One thing I find frustrating is that Castlevania has a lot of potential as a tv series with stories that have a lot of room for creative freedom while also having a lot of lore to create a good structure. And the original series did this pretty well, even if people weren’t huge on some of the changes, they don’t break it as an adaptation. However it looks like this series just goes it’s own way completely, where it’s not really an adaptation anymore. I haven’t seen it, but that’s the vibe I get from it.
The stories do have a lot of room for created freedom that's exactly what they're doing. Most general audiences wouldn't like to see another story of Dracula doing the same thing he did in season 1 and 2 which is sadly the same plot for most Castlevania games. Plus the original most of the story there was brand new anyways (from seasons 2 to 4)
I have to admit, removing Richter's holy power in favor of Speaker Magic, as well as making Maria's mother another Speaker mage, rather than a someone who's blessed with holy protection, but bound by a code of nonviolence, is... kind of disappointing. I'm aware the showrunners seem to have something of a "church bad" vibe going, but it makes the world feel more shallow, and the worldbuilding more hollow, if the only way to fight vampires is with magic or _other_ gods' powers, but the traditional western spiritual methods don't work. Until and unless the showrunners decide that they do, that is. _[looks at Annette.]_
@@cklambo True, but that was one instance in Season One, which was done under the influence of Warren Ellis, whereas the more recent stuff - and Nocturne especially - was not. And I’m not inclined to believe that they’re interested in exploring the Christian side of things, like how significant of an affect it can have, where the series is involved.
Yeah No Castle, No Dracula... I was waiting for Rondo of Blood but maybe my problem is to expect the games in the series :( (good improvement on the art)
So for those who might be curious. In LOTS of information about Maria they say she's Annette's little sister. This was a translation error. In the game when they meet, because in 'Japanese' culture children address their elders who are not family with titles like Big Brother or Big Sister, Maria addresses Annette in this manner. When it was translated people assumed Maria was saying this because 'they' were blood related and others ran with it. Eventually making that the canon, but what Sindra said is legit. OG Maria is a distant member of the BELMONT clan. Another thing that doesn't get covered is that in Lament of Innocence Mathias becomes a vampire in a method other than biting. If one looks at turning another against their will into a vampire as sacrilege against God hence the issue with crosses. It would suggest that those who are unaffected found ways to become a vampire of their own will. Which well do as you want. Also Hey Sindra, as for why we can't see the castle. Maybe we should blame Ellis. As the prior series has Dracula come back WITH LISA, he's got no reason to still have his rage boner. Its possible that the castle exists somewhere else and he's living on his own. Which always bothering me, besides making the first series a poor man SoTN in now invalidates a lot of future conflicts cuz it gave Dracula back the one thing he wanted. Lisa.
I hate that they made lisa come back with dracula It makes no sense Why was she in hell? What's gonna be next for dracula if the reason for him being evil is gone? And i really don't see richter's ending arc without dracula and the netflix version of symphonie of the night either. If he needs to come back one time it's in this serie.
It makes no sense why Lisa would ever be in Hell, Dracula is in Hell, which separates him from Elisabetha and Lisa. His Castle is a living monster from Hell itself, or rather, it went to Hell and became alive like the Starship Event Horizon.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Well sadly it 'does' make sense. because Lisa sinned by wedding a 'monster', Dracula. Modern Christianity softens God a LOT as they focus more heavily on New Testament perceptions. But OG God would readily condemn to hell for being with a monster. The og stories of Cain is that when he was banished from the Garden of Eden he found Lilith (Adams' first wife) and married her thus monsters allowing Lilith to have the demons that plague the world. It just doesn't make sense for ELLIS to use this angle when he was writing for Marvel and was HEAVILY writing British Forklore into his run of Excalibur.
@@LadyLunarPhoenix No, it doesn’t make sense given the Laws given to Moses in the Old Testament either. If the wife is not involved in Adultery, not involved in murder, not involved in blasphemy, etc. she does not share her husband’s guilt. That is the Levitical Law. It goes farther in the games being borrowed from the 1992 Dracula film starring Gary Oldman, where the Count Dracula played by Gary Oldman is eternally cut off from his wife Elisabetha and whatever “reincarnations” he sees of her by the very Hell he went to for his blasphemy against God. The film, Bram Stoker’s Dracula starring Gary Oldman is a recommended film by myself for whomever has not seen it, because it tries to follow the novel with some liberties such as Count Dracula and Vlad the Impaler being confirmed as the same person, when the novel does not say as much. But part of the eternal anguish of Dracula in Castlevania games is the fact that he is cut off from Lisa, Elisabetha, and Adrian by Hell itself. Also, Dracula’s plot gets even sicker in Curse of Darknesss because it was to take over his Devil Forgemasters’ bodies to bring himself back to life.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes except she was practicing medicine, which got women (And men) burned at the stake or drowned. Like in distant villages women still practiced herbal meds cuz they were basically midwives. But what started in the city was the fear that women were using witch craft. Kinda 'if a woman is using herbs or such to do 'something' its witchcraft kill them' 'if men are using herbs or such to do 'something' its alchemy kill them' to 'Modern science says this tracks you guys suck'. Is what I WANTED to type.... Then I remembered something. We're talking the final season right? The season where Ellis got fired for sexual misconduct against women right? So it tracks given his personality that he would put an innocent woman in hell because he hurt innocent women and lost his job for it.... Gods damn it Ellis.... Its not story, its him being a dick one last time.
As a lifelong fan of the Castlevania series, I can enjoy the animated series for what it is, a story using characters inspired by the games as opposed to a proper adaptation of them. I just treat it as a separate continuity, the same as the Lords of Shadow games, and it makes it a lot more tolerable from the fanboy side of me. Do I still want a proper Castlevania adaptation? Absolutely! It's unfortunate that there isn't more crossover between the Castlevania fanbase and the indie animation community as I'm sure they'd do the games justice. As for the Netflix series, I think their biggest problem has been in calling them 'adaptations' when they're clearly new stories using characters 'inspired' by the games. Doing so set up certain expectations from the fans and it's totally understandable that fans of the games feel unsatisfied with the direction they went. Though with that said, anyone going into Nocturne with any expectation of a straight adaptation of Rondo of Blood after seeing the first Netflix Castlevania series are only fooling themselves at this point. The Annette race swap didn't really bother me as much as I know it does other dedicated Castlevania fans. That may be in good part due to my "this is a separate continuity to the games" attitude, but also because Annette was such a non-entity in the one game she was in. Sure, it was a little jarring at first, but I was still interested to see what direction they'd take her. Could they have expanded her character without changing her entire background and ethnicity? Of course, but even in doing so she's still a fair bit better than the generic damsel in distress/love interest role she originally filled. Granted, expanding Annette and making her more interesting is a pretty low bar and they could have done just about anything to clear it. Personally, with Simon's Quest being my first Castlevania, I was a little salty at first that they completely skipped over Simon's story. After I got over those initial feelings though, I could understand why they would. The Netflix series is very character driven in its storytelling, and they would need to create mostly completely original characters to fill out the cast for a series covering the time period of Castlevania and Simon's Quest or otherwise use an entirely different storytelling style. Maybe something more along the lines of Samurai Jack, which is the only series that immediately comes to mind that has a single, consistent central protagonist. However, I'm not entirely sure the Netflix Castlevania writers would be able to pull that off, so it's probably for the best that they skipped over him. A brief mention or nod to him would have been cool though, in the same vein as the portrait of Leon in the first series was.
I have a loose idea of what a Simon Belmont arc would look like over the course of CV1 and Simon's Quest. Granted, wouldn't be the 8-10 episodes per season like Netflix has now, but more like....four or five 20-minutes episodes with two seasons to cover both games. This keeps it open for all game-related story to be included but also for little quite moments or character building without needing to pad out a whole half-hour episode. Netflix likely requires whole half-hour episodes and also a minimum episodes per for them to greenlight each season, which is where a lot of the need for filler comes in. The downside to needing to play by a streaming service's rules.
I don't agree with you, if White Washing was, and is, racist (Christopher Lee as Fu Manchu, John Wayne as Genghis Khan, Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra, etc... ). Blackwashing is equally important and should not be encouraged or supported. There is much more than double standards, anti-White racism, and denials of our historical history and culture. If it's not good one way, it's not good the other either. (Or we would 100% do it, I would love to see the reaction of the ideologues of this Black Washing movement, if we did the same thing with Blade, Black Panther, or with Axel Foley the Beverly Hill cop. just to denounce their hypocrisy).
Not just that the crosses didn’t function as just a shape. They literally burned LeBlanc ( forgive me if I misspelled) by him touching them. I’m not sure even internally with the stories how it works. The best explanation I can think of in the games is someone channels energy through the cross or it’s nothing.
The detail of the sun is something that bothered me and in which the animation team was entirely to blame since it is clear that both Olrox and Drolta walk in the shadow avoiding it but at the time of animating it they did not know how to handle the scenes, i.e., they could have added a slight steam radiating from their bodies as happened to Vaublanc seconds before the sun touched him directly. And about Richter hitting them with his almost naked fists... it doesn't seem to me something problematic taking into account that Richter has always had that approach to martial arts at the same time that it is clear that his magic at that moment is over 9000 and that as connoisseurs of the games it can be very strange for us that he is not using the whip, the main weapon of always, to eliminate them.
The cross was also inconsistent. The part that works in the games is that the Belmonts can channel Holy powers through the cross, the water, and so on. That’s mostly special to the Belmonts, who are inspired by the Dracula character Van Helsing. There are others who use Holy Relics like Alucard, but his use isn’t as fine tuned as Richter, as Alucard can only use a super powerful ability similar to Grand Cross, but Alucard cannot scale down the power of his cross wielding like Richter can. Also the other holy relics, while useable by Alucard, aren’t usable for a super powerful method like Hydro Storm.
At least the Blade movies explained it by Vampires having protective suits or super sunscreen on, or the fact that Drake didn’t have the Sun problem in the first place
The series after season 2 just feels like fanfic,it even has a bunch of OCs that add nothing to the plot.dissapointed but not surprised. P.s:Look how they massacred my boy.(Hector)
They basically cut the most iconic intro carriage fight, yeah I know he fight death in the game and he suppose to be dead in the animated series timeline but they should just replace death with a bunch of vampires attacking his carriage while raining. 😑
@@SindraVaniaProjects I freely admit I had much higher hopes for it when it first started. Once it settled in, though, I just wished we had more music and monsters from the games. Then season 3 happened, and at that point, I gave up. I did continue to watch just to see what happened, and there were some neat moments. But yeah, I understand completely about wanting a much closer adaptation of the games.
I gave up on the first series and this one. Not sure why we can't have a Belmont vs Dracula series. Don't know why forge masters are supposed to be interesting or why every character needs a tearful backstory.
I'm okay with fleshing out characters from the games and giving them more backstory that may not have been present in the games...but "everyone has trauma as their main motivation" gets a bit old when you apply it to everyone in your main cast.
The problem with netflix is they're trying to replace half of the characters a black person and constantly put sex scenes in the plot. Yo. This is not about black people being enslaved. It's about killing vampire. Another failed series imho.
Thank You Once Again. I’ve been pretty busy. That being said, it’s odd that they have Maria the appearance and outfit of when she was 12 years old in Dracula X Chronicles but the series gives Maria as essentially at her Symphony age already. I understand why they wouldn’t want to give us a 12 year old character in their animation. But still, there’s an association of young Maria in that outfit. Thanks once again
Agreed about Maria's outfit choice when they aged her up to 16 from 12 for the show. I'm wondering if they'll switch to SotN outfit for S2 or make something new in the meantime.
@@KaosNova2 I had a feeling they were going to age her up based on the initial trailers...I just didn't realize it was going to be to 16. Its one of the more questionable decisions they made from a non-lore standpoint.
@@SindraVaniaProjects The Season 2 Preview shows her and Alucard sitting and talking with the same outfit but to be fair that could be not long after Season One ended. She might still change into the Green but time will tell. Besides, I’m going to use my month trial on One Piece and Arcane too. At the end, I will agree that the pink outfit is associated with her being young. The Green associated with her being grown up
@@SindraVaniaProjects Eh, I’m fine with it, cause truthfully I’m I don’t care about aging up a character unless it’s really Questionable and has some disturbing implications! Cause even in Symphony of the Night, she Did NOT Look 17, she looked like a youthful 19 or 20 years old.
Man, I'd love to have been able to write a version that was closer to the lore. I'd leave the events in-game up to the player, and instead focus on the story leading up to the game. Maybe stuff from during the games' events would be told from other characters' perspectives (like the villains or NPCs). I'd try to stay faithful to the characters and simply expand on what's there. I understand the risk of being so nebbish about accuracy that one forgets to tell an entertaining or engaging story but I'm pretty sure I could turn out something show-worthy. Satisfying the purists as well as casual viewers would be a challenge I'd love to take up. What about you, Sindra? You satisfied with what they gave us or what would you have wanted?
That was the idea it the animated movie trilogy that was canceled with Igarashi as producer and Warren Ellis as the Director. Iga and Ellis couldn’t reach an agreement on the product while Iga was in charge of Castlevania, so it didn’t happen
Thanks for the analysis, I like seeing what they pulled from the game and what stuff is new. I like how they tied in the west African/Haitian magic and spirituality to vampire hunting lore
I've never been shy about my opinion of the Netflix Castlevania series even when posting on the forums. I was deeply disappointed in the first cartoon to the point that I have no interest in ever going back to finish watching the last season. The trailers for this new series were marginally intriguing, but ultimately only served to reinforce my distaste for the direction taken with this show that is Castlevania in name only. Watching this video reinforced my disdain towards the show runners & writers of this tripe. So a hearty thanks to you, Sindra. Now I know not to waste my time. ~Inccubus
I don't want to come off like an asshole when comparing the shows to the games, but particularly with Nocturne it's clear the showrunners had different priorities than telling a story based solely in the game's lore and I wish they hadn't used Castlevania as a prop to achieve that this first season. Maybe that will change in season 2.
8:32 I would like to point out something interesting to note! While it’s true the information about whether or not the “Cross” affects Vampires given what Trevor says and what Annette does! There is one possibility that hasn’t been ruled out. Consecration! “Vampires are affected by Divine magics!” Annette’s bloodline is tied to a God of iron and forging! So it’s more than likely she Used her Connection to Consecrate the Iron fences and form a Holy Cross that she then used more of! Not unlike how the Whip and Morning Star are literally made from Materials that were blessed! Same with how Hecter revived the Dead Bishop to Sanctify the River to kill off much of Dracula’s Army!
Yaaaaaaaaa, honeatly speaking the netflix series is really not a good adaptation of the series, it doing its own thing isnt nessasarly bad but i just wished people would stop saying its the best video game adaptation cus its not true by definition. Anyway good and informative video, Juste showing up was also a neat moment.
The first 2 seasons of the OG series were the best we've gotten (so far) in terms of adapting the games to a show, IMO. They still had way too much bullshit vampire politics though.
i understand why people are pissed that the story doesnt resemble the games but im ok with it.its an adaptation afterall it doesnt have to be the exact same. its not nescassarily good but i think people are throwing to much hate at this show it really doesnt deserve it
I don't begrudge anyone who likes it, because as you said it's an adaptation. However, it has a lot of wasted potential across the board and I think that's what bothers me the most about it; what it *could* have been. We can only wait and see what the next season holds but my hopes aren't high.
The show is so inconsistent with how they want magic/supernatural/holy things to work. It's like the writers can't decide or flat out don't know. It really feels like some vampire fanfic that they just slapped the Castlevania name onto.
Good comparisons. Richter being from America reminds me of John Morris being from America. Maybe a result of remixing that game into this show? Closest reference to the French Revolution in Castlevania I can think of is the Guillotiner enemy in the DS games.
I had high hopes for it too, what I thought was going to be Atleast a a somewhat faithful adaptation of Curse of Darkness, ended up being something else entirely. Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers haven’t played the games, because it seems like it. Nocturne only confirms my concerns, all the fans wanted is a proper adaptation of Rondo of Blood/Dracula X, but we can’t have that.
@@FilipeAguiarCarvalhoNah, you could just have a guy like Fire Lord Ozai from Avatar the Last Airbender where it takes four seasons to beat him in the first place. It took a lot over four seasons to win and felt well earned. No other villain in the sequel series came close to what Ozai was. And just being a kid or teen show doesn’t mean an R-Rated show couldn’t craft a similar long multi-Season narrative for a big bad.
Season 4 I feel was what really REDEEMED the original series . You had skeletons doing cool stuff and mother fucking DEATH! Both completely in lore . Alucard even got his game look and equipment back and even did the MOVE! Otherwise, the series focused WAAYY too much on vampires and creatures that didn't appear in the series and Carmilla's war on the patriarchy 😅
Despite all the complaints about it not matching... I actually found Nocturne to be a good set-up for the events of Rondo. We just need bathory to end up resurrecting dracula somehow, or being manipulated to do so by the priest, and it could work fine. It's not like rondo really had a story to begin with, so i don't really see any of the changes as detracting from it. The only questionable thing is alucard's introduction WAY before richter gets possessed/cursed, but even That could still make sense if alucard is wounded or otherwise forced to sleep for the 4 years leading up to symphony, and that would kinda set up for alucard going Straight from his coffin into the castle to save richter.
I played alot of Castlevania games because I love playing Games never cared for the lore maybe that is why I really enjoyed the Animated series. Like Dracula and Isaac, Olrox are very enjoyable characters. Never like Sypha or Trevor for the first two seasons at all. Kinda wish we focused more on isaac he was far more interesting and his journey was far more enjoyable than Sypha and Trevor
I believe Abbot (SOtN) and Erzabeth (Bloodlines) will be a major key plots in each future season here. Season 2: The Dark Priest arc. Abbot’s ideals has turned warped has been fully converted as a dark servant of the night as he transforms into the Dark Priest shaft. The price for the new transformation? A virgin’s blood as he makes night creatures attack “Aljiba😂” to distract Richter thus kidnapping Annette & Maria anyways. Richter panics & searches for Juste as they plan a battle plan and a map (cue Rondo of Blood intro scene). He rescued Maria and teamed up to save Annette. After all the struggles getting to the Dark Priest’s dark church, Richter will face the Dark Priest in the end. Richter will face all the famous pop culture night creatures that he summons (Big Bat, Medusa, Mummy, and Frankenstein) & defeats him but his vengeful spirit lingers still as he said “No I won’t end it like this” (like in the Dracula X Chronicles) and performs a destructive magic around the church. Richter senses danger as he tells Maria and Annette to run as Shaft teleports Richter and posses him in the process leading to the future SOTN season. Season 3: Erzabeth arc as she sends night creatures all around the world (Bloodlines stages) to spread her cult’s influence even more as we’ll get to see other Vampire hunters like John Morris and Eric Lecarde separately battling night creatures and vampires from their jurisdictions. Meanwhile Maria is also battling night creatures as she ran in search for Alucard after being rescued saying Richter hasn’t returned from facing Shaft as they hurry on to Erzabeth’s castle but night creatures blocks their path once more. After saving some parts of the world going to the final stage the 4 heroes was led to Erzabeth’s castle. The heroes battles her and defeats her but it’s too late as she summons a hell version of Castlevania to fulfills the final battle in Bloodlines and also sets up via Dracula’s resurrection in… Season 4: Symphony of the Night as John is exhausted after using the fake cursed whip and Eric helps him & him also to return from their hometowns as Maria and Alucard continues their search for the Shaftwashed Richter. Death appears once more to take Alucard’s sword. The succubus’s sister tricks Alucard by warping the events of Lisa’s burning while telling him lies about the cruelty of humanity. Alucard knows it’s not real as he tries to call his sword and stabs the succubus and he’s snaps back to reality. Finally Alucard and Maria found a Richter but he wasn’t himself as they fight him but Maria tells Alucard she senses something behind Richter try to aim your sword there as they vanish Shaft’s ghost but his malice knows no bound as the castle’s was affected by shaft’s desire for blood lust and desire for true power as the castle becomes inverted as if going to hell itself to find the broken soul of Dracula. The castle is a creature of hell and together with shaft’s magic and lingering malice it controls the spirit of Dracula to remember the cruelty of humanity to confront 3 heroes. Idk let’s see how Netflix will save this bloated show but those key points I said with each season should practically save the show without all the bloat inclusion BS and Agenda backstories. Extra: As for Eduardo as he is a Devil which gives a lot of EXP in the games he will give his life happily to Richter in extension of his feelings to Annette this powering up Richter in the Final Stage: Bloodlines
My Theory on how the Cross works in Castlevania Netflix Series is that it only repells those Vampires who actively turn against the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, since God also considers to judge People after death depending on whether they knew him and thus actively rejected him or not knowing him at all and thus not being capable of rejecting him. Ezrebeth has more a Grudge on Re, the Egyptian Sun God, than on the Christian God, so this might explain this "lack" of weakness, That's just my Assumption though.
Não sou um grande conhecedor de Castlevania, mas acho uma pena que essa discussão de ser ou não fiel tenha chegado a adaptação. Pois de um lado eu entendo perfeitamente quem está aberto a mudanças, eu mesmo estou bem tranquilo com isso e até gostei da série, porém eu também entendo quem fique chateado com esse tipo de produção que basicamente diz: "Estamos mudando totalmente a história mas... Ei! Olha aquela referência ao jogo, fique feliz."
Probably an unpopular opinion but I honestly didn't mind nocturn and thought it was a pretty Is okay watch. It has its issue sure but it's not completely terrible like people make it out to be, But that being said I don't think the original lore for the games are bad either they have their charms to them and this comparison shows that. So thanks for being Fair about nocturn and I'm excited to see what season 2 has planned
I honestly am okay if people enjoyed the show. I actually hope it brings more people into the Castlevania fandom and they get into the games. I do wish the show was following the games more though, and I will continue to highlight the contrasts between the two and point out where I think they could've done things better.
The first series, whilst I fully admit there's issues, I still overall enjoy. This one though, this one feels like a far more blatant excuse for the writers and producers to get on a soap box. (also just gonna say, given the names Richter, Olrox, and Shaft, Austria/Germany probably would have made more sense than going with France).
I largely agree, though I wish the original series had ended at S2. Also agree with the setting, but it seems they wanted a revolution setting for the plot they wanted to go with, soooo....here we are.
Once they finish with Nocturne's storyline, which Belmont do you want Netflix's Castlevania to focus on next, Sindra? For me, the next Belmont they follow has to be Simon. There really isn't any other choice, as far as I'm concerned.
@@saldzbob9972 I’m not sure he is alive anymore. Even if he did get brought back at the end of S4, there’s no confirmation that he or Lisa weren’t mortal after that part. Maybe they are, but we don’t know yet.
I enjoyed Nocturne, I can see why people would be disappointed in it thus far. Given that the games don't give a lot of overall character development to the most of the characters. The show was also written into a corner based on how the first series ended. Dracula and Lisa get to live a happy life. So logically, why or how would Dracula come back? What would be the point? Would they just make a character who has all of his powers and abilities and be Dracula in name only? Chaos personified? I also feel like a lot of fans would just like to have a show where every new season is a new Belmont that goes to Castlevania, whips his way through the Castle, and kills Dracula at the end of it. Which would get old pretty quick. That works fine as a game, but not as a narrative focused TV show. I don't get the hate this show gets, and I have been a Castlevania fan for close to 30 years. I made 2 fan films in high school hahaha
I feel like you could probably cut Richter and Maria out of the show and with some minimal shuffling you could make this an original story completely devoid of Castlevania...Which probably isn't a good sign.
*What a great video! I also made some videos about Castlevania games, one of them is Castlevania order of Ecclesia Boss Rush only with Catwoman! Just copy paste that term and you will find it!*
Why expect a "proper" adaptation of Rondo in season 2? It's obvious they are steering clear of hardcore fan expectations and doing their own story. The key to happiness is low expectations. Just enjoy it for what it is. I couldn't for the first series, but I can for this one now with more humbled expectations. It's much more fun when you just go with it. I agree 100% about the music though! Come on! Anyways, great info regarding Drolta lore. I had no idea!
That was the joke. I wanted to poke a bit of fun at them sailing right over any attempt at a faithful adaptation of Rondo and going straight to what we know they all want: more Alucard. 😆
Nocturne is a mess, at best, absolute trash at worst. As a writer and fan of Castlevania lore, I understand the need to change certain aspects when adapting a story to a different medium, like in the beginning of the first Netflix film, aka season 1, or the need to add details, if adapting a story that lacks them, like in the Castlevania Belmont Legacy comics, based on the GB game Adventure. Sadly the Netflix writers have other priorities, other than writing a faithful or satisfactory adaptation of Castlevania lore. I would love to hear your thoughts on a few Castlevania stories I've written. Have you read the Belmontt Legacy comics?
I look upon it on the video castlevania timelines, and like come on, they can make a story on that, just by following the lore, I am at least glad one piece is working out fine, but dmc I'm worried.
Own the individual issues and the TPB of Belmont Legacy, and agree that it's an example of a worthwhile attempt at adapting the game's story to another medium. It's not perfect and takes liberties, but it keeps to the core essence of the games its based off of. Netflixvania/Nocturne always had wonderful potential for growth outward from the core lore, but like you said...it depends on the priorities of the writer.
@@SindraVaniaProjects Cool. Years ago, when those comics were first released, i wrote IDW regarding a sequel for Belmont's Legacy. Some time had passed and no sequel was announced, so I decided to write one myself with the intention of making the proposal for it. What I came up with was a 6 issue mini series. Sadly I never got a reply, maybe they didn't get the message, maybe they thought it was a joke. Interested in reading it? Would appreciate your feedback.
There hasn't been a New Castlevania game in 10 years. So I don't know why people are complaining so bad about them changing the story. Honestly if it was closer to a one to one it would be boring no one wants to see Dracula come back again but you old school fans most part lines in the games are pretty much the same. It's inspired I'm pretty sure they already said that not a one-to-one in the game plots are not complicated enough to make a series the same with true about the original Castlevania
@@oratank you underestimate general audience not wanting to see the same plot repeated over and over again. That's not how you write a successful show. Plus they said long ago that is based on the video games but it's not tied to the story of the video games at all. It wouldn't even make sense with the story they had from the first series.
@@usuario_cualquiera2522 well I would say 12 old could have done better than these people. Yeh it was a game it didn't have solid story sometimes . But the writers had plenty to expand upon either they shit all over it or just doesn't care about it at all. Same with the historical and mythological elements they borrow. They are not insulting just castlevania and its protagonists family but also the historical and mythological stories as well. You cross a line when u both shit on and mess up someones favorite game then adapt his favorite historical event which is worse than a fking fan fic
I'm getting the feeling that this story takes place sliiiiiightly before Rondo of Blood honestly. They did jump the gun a bit on Alucard's appearance too. I'm interested in season 2!
I was thinking they were just doing a pre-Rondo season too, but then Alucard shows up and it's like like "Welp, guess a proper Rondo story is unlikely now. Okay." We'll see what they do with it I guess.
@@SindraVaniaProjects I wonder if there will be a romance storyline between Maria and Alucard. Or if they'll go the sibling ribbing relationship route. She's presently KO. So, she's not met Alucard yet either. SotN didn't have Alu and Ric meet until their arena fight, and only after Maria warned him too. So many story routes now, keeping us on our toes! Great video btw!
@@KitsunegHe met Maria inside the Clocktower. She gives the line “ You are human, aren’t you? “ when she sees him. IMO, the ambiguity from the games and the radio drama was fine. There’s never any sex shown involving them in games or related materials. If they are the root of the Lecardes, you don’t need anything to show how that happened. JMO
I don't mind what they're doing here, I had my fair share of issues with the previous show (Hector and Isaac's storyline never merging with the main one and feeling really unfinished and sometimes very fillery, Saint Germain's motivation to resurrect Dracula, how static was season two as the season that should've set up the final Dracula fight, Season 3 alucard storyline being completely useless, i could probably go on if i think about this more) but at this point I accept that Castlevania Netflix is its own thing entirely, and from a narrative standpoint i understand why they're not just sticking with Dracula as the main antagonist, it would become very formulaic very quickly as a tv show while for games it works because well, they're games. There are some things here that I actually like even more in comparison to the game, Annette is a much more interesting character, but it's kinda unfair seeing how the original one didn't exactly have a defined personality, the setting is AMAZING and I love how moody it is, I really wish there was a game that actually took place in France like this. I just hope Elizabeth will be a cool villain cause so far she's not even close to being as cool as Dracula was in the original show. And in general, hopefully this time they'll stick with a single storyline to keep the story simple and fast. Now, greatest videogame adaptation? I don't think so because it's not "adapting" anything, but it's a good show that works as something inspired by the games and that still bring these beloved characters on screen, but ultimately does its own thing.
Elizabeth has indeed been a pretty generic villain so far, compared to Dracula or even Carmilla, which is unfortunate. There's a lot of potential there but they seem to like throwing around tropes in S1 and she definitely got hit.
A lot of people don't like this Castlevania I do cuz Victor is my favorite Belmont even though they made him look like a punk but he's redeeming his self
We all have. The thing is those of us who're longtime fans of the game that are criticizing Nocturne might not be doing so quite as much if we actually had a proper new console-release Castlevania title release in the last decade to keep us occupied. 😒
Rondo of blood castlevania. Richter is man with conviction,without mental burden. Nocturne Richter is person with mental problem,trauma and depression. Anette rondo of blood Beautiful,but helpless noblewomen,richter fiancee. Being helpless is not all bad thing if driving story advance. Not all women must fight in battle. That is fine. Anette nocturne. They turn it into black anime women fighter protagonist. I don't have a beef with black women fighter protagonists. I have a peoblem with this women being anette,richter fiancee. 😂
Facts. I would like the old Annette rather than the new black one. The old could be a support emotionally to Richter. While the black one... You if you watch it...
Inclusivity bullshitery is the main problem. My ethnic has been abused by white power,our resources being drainef,our people displaced. Yet i could enjoy original rondo if the blood and symphony of the night,without turning the already establshed character black🤣. Let me tell you,that is called pandering. Why the wtiter and ptoducer not making their original brand of story Richter and Anette will marry,and if it is consistent with the lore,their grandson will be julius belmont. And julius is far from being black. So ,what kind of fuckuppery netflix writer will present in the future?
Season 1 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/BHZq7iCUA7o/v-deo.html Season 2 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/hiB-g4PBM4w/v-deo.html Season 3 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/DsOweu8h_hg/v-deo.html Season 4 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/d-PSqZLhzF8/v-deo.html
oof, the comments here are really overrun by reactionaries... The beginning of nocturne honestly felt really weirldy paced, as it only gets really good towards juste. But fuck I love how they replace our funny skeleton enemies, with the other amazing aspect of castlevania, monsters and lore from all kinds of cultures. Fuck yeah too ancestor magic!
This season really did double down on what the 3-4 seasons did. First there’s all the race washing. Drolta or whatever is actually black there are black characters. So why? And all the weird haircuts and sexuality fest. Inclusivity stuff. If it’s an inanimate object or enemy then you can make them whatever you want because you are personifying something carmilla for example was just a floating head so do it to the characters like that if anything.
I believe she was a person in non-canon games : Circle of the Moon and Judgement. She’s a naked ghost on a skull in Rondo of Blood and she’s a secret boss in that game too.
@@mrthanos8140 Right Lords of Shadow and Lords of Shadow 2. The first one was an interesting alternate timeline, Mirror of Fate was okay, and LOS2 was a bit disappointing to me anyways
Idk man I kinda like that the series is very different from the games. The games have cool lore yeah but it was a gameplay first series and I don't think the show would be better if it was a direct adaptation.
Absolutely a fair viewpoint to have even though I think differently. If you enjoy Nocturne for what it is, that's great. I do think it could have been done better all-around and include more game-accurate lore, but that's of course just one opinion.
Yeah, I get that, but for what it's worth, I think that some of the game lore we did get was really well implemented and was even played with in really cool ways. Like the setting and villain of bloodlines is probably the most obvious one since we're probably not gonna get a bloodlines adaptation it's nice that they put that here. My favorite one, though, was how Juste's story is heavily implied to be the bad ending of HoD where both his friends end up dead. I think the references we did get were nice, but I can also see how some people could be rubbed the wrong way by it.
Hence that show should be simply labeled Nocturne as It's only Inspired(Appropriated) by the game and is Used by the wokes since it has a lot of their MO already. And like with the XBOX game pass it was made to pad things and waste your time intentionally ending with a cliffhanger to get more money out of the viewers or am I just being negative once more and they will correct course in season 2 whenever that appears?
@@kingj9664 I believe your the one crying as I don't believe I'm fuming in my previus post but just stating my opinion. If they make something port of an IP then they should be prepared to at least base most to it's lore as fans are bound to comapre things whn it is linked to their beloveded IP. I believe this would have been the same reaction if Akira Toriyama Name Dragon Ball to Journey to the West Dragon Ball instead. If you do not get that example. Then I'm simply saying that of most is not based on an IP simply say it was inspired from it JUst like how the Saiyuki anime is mostly inspired by JttW with the 4 main Chars The Monk doing monk things like prayers and such Goku's Head Band limiti and conrtroling his power and the 4's goal being the same with their very own anime twist just like the Robin Hood Men in Tight's cpmedic twist in the aged story. I prefer Dragon Ball than Saiyuki orJourney to the West mind you and don't really look at the source to understand DB/DBZ and it's other variations.
@@kingj9664 If so then just state your opnion and don't be confrontational. And if you are not a true fan of the IP and did not look deep on it's lores and or played all the game then don't coe off as a know it all to ACTUAL fan which of course I am not but with all they comparison videos I watched and how Nocture has a lot of WOKE MOs like race swapping, bias treatment to once char while undermining another (usually male) I'll have to side with the fans have you done as much? Watched a playthrough of the orginal game that is about an hour?
@@CVicMagpantay Yeah I've lost the same amount of videos as you do on castlevania lore, Plus besides from the most part I've seen some people including fans of this castlevania series have mixed feelings about it honestly I don't think it's the best we were making it out to be. It was like people should be getting used to race swaps .hopefully next season will be better
You must be new to the games then if you think there's too little story in them to make a show. Take a look around my channel and you'll see there's a fair amount.
@@SindraVaniaProjects Unfortunately the "games had no story" meme has spread amongst the Netflix series fans and is the mane defense for the series not following the games lore.
One thing I find frustrating is that Castlevania has a lot of potential as a tv series with stories that have a lot of room for creative freedom while also having a lot of lore to create a good structure. And the original series did this pretty well, even if people weren’t huge on some of the changes, they don’t break it as an adaptation. However it looks like this series just goes it’s own way completely, where it’s not really an adaptation anymore. I haven’t seen it, but that’s the vibe I get from it.
Your vibe is pretty accurate honestly.
The stories do have a lot of room for created freedom that's exactly what they're doing. Most general audiences wouldn't like to see another story of Dracula doing the same thing he did in season 1 and 2 which is sadly the same plot for most Castlevania games. Plus the original most of the story there was brand new anyways (from seasons 2 to 4)
Also Dracula is a different character in Netflix Castlevania He's alive and happy with his wife so it wouldn't really make sense.
I have to admit, removing Richter's holy power in favor of Speaker Magic, as well as making Maria's mother another Speaker mage, rather than a someone who's blessed with holy protection, but bound by a code of nonviolence, is... kind of disappointing. I'm aware the showrunners seem to have something of a "church bad" vibe going, but it makes the world feel more shallow, and the worldbuilding more hollow, if the only way to fight vampires is with magic or _other_ gods' powers, but the traditional western spiritual methods don't work.
Until and unless the showrunners decide that they do, that is. _[looks at Annette.]_
Holy water still works
Which is funny because in Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night, you have Shaft, a Priest who is actually on Dracula’s Side?!
@@cklambo True, but that was one instance in Season One, which was done under the influence of Warren Ellis, whereas the more recent stuff - and Nocturne especially - was not. And I’m not inclined to believe that they’re interested in exploring the Christian side of things, like how significant of an affect it can have, where the series is involved.
I personally like it
Thank u
@@kingj9664 you're welcome
Yeah No Castle, No Dracula... I was waiting for Rondo of Blood but maybe my problem is to expect the games in the series :( (good improvement on the art)
So for those who might be curious. In LOTS of information about Maria they say she's Annette's little sister. This was a translation error. In the game when they meet, because in 'Japanese' culture children address their elders who are not family with titles like Big Brother or Big Sister, Maria addresses Annette in this manner. When it was translated people assumed Maria was saying this because 'they' were blood related and others ran with it. Eventually making that the canon, but what Sindra said is legit. OG Maria is a distant member of the BELMONT clan.
Another thing that doesn't get covered is that in Lament of Innocence Mathias becomes a vampire in a method other than biting. If one looks at turning another against their will into a vampire as sacrilege against God hence the issue with crosses. It would suggest that those who are unaffected found ways to become a vampire of their own will. Which well do as you want.
Also Hey Sindra, as for why we can't see the castle. Maybe we should blame Ellis. As the prior series has Dracula come back WITH LISA, he's got no reason to still have his rage boner. Its possible that the castle exists somewhere else and he's living on his own. Which always bothering me, besides making the first series a poor man SoTN in now invalidates a lot of future conflicts cuz it gave Dracula back the one thing he wanted. Lisa.
I hate that they made lisa come back with dracula
It makes no sense
Why was she in hell? What's gonna be next for dracula if the reason for him being evil is gone?
And i really don't see richter's ending arc without dracula and the netflix version of symphonie of the night either.
If he needs to come back one time it's in this serie.
It makes no sense why Lisa would ever be in Hell, Dracula is in Hell, which separates him from Elisabetha and Lisa. His Castle is a living monster from Hell itself, or rather, it went to Hell and became alive like the Starship Event Horizon.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Well sadly it 'does' make sense. because Lisa sinned by wedding a 'monster', Dracula. Modern Christianity softens God a LOT as they focus more heavily on New Testament perceptions. But OG God would readily condemn to hell for being with a monster. The og stories of Cain is that when he was banished from the Garden of Eden he found Lilith (Adams' first wife) and married her thus monsters allowing Lilith to have the demons that plague the world. It just doesn't make sense for ELLIS to use this angle when he was writing for Marvel and was HEAVILY writing British Forklore into his run of Excalibur.
@@LadyLunarPhoenix No, it doesn’t make sense given the Laws given to Moses in the Old Testament either. If the wife is not involved in Adultery, not involved in murder, not involved in blasphemy, etc. she does not share her husband’s guilt. That is the Levitical Law. It goes farther in the games being borrowed from the 1992 Dracula film starring Gary Oldman, where the Count Dracula played by Gary Oldman is eternally cut off from his wife Elisabetha and whatever “reincarnations” he sees of her by the very Hell he went to for his blasphemy against God. The film, Bram Stoker’s Dracula starring Gary Oldman is a recommended film by myself for whomever has not seen it, because it tries to follow the novel with some liberties such as Count Dracula and Vlad the Impaler being confirmed as the same person, when the novel does not say as much. But part of the eternal anguish of Dracula in Castlevania games is the fact that he is cut off from Lisa, Elisabetha, and Adrian by Hell itself. Also, Dracula’s plot gets even sicker in Curse of Darknesss because it was to take over his Devil Forgemasters’ bodies to bring himself back to life.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes except she was practicing medicine, which got women (And men) burned at the stake or drowned. Like in distant villages women still practiced herbal meds cuz they were basically midwives. But what started in the city was the fear that women were using witch craft. Kinda 'if a woman is using herbs or such to do 'something' its witchcraft kill them' 'if men are using herbs or such to do 'something' its alchemy kill them' to 'Modern science says this tracks you guys suck'.
Is what I WANTED to type.... Then I remembered something.
We're talking the final season right? The season where Ellis got fired for sexual misconduct against women right? So it tracks given his personality that he would put an innocent woman in hell because he hurt innocent women and lost his job for it....
Gods damn it Ellis.... Its not story, its him being a dick one last time.
As a lifelong fan of the Castlevania series, I can enjoy the animated series for what it is, a story using characters inspired by the games as opposed to a proper adaptation of them. I just treat it as a separate continuity, the same as the Lords of Shadow games, and it makes it a lot more tolerable from the fanboy side of me. Do I still want a proper Castlevania adaptation? Absolutely! It's unfortunate that there isn't more crossover between the Castlevania fanbase and the indie animation community as I'm sure they'd do the games justice.
As for the Netflix series, I think their biggest problem has been in calling them 'adaptations' when they're clearly new stories using characters 'inspired' by the games. Doing so set up certain expectations from the fans and it's totally understandable that fans of the games feel unsatisfied with the direction they went. Though with that said, anyone going into Nocturne with any expectation of a straight adaptation of Rondo of Blood after seeing the first Netflix Castlevania series are only fooling themselves at this point.
The Annette race swap didn't really bother me as much as I know it does other dedicated Castlevania fans. That may be in good part due to my "this is a separate continuity to the games" attitude, but also because Annette was such a non-entity in the one game she was in. Sure, it was a little jarring at first, but I was still interested to see what direction they'd take her. Could they have expanded her character without changing her entire background and ethnicity? Of course, but even in doing so she's still a fair bit better than the generic damsel in distress/love interest role she originally filled. Granted, expanding Annette and making her more interesting is a pretty low bar and they could have done just about anything to clear it.
Personally, with Simon's Quest being my first Castlevania, I was a little salty at first that they completely skipped over Simon's story. After I got over those initial feelings though, I could understand why they would. The Netflix series is very character driven in its storytelling, and they would need to create mostly completely original characters to fill out the cast for a series covering the time period of Castlevania and Simon's Quest or otherwise use an entirely different storytelling style. Maybe something more along the lines of Samurai Jack, which is the only series that immediately comes to mind that has a single, consistent central protagonist. However, I'm not entirely sure the Netflix Castlevania writers would be able to pull that off, so it's probably for the best that they skipped over him. A brief mention or nod to him would have been cool though, in the same vein as the portrait of Leon in the first series was.
I have a loose idea of what a Simon Belmont arc would look like over the course of CV1 and Simon's Quest. Granted, wouldn't be the 8-10 episodes per season like Netflix has now, but more like....four or five 20-minutes episodes with two seasons to cover both games. This keeps it open for all game-related story to be included but also for little quite moments or character building without needing to pad out a whole half-hour episode.
Netflix likely requires whole half-hour episodes and also a minimum episodes per for them to greenlight each season, which is where a lot of the need for filler comes in. The downside to needing to play by a streaming service's rules.
I don't agree with you, if White Washing was, and is, racist (Christopher Lee as Fu Manchu, John Wayne as Genghis Khan, Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra, etc... ).
Blackwashing is equally important and should not be encouraged or supported.
There is much more than double standards, anti-White racism, and denials of our historical history and culture.
If it's not good one way, it's not good the other either.
(Or we would 100% do it, I would love to see the reaction of the ideologues of this Black Washing movement, if we did the same thing with Blade, Black Panther, or with Axel Foley the Beverly Hill cop. just to denounce their hypocrisy).
Annette is such a drastic change from the source that they should’ve just made a different character altogether.
The Netflix series feels like a fanfic.
It pretty much is. I miss Dracula
a bad one with the things we arent allowed to talk unless they scream wolf./
Of course it’s Fanfiction! Who do you think this Game was Made by and made for?! 😂.
And I love that fact!
it's a "fan"fic except the "fans" aren't fans for hating the original source.
a bad one , a VERY bad one fanfic.
Not just that the crosses didn’t function as just a shape. They literally burned LeBlanc ( forgive me if I misspelled) by him touching them. I’m not sure even internally with the stories how it works. The best explanation I can think of in the games is someone channels energy through the cross or it’s nothing.
The detail of the sun is something that bothered me and in which the animation team was entirely to blame since it is clear that both Olrox and Drolta walk in the shadow avoiding it but at the time of animating it they did not know how to handle the scenes, i.e., they could have added a slight steam radiating from their bodies as happened to Vaublanc seconds before the sun touched him directly.
And about Richter hitting them with his almost naked fists... it doesn't seem to me something problematic taking into account that Richter has always had that approach to martial arts at the same time that it is clear that his magic at that moment is over 9000 and that as connoisseurs of the games it can be very strange for us that he is not using the whip, the main weapon of always, to eliminate them.
The cross was also inconsistent. The part that works in the games is that the Belmonts can channel Holy powers through the cross, the water, and so on. That’s mostly special to the Belmonts, who are inspired by the Dracula character Van Helsing. There are others who use Holy Relics like Alucard, but his use isn’t as fine tuned as Richter, as Alucard can only use a super powerful ability similar to Grand Cross, but Alucard cannot scale down the power of his cross wielding like Richter can. Also the other holy relics, while useable by Alucard, aren’t usable for a super powerful method like Hydro Storm.
At least the Blade movies explained it by Vampires having protective suits or super sunscreen on, or the fact that Drake didn’t have the Sun problem in the first place
The series after season 2 just feels like fanfic,it even has a bunch of OCs that add nothing to the plot.dissapointed but not surprised.
P.s:Look how they massacred my boy.(Hector)
Poor Hector really was kind of the whipping boy of the OG series.
They basically cut the most iconic intro carriage fight, yeah I know he fight death in the game and he suppose to be dead in the animated series timeline but they should just replace death with a bunch of vampires attacking his carriage while raining. 😑
Both Netflix series are like a weird alternate universe retelling of Castlevania as we know it.
Bingo, which is fine.....but will always get compared to what could be by those of us wanting something closer to the main games.
@@SindraVaniaProjects I freely admit I had much higher hopes for it when it first started. Once it settled in, though, I just wished we had more music and monsters from the games. Then season 3 happened, and at that point, I gave up. I did continue to watch just to see what happened, and there were some neat moments. But yeah, I understand completely about wanting a much closer adaptation of the games.
So like Lords of Shadow then?
@@BradLad56 that's an alternate universe I never want to revisit.
@@dire51 wow you disliked it that much?
I gave up on the first series and this one. Not sure why we can't have a Belmont vs Dracula series. Don't know why forge masters are supposed to be interesting or why every character needs a tearful backstory.
I'm okay with fleshing out characters from the games and giving them more backstory that may not have been present in the games...but "everyone has trauma as their main motivation" gets a bit old when you apply it to everyone in your main cast.
It's horror. Everyone gets trauma eventually, or you're not doing it right.
And let us give them points for yet another religious leader being secretly corrupt. Not. Dull. At all.@@SindraVaniaProjects
I’m with you. I checked out of the original series after the character assassination of Hector. That was the worst thing for me.
@@bobmcgilicutty Gotta stay consistent with the OG series I guess. 😕
The problem with netflix is they're trying to replace half of the characters a black person and constantly put sex scenes in the plot. Yo. This is not about black people being enslaved. It's about killing vampire. Another failed series imho.
So the series "failed" because black people? What is bro yapping about?
Thank You Once Again. I’ve been pretty busy. That being said, it’s odd that they have Maria the appearance and outfit of when she was 12 years old in Dracula X Chronicles but the series gives Maria as essentially at her Symphony age already. I understand why they wouldn’t want to give us a 12 year old character in their animation. But still, there’s an association of young Maria in that outfit.
Thanks once again
Agreed about Maria's outfit choice when they aged her up to 16 from 12 for the show. I'm wondering if they'll switch to SotN outfit for S2 or make something new in the meantime.
That’s just creepy. Whether or not it’s intentional. I know she doesn’t do anything with anyone, but still, that’s meant to be her 12 year old self
@@KaosNova2 I had a feeling they were going to age her up based on the initial trailers...I just didn't realize it was going to be to 16. Its one of the more questionable decisions they made from a non-lore standpoint.
@@SindraVaniaProjects The Season 2 Preview shows her and Alucard sitting and talking with the same outfit but to be fair that could be not long after Season One ended. She might still change into the Green but time will tell. Besides, I’m going to use my month trial on One Piece and Arcane too.
At the end, I will agree that the pink outfit is associated with her being young. The Green associated with her being grown up
@@SindraVaniaProjects
Eh, I’m fine with it, cause truthfully I’m I don’t care about aging up a character unless it’s really Questionable and has some disturbing implications!
Cause even in Symphony of the Night, she Did NOT Look 17, she looked like a youthful 19 or 20 years old.
Man, I'd love to have been able to write a version that was closer to the lore. I'd leave the events in-game up to the player, and instead focus on the story leading up to the game. Maybe stuff from during the games' events would be told from other characters' perspectives (like the villains or NPCs).
I'd try to stay faithful to the characters and simply expand on what's there. I understand the risk of being so nebbish about accuracy that one forgets to tell an entertaining or engaging story but I'm pretty sure I could turn out something show-worthy. Satisfying the purists as well as casual viewers would be a challenge I'd love to take up.
What about you, Sindra? You satisfied with what they gave us or what would you have wanted?
That was the idea it the animated movie trilogy that was canceled with Igarashi as producer and Warren Ellis as the Director. Iga and Ellis couldn’t reach an agreement on the product while Iga was in charge of Castlevania, so it didn’t happen
Thanks for the analysis, I like seeing what they pulled from the game and what stuff is new. I like how they tied in the west African/Haitian magic and spirituality to vampire hunting lore
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah I like that too
That's what I'm expecting, full Castlevania game story ..
But this Netflix's series are ok for me ..
I've never been shy about my opinion of the Netflix Castlevania series even when posting on the forums.
I was deeply disappointed in the first cartoon to the point that I have no interest in ever going back to finish watching the last season.
The trailers for this new series were marginally intriguing, but ultimately only served to reinforce my distaste for the direction taken with this show that is Castlevania in name only.
Watching this video reinforced my disdain towards the show runners & writers of this tripe.
So a hearty thanks to you, Sindra.
Now I know not to waste my time.
~Inccubus
I don't want to come off like an asshole when comparing the shows to the games, but particularly with Nocturne it's clear the showrunners had different priorities than telling a story based solely in the game's lore and I wish they hadn't used Castlevania as a prop to achieve that this first season. Maybe that will change in season 2.
8:32 I would like to point out something interesting to note! While it’s true the information about whether or not the “Cross” affects Vampires given what Trevor says and what Annette does! There is one possibility that hasn’t been ruled out. Consecration!
“Vampires are affected by Divine magics!”
Annette’s bloodline is tied to a God of iron and forging! So it’s more than likely she Used her Connection to Consecrate the Iron fences and form a Holy Cross that she then used more of!
Not unlike how the Whip and Morning Star are literally made from Materials that were blessed! Same with how Hecter revived the Dead Bishop to Sanctify the River to kill off much of Dracula’s Army!
Ah, this makes a lot of sense, thanks for sharing! This might be exactly what the writers intended
Yaaaaaaaaa, honeatly speaking the netflix series is really not a good adaptation of the series, it doing its own thing isnt nessasarly bad but i just wished people would stop saying its the best video game adaptation cus its not true by definition.
Anyway good and informative video, Juste showing up was also a neat moment.
If that’s the case then Sonic and Mario brothers followed the games they came from in their own TV series.
First two seasons were pretty damn good
Thanks for watching! Juste showing up was one of the few FUCK YEAH moments I had.
The first 2 seasons of the OG series were the best we've gotten (so far) in terms of adapting the games to a show, IMO. They still had way too much bullshit vampire politics though.
"I wish people stopped having their own opinions"
i understand why people are pissed that the story doesnt resemble the games
but im ok with it.its an adaptation afterall it doesnt have to be the exact same.
its not nescassarily good but i think people are throwing to much hate at this show it really doesnt deserve it
I don't begrudge anyone who likes it, because as you said it's an adaptation. However, it has a lot of wasted potential across the board and I think that's what bothers me the most about it; what it *could* have been. We can only wait and see what the next season holds but my hopes aren't high.
The show is so inconsistent with how they want magic/supernatural/holy things to work. It's like the writers can't decide or flat out don't know. It really feels like some vampire fanfic that they just slapped the Castlevania name onto.
^ THIS!
Akumajo Dracula, but without Akumajo and without Dracula
Pretty much!
Yes I like your channel
Thank you!
@@SindraVaniaProjects you are very welcome
Good comparisons. Richter being from America reminds me of John Morris being from America. Maybe a result of remixing that game into this show? Closest reference to the French Revolution in Castlevania I can think of is the Guillotiner enemy in the DS games.
Richter being from America...except English accent. Tracks with the other inconsistencies in the show.
@@SindraVaniaProjects Lol. I figure, English accent = speaking French in this show.
Richter went to america is fight vampires. He is not from America. It was not shown how long he lived there.
Ah yes, very true.@@cklambo
Rondo of Blood is set during the french revolution
Season 4's ending was the first nail. Nocturne hammered in all the other nails. This series ain't Castlevania anymore
I had high hopes for it too, what I thought was going to be Atleast a a somewhat faithful adaptation of Curse of Darkness, ended up being something else entirely. Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers haven’t played the games, because it seems like it.
Nocturne only confirms my concerns, all the fans wanted is a proper adaptation of Rondo of Blood/Dracula X, but we can’t have that.
Thank God for that. No one would watch a series where the main villain resurrects every season and the protagonists have no depth.
@@h4h4boi4
Just think that Netflixvania's have their own Castlevania Universe, don't expect them to be Loyal to the Games Story.
@@FilipeAguiarCarvalhoNah, you could just have a guy like Fire Lord Ozai from Avatar the Last Airbender where it takes four seasons to beat him in the first place. It took a lot over four seasons to win and felt well earned. No other villain in the sequel series came close to what Ozai was. And just being a kid or teen show doesn’t mean an R-Rated show couldn’t craft a similar long multi-Season narrative for a big bad.
Season 4 I feel was what really REDEEMED the original series . You had skeletons doing cool stuff and mother fucking DEATH! Both completely in lore . Alucard even got his game look and equipment back and even did the MOVE!
Otherwise, the series focused WAAYY too much on vampires and creatures that didn't appear in the series and Carmilla's war on the patriarchy 😅
This is a great video.
Thank you!
They shouldn't have wrote out Dracula as the main antagonist.
Clive Bradley’s writing needs to improve cause…I’m not feeling it
Despite all the complaints about it not matching... I actually found Nocturne to be a good set-up for the events of Rondo. We just need bathory to end up resurrecting dracula somehow, or being manipulated to do so by the priest, and it could work fine. It's not like rondo really had a story to begin with, so i don't really see any of the changes as detracting from it.
The only questionable thing is alucard's introduction WAY before richter gets possessed/cursed, but even That could still make sense if alucard is wounded or otherwise forced to sleep for the 4 years leading up to symphony, and that would kinda set up for alucard going Straight from his coffin into the castle to save richter.
I played alot of Castlevania games because I love playing Games never cared for the lore maybe that is why I really enjoyed the Animated series. Like Dracula and Isaac, Olrox are very enjoyable characters. Never like Sypha or Trevor for the first two seasons at all. Kinda wish we focused more on isaac he was far more interesting and his journey was far more enjoyable than Sypha and Trevor
I believe Abbot (SOtN) and Erzabeth (Bloodlines) will be a major key plots in each future season here.
Season 2: The Dark Priest arc. Abbot’s ideals has turned warped has been fully converted as a dark servant of the night as he transforms into the Dark Priest shaft. The price for the new transformation? A virgin’s blood as he makes night creatures attack “Aljiba😂” to distract Richter thus kidnapping Annette & Maria anyways. Richter panics & searches for Juste as they plan a battle plan and a map (cue Rondo of Blood intro scene). He rescued Maria and teamed up to save Annette. After all the struggles getting to the Dark Priest’s dark church, Richter will face the Dark Priest in the end. Richter will face all the famous pop culture night creatures that he summons (Big Bat, Medusa, Mummy, and Frankenstein) & defeats him but his vengeful spirit lingers still as he said “No I won’t end it like this” (like in the Dracula X Chronicles) and performs a destructive magic around the church. Richter senses danger as he tells Maria and Annette to run as Shaft teleports Richter and posses him in the process leading to the future SOTN season.
Season 3: Erzabeth arc as she sends night creatures all around the world (Bloodlines stages) to spread her cult’s influence even more as we’ll get to see other Vampire hunters like John Morris and Eric Lecarde separately battling night creatures and vampires from their jurisdictions. Meanwhile Maria is also battling night creatures as she ran in search for Alucard after being rescued saying Richter hasn’t returned from facing Shaft as they hurry on to Erzabeth’s castle but night creatures blocks their path once more. After saving some parts of the world going to the final stage the 4 heroes was led to Erzabeth’s castle. The heroes battles her and defeats her but it’s too late as she summons a hell version of Castlevania to fulfills the final battle in Bloodlines and also sets up via Dracula’s resurrection in…
Season 4: Symphony of the Night as John is exhausted after using the fake cursed whip and Eric helps him & him also to return from their hometowns as Maria and Alucard continues their search for the Shaftwashed Richter. Death appears once more to take Alucard’s sword. The succubus’s sister tricks Alucard by warping the events of Lisa’s burning while telling him lies about the cruelty of humanity. Alucard knows it’s not real as he tries to call his sword and stabs the succubus and he’s snaps back to reality. Finally Alucard and Maria found a Richter but he wasn’t himself as they fight him but Maria tells Alucard she senses something behind Richter try to aim your sword there as they vanish Shaft’s ghost but his malice knows no bound as the castle’s was affected by shaft’s desire for blood lust and desire for true power as the castle becomes inverted as if going to hell itself to find the broken soul of Dracula. The castle is a creature of hell and together with shaft’s magic and lingering malice it controls the spirit of Dracula to remember the cruelty of humanity to confront 3 heroes.
Idk let’s see how Netflix will save this bloated show but those key points I said with each season should practically save the show without all the bloat inclusion BS and Agenda backstories.
Extra: As for Eduardo as he is a Devil which gives a lot of EXP in the games he will give his life happily to Richter in extension of his feelings to Annette this powering up Richter in the Final Stage: Bloodlines
Agenda backstories?
My Theory on how the Cross works in Castlevania Netflix Series is that it only repells those Vampires who actively turn against the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, since God also considers to judge People after death depending on whether they knew him and thus actively rejected him or not knowing him at all and thus not being capable of rejecting him.
Ezrebeth has more a Grudge on Re, the Egyptian Sun God, than on the Christian God, so this might explain this "lack" of weakness, That's just my Assumption though.
Não sou um grande conhecedor de Castlevania, mas acho uma pena que essa discussão de ser ou não fiel tenha chegado a adaptação. Pois de um lado eu entendo perfeitamente quem está aberto a mudanças, eu mesmo estou bem tranquilo com isso e até gostei da série, porém eu também entendo quem fique chateado com esse tipo de produção que basicamente diz: "Estamos mudando totalmente a história mas... Ei! Olha aquela referência ao jogo, fique feliz."
I will answer the question right away!!!! Aaaaaaaabsolutely nothing!!!! There!!! Done!!!!
Probably an unpopular opinion but I honestly didn't mind nocturn and thought it was a pretty Is okay watch. It has its issue sure but it's not completely terrible like people make it out to be, But that being said I don't think the original lore for the games are bad either they have their charms to them and this comparison shows that. So thanks for being Fair about nocturn and I'm excited to see what season 2 has planned
I honestly am okay if people enjoyed the show. I actually hope it brings more people into the Castlevania fandom and they get into the games. I do wish the show was following the games more though, and I will continue to highlight the contrasts between the two and point out where I think they could've done things better.
@@SindraVaniaProjects Really appreciate the reply and I've been enjoying your channel a lot
@@kingj9664 Thanks for saying so! I appreciate it tremendously.
The first series, whilst I fully admit there's issues, I still overall enjoy. This one though, this one feels like a far more blatant excuse for the writers and producers to get on a soap box. (also just gonna say, given the names Richter, Olrox, and Shaft, Austria/Germany probably would have made more sense than going with France).
I largely agree, though I wish the original series had ended at S2. Also agree with the setting, but it seems they wanted a revolution setting for the plot they wanted to go with, soooo....here we are.
Rondo of Blood takes place during the french revolution, so the setting makes sense.
Once they finish with Nocturne's storyline, which Belmont do you want Netflix's Castlevania to focus on next, Sindra? For me, the next Belmont they follow has to be Simon. There really isn't any other choice, as far as I'm concerned.
I think they've decided to skip Simon altogether. They might just move onto Aria of Sorrow.
@@SindraVaniaProjectshow? Dracula's still alive
@@saldzbob9972 I’m not sure he is alive anymore. Even if he did get brought back at the end of S4, there’s no confirmation that he or Lisa weren’t mortal after that part. Maybe they are, but we don’t know yet.
I enjoyed Nocturne, I can see why people would be disappointed in it thus far. Given that the games don't give a lot of overall character development to the most of the characters. The show was also written into a corner based on how the first series ended. Dracula and Lisa get to live a happy life. So logically, why or how would Dracula come back? What would be the point? Would they just make a character who has all of his powers and abilities and be Dracula in name only? Chaos personified? I also feel like a lot of fans would just like to have a show where every new season is a new Belmont that goes to Castlevania, whips his way through the Castle, and kills Dracula at the end of it. Which would get old pretty quick. That works fine as a game, but not as a narrative focused TV show. I don't get the hate this show gets, and I have been a Castlevania fan for close to 30 years. I made 2 fan films in high school hahaha
I feel like you could probably cut Richter and Maria out of the show and with some minimal shuffling you could make this an original story completely devoid of Castlevania...Which probably isn't a good sign.
*What a great video! I also made some videos about Castlevania games, one of them is Castlevania order of Ecclesia Boss Rush only with Catwoman! Just copy paste that term and you will find it!*
Why expect a "proper" adaptation of Rondo in season 2? It's obvious they are steering clear of hardcore fan expectations and doing their own story. The key to happiness is low expectations. Just enjoy it for what it is. I couldn't for the first series, but I can for this one now with more humbled expectations. It's much more fun when you just go with it. I agree 100% about the music though! Come on!
Anyways, great info regarding Drolta lore. I had no idea!
That was the joke. I wanted to poke a bit of fun at them sailing right over any attempt at a faithful adaptation of Rondo and going straight to what we know they all want: more Alucard. 😆
Nocturne is a mess, at best, absolute trash at worst. As a writer and fan of Castlevania lore, I understand the need to change certain aspects when adapting a story to a different medium, like in the beginning of the first Netflix film, aka season 1, or the need to add details, if adapting a story that lacks them, like in the Castlevania Belmont Legacy comics, based on the GB game Adventure. Sadly the Netflix writers have other priorities, other than writing a faithful or satisfactory adaptation of Castlevania lore. I would love to hear your thoughts on a few Castlevania stories I've written. Have you read the Belmontt Legacy comics?
I look upon it on the video castlevania timelines, and like come on, they can make a story on that, just by following the lore, I am at least glad one piece is working out fine, but dmc I'm worried.
Own the individual issues and the TPB of Belmont Legacy, and agree that it's an example of a worthwhile attempt at adapting the game's story to another medium. It's not perfect and takes liberties, but it keeps to the core essence of the games its based off of. Netflixvania/Nocturne always had wonderful potential for growth outward from the core lore, but like you said...it depends on the priorities of the writer.
@@SindraVaniaProjects Cool. Years ago, when those comics were first released, i wrote IDW regarding a sequel for Belmont's Legacy. Some time had passed and no sequel was announced, so I decided to write one myself with the intention of making the proposal for it. What I came up with was a 6 issue mini series. Sadly I never got a reply, maybe they didn't get the message, maybe they thought it was a joke. Interested in reading it? Would appreciate your feedback.
There hasn't been a New Castlevania game in 10 years. So I don't know why people are complaining so bad about them changing the story. Honestly if it was closer to a one to one it would be boring no one wants to see Dracula come back again but you old school fans most part lines in the games are pretty much the same. It's inspired I'm pretty sure they already said that not a one-to-one in the game plots are not complicated enough to make a series the same with true about the original Castlevania
"no one wants to see Dracula come back again " said who? 1% audience?
@@oratank you underestimate general audience not wanting to see the same plot repeated over and over again. That's not how you write a successful show. Plus they said long ago that is based on the video games but it's not tied to the story of the video games at all. It wouldn't even make sense with the story they had from the first series.
Let me shorten the comparison
Netflix Shit piss and other garabage
Games : Masterpiece
@@usuario_cualquiera2522 well I would say 12 old could have done better than these people. Yeh it was a game it didn't have solid story sometimes . But the writers had plenty to expand upon either they shit all over it or just doesn't care about it at all. Same with the historical and mythological elements they borrow. They are not insulting just castlevania and its protagonists family but also the historical and mythological stories as well. You cross a line when u both shit on and mess up someones favorite game then adapt his favorite historical event which is worse than a fking fan fic
@@kernelparadigmwhat about the historical elements you didn't like?
Should've been about Trevor
I'm getting the feeling that this story takes place sliiiiiightly before Rondo of Blood honestly. They did jump the gun a bit on Alucard's appearance too. I'm interested in season 2!
I was thinking they were just doing a pre-Rondo season too, but then Alucard shows up and it's like like "Welp, guess a proper Rondo story is unlikely now. Okay." We'll see what they do with it I guess.
@@SindraVaniaProjects I wonder if there will be a romance storyline between Maria and Alucard. Or if they'll go the sibling ribbing relationship route. She's presently KO. So, she's not met Alucard yet either. SotN didn't have Alu and Ric meet until their arena fight, and only after Maria warned him too. So many story routes now, keeping us on our toes! Great video btw!
@@KitsunegHe met Maria inside the Clocktower. She gives the line “ You are human, aren’t you? “ when she sees him. IMO, the ambiguity from the games and the radio drama was fine. There’s never any sex shown involving them in games or related materials. If they are the root of the Lecardes, you don’t need anything to show how that happened. JMO
I don't mind what they're doing here, I had my fair share of issues with the previous show (Hector and Isaac's storyline never merging with the main one and feeling really unfinished and sometimes very fillery, Saint Germain's motivation to resurrect Dracula, how static was season two as the season that should've set up the final Dracula fight, Season 3 alucard storyline being completely useless, i could probably go on if i think about this more) but at this point I accept that Castlevania Netflix is its own thing entirely, and from a narrative standpoint i understand why they're not just sticking with Dracula as the main antagonist, it would become very formulaic very quickly as a tv show while for games it works because well, they're games.
There are some things here that I actually like even more in comparison to the game, Annette is a much more interesting character, but it's kinda unfair seeing how the original one didn't exactly have a defined personality, the setting is AMAZING and I love how moody it is, I really wish there was a game that actually took place in France like this. I just hope Elizabeth will be a cool villain cause so far she's not even close to being as cool as Dracula was in the original show. And in general, hopefully this time they'll stick with a single storyline to keep the story simple and fast.
Now, greatest videogame adaptation? I don't think so because it's not "adapting" anything, but it's a good show that works as something inspired by the games and that still bring these beloved characters on screen, but ultimately does its own thing.
Elizabeth has indeed been a pretty generic villain so far, compared to Dracula or even Carmilla, which is unfortunate. There's a lot of potential there but they seem to like throwing around tropes in S1 and she definitely got hit.
A lot of people don't like this Castlevania I do cuz Victor is my favorite Belmont even though they made him look like a punk but he's redeeming his self
I've experienced /much/ CastleVania-related disappointment in my time.
We all have. The thing is those of us who're longtime fans of the game that are criticizing Nocturne might not be doing so quite as much if we actually had a proper new console-release Castlevania title release in the last decade to keep us occupied. 😒
Wokevania = fan fiction labeled Castlevania Nocturne for marketing purposes.
Rondo of blood castlevania.
Richter is man with conviction,without mental burden.
Nocturne
Richter is person with mental problem,trauma and depression.
Anette rondo of blood
Beautiful,but helpless noblewomen,richter fiancee.
Being helpless is not all bad thing if driving story advance.
Not all women must fight in battle.
That is fine.
Anette nocturne.
They turn it into black anime women fighter protagonist.
I don't have a beef with black women fighter protagonists.
I have a peoblem with this women being anette,richter fiancee.
😂
Facts. I would like the old Annette rather than the new black one. The old could be a support emotionally to Richter. While the black one... You if you watch it...
Inclusivity bullshitery is the main problem.
My ethnic has been abused by white power,our resources being drainef,our people displaced.
Yet i could enjoy original rondo if the blood and symphony of the night,without turning the already establshed character black🤣.
Let me tell you,that is called pandering.
Why the wtiter and ptoducer not making their original brand of story
Richter and Anette will marry,and if it is consistent with the lore,their grandson will be julius belmont.
And julius is far from being black.
So ,what kind of fuckuppery netflix writer will present in the future?
Loved the first series, this one wants to be great but falls short But it's still kinda like sex and pizza, even when it's bad it's still good.
But all the changes to Curse of Darkness in seasons 3-4 of the first series were just fine, right?
Season 1 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/BHZq7iCUA7o/v-deo.html
Season 2 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/hiB-g4PBM4w/v-deo.html
Season 3 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/DsOweu8h_hg/v-deo.html
Season 4 vs games: ua-cam.com/video/d-PSqZLhzF8/v-deo.html
@@vikingguitar yea, seems to be more okay with the changes on the level of them being changes than here imo
Thank you for showing me yet another reason why I should avoid the DEI ridden shit show known as Castelvania S2. What an unfunny joke.
oof, the comments here are really overrun by reactionaries... The beginning of nocturne honestly felt really weirldy paced, as it only gets really good towards juste. But fuck I love how they replace our funny skeleton enemies, with the other amazing aspect of castlevania, monsters and lore from all kinds of cultures. Fuck yeah too ancestor magic!
This season really did double down on what the 3-4 seasons did. First there’s all the race washing. Drolta or whatever is actually black there are black characters. So why? And all the weird haircuts and sexuality fest. Inclusivity stuff. If it’s an inanimate object or enemy then you can make them whatever you want because you are personifying something carmilla for example was just a floating head so do it to the characters like that if anything.
I believe she was a person in non-canon games : Circle of the Moon and Judgement. She’s a naked ghost on a skull in Rondo of Blood and she’s a secret boss in that game too.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes carmilla was a boss human in the one where Belmont is a vampire
@@mrthanos8140 Right Lords of Shadow and Lords of Shadow 2. The first one was an interesting alternate timeline, Mirror of Fate was okay, and LOS2 was a bit disappointing to me anyways
I think tera gonna die season 2
Idk man I kinda like that the series is very different from the games. The games have cool lore yeah but it was a gameplay first series and I don't think the show would be better if it was a direct adaptation.
Absolutely a fair viewpoint to have even though I think differently. If you enjoy Nocturne for what it is, that's great. I do think it could have been done better all-around and include more game-accurate lore, but that's of course just one opinion.
Yeah, I get that, but for what it's worth, I think that some of the game lore we did get was really well implemented and was even played with in really cool ways. Like the setting and villain of bloodlines is probably the most obvious one since we're probably not gonna get a bloodlines adaptation it's nice that they put that here. My favorite one, though, was how Juste's story is heavily implied to be the bad ending of HoD where both his friends end up dead. I think the references we did get were nice, but I can also see how some people could be rubbed the wrong way by it.
Hence that show should be simply labeled Nocturne as It's only Inspired(Appropriated) by the game and is Used by the wokes since it has a lot of their MO already. And like with the XBOX game pass it was made to pad things and waste your time intentionally ending with a cliffhanger to get more money out of the viewers or am I just being negative once more and they will correct course in season 2 whenever that appears?
Who's like you are being a bit negative especially when you start crying about woke stuff.
@@kingj9664 I believe your the one crying as I don't believe I'm fuming in my previus post but just stating my opinion. If they make something port of an IP then they should be prepared to at least base most to it's lore as fans are bound to comapre things whn it is linked to their beloveded IP. I believe this would have been the same reaction if Akira Toriyama Name Dragon Ball to Journey to the West Dragon Ball instead. If you do not get that example. Then I'm simply saying that of most is not based on an IP simply say it was inspired from it JUst like how the Saiyuki anime is mostly inspired by JttW with the 4 main Chars The Monk doing monk things like prayers and such Goku's Head Band limiti and conrtroling his power and the 4's goal being the same with their very own anime twist just like the Robin Hood Men in Tight's cpmedic twist in the aged story. I prefer Dragon Ball than Saiyuki orJourney to the West mind you and don't really look at the source to understand DB/DBZ and it's other variations.
@@CVicMagpantay I wasn't crying either but I was also stating my opinion on your opinion
@@kingj9664 If so then just state your opnion and don't be confrontational. And if you are not a true fan of the IP and did not look deep on it's lores and or played all the game then don't coe off as a know it all to ACTUAL fan which of course I am not but with all they comparison videos I watched and how Nocture has a lot of WOKE MOs like race swapping, bias treatment to once char while undermining another (usually male) I'll have to side with the fans have you done as much? Watched a playthrough of the orginal game that is about an hour?
@@CVicMagpantay Yeah I've lost the same amount of videos as you do on castlevania lore, Plus besides from the most part I've seen some people including fans of this castlevania series have mixed feelings about it honestly I don't think it's the best we were making it out to be. It was like people should be getting used to race swaps .hopefully next season will be better
nocturne is worse 100% to castlevania than lord of shadows were.
Considering how little story is actually in CV games, I am perfectly fine with the direction the OG and Nocturne went.
You must be new to the games then if you think there's too little story in them to make a show. Take a look around my channel and you'll see there's a fair amount.
@@SindraVaniaProjects Unfortunately the "games had no story" meme has spread amongst the Netflix series fans and is the mane defense for the series not following the games lore.
Can Everyone just stop Bitching about about Castlevania being bad, cause it Really isn’t!
It's... Bad 😂 mainly due to the writing and pacing.
let’s all stop pretending the castlevania games have amazing lore.
It might not always be amazing, but the games do have lore...hence my channel. 😆
I forgot I was subbed to this channel. Thanks for this video. A bit odd to hear everything is not like the games….):