Nice simple explanation. However, it can do wonders if u dare to put in the works...Sounds really great but u gotta have a sharp ear n know what u want ...
Thanks for the detail explanation. I may miss how you decide the gain of the individual drivers. Like in a passive crossover, there are usually resistors to adjust sound of the tweeter and/or mid path. Do you adjust the gains by listening and adjust to your liking?
Looks like a good product but it all the management is done in 24/96 digital domain. Seems it would defeat any decoding you have done up stream at higher rates. Also if placed between PreAmp and Amp with would also impact any advantages of fully analog path for vinyl.
Thank You I was waiting for this video for ever on youtube How do you find the quality some say it’s for PA and not audiophile A engineer added a optical input with a switch for me to choose since I was using old Apple TV as player
It is for PA not audiophile but listen how good with all audiophile system. pretty damn good ..lol I will see how much better ana;og crossover ,makes it .
i just got into active crossover myself after getting a minidsp SHD studio. but i can't let myself use anything after a dac, but most preamps are done in the analog domain. i have only digital source so it is easier for me, source to dsp and preamp(my minidsp) and digital xlr to dac's into power amps. i can not think of any other way to do it right but something feels off with the preamp, there is no other place to put a preamp(volume knob) i think. to get best sound quality it has to be as simple as possible with no unnecessary conversions or delay, and a volume control which do not degrade or compress sound. This is as far as i got so far, there is probably some high end product i do not know about for better solutions and sound.
I also use Minidsp 4 x 10..... my setup is computer w/JRiver output via toslink optical( glass ) to Minidsp output via XLR to amps....nothing else conversion is at the Minidsp
This is only a piece I use when designing speakers to chose crossover points and slopes, then Ive got a 4 way discreet differential filter stage, What you speak of I want to try and I will using a DEQX it will mean I need 3 stereo DAC machines, just so happens I have them ...
@@OCDHIFiGuy Thanks, the DEQX is lovely. I run my PDC 2.6 into a Sony 7100ES. It's pretty good. I contacted DEQX to see if they still sold conversion kits that allow three S/PDIF outputs because the S-Master Pro amplifiers are fully digital and I have three. No reply sadly, it's likely too old.
Hey Mikey. I use this peice for crossover and eq. Just for the low end and subs. The top end is striaght from preamp to power amp. Passive crossovers in the cabinet do there thing for the mid and tweeter. Curious, what EQ do you use for your setup? I thought i saw it before. Its all analog i think? Do you sell them?
I am a musician and use an active pa system. The yamaha dbr12 to be precise. Would this benefit me and my sound in anyway? I loop a full band sound in my daily sets. How would i link all this up?
It looks so complicated to use! 😲 Can I use this so as to find out optimal crossover points (by ear), measure them, and use them as "templates" to, by trial and error, build a passive crossover? How effective is this method? Thanks!
Thanks for the demo, I wonder If novice users can follow. Some diagrams would be very helpful I think. How did you choose the x-over points and why do you use the mid as a filler driver?
Glad it was helpful!, if you use the manual with this video novices should be fine . This is a temporary test piece to chose my crossover points when designing speakers, then i go to an analog crossover, you chose them by using common sense and trial and error the mid thing was a fix. it used to be a 2 way speaker but the tweeter did not go high enough and I dont like to EQ as it can sound contrived, so I added a ribbon tweeter and made it a 3 way and it just so happened that is sounded best only using the mid for about 1000Hz of freq
Thanks for the video. My only problem is when you change the frequency of the "high" under the LOW settings page, it changes automatically under the page of HIGH settings page. eg. You set the "high" frequency to L-R24 & 1.82 Khz under the LOW settings page, when you change the settings under the HIGH settings page L-R24 2.62 Khz, it changes the LOW page settings (from L-R24 & 1.82 back to L-R24 2.62 Khz)
Passive crossover is old technologies Active digital crossover is so far better ig you setup correstly and use with proffessional amp and preamp to keep symétrique link with XLR Passiv technogy is dead
😂😂😂 So you believe that you can use this to get your signal to where it is “right” but then you delude yourself into thinking you need to get rid of the digital piece in your signal chain! That’s like thinking you need to redo your math and not use a digital calculator!😂
This Behringer crossover is one of the cheapest and worst sounding PA crossovers money can buy. Anyone who installs such a botch in a system, the components of which cost a thousand times as much, must be crazy.
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thank you so much! Using this for a powered loud speaker system, but it was really exciting to learn!
Seems like a great tool!!! If I bought one I would absolutely use al the features built into it.
Oh man you hit the nail on the head! I haven’t heard it explained well
there ya go ...
Nice simple explanation. However, it can do wonders if u dare to put in the works...Sounds really great but u gotta have a sharp ear n know what u want ...
Outstanding explanation. KUDOS.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for this video. Got 1 an really need to set up
Glad it was helpful!
@@OCDHIFiGuyhelp can you tell me where you buy it?
Thanks for the detail explanation. I may miss how you decide the gain of the individual drivers. Like in a passive crossover, there are usually resistors to adjust sound of the tweeter and/or mid path. Do you adjust the gains by listening and adjust to your liking?
Yes, its exactly how you do it .
Excellent
Looks like a good product but it all the management is done in 24/96 digital domain. Seems it would defeat any decoding you have done up stream at higher rates. Also if placed between PreAmp and Amp with would also impact any advantages of fully analog path for vinyl.
only way I take DSP serious is before conversion.
Thank You I was waiting for this video for ever on youtube
How do you find the quality some say it’s for PA and not audiophile
A engineer added a optical input with a switch for me to choose since I was using old Apple TV as player
It is for PA not audiophile but listen how good with all audiophile system. pretty damn good ..lol I will see how much better ana;og crossover ,makes it .
No problem if you use in proffesional sound card and quality pro amp its gar better thab high and hi-fi
i just got into active crossover myself after getting a minidsp SHD studio.
but i can't let myself use anything after a dac, but most preamps are done in the analog domain.
i have only digital source so it is easier for me, source to dsp and preamp(my minidsp) and digital xlr to dac's into power amps.
i can not think of any other way to do it right but something feels off with the preamp, there is no other place to put a preamp(volume knob) i think.
to get best sound quality it has to be as simple as possible with no unnecessary conversions or delay, and a volume control which do not degrade or compress sound.
This is as far as i got so far, there is probably some high end product i do not know about for better solutions and sound.
I also use Minidsp 4 x 10..... my setup is computer w/JRiver output via toslink optical( glass ) to Minidsp output via XLR to amps....nothing else conversion is at the Minidsp
@@wilbertiii where do you do volume?
This is only a piece I use when designing speakers to chose crossover points and slopes, then Ive got a 4 way discreet differential filter stage, What you speak of I want to try and I will using a DEQX it will mean I need 3 stereo DAC machines, just so happens I have them ...
@@OCDHIFiGuy Thanks, the DEQX is lovely. I run my PDC 2.6 into a Sony 7100ES. It's pretty good. I contacted DEQX to see if they still sold conversion kits that allow three S/PDIF outputs because the S-Master Pro amplifiers are fully digital and I have three. No reply sadly, it's likely too old.
Behringer Ultradrive DCX 2496
Great functionality
looking at buying one of these to use in my hometheater just as a dsp for a pair of 18 inch passive subs....
Great idea. It's cheap and effective.
@@OCDHIFiGuy yup its like 429 IN CANADA..
@@johnsmith-qz4bv grab it as I'm not sure it's made any longer ..
@@OCDHIFiGuy ok ya its brand new there is a store in quebec that still sellls them ...
Hey Mikey. I use this peice for crossover and eq. Just for the low end and subs. The top end is striaght from preamp to power amp. Passive crossovers in the cabinet do there thing for the mid and tweeter. Curious, what EQ do you use for your setup? I thought i saw it before. Its all analog i think? Do you sell them?
Nice tutorial ,what cables you recommended for this sistem ?
VERASTARR
Can you hook up a pair of near field studio monitors to it?
Another question can I biamp the Maggie's?
Yes, most of them, cant remember which you were not able to , just ask Maggie if you want to know about a particular model
I am a musician and use an active pa system. The yamaha dbr12 to be precise. Would this benefit me and my sound in anyway? I loop a full band sound in my daily sets. How would i link all this up?
I'm the wrong guy to ask about pro gear. Sorry
@@OCDHIFiGuyThis a pro audio piece, and not a consumer device, and you know a sh/t ton.
It looks so complicated to use! 😲 Can I use this so as to find out optimal crossover points (by ear), measure them, and use them as "templates" to, by trial and error, build a passive crossover? How effective is this method? Thanks!
Thanks for the demo, I wonder If novice users can follow. Some diagrams would be very helpful I think.
How did you choose the x-over points and why do you use the mid as a filler driver?
Glad it was helpful!, if you use the manual with this video novices should be fine . This is a temporary test piece to chose my crossover points when designing speakers, then i go to an analog crossover, you chose them by using common sense and trial and error the mid thing was a fix. it used to be a 2 way speaker but the tweeter did not go high enough and I dont like to EQ as it can sound contrived, so I added a ribbon tweeter and made it a 3 way and it just so happened that is sounded best only using the mid for about 1000Hz of freq
Thanks for the video. My only problem is when you change the frequency of the "high" under the LOW settings page, it changes automatically under the page of HIGH settings page. eg. You set the "high" frequency to L-R24 & 1.82 Khz under the LOW settings page, when you change the settings under the HIGH settings page L-R24 2.62 Khz, it changes the LOW page settings (from L-R24 & 1.82 back to L-R24 2.62 Khz)
Thats to prevent phase anomalies... not to let the user be a dum dum and make poor choices...I found out the hard way too... lol
send your behringer off to black lion and let them mod it.
I modded my own with a full replacement PCB. Had to replace it later so perhaps ill look up Black Lion and sess them out ..THX bro
What type of mod is done?
You have nice system why dont trying passive crossovers i know so expensive is passive system but best result bro.
Passive crossover is old technologies
Active digital crossover is so far better ig you setup correstly and use with proffessional amp and preamp to keep symétrique link with XLR
Passiv technogy is dead
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Good stuff! First.
How many sets of wires?
one pair in , three pair out
Also how to save presets like movie setting I want basss heavy and music listing pure controlled bass
I dont stave presets so I dont know how., Its in the manual however..
Thanks
mike
😂😂😂
So you believe that you can use this to get your signal to where it is “right” but then you delude yourself into thinking you need to get rid of the digital piece in your signal chain!
That’s like thinking you need to redo your math and not use a digital calculator!😂
This Behringer crossover is one of the cheapest and worst sounding PA crossovers money can buy. Anyone who installs such a botch in a system, the components of which cost a thousand times as much, must be crazy.