"White Trash" Historian Nancy Isenberg on J.D. Vance, "Hillbilly Elegy" & Class in America
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American historian and the author of White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America, Nancy Isenberg, calls Republican vice-presidential nominee J.D. Vance a peddler of the "self-made man myth." Isenberg criticizes Hilbilly Elegy, the memoir that propelled him to fame, as a deceptive way of selling this myth and the conservative politics it comes with. "Much of what his memoir says tells us nothing about real class conditions," Isenberg says, pointing to her own historical and sociological research on the rural poor in the United States.
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As a retired black veteran i can assure you that trash comes in all colors rich or poor, what really makes us great is the ability to see past classes and look into what makes us all human and that's the capacity to reason and decern what's good in us individually.
Well commented. The cursed Caste system in the Hindu faith still dominates in India. Cannot for the life of me understand a human being made of flesh and blood can be inferior or superior especially in the eyes of God. To Dust thou are and to Dust your will return is my motto.
@@agnescraig2912 That system has played a part in many societies around the world and is noe very evident in the way the people of Palestine are being treated by the people occupying their lands
Yes, its not "love" that makes the world go 'round, it's respect. Anyone that combines reason, diligence, and perseverance can begin from what ever "status" and eventually obtain their goals, .
Thank you for your service sir,, and true honest statement.....
@@kevintownsend3840Jew and women hater u Islamo neo nazi
Being poor does not make you trash. It is how you live as a poor person, your character and how you act.
Rich people can be W- trash
Absolutely!
that's pretty much understood, cuz if you don't act like trash, no one will know you're poor
I agree 👍
I agree with you, but I'm not sure the wealthier class always makes those distinctions.
I was raised in a coal patch in SW PA. My mother, a first generation American, was the cleanest housekeeper in the midst of many clean hardworking households. My dad served in the armed forces and neither parent finished high school. They were married for 56 years until my dad’s death. I’m college educated and learned a long time ago not to put people in boxes. Some of the very best people I’ve known in my 70 years came from the humblest beginnings.
Bless you 🥰
Same hear.[and same age] they just dont like the salt of the earth,never did,they need us for war,and taxes.
♥
Yep
Exactly & now they are all considered white trash, including your family, according to this woman.
She is saying that trash is a term that rich people use to demean poor people. Not that poor people are trash. Please watch the video
Poor people use the same term to describe rich people. Euro trash, jet set trash, Kardashian trash... and on and on. She has no valid point. She's a leftover from a 60's education that she gained in the 70's. It's as irrelevant now as it was then. Class warfare is the fodder of communism, period. That's where she's coming from. The LEFT.
Better yet, read her book, which I strongly recommend.
The notion of poor being trash is too ingrained for most of these people to think they've been fooled by the self made man myth.
Thank you! I can’t tell you how annoying it is to read comment after comment going on about ”being poor doesn’t mean you’re trash😡” and ”my mother was born __, never finished high school and worked as a waitress all her life, she wasn’t white trash😔” like, yes, that’s exactly what she’s saying?? Just because the title of her book is white trash doesn’t mean she stands for what that term means wtf😅😅
@@maerr I know for real. That's why I had to write this
Being poor does not mean that you are trash. I've met very rich people who are very much trash
The mentality of trump/vance and the republican party enriching themselves gaining power at the expense of suffering Americans
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
and this is very american, no royal lines, no 2nd lang
@@ginxxxxxthere are aristocratic lines in the USA but they dre not from nobility but from grnrrational wealth.
@@carlossaraiva8213 i don't think you understand how bad it was and its like arguing with someone who willingly wants to go back to pre history and really it is not a good idea
Black immigrant here, I came to US at 10, my parent told me I came for an education and a better life, I went to a school in the ghetto and lived there but I paid attention in school, join activities, went to college, went law school, nursing school, 3 degrees, six figure salary now live in the suburbs. So the opportunities are here but you need a stable home and family life and support. The education system is available, no my school was not as great as the richest towns but it was good enough to educate me and allow me do do decent on the SATs. The reality is you parents are the key to your success, they have to lay the foundation and do their part
You didn't have to deal with Jim Crow
@owibee7 I couldn't agree with you more, your family and your parents love are ultimately important. I am 76 and my parents were first generation Americans born to german immigrant parents. My life and my success I owe to a solid family life in which I was raised. Money was secondary, what was in your heart was primary. As I grow older the memories I have of my family are my greatest joy still.
Opportunity in America is NOT a myth. It is reality. Ask all the immigrants who line up outside our embassies and consulates abroad trying to come here.
Finances also plays a big part. Not all of us received support from the government.
Goverment showers miney o. Poor..food stamps, free doctors, paying most of rent, all sorts of programs for kids.. @@Meee22222
I once asked a John Deere vice president what he thought about class.. He told me class was how you treat others, not a circumstance of birth. You treat everyone with the same respect.That allows people the chance to prove their character regardless of family history or education. Smart man.
Class is also about poverty.
You had to ask someone for the answer?
I would cautious about listening to a professor pontificate about the distinction between white trash and rednecks.
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@@marianhunt8899 No not true. People from poverty raise themselves up out of that poverty. Unless there is class warfare, i.e. rich vs poor and we could never have that today... \s
Very interesting!
She's not saying poor people are trash, she's explaining where the term comes from!
Well said response to Nancy Isenberg's purposeful choice of title. Thank you. And thank you, Nancy!
I've read her book and it's excellent; heavily researched and annotated, it exposes the myth of America as a supposed classless society. The only unfortunate thing about the book is that I've learned from experience, if I write the book's name in the comment field here, the UA-cam algorithms will decide that I'm denigrating someone with trigger words and they will delete the comment.....
I don't care if you are blue orange green purple yellow or black or brown. The only thing that matters is your character and integrity. Your honesty and your compassion. Got to have a heart ♥ and soul. Also loyalty. Without these you are nothing. 😢😢😢
Best words I have heard in a long long time.
You can always spot the idiots that have never lived around any blacks or browns.
But the first thing one sees about people is their skin tone and the stereotypes leap to mind immediately. Then you have to put that aside and look for character and integrity.
And personal responsibility, part of that important character and integrity, something absolutely anathema to the left. Say "personal responsibility" to their faces and be called a "bigot", "racist" and "phobic" of any number of things. No, we are not afraid, merely disgusted. Personal responsibility is the equal part of every right. They are inseparable. They want "rights" and absolutely NO responsibility.
I think MLK said something similar, then was assassinated for it. This is America 😂
My father made a good living as a skilled machinist but I have 8 siblings and we lived like poor people because it's expensive to raise kids. We were often looked down on but we were all taught morals, respect, integrity, and responsibility, we all grew up to do well for ourselves and our kids have done even better. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't change a thing.
Well said ! We didn`t have a lot when I grew up but had an amazing childhood . No computers or video games but we made our own fun "OUTSIDE" . My parent`s generation raised their kids with responsibility ,rules and morals . A lot of kids today are too entitled .
No, u lived like poor people because your parents had 9 kids. It's not because it's expensive. It's because there were too many of u.
@@btlmania64rules , resoonsiloties and morals as set by straight white Christian men 😂 not by logic and rationality and humanism.
@@I_wish_i_was_wrongno they lived like poor people because of the way our economy is set up to advantage the wealthy people, the people right here, the rich liberal. Story as old as time. Odd that the people listening here don’t already know this.
Nicely said.
72 year old Southerner here- I always heard “poor white trash” used to describe poor who were perceived as lazy and probably a little criminal. The “poor” could be hard working, honest people and would not be referred to as “trash”.
There has always been that division: between the "deserving poor" and the "feckless" working class". But that is usually in the eye of the beholder - dissidents, radicals, those who the rulers chose to deport (to the Americas, or Australia). The 'deserving' poor knuckled under, tugged their forelocks and obeyed. You can still see that division when you see the vilification of protestors today - in both our countries. Obey, or adapt is Vance is doing, sing the right song - and you can be accepted, or at least, tolerated.
People forget the working class were the muscle hard labour,farmers so with tech and capitalism we have gone from good physical for filling Jobs to being not needed put in horrible low paid low skilled jobs over worked under paid and lack of identity pride and boredom depression and unemployment poverty add junk food drugs they are vunerble
In the midwest, calling them poor is redundant, and calling them trash just "explains" why they're poor. After all, it's not like the creation and maintenance of an impoverished class is a necessary feature of a capitalistic society. 🙄
Its always a jew calling people poor white trash.
Here in the Ozarks, we resemble that! 🤠🪕 Most of the older families are Appalachian by extraction. One family I know owns 2 or 3 sections of beautiful Ozarks land, because their 4x grandfather got a land grant for fighting in the Mexican War. He was a Tennessee Volunteer. 🇺🇸🤠🪕
Too many people are not realizing that the book isnt about whether being poor is good or bad.
Its about the origins of class in the US, and how it evolved through our nations history.
This woman is a historian.
Ahhh....the origins of class, huh? So J.D. Vance's job is to convince people there is class differences in the U.S. Wow. That clears a lot up for me. Thanks. I really didn't want to read that book. So can you see how Vance is a tool now? Read the Gulag Archipelago and a little something about the Russian Revolution and maybe you can connect some dots. Or maybe not.
I grew up the only black kid in the neighborhood for a while in what used to be the rural outskirts of Seattle. Our neighbors were upper middle-class white ultra-religious christians with children the same age as me. They always treated me well and I spent a lot of time at their home. Never did I hear anything from them about race or class as it pertained to me or my family. But when a new white family from rural Colorado moved in on the block who didn't dress as nice, didn't own their home, drove dingy cars and I became friends with their son, everything changed. One day on the bus home from school, my Christian friend started gleeking (spitting) on my new friend from Colorado. After repeated warnings to stop, my Colorado friend caught up to him as we walked home and I had to step between the two so my Christian friend wouldn't get beat up. Later, when I visited my Christian friend, he and his father, questioned me on why I didn't back their son up more and I said because he was spitting on him and he was in the wrong. The Chistian father then told me something that shocked me. He said, "Raw, don't hang out with those people, they are what we call white trash and they're different." After that, I knew I had to choose between my two friends and I chose the new (so-called) white trash kid from Colorado. We remained the best of friends all the way into adulthood and his eventual death. He was the most caring kindhearted man I ever knew.
Thank God. Someone that truly sees the class system.
I'm white and was raised in the projects. The poorest of the poor. My mom was a single parent with serious alcohol & bf problems.
I've never had any white privilege a day in my life.
It's GREEN PRIVILEGE PEOPLE. If you have money you have privilege. Bottom line
Sounds like the father taught his child the new kid should be spit upon, otherwise your friend would have never exhibited such behavior on the new kid from Colorado.
To Raw, what a beautiful story. Thank you for defending my people.
THANKS FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL STORY.
Beautiful story but also very educating one for specially someone who not familiar with USA culture.
Thank you sir ❤and respect from UK.
My daughter has worked hard for her wealth, but she was raised poor and she thanks us often, for teaching her hard work, responsibility and integrity.
Sure she does, that's only happening in your mind. No one says thank you for raising me poor
@@somethinggood-sy1ed Are you saying that this person's daughter is lying? How would you know?
@@somethinggood-sy1edwhat about all the nepo babies who complain about their childhoods? xD Elon musk doing Adderall lines and talking about his bad childhood lmfao
@@somethinggood-sy1edI Would Rather Have A Poor And Decent Family, Than Have A Rich Dysfunctional 😈 Family😂..
BS, most people that work hard die poor! It's the way it is! One gets rich by having poor people working for you!
The billionaire class views everyone who isn't them as dispensable.
Bingo!
The millionaire class views everyone who isn’t them as despicable
"deplorables"
Billionaires are primarily Democrats in 2024
Republicans are now the Working class Reps
They also view common people as "tools" to be used and then discarded
“This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore.
A people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong. And such a people, deprived of the power to think and judge, is, without knowing and willing it, completely subjected to the rule of lies.
With such a people, you can do whatever you want.”
-Hannah Arendt, German historian and philosopher (1906-1975)
That quote is extremely pertinent today, thank you for posting it.
Including turning them into fascists without them even realizing it. During the rise of fascism in 1930’s Germany, Hesse tried to tell the German folks that love was greater than hate, but they were too far gone. They drank that Kool Aid . Now, just 80 years later, Americans are swilling the same Kool Aid. The fact it only took one failed grifter to sell that Kool Aid is dismaying.
Democracy requires voters with a little bit of education and critical thinking skills. Disturbed voters who allow Fox News to do their thinking for them repeatedly vote for the party which is designed to make their lives more miserable. You’d think they would at least notice the red states they live in have been kept in poverty decade after decade might benefit from a change in voting direction.
I agree with that. This explains the populistic diversity based social engineering going on. It also explains the gender based unscientific desinformation being fed to us by media, left politicians and big corporations. And last but most important of all. It can absolutely be used to explain the 2030 agenda of the WEF.
When moral relativism became acceptable, immoral politics became inevitable. We get the leaders we deserve.
@@lindalarson1948 Good one.
Trash is not an economic status, it is an attitude. There are poor people who stand over the wealthy.
How do poor people stand over the wealthy? Sounds like a oxymoron. Would love to hear this nonsense
Morality, character, grace and intelligence can be found in poor people and lacking in wealthy people.
@@harrietjohnson1930true
Trash has zero to do with where you come from or what you have it has everything to do with life experience, intelligence, tenacity, values,integrity and moral character.
Y'all listen to anything she said, or do you just like to hear yourself comment without actually having a real dialogue?
Don’t judge people for not growing up with a silver spoon in their mouth, but for their character, moral values, conviction, and the aptitude to fight for American Freedoms.
trump should be judged for being born with a spoon in his mouth only to lie cheat and steal from others for 50 years
It's not ok to refer to any race as "trash".
@@Doctor.Kapow. No human being is trash in the site of God.
What a nasty person is Isenberg. J D Vance is a wonderful man who pulled himself by himself when he only had one old woman to help him. Many of us grew up in poverty. Many had degenerate parents. Some had the brainpower to overcome this poverty. You should be giving him a heads up instead of striking him down. You madam are one of the educated fools Mark Twain spoke about. No common sense. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Define American freedoms
I couldnt give a hoot if some one called me white trash. Im poor, have worked in caring compassionate jobs looking after people to the best of my ability all my life, am honest, trustworthy, loyal and kind. If somebody called me white trash it would say more about them than it would about me. 🥰
@@HOLLYHOCKFLOWERS More than I can say than a lot of educated fools like this woman. She has no common sense. Proud of you
@@HOLLYHOCKFLOWERS More than I can say than a lot of educated fools like this woman. She has no common sense. Proud of you.
Amen!
@@HOLLYHOCKFLOWERS White trash is what the elites, those with money and power think of us poor and middle income people. I would say we have more goodness and truth in us than they have in their little fingers. Donald Trump is the first true gentleman who cares about everyone that has come along in hundreds of years.
Trash, of any color, comes into existence when one feels they don't need to work for a living, live a moral life, keep a tidy home and property, take care of one's family, and help out a neighbor when able. Skin color, where one lives, what one does for a living doesn't matter.
So refreshing to hear someone unravel the myths about race and class in America
One thing I learned from serving my country in the armed forces is that we are a diverse people United by principles of freedom. I detest social elitests. These are the very people that look down their noses at the ones that provide their liberty.
I look down my nose at ignorance, rudeness and meanness and Trump and Vance are all of that big bullies and garbage humans their colour is completely irrelevant
Amen!
Well said. I would only add, they are the ones responsible for scores of oh-so virtuous little Marxists running around, with zero regard for our founding covenants... let alone,freedom!
Absolutely the post of the month.
These dumbass nonners with fancy degrees and no life experience have pissed me off for a long time, brother! They have no idea what kind of people (like us) who served honorable. Peace!
I heard an interview with a black woman in the 1930’s relaying a conversation with her grandmother who was enslaved. She said that wealthy white people were always pitting poor white and black people against each other.
I read Gone with the Wind and that's what it was all about.
T rump practices that every day....
@@PaulaMionthe left is the world's largest H A t. e. group
@@PaulaMionyou have the censors and the corporate ESG scores on your side. The left is a corporate psy. op.
The left is the world's largest ha. te. group.
@@PaulaMion
Oh yeah? Name one example of him doing that.
I can’t believe people still use the term “LatinX” despite it being widely rejected by the Latino community
It makes me vomit
But the racist liberals who use the term don't care what the Latino community wants if it doesn't march in step with the left.
I agree, but it's not something that was pushed on Latinos by whites. The term originated with Latino activists. And so is the term widely rejected for the grammar, or because of transphobia? I ask - I don't know the answer. But would there be as much objection if it was not about trans acceptance?
@@Kunsoo1024was never about trans. It's just more Leftist power plays...
Do you speak Spanish, or another latin language? If you do, then you understand how wrong a term like latinx sounds.
@@Kunsoo1024
Elitists are definitely NOT self-made.
I have driven through the south. Everything that is said about of them, is true.
Poor vs. Poor for a slice of the Pie has always been the strategy of the Rulers.
The Republicans...
too true
ABSOLUTELY.
RepeliCONs Cacastrami
And inject black people it gave the “ trash” someone to be called better than
My late World War II veteran husband always said I've met a lot of educated fools in my life. This lady fits in that bracket very well
And is that woman at 0:10 creepy or what? Holy crap.
100% correct Brenda
@brenda121143
This Isenberg is probably one of the democrats that for 8 years has been saying that president Trump is a threat to democracy. Yet her ilk has orchestrated a coup against the P-resident of the United States.
Are you saying that Nancy Isenberg is an educated fool?! Can you expand on that?
@@austindarrenor - Why are you putting people down ? Are looks that important? She could be a much better human being than you …
I grew up in a one-room shack and was dirt-floor poor. My dad was a WW2 disabled veteran and I barely graduated from high school. I went into the Navy in 1962 and used my GI benefits to attend college, and just like Vance, I attended law school and practiced law in Florida for 30 years. What many people fail to realize is that hundreds of thousands of us weren't born with silver spoons in our mouths, all we had was a nation that allowed us Hillbillys to achieve success. Merica
So you and your father are one of those 16 million veterans?
Amen Brother!
The GI bill did a lot to lift poor people (mostly whites as it was discriminatory). My father was also dirt poor - grew up in a shack with no indoor plumbing. After his peacetime military service in the early early 60s, he took full advantage of the GI bill to get him through college and business school. Our family was comfortably middle class when I was growing up. My parents even made it to the upper end of middle class after us kids were grown, successfully through school and on our own. Government programs like the GI Bill do work. That little investment allowed my parents and us to contribute to the economy as consumers and tax payers - more than paid for itself.
Agreed. JD Vance is not unique in any way. And he has certainly milked his background for everything its worth -- there are thousands to millions just like him. Vance also has a billionaire -- Peter Thiel who has backed him repeatedly since Yale Law School which is somewhat odd. Wondering what that quid pro quo is all about.
So you're voting against the Democracy that made your accomplishments possible.
Gotcha.
I'm 80 years old. My dad had to drop out of school in the 8th grade to take care of his siblings. His first job was washing Greyhound buses and making $0.25 an hour. He died a millionaire in 1997 at the age of 84 years old. Somehow by the time I was old enough to walk He had already made a handsome living and provided a wonderful place for us to live. I had loving Christian parents who brought me up in a home of nothing but pure peace. For this reason and many more, it hurts so much at my age to see what children are growing up in today. They're clueless about so many things and it's the parents faults.
It's not necessarily the parents fault, it's the system's fault. My family line was successful until my grandfather passed away young. My grandmother was tricked into selling off his hard earned wealth because "a woman can't handle those things". My grandmother became very depressed and struggled as a window to raise 2 daughters without help. Without a patriarchal home structure, my mother was not given the proper support. That's not my mom or my grandmother's fault. Society does not have proper support and forces success to depend on a man running the household. As a result I grew up very poor. I have worked my way out of poverty but continue to see how much harder living in this country is without a man and his boys to help. It's a damn shame and a perspective few acknowledge. Success should not be reserved for men and the rest of us should not have to feel shame because this system was not designed for our success. I'm glad your father was able to retire as a millionaire. I wish my grandfather made it to retirement. Maybe my life would have turned out differently.
I am from poor white trash, a hillbilly. I came home from public school crying as a young boy because the kids were calling me a hillbilly. I was from the hills of Tennessee and was part of the great white migration to Chicago in the 50s. My mu (mother to those who don’t speak hillbilly) hugged me and told me the next time someone calls you a hillbilly just tell them there’s (ibid) only two types of people in the world hillbillies and SBs, which are you? (My mu would never cuss or drink or smoke. But this story makes me laugh even today; And proud to be a hillbilly.)
Proud to be a Scott's Irish Hillbilly
I'm from East TN, that is such a cute story. I never got called a hillbilly in school cause we were all hillbillies, but we went to DC and NYC for our 8th grade trip, and the northern kids at Ellis Island at at some mall in DC made fun of our accents. This was1996. I will never forget some girls at that mall in DC making fun off me cause I was hollering to my friends to look at something and said "hey yall." Joke's on them, because now everyone is using it as a gender-neutral way to address a group, as opposed to "you guys".
This Trumpster was from an area close to JD Vance, I may talk hillbilly still, but I and my husband of 47 years, worked hard, own our home and have no debt. We was raised to believe in God, family and country. My ancestors fought from the civil war and have a grandson serving now. I'm glad God has no respect of persons.
You had a GREAT MOM. Teaching pride and Independence. That is what my mom did too.
Love that story
I am half Native American and German and l don't grew up around people from all walks of life. It's the character of the person that matters to me. It doesn't matter how little or how much money you have, if you're a horrible person it shows in your actions, inactions, words, or lack there of. All you have to do is pay attention to the person and their true intentions always give themselves away.
And pay particular attention to how they smell.
@@florencedebear1576
That is so low! ....All people don't have the same resources available to them! ( sometimes medical issues too) When a person can do better - & does- it shows a lot about their character! It's a way to do anything- pull them to the side &
tell them & offer options!
@@florencedebear1576 Some diseases, cancer and diabetes are two that come to mind, have distinctive smells. So, paying attention is a good idea, letting your nose dictate your opinion is not a good idea.
A AGREE, 100%. BUT WHY YOU HAVE TO TELL US YOUR ECTINICITY???
@@anitadees4223 Smell is not associated with disease alone two very close family members inherited this from their parents. If they did not shower and change their clothes even for a day their body odour would envelope the room. Medical cures were unavailable then. But this passes as hormones change.
I am not an American but from a distance it would appear that Trump is against illegal immigrants and not immigrants who came through the front door as it were.
He has vilified them and that is not ok. I don't see anywhere that Trump or anyone in his camp came up with any solutions. They refuse to sit down at the table and have rational discussions and come up with constructive solutions.
Trump is against immigrants of color. He refers to their countries as shithole countries. He said he wanted immigrants from Europe.
@@stephanietribuna8591 Many villains have taken advantage of the open border. That's why violent crimes have skyrocketed. We don't have the infrastructure to support the influx of decent productive individuals, nevermind dealing with the huge percentage that wants to harm our country and citizens. Trump is guilty of many terrible things but common sense immigration policy is not one of them. The "solution" you're talking about have been the active policy until 4yrs ago.
@@stephanietribuna8591he did come up with a solution: a wall. Don't let them come in unless they're coming in the correct way. These are solutions, but people (like you) don't like the solutions because you've been convinced Trump is "vilifying" these people who have broken the law and entered the country illegally.
@@stephanietribuna8591 What are you talking about? The numbers speak for themselves. When Trump was in office, his policies resulted in far fewer border crossings, and more deportations. Under Biden we see the opposite trend. So actually, yes, Trump and his team do have solutions, and they've already proven those solutions are effective. What's more, the people who cross our border illegally are villains. They are criminals. They do no respect America or it's laws. That is basically the definition of a villain, so why shouldn't they be vilified? If you are a legitimate asylum seeker, you do not sneak across the border in the dead of night so that no one knows you exist. You go to a designated border crossing and present yourself to the authorities to be processed.
Billionaire Thiel has gotten Vance every job hes had
…so
So Vance is Thiel's lapdog.
I worked in Johns Hopkins in 1989. We had many vip patients from all over the world. It is located in inner city Baltimore. Many of the ancillary staff are working poor, people of color. We had a patient who was a vip, an older white woman, ex congress or similar. She was so demanding and rude, noone wanted to even go in her room. This one patient care tech was a black woman, raising kids, went to church, her grace iluminated the room. She made it a point to be so kind to this nasty entitled woman. The woman mentioned to the tech that she liked her perfume(cheap dime store stuff). The tech wrapped it up and gave it to the woman as a gift. It brought her to tears..she had no friends i suppose, just status. The class displayed by this "inner city, poor black woman" ascended any discussion or debate on class..this author could never display this kind of class, i guarantee it
This just reinforces my belief that if everyone in this country had access to resources to meet all their needs every day, you would see few differences between them.
We have a fetish for "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps", in this country, which of course, is a huge impossibility and a convenient lie by those who wish to appear "better than" others!
My father could not read nor write but he taught me to get an education and work hard. I have been blessed with a wonderful life thanks to people who have helped me and my boot straps. If you want it bad enough you can make something of yourself.
Sincereky Allen Haneline
@joanmaciel. I really love Ur story & I thank U so much for telling us. I envisioned that lovely Tech lady w/all her class, her peaceful personality, her illumination & love for God ❤ WOW, she is the very person I would love to be friends with & be her next door neighbor 🕊 I hope U can meet with her again one day & tell her how joyful & appreciative U are of her. Her personality & joy is so infectious & needed all over the world every day. I one time met a fabulous black woman exactly like this woman & she lit the town up during daylight. She was such an incredible woman of God, but one day, the good Lord took her away from this world & I will see her again one day. God bless U dearly Joan🙏🤲🕊✝️😇❤
@@alicegriffin4023wgʻ2
In 1970 I was an RN in one of the Hospital
I came from the Philippines and the patient came from Cuba
Wife of military General in Cuba
When she knew that I will her Nurse, she h9et Doctor that
She wanted a white Nurse
Her Doctor came and talked to her that there is no white Nurse available
To take care of her
She can be discharged because she was stable enough to be discharged
Or she can stay but no white Nurse available to take of her for that night
She went home early in the morning taken to the parking lot by a white orderly.
First i thought this was an SNL skit! But these are real women taking themselves seriously. Holy crap! 🤣
I fkn know...people must get TRAINED to listen to this!
Exactly 😂😂😂
What a shame from this disturbed women!!!! Are they real or just zombies???? OMG!!!!SO SAD!!!
Isenberg, small hat tribe.
@@K94trumpphonies and nasty republicans bring that out in most people.
Pointing a finger and three pointing back at you does not free you of labeling people and being a hypocrite Nancy Isenberg!
IsenBERG talking about white trash. what a shocker 😂
Hmm Isenberg.
woow you are the one poor who 'pointing at' her writing just a sentence unlike her intellectualizing in a book.
The bane of the World : Canaanites - rhymes with “blue” , 3 letters and ends with a W
Take a guess……
@@hazor777The United States of Israel.
Everyone needs to read her book. It will help many people understand why so many people vote for policy that essentially harms them.
And people don’t want to know about the history of places like Australia.
What a gang of snobs who think themselves liberal.
Vance called himself hillbilly
Gang of snobs is absolutely correct.
Indeed.
@@peaceout5923 It goes way, way, deeper than Vance. Vance doesn't even register when it comes to liberal snobbery.
Yea trumps not a snob
He doesn't talk about self-made man at all in that book. He constantly references the help that he receives. She needs to reread the book.
She read the book through her own lense...
She is lying...
@@rmichaeloliver109 - It's Vance, continuing to grovel for the Money from his Financier and his other Owners ("Mentors").
She's an agitator
Her ability to actually read and understand the JD Vance book is probably quite limited........... She probably only watched the movies which was not very good. Ms. Isenberg's statements are simply Marxism in a 'word salad' spoken by socialists......Plain and simple. USELESS information
I came from a very poor family. There was a mother who wouldn't allow me to play with her daughter because my father was in jail. One of my brothers had a full scholarship to USC and became a dentist. Another brother went to night school and became a successful lawyer. My children and all of my nephews and nieces and cousins are successful. Like every family, some of my brothers had problems. Being poor, as someone else said, does not make you trash. It is what you do with your life. In America, being poor doesn't make you destined to always be poor. It is your values, hard workd, and what you do with your life that matters. I didn't have a college education, but my children are successful in life.
What a great Scottish name. You sound like someone any one would be honored to call friend. God bless you & yours.
america crushes its working classes, sells them drugs which they are then imprisoned (free labour!) for possessing said drugs.
the US class system is a brutal slavery project, and people end up on the bottom (or top) of it through no fault of their own.
❤🕊🙏🤲✝️😇😊 Thank U for this day, Lord. Let us be happy & rejoice in it 🕊❤
I must be naive. I never considered poor people "trash." I came up in a poor family. My parents did the best they could. We all made something of ourselves. "White trash" to me is someone who has much in life and trashes everyone else.
Blah blah blah who cares
Extremely interesting. We live in a time of control and the professor has explained the how and the why. But it seems the majority of the populace do not want to hear, as they are much more comfortable with the certainties they have been told.
the how and the why from elite eyes are certainties these two have been told as well. The shoe fits both sides.
Yeah, the top comment shows how few people actually watched the video. Frightening, really.
Coal miner's daughter and Appalachian hillbilly here who worked her way to a master's degree from Bryn Mawr. This Trumpster read Hillbilly Elegy, and yes, Trumpsters are literate and do read. She may be speaking truth about America's past but not America's present. Coal miner/hillbilly kids with whom I went to school include a doctor, many teachers and nurses, an amazing tech engineer (and musician), a journal editor, and my late cousin who was Chairman of a university physics department. Thank you, Lord God, who strengthened and sustained me. Thank you, America, indeed the land of opportunity.
Government loans for education? Thanks to the democratic party.
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You cited many successes of your own (master's degree) and those of friends and people you know - doctors, who got educated at universities, etc.- but the current crop of MAGA considered this to be "elite"! How can you be in the same league with people who mocked your success in getting ahead in life? What issues keep you hanging with MAGA?
I am an elder millennial, and I had a working-class, West Virginia upbringing. Exceptions aren't the rule, and friend groups are self-selecting. For every lawyer, there are multiple people working in retail, factories, plants and mining. Everyone doing those jobs isn't under 18 or over 50...the workforce came from somewhere.
Vance was not chosen for Youth, Vance was chosen because of the support of The Heritage Foundation and the Money of Peter Thiel.
Likely it is both reasons. The Foundation was probably looking for someone who lacked a moral center enough for them to exploit. This ambitious young hedge funder filled the bill, and he was also young, and he also had a national profile. But candidly, it was probably Don Jr. who finally weighed the choice of him in the balance.
@@SweetJungThang
Notice the OP's use of the word "and."
The hillbilly was bought and paid for by peter thiel. He is a DEI hire. 🇺🇸💙
@@SweetJungThang duh
Both
Republicans want to have a young vice president so the hate, white supremacy will go on for many years ..likr ebefore,, young blood
The irony of the host using the term "Latinx" immediately after the guest called out the fact that changing labels doesn't change the sentiment was not lost on me 😂
And turning it from a talk on class to a talk about race by the same person.
She doesn't seem to be listening or at least lacks self awareness.
The hosts are lame but the woman being interviewed is very good and pushes back
And of course, Hispanic people hate the label "Latinx", it is an invention of the types of Karens who imagine they're defending democracy while hating the actual voters because they ain't rich enough to suit them.
@@tidakada7357lmao "she is good"? 😂 she is jewish
As a black man, I am completely offended that liberals and foreigners have the gall to speak negatively about my fellow Americans. GFY
So you hate Trump and MOST Republicans too?
I call BS. Just finished the book last week (not even knowing who he was or that he was a potential VP pick) and appreciated how honest he was about NOT being a self made man. He acknowledged the powerful influence his grandparents had on him, how his grandfather would give him challenging math problems, how his grandmother wouldn’t let him hang out with certain friends, how he finally got some consistency in his life when he moved in with his grandmother, how the Marines changed him and gave him some serious discipline, how his girlfriend helped him not be so reactive, etc. He credits all these influences and more and humbly recognizes that without them he could easily have turned to drugs, crime, hopelessness. He’s even honest enough to say there was a time when he thought he was better than where he’d come from but gained perspective on that as well.
I’m not a fan of people assigning false motivations to others. 😢
She’s just a think she knows it all!
Yep, he sure turned into trash now. Talk about white vice president trash.
riight on, thank you. this interview made us all stupider.- and intentionally. Amy's controlled-oppostion reactionary era has gone on far too long
Yes 💯
I appreciate your comment.
Thank you, nice post.
And the reality is, most of us are poor… Even having high salaries… We are still poor with the illusion of being middle class… Humans are not trash… Ever
America & esp our kids hv baan stolden from invisible jets & their freaky breeding programs. Saw cannisters of deadly invisible contaminate bad clonvh es put on 'we the ppl '. Clones. They still hv their fingers in mine poking the wrong key on my cell ph. Cannibals eating ppl alive. Millions. Volunteers that tried to stop them & rescue my snatched up daughters were also killed.
Sorry to disagree but some people are garbage.
@@rlm9825 Yeah, but that should be decided on the individual case... 😉
Unfortunately, some are trash and have the Hillbilly attitude, and the proof are those two men, both are not poor, but more poor people have more class than those two
So if America isn't the land of opportunity why do people literally die to come here? And if America doesn't provide the best opportunities in the world? What country does?
If you heard about the Japanese gymnast that was kicked off the team and sent back to Japan for smoking a cigarette before the age of 21, that's a reason why people want to come here. Or, if you're gay in a country that penalizes that with execution, you might want to come here. Or, if you have to marry someone set up by your parents, you might want to come here. If your government views you as a threat and wants to kill you and your family, you might want to come here.
The freedoms we have are why most people want to come here. But, as far as opportunities, it's who you know and how rich your parents are that determine those opportunities.
We are the wealthiest country in the world with a Capitalist economy. No one is ever saying that you can't make money in America. Americans also get fellated by this idea as well, being the foremost superpower, so it is projected to the world. But the idea that if you put enough elbow grease into something or buy the right stocks or go to college here that you'll eventually end up benefitting from the land of milk and honey as well as anyone is a blatant falsehood. You also have very little knowledge of other Countries clearly, their are other wealthy Democracies and people their romanticize moving here due to things like Hollywood just the same way people here romanticize going to Paris. It's just that no one might tell you that culturally that French people can be pretty brusque and dislike Americans in particular so you may have a skewed view of France. It's the same thing here. It's like you have never been around people in projects or poor areas and seen how they do have no upward momentum regardless of what they try or how hard they try, or seen them held down specifically because the system can be very uncaring for someone who has had one serious instance of bad luck, let alone multiple.
The point is, it is neither here nor there. It is neither a lie, what you stated, but it is also not the whole truth. The biggest truth is that America is really great if you come from a more destitute place. Only Xenophobia would have you believe that there aren't a couple billion non destitute people that definitely don't live in the U.S. And for those destitute people only America's self obsession convinces them that there is opportunity here as you seem to believe.
Also Many countries in Europe give far better opportunity, like it's so obvious if you look into it for even HALF a second I'm not going to dignify your question that is biased by the usual tripe and 0 research as though you know anything. But sure, look up Sweden and Switzerland. Look up the UK, look up basically any Country around that region. Look at healthcare and schooling and college and food availability and social services for pretty much any of them and come back here and pretend with something stupid like "They pay more taxes" as an end all be all convo. I dare ya to try that typical pitiful deflection.
The opportunity here is for really poor people who could improve their standard of living by coming here and the already rich. Everyone else only gets lucky the vast majority of the time. But sure, greatest country in the world because we screwed over a lot of people and then made sure we made enough money through war and arms sales that we could pretend like we're a land of opportunity and not hoarding war mongers. Sure person. Sure. You know nothing.
You have to embrace the America sucks mentality so you can advance in authoritarian government. These two old Marxist bats don’t care about anyone they use to advance their own positions in intelligentsia, think tanks, govt. They manipulate the poor as a stepping stool. They despise people who rise above their circumstances.
People has Elected Officials who are looking out for their own welfare instead of the people who Elected them.
They are there and they don't want to leave when they get voted out!
Why?
Because they don't want a regular job anymore after they have been getting a check from the Taxpayer's!
That's why when ANY Elected Officials form their lips to talk about the people on Welfare who actually need it and them getting paid a lot more than the average welfare recipients, makes me mad!
A lot of people doesn't know why these Elected Officials want to do away with welfare!
They want it all for themselves!
Sad, but true!
Damn shame too!
GREED!
I'm not trying to preach to ya.
I'm telling you what God loves and that's the truth.
Not such a nice country when there's rampant racism directed toward those = coming here for a new life. trumpism = racism. FACT.
These people are truly miserable.
Which people? The historian, or the people interviewing her? They are pretty boring, but don't seem miserable.
Yes so misrable... doing what they love, discussing fascinating topics, and standing in their truth. What a sad life 🤣
Utterly miserable. All 3 of them. Sheesh.
I don't understand, why does she say the American Dream is a myth? That a man can't be self made.
Because she’s a rich white liberal elitist who tells others how to think… my Eastern Kentucky roots go back 175 years… Knott County
Because it is. Either you’re born rich or you’re screwed in America. It’s made for the richest people to keep and hold wealth.
Because Marxist intellectuals don't want Americans to believe in themselves or their culture.
They trash those who get educated and succeed, then tell us that our success was possible only because of our
exploitation of Blacks, or Latinos, or whatever. Even Blacks aren't buying it anymore!!!
@@cobanus2862 demonstrably not true. I have relatives who had no connections and grew up lower middle class but ended wealthy. I always want to ask "Did you study in high school? Did you make any attempt to get some further training in a field that would help you earn a living? Did you spend all your time on social life and entertainment, sports, gaming, drugs, etc.? Did you have children before marriage and establishing yourself financially? People often make choices that result in closed doors. The real obstacles are health issues, and family who are dependent on you, and even people dealing with those are sometimes able to build financial freedom. Unless you are in terrible health, do some analysis and find a new avenue to start. You sound so hopeless! Best wishes for you to have a brighter future.
You must be a poor guy who made it in order to make such a comment
You missed the real point of the book. It wasn't about a self-made man. It was about a grandmother who rescued him. It was about faith though waning eventually shine through. It was about family. A main feature of the book was industry that walked away from towns and stripped them of jobs. About the destruction brought on through drugs and the hopelessness. This wasn't a self-made man. This was a man who was helped by his grandmother, by his teachers and military training. Who took the tools that were offered and made use of them effectively.
We the people are sovereign and we are guaranteed a Republic government That's the Constitution for the United and we are guaranteed a Republic government That's the Constitution for the and we are guaranteed a Republic government. I believe the declaration of Independence states that and says nothing about democracy the mob rules sorry you people should get a Democratic card and all Republicans should get a Republican card so that will you democrats can pay all the high prices and follow the rules of your masters I'm so sick of you people I really am You get a microphone on a camera on you and it all of a sudden your opinions are the law while my father God gave me an alienable rights I'm not going to wave my rights for you people that want democracy rather than keeping your constitutional rights in your freedom because the United States citizen was created by Congress under the 14th Amendment That's a slave a legal fiction corporate slave now I can back up everything I say and if I can back it up it means you can't rebut it Your opinions don't matter to me The law books matter to me statutes penal codes and ordinances legislative assemblies limited to the District of Columbia and here they are walking all over the United States of America according to meats and bounds not parcels and descriptions so they can call it residency and charge taxes on people living in their homes in a private capacity not under commercial capacity they're not making profit and gains there is no taxes that should be paid on living in your home it's total corrupt extortion and Rico acts and you Democrats are big part of that it's pathetic
i doubt his teachers were good people
it should have been about police corruption that allows these drugs to come into communities to ruin lives.
Poor white people do not get that the system is set against them as well, it is set against poor people period, colour and or background is irrelevant, poor whites need the equalization. Of society just as much as everyone, YOU ARE LIED TO, all of Biden's policies are evening ground, elect the orange dictator at your own peril
@@dampergoldenrod4156 Why? What makes you think his teachers weren't good people?
It's astounding how confident these women are in their ignorance.
it's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble...it's what you know for sure...that ain't.
The arrogantly ignorant.
Much like the Right
Please explain, _without the misogyny._
@@LoveyKthey can’t 😂
"Chatting class consensus" is such a scathing and accurate description. Love it.
I do not understand how this video could get so many downvotes. She just laid out her historical research on class in the US. How did that rub so many people the wrong way?
People who haven't read and likely won't read the book are reacting to the title. They'd probably feel differently if they actually took the time to read the book, which is heavily researched and referenced.
"These snobs wouldn’t know any class if was staring them in the face." Hot wind. Troublemakers.
No Michael, no
why are they snobs? They are simply talking about class.
@@michaelquinn5824 yep Lenin and Stalin called them the useful idiots before they were put up against the wall.
@@roguegender1 They are snobs because they neglect to define what they mean by “class.” Defining terms is the basic premise of research.
The women that uses the made up word Latinx, is 💯% snob!
When you call someone trash you are trash yourself
You own the power to not allow them to do that……. Don’t give that permission😢
She is jewish, so yeah
Not really...
So you just called everyone that calls other people trash trash, which makes you someone who calls others trash... See where I'm going here?
If you call someone else trash, remember, you are trash to someone else. You may not think so, but you are.🤣
My grandfather was a poor homesteader that moved from Iowa to Montana in the very early 1900s. He and grandmother were very poor and when they got ahead a little their little local bank failed and the owner-manager left on the train. They lived 30 miles from town (3,000 people). But two of my uncles and one aunt had earned doctorates and all of my grandfather's children were well educated and successful in different ways. Several went to Alaska each year and cut fish 17 hours a day and lived in tents to finance their education at prominent universities. Even us grandchildren were all considered "hillbillies" but we all worked hard and saw the value of education. And we have a considerable achievements to our names. A similar story could be said of the family across the fence from my grandfather's homestead. This idea that there was and is no upward mobility in our country is B.S., often propagated by people who hate American and love class warfare. I am proud to be a hillibilly. Through nine years of college and university, my father paid for two years and I paid for the other seven with some government loans and grants. America is still the land of opportunity.
The land of opportunity because of Black people and Enslavement. Even tho opportunities were held from them Jim Crow lasted 100 yrs.
Has an african like you ever invented anything in the history of humanity?@@twiladavis1516
@twiladavis1516 What? Because of black people and enslavement? You talking about how Africans enslaved other Black Africans which they've been doing for thousands of years and still today....And sold them to joiz who took them to America....America ended slavery worldwide....It's been finished since 1865.....Africans are still enslaved in Africa...America never started slavery but they ended it you bitter liar
@@twiladavis1516 Jim Crow never lasted 100 years and was only viable in one region of the nation
But that only works when the education you completed at great cost and sacrifice is serviceable in the society you are going to be a part of. If the narrative gets changed,if the emphasis shifts,if some skills get downplayed and others raised up,you could find yourself a medieval Latin speaker in a Mandarin China run world. Obsolete in other words. Unless you are quirky enough to become a funny media celebrity and your "strangeness" is part of your charm
I remember talking about white trash related to something and my mother stopped me immediately and said there was no person that was trash. We are black and every time in speaking I remember what my late mom said. Ms. Isenberg is so right.
Prof Isenberg uses the term 'expendables'. What about "deplorables"? That was catastrophic for Hillary, but it seems these champions of the downtrodden cannot conceal their contempt.
I am a 1% er deplorable who actually started by washing dishes in a greasy spoon. If JFK were alive today Shrillary would place him on her list of "things to do". “Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country,” Welfare? Wars? Imperialism? Neo-Cons?
Study nar cyst ism and you will understand what is going on. So typical
MAGA have proven themselves to be quite deplorable.
Economics curriculums use the term " undesirables " to define this premise. Argued with my economics professor about the discriminatory cheating built into economics, in the 80s, ultimately changed my major from business to social science.
@@gdiwolverinemale4th where do I find anything about 'nar cyst ism"?
Isenberg should be the one to talk about reinventing ethnic identity
Wow two jews calling JD Vance white trash
This is how Jews see white christians
as trash
JD Vance is anti war
that is why these people hate him
EVIL EVIL WOMEN
Land grabber from Eastern Europe.
@@jimbyrne2328 not from eastern europe
these people also invaded eastern europe to kill slavs
as zelensky and nuland are doing
NEVER link these demons to eastern europe
Uh. Is that a kosher thing to say? You better make sure you have permission to think such a thing. I'll check with the ADL. (lol)
Where was this discussion when Clinton became president?
😆 Oddly enough Jeff Foxworthy was REALLY popular when Bill Clinton became President.
Democrat double standard.
Do they know Bill was a regular at Eipstein island?????
@@Jossianne19130Of course, they don't care.
Right well said
Politicians have a lot of class. It's a shame it is all low
Most politicians should have two terms, one in elected office and one in prison for what they did in their first term.
@@jeffb5785 hahaha 🤣 lmao
Part of the problem is that urban poor has been made more visible than rural poor
Underrated comment.
Very true! There’s a hint of sympathy for the rural poor compared to the urban poor. The terminology used to describe government assistance is different. Rural poor get subsidies while the urban poor get welfare.
Rural poor go to cities for work, but don't get hired. Then they're urban poor.
Yes the problem is poor has been criminalized and blacks have been made the face of it. Then you have whites who tell blacks it's because their lazy and not because of systemic oppression. If they highlight poor whites they will be forced to reconcile whether or not the charges against blacks are true. In other words if blacks are lazy then what are whites? Urban and Rural are nice ways of saying black and white.
well the emphasis was changed to poor urban poc in order to successfully persuade the majority to vote against policies that support poor and working class everywhere
The second I heard this lady, I knew where this was going. There are many, many self made people. Of course traditions followed. It wasn't traditions that we revolted against, it was the ruling classes thinking they ruled over what people should think, not representing the people. You know...the class you think you're in.
Wow two jews calling JD Vance white trash
This is how Jews see white christians
as trash
JD Vance is anti war
that is why these people hate him
EVIL EVIL WOMEN
The Marxists are still mad at us for getting rid of Kings three hundred years before they came up with their theory of class is everything. A shopworn relic of the industrial revolution in Europe.
I listened to this self-proclaimed educated elitist, and I immediately asked myself, if she considered ABRAHAM LINCOLN "White Trash". If you applied her principals she most certainly did and, if she abrogates my conclusion with some self-serving exception then, you have the ultimate confirmation that Nancy is not a racist but is a BIGOT.
I never liked people like her. If I were a student at LSU, an institution that was initially established by William Tecumseh Sherman, I would avoid this prima donna like the plague. Have I run into these people before? Yes, they are definitely at a few of the Main Line Philadelphia colleges like Bryn Mawr and, I had more than the occasional encounter with these people while attending the University of Pennsylvania. So, I know first-hand what people like Nancy Isenberg and this Amy Goodman are like and, what this "False Flag" Democracy Now channel is about which is neither concerned about the people or democracy. I will not be reading Isenberg's book as I find the premise similar to Nietzsche, which I thought was a waste of time years ago.
Suffice to say if these people from "Democracy Now" and Nancy Isenberg do not recommend J.D. Vance's Book then, I propose that everyone from every race, creed and socioeconomic background READ IT.
For if it is a testament on commitment towards improving yourself, your family and your intellectual prowess then it is a book that illustrates the similarity that binds us all together, uniquely as Americans, and well worth any time that would have been spent following this You Tube Channel or reading Isenberg's book.
God Bless All, God Bless JD Vance and President Trump and, God Bless the United States of America. May the Almighty Shine Down and Protect Her and All Those Who Believe in What Our Country Offers Humanity.
I think this lady is full of you know what. Ability and drive is what determines success in America.
And the total absence of ethics and a conscience!
And knowing the right people and lookin pretty. Women and Men
Methinks they're desperate for class wars so we'll end up like Soviet Russia. We already use the old Soviet education system. No one seems to know that.
Thanks for exposing this. The internal struggles are indeed class-related. It’s all geared to keep the divisions.
Well....there's 12 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
didn't watch, came here for the comments which are more telling than the video.
Should have left at one minute 😄
@arbaknumbskull For some reason I was thinking that it'd get better, that there was some point as to why it was in my feed. Someone somewhere needed brownie points for this train wreck of a video.
Thank you for saving me 12 minutes. God bless and keep you and yours always 😂😂
@lolagoulby You're welcome, happy to help out. Thank you for the blessings and I wish you the same.
OMG an icepick in my eye is better than listening to these two.
If it salted first.
Wow two jews calling JD Vance white trash
This is how Jews see white christians
as trash
JD Vance is anti war
that is why these people hate him
EVIL EVIL WOMEN
Exactly
That made me laugh ty😂
Nancy 😫😩😩😫😩. 🥸👈. 😃😄😀😃
My husband and I were fortunate enough to be able to pay off our mortgage early. We were both still working, and took the payment amount that we had been using to pay off our mortgage faster and we put it straight into investments. We were able to retire early because of almost 7 years of putting away what would have been our mortgage payment as well as maxing out our 401K/403B plans. Thankfully we were taught by both of our parents the value of living within our means. Thank you for your advice. I know it will help people. we are interested in investments that could set me up for retirement , I mean I've heard of people that netted hundreds of thousands during these crash, I listened to someone on a podcast who earned over $650K in less than a year, what's the strategy behind such returns?
Investing without proper guidance can lead to mistakes and losses. I've learned this from my own experience.If you're new to investing or don't have much time, it's best to get advice from an expert.
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How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.
Deborah Lynn Dilling is the licensed advisor I use.Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment
She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.
I take exception with these Liberal Democrats. I was an abandoned baby adopted by a lower middle class couple. My adopted father was wonderful. My adopted mother tried but she was an alcoholic with very low self worth. My saving grace was a neighbor girl who helped me learn to read when I was 5. The day before I was to start first grade I broke my left arm and didn’t start until the fourth week of First Grade. By then I was probably reading at a fourth grade level so I caught up very quickly. I excelled through High School and got a BSN in College. I joined the Military and retired after 20 plus years in the USAR. I was very lucky because if I had not learned to read early, my life would have been a disaster. My daughter started preschool at 4 years old and was reading when she was 5. Early literacy is the key to quality education and upward mobility! Today in many communities, many children cannot read at grade level. The people running our schools are destroying our educational system by turning out illiterate students and I want to know if it is intentional! Wealthy families send their children to private schools throughout their academic careers! Look it up! Look at what school the children of Democrats in Congress attend!
She more than likely isn’t a Liberal. More likely a Democratic Socialist. She has made it her life’s goal to Semiticwash “white” culture.
Awesome story. Thank you for sharing it.
It is intentional. Read "Unzipped" by the heir apparent for the CEO job at Levis to learn how liberal Democrats demanded one thing for public school kids while delivering the exact opposite for their precious spawn during COVID.
And you don't think the Republicans in Congress do that too? If they have money, their kids are going to private schools. The best that they can afford. Meanwhile, middleclass Dems and Reps have to fight for every tax dollar we can get to support our public schools. So, what's your beef again about Dems aka Libs?
An uneducated populace is easily controlled. Of course it is intentional. The Teacher's Union has been working the long plan, since at least the late 70's in grade schools and secondary schools. Back as far as the 60's in collages.
Telling the truth about borders and the need for order is not incitement, its telling the truth
Exactly..
OMG this is awful. These women aren't talking about class. They are talking about putting everyone into little boxes, describing them, and shutting the drawer. Not trash, garbage!
Thanks now I don’t have to listen to them.
Democracy Now is a Marxist/Communist bunch of useful idiots
Typical liberals.
You miss the point entirely
that is what commies do, identity politics.
Ah, guess I found the “cat ladies who are miserable with their own lives and the choices they’ve made, and they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too”!
In other words Nancy, there were "stations!"
My parents never told me that I belonged to the class of servants, or that I belonged to the 'working class,' but that I could rise to be whomever I wanted to be in life.
I listened to this self-proclaimed educated elitist, and I immediately asked myself, if she considered ABRAHAM LINCOLN "White Trash". If you applied her principals she most certainly did and, if she abrogates my conclusion with some self-serving exception then, you have the ultimate confirmation that Nancy is not a racist but is a BIGOT.
I never liked people like her. If I were a student at LSU, an institution that was initially established by William Tecumseh Sherman, I would avoid this prima donna like the plague. Have I run into these people before? Yes, they are definitely at a few of the Main Line Philadelphia colleges like Bryn Mawr and, I had more than the occasional encounter with these people while attending the University of Pennsylvania. So, I know first-hand what people like Nancy Isenberg and this Amy Goodman are like and, what this "False Flag" Democracy Now channel is about which is neither concerned about the people or democracy. I will not be reading Isenberg's book as I find the premise similar to Nietzsche, which I thought was a waste of time years ago.
Suffice to say if these people from "Democracy Now" and Nancy Isenberg do not recommend J.D. Vance's Book then, I propose that everyone from every race, creed and socioeconomic background READ IT.
For if it is a testament on commitment towards improving yourself, your family and your intellectual prowess then it is a book that illustrates the similarity that binds us all together, uniquely as Americans, and well worth any time that would have been spent following this You Tube Channel or reading Isenberg's book.
God Bless All and God Bless the United States of America.
A self made man is about as likely as a self laid egg. Mark Twain
Bless Mark Twain!!!!
Thats good!
BRILLIANT!!!!
So true
People come to usa from third world country. Who have nothing worked hard and succeeded. Privilege is a hindrance it takes away the drive and hunger no need to work if dad has money.
im 68 years old when i was about 12 i believed i was white trash, poor and i don't know who my earthly father is,
It was a nice lady of color who taught me God don't make trash, we all can't be genius, the world needs people like me,
if everyone was a genius, who would work in restaurants and factories, telling someone they are white trash, what would that make them, unkind? Over the years I have learned most mean people are usually the most damaged, I don't know if anyone ever told her God don't make trash.
If you thought that the woman being interviewed was calling people trash, you didn't understand the interview. And that's quite a God you have if he's condemning people to a life of poverty just because they aren't geniuses. You should think more about the implications of that, of the belief that God has a hand in creating us.
If everyone was a genius, then a lot of genius people will be working in restaurants and factories. It would be like the citadel of Ricks in Rick and Morty.
we thought of the planets as gods and THEY by their gravitational effect caused earthquakes floods invading armies of starving refugees i. e, War Gods are the only true human construct.........
@@trninfan you didn't understand him either, just self righteously blah blah.
Poor kids grow uo to be more independent and have more empathy for others.
What arrogance, at the level I have never seen.
Marxist intellectuals are all like that. Now you know who Amy Goodman is!!!!
look into the “Cloward Piven strategy. “ it’s being used on us..
Complete the sentence, what subject are you referencing?
@@chadx8269 Look into Cloward-piven strategy: it’s being used against us right now.
True
She revealed her TRUE nature when she said "Trumpster".
Did that hurt your feelings? 🎻
Sounds like she revealed yours as well.
I’m with you. They are self congratulating leftists who doubled down on arrogance and ignorance.
@@deepthoughtswithjessica No. It just made her look like the POS she is.
@@ysf-psfx TRUMP! 2024! MAGA!
She is so right. Poverty is not a race issue. We need to help the poor of all races. This woman is speaking the truth and we need more of this kind of straight talk
We need to help poor people, AND white people.
"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids" - - Joseph R. Biden
Most Democrats disagree with you, they don't think poor whites, especially poor white men, deserve any help. Those are the "oppressors," remember?
No it's not the same.. she was given ratio black poverty vs white poverty and still denied the true.
Everything is not about race!!!! Stop already…smh
White Trash: The 400 Year Untold History of Class in America I have been rereading this book periodically for 3 years very structured analysis and break down!!
Yes! it's fantastic. It really rewrote quite a bit of our history for me,
Also, I had no clue the "Founding Fathers" hated the common people so much
😆
These folks are totally delusional. I feel sorry for them. They have wasted so much of their lives with this “study” only to put it into an idealogical lens.
Why are they even discussing this? Oh never mind. Another book. Is she and Comey friends?
I value and appreciate her scholarship on the topic. Something is not rendered untrue simply because it bothers you.
@@SheilaR.08 Agree! Now say that sentence to a room full of people who think there are 27 different biological genders. The "compassionate and virtuous" ones will ensure that you lose your job, maybe your house, too, and destroy you in every way they possibly can, because they are so...compassionate and virtuous. Hypocrisy, my dear, by the truckload.
Thankyou. Now I know I don't need to waste my time watching it. 😊
The liberal left elite on full display
These talking heads are the mouth piece puppets of the elite class
And for all of their education, they are truly ignorant in what they are saying.
@@kayabernethy830 These people are creepy.
My conservative friends range from lower middle class to multi million's. We all treat each other as equals. No class separation.
The same is not true of urban liberals, who look down their noses at the poor and, since Hillary's coining of the term "basket of deplorables" (i.e. "white trash"), conveniently dismisses them all as bigots, racists and misogynists with no valid grievances. I'm so sick of liberals, and I've been one my entire life up to now. I don't know what I am any more.
If you are liberal, your conservative "friends", hate you.
Amen.
Nancy's disdain, or at least condescension for the lower classes (as a former British Trotskyist I agree with the fundamentals of her class-based analysis), shines through. She comes across as little more than a connoisseur of other's misery.
Oh my lord, there has been a Division of "CLASS" since some people felt that they were BETTER than everyone who wasn't like themselves. That goes back for longer then 400 years. 😢
Of course it has but she is talking about the history of class in America not history of class in the world!!
Hell there is class distinction among family members.
The beginning of man
@@ellismarsalis6064That's America that is being described it goes way further than 400yrs when you're talking about the world
You are describing racism, which is a different paradigm than classism. Quit trying to muddy the waters.
We're not going to let her write our history.
Her tribe has been doing so for over 100 years.
She did a really good job of it. The book is well worth reading.
she might have to though since hillbillies can't write
So you prefer Peter Thiel's man? Perhaps you should look up what Palantir does.
They law! This lady has got some sigogglin beliefs.
Shouldn’t this be called “ Karen’s Korner” 😂😂😂
LOL
I have always been considered middle class neither rich or poor. This drives the elite class dividers crazy.
Every time I made more money the middle-class earning amount went up too, I chased it for many years and retired at well above the minimum to be middle class but about 40k shy of the top of middle class.
Day by day we learn that academics and media earn every bit of the disdain and disrespect they receive.
Leftist intellectuals like this woman here are largely Marxists. They hate US society and everything it represents.
This is from someone who didn't read her book and wouldn't understand it if they did. Well done, showing your ignorance.
Please say more. I don't understand what you found disrespectful in this report.
You did not read her book
Jd Vance’s story is 100percent truth I was born and raised 10 miles away from Jackson Kentucky I to was rasied by my grandmother and I am a direct descendant of cornac McCarty the Irish king of blarney castle who sent 5000 troops to fight English in Scotland in the war that was depicted in brave heart. We were later to have to flee Ireland when the English invented larger cannons. We fled to America were we fought in the revolution and were given Appalachian land grants for our service.
I'm Irish Canadian, a McNamara, and we fought the English who were burning our abbey's and churches, plundering our crops and murdering our clergymen.
We ended up in Canada as indentured labor.
Mr. Vance is one of us.
White people stole native land and paid at least some reparations to the native American Indians. White slave owners are what the Bible refers to as 'menstealers' and after slavery ended, 'menstealers' were paid reparations. The American government refuses to pay reparations to Black people which makes it a corrupt sham government. The difference between poor whites and Black people is nobody owes poor whites anything while white America owes Black people a great deal! *REPARATIONS FOR BLACK AMERICANS NOW!*
I live near Hamilton Ohio where Vance grew up.
The home of Armco Steel. At the time pay in that area was phenomenal!
That’s how “poor white trash” could afford to send JD to an ivy-league college.
The idea that he somehow pulled himself up out of poverty is BS!
@@smithwesson7765 Taking credit for what long dead relatives did is bs. We, we, we...
Vance is an opportunistic grifter just like DJT, he just wasn't born to wealthy parents. Nouveau riche douche.
Who cares?
Unfortunately until people realize it's not the color of your skin but the color of your money, things will not change. Poor people of all ethnicity are treated as less.
I think it's both, but I agree that the left has abandoned class politics to exclusively identity politics, and it's why the left loses all the time.
@@Kunsoo1024 Yep, divide and rule. Divide into two, it's easier to see, and once seen more difficult to rule. Divide into many, it's harder to see, and easier to rule.
Maybe they are less. Until they prove themselves ' not' less. Like Musk, or Rockefeller, or JP morgan.
@Kunsoo1024 left hasn't been losing much lately.
There are many people that see even a middle class worker as less than. The more money they have the more they see others as crap.
Menopause broke all these ladies...
Not fair. I'm in that category and I couldn't believe what I was hearing!
@@tammyjantzen9004 No one likes to see it. I'm glad you were unaffected
You really have no idea what menopause is.
😆😆😆
Is funny how all the negative responses have no references, no citations, nothing except denigrating remarks.
It's almost like she speaks truth and the only rebuttal is to call names.
There no reason to call any human “trash” regardless of color. Race or creed or different political party. Never no one is in any higher class than the other’. We are all humans !
Weak people project their weakness onto others.
It's easier than becoming strong.
Whatever a person critiques in others is a weakness they have in themselves.
They are dobbing on themselves without even knowing it.
Same with power. Only weak people seek to control others.
but that's what they did in the olden days.
That’s what her book is saying
If she’s not a bona fide elitist….. what the heck IS she???!!!!!!
cat lady
A bulldagger
A nut bar
She has an interesting surname.
I listened to this self-proclaimed educated elitist, and I immediately asked myself, if she considered ABRAHAM LINCOLN "White Trash". If you applied her principals she most certainly did and, if she abrogates my conclusion with some self-serving exception then, you have the ultimate confirmation that Nancy is not a racist but is a BIGOT.
I never liked people like her. If I were a student at LSU, an institution that was initially established by William Tecumseh Sherman, I would avoid this prima donna like the plague. Have I run into these people before? Yes, they are definitely at a few of the Main Line Philadelphia colleges like Bryn Mawr and, I had more than the occasional encounter with these people while attending the University of Pennsylvania. So, I know first-hand what people like Nancy Isenberg and this Amy Goodman are like and, what this "False Flag" Democracy Now channel is about which is neither concerned about the people or democracy. I will not be reading Isenberg's book as I find the premise similar to Nietzsche, which I thought was a waste of time years ago.
Suffice to say if these people from "Democracy Now" and Nancy Isenberg do not recommend J.D. Vance's Book then, I propose that everyone from every race, creed and socioeconomic background READ IT.
For if it is a testament on commitment towards improving yourself, your family and your intellectual prowess then it is a book that illustrates the similarity that binds us all together, uniquely as Americans, and well worth any time that would have been spent following this You Tube Channel or reading Isenberg's book.
God Bless All and God Bless the United States of America.
THEY DO NOT HAVE A CANDIDATE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT SO THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT OURS. LOL!
Facts. These "Laidies" are despicable.
This woman does not grasp the concept that decent, moral people who are poor
are very rich indeed. She does not understand because she is void of the love of God. To her, to be rich is more desirable than God.
Judge not by an individual's race, color, creed or socio economic status but their character.
It's absolutely class warfare at this point.
What is the point of this interview; what if anything
does it serve. 😮
who or what is the "it"?
@@brucesmith1544 Constant lies, deception, disinformation from government officials, law enforcement, and mainstream media.
Compromised judiciary and political class, subverting justice and manipulation of law to serve only the rich and vilify those that aren't.
Erosion of fundamental rights and freedom of speech, movement and ability to earn if you don't comply.
Imposition of policy in direct contradiction of Constitutional law.
Subversion of almost all institutions to impose mandates not in line with the values or best interests of the citizens.
Policy(s) that makes the rich richer and the middle class poorer.
I could go on and on for days...do you need more?
@@brucesmith1544 "It" is the behavior of the political class and those they really represent.
@@deborahculbertson578 It serves to clarify the myth that anyone can rise to wealthy status. This myth ignores the realities of circumstance, race, values and world view.
This is what happens when someone spends a few too many decades in academia. Complete disconnect from the reality on the ground.
evanpease6732 - Brilliant response. This is spot on!
U got that right. She's ridiculous.
@evanpease6732 Nailed it!!
@@carmenmccauley585 HAVING DEGREES DO NOT MAKE YOU SMART, EDUCATORS HAVE DESTROYED THE WORLD. INTEGRETY, CHARACTER AND LEADERS COME FROM WITH -IN.
What is the reality from which *you* claim she's detached?
I raised my self from poverty, it is not a myth. With determination, blessings from God and hard work, you can rise from poverty and it happens all the time. Many do not as well and many whom had money drop from the "middle class" into poverty. The self made person is real, I did it, so that makes you wrong.
It has always been class.....so race is used to distract the victims of class.
Right! And the temptation of moving up in class causes the poor of all races to turn their backs on the working class - while being working class themselves!
It is about race too
It is imperative that we do not lose sight of the fact that both class and race are relevant. Look at the number of black individuals who are killed by police, some while sitting in their own homes. Look at the patterns (beliefs, policies, practices, and systems) that persist throughout the nation that are an outbirth of America's history of slavery, Jim Crow, perpetuation of the social construction of race, and enforcement of our very own caste system (see the film, Origin, that was released this year). We cannot negate the prevalence of poverty (rural and urban) and its impact on blacks, whites, and other groups...but, we would be remiss if we fail to acknowledge and deal with the ways in which this nation has deliberately used race to subjugate some groups, while elevating others. One must explore historical patterns and the manner in which even newer European immigrant groups were deliberately elevated above and pitted against blacks in the mid-twentieth century...even though blacks had contributed greatly to the expansion of the American economy (largely for free as slaves) and been here much longer. Even during and after the Great Migration, blacks would see that their skin color mattered more than the length of time they had been in the US. Irish, Italian, Lithuanian, and other immigrants (with lighter skin) took precedence and were deemed better. Let's not fail to acknowledge this, because we cannot correct what we fail to identify. We have a class problem and a race problem in America!
People with money do pass it down to family. Basically.
Even when kids falter as youth or disagree, they eventually come back around, inherit and also keep it in the family.
Other groups do not ordinarily do this except for old world Asian, and some middle eastern 1st generation families now.
It isn't just "white" families with money and wealth. It's generational .
Perhaps more lessons in economics and encouragement of family financial srength should be taught to other groups how to help their future descendents,too.
Just an idea.
Absolutely-it’s the same here in the UK