the backstory behind this is last time he was there he broke their bow, so when he returned he brought them a traditional english longbow as a gift, then the native guy first shot it he laughed and said it shot like a gun, none of that is in this clip but its why this scene has always been so memorable to me
Ray Mears is the best bushcraft show around. Hands down. I have been carving bows for years, so I really loved the line at the end about how they all shared the joy of trying each cultures bows. Great show! Peace.
This is truly one of the single coolest videos out there.. Not having the mats to produce something that sturdy and flexible themselves. It truly is an Legandary item for the cheftains bow slot!
Yeah they're probably going to take it apart and see how to make it exactly like that because it seems like they liked it so they probably going to adapt it to their style
@@xman69100 They won't, and if they do, it won't help them much. The Hadza don't lack the knowledge or skill to make good bows, it's just there isn't any wood that has the right properties growing nearby. All a longbow is esentially is a stick with a string on it. It's the wood (and the string material) that makes it special.
This Ray Mears episode is actually his second visit to the same tribe. He did an episode on this tribe some years before. If you go to my Ray Mears Magic playlist on my channel there is a video called The Most Precious People on Earth in which he shows them the footage of the last time he was with them. In any case you can look through a Ray Mears series/episode guide online to find more like this.
I don't see why people argue about the length of the arrows, different archery has different bows and arrows. It's been perfected for thousands of years, so it's adapted to the suroundings. If these people needed shorter arrows with bodkins and 150lbs bows, they would have made just that.
Somebody please tell me if there are other videos out there like this. Especially with regards to South American Indians. Some of us may downplay the effectiveness of aboriginal bows and arrows; I, for one, have great respect for those people and their tools that could bring down a 'superiorly armed' conquistador, not to mention food animals.
Just for your information, consider this: Papua New Guineans and Amazonian tribes use arrows up to 6 feet long, but they are damn good with them. Manchurian cavalry archers used heavy arrows almost a meter long. They were really good with them too. Also the Hadza's heaviest bows have a pull of about 100 pounds - that's more than enough to launch the slightly long-ish arrows. Similarly, Papuans and Amazonians typically use long, heavy bows, especially the groups using long arrows.
Hehe, having rewatched this video I see the confusion though, the title is probably misleading since only 1 out of about 10 bows in view comes from England.
Before judging any of these so called "backward cultures", remember that all humans used to live like this for more than a 100,000 years. We were all primitive tribals until only 4000 years ago for Mediterranean and Eastern Civilizations, and only 1500 years ago for most western Europeans. In a way, the tribal lifestyle is the natural and proper way for humans to live.
I know, I understand. It's a valid concern, and the answer is within sight. The human genome project for instance. The answer is not "let the ill and disabled die whenever they occur", not unless you're a psychopath. What's the point in genetic fitness if the species still can't thrive, if your children dying is the price you pay? You may need medicine but you live three times as long, not to mention lessen the risk of being wiped out by a plague.
They're long so they have a similar weight and spine to an arrow with a heavy arrowhead on it, so they don't have to try and remember exactly how all their different arrows shoot. Duhhh
He's either left handed or the image is flipped, but shooting right handed with the arrow on the right side of the bow was done historically, and the technique is preserved in some cultures.
RH with Arrow on the Right is typical of the "Eastern" style of Archery, and the more common RH with Arrow on the Left is "Western" style. With traditional bows, especially Horse Bows, I imagine loading an arrow using the former method means you can get much faster rates of fire, especially when securing arrows in your Bow hand as a quiver. English Longbow's were typically used to rain loads of arrows on a line of enemy solidiers, not really individual targets - so power was the primary objective to out-bow the enemy.
So you're saying half your children dying is a good thing because it ensures the ones that survive will be fit? And this is better than all your children surviving but needing some extra maintenance?
The bow may be from England but it is not a traditional English longbow. It lacks certain features, is a slightly different design, and does not appear to be made from Yew as I cannot see any "heart wood."
A bow doesn't have to have to be made of Yew to be considered an English Longbow. That bow does clearly have the features of a classic English Longbow. Narrow limbs, round belly, bending handle and horn tips.
Pretty sure there is another episode where Ray is shown how to make bows by a traditional bowyer in England. I'd say it's a safe bet he got this bow from that guy....
*****"Weak bow wood" implies wood that is brittle or otherwise unsuitable for making bows lest they break. The power of a bow is not dependent on what wood it's made of but how much force it takes to pull it. Thicker and/or wider bows will take more force to pull no matter what wood they are made of.
For practice, yes. What would you do, create an elaborate dummy with red rings painted on it? Just choose a feature of the environment that won't damage the arrows and try to hit it.
paintings from medieval england show the exact same activity being engaged by military british longbowmen. They used to shoot piles of dirt to keep their shooting sharp.
Its likely the soft dirt won't damage the arrows too badly compared to a harder target for example. You don't want to ruin the equipment that will get your dinner tomorrow - especially if you are married.
I'm sure that'd be quite the buzzkill when they learned that the Western technology that crafted that English longbow is hundreds and hundreds of years old, yet still lightyears ahead of anything they're able to produce today.
The English longbow is truely a marvel of technology ,but remember it was developed to its present state out of the necessities of war , The hadza bow was developed to hunt and kill animals for the family table. Not to penetrate armour and kill their neighbours,like the English and French wars ,that highly affected the development of the longbow and arrows to go with it. A normal hunting bow of the ancient European country side would almost be equal in performance with today's hadzas bows. The neatness and splendid finish of movie bows hve decieved alot of people on how period bows actually looked like.
the backstory behind this is last time he was there he broke their bow, so when he returned he brought them a traditional english longbow as a gift, then the native guy first shot it he laughed and said it shot like a gun, none of that is in this clip but its why this scene has always been so memorable to me
Ray Mears is the best bushcraft show around. Hands down.
I have been carving bows for years, so I really loved the line at the end about how they all shared the joy of trying each cultures bows.
Great show!
Peace.
This is truly one of the single coolest videos out there.. Not having the mats to produce something that sturdy and flexible themselves. It truly is an Legandary item for the cheftains bow slot!
the hadza people have a very traditional rocket launcher
The old guy's bow sounds perfect, might've given Ray the shitty bow because he broke one earlier hahaha
They exchanged Bow's as gifts between two men. Did you watch the video with sound?
The Longbow looks pretty serious, maybe > #70?
The way they are struggling to pull the bow I assume it's a pretty heavy pull on it, yeah. They aren't particularly muscular guys though :P
That bow he gave them must be highly treasured. Simple things we take for granted....
+Glenn “gblan” Blanchard that bow is treasured here too that would probably cost you close to 1000 US.
They went from BC to AD in an instant. Hahah.
It'd be treasured in the UK too; those things cost a bloody fortune. Thank Big Pharma for hoarding all the yew .
Yeah they're probably going to take it apart and see how to make it exactly like that because it seems like they liked it so they probably going to adapt it to their style
@@xman69100 They won't, and if they do, it won't help them much. The Hadza don't lack the knowledge or skill to make good bows, it's just there isn't any wood that has the right properties growing nearby. All a longbow is esentially is a stick with a string on it. It's the wood (and the string material) that makes it special.
This is actually sweet as hell. And somehow even useful for the mod I'm still blustering about with for Warband.
I know its been 10 years, but im interested how the mod is going, furthermore if it is about the hadza or medieval england
This Ray Mears episode is actually his second visit to the same tribe. He did an episode on this tribe some years before. If you go to my Ray Mears Magic playlist on my channel there is a video called The Most Precious People on Earth in which he shows them the footage of the last time he was with them. In any case you can look through a Ray Mears series/episode guide online to find more like this.
I don't see why people argue about the length of the arrows, different archery has different bows and arrows. It's been perfected for thousands of years, so it's adapted to the suroundings. If these people needed shorter arrows with bodkins and 150lbs bows, they would have made just that.
next a musket, then rifles... keep upgrading them.. (just kidding)
Then mustard gas
Then nuclear bombs
Then mass murder
2021 any one
Somebody please tell me if there are other videos out there like this. Especially with regards to South American Indians. Some of us may downplay the effectiveness of aboriginal bows and arrows; I, for one, have great respect for those people and their tools that could bring down a 'superiorly armed' conquistador, not to mention food animals.
interesting how they made their arrows, purely from natural materials :-)
Interesting video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks very much for that.
Just for your information, consider this:
Papua New Guineans and Amazonian tribes use arrows up to 6 feet long, but they are damn good with them. Manchurian cavalry archers used heavy arrows almost a meter long. They were really good with them too.
Also the Hadza's heaviest bows have a pull of about 100 pounds - that's more than enough to launch the slightly long-ish arrows. Similarly, Papuans and Amazonians typically use long, heavy bows, especially the groups using long arrows.
more than he could do aye
Hehe, having rewatched this video I see the confusion though, the title is probably misleading since only 1 out of about 10 bows in view comes from England.
theres one with a guy call bruce parry. the programme is called tribe , its brilliant
@ChimpMeUpTheChimp Fire or Shoot are classed as the same type of action with a weapon that propells things
it is he brought it as a gift.
Clearly, if anyone watched the video, they would realize he brought a bow for them to try out.
Wow, those arrows are long!
Damn right.
GENUINE / AUTHENTIC MEDIEVAL ARROW what do you think?
Before judging any of these so called "backward cultures", remember that all humans used to live like this for more than a 100,000 years. We were all primitive tribals until only 4000 years ago for Mediterranean and Eastern Civilizations, and only 1500 years ago for most western Europeans. In a way, the tribal lifestyle is the natural and proper way for humans to live.
I don't see anyone judging them here...
I don't think people here are judging. Besides what the fuck is it to me if some dude wants to live with his mates and hunt like this.
as long as they're balanced it doesn't realy matter how long they are longer arrows are just heavier and travel less far
Those are practice arrows. Their hunting arrows have a ten inch foreshaft behind the head, which is smeared with acocanthera poison.
After about half a year of being into archery, I still think that 'sexy' would be a better name than bow...
Hear, hear!
Nothing like getting a stone axe in your head because....well because.
They may have been too light at normal length.
Can somebody make a video on how to make their bows
watch heart of the rift ray mears. there a hadza makes a bow, but not in much detail though.
+WUSHU MAN thanks
Precisely.
He's right, they are way too long for most people. However i'm sure with enough practice, you could shoot those
Hmm, I like it.
I know, I understand. It's a valid concern, and the answer is within sight. The human genome project for instance. The answer is not "let the ill and disabled die whenever they occur", not unless you're a psychopath.
What's the point in genetic fitness if the species still can't thrive, if your children dying is the price you pay? You may need medicine but you live three times as long, not to mention lessen the risk of being wiped out by a plague.
@FrisianDude HOW DID YOU FIND ME, WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR.
Thanks. Still enthralled by "primitive" technologies.
They're long so they have a similar weight and spine to an arrow with a heavy arrowhead on it, so they don't have to try and remember exactly how all their different arrows shoot. Duhhh
ok then why is drawing a bow then loosing it with out an arrow called dry firing?
Accurate enough to kill and eat and sustain off the land alone.
@ChimpMeUpTheChimp Ray Mears and his television shows are what I have an interest in, not archery. :P
They'll use the bows to get their food, they would have no use for money
please dont give them heavy pound english longbow or some like that , they will easy kill elephant or rhino... :D :D LOL
You may laugh, but Howard Hill killed an elephant with a 70lbs Recurve back in the sixties. With one arrow.
Hadza bows are heavy 80lb.. I don't know why mears bow broke
@@5tonyvvvv I doubt that. You can see from the impact of the arrow that they are propably somewhere in 20 pounds.
@@ReasonAboveEverything hadza bows are not 20 lb they are well over 60 to 80.. they hunt giraffe zebras and other big game!
@@tonymaurice4157 Sure but that bow wasn't 80 pounds. It was light 30 max bow.
Shooting the English Sexy?
I wonder what that says about the guys you are trying to defend.
@ChimpMeUpTheChimp lol ;)
0:52 arrow on right of bow .. this man knows :D
Neil Williams left handed archers like me, and the one you are talking about have the arrow on the right of the bow Neil.....
He's either left handed or the image is flipped, but shooting right handed with the arrow on the right side of the bow was done historically, and the technique is preserved in some cultures.
RH with Arrow on the Right is typical of the "Eastern" style of Archery, and the more common RH with Arrow on the Left is "Western" style. With traditional bows, especially Horse Bows, I imagine loading an arrow using the former method means you can get much faster rates of fire, especially when securing arrows in your Bow hand as a quiver. English Longbow's were typically used to rain loads of arrows on a line of enemy solidiers, not really individual targets - so power was the primary objective to out-bow the enemy.
So you're saying half your children dying is a good thing because it ensures the ones that survive will be fit?
And this is better than all your children surviving but needing some extra maintenance?
Nice longbow, probably about 30 pounds draw-weight...
The bow may be from England but it is not a traditional English longbow. It lacks certain features, is a slightly different design, and does not appear to be made from Yew as I cannot see any "heart wood."
A bow doesn't have to have to be made of Yew to be considered an English Longbow. That bow does clearly have the features of a classic English Longbow. Narrow limbs, round belly, bending handle and horn tips.
Pretty sure there is another episode where Ray is shown how to make bows by a traditional bowyer in England. I'd say it's a safe bet he got this bow from that guy....
***** some hadza can pull a 100 pound bow.
*****"Weak bow wood" implies wood that is brittle or otherwise unsuitable for making bows lest they break. The power of a bow is not dependent on what wood it's made of but how much force it takes to pull it. Thicker and/or wider bows will take more force to pull no matter what wood they are made of.
What the hel? Are they shooting dirt?
For practice, yes. What would you do, create an elaborate dummy with red rings painted on it? Just choose a feature of the environment that won't damage the arrows and try to hit it.
Hahaha
paintings from medieval england show the exact same activity being engaged by military british longbowmen. They used to shoot piles of dirt to keep their shooting sharp.
Its likely the soft dirt won't damage the arrows too badly compared to a harder target for example. You don't want to ruin the equipment that will get your dinner tomorrow - especially if you are married.
Is hadza wood as good as yew?
I'm sure that'd be quite the buzzkill when they learned that the Western technology that crafted that English longbow is hundreds and hundreds of years old, yet still lightyears ahead of anything they're able to produce today.
The English longbow is truely a marvel of technology ,but remember it was developed to its present state out of the necessities of war ,
The hadza bow was developed to hunt and kill animals for the family table.
Not to penetrate armour and kill their neighbours,like the English and French wars ,that highly affected the development of the longbow and arrows to go with it.
A normal hunting bow of the ancient European country side would almost be equal in performance with today's hadzas bows.
The neatness and splendid finish of movie bows hve decieved alot of people on how period bows actually looked like.
I can see Christian missionaries gifting bows and arrows in exchange for conversion.
Propably yes tho it would be very unbiblical.
You're mistaken. Refer to this video /watch?v=TMIHXPa5bBE
@lockeforeer Beats me. No idea how I came here.
their technique seems heaps random
@ChimpMeUpTheChimp Noted, fvckwit.
Why do they all have haircuts
I wonder then how they manage to survive !!! they probably just go to mcdonalds