Flammable Maths man look it’s the real Andrew Dotson. Are you going to use the trope where they just assume/approximate/do sth weird and us math students get Vietnam flashbacks?
When I was a physics undergrad, I was in differential equations class.There were about 15 students. The professor was a mathematics professor who taught way above the standard level and way beyond the textbook. He rarely ever turned to look at the class. There were about 5 physics majors, 9 engineers, and one math major who sat in the front row and always appeared to be asleep with his head on the desk. The professor would start lecturing and lose about one student every 2 minutes until we were all looking at each other shrugging. Then professor would ask a question. Not turn around, just ask. No one would respond and he would repeat the question. Then say “anyone? Anyone?” in the much parodied style of professors. This would go on for an uncomfortably long period of time, then the math kid up front would suddenly sit bolt upright, give the correct answer, then lapse down onto the desk, apparently asleep again. I will never forget that class, lol.
My vector calc teacher told us the other day "ahh, i love teaching engineers, yall dont care about these silly proofs so i can just show you cool things to do with these instead"
Actually kind of true. A lot of math lectures, at least on graduate level, is dedicated to enormous proofs that are very often uninteresting technicalities. It is not until research level/seminars that people just say "oh do this and that, and some trickeries here and there".
Math and physics' job is to take every piece of information to understand how the world works. Engineers' is to take that shit and use the useful concepts. We don't have time for demonstration jerkoffs
@@ErkaaJ As a maths undergraduate I think about 30-40% is proofs and not gonna lie that shits not interesting my favourite class's have been statistics, cryptology and the joint physics ones so odes and vector calculus. I honestly get excited when I can actually see the direct relevance of something to the work place which usually only happens in Statistics 🤣
Ardit Mehmeti , oh my goodness! That’s totally me as well because I used to be incredibly quick with mental maths and my mental maths isn’t as good since my degree and I never figured out why... could it be because ‘you either use it or lose it’ when it comes to mental maths?
@@hakkihantunbak6340 probably lol, since we have calculators, I suppose it's the same as not actually integrating... if you have integral tables I guess?
Took me a while to understand this video, but now I think I got it. Basically, physics students have beards, and math professors speak in a heavy Bavarian accent.
This is a joke a friend of mine, who studied Physics, told me: _How do you find the volume of a cow?_ _Engineer: Just fill a large enough container with water, put the cow in, and collect the water that falls out. That will tell you the volume._ _Mathematician: Divide the cow up into infinitesimal cubes, and then add up the volume of the cubes._ _Physicist: If the radius of the cow is r..._
Mine says something like "If you use a few substitutions, you get the following... I won't show you the integration steps because this is not a calculus class, you already know how to do it
To be fair i did lebesgue measure and integration while studying L^2 spaces (im a physics undergrand) and theres no way you dont have to evaluate integrals on your own etc.. ofc the video is made like this for entertainment and its okay like that xS
Well not as the video says you don’t really have to know measure theory to do the functional analysis. The small l2 is a Hilbert space, and so is the completion of continuous function R to R on closed interval defined with normal L2 norm. There are lot of ways to construct Hilbert space. In face, space of functions of at most countable nonzero values defined with the dot product as sum (x in R ) f(x)g(x) is also Hilbert
Math Student: π is half the period of any nontrivial real valued function f satisfying f''=-f. Or we could also say it's the first zero of the function f satisfying f''=-f, f(0)=0, and f'(0)=1.
A chemistry student in a physics lecture: Lecturer: "How can you even do chemistry, without wave function-integrals, when you use it daily in your work ?" Chemist: haha colors go brrrr. ^^
Money counting machines makes the sound ''brrrr" as they are counting money. This is why ''money printer go brrrr" is a meme, and why other 'go brrr' memes are dumb.
Lol that's how I found out I should be an engineer. I need the practical application ( or at least the context of when a formula should be applied) for the concept to click. God bless my precalc teacher.
In my math classes, "practical applications" were actually "we can use these abstract math results to prove other cool abstract results in a different branch". Like solvable groups (or w.e they are named in english) are used "practically" to prove Galois fancy stuff
I've never seen a pure mathematician complain about the applicability of other fields, yet I cannot escape the constant derision and hate directed toward us by other fields. We don't give a flying $&#@ what you do with your math. Kindly stop whining about what we do with it. Math is a language and not every word has to be a noun, nor does every sentence have to reference real possibilities to be useful. You should use whatever words you want, however you want. Kindly leave us the &$#@ alone. It's not our fault that you only care about solutions to problems that someone else presented. Stop taking it out on us. Go away. You have enough garbage to deal with in your own fields that it boggles the mind that you feel qualified to opine on the usefulness of fields that you didn't bother to learn.
@@jdeHaydu Truth be told I did the philosophy minor because I found the minutiae and rigor of math and physics to be the most tiresome parts. I got into the subjects to learn about universal truths and what I'm learning is that it's just a language of rules we hardly understand. Mostly relative to us, nothing really universal about it at all. It's like we're charting the edges of noumena and slowly adding to our guidebooks even though we'll never know the way in.
I can see that. We have to memorize a lot of that, but I guess we probably have a lot less weight on the math than other physics programs, as long as it doesn't show a conceptual misunderstanding.
a prof i know (who is a advisee^3 of Feynman) explained Feynman's approach to path integral as doing two things 'technically wrong' to get something right and that is why Feynman is the best physicist
Engineers about math and physics: So how does this help me build a device that can get this solid lead cube that weighs 450 lbs onto a shelf that is 20 feet in the air?
The class was DiffEQ, but at the beginning of the course, my professor took count of how many different majors there were -- about half were engineering, maybe a quarter were physics, the rest were a mix bag of math (we had specializations, so even then it broke up even more), and a few actuarial science (ActSci) majors. After taking count, in a thick Ukrainian accent, he said, "Take a good look around you, more than half of the physics and engineering majors will drop or fail this class. About a quarter of the applied and pure (math) majors with drop and change majors." Kid in the back raises his hand and asks, "But sir, what about stats and ActSci?" I swear it was like he was waiting for this question. He smiled and said, "Stats and ActSci are under no illusions about how difficult the course is and how well they'll do in here. How do I say this," (I shit thee not, this is what he said), "Physics and Engineering think they are, I believe you say it, hot shit, until they get here." That first day of class formed a core memory of college for me. (He was also not wrong on how the class changed by the end of the semester.)
Kinda weird, differential equations are probably the most intuitive subject for any physicist. Though that's of course assuming they went through differential and integral calculus (plus linear algebra for numerical stuff). I remember liking DiffEq the most out of all maths subjects, though we had no numerical methods course, so I had to study them on my own later.
woah woah now, engineering major here, and i'll have you know. not only did i think i was hot shit... but i was in fact hot shit until i got there XDDD. no seriously I was an A-B student every single class my entire associates, until having to take diff eq while doing physics 3, mechanics of material anddddddddd calc 3 all at the same fucking time. and now that I'm going for my BS in Electrical engineering and transfered schools IM HAVING TO TAKE DIFF EQ AGAIN AND IM FUCKING DYING INSIDE SEND HELP.
We have this really smart indian kid in our computer science class and his name is Deep. He's so smart and he always has the answer instantly so instead of programming some complicated algorithm, we just give all the data to him and call it Deep Learning.
Mathematician: "Feynman is not as cool as you might think" Physicist: *Chuckles, unsheathes sword* "Okay guys you wanna see a fight? Lost my shit, really well done.
Yeah, but that was so true? Head of teh Advanced BSc degrees at my Uni (who's main area was Math) was like "Feynmann was a great Physicist but not a mathematician".
shuvankar biswas not only at your country, but pretty much everywhere my friend... the table thing is just a joke. Greetings from a Peruvian engineering student who loves math
I studied undergraduate math for 2 years till now along with computer science but I'm dropping math now. This shit is hard. Mathematicians are walking gods among us.
@@nako7569 if your talking about math and god in the same sentence, you either suck at logic or faith. you either don't have enough faith so external evidence is needed, or you don't have enough evidence, so external faith is needed.
Both of my parents are math professors and I always had a hard time at math until I took physics. I learned that I just have a tendency to accidentally copy numbers incorrectly so I learned to substitute all the numbers for letters, solve for the variable I want to know, and then put the numbers back in to the equation. I thought I was just bad at math until I started doing that and then I got things right for a change, although I still have to be careful with signs.
Dude that was me. I hated math thought I would never pick it up until I started learning algebra. Then it all clicked into place for me. It wasn't until I got into physics that I discovered the beauty of maths.
Im a economics major with IT minor but physics and philosophy have always intrigued me so much. Economic theory and Philosophy were my favorites classes.
"Hand-waving" is a term used to denote making a complex proof really easy by skipping all of the rigorous parts and just intuiting it, which is FAR less prevalent in theoretical mathematics courses than phys.
Umm, Dirac deltas don't really have inner products, do they? They only have duality couplings with continuous functions - if you are GENEROUS!!!, and mostly only duality couplings with smooth functions of compact support. No Hilbert spaces there, my boi! None at all!!!
Let B be a linear span of sin functions. These are continuous and the scalar product can be defined through Riemann integrals. I'm not sure, but I think the metric completion of B will be our desired Hilbert space L2, and the scalar product can be defined through limits of scalar products of sin functions. Also, the sequence space l2 is a Hilbert space as well, and it involves no integration at all.
@@bogdanlevi Ok, You are trying to define L2, but here is the point: Dirac Delta does not belong to L2. You cannot define the integral of the product of Dirac Delta and a L2 function because L2 functions cannot be evaluated in a point.
If G is a locally compact abelian hausdorff group we can equip G with a translation invariant regular measure. With respect to this measure, L^1(G) can be embedded in the space of complex regular borel measures M(G) where the dirac delta function lives.
I'm a math major, and thoroughly enjoyed this video... was sitting in math class the other day and suddenly thought of, "It's easy, you say: assuming the necessary assumptions, let H be a Hilbert space," and had to stop myself from laughing out loud right there. The juxtaposition of that line with the nature of this particular math class -- where you have to check whether you're allowed to assume 1 + 1 = 2 when writing a proof -- is just so good. Awesome video man, thanks for the laughs.
Andrew- Congrats on 100K subscribers! This was a Great collaboration for both you and Flammable Maths. I enjoyed them both immensely. Thanks and keep it going.
Feynman was even cooler than most people think. The only proof one needs is his own books and papers. They are excellent. He was the last to revolutionize quantum mechanics with his path integral method and his diagrams. I admire him greatly
Utter nonsense. All the mathematical methods I needed for my physics classes were lectured in those. It was only in our math classes were we learned why/ when these methods work and the mathematician way to look at it, which often doesn't help to understand the physical problem. Especially the early physics courses require mathematical methods which will only be introduced in later math courses. E.g. distributions and PDEs are heavily used in electromagnetism(first year of physics), which will most likely be taught in a second year math courses.
@@Ryuuuuuk The machinery of distribution and PDEs are , in France, a grad school subject (at least M1, 4 years of uni). There is nothing wrong with not learning the fine machinery tough, you don't need it at all to solve physics problems, and it is sometimes very pedantic to try to teach that to undergrads, but it is always a good idea to be familiar with the tools you use later.
I love throwing Laplace transforms at things until they go away, its my second favorite pass time aside from throwing (1/n) / (1/n) at limits to make all the zeros
My electrostatics professor the other day, in a quiz on Laplace's equation and boundary conditions, claimed that "all PDEs can be solved by separation." It was presented as a "correct" statement in a multiple-choice list, and consequently we were docked for omitting it.
ah yes, brings me back to my college days as an engineering student, going to a physics class to learn how to do something one way, then going to a math class to learn how to do the exact same thing another way, and being told by each respective professor that their way is right. lol, and looking back on it both the physics professors did wave their hands around a lot, but not the TA's. guess they weren't there yet.
Wow I’ve never watched a video right after it was uploaded... I’m so buried in Class Mech homework I’m literally watching physics videos as soon as I wake up to remind myself it’s still fun. Thanks for the joke videos!!
3:14 , I can Totally Relate to This, Even Though I'm just a 14 yr old Learning Theoretical & Mathematical Physics, Physicists need to use Hand Expression, I also do it when Doing a Lecture and Uploading it, it basically now, kind of became by your Subconscious Mind, just happens directly when exactly, but, still I don't know Why we basically do it, like what's the reason?!
Lots of stuff is very accurate (*of course* boundary terms always vanish) but in my experience it was always the maths majors who had trouble actually computing integrals (rather than say, showing they converge to something) and needed tables for anything beyond polynomial 😅 whereas we had to learn all the integral reps of generalised laguerre polynomials and bessel functions and so on *shudder*
Man... just to mention that in my university the professor giving Quantum Mechanics I was more mathematically rigorous than most calculus professors I had. It's physics not engineering we a talking about.
"Would you mind waving your hands?" hahahaha yes! This is why I'm subscribed to this cha... wait. What the what? How am I not subscribed to this channel?
Hahahahaha I love this!! I major in both physics and math and this video officially made me realize where I stand fundamentally... I was raised by the math department then groomed by the physics department... Now I’m starting to understand the depth of my physics professor’s comment whom I wrote and published my first physics papers with... “You are the most mathematically rigorous student I’ve ever had.” I now realize... he was calling me annoying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In fairness, when you’re in the real world using math and science to figure out issues you’d normally be able to look up the equation if you forgot it, wether that be via book or internet.
For every hard math class there is a corresponding harder Physics. Problem with Physics is there is a whole series of steps just to make it into a math question
High level math has very little calculations unless it’s within “applied mathematics”. Outside of applied maths, it’s all theoretical or abstract. Pretty much generalizing statements so much that you can’t assume basic properties you thought you could like how a number times 0 is 0. Or even if 1>0. Maths is all about proving those statements until you build up as high as you can. The best part about it, maths can never be wrong because it is based off of full logic and as little assumptions as possibe. You can have a proof be several pages with no concrete “real numbers” involved.
"It seems to me that mathematical rigor is like clothing: in its style it ought to suit the occasion, and it diminishes comfort and restricts freedom of movement if it is either too loose or too tight." --George F. Simmons
Andrew, I hope Jackson isn't treating you too harshly! I know you haven't posted in a while, but as a physics grad myself I totally understand why. I wish you the best of luck with the rest of this semester!
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Glad you came back Andrew
Now you guys just need to get @Mr_Nohmer in these vids and the STEM meme triforce is complete 🤣😂
The math guy is german right? That accent :)
I just +1'd pi-upvotes :-(
Flammable Maths man look it’s the real Andrew Dotson. Are you going to use the trope where they just assume/approximate/do sth weird and us math students get Vietnam flashbacks?
When I was a physics undergrad, I was in differential equations class.There were about 15 students. The professor was a mathematics professor who taught way above the standard level and way beyond the textbook. He rarely ever turned to look at the class.
There were about 5 physics majors, 9 engineers, and one math major who sat in the front row and always appeared to be asleep with his head on the desk. The professor would start lecturing and lose about one student every 2 minutes until we were all looking at each other shrugging. Then professor would ask a question. Not turn around, just ask. No one would respond and he would repeat the question. Then say “anyone? Anyone?” in the much parodied style of professors.
This would go on for an uncomfortably long period of time, then the math kid up front would suddenly sit bolt upright, give the correct answer, then lapse down onto the desk, apparently asleep again.
I will never forget that class, lol.
Jerome k jerome
Steven Turner That’s really bad dude
How do you get a bachelors in physics but struggle with Diff Eq
javier Alarcon pain, so much pain
I'm struggling to learn how to solve differential equations too.
Nobody:
Physicist: assuming the necessary assumption we can conclude the necessary conclusions
Lmao
Lol
Underatted
@@akshatchobdar3038 Suppose, for instance, 0 = 1 ......
@@javiergilvidal1558 then clearly 1=0
Waves Hand: Instantly solves shrodinger's equation
The only thing I found familiar, to me, is can you wave your hands.
I prefer to particle with my hands.
@@livedandletdie i measure what you did there
Himanshu Sharma You guys are incoherent.
@@Fleurlean4 well actually i am uncertain about that.
My vector calc teacher told us the other day "ahh, i love teaching engineers, yall dont care about these silly proofs so i can just show you cool things to do with these instead"
DAMN RIGHT!
Actually kind of true. A lot of math lectures, at least on graduate level, is dedicated to enormous proofs that are very often uninteresting technicalities. It is not until research level/seminars that people just say "oh do this and that, and some trickeries here and there".
Math and physics' job is to take every piece of information to understand how the world works.
Engineers' is to take that shit and use the useful concepts.
We don't have time for demonstration jerkoffs
@@kukuc96 and yes, that's a rarity
@@ErkaaJ As a maths undergraduate I think about 30-40% is proofs and not gonna lie that shits not interesting my favourite class's have been statistics, cryptology and the joint physics ones so odes and vector calculus. I honestly get excited when I can actually see the direct relevance of something to the work place which usually only happens in Statistics 🤣
Some maths students at my uni could do a laplace transform in their head, but struggled to add up a darts score.
Its cause we rarely really deal with numbers :(. I used to be extremely fast at calculating pretty much anything in my head before my maths major
That's kinda me lol. I could do entire proofs in my head when I was having a shower then litteray put at an exam : 32/4=4
Ardit Mehmeti , oh my goodness! That’s totally me as well because I used to be incredibly quick with mental maths and my mental maths isn’t as good since my degree and I never figured out why... could it be because ‘you either use it or lose it’ when it comes to mental maths?
@@hakkihantunbak6340 probably lol, since we have calculators, I suppose it's the same as not actually integrating... if you have integral tables I guess?
I feel like I'm just a peasant listening to this elite conversation
I’ve never thought about how often physics professors wave their hands. Is this because hands are both particles and waves?
ale kring
....Wait just a gosh darn minute.
you finna catch these hands at the speed of light!
@@averagejoey2000 Are you implying these hands have no mass?
If it true and it is simultaneously so theur hand was a light
Took me a while to understand this video, but now I think I got it. Basically, physics students have beards, and math professors speak in a heavy Bavarian accent.
@@somename5632 wait, really? As a german, I had a hard time understanding what he said....
So where's my beard??
It's not Bavarian - I forgot where exactly he's from, but somewhere in the east.
@@baguettegott3409 He is from Saxonia
Oida was für Bayern
“How do I calculate integrals if I don’t have a table of them?” I’m a math major and you just killed me instantly
I'm a Physics Major and I don't use the table of Integrals lml
Time to bust out Dem flash cards son!
baldy hardnut QED = done
I will have to do calc 2 again because I didn't know by heart the table...
Surprised that you don't use calculators that solve integrals for calc. Saved me a ton of time.
I am not a physics major but “assuming the necessary assumptions” is the most fire line ever
Believe me, it saves so much time.
This is a joke a friend of mine, who studied Physics, told me:
_How do you find the volume of a cow?_
_Engineer: Just fill a large enough container with water, put the cow in, and collect the water that falls out. That will tell you the volume._
_Mathematician: Divide the cow up into infinitesimal cubes, and then add up the volume of the cubes._
_Physicist: If the radius of the cow is r..._
I don't get the physicist part please explain
First approximate the cow to be a sphere
Oh lol thx
Engineering would be more like, check the cow's serial number and look it up on the datasheet.
@@MichelleHannaC we can clearly assume cows as cylinders
My prof whenever he gets to an integral: “yeah and then you just plug this into Mathematica and you got your answer”
ale kring
To be fair, if it works it works
Well is his name is Mr House
where is the lie
Mine says something like
"If you use a few substitutions, you get the following... I won't show you the integration steps because this is not a calculus class, you already know how to do it
"assuming the necessary assumption, let H be a hilbert space"
I had to pause, that was brilliant, thank you
To be fair i did lebesgue measure and integration while studying L^2 spaces (im a physics undergrand) and theres no way you dont have to evaluate integrals on your own etc.. ofc the video is made like this for entertainment and its okay like that xS
Well of course, with enough assumptions we can rule the world!
@@EdgyShooter
Slogan of the Flat Earth movement...
@@anythingbuthis9086 You don't have to find the space. Just think that H is the space.
Well not as the video says you don’t really have to know measure theory to do the functional analysis. The small l2 is a Hilbert space, and so is the completion of continuous function R to R on closed interval defined with normal L2 norm. There are lot of ways to construct Hilbert space. In face, space of functions of at most countable nonzero values defined with the dot product as sum (x in R ) f(x)g(x) is also Hilbert
Math student: π
Engineering student: 3
Here's an empirically verified version of the usual joke.
Mathematician: π is everywhere
Physicist: π ≈ 3
Engineering student : π = 3.1459265359
pi
Math Student: π is half the period of any nontrivial real valued function f satisfying f''=-f. Or we could also say it's the first zero of the function f satisfying f''=-f, f(0)=0, and f'(0)=1.
Physic student: sqrt(g)
Comp sci student:
Import math
math.floor(math.pi)
A chemistry student in a physics lecture:
Lecturer: "How can you even do chemistry, without wave function-integrals, when you use it daily in your work ?"
Chemist: haha colors go brrrr.
^^
ICE table goes brrrr
Money counting machines makes the sound ''brrrr" as they are counting money. This is why ''money printer go brrrr" is a meme, and why other 'go brrr' memes are dumb.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 "brr memes" go brr
@@runiteman10 Lmao you ratio'd the shit out of them
meanwhile the organic chemist laughing in using simple multiplication and division.
"did you just ask for practical applications? THIS IS A MATH CLASS GET OUT"
Finally, someone who understands
Lol that's how I found out I should be an engineer. I need the practical application ( or at least the context of when a formula should be applied) for the concept to click. God bless my precalc teacher.
In my math classes, "practical applications" were actually "we can use these abstract math results to prove other cool abstract results in a different branch". Like solvable groups (or w.e they are named in english) are used "practically" to prove Galois fancy stuff
I've never seen a pure mathematician complain about the applicability of other fields, yet I cannot escape the constant derision and hate directed toward us by other fields.
We don't give a flying $&#@ what you do with your math. Kindly stop whining about what we do with it.
Math is a language and not every word has to be a noun, nor does every sentence have to reference real possibilities to be useful.
You should use whatever words you want, however you want.
Kindly leave us the &$#@ alone.
It's not our fault that you only care about solutions to problems that someone else presented.
Stop taking it out on us.
Go away.
You have enough garbage to deal with in your own fields that it boggles the mind that you feel qualified to opine on the usefulness of fields that you didn't bother to learn.
Me, a philosophy student: I understand some of these words yes...
Samee😂😂
I too wish to study philosophy someday; would you recommend it?
Math/physics with a minor in philosophy. I'm going to be the ubermensch one of these days.
@@TheTheode honestly, as someone who is most interested in metaphysics, idk if it would make me more interested in physics, or make it harder for me.
@@jdeHaydu Truth be told I did the philosophy minor because I found the minutiae and rigor of math and physics to be the most tiresome parts. I got into the subjects to learn about universal truths and what I'm learning is that it's just a language of rules we hardly understand. Mostly relative to us, nothing really universal about it at all.
It's like we're charting the edges of noumena and slowly adding to our guidebooks even though we'll never know the way in.
Wait, you get tables?!?!
Well, I never had one in my university
My instructor said it's impossible to do some integration without tables, unless you're in graduate school.
Gaussian integrals usually
I can see that. We have to memorize a lot of that, but I guess we probably have a lot less weight on the math than other physics programs, as long as it doesn't show a conceptual misunderstanding.
We gotta know where they come from.
"feynman is not as cool as you may think.."
Heads out with a machete
Birinder Singh Ight imma head out
That is blasphemy of the highest order.
Feynman is terribly overrated.
As a math person, I died when he said that.
a prof i know (who is a advisee^3 of Feynman) explained Feynman's approach to path integral as doing two things 'technically wrong' to get something right and that is why Feynman is the best physicist
Physicists: Physics is very math-heavy.
Actual mathematicians: Am I a joke to you?
Plot twist :
Actual mathematicians : maths is physics heavy
Sleipher my analysis prof wants to sell us her relativity theory for mathemticians seminar all the time
Plot twist: Edward Witten won a Fields medal as a physicist ( namely a string theorist)
Actual mathematicians; math is actually very letter heavy
The most used quote by any physics teacher: "And after a while of algebra, we get this..." XD
"assuming all necessary assumptions" was too real
Literally every joke was above my head. I can't wait to learn this stuff
Dont worry, hand waving 101 is a pretty easy class.
@@PapaFlammy69 Post the video!!!!! I'm so anxious to watch it already :) Good video btw. 10/10
The only familliar thing I heard was "Variation of Parameters", which I got 2 weeks ago.
Yeah.. me too I'm a high school student
Me too, I just started studying. The waving is great so far :D
As an engineering major I don’t understand basically anything said in this video
It could be worse - you could be a Humanities student and have a totally weird definition of integration.
@@matthewmcneany this is criminally underrated XD
@@matthewmcneany LOL well done
Not even: solving differential equation numerically?
@@sn0wglebI don't, I got my acceptance to a doctorate program this month and I don't think I've ever done a differential equation in my life.
Physicist about math: but where is reality in all this?
Mathematician about physics: all work and no play...
Engineers about math and physics: So how does this help me build a device that can get this solid lead cube that weighs 450 lbs onto a shelf that is 20 feet in the air?
Engineers to physicist as physicist to mathematician
@Zi Kun Zeng if theoretical chem is like theretical phys. then I understand your struggle.
And me an engineering student: "So you insert this equation to wolfram... and that's about it."
The class was DiffEQ, but at the beginning of the course, my professor took count of how many different majors there were -- about half were engineering, maybe a quarter were physics, the rest were a mix bag of math (we had specializations, so even then it broke up even more), and a few actuarial science (ActSci) majors.
After taking count, in a thick Ukrainian accent, he said, "Take a good look around you, more than half of the physics and engineering majors will drop or fail this class. About a quarter of the applied and pure (math) majors with drop and change majors."
Kid in the back raises his hand and asks, "But sir, what about stats and ActSci?"
I swear it was like he was waiting for this question. He smiled and said, "Stats and ActSci are under no illusions about how difficult the course is and how well they'll do in here. How do I say this," (I shit thee not, this is what he said), "Physics and Engineering think they are, I believe you say it, hot shit, until they get here."
That first day of class formed a core memory of college for me. (He was also not wrong on how the class changed by the end of the semester.)
Kinda weird, differential equations are probably the most intuitive subject for any physicist. Though that's of course assuming they went through differential and integral calculus (plus linear algebra for numerical stuff).
I remember liking DiffEq the most out of all maths subjects, though we had no numerical methods course, so I had to study them on my own later.
woah woah now, engineering major here, and i'll have you know. not only did i think i was hot shit... but i was in fact hot shit until i got there XDDD.
no seriously I was an A-B student every single class my entire associates, until having to take diff eq while doing physics 3, mechanics of material anddddddddd calc 3 all at the same fucking time.
and now that I'm going for my BS in Electrical engineering and transfered schools IM HAVING TO TAKE DIFF EQ AGAIN AND IM FUCKING DYING INSIDE SEND HELP.
@@Fleatowhy do you need to take it again?
“Heh okay you guys wanna see a fight?” 𝘐 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘱𝘢𝘺 𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵
STEM youtuber boxing match, Logan Paul/KSI style?
My money is on Andrew, although it will be a tough call. Flammy has the power of anime on his side D:
Maybe Flammy can wave his hands while he explains why fighting is a bad idea, and this will confuse and calm the physics student.
I would bet on Andrew, because Flammy talked shit about our boy Feynman. Nobody does that and walks away!
www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/
This dude literally has the same accent as my physics professor.
German Accent
Thats some nice german accent :D
I didn‘t realise sexy was an accent?
He has Frederic Schuller's accent
Haha i was thinking the same thing
We have this really smart indian kid in our computer science class and his name is Deep. He's so smart and he always has the answer instantly so instead of programming some complicated algorithm, we just give all the data to him and call it Deep Learning.
Bruh
this had me
Do you wish to smoke RD?
Underatted af bro
His surname is Throat
Philosophy student: i understan some words
Me as a mathematicians student: yeah me too...
As a physics student: Yeah me too... lmao
As a engineer: Yeah, me too
I saw that comment just above you lol
astrophysics student: .................................. (dies in homework and cursed sleeping schedule)
Mathematician: "Feynman is not as cool as you might think"
Physicist: *Chuckles, unsheathes sword* "Okay guys you wanna see a fight?
Lost my shit, really well done.
Yeah, but that was so true? Head of teh Advanced BSc degrees at my Uni (who's main area was Math) was like "Feynmann was a great Physicist but not a mathematician".
@@johnneumann8878 Hes cool in his own right, I can probably solve more problems than Newton ever did, doesn't make me a better physicist than Newton.
Man, Feynmann is the BOSS... Nobody better disagree
Biology students be like: what language are they speaking ?
@Betty Swallsack Now, I can survive in a jail. Thanks :)
@Betty Swallsack 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm a biologist, but I still remember how disappointed I was when I realized "gut" was a technical term.
Oh thank goodness I am not alone
@Betty Swallsack 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm in my final year Med but I understood some of them. Being interested outside of your field is really good and helpful at times.
Me, an engineer: Integral tables are a method of integration!
At our country integration tablets are not a thing, regardless wether be Engineering, Maths, Physics.
If you come up with one, do it by hand.
shuvankar biswas not only at your country, but pretty much everywhere my friend... the table thing is just a joke. Greetings from a Peruvian engineering student who loves math
Technically true.
Thm. 1:
[Calculates and lists integrals]
@@cogitoergosum2846 me2
I have infinite memory so it doesn’t matter
*waves hands while being silent* “i’m learning already”
Waving hands is the future of machine learning
I studied undergraduate math for 2 years till now along with computer science but I'm dropping math now. This shit is hard. Mathematicians are walking gods among us.
math is literally the language in which God wrote the universe, what do you expect?
@@nako7569 if your talking about math and god in the same sentence, you either suck at logic or faith. you either don't have enough faith so external evidence is needed, or you don't have enough evidence, so external faith is needed.
@@ethanstump I suck at both ngl
@@nako7569 same. but my lack of faith in society seems more warranted than the lack of evidence i have that god exists.
@@ethanstump same
2:56 I'd forgotten about the Ababou constant, thanks for reminding me of the glorious finite infinity
I have no idea what’s going on why is this in my recommended
Not sure why it was recommended to me either all of a sudden but I'm glad it was!
May be u r science student
Take this as a compliment from UA-cam :D
I'm a civil engineering student and I don't understand most of it
@@mreatcoco because it's more of maths, physics and Electrical & Electronic Engineering. they just call it Engineering students for shot.
"Could you wave your hands when you lecture? Hmmm, that's nice. I'm learning already." I think this is the most accurate part of this video
Both of my parents are math professors and I always had a hard time at math until I took physics. I learned that I just have a tendency to accidentally copy numbers incorrectly so I learned to substitute all the numbers for letters, solve for the variable I want to know, and then put the numbers back in to the equation. I thought I was just bad at math until I started doing that and then I got things right for a change, although I still have to be careful with signs.
You mean Algebra?
Yo that was a pretty good idea
Dude that was me. I hated math thought I would never pick it up until I started learning algebra.
Then it all clicked into place for me.
It wasn't until I got into physics that I discovered the beauty of maths.
Physicist be like: I’ll start calling your guy “Euler” instead of “Uler” when you start calling my guy “Lord Feynman”.
LMFAO the math department and science department have some serious beef about this at my school
Im a economics major with IT minor but physics and philosophy have always intrigued me so much. Economic theory and Philosophy were my favorites classes.
Wearing a QED shirt and saying Feynman is not cool is a different level of swag. My maths prof waves more than my physic prof.
The term qed is also used in math whenever a proof is done or smt sinilar
Quantum Electrodynamics versus quod erat demonstrandum.
"Hand-waving" is a term used to denote making a complex proof really easy by skipping all of the rigorous parts and just intuiting it, which is FAR less prevalent in theoretical mathematics courses than phys.
“Ok you guys want to see a fight” had me crying
He has the most german accent ever:D and i'm saying this as a german
Haha, das ergibt Sinn😄
@@PapaFlammy69 Same :D
:DD
Germans speak english better than Americans
@@Paschendale_ False.
I love that smile when the lecturer starts waving his hands: such deep relaxation. Life can be so simple when you just cut to the chase.
Why am I watching this? I’m a high school sophomore in chemistry
Nice profile pic.
@@harrymack3565 thx lol love green day
Hello there, the oompa loompa of science
"How can you define a Hilbert space without Lebesouebgapge integrals?"
Dirac deltas: >:(
Umm, Dirac deltas don't really have inner products, do they? They only have duality couplings with continuous functions - if you are GENEROUS!!!, and mostly only duality couplings with smooth functions of compact support. No Hilbert spaces there, my boi! None at all!!!
Hearing Lebesgue integrals reminded me of Lebesgue-Stieltjes integrals and i had a little ptsd. Borel sets entered my mind too and I almost yacked.
Let B be a linear span of sin functions. These are continuous and the scalar product can be defined through Riemann integrals.
I'm not sure, but I think the metric completion of B will be our desired Hilbert space L2, and the scalar product can be defined through limits of scalar products of sin functions.
Also, the sequence space l2 is a Hilbert space as well, and it involves no integration at all.
@@bogdanlevi Ok, You are trying to define L2, but here is the point: Dirac Delta does not belong to L2. You cannot define the integral of the product of Dirac Delta and a L2 function because L2 functions cannot be evaluated in a point.
If G is a locally compact abelian hausdorff group we can equip G with a translation invariant regular measure. With respect to this measure, L^1(G) can be embedded in the space of complex regular borel measures M(G) where the dirac delta function lives.
I'm a math major, and thoroughly enjoyed this video... was sitting in math class the other day and suddenly thought of, "It's easy, you say: assuming the necessary assumptions, let H be a Hilbert space," and had to stop myself from laughing out loud right there. The juxtaposition of that line with the nature of this particular math class -- where you have to check whether you're allowed to assume 1 + 1 = 2 when writing a proof -- is just so good. Awesome video man, thanks for the laughs.
Andrew- Congrats on 100K subscribers! This was a Great collaboration for both you and Flammable Maths. I enjoyed them both immensely. Thanks and keep it going.
Thanks neal!
A mathematician: Feynman is not as cool as you might think.
A physicist: So, you have chosen death.
Feynman was even cooler than most people think. The only proof one needs is his own books and papers. They are excellent. He was the last to revolutionize quantum mechanics with his path integral method and his diagrams. I admire him greatly
The perfect collaboration doesn't ex...
2:15 how to integrate “bruh”
druh
B*(ruh)^2
Just checked Flammable Maths. There is no video about maths students taking a physics class. Is that the joke?
It’s being posted next werk
Maths students don't need physics class but physics students need math class
Utter nonsense. All the mathematical methods I needed for my physics classes were lectured in those. It was only in our math classes were we learned why/ when these methods work and the mathematician way to look at it, which often doesn't help to understand the physical problem.
Especially the early physics courses require mathematical methods which will only be introduced in later math courses.
E.g. distributions and PDEs are heavily used in electromagnetism(first year of physics), which will most likely be taught in a second year math courses.
@@Ryuuuuuk The machinery of distribution and PDEs are , in France, a grad school subject (at least M1, 4 years of uni). There is nothing wrong with not learning the fine machinery tough, you don't need it at all to solve physics problems, and it is sometimes very pedantic to try to teach that to undergrads, but it is always a good idea to be familiar with the tools you use later.
@@thomasr1797 2nd year maths student in the UK and on my course pdes are 3rd year we did some odes in 1st year mechanics however.
As a literature student I know this was a great story
This is basically me (math guy) vs my sister (expert at physics) when we solve stuff.
One of the best videos so far. Damnnnn it was great and hilarious. Plzzz make more videos together
Viktor Rizkallah thank you!
Electrical Engineer here: Integration is for _losers._
Just use the Laplace transform for _everything!_
But you'll need a table...
I love throwing Laplace transforms at things until they go away, its my second favorite pass time aside from throwing (1/n) / (1/n) at limits to make all the zeros
"Feynman, might not be as great as you think"
"Wanna see a fight?!" LMAO I laughed at work, please don't get me in trouble.
I know not at what point math stops becoming about numbers, but these folks have definitely passed it.
" ....Right, but where's the table" lmao 😂😂
DUDE!!! I CRACKED UP SO HARD ON THE HAND WAVING PART!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Could you please explain it? I think there is some wordplay involved, but I'm not good enough at English.
Bruh + bruh = abatross + {smart people} 😂😂😂😂😂
2:40 TRIGGERED
My electrostatics professor the other day, in a quiz on Laplace's equation and boundary conditions, claimed that "all PDEs can be solved by separation."
It was presented as a "correct" statement in a multiple-choice list, and consequently we were docked for omitting it.
BlackPenRedPen and Dr. Peyam getting a little shoutout I see. 0:45
2:43 me when someone talks chit about Feynman
What is feynman?!!
@@talosheeg a reality show celebrity
@@talosheeg he discovered the speed of dark
Hi Andrew, I'm heading into my freshman year in physics undergrad...wish me luck!
Love the vids as always
Great man! All the very best
@@ric2976 Thanks man!!!
Good luck! Join your college's Society of Physics Group (Physics Club). Trust me it's a lot of fun and a break from studying
I’m starting my first year of undergraduate physics on Monday
@@victorrizkallah6014 Best of luck!!
"Getting this math minor is a lot tougher than I thought it would be." ~ Me, A Physics Major.
~ Me, an Engineering Student
You should be a physics professor. Not the professor we deserve, but the professor we need.
Me : fails every thing on basic math and physics.
Me at UA-cam: watching things I have never heard.
Same
ah yes, brings me back to my college days as an engineering student, going to a physics class to learn how to do something one way, then going to a math class to learn how to do the exact same thing another way, and being told by each respective professor that their way is right. lol, and looking back on it both the physics professors did wave their hands around a lot, but not the TA's. guess they weren't there yet.
Mathematicians know that there are 20 ways to do anything. Some are fairly straightforward. Others...
Assuming the necessary assumptions...
Nobody's talking about the blackboard at 0:56? That stuff is gold lol
I love how the "constants" on the board get increasingly ridiculous as the video goes on.
Me who has just completed middle school
*What language is this?*
"What difference?"
Physicists : Where's the integral table?
Mathematicians : (the integral at 2:16)
Me:
BRUH
Dhanar Santika me weXDmm
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Wow I’ve never watched a video right after it was uploaded... I’m so buried in Class Mech homework I’m literally watching physics videos as soon as I wake up to remind myself it’s still fun. Thanks for the joke videos!!
Anamacha5 glad you enjoyed it!
I love it.
Flammable maths: how do you know that?
Andrew: easy, just because things exist, it just is
3:14 , I can Totally Relate to This, Even Though I'm just a 14 yr old Learning Theoretical & Mathematical Physics, Physicists need to use Hand Expression, I also do it when Doing a Lecture and Uploading it, it basically now, kind of became by your Subconscious Mind, just happens directly when exactly, but, still I don't know Why we basically do it, like what's the reason?!
Lost at “boundary terms are always zero”
0:29 As an electrical engineering graduate, this made made my day :D
Lots of stuff is very accurate (*of course* boundary terms always vanish) but in my experience it was always the maths majors who had trouble actually computing integrals (rather than say, showing they converge to something) and needed tables for anything beyond polynomial 😅 whereas we had to learn all the integral reps of generalised laguerre polynomials and bessel functions and so on *shudder*
« Boundary terms are always 0 » is exactly what my physics teacher told me when I still studied physics
2:58 "Bruh × Albatross"
*B R U H*
2:36 "you have started a gang war"
My physics professors wave their hands more often than the queen Elizabeth
Assuming the necessary assumptions, assume H is a Hilbert space😂 bwahaha😂🙌
Man... just to mention that in my university the professor giving Quantum Mechanics I was more mathematically rigorous than most calculus professors I had. It's physics not engineering we a talking about.
“Okay, you guys want to see a fight?”😂😂😂‼️
"Boundary terms are always zero." :P . I'm personally past that point though. In GR you got to worry about boundary terms.
"Would you mind waving your hands?"
hahahaha yes! This is why I'm subscribed to this cha... wait. What the what? How am I not subscribed to this channel?
Hahahahaha I love this!! I major in both physics and math and this video officially made me realize where I stand fundamentally... I was raised by the math department then groomed by the physics department... Now I’m starting to understand the depth of my physics professor’s comment whom I wrote and published my first physics papers with... “You are the most mathematically rigorous student I’ve ever had.” I now realize... he was calling me annoying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In fairness, when you’re in the real world using math and science to figure out issues you’d normally be able to look up the equation if you forgot it, wether that be via book or internet.
For every hard math class there is a corresponding harder Physics. Problem with Physics is there is a whole series of steps just to make it into a math question
Wait... 1:41 was math? There were no numbers in there at all...
When did English become math?!
High level math has very little calculations unless it’s within “applied mathematics”. Outside of applied maths, it’s all theoretical or abstract. Pretty much generalizing statements so much that you can’t assume basic properties you thought you could like how a number times 0 is 0. Or even if 1>0. Maths is all about proving those statements until you build up as high as you can.
The best part about it, maths can never be wrong because it is based off of full logic and as little assumptions as possibe. You can have a proof be several pages with no concrete “real numbers” involved.
"It seems to me that mathematical rigor is like clothing: in its style it ought to suit the occasion, and it diminishes comfort and restricts freedom of movement if it is either too loose or too tight." --George F. Simmons
Andrew, I hope Jackson isn't treating you too harshly! I know you haven't posted in a while, but as a physics grad myself I totally understand why. I wish you the best of luck with the rest of this semester!
What's even more fun is philosophy students in a Mathematical Logic class taught by a math prof.
Sure, it fulfilled their Logic requirement, but ...
the waving the hands thing is so on point!