The 'Everything' Formula - Numberphile

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  • @jeffreycanfield1939
    @jeffreycanfield1939 8 років тому +11008

    "This is where it gets more interesting. 9, 8, 2..."
    "You'll notice this is one of the more boring parts of the number. 7, 6..."
    I love this guy

    • @dino130395
      @dino130395 8 років тому +248

      Matt Parker. I love him too. He even has his own channel: standupmaths

    • @jeffreycanfield1939
      @jeffreycanfield1939 8 років тому +180

      I know, he hardly uploads on his main channel, so it feels like a gift from the heavens when he is featured on Numberphile. Quality over quantity.

    • @jrlepage2a03
      @jrlepage2a03 8 років тому +53

      That used to be true, but not so much anymore. Matt actually uploads videos to his main channel somewhat regularly now.

    • @jeffreycanfield1939
      @jeffreycanfield1939 8 років тому +16

      jr lepage​​ Somewhat regularly, keyword there. I may just be used to most of the channels I watch uploading very frequently. The channels I subscribe to usually upload once every two to three times a day, so I guess I've set a standard when I subscribed to standupmaths.

    • @bennylofgren3208
      @bennylofgren3208 7 років тому +52

      MistaTwoJeffreyTwenty Yaay _"Once every two to three times a day"_ doesn't even make sense...

  • @rogerszmodis
    @rogerszmodis 4 роки тому +1078

    I like how he can notice 4 incorrect digits in the middle of a giant wall of numbers, cross them out , then continue like nothing happened

    • @whatisthis2809
      @whatisthis2809 4 роки тому +42

      matt can do anything

    • @genericusername4206
      @genericusername4206 4 роки тому +45

      What is this except make a magic square with square numbers.

    •  4 роки тому +1

      but you know it was just a Matt's joke?

    • @jalalshahini
      @jalalshahini 3 роки тому +11

      he is a show man

    • @StormTheSquid
      @StormTheSquid 3 роки тому +24

      @@whatisthis2809 Except some things. In which case he only Parker does them.

  • @todroyas692
    @todroyas692 6 років тому +3323

    I can't believe I'm procrastinating from doing my maths homework by learning about harder maths on the internet... Why am I like this?

  • @rakinazad
    @rakinazad 8 років тому +2882

    "some of you might have come across this"
    yea, sure, OKAY.

    • @chuckychuck8318
      @chuckychuck8318 6 років тому +11

      Rakin Azad we did

    • @aurilyx6084
      @aurilyx6084 6 років тому +6

      I would've liked this comment but it's on 666 likes

    • @liabell675
      @liabell675 6 років тому +2

      @@aurilyx6084 it's not now, so you can do it

    • @aurilyx6084
      @aurilyx6084 6 років тому +2

      @@liabell675 ok thanks

    • @raywilliams6717
      @raywilliams6717 5 років тому +2

      @@aurilyx6084 well comeback and add to the heap then

  • @Icecicle83
    @Icecicle83 9 років тому +807

    In the beginning, I almost thought he was going to say "and the reason this number is so great is because I just made it up" :P

    • @eltyo340
      @eltyo340 9 років тому +93

      Icecicle83 Matt is such a great troll with things like that xD

    • @standupmaths
      @standupmaths 9 років тому +204

      That was very tempting.

    • @Icecicle83
      @Icecicle83 9 років тому +6

      I think it would have been great.

    • @QuasarRiceMints
      @QuasarRiceMints 9 років тому +4

      Icecicle83 That's exactly what I thought :D

    • @Chrnan6710
      @Chrnan6710 9 років тому +7

      That's so Matt.

  • @ikaikaikaika2419
    @ikaikaikaika2419 8 років тому +3245

    So who here is going to reanimate an entire Spongebob episode by using different points on the graph and several screenshots

    • @StarLink149
      @StarLink149 8 років тому +310

      You could write a computer program to do it. For each frame of the animation, get the corresponding number and draw a graph.

    • @TheOfficialQU4KE
      @TheOfficialQU4KE 7 років тому +241

      Entire Bee Movie?

    • @koyo4625
      @koyo4625 7 років тому +40

      They will need to then post the coordinates for each frame.

    • @Gopherborn
      @Gopherborn 7 років тому +20

      ME HOY MENOY

    • @cameron719
      @cameron719 7 років тому +6

      yes please

  • @LazoeJSCREI
    @LazoeJSCREI 9 років тому +857

    0:18 "This is where it gets quite interesting actually cause it goes:" *and the huge number continues*

  • @theodorekeezer877
    @theodorekeezer877 8 років тому +1462

    if you do the number he put in his book, it gives you the formula but under it, it says "matt was 'ere"

    • @thomasbelcher6921
      @thomasbelcher6921 5 років тому +197

      No it doesn't. It has a picture of the Parker square with the caption, "never forget"

    • @sevenred2803
      @sevenred2803 5 років тому +191

      No it doesn't! It shows a pixelated image of him performing the goatse pose.

    • @ramizchili8024
      @ramizchili8024 5 років тому +50

      Gosh. Confusions.

    • @ChavvyChannel
      @ChavvyChannel 5 років тому +3

      real gamer missed the joke dumbass

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 5 років тому +99

      I thought I could look at the comments so I wouldn't have to get the book myself and plot the number
      but now I need to get the book so I can confirm what I've seen

  • @isaacmiles-watt2758
    @isaacmiles-watt2758 5 років тому +878

    ‘Tupper’s self-referential formula’ sounds like a D&D spell.

    • @senorpepper3405
      @senorpepper3405 4 роки тому +13

      tashas uncontrollable hideous laughter

    • @alexnobody1
      @alexnobody1 4 роки тому +39

      "When cast, target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or recite this description."

    • @Layotu
      @Layotu 3 роки тому +23

      "when cast, target creature must succeed a wisdom saving throw or be forced to cast tupper's self-referential formula", so it just drains spell slots.

    • @weckar
      @weckar 3 роки тому +3

      Any target that fails their Will save fails their next Will save.

    • @word6344
      @word6344 2 роки тому +5

      I've got a homebrew enemy wizard who's a senile mathematician. This is the perfect spell for him

  • @tinkerthinker4892
    @tinkerthinker4892 8 років тому +705

    "You're a long way up the Y-axis" ...I like that phrase

  • @JOSHHMusic
    @JOSHHMusic 8 років тому +4250

    This formula contains your full name and the exact time you will die at some point in it.

    • @willytb1
      @willytb1 8 років тому +227

      +Josh Hoover im going to be that guy, also dicks, all of them

    • @chiphead777
      @chiphead777 8 років тому +327

      +JOSHH Music but surely then it has my name and every other time that I won't die

    • @frankx8739
      @frankx8739 8 років тому +14

      +JOSHH Music Youre freakin me out

    • @YellowJelly13
      @YellowJelly13 8 років тому +12

      +JOSHH Music Not really. I'm immortal.

    • @toadfrommariokart64
      @toadfrommariokart64 7 років тому +68

      Oh wow, you're right!
      8263583755837812708269306612315086550161261465676621697191232299015555109530473991664298512605728238239971884193257992911988479264761223839731144237937037677601595042085060631575502286950807622498260341666536703268874083292839411102309775496585160713655771918911418658614525147648547269744638123703449667649106901730425073725871356176123630322283576528640839767243650827823155945461737174616919924091702793172230949715172669109477101683980103225542915133381652155692630611345042305744871378239161955200244747113368117810298880

  • @CannedMaths
    @CannedMaths 5 років тому +162

    4:12
    *looks at 1000 digits.
    “It’s not that far tho”

    • @praneethmashetty591
      @praneethmashetty591 4 роки тому +1

      I was your 70th like, so close.

    • @EHMM
      @EHMM 3 роки тому

      Dang he do be a 1000+ digits number fan bro

  • @justin_5631
    @justin_5631 9 років тому +368

    When you break it down, the equation is less complicated than it first appears. The (1/2) term is merely distinguishing between 0 and 1 - whether a pixel should appear at a given location in the image. The term floor( y / 17 ) will always represent the number of the grid-image itself ( before it was multiplied by 17 ). It is a binary encoding of the image. The term 2^( 17*floor(x) + mod( y, 17) ) selects each pixel of the image one at a time.. each x,y coordinate selects a different pixel. The exponent is then made negative so the grid number is divided by the pixel selection number. When there is a pixel in the given location, the selected-pixel number will be a factor of the image number and there will be a remainder of 1 (plus maybe a fraction). If not, there will be a fractional less than 1 and the floor of the value will be 0. There are a few tricky details, but this is the essence of the problem.

    • @Fun_maths
      @Fun_maths 2 роки тому +9

      But why is it specifically 106 across? Doesn't that seem arbitrary?
      It doesn't appear in the equation so why is that how far it goes along the X axis?

    • @weirdredstone42
      @weirdredstone42 2 роки тому +7

      @@Fun_maths i think the points graphed with the formula keep going right, but you can just ignore them for a specific width.

    • @henryginn7490
      @henryginn7490 Рік тому +1

      @@Fun_maths you're right, there is no limit on how far across it goes, you would just need to go higher up

    • @mumujibirb
      @mumujibirb Рік тому +1

      Putting the formula into desmos shows 1/2 is irrelevant I think, any k seems to suffice

    • @suomeaboo
      @suomeaboo Рік тому +1

      Making your own formulas is basically coding, but your programming language is Math.

  • @007MrYang
    @007MrYang 9 років тому +1681

    I know this is real, but it felt like an April fools video.
    Especially, when he pulled out the pacman version XD

    • @123unknownsoldier126
      @123unknownsoldier126 9 років тому +48

      007MrYang I know! I was thinking the same thing. As i was watching that part, i was about to comment asking if it was a joke.

    • @chillsahoy2640
      @chillsahoy2640 9 років тому +68

      Jordan Phillips Especially considering that Matt Parker is well-known for joking a lot, and delivering his jokes in a deadpan way that makes you question whether he's being serious or not. But this is actually real!

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 9 років тому +5

      007MrYang The Pac-Man one _was_ pretty great.

    • @ThatLazyCrazyLady
      @ThatLazyCrazyLady 9 років тому +24

      007MrYang Me too! I actually looked at the date to make sure it wasn't posted on April 1st. When he proved it was real, I was like okaaay... mind. blown.

    • @JNCressey
      @JNCressey 9 років тому +45

      007MrYang If you pick the right k value, you'll find a section where it says "April Fool".

  • @xCreide13x
    @xCreide13x 5 років тому +530

    So you're telling me I can play doom in a 17 x 106 grid

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool 4 роки тому +12

      If you're Cathy Newman, yes.

    • @HashtagTSwagg
      @HashtagTSwagg 4 роки тому +3

      You need more likes.

    • @MisterYoda15
      @MisterYoda15 3 роки тому

      let's stop at 420 likes cuz this is some high sheit

  • @draheim90
    @draheim90 8 років тому +465

    This video started off really boring and I wasn't sure where it was heading, but man did it deliver.

    • @Banzybanz
      @Banzybanz 5 років тому +32

      That 982 part was interesting.

  • @AlanKey86
    @AlanKey86 9 років тому +884

    The images are 17 pixels tall - presumably "17" was a fairly arbitrary choice by Tupper? Tall enough to just fit the formula in I guess?
    Another formula might exist for making pictures 23 pixels tall, or 101 pixels tall.. or 720 pixels tall and 1080 pixels across...
    If so, every frame of this Numberphile video could, in principle, be encoded by a formula.... as well as every frame of every other video ever made. And every video that ever will be made.

    • @mrphlip
      @mrphlip 9 років тому +199

      AlanKey86 Changing the size of the picture is pretty easy... there's three "17"s in the formula, just change all of those to, say, 23, or 720, and you have a formula that does the same thing for a different height. And the width isn't even a part of the formula, if you want to encode a wider picture it works just fine, you just end up with a larger number for k.
      Also, ultimately, everything on a computer _is_ encoded by a formula like this... every computer file could in principle be read as a single very large number, and it's the software on the computer that plays the role of the formula, turning that number into something useful... of course, (most) software is a bit more complicated than this particular formula, but the principle is the same.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 9 років тому +84

      AlanKey86 Essentially that's the idea behind Gödelization, yes. Or digital computers for that matter. Everything in memory is a number, including both data and code. So your OS is a number, the UA-cam server is a number, the videos are numbers, your Flash player is a number ... everything is a number, transformed into pretty pictures by other numbers.

    • @Ddub1083
      @Ddub1083 9 років тому +44

      AlanKey86 congrats on figuring out how animated gifs work. an animated gif is simply a series of bitmap images where bitmap images are simply the k values of this formula (or another one using any dimensions) so when plotted it gives the binary image, but also has a third dimension for color values.

    • @Ddub1083
      @Ddub1083 9 років тому +6

      Rawiri Hohepa hex is just a different base number system, it represents numbers (the same numbers) as binary just in a way that is easier for a human to interpret (to the computer its always binary at the machine level)
      you can represent a color image in binary, you would just need a third dimension to the formula where the values range from binary for black (00000....) to binary for white (111111....) and the range of colors would depend whether you use 8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit colors etc. Of course these can be converted to hex but the hex and the binary both represent the same underlying numbers/colors.

    • @SerBallister
      @SerBallister 9 років тому +4

      Ddub1083 Strictly speaking GIFs use LZW compression typically with 8 bits-per-pixel (palettised)

  • @Squobidal
    @Squobidal 5 років тому +192

    Matt Parker: this is the slowest longest running troll you will ever come across
    Fermat: am I a joke to you?

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 5 років тому +4

      Squobidal 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @michaelsaucier4396
      @michaelsaucier4396 4 роки тому +3

      OMG now THAT is hilarious

    • @higztv1166
      @higztv1166 3 роки тому +3

      Who's Fermat?

    • @Squobidal
      @Squobidal 3 роки тому +8

      @@higztv1166 fermat was a mathematician who died before giving the proof of a stated theorem, which then took 300+ years to solve

    • @pendrag2k
      @pendrag2k 3 роки тому +7

      @@Squobidal And used HUGELY advanced mathematics that weren't even dreamt of in Fermat's time. It's almost a certainty Fermat's 'proof' was one of the thousands of erroneous proofs that had been submitted prior to Andrew Wiles' finally proving his theorem in the 90s.

  • @Gofer925
    @Gofer925 8 років тому +897

    huh, so it's kind of the library of babel
    that's pretty neat

    • @OrchidAlloy
      @OrchidAlloy 8 років тому +86

      That's a fantastic comparison! This is the Library of Babel of formulas.

    • @JeoshuaCollins
      @JeoshuaCollins 8 років тому +14

      It's more like a function which takes the k value as an argument, and turns that into a grid. The actual graph can be said to be "encoded" into the value you use for k. You can look at the value k as the actual image you want to be displayed, and the equation is actually the tool you use to render it.

    • @roondarmurnig338
      @roondarmurnig338 8 років тому +33

      Not necessarily formulas. You saw that he did "Numberphile," so really just the Library of Babel of anything that can fit in a 106*17 grid of pixels. xD

    • @psionic0
      @psionic0 8 років тому +9

      Actually the x size isn't limited to 106, it will go further with higher K's. And you can also increase the height with a slight modification of the formula.

    • @lexscarlet
      @lexscarlet 8 років тому

      BRO TEACH ME

  • @sayrith
    @sayrith 9 років тому +2453

    So you are saying that there is a K value for a screen shot of Half Life 3?

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK 9 років тому +451

      sayrith There's a k value for the phrase you'd need to speak to get them to release Half Life 3

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 9 років тому +69

      Nathan T I like you.

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK 9 років тому +9

      Sicarius Noctis
      Thank you for making me laugh :)

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka 9 років тому +46

      Well, there are also K values for images that look like a screen shot of HL3 but are not actually, and you can't tell what image is accurate until the game is released. You may as well say, "So there's an image that's a screenshot of HL3?", since any image can be encoded as a K number.

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK 9 років тому +9

      K1naku5ana3R1ka
      Any bitmap image within the size constraints, that is

  • @simoncarlile5190
    @simoncarlile5190 7 років тому +203

    106 * 17 = 1802, so there are 1802 pixels in each "grid". There are 2^1802 different possible grids with this logic. Since each grid has height 17, the max height of this function - based on the description within this video - is (17 * (2^1802)).
    So here's my question: what happens at higher y-values? That number is very large, but it's a drop in the pond of the infinite ocean lying above it. So how does the function behave at those far higher y-values? Is it periodic? Does it repeat the grids, exactly in order, for infinity? Does it start giving garbage? Is it blank; does it not display anything above that point?

    • @alexyates7166
      @alexyates7166 7 років тому +21

      Simon Carlile Do we know that it doesn't repeat itself even earlier? You can only call that the maximum height of the function if you know every block of 17 up to that point is unique. You would need to be prove that it won't start repeating until after it has exhausted all the distinct possibilities.

    • @theaweary
      @theaweary 7 років тому +4

      If a multiuniverse exists then those picrures which looks as garbage for us might have ordered structure in other worlds. By the way I rather think it's a trick than an explanation of how our world has been created. Someone could start thinking that it's a mistery but it's not. Tupper translated a picture to formula and that's all he did. LOL.

    • @727iamsam
      @727iamsam 7 років тому +79

      It starts repeating but inverted - starts at the top right instead!! Pretty cool stuff, just tried it

    • @europasib
      @europasib 7 років тому +12

      What happens at x>108? Does it repeat itself infinitely along the x-axis, or do something else?

    • @garvielloken9510
      @garvielloken9510 6 років тому +14

      One thing, there are 2^1803 - 1, because you can have a binary number of 1802 1's which if you add one is 2^1803. Also it equals 5*10^543 or 5 Octogintacentillion or more specifically 57158678861384166688322083618419726931125849158791219735754653591148474629858302
      9329307855601409760300747826776847499381492015935155358310368707377103728210100188785202981759809103290579875568916906279235071821145409548462543176216184507360998816271917014454116073103439318297642987304928618033941227386219089813017272961345788989281119720935756579294733327700663909734926341200602357242020202058745308528342595964074462982623785717895075051973515654339473200635760893294494091009288544445312098701587650328316415546394274036564639618598699007

  • @PureZOOKS
    @PureZOOKS 9 років тому +505

    If that number isn't a giant pixel knob, I will be disappointed.

    • @TeamDemoClan2
      @TeamDemoClan2 9 років тому +49

      ***** 960939379918958884971672962127852754715004339660129306651505519271702802395266424689642842174350718121267153782770623355993237280874144307891325963941337723487857735749823926629715517173716995165232890538221619561473865746304976129424093469921873058694492149444647882055806603996307772920108275439090931487231139508469267169521581872227293630931364751681875244141639118844172571080588839278417813855101724217755801034516516847318278139146496085068307449373183066378525002863703739215155304174822734164455483814441481301873381703922338834284527

    • @ClausTndering
      @ClausTndering 9 років тому +23

      Vort3x When I convert that number to binary I get a 1804-digit number. But 106×17=1802, so there must be something strange going on. (By the way, I checked your number with the book, and it is correct.)

    • @TeamDemoClan2
      @TeamDemoClan2 9 років тому +4

      Claus Tøndering Weird, it comes up with the correct image anyway :)

    • @Binkophile
      @Binkophile 9 років тому +155

      Tru3Gamer I was kinda hoping it was the lyrics to "Never gonna give you up".Then Matt could have got the record for most convoluted rickroll ever :D

    • @oqibidipo
      @oqibidipo 9 років тому +26

      Claus Tøndering You have to divide it by 17 first.

  • @elonmuskmtmt886
    @elonmuskmtmt886 6 років тому +18

    "Things to make and do in the fourth dimension" is the book that sparked my obsession with mathematics. This instilled facination is literally why I am watching this channel to begin with!

  • @kalebbruwer
    @kalebbruwer 8 років тому +275

    at what number does it say parker's square?

    • @anuradhakrishnan6040
      @anuradhakrishnan6040 8 років тому +44

      Daniel, I thought you'd just given a random number, but it does say "Parker square!" at that number!!

    • @kalebbruwer
      @kalebbruwer 8 років тому +5

      Anurag Krishnan is there some kind of program to play with this that everyone except I know about?

    • @GnuReligion
      @GnuReligion 7 років тому +1

      Wonder if that web site is actually using big integer math, or merely deriving bitmaps from the binary conversion of the number? .... umm, well, yeah, duh, guess at least some big integers have to be involved just to derive the binary.

    • @Tara_Li
      @Tara_Li 7 років тому +1

      That's what the FLOOR function is doing in the formula - dropping off the decimal points.

    • @prajnaprajna1923
      @prajnaprajna1923 7 років тому

      I have found the exact result of the formula Fermat case n = 3.
      y=1/{ [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zy+2z^2 - 2Sx+2Sx -2Sz+ (x+y-z)/3 } / 2
      However , B is an integer .So y< 1
      does not accept
      Combine two formulas to solve Flt case n=3.
      Sx=1^2+2^2+3^2+....+x^2=(2x^3+3x^2+x) / 6.
      And
      x^2+y^2-z^2=(x+y-z)^2 +2xy-2zxz-2zy+2z^2
      suppose
      x^3+y^3=z^3
      so
      3Sx-3/2x^2-x/2+3Sy-3/2y^2 - y/2 - (3Sz -3/2z^2-z/2)=0
      so
      2Sx-x^2-x/3+2Sy-y^2 - y/3 - (2Sz -z^2-z/3)=0
      so
      (2Sx+2Sy-2Sz)-(x^2+y^2-z^2) =(x/3+y/3-z/3)
      so
      [Sx+S(x-1)+Sy+S(y-1)-Sz-S(z-1)]=(x+y-z)/3
      so
      (x+y-z)^2=[3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2
      because
      x^2+y^2-z^2=(x+y-z)^2 +2xy-2zxz-2zy+2z^2
      so
      x^2+y^2-z^2=[3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zxz-2zy+2z^2
      And there was
      x^2+y^2 - z^2=2Sx+2Sx -2Sz - (x+y-z)/3
      compare
      2Sx+2Sx -2Sz - (x+y-z)/3=[3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zx-2zy+2z^2
      So
      x={ (2Sx+2Sx -2Sz) - (x+y-z)/3 - [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2+2zx+2zy-2z^2 } / 2y
      z={ [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zy+2z^2 - 2Sx+2Sx -2Sz+ (x+y-z)/3 } / 2x
      z={ [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zx+2z^2 - 2Sx+2Sx -2Sz +(x+y-z)/3 } / 2y
      call
      { (2Sx+2Sx -2Sz) - (x+y-z)/3 - [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2+2zx+2zy-2z^2 } / 2 is A
      So
      x=A/y
      { [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zy+2z^2 - 2Sx+2Sx -2Sz+ (x+y-z)/3 } / 2 is B
      z=B/x
      { [3Sx+3S(x-1)+3Sy+3S(y-1)-3Sz-3S(z-1)]^2 +2xy-2zx+2z^2 - 2Sx+2Sx -2Sz +(x+y-z)/3 } /2 is C
      y=C/z
      Because x^3+y^3=z^3
      So
      A^3/y^3+C^3/z^3=B^3/x^3
      B^3/x^3=(A^3.z^3+C^3.y^3) / (zy)^3
      B^3.(zy)^3=x^3A^3.z^3+x^3C^3.y^3
      So
      (Bzy)^3=(Axz)^3+(Cxy)^3
      This is x,y,z
      So
      z=Bzy
      So
      1=By
      So
      y=1/B
      Because B is integer so y

  • @Janders797
    @Janders797 9 років тому +18

    When half the video was over, I thought this was a late April fools video. Now I'm just impressed.

  • @Dapeepn1gg4
    @Dapeepn1gg4 8 років тому +946

    So somewhere in there is everything you've ever said and done typed in comic sans.

    • @UnityGamin
      @UnityGamin 8 років тому +122

      if it fits in thar area of 17x106 YES

    • @Monkyupurbutt
      @Monkyupurbutt 8 років тому +15

      +Dapeep Fonts probably have to have a higher resolution than that, so ... no.

    • @lilman82111
      @lilman82111 7 років тому +40

      Monkyupurbutt it'll probably need to be found in separate parts

    • @davr1
      @davr1 6 років тому +4

      Most fonts are just vector images, so u can't find any sharp pixels in it

    • @deadaccount8022
      @deadaccount8022 5 років тому +19

      @@davr1 Vector yes, but prior to cleartype and AA, fonts like Comic Sans were designed to be rendered in an aliased manner. So yes, you'd be able to find Comic Sans text.

  • @WingnutEOD
    @WingnutEOD 6 років тому +7

    I love people. I love that people can come up with this stuff. And I'm grateful that you folks [The people that make Numberphile happen] bring amazing and interesting things into the forefront.

  • @S1lv3r_Flame
    @S1lv3r_Flame 9 років тому +6

    This has truly amazed me. I've watched pretty much all Numberphile videos, and this is by far the most amazing video ever. When Matt brought up the plot, my jaw was literally wide open. Thank you for the excellent video!

  • @hanslee475
    @hanslee475 7 років тому +640

    We are number one but it is made using Tupper's formula

    • @toastysauze
      @toastysauze 7 років тому +12

      Genious

    • @old-bitprogaming4857
      @old-bitprogaming4857 7 років тому +40

      Hans Lee if you wanna be mathematician number one you need to solve the formula on the run!
      Just do simple operation and do it quick be carefull not to make a mistake, no 1+1=2 not 1. Now look at this calculator that I just found, when I say go be ready to do the operation.
      Go!
      But that one doesn't have the mod function
      Ohh let's buy another one
      Now watch and learn here's the deal. Code and program with HTML. JA JA JA
      What are you doing!
      Lolol

    • @ianpoe8704
      @ianpoe8704 7 років тому +6

      someone took time out of their day to make a mathy version of WANO.
      *faith in humanity lowers*

    • @kylecow1930
      @kylecow1930 7 років тому +4

      OLD-BIT ProGaming, HTML isnt a coding/progressing language its a markup language
      (its in the name. HyperText Markup Language)

    • @TheGIANTgonads
      @TheGIANTgonads 7 років тому

      It has boolean and arithmetic operations so you could build anything really, it just not what it was made for.

  • @thelittleoctopus2353
    @thelittleoctopus2353 7 років тому +184

    OK I thought I got maths but after that pacman I was just like nope someone's just making fun of me my whole life's been a lie

    • @nathanhargreaves7071
      @nathanhargreaves7071 7 років тому +11

      It is real, though.

    • @thelittleoctopus2353
      @thelittleoctopus2353 7 років тому +13

      yeah no I do believe it but I just think it's also amazingly hilarious XD

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool 4 роки тому +4

      It's actually meaningless, like the library of Babel. It's just confusing people who don't understand how *all* information representation works. It's just one particular encoding.

  • @JLConawayII
    @JLConawayII 9 років тому +378

    What?! What is...I don't even.....WHAT?!

    • @Djorgal
      @Djorgal 9 років тому +13

      Indeed.

    • @standupmaths
      @standupmaths 9 років тому +52

      Well said.

    • @DahBlindNinja
      @DahBlindNinja 9 років тому +4

      +RFC3514
      actually, it plots every bitmap of height 16. It will not stop at length 106, it will go up to bitmaps of 16x1749395729 or even 16x374729273837373838383838363828284846 and up further

    • @DahBlindNinja
      @DahBlindNinja 9 років тому +2

      +The_Blind_Ninja
      actually replace all those 16s by 17s

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK 9 років тому

      RFC3514 Heh. Evil bit.

  • @kermanguy1877
    @kermanguy1877 9 років тому +298

    If I look hard enough, will I find the exact position of my goddamn car keys?

    • @RussellTeapot
      @RussellTeapot 9 років тому +40

      Kerman Guy only a pixelated version of those filthy keys

    • @snowberry3118
      @snowberry3118 7 років тому +10

      and everywhere your keys aren't...

    • @lukewatson8848
      @lukewatson8848 7 років тому +5

      878092144743601036050755526519512409743609013213694363450423579222198504825032290931305417025688609712993967554282623970424953235311665126946357353896133721225774739681694303824857856769467870456049364161556924431195356738205098398192574158268323021754386558528738911435423511900352239285034894227861339824931864863783878072358640768067180073112684135118485653967723048962183874467806189739293963867505212603587830794000219928129217074615702474450249684729664307009066375627636048836542899724531725768990448

    • @chiyanyu553
      @chiyanyu553 7 років тому +4

      yeah but you won't know that you found it

    • @fgvcosmic6752
      @fgvcosmic6752 6 років тому

      But youll also find where your car keys ARENT

  • @car-keys
    @car-keys 8 років тому +2

    This is my favorite Numberphile video, Matt Parker kills it.

  • @fraxinellla
    @fraxinellla 9 років тому +150

    7:00 "..years from now..."? I expect it will be done before the day is through..

    • @fraxinellla
      @fraxinellla 9 років тому +128

      ***** ...aaaand now I realize I need a copy of the book to sort it out.. Well played. Excellent marketing!

    • @pooeyyeoop1
      @pooeyyeoop1 9 років тому +21

      ***** If you do get the book and do it please do tell people what it is, I hope it is just the word 'trolol'

    • @AceandDuce
      @AceandDuce 9 років тому

      I would expect it to be don't now

    • @wingbull2009
      @wingbull2009 9 років тому +26

      ***** I bet it's actually the correct plot and he's just a marketing genius.

    • @TeamDemoClan2
      @TeamDemoClan2 9 років тому +3

      ***** Here's a start:
      96093937991895888
      49716729621278527
      54715004339660129
      30665150551927170
      28023952664246896
      42842174350718121
      26715378277062335
      59932372808741443
      07891325963941337

  • @Seltyk
    @Seltyk 8 років тому +287

    This is, without a doubt, the coolest formula I have ever seen. If you'll excuse me, I need to go find the k value for my own username which means I won't be back for a while

    • @Seltyk
      @Seltyk 8 років тому +4

      DanTheStripe you are the greatest human alive. *thanks!!!*

    • @DanTheStripe
      @DanTheStripe 8 років тому

      wundrweapon Haha, no worries mate.

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 6 років тому +1

      wundrweapon I can't see what he sent you :(

    • @uhrguhrguhrg
      @uhrguhrguhrg 6 років тому +2

      DaComputerNerd generating the binary number is super easy for any image. Translating it to dec is a bit harder but still easy.

    • @rfirebolt
      @rfirebolt 6 років тому +1

      It's been a year, did you find it yet

  • @david203
    @david203 4 роки тому +2

    The long k value simply encodes the dots of the plot. Actually quite simple. But amazing the first time you see it when the number k has not been explained as yet.

  • @coloneldookie7222
    @coloneldookie7222 9 років тому +19

    When he brought out the sheet with Pac-Man, I thought this video was one giant joke of some sort.
    By the end, my brain finally wrapped around what and how this all worked, and I'm completely astounded by the complexity available for such a relatively "simple" formula (that isn't as lengthy as the k-value needed to define everything within).

    • @spookyfbi8
      @spookyfbi8 9 років тому +1

      Colonel Dookie I thought it was a joke too and it was put up 2 weeks too late.

    • @RussellTeapot
      @RussellTeapot 9 років тому

      Colonel Dookie If you are amazed with simple formulas or procedures that can create something really complex, I suggest you to search about fractals... I'm sure you could find that quite interesting

  • @GBart
    @GBart 9 років тому +326

    Similar to how you can find your phone number in pi if you keep looking

    • @oakenguitar3
      @oakenguitar3 9 років тому +5

      AndroidDoctorr lol my number occurs 20 times in the first 200 million digits.

    • @mrphlip
      @mrphlip 9 років тому +23

      AndroidDoctorr It's similar, but it's more like how you can find your phone number in "0000000000000001000000020000000300000004"... it's not just easy to find, but it's also easy to figure out where to look to find it, once you know the pattern...

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 9 років тому +32

      AndroidDoctorr Actually, we don't know that you can find your phone number in pi. Numbers that contain every finite sequence of digits are called "normal" but we don't know if pi is normal or not.

    • @oakenguitar3
      @oakenguitar3 9 років тому

      beeble2003 it might not work for every number or everyone but I did find that pi contains my number, I googled it and found a site that could tell me how many times my phone number or any number occurs (as long as it wasn't too large) in the first 200 million digits. it occurs 20 times. I didn't use area code though, I only used 7 digits. It couldn't do it with area code included.

    • @MattMcIrvin
      @MattMcIrvin 9 років тому +2

      AndroidDoctorr It's even more like how you can find an approximation as accurate as you like to any analytic function somewhere in the Riemann zeta function.

  • @corb805
    @corb805 4 роки тому +22

    This would be an amazing way to hide codes. Just give someone the k coordinates and you can give someone any message

    • @priyanshugoel3030
      @priyanshugoel3030 2 роки тому

      No ,actually might as well just give them in writing.

    • @jacobschiller4486
      @jacobschiller4486 2 роки тому

      @@priyanshugoel3030 But if someone else sees the number, they might not necessarily be well-informed on the context.

    • @priyanshugoel3030
      @priyanshugoel3030 2 роки тому +1

      @@jacobschiller4486 what i said might have been an overexaggeration. But still it is pretty inefficient for info transfer.maybe you could share a shortened link though.

  • @enoughofyourkoicarp
    @enoughofyourkoicarp 9 років тому +15

    *looks around slowly* "That seven should be a two."
    (quick, run before he gets done checking)

  • @JugglingAnusJuggler
    @JugglingAnusJuggler 9 років тому +9

    oh ya youre right. i encounter that number practically every day of my life

  • @sahilsharma2952
    @sahilsharma2952 6 років тому +1

    The best video I have seen till date. Hands down.

  • @alcesmir
    @alcesmir 9 років тому +4

    This equation makes so much more sense when you realize all these equations is just reducing the data to lattice points and doing some bit shifts and and'ing with 1 to get the data you want out of your chosen y start value.
    Really neat and fun to play around with. It also taught me that octave apparently doesn't support arbitrary size integers, while python does it easily.

  • @araam688
    @araam688 9 років тому +20

    This formula has to be the most unique, natural, and mind-blowing equation I have encountered. Love math and love how this ties into binary meaning this is how images are made in computers I believe. Again, just mind blowing.

    • @hairohukosu433
      @hairohukosu433 2 роки тому

      Well, its more an abstract representation of all possible pixel permutations than how computers actually work, but yeah

  • @doid3r4s
    @doid3r4s 8 років тому +22

    I'm sorry, I have to grab my brain from the ceiling, be right back.

  • @RainaRamsay
    @RainaRamsay 9 років тому +11

    It's possible this is the coolest thing ever done.

    • @YuzuDrink
      @YuzuDrink 9 років тому +1

      Hah! That's super cool! And quite impressive. It's like a mathematical way to encode pixel data rather than the digital ways we currently have.

  • @souravzzz
    @souravzzz 7 років тому +3

    Huh what a coincidence! I was reading Tupper's original paper today and now you posted this :)

  • @jeremyrekier6124
    @jeremyrekier6124 7 років тому

    That's the kind of video that makes me check the day of original posting expecting it to be the 1st of April. That's astounding.

  • @Hedning1390
    @Hedning1390 8 років тому +34

    matt was 'ere

  • @piguy314159
    @piguy314159 9 років тому +144

    5:44 If that number encodes the Numberphile logo, isn't it illegal?

    • @piguy314159
      @piguy314159 9 років тому +6

      /watch?v=wo19Y4tw0l8

    • @SuperSilkyJohnson
      @SuperSilkyJohnson 8 років тому +44

      +piguy314159 Arrest that formula.

    • @RadicalCaveman
      @RadicalCaveman 8 років тому +3

      +AshyLarry No, society's to blame - we'll arrest them instead.

    • @extrascript6622
      @extrascript6622 6 років тому

      piguy314159 TWL!

    • @Zaddis
      @Zaddis 5 років тому

      NumberWorld woooosh

  • @kaselier1116
    @kaselier1116 7 років тому +5

    I was pretty uninterested at first, but that has got to be one of the coolest things in all mathematics.

  • @aajjeee
    @aajjeee 9 років тому +63

    But what is beyond the k value for a completely black screen?

    • @TheSpacecraftX
      @TheSpacecraftX 9 років тому

      aajjeee Maybe there isn't one. Maybe it's undefined.

    • @CaesarsSalad
      @CaesarsSalad 9 років тому +25

      TheSpacecraftX How could it possibly be undefined? Look at the formula.

    • @xereeto
      @xereeto 9 років тому +4

      aajjeee Try it and see

    • @kyconny
      @kyconny 9 років тому +9

      aajjeee the grid is 106 * 17, meaning there are 1802 squares, making for a 1802 bit number, thus the number holts 2^1802 possible values (including zero), so the number for a completely black screen would be 2^1802 - 1
      285793394306920833441610418092098634655629245793956098678773267955742373149291514664653927800704880150373913388423749690746007967577679155184353688551864105050094392601490879904551645289937784458453139617535910572704774231271588108092253680499408135958507227058036551719659148821493652464309016970613693109544906508636480672894494640559860467878289647366663850331954867463170600301178621010101029372654264171297982037231491311892858947537525986757827169736600317880446647247045504644272222656049350793825164158207773197137018282319809299349503

    • @philipjohansson3949
      @philipjohansson3949 9 років тому +4

      kyconny You forgot to multiply by 17, but also, because of the mod() funcions, wouldn't -17 also be a black screen?

  • @gizmostudios
    @gizmostudios 7 років тому +233

    New challenge: The input number that will plot out itself

    • @staudinga
      @staudinga 7 років тому +37

      I thought about that too, but many input numbers are so large, that you can't really fit them inside the grid, so I think it's probably impossible

    • @guruhoro
      @guruhoro 7 років тому +48

      You could theoretically find a number that you could express as an equation that fit in the space, using exponents etc.

    • @gizmostudios
      @gizmostudios 7 років тому +4

      Make it happen :D

    • @lucasvignolireis8181
      @lucasvignolireis8181 6 років тому +3

      Gizmo Studios that's waaaay harder

    • @JannikPitt
      @JannikPitt 6 років тому +3

      Well that number doesn't necessarily exist. I'd even say that it is highly unlikely that such a number exists.

  • @607
    @607 2 роки тому

    This had been in my Watch later since 2016... I'm glad to have finally seen it, it was cool!

  • @MegaZsolti
    @MegaZsolti 8 років тому +439

    Plot this, please.
    9408928788638436073397719484541912079027883772177344090495082334914131517318234804104390228430351549078269334248551016667270814781207752121794763744166930316881129380042249811691535538095731067521739182945171239982281553282396067618909192276711649883646387408446333210067526748400389708161025959606958847356077907779033319194993348211890873810554512753922174049943465745841135008826184759245860432296143364030060503336420520411602441972077146080444396835484655908275955552316413205953482173141171470877758929620951462577138994933922005060

    • @Skylar.vanderwoude
      @Skylar.vanderwoude 8 років тому +34

      curse you :P

    • @bengineer8
      @bengineer8 8 років тому +14

      LOL!!!!!!

    • @The_Green_Ghost
      @The_Green_Ghost 8 років тому +66

      477074188659101768156750670273788898386333499160967376261158418019968707389294626930556858011093390306037754345195556375445161500215690779153113781840030839964971886991609514916866140806171873533987565901709876441897732383973719416423161977393489395047131006567318132155519276760741414727190005950893317232749925978317016271246898321557134069574971428848

    • @Onimirare
      @Onimirare 8 років тому +1

      There's a website to translate this? I couldn't find it.

    • @bengineer8
      @bengineer8 8 років тому +40

      NomeInvalido tuppers-formula.tk

  • @morscoronam3779
    @morscoronam3779 8 років тому +192

    This is astounding...
    Absolutely confounding...
    Frankly, it's insane.
    Also, the first three lines are a haiku.

    • @itsanumolu
      @itsanumolu 6 років тому

      Mors Coronam wow that is beautiful

    • @atanaciogarza7176
      @atanaciogarza7176 5 років тому

      No, for it to be a haiku, at some point in the poem you must reference a season or something seasonal.

    • @davidforgeas2235
      @davidforgeas2235 5 років тому

      Not really, it's just decoding the bits one my one with the modulo operations.

  • @camerongray7767
    @camerongray7767 5 років тому +1

    I just found a new favourite math UA-cam video

  • @MrPatatogamer
    @MrPatatogamer 9 років тому +51

    how to destroy your graphical calculator you had to buy for school xD

  • @andrasfogarasi5014
    @andrasfogarasi5014 8 років тому +13

    So there is everything...
    4555091711244117493438346084238864012330730653781366947789267256009612609538736184658399545826367977013336345946058897680151095054837325582942694676552628780022918419835460511778760719504849199463816817005721123518840216773502064681553119738267243694399450411724138109368066507935990387059972100765633228580006046767388148421746923731855405112827176587307260473489333806726778469102150985525776485013579401581058555090879008179874854571975269491345876073081943198773575390962805787503109389590331030469084672858918253336723104095041330534678511

    • @thomaskaldahl196
      @thomaskaldahl196 8 років тому

      +András Fogarasi kitty

    • @jameswise9171
      @jameswise9171 8 років тому +4

      +András Fogarasi There IS everything! 4049794512163849644978004481390526619142266047648863597623958365816687269099081642094961145691485350744232146762737614798707922377115841852472278876188557839484936374452248115984929179530271140325320443658149564594997323690097785841432003835824178520871415025399369566316265078571993942705219640850829061723439514482324924755123221163420411516128523214572846130634642108161189740544

    • @Thomasynthesis
      @Thomasynthesis 8 років тому +2

      Fixed it for ya. 4858487703217654168507377107565676789145697178497253677539145555247620343537955749299116772611982962556356527603203744742682135448820545638134012705381689785851604674225344958377377969928942335793703373498110479735981161931616997837568312568489938311294622859986621379234205529965392091893253288500432782862263410646820171439206408889517627953930924005233285455643232746873900205120036557171717499335122490912065694632935352302178602108137941774883061609026136356717962911449275408908448119205858928916227964752568083880766320836794510567391487

  • @jaguarr314
    @jaguarr314 4 роки тому +10

    This video made me check the date for April 1st. Math becomes so incredible that you don't know if it's fake sometimes.

  • @jamesonpayne3490
    @jamesonpayne3490 6 років тому +2

    This is so meta I just can't express how awesome it is

  • @jackwalsh8601
    @jackwalsh8601 9 років тому +262

    Very interesting but there is only a finite number of ways to colour a 17*106 graph. What happens when all of them have been graphed

    • @davidsl118
      @davidsl118 9 років тому +97

      +Jack Walsh Must be repeating itself.

    • @Gogetaofpersia
      @Gogetaofpersia 9 років тому +23

      that is like the best comment i've read till now.....

    • @Treviisolion
      @Treviisolion 9 років тому +12

      +Jack Walsh I believe there are 2^1802 different unique pictures you can make with this formula (2^1000 apparently has 301 digits), so yea.

    • @Treviisolion
      @Treviisolion 9 років тому +3

      +Jack Walsh That does make me curious though.

    • @naota3k
      @naota3k 9 років тому +2

      +Jack Walsh What happens? Nothing?

  • @stiveturtle530
    @stiveturtle530 8 років тому

    This has to be their best video

  • @gro_skunk
    @gro_skunk 9 років тому +87

    how these people memorize numbers that long will forever be a mystery to me

    • @qwertyuiopazsd4253
      @qwertyuiopazsd4253 9 років тому +70

      +Skunkdog Gro They put it next to where they are writing and copy them

    • @leonardorezende106
      @leonardorezende106 9 років тому +20

      +Skunkdog Gro He put the wrong number in his book, what makes you think he actually wrote the correct version there?

    • @ZweiSpeedruns
      @ZweiSpeedruns 8 років тому +3

      +Clayton Fuhrman Due to a common misinterpretation of the fact that actual computer bitmaps work differently than this, the most common number used to represent the equation is plotted upside-down.

    • @GeneralKenobi69420
      @GeneralKenobi69420 3 роки тому

      Furry cringe

    • @owena7434
      @owena7434 2 роки тому

      @@ZweiSpeedruns Are you talking about endianness?

  • @postbodzapism
    @postbodzapism 9 років тому +50

    Is there anything like this in the 3D plot?

    • @postbodzapism
      @postbodzapism 9 років тому +1

      relike868p or sth to do in 4 dimensions lol

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 9 років тому +26

      relike868p There's no reason why you can't do it (i.e., make a voxel map printer instead of a bitmap printer), but the "K" numbers get a _lot_ bigger.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 9 років тому +8

      FlyingJetpack1 Simulating what? You mean printing out every possible variation? Yes, that would take a long time (basically, it takes Z x T, where T is the time it takes to print every possible result of the 2-dimensional function and Z is the number of layers). Since the 2D version has 2^1802 possible variations, that does "add up", to put it mildly.
      But if you're just trying to print out _one_ voxel map, it's only Z x t, with t being the time it takes to print out _one_ 106x17 bitmap). In other words, pretty quick.
      Actually, 106 might not be enough (because the formula would be longer), but you get the picture.
      The real problem is that the size of the number K (which is what _actually_ encodes the "image") _also_ increases by a factor equal to the number of layers, even if you're just trying to print _one_ voxel map. So a 10-layer voxel (i.e., with a resolution of 106x17x10) would have a K number with 10x the digits of the number Matt used here. Basically, you're just "stacking" a series of bitmaps into that number, one after the other (and then using a modulo operation to split the layers while printing them out).
      And, of course, you can't really represent it with pen and paper (you'd need Lego bricks or something 3D), which limits its "party trick" potential, even if you managed to memorise the huge number.

    • @oO_ox_O
      @oO_ox_O 9 років тому

      FlyingJetpack1 Nah, the number will be large (and you need quite some amount of space for storing it) but still will not take years because you don't need to try and guess something.

    • @FlyingJetpack1
      @FlyingJetpack1 9 років тому

      o_O I missunderstood him, now that I know he ment rendering a certain K it's not as difficult as I thought it is. But in a 3D formula the numbers the K can get to are astronomically gigantic. As you said, it will take few GBs to storage all those numbers and extracting them to the formula will take a few mins.

  • @adrianmoolman5255
    @adrianmoolman5255 7 років тому

    I dont think i will see anything cooler than this in any math class i have had, am having, or ever will have.

  • @nyalldavis
    @nyalldavis 9 років тому +10

    Was about to ask if this could be used for some crazy compression, then I watched the bit where the K number is the uncompressed image...
    Back to square 1...

    • @btat16
      @btat16 3 роки тому +1

      Hi guy from 5 years ago! What if you found factors of those numbers and saved those instead?

  • @timvansurksum
    @timvansurksum 3 роки тому +4

    This is the coolest "semi hyperwebster" I've ever seen

  • @WojtekCzaderna
    @WojtekCzaderna 5 років тому +6

    After you showed Pacman I checked if the release of the video was not 1st of April

  • @uPenguin
    @uPenguin 9 років тому +5

    This is insanely cool!

  • @karlmachnow4961
    @karlmachnow4961 5 років тому +69

    This formula is illegal in germany.
    Why? Because, at some point, it contains some not-so-nice-looking swastikas.

  • @MicheleeiRettili
    @MicheleeiRettili 8 років тому

    loving this

  • @aadfg0
    @aadfg0 9 років тому +12

    Fun fact: Insane graphs like these have only come out in the past few decades or so. The Mandelbrot set was so hard to plot that this was literally the best picture they had of the set in the 70's and 80's: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mandel.png Nowada
    Anyways, the main point is you gotta be thankful for computers which have made discovering things like these easier. It would be impossible to "discover" a Tupper Formula before the 1st century!

  • @нескажунескажу-с8ц
    @нескажунескажу-с8ц 2 роки тому +8

    Ты меня поразил в самое сердце! Я первый раз в жизни с радостью на лице наблюдал за математикой. Меня первый раз в жизни заинтересовала математика! Это нечто!!! Спасибо! Так держать! Ты крут!

  • @firegirl1287
    @firegirl1287 5 років тому

    Great direction on this video - brilliant

  • @peaceistherealmuscle
    @peaceistherealmuscle 7 років тому +12

    Anyone else who checked and found that he used the number k for the upside down version of the formula?

    • @jacobschiller4486
      @jacobschiller4486 3 роки тому

      Yeah! I wonder how you can transform plots using that inequality for a given value of k...

  • @guard13007
    @guard13007 8 років тому +20

    Has anyone actually gone and figured out the plot from his book yet??

    • @thomaskaldahl196
      @thomaskaldahl196 8 років тому +16

      +Guard13007 it has the words "matt was here"

    • @DynamiteBacon
      @DynamiteBacon 8 років тому +2

      Second time I've found you unintentionally outside your channel.

    • @tilnation14
      @tilnation14 8 років тому +1

      No, it says "matt was 'ere"

  • @BlueSquad00
    @BlueSquad00 2 роки тому

    You can't possibly make maths more interesting than this guy

  • @PikalaxALT
    @PikalaxALT 9 років тому +23

    There are 2^1926 or 6078153291570505049950071276536638079404318120619847471539261205157450642348546168006770394132550721035068726296830713560389041699075758033545794462842837124927197605659660657814206393320816342070822997305553394052957504523655639148369650298525306301897561822259909700294109249193992132082636963801030910844946591834474977036099501761933577693294715247782869828358876835586348240220513290123228337041478835485477158320667250939610051764567232830698066368848946964033425097018126687442231039835221758080473219817014946335864250609802497581088885008037817468710693714003740395044864 possible plots using this scheme.
    A more general formula would look something like 1/2

    • @RikyPerdana
      @RikyPerdana 2 роки тому +2

      Can it mean that our whole universe is just a series of constants being plotted on space through this equation in timely manner? Mind blown

  • @Seven111
    @Seven111 8 років тому +99

    What's with this random brown paper that they always use?

    • @kalebbruwer
      @kalebbruwer 8 років тому +73

      It's their thing, it looks nice.

    • @cowlikenuts
      @cowlikenuts 7 років тому

      Sam Jacob ...

    • @thorham1346
      @thorham1346 7 років тому +64

      It's not random if they ALWAYS use it.

    • @Posiman
      @Posiman 7 років тому +24

      It's just the basic color of paper that has not been dyed nor bleached (as it's the color of the wood pulp itself) and therefore slightly cheaper than white paper.

    • @kiva8986
      @kiva8986 7 років тому +9

      It might actually be random. We've just not seen the other type of paper yet.

  • @frankiewotton7149
    @frankiewotton7149 6 років тому

    This is one of the most fascinating things I’ve ever seen

  • @tggt00
    @tggt00 9 років тому +9

    Am I the only one who thought this is a joke? It really seems like a great april fools joke.

  • @anon8109
    @anon8109 9 років тому +27

    "self referential" is a bit deceptive. A truly self referential formula would refer only to itself and not to anything else. Perhaps "partly self-referential" is closer to the truth.
    This poses the obvious question: does a truly self-referential formula exist? One where its plot is exactly the formula.

    • @10ozPoundCake
      @10ozPoundCake 9 років тому +4

      anon8109 If you accept computer programs as sort of mathematical formulas with additional symbols and operations, then a quine would be your answer. There's some really interesting and clever ones out there that are worth a google search.

    • @anon8109
      @anon8109 9 років тому

      Jakub Trávník
      Wonderful!

    • @TheHuesSciTech
      @TheHuesSciTech 9 років тому

      Jakub Trávník Yeah, see what you've done there is actually clever, unlike the video.

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 9 років тому

      anon8109 I doubt there is one that is actually both self-referential _and_ elegant.
      BTW, Tupper himself did a couple of versions of such formulae. Just have a look at the Wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupper%27s_self-referential_formula

    • @xXsolar99Xx
      @xXsolar99Xx 9 років тому

      Jakub Trávník Very impressive!

  • @henrybright6858
    @henrybright6858 6 років тому

    Thank you for sharing your love of mathematics with the world.

  • @Sylocat
    @Sylocat 9 років тому +9

    I'm confused at the "1/2

    • @SomeRandomFellow
      @SomeRandomFellow 9 років тому +2

      +Rabbit Cube maybe if you wanted to do algebra to it and get everything on one side you would need to use 1/2

    • @fizzicist7678
      @fizzicist7678 9 років тому

      +Rabbit Cube
      I don't know half of the key functions here, but as far as the mod function is concerned, the function you divide is that one that takes X and Y co ordinates, and does those many things you want it to do. Because it uses 2 as the base of it all, dividing it by 2 makes the mod return a 0 or a 1, because you either have an odd or an even number to divide by 2.
      Odds give remainder 1, so mod returns 1 for odds, and evens return 0.
      Think you have a point there for the 1/2< not being important and neither does the bigger floor function since the mod will give you 0 or 1 anyway. But wouldn't be plotting itself then now would it?

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat 9 років тому +1

      +DarkBabyIon Well, it WOULD be plotting itself, because it plots everything, and they could just find where that was written out.
      Heck, since it's a floor function of a mod 2 function, they could just start it "1 =."

    • @QwertyuiopThePie
      @QwertyuiopThePie 8 років тому

      +Rabbit Cube In that case, you'd want to check this one:
      k = 153016202616638617152446647003205613599981464756945123501364320098017713905156881492682697332376227150372309520033482137529592674563223860831468029565267112858059457613314371589211602590697776649293897193922521297331223349187269154673136000122962790229393631480425629022486770086267963735018395718727367264503414661496293559422530848982844140255148194967047341549981366555660949891524452487183237441070454253250642346731490256955776761631210221209730658863424502193029575117804927143608280853026679311318841530214079089737740807632170761977839

    • @QwertyuiopThePie
      @QwertyuiopThePie 8 років тому +1

      +Rabbit Cube In that case, you'd want to check this one:
      k = 153016202616638617152446647003205613599981464756945123501364320098017713905156881492682697332376227150372309520033482137529592674563223860831468029565267112858059457613314371589211602590697776649293897193922521297331223349187269154673136000122962790229393631480425629022486770086267963735018395718727367264503414661496293559422530848982844140255148194967047341549981366555660949891524452487183237441070454253250642346731490256955776761631210221209730658863424502193029575117804927143608280853026679311318841530214079089737740807632170761977839

  • @L0LWTF1337
    @L0LWTF1337 9 років тому +11

    How on earth did anyone ever find out that would happen?

    • @Creaform003
      @Creaform003 9 років тому +39

      L0LWTF1337 started with the finished product and worked backward.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 9 років тому +5

      L0LWTF1337 The formula just prints out bitmaps. There are equivalent (though more complex and more flexible) formulas in every digital paint program. This is more or less like using Photoshop to open a BMP file of the text "Photoshop", and then calling Photoshop "self-referential".
      The actual formula doesn't contain itself; what contains the bitmap of the formula is the K number (which is just a bitmap converted to decimal).

  • @ProofOfDragons
    @ProofOfDragons 3 роки тому +2

    A complicated way to draw a bitmap trivially encoded in k.

  • @oraz.
    @oraz. 9 років тому +8

    I would love to see an animation of the plots as k increases quickly.

    • @oakenguitar3
      @oakenguitar3 9 років тому

      orazdow kamacurus! :D

    • @sethmitchell2176
      @sethmitchell2176 9 років тому

      orazdow It actually looks pretty boring. Very little changes if you only increase by a increment of 100 digits or less, and most of what you'll see is a bunch of lines on the right hand side of the image and a bunch of garbage on the left, slowly changing as time goes on.

  • @GenericInternetter
    @GenericInternetter 8 років тому +9

    At first i was like "meh"
    But then i was like "wtf?!"

  • @weiyuan1663
    @weiyuan1663 4 роки тому

    I love that book, and i’m so surprised that it’s made by you!!!

  • @TessaLucy
    @TessaLucy 5 років тому +7

    It crashed my phone when I looked for the word "oatmeal"

  • @gammaknife167
    @gammaknife167 9 років тому +35

    Ermm, guys, you do know april fools day was two weeks ago right?

    • @koolguy728
      @koolguy728 9 років тому +10

      Rohan Skatedude Lol it's not an April fool's joke mate

    • @alext2046
      @alext2046 9 років тому +11

      Rohan Skatedude Appreciate the warning. Disliked and reported the video.

    • @gammaknife167
      @gammaknife167 9 років тому +1

      Lol, I want a video explaining the mod function (of which I partially have an idea) and the Floor function? or flohr function? i dont even know. How do the 17's and whatnot make every single binary possible output?

    • @mrphlip
      @mrphlip 9 років тому +10

      Rohan Skatedude OK, so the different parts of the formula:
      Let's call our original bitmap "b"... so k = 17b
      Now, by design, k < y < k+17, so b < y/17 < b+1, so floor(y/17) is always b. This is how the formula gets at the bitmap we want to show, based on where we're looking with our y coordinate.
      Next, the formula around that is like:
      floor(mod(b * 2^-a, 2))
      (with "a" standing in for another subformula I'll get to in a moment.)
      This is the part that extracts the individual bits from our bitmap... it divides the binary number so that the digit we want is in the units place of the binary expansion, then the "mod 2" part gets rid of all the "larger" bits, while the floor gets rid of all the "smaller" bits, so this will be either a 0 or a 1, depending on whether the a-th bit is set in the binary expansion of b.
      The "1/2 < stuff" is just a simple way of making an inequality that's true when the extracted bit is a 1, and false when it's a 0.
      That just leaves the definition of "a"... 17*floor(x) + mod(floor(y),17)
      This can be broken down a bit: we're taking floor(x) and floor(y) so that we only have integers (and it means the formula will be the same for every point in each unit square, which is why the plot of the inequality ends up with all these square pixels).
      Then, the mod(floor(y),17) is essentially getting rid of "k", since it's a large multiple of 17... and gets us a number that ranges from 0 (at the bottom of the image) to 16 (at the top).
      Then multiplying the x coordinate by 17 and adding that on means that it will be 0 at the bottom left, counting up to 16 at the top left, then 17 at the bottom of the next column, up to 33 at the top of that column, etc.
      So, putting it all together, it counts up all the pixels in the grid in order, extracts that bit from the bitmap number, and evaluates to "true" (ie painting that pixel black in the plot) if the appropriate bit in the bitmap is "1".

    • @aligen5
      @aligen5 9 років тому +2

      ***** 15 = 3 (mod 4)

  • @tracyhouser3138
    @tracyhouser3138 6 років тому

    Love Matt's casual humor

  • @sungodmoth
    @sungodmoth 8 років тому +5

    Is there a similar function for things larger than 17x106?

    • @davidforgeas2235
      @davidforgeas2235 5 років тому

      This function can do 17*N for any N as long as you select the right k.

  • @thabestsniper
    @thabestsniper 8 років тому +5

    Which program do you use to plot these numbers?

    • @gabejordan
      @gabejordan 8 років тому +2

      That's what I want to know. Someone needs to make a website for this

    • @bryanciesla5528
      @bryanciesla5528 8 років тому +1

      4 replies, 3 are a link to the same exact site, does anyone know how to read? The question has already been answered, we don't need to keep answering, or asking the same question when the link is right above where you're typing

    • @DrummerRF
      @DrummerRF 8 років тому +4

      Bryan Ciesla Strange, those comments didn't show before? Or i'm just an idiot. Haha

    • @thabestsniper
      @thabestsniper 8 років тому +3

      Chen Rong Lu i used wolfram alpha before but i didn't know it could do this

  • @Xonatron
    @Xonatron 4 роки тому +1

    This formula contains all the digits of Pi. All of them! In groups albeit, all over, but with each group containing perfectly ordered digits of Pi that map it out to infinity.

  • @FederationStarShip
    @FederationStarShip 8 років тому +38

    What software could I use to play around with that formula? It's those massive K values which I guess will cause trouble

    • @oscarsmith3942
      @oscarsmith3942 7 років тому +1

      Python might be able to do it well as it's ints can get very big. (you would have to code it though)

    • @davee7910
      @davee7910 7 років тому +1

      Could you give me the code?

    • @loliconofcyrene4463
      @loliconofcyrene4463 6 років тому

      if you have access to a unix system (or have Cygwin installed on your computer) you can use the 'bc' program. it's an arbitrary-precision calculator that lets you play around with huge numbers in different bases. it doesn't support plotting though, so you still need to reformat/visualize the output digits in a separate program or manually using a text editor

    • @davidforgeas2235
      @davidforgeas2235 5 років тому

      @@loliconofcyrene4463 Indeed I've just used bc and I plot # or space for each point.

    • @dougbrwn
      @dougbrwn 4 роки тому

      @@davee7910 it's at point number 8367727725256277625525627727652552556277727625567495995874772766262.... (Not really)

  • @raymondstheawesome
    @raymondstheawesome 8 років тому +12

    i really like this one. it's one of the one's in all of human history!
    8953414250588800289617325535280035162245185117643995475877506652422836705738415400906601754022056564829041902932330989371135024941302123326626468495565476455539347561034022819549348140453960859887976630352333484101093920833233872830424595791482328307303309721098929255345581398650281997298382341797645910016

  • @BaseSixBasics
    @BaseSixBasics 11 місяців тому

    THIS IS SUPER USEFUL HOLY S*** I can imagine some circuitry in a computer monitor that decodes binary coordinate values to generate images

  • @Supware
    @Supware 8 років тому +40

    Can you explain why 17 features so heavily in this video? It excites me that it's prime but I feel that may be a coincidence

    • @andrewlecouteurbisson7217
      @andrewlecouteurbisson7217 8 років тому +42

      Its the height of the image

    • @negativeseven
      @negativeseven 8 років тому

      sup_bro!!!

    • @Supware
      @Supware 8 років тому

      +Teh Seven hello!! Who're you xD

    • @negativeseven
      @negativeseven 8 років тому +1

      Sup just one of those weird people who play meat boy sometimes :> fancy seeing you here

    • @Supware
      @Supware 8 років тому +2

      Teh Seven What can I say, maths is my thing c: