New Superpermutations Discovered!
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2019
- Join in the Superpermutation effort! The superpermutator google group:
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Watch the full song in all its 25-minute glory or download it from Bandcamp:
• The full performance o...
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Details about the new superpermutation are on Greg Egan's website, along with the midi file:
www.gregegan.net/SCIENCE/Super...
Here is the sheet music if that is your kind of thing:
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More with Helen talking about if we could play it on church bells.
• Could a superpermutati...
James Grime's Numberphile video: Superpermutations - Numberphile
• Superpermutations - Nu...
My previous superpermutation video: the maths problem solved by 4chan
• Superpermutations: the...
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My book is indeed out now!
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The Yamaha Disklavier was hired from the fantastic people at Markson Pianos. They were amazing at organising a last-minute hire. I now recommend them for all your piano needs.
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My book launch was organised by Jo Morgan. She has a teaching resources site!
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inb4 UA-cam's ContentID will detect every song as a reupload of this song based on 7-note melodies.
It would impress me but not surprise
only if it contains a permutation of all 7 notes though. In a normal song you usually only have a few of them, and then keys start repeating wich you cant have in a permutation.
@@kfftfuftur Now if you take the de Bruijn sequence instead, you get repeats too! It's much easier to find, too :)
@@kfftfuftur but by containing every permutation of all 7 notes, it also contains every permutation of less than 7 notes, so literally any part of any melody* is represented there. Obviously the ContentID system is unlikely to base its judgement on bits of melody below 7 notes long, but in theory it might say that it has observed enough of these to say it's a reupload.
*) saying this is "all 7 notes" is obviously somewhat dubious, since an octave has 7 notes (C, D, E etc) but 12 semitones (C, C#, D, D# etc), so to really represent "all music" you'd need a superpermutation of n=12
Espen H. Kristensen but we still don’t get seven note strings with less than seven UNIQUE notes. Or we get some of them, but not necessarily all of them
First an anonymous user from 4chan and now just a random guy casually dropping his attempt
Is this proof that the best way to do maths is by crowdsourcing?
Yes and no. yes it gives the maths to as many bright minds as possible and those who can figure it out help immensely. Those who think they can just spend time frustrating themselves. Not to say that it isn't good to have something to focus on and hone ones mind though.
Finally, we now have to figure out how to cite a UA-cam comment in a paper!
Paging Rob Miles...
The Chicago Manual of Style has you covered!
I like how those three men have various levels of hairiness
From 13:00 Matt grew Ear hair on one side.
The probability of them having exactly equal hairiness is zero, after all
together they make a complete hairdo
It's all in the PERM-utations !!!
:-) :-)
3 Mathematicians in formal attire discuss long numbers that contain all orders of other numbers.
Good comment - because that is exactly what is going on here.
3 Mathematicians in formal attire who discuss long numbers that contain all orders of other numbers walk into a bar...
@@jonathanharoun5245 The waiter asks "so, what are you going to order?", they reply "we have not solved that problem yet but we have some good approximations..."
Commenter makes blunt but accurate single sentence description of UA-cam video.
10/10 Would think it's clickbait
I love how Robin's and Matt's heads are like poles for hair. Obviously Matt's head is positive as hair particles flow away from his head onto Robin's.
Are hair particles like electrons? In that case they'd move from the negative to the positive.
Modern math is becoming really wierd and I like it.
When you think about it, maths has always been weird and I absolutely love it
It's a pretty old problem tbh
"there are 7 notes in an octave"
every musician in the audience screams
septave
ya I was thinking the same, its only 7 if you ignore the flats... therefore there are obviously 12.
7 notes in a key signature!! 12 in an octave smh. I was also thinking there are 7 diatonic chords so it could also be interesting if you did chords in place of notes with proper voice leading and stuff.
I suppose a better way of putting it would be "7 pitch classes in a major scale" since the first and last notes are the same pitch class. This could also be done in minor, which I think would be cool. I'd also like to see a composer take this and base a composition on it!
@@krustbag1039 even still, that's only if you're using the 12 tone equal temprament, or 12 tome standard, system. There are multiple examples of tuning systems that use less than or more than 12 notes per octave.
The hair/no-hair contrast between Matt and Robin is a comedy relieve on it's own
11:41 I love the Parker sign that says "Hmuble Pi" :D
that is the title of the book, if you check closely
@@panda4247 Except with a tpyo in it, which is what made this so amusing
Marvel: “Avengers Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history.”
standupmaths:
lol, you got me. I was like "I didn't know Matt played piano". Also I was thinking the whole time "what if the pianist misses a note, there's almost 6000, professional musicians make mistakes all the time". I guess I'm just a sucker :).
The Superpermutation song is quite Minimalistic. Steve Reich and Philip Glass would be proud.
Since this is all 7 notes in all possible orders wouldn't this be a super violation of copyright?
It is like the musical library of babel constricted to only one octave.
It violates every copyright that consists of a different ordering of those seven notes. If a song uses the same note twice, it's not guaranteed that it will be in here.
Relevant (keep watching): ua-cam.com/video/QhtuG4htrb0/v-deo.html
@@aron8999 wait what?! there is a copyright of how many notes you can use in a song!?
@@-_Nuke_- No, there is not. I'm saying the only songs we know this superperm plagiarizes are 7-note long songs where every one of the 7 notes is played once and the 7 notes are the same as the 7 used in the superperm.
@@aron8999 oh I see! yea it took me some time to understand the joke in Sylwester's comment :P
For some reason I've always imagined James Grime as a super tall guy. Either he's not, or Matt is a giant.
I got to meet Matt recently when he was in California. He's pretty tall. I think James must just be tall, not super tall.
I met Matt recently. He's pretty damn tall.
Also have met Matt, he is tall.
I have not met Matt, but he is, in fact, tall.
6'3"
I just love how UA-cam gets people involved with mathematics and leads to actual discoveries! Thank you to all the great influencers here.
So THAT'S what you needed that self-playing piano for
An anonymous anime fan on 4chan and a random commenter on UA-cam have made breakthroughs in superpermutations. What other geniuses have been just hanging around on the internet?
Why the suits? Is this what they call formal mathematics?
I love how you can find both ancaps and commies in these math channels
they are british
I think the question is valid. But more to the point why do suits exist. They make people look like scammers.
Slightly amazed that, after so many decades, midi appears to be news to these folk.
I like that you even got that piano to play your themetune! Starts at 12:57 .
Yes, that was great; any chance of download? :D
@@RealUnimportant yes i want it too!
So do I.
Yup, a MIDI file or the score for the Stand-up Maths theme would suit me.
+1 on this
Piano version of the Stand-up Maths theme! :o
Wheres the download for that?
Need that standupmaths theme piano version for download!
*Andrew Huang wants to know your location*
That is a dream colab.
@@standupmaths i bet it wouldnt be too hard to get him interested....
We need this.
I'm eagerly waiting for the math(s) and music communities to merge together. ViHart and 12tone already bridge the two.
YESSSS
Did you undo the bow tie at the end just to prove it wasn't a clip-on?
Maybe he was going for the Bond look.
Bow ties are supposed to be worn slightly askew to show they aren't clip on.
But we already know he can tie a bow tie: He's a mathematician.
Tied with a Parker square knot?
@MichaelKingsfordGray So if you need a longer one, you just cut it in half?
standupmaths you can actualy post that midi file somewhere and we can take it from there!
It can become dubstep, it can become nightcore, it can become chiptune, you name it :D
It's always annoyed me that they're not just called "Supermutations"
Su-permutations
@@gogetabr1001 why not SP?
The problem is that super mutations and super permutations would describe two distinct things, and "supermutations" would be at best ambiguous (I think most would read it as super-mutations).
@@anononomous Yes, it's understandable why it's not, but the elegance of superpermutations is that they maximally overlap shared symbol sequences, so it's ironic that the word itself has a repeated symbol sequence.
Fallout has 'em
My teacher said a diagram showing mutually exclusive events was a venn diagram today. I told them no! That's an Euler diagram!
ARFSY omg! Same!!!
I mean, Euler basically had cheat codes in this world.
Probably.
.... I don't get it
@@mrwho995 it was said at matt's book release at Royal Institution. Watch the YT video
I call them disjoint sets...
Make Wintergatan play this on the Marble Machine!
Would be cool, but I'm not sure the MMX is going to have enough spaces on the programming wheel for 5706 notes :p
@@shadowatom Maybe if Wintergatan played it in multiple segments?
I think the marble machine is in a museum now. They are currently working on the marble machine X.
@@ky-gp4sz it is in his workshop now. It was on a museum but it was returned and it is not working now sadly. But mmx is looking great!
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Ok, but are you making a video explaining the new algorithm or what!?
5:25
"Hey Vsauce, Michael here"
Came here to check if i just am an idiot who has creative facial memory. Answer: Maybe. But i am not alone
That's not Vsauce, but he looks a lot like Howtobasic
Hey Michael, Vsauce here
that's not him.
The piano version of the Standupmaths theme though, it's really good!
Matt you've been really pumping these videos out. That's amazing. Always doing an excellent job.
I'll patiently wait a Progressive Metal or Djent or Math Rock version of this song!
This is incredible! It's amazing to see that the efforts of people like you, James, Brady etc are inspiring research at one of the very edges of human mathematical knowledge!
I really need a downloadable version of that piano arrangement of your theme song
So much to love in this! The record, the story of the chase for the record, the announcement, the gala, and the sheer, overwhelming geekiness on full display.
The recital at the end is very enjoyable. Drew me right in.
Get her to do the entire piece. Plz.
Ten years later:
*WE HAVE FOUND THE PERMUTATION N=7 FOR LENGTH 1*
Great production quality and video as always
"Ladies, gentleman, and everyone" I appreciate that.
You people are absolutely ridiculous. And I love it.
Any word on a US release for Humble Pi? I've been digging around for a week and not finding anything as of yet.
Thanks! My goal is ridiculousness.
The US edition is due out Spring 2020. I know. Because publishing.
Why wait? I ordered the version from the UK mathsgear site. Shipping isn't cheap to the US, but I didn't want to wait to support Matt's ridiculousness. I tried to get one of the chopped up copies from the pi calculation, but I think I was to late.
@@standupmaths All this build-up and I have to wait a bloody year (Or spend more on shipping than on the book itself)? Argh... yer killin' me Parker!
@@standupmaths well that's pretty sad :(
standupmaths I suppose I shouldn’t even ask about and Australian release then lol
I LOVE your theme in piano! Wonderful!
"Too many notes" - Emperor Joseph II
One of the greatest videos ever on this channel.
n=7 5905 long
12345671234574... ahh who am I kidding I dunno what I am doing.
I've seen a stackexchange question today that mentioned that a new Superpermutations for n = 7 was posted as a comment to a UA-cam video.
Didn't know that it was yours and here we are with a robo piano playing it.
Cool.
Small world, huh?
This is so awesome! I actually stumbled upon the idea of superpermutations on my own a few years ago due to music!
That piano version of your main theme is AMAZING.
It's all so dignified! Marvelous!
When you opensource sciencce. Incredible cant wait for the future when anyone who has passion can pursue an interest an progress it regardless of what qualifications you have
James Grime! How exciting!
3:28 James: "*whatever. pheh*"
I'm liking the piano version of your theme song. Sounds good! 👍
I've never been this excited about the discovery of a new super permutation before! This was truly amazing.
I love that look that you got when Helen started making the piece slightly more musical. It was basically a physical representation of what goes through my head when I see really cool maths stuff but cant understand how the cool maths stuff was found.
I turned on my TV this morning and who came on the screen? It was you!
I admit i have no idea what this video was about but i enjoyed it anyway. Actually i enjoyed all the videos of yours i´ve seen so far...thank you for creating them
After watching the first video, my thoughts immediately went to music and how amazing superpermutations would be as practice pieces, since your fingers can cover a lot of movements efficiently. I've just been doing it with three notes since seeing that video, but I'm so happy to see you do it with seven.
Personal taste though: the mechanical version sounds better than the "live" attempts. So hypnotic. Get some old synths playing that and start warping it and destroying it over the 25 minutes, take some acid and enjoy the wild ride.
Math has never been published weirder since James Grime did his video on superpermutations. I love it. What more ludicrous and unconventional ways to spread and deliver news other than on a forum, a comment on a video platform, and a classical instrument.
The song at the end was amazing actually! It would really make a brilliant piece if it can be done completely. Of course, I have no clue how or if that is possible. :D Great work!
Wonderful! I had to stop work to watch. Thanks :-)
Congrats, Matt! This was a beautiful way to launch Humble Pi and announce a breakthrough in maths. I wish I could have been there.
the bit at the end with Helen and Hugh was sooooooo good!!!!!
I for one can't wait to see this come up in the upcoming tool album
Was this comment made before or after Fear Inoculum came out?
Thank you, thank you, Matt, for taking the tie off on camera. That gave me closure. Ugh.. the necktie.. such a treacherous invention. -Phill, Las Vegas
I've been trying to remember what superpermutations are called for like two weeks now. Thanks for this video, even if it is a little late :P
Superpermutations have the added use of breaking some forms of code entry. Playback the superpermutation and if the system doesn't make sure the code is entered with a start and a stop it will just match when the correct code comes through. Garage door openers have been really bad at this in the past.
The piano cover of your theme is surprisingly awesome
This is beautiful
Only a bit over a year ago, but it feels like a different time in history to see lots of people sitting together closely.
Oh gosh golly, this is amazing!
Great tune with Helen and Hugh at the end :)
Always a huge fan
I love the tom leher refrence in the thumbnail description. Very fitting
Oh and big props to the lady playing the permutation haha. Whenever I try to play sheet music with highly irregular notes I often stumble. And this by definition is the most irregular of the scala you can get.
Bow ties are cool.
James's "Hello!!!" had me in tears
I loved the piano version of your theme music.
OMG! Is the piano version of the outro available?
That sounds amazing!
There is a tradition of church bells ringing that includes playing the different permutations of the bells. So this would be a natural medium for the superpermutation.
Seems that nobody has mentioned Tom Johnson's music, which presents mathematical patterns musically like this, incredible stuff.
Food can wait, standupmaths uploaded.
Amazing!
I really like the use of sequence in the piece😂
This is basically open source research. That's pretty amazing. I wish we could do this for other areas of science or technology.
Grime pops into frame, I hit like. Just how I roll.
I was going to suggest a midi file, then boom!
Well, congratulations³!
Just got my preorder copy of Humble Pi here today in the USA!
I feel like Adam Neely could do something neat with this.
I wanna hear Neil Cicierega's remix of the entire 25 min. piece.
I like it how you first put the notes on the piano and then start playing it using a computer.
So exciting!
i liked 5906 before they were famous.
sounds so much better as acoustic on vinyl.
Absolute madlad solved it
It sounds so repetitive, but by definition it cannot be.
Reminds me of quasicrystals and aperiodic tilings. Hm, maybe the cut-and-project method could be relevant for this?
That music sheet contains snippets of every song every made and that ever can be made....
#Mindblown
I really wonder how all 8 currently best Super Permutations of Size 6 sound like when played in parallel
Ohhh James Grime! Everybody loves that guy.