they look, act, or… talk”, but he’s married to a woman from india, where his kids have indian names. Seems weird.
A lot of things don't add up with Vance. The impression I get is that he's been playing a long game, setting himself up for a power grab by creating this regular-guy narrative. Trump should watch his back.
Unfortunately I bought the Vance and Trump books. Oh well. We need to wake people up to what MAGA people and Trump are up too. Sharing information about Project 2025 is a good start. Bernie Sanders had clear and strong statements on July 7 on Face the Nation. He proposed ideas on what to offer people to win the November elections.
To seasteaders: That's not how international waters work! What that means is the coast guard or navy will take you back to the county that your boat "originated" from, i.e. where the boat is registered for trial if they suspect or caught you doing something illegal. Its not permission to do whatever you want. Also international waters start once you're about 2 miles or so from the coast of any sovereign nation and are in the ocean, lakes or rivers don't count
Dude, did you even read the book? JD Vance was referring to the common attitude of the Appalachian area he grew up in. You keep coming back and back to the part about not liking other people and their speech, JD Vance was referring to that in his book as narrow-mindedness he had to overcome.
Excellent piece. Strong and concise. Nice work! BTW, my Appalachian, Church of Christ father was deeply convinced that LOTR was the work of the Evil One. He saw it as a gateway to Satanism. Kind of ironic that he was also a committed Trump supporter. Now that I know Thiel espouses LOTR tropes, I may have to rethink my Dad's take on all this.
Thiel doesn't "espouse" LOTR tropes, he has appropriated Tolkien's names without the Tolkien Estate's permission, in the same way that Sauron subverted the palantíri for his own use in order to corrupt Denethor and Saruman. It's also significant that when the dwarves of Moria "delved too greedily and too deep" for mithril it led to their destruction by a demonic balrog. The lust for power and riches always leads to a downfall in Middle-earth. "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world." JRR Tolkien, "The Hobbit" Your dad should know that Tolkien was a devout Christian and deliberately and explicitly embedded Christian values into his works. He believed in the power of myth to tell eternal truths, even myths about a pre-Christian world. "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" are, after all, primarily about how ordinary people can band together to fight evil. The greatest message from Tolkien's works is one of hope. "There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tower high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach." JRR Tolkien, "The Return of the King"
@@eidolon1809 Just so, my friend. Please forgive me if I have triggered you. Perhaps my use of "espoused" was ill-advised. My departed, esteemed father was wrong in his assessment, of both LOTR and Trump. Obviously, Thiel is as well. My suggestion that I might rethink the goodness of Tolkien's message was very tongue-in-cheek.
Vance was a former class President at Springfield High, campaigning with Homer and another student. Many years later, however, Homer found out that his former principal, Harlan Dondelinger, had rigged the election in Vance's favor. He later explained that two students had got their classmates to vote for Homer as a joke, so they could laugh at him all throughout high school for thinking they really meant it. As such, Vance grew up successful, and eventually became a wealthy business owner. However, in an alternate reality, if Vance hadn't been elected class president, he most likely would have lived Homer's life, with a dead-end job at the Springfield Power Plant, stuck with an annoying neighbor, and having problems with his father. Vance gave Lenny and Carl his kidneys.
It looks like Elon Musk made his bid for Space, Satellite Communication and Electric vehicle oligarch. For a modest kickback Musk can get the US government to subsidize all his businesses.
A version of the video that explains this same info to people not particularly tuned into politics would be useful. I pay a lot of attention to politics but those I’ve been warning about Trump/MAGA/Project2025 and now JD Vance, don’t and so they won’t understand much of it.
Not to nitpick, but I believe the three elven rings were made without Sauron’s influence, which is why the elven ringbearers were not corrupted like the 9 kings of men or the dwarfen kings. … I’ll see myself out.
@@eidolon1809 Knew he was picky about the spelling, but possibly misremembered which way he spelled it. Are you sure Tolkein used 'Dwarves' though? I felt sure that Tolkein used Dwarfs whilst warhammer and other media used Dwarves?
Let there be no letup from you guys. The truth must carry the day! 🎉
Help, help - I just suffered a near-fatal dose of JVL's sarcasm.
Imma watch it again ...
He calls Alex jones a “truth teller”…that’s literally all you have to know about JD Vance.
The hallmark of MAGA is that they speak what George Orwell referred to as doublespeak.
The Republican Party is the opposite of everything America stands for.
Holy moly. That actually made me laugh out loud . Thanks, this shit show has got me terrified.
@@dribrom “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
@@rapidsqualor5367 Orwell really summarized what "Ingsoc", the ideology of "The Party" in the novel 1984, meant in that quote.
Perfect show. Same goes for Tim's. No BS. no rambling on forever. kick ass info. good job.
If authenticity and integrity or any of this mattered, we wouldn't be here. We're in the upside-down. I love JVL for caring....
J.D. Vance is a weasel, election denier, etc! Thank you JVL for the literal knowledge od him!!
Hopefully enough Americans have opened their eyes and ears to see the Truth. If not, the next lesson will be a living nightmare.
Anyone who can make 180° phase change, is a man with no principles, he follows which direction and wind is blowing.
Kinda like Niki Haley
Good luck, America!!
And good night.
VOTE DEMOCRATIC TO SAVE US FROM donnie and jd
"He said that... On PBS... Y'know... What all the hillbillies watch." 😂😂😂 OMFG! LOL
Please talk about JDVance's support of domestic violence and wife beaters. He said said that women should stay in "chaotic" marriages even if they are violent for the sake of the children.
He's also characterized rape as an inconvenience
I was shocked he didn't mention any of that AT ALL. Like wtf...
@@the7percentsolution It's just surfacing now...at least one speech he gave in California surfacing but he also gave a speech at Steubenville (It's a big Catholic youth conference held at Franciscan University in OH) doubling down on the sentiments. It kind of blew up in Catholic news circles. Vance is a convert to Catholicism and has taken many positions which are at odds with Catholic social teaching. This is one of them (Catholic teaching on this is safety first even if it getting to safety means getting a civil divorce to protect yourself and your children...It gets more complicated from there but it is safety first)
Vance is deeply principled, his principle being, whatever deepens his pockets.
The Chief Justice just recently joined a ruling where the Supreme Court voluntarily surrendered a great deal of its power to the President.
I look at it as scrotus made themselves the final arbiter as to what acts are official or unofficial, rulings subject of course dependent on whether or not they like the party holding the office at that given time...giving themselves incredible power.
@@ecstanton If Trump ascends to the Presidency again their rulings will be irrelevant.
Thank you, JVL. Now I have even more reasons to be frightened about Nov. 😢
Hang in there, JVL. You sound so sad in this video, but you're tough and brave and Americans need you.
The first thing you need to know about JD is that he doesn't hale from the hollers of Eastern KY. It's important. His whole up from the holler shtick is a fraud.
Goodness, for someone who wants to have his own country, he has sure made a lot of money off of one with lots of rules!
Like his pal Elon Musk.
Imagine how successful they could have been in a stable nation with consistant laws and norms like Russia or South Africa.. 😅
You forgot to mention JD's fabulous use of eye liner
Excellent piece, JVL. All that Peter Thiel stuff is terrifying....he is a total weirdo.
Love ya Jonathan you always tell the truth
Peter Thiel is a Skeksis, and J.D. Vance hails from the hollers of Ohio. A match made in heaven.
This is gold. 💰💰💰
Great presentation, thank you!
Preach JVL!
I find it gratuitous a Yale Law Graduate would identify as a Scotch Irish Hillbilly.
Vance is so obviously a hollow opportunist
holler
That's a holler opportunist...
Now on my todo list: Side-by-side read of _Mein Kampf_ and _Hillbilly Elegy_
MK and Project 2025 might be a closer connection.
Brilliant JVL! Your edge of sarcasm always makes tough truths go down easy
I choked when you were talking about the gay vampire. Omg you are so funny!! I needed that today buddy
Wow! No words.
That part about Hulk Hogan made me spit out my water.
JVL, Great piece. Informative and as funny as hell. And at the same time damn terrifying. What I see is a guy who will be whoever he needs to be in the pursuit of wealth and power, devoid of any moral compass. So it’s a felon and a hillbilly. A fraudulent real estate developer/ reality tv star and a venture capitalist. Neither qualified to do the job but leading a populist movement. God help us all.
Succinct and humorous... you have so much material with JD
Well, I've cooled off on you guys a lot lately, but this was very good JVL. Thank you!
same. def not here for biden bashing.
All hail JVL! That was fantastic. So, so funny….. terrifying too (if Trump wins and JD Vance is a heartbeat from power!). But, right now, I’ll just enjoy the much-needed laughter generated by JVL’s always unique take in these times when, as he would NEVER dream of saying, “Everything is terrible!” 😂❤
Vance don't tawk like he's from dese parts.
He's unlearned more than he's learned.
Thiel - Sounds like real life pizza gate
Pizza gate is projection - accuse the others of what you do yourself.
Thank you for making this entertaining!!!
Peter Theil is a vampire. 🦇
Crazy right? No joke, no conspiracy, literally injects young blood and wants to live forever. Insane times.
It should be emphasized that Vance is not actually from Appalachia, as is often reported, but from Middletown, Ohio, a suburb of Cincinnati. Vance does not represent Appalachia, or "hillbillies" in any way except in his own mind.
One minor correction, JVL - Celebrimbor, not Sauron, forged the Three Rings, including Narya. Sauron famously never touched the Three Rings. Narya was originally given to Curran, who then gave it to Gandalf to assist in his labors
is this a straw-man account for Stephen Colbert? Stephen, is this u? ❤
Celebrimbor gave Narya and Vilya to Gil-galad, who entrusted Narya to Cirdan the Shipwright, who then entrusted it to Gandalf. Vilya went to Elrond after Gil-galad, and the third one, Nenya, was only worn by Galadriel.
But that's just a minor correction to a minor correction. I hope Peter Thiel and JD Vance meet a Balrog someday.
Justin: you are a glorious nerd and I love you.
Ummm, actually, Sauron didn't make the three elven rings. They were made by Celebrimbor. That's why the bearers of the three were able to withstand Sauron's corruption and hide their realms from him, unlike the seven and the nine.
And Thiel doesn't have permission from the Tolkien Estate to use Tolkien's names.
Dear JVL,
You are my FAVORITE savage on the Bulwark team! Keep up the good work, cause you left Vance in ribbons on the floor! 💋💯🔥
Thiel quietly became a New Zealand citizen in 2011 but has no intention of living there....
Good luck America!
JVL: If the facts weren’t so utterly pathetic, the contents of this video would be found in the comedy section of Blockbuster. BTW, don’t forget Tiger Mom sent attractive females to Kavanaugh, advising to look sexy to get the clerkship. Class act. Finally, the quote at the end is usually attributed to Andrew Jackson when he ignored Chief Justice Marshall’s recognition of tribal sovereignty and had the Cherokees pack it up and take the long walk to Oklahoma. Trump supposedly admires Jackson. Charming indeed.
Calling JD Vance “Kentucky Hillbilly” is like calling me full-blown New Yawk Brooklyn Irish.
My mother was. I was born in Park Slope in 1955 and my parents moved to suburban New Jersey in 1958….so NO…I’m not some boomer version of Pete Hamill…even though I lived 2 blocks from where he grew up…as an infant and visited my grandparents there several times a year.
JD is a remarkable tool, using Trump as a stepping stone to his next step in politics.
I have a hillbilly allergy.👎
Putin wants him, thats why he got the nomination
You missed Theil's connection to Musk. Trump picks Vance, Musk endorses Trump and contributes $45 million/month to a Trump super PAC...and that's just a start. Vance is Putin's favourite Senator. Oh, but Biden is too old(not) and I'm Canadian and can't vote.
I’m so terrified
12. He apparently is a guyliner enthusiast
Thanks for the information.
Wow! He’s another Senator Graham. First he was a never Trumper and now he’s a forever Trumper. I wonder what 45 has on Vance?
Great read on Vance🙌🏼👍🏼 One more thing. JD Vance is also a believer in the Manichean religion.🤔. Now try to decipher that crap. Biden/Harris 2025💙🗳️
JD Vance stands for Just Don’t Vote for me
Good grief….
Millennial thing?! Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!!
Superb. JVL should speak at the DNC convention.
It's weird because there are many very conservative white hollers in Eastern Kentucky where it's not as much a problem being gay, but God forbid you say that you're a vegan or a Democrat. Human cultures are fascinatingly complex.
Crazy and they used to all be Democrat before that entire area turned Republican. The people didn't change, the families didn't leave. Same thing happened in WV and OK.
And JD Vance is from a suburb of Cincinnati, Ohio, not Kentucky.
Thanks for the information!
Vance grew up being smarter than all the other kids in his town and it got to his head?
You should read the book. Very interesting.
But the SCOTUS is already deferring to Trump, so we don’t have to worry about Vance’s comment about “let them enforce” 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 … 😭😭😭😭😭
So he says “we do not like outsiders or people who are different from us, whether the difference lies in how they look, act, or… talk”, but he’s married to a woman from india, where his kids have indian names. Seems weird.
A lot of things don't add up with Vance. The impression I get is that he's been playing a long game, setting himself up for a power grab by creating this regular-guy narrative. Trump should watch his back.
Peter Thiel isn't really welcome in the gay community, either.
Do these liberals have a life outside of their hate, & pettiness?
Unfortunately I bought the Vance and Trump books. Oh well.
We need to wake people up to what MAGA people and Trump are up too.
Sharing information about Project 2025 is a good start.
Bernie Sanders had clear and strong statements on July 7 on Face the Nation. He proposed ideas on what to offer people to win the November elections.
Um he’s from Ohio not Kentucky. Other than that I’m with ya
Come on JVL, the three elven rings were never touched by Sauron
To seasteaders: That's not how international waters work! What that means is the coast guard or navy will take you back to the county that your boat "originated" from, i.e. where the boat is registered for trial if they suspect or caught you doing something illegal. Its not permission to do whatever you want. Also international waters start once you're about 2 miles or so from the coast of any sovereign nation and are in the ocean, lakes or rivers don't count
A Vice President with just over a year of experience in Politics? INSANE
Great job
Dude, did you even read the book? JD Vance was referring to the common attitude of the Appalachian area he grew up in. You keep coming back and back to the part about not liking other people and their speech, JD Vance was referring to that in his book as narrow-mindedness he had to overcome.
That is true and a good point, but JVL is using that as a literary device in this takedown poetry. F J.D. Vance and his sellout wife double.
Thanks for the lowdown on Tech Bro Veep.
JVL we need your voice more than ever.
I’m a Biden lover but agree that he needs to step down in order to defeat Trump.
So you're saying he's presidential material
He is insulting the Scotch-Irish with this comment.
Thank you. He is, indeed, painting with a very broad brush.
JVL is not always right! The three weren't made by Sauron, but by Celembrimbor.
Excellent piece. Strong and concise. Nice work! BTW, my Appalachian, Church of Christ father was deeply convinced that LOTR was the work of the Evil One. He saw it as a gateway to Satanism. Kind of ironic that he was also a committed Trump supporter. Now that I know Thiel espouses LOTR tropes, I may have to rethink my Dad's take on all this.
Thiel doesn't "espouse" LOTR tropes, he has appropriated Tolkien's names without the Tolkien Estate's permission, in the same way that Sauron subverted the palantíri for his own use in order to corrupt Denethor and Saruman. It's also significant that when the dwarves of Moria "delved too greedily and too deep" for mithril it led to their destruction by a demonic balrog. The lust for power and riches always leads to a downfall in Middle-earth.
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."
JRR Tolkien, "The Hobbit"
Your dad should know that Tolkien was a devout Christian and deliberately and explicitly embedded Christian values into his works. He believed in the power of myth to tell eternal truths, even myths about a pre-Christian world. "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" are, after all, primarily about how ordinary people can band together to fight evil.
The greatest message from Tolkien's works is one of hope.
"There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tower high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
JRR Tolkien, "The Return of the King"
@@eidolon1809 Just so, my friend. Please forgive me if I have triggered you. Perhaps my use of "espoused" was ill-advised. My departed, esteemed father was wrong in his assessment, of both LOTR and Trump. Obviously, Thiel is as well. My suggestion that I might rethink the goodness of Tolkien's message was very tongue-in-cheek.
@@sbeckwitboth of you are so wholesome here, I love it.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that JD Vance grew up in a suburb of Cincinnati, not the Appalachians.
Vance was a former class President at Springfield High, campaigning with Homer and another student.
Many years later, however, Homer found out that his former principal, Harlan Dondelinger, had rigged the election in Vance's favor. He later explained that two students had got their classmates to vote for Homer as a joke, so they could laugh at him all throughout high school for thinking they really meant it. As such, Vance grew up successful, and eventually became a wealthy business owner.
However, in an alternate reality, if Vance hadn't been elected class president, he most likely would have lived Homer's life, with a dead-end job at the Springfield Power Plant, stuck with an annoying neighbor, and having problems with his father.
Vance gave Lenny and Carl his kidneys.
Scary Stuff!
Best of luck America
It looks like Elon Musk made his bid for Space, Satellite Communication and Electric vehicle oligarch. For a modest kickback Musk can get the US government to subsidize all his businesses.
#12- Unlike our current Vice-President, JD Vance is competent.
Has anyone ever *FACT CHECKED* JP Mandel “life story??”
Cause the math aint mathin?? 🤔
😂😂😂😂 Trump and JD a match made in hell. Oh Donald enjoy babysitting the heir apparent 🍾
I think the 1 and only fact we need to know about this sellout guy is that trump isngoing to fire him before the end of the convention.
His neck measurements?
Yikes!!!
A version of the video that explains this same info to people not particularly tuned into politics would be useful. I pay a lot of attention to politics but those I’ve been warning about Trump/MAGA/Project2025 and now JD Vance, don’t and so they won’t understand much of it.
Good point. I go around thinking people know this stuff, the craziness and the danger, but they don't have the first idea about any of it
Yeah, so Trump is old too. And THIS is the backup plan. Hrmm…
JD Vance is from Middleton Ohio which is about 30 miles north of Cincinnati and that is not in Appalachia
The introduction of the book exposes him to be a racist at heart.
Not to nitpick, but I believe the three elven rings were made without Sauron’s influence, which is why the elven ringbearers were not corrupted like the 9 kings of men or the dwarfen kings.
…
I’ll see myself out.
Nitpick: Tolkien preferred to use the plural "dwarves" and got into arguments with his publisher about it.
@@eidolon1809 Knew he was picky about the spelling, but possibly misremembered which way he spelled it. Are you sure Tolkein used 'Dwarves' though? I felt sure that Tolkein used Dwarfs whilst warhammer and other media used Dwarves?
Great video. One minor point: Chua pronounces her last name like chew-ah.
Informative ... thank you...
JD Vance said when Trump is President , he has no need for a Supreme Court!
There's no need to paint all Millennials with the Vance brush